Trent Bridge Day 1 - Review Thread

[AZ]

:(

[Awesome_Username]

This is not gonna be pretty.

[AZ]

*sigh* where do we begin?

Akmal has had an all-round shocking day...dropped catches, missed stumpings, bad calls on the review system...his nightmarish tour of 2006 immediately comes to mind.

England's batting looking ominous, not to mention the fact that we are basically bowling with 2.5 bowlers...Gul has been poor, Danish has been absolutely shocking, though he did redeem himself a bit in the 3rd session.

will take a huge effort from A & A tomorrow morning, otherwise England just might bat us out of this game by tea tomorrow.

[insaftak]

:pissed::po::(:po::pissed:

[CrIcKet_is_LiFe]

total agree AZ... not a gud day for pk :(

[Usman Chadda]

England's day. Can't say anything more than that

[Vegitto1]

Kamran Akmal let the team down. His keeping allowed more then 100 extra runs to be added and factor in the extra work for the bowlers.

[SohailQureshi]

we got owned by kamran akmal and eoin morgan!!

[cricfan967]

looks to me like a England vs India scorecard :(

[Mujtaba_Saeed]

day1 belongs to kami...because of his legendry keeping:pissed:

[Awesome_Username]

I know that Strauss didn't make much after his drop, but that was pretty important too. He has good technique to handle the swinging ball, and after that drop he was able to play it out. He got out playing a poor stroke eventually, but by that time he had taken the shine off the ball. If we could've gotten their middle order in against the swinging ball at that point, I think we would've have been ahead at the moment.

[Awesome_Username]

looks to me like a England vs India scorecard :(

It won't once we start batting.

[chui_kadoo]

Akmal better get a big hundred to make up for the howlers. Im expecting nothing less than 150 from him

[Paradox]

It's just one ordinary day at the office, let it go. Happens to every team in the world. We didn't bowl 'badly' to be honest (okay, maybe Kaneria did), but it was just absolutely superb batting from Collingwood and Morgan's part, credit must go to them. They really battled hard out there to take them to a formidable position from a dangerous position at 110 odd with 4 wickets down.

A lot of the 'disappointment' in you guys is also because we haven't had such a 'bad' day at the office in the past month or so - we won both T20s against Australia, then gave a pretty decent fight in the First Test against them, and won the Second Test.. so everybody was expecting a lot from this team. They won't go out there and perform literally every day, especially against a team which is reasonably better (on current form and team strength) than the one we beat a few days ago. It's a young and inexperienced team, bad days will happen more often than not - but give them time, and good days will come.

All negative posters/wrist-slitters will finally come out of their caves now (as we haven't had a good day) and start handing out free razor blades to all of you, encouraging you to join them. Stay positive, stay strong. Good results will come soon. Hopefully our boys have a better day out there tomorrow :)

Pakistan Zindabad!

[pak4life]

The players looked demoralised towards the end of the day its been a tough day at the office...

akmal - always has a shocker every few matches and today was the day the team deserves better

kaneria - after 60 tests this guy still does not know how to bowl in a test match *sighs*

gul - needs to be honest with himself is test cricket really for him? No game plan at all

asif - something does not look right soon as the ball stops swinging he seems to lose heart you are not going to have swinging conditions all the time wheres plan B? 78-80 mph on a flat pitch is meat and drink for a batman.

malik - malik was malik tried his best but just not good enough at this level.

Butt - did his best but was let down by some of his team mates

Amir - once again star of the day bowled his heart out.

[*sallu*]

Could've been completely different

Even if the stumping was done, who knows we might have gotten a couple of quick wickets and poised the game at 50/50

However, as reality stands, we're staring at atleast 500 unless England collapse tomorrow
They bat even deeper than Australia

[Robert]

Even the Pak occasional bowlers are bowling shooters on day one! This wicket is going to become horrible to bat on.

[Mujtaba_Saeed]

Akmal better get a big hundred to make up for the howlers. Im expecting nothing less than 150 from him

u can expect 150 from matt prior not from kami.....he is just useless

[Free Hit]

thanks god, some positive thread afterall.

[AZ]

It's just one ordinary day at the office, let it go. Happens to every team in the world. We didn't bowl 'badly' to be honest (okay, maybe Kaneria did), but it was just absolutely superb batting from Collingwood and Morgan's part, credit must go to them. They really battled hard out there to take them to a formidable position from a dangerous position at 110 odd with 4 wickets down.

A lot of the 'disappointment' in you guys is also because we haven't had such a 'bad' day at the office in the past month or so - we won both T20s against Australia, then gave a pretty decent fight in the First Test against them, and won the Second Test.. so everybody was expecting a lot from this team. They won't go out there and perform literally every day, especially against a team which is reasonably better (on current form and team strength) than the one we beat a few days ago. It's a young and inexperienced team, bad days will happen more often than not - but give them time, and good days will come.

All negative posters/wrist-slitters will finally come out of their caves now (as we haven't had a good day) and start handing out free razor blades to all of you, encouraging you to join them. Stay positive, stay strong. Good results will come soon. Hopefully our boys have a better day out there tomorrow :)

Pakistan Zindabad!


it certainly wasn't superb batting...we missed our opportunities, got screwed by the umpires, misused our reviews, and bowled terribly.

[pakcricketfan]

What happened to Kami all of a sudden? :( Looked good against the Aussies..but he has not done any good to the team today :( 2 misses in a day is unacceptable.
And Kaneria's obsession with full length bowling is killing me! :po:

Umar Gul and Kaneria need to raise their game BIG time! The two of them have been rubbish to say the least. Poor Aamer has to carry all the load! :(
As AZ bhai said, we need a huge effort from Aamer and Asif tomorrow morning.

[Easa]

It was gonna happen sometime, lets just hope we got our one shocking day for the series out of the way early.

Just wasn't our day - our keeper was as buffoon, a spin bowler with 250 wickets suddenly forgot how to land the ball on a length, catches dropped, stumpings missed, balls landing short of fielders, poor umpiring, marginally close review decisions going against us, no pace in the pitch etc etc.

It happens to all teams. The key is to pick yourself up. If we somehow limit them to 400 odd, and that is a big if, we'd still be in the game.

[srh]

Salman Butt ws out of his depth today. Did not use Umar Amin; did not use Imran Farhat. Did not experienced much. Not a good day for him.

[AZ]

Salman Butt ws out of his depth today. Did not use Umar Amin; did not use Imran Farhat. Did not experienced much. Not a good day for him.

:)) :)) :))

did not use Amin and Farhat!

talk about not using match-winning bowlers!

:)) :)) :))

[Awesome_Username]

It's just one ordinary day at the office, let it go. Happens to every team in the world. We didn't bowl 'badly' to be honest (okay, maybe Kaneria did), but it was just absolutely superb batting from Collingwood and Morgan's part, credit must go to them. They really battled hard out there to take them to a formidable position from a dangerous position at 110 odd with 4 wickets down.

A lot of the 'disappointment' in you guys is also because we haven't had such a 'bad' day at the office in the past month or so - we won both T20s against Australia, then gave a pretty decent fight in the First Test against them, and won the Second Test.. so everybody was expecting a lot from this team. They won't go out there and perform literally every day, especially against a team which is reasonably better (on current form and team strength) than the one we beat a few days ago. It's a young and inexperienced team, bad days will happen more often than not - but give them time, and good days will come.

All negative posters/wrist-slitters will finally come out of their caves now (as we haven't had a good day) and start handing out free razor blades to all of you, encouraging you to join them. Stay positive, stay strong. Good results will come soon. Hopefully our boys have a better day out there tomorrow :)

Pakistan Zindabad!

Agreed. Test cricket is played over 5 days for a reason. However, I guess you can sort of understand people's disappointment. 330/4 is certainly not a lost cause for most teams with a decent batting lineup, but with our inexperienced batting, that is already looking like 500+ to our fans, and thus a lost cause. So ironically enough, it is the batting which is making the bowling look poorer than it actually was.

[chui_kadoo]

Salman Butt ws out of his depth today. Did not use Umar Amin; did not use Imran Farhat. Did not experienced much. Not a good day for him.
Cant really blame butt for Kami dropping sitters and Gul bowling an awful length. The less we talk about kaneria the better.

[srh]

:)) :)) :))

did not use Amin and Farhat!

talk about not using match-winning bowlers!

:)) :)) :))
lagi lagi. ;-)

[AZ]

lagi lagi. ;-)

not really, it's just the most asinine thing I've read about what the captain did wrong today.

[srh]

Kaneria - Horrible, the guy has lost the mojo + Kami effect is giving him nightmares

Gul - Horrible, the guy should not be playing Test cricket IMO

Kamran Akmal - Horrible * 100, should be send back to Pakistan and called back when the ODIs/T20s starts

Salman Butt - Pretty Bad; Sticks with Malik for too long, did not try Umar Amin who he himself called the Man with Golden Arm, did not try Imran Farhat who is not a bad bowler, looks like was following a script, no innovation

[Saurav]

330/4.not a bad effort against self proclaimed no.1 bowling attack:))

[Atif]

330/4.not a bad effort against self proclaimed no.1 bowling attack:))

It is a batting wicket ? and keeper did miss couple of chances, could have been a total diffrent scorecard had we not wasted the chances...

Anyway its always funny to see an indian fan laughing at other teams bowling attack...

[Awesome_Username]

330/4.not a bad effort against self proclaimed no.1 bowling attack:))

Yeah. Could've been a lot worse had we been playing against the world's best batting lineup, composed of the Fab 4 (or Fab 6 or whatever). Oh wait.. no.. we'd probably have won by 9 wickets by now, like SL did.

[insaaniyat]

*sigh* where do we begin?

Akmal has had an all-round shocking day...dropped catches, missed stumpings, bad calls on the review system...his nightmarish tour of 2006 immediately comes to mind.

England's batting looking ominous, not to mention the fact that we are basically bowling with 2.5 bowlers...Gul has been poor, Danish has been absolutely shocking, though he did redeem himself a bit in the 3rd session.

will take a huge effort from A & A tomorrow morning, otherwise England just might bat us out of this game by tea tomorrow.

How about Sydney?:)

[saeed-sohail]

I created a thread on our bowling last winter and got slated here.I stand by those comments about Kaneria and Gul.

[atif.raza]

I feel bad for Kamran. He looked super during Australia test matches and on occasions mimicked his best form from 2005-2006 season.

It really seems to be more of a mental and confidence issue with him. When he drops a catch, his body language becomes appalling and that infects the rest of the team as well. Also, he needs to begin understanding the game better. He is our most experienced player. He seems to either stand a touch too far or touch too short. Ian Healy has personally worked a lot with him but clearly the advice is not being understood or adopted to the right extent by Kamran.

Coming to the match, we certainly did not have a horrible day today. A few early wickets tomorrow by A&A will bring us right back and if we can keep them below 400 i think we will be very much into the game. Credit must be given to Morganl i thought he was superb today. Had his slice of luck but you need a little bit of that when trying to establish yourself in the team. Besides, the appeal for lbw was hardly convincing and i doubt that it would have been reviewed if we had any of our reviews. It did not look as plumb in real time as it did in super duper slow motion replay which we have the advantage of. Overall, i thought it was a terrific day by the umpires. You all need to keep your bias for Asoka Desilva aside. He has been poor in the past but he has done well since he has come back making more correct decisions than ever before.

Umar Gull is a curious case. His rhythm, line, length, stamina, confidence, patience all falls apart during test matches. If he does not redeem himself in this test match, either tomorrow or in the second innings, then i think its time we try the guy who took 90 odd wickets last season. Tough luck to Wahab Riaz but two left handed bowlers in one game is one too many.

I have said this after the first test against Australia and i was trashed for my comments. kaneria is a ridiculously overrated bowler and has been so ever since England series in 2005. I called for Ajmal to be replaced then and i call for it again. I have never seen Raza Hasan bowl but if word is to be believed and he indeed has the talent then i think very soon we should begin giving him an exposure to international cricket. I cannot make informed decision on this as i have never seen the lad bowl myself.

To sum up, i am slightly worried about the remainder of the season more than just this test match. Asif and Amir were overbowled today although Salman had little options at his side with the thrashing received by Gul and Kaneria. I hope both these guys can keep it together and dont get unfit as it will be a huge blow for us. Asif is prone to injuries while i am always worried about Young Aamer. Hopefully tomorrow we can wrap it up soon and our bowlers can rest their legs for good 2 days, if our batting allows.

[AZ]

How about Sydney?:)

I thought we put that one to rest last week ;-)

[James]

330/4 on day 1 is pretty much guaranteeing us not losing, so I'm happy.

[Boi]

Well if Kamran wasn't an incompetent clown then maybe we could have had a better day.

First it was the dolly of a catch which he dropped. I mean, how can an international keeper drop a catch like that?
Then came the refferal; stupid stupid referral of when Pietersen allegedly edged it behind. He had the best position from everyone else to see if Kevin had edged it and yet he was still stupid enough to let Butt and Asif ask for the review. This then cost us when the fool, Da Silva, didn't give a plumb shout of Morgan off Maliks bowling. If we hadn't wasted that review maybe we would have the Morgan decision reversed. He also fluffed a simple stumping off Kaneria's bowling. He really needs to be chucked out. Incompetent fool.

Kaneria again was very poor. I don't know what's wrong with him. He's played 60+ tests and still doesn't know that you need to be patient whilst bowling in Tests. He had to keep bowling a 'hit me' bowl in each over to release the pressure. Along with Gul, both didn't back up the great job Aamer and Asif had done at the start.

I'm hoping tomorrow we can get some early wickets and restrict them below 400. It's going to be very tough though seen as though our bowlers have a tough time of finishing off the tail.

[Salazar]

This is what I wrote in the match thread, and I stand by it. "England is Kamran's boogeyman"

[insaaniyat]

I thought we put that one to rest last week ;-)

but remember the 2006 nightmare?:)

[umerz]

i hope we come back in the first session and bowl them out at around 400...and play sensibly with the bat....its not all lost....lets back up the players...even Kami and Dani....though they need chithar parade...even if Kaneria scores a 100 with the bat and Kamran successfully stumps a batsman

[Stewie]

some of these senior players dont like mentors .. so if you put kami in the same room with dujon, gilly, latif, jack russell, healy and sangakarra, throw away the key and open the door 6 months later, kami will stil be as bad a keeper as he is right now.

[MoinHaroon]

It was Englands day but the bowl was not doing much too. It is good that Pakistan's bowling is getting thrashed the first day of the series, may be they will treat this a wake up call, that is what one can hope for. They need atleast 2 good bowlers and 1 decent bowler so that they can win test. We have one good and one decent. We are almost there. One also has to realize that England is much better than Australia at this point.
May be tomorrow Pakistan batting is going to shine

[GLORY OF '92]

Clearly a terrible day for us. But we were going to have one so it's good to have it out of the way. I don't think we can draw with batting line up so our best chance is to keep England to 450, then get 350 and bowl Eng out for 150 and chase 250. Sounds unlikely but it's our only chance.

[Atif]

Clearly a terrible day for us. But we were going to have one so it's good to have it out of the way. I don't think we can draw with batting line up so our best chance is to keep England to 450, then get 350 and bowl Eng out for 150 and chase 250. Sounds unlikely but it's our only chance.

You never know, we might even score big in our first innings, Batting will always improve, wont always remain the same

[Awesome_Username]

You never know, we might even score big in our first innings, Batting will always improve, wont always remain the same

Umm.. 350 is big for us.

[iafzal]

Cant really blame butt for Kami dropping sitters and Gul bowling an awful length. The less we talk about kaneria the better.

Can same logic be Applied to Yousuf when Kami missed 5 chances?

[atif.raza]

Can same logic be Applied to Yousuf when Kami missed 5 chances?

And what will explain THAT field placements by Yousuf during Hussey-Siddle partnership?

[James]

Paul Collingwood is an incredible player. no other word to describe him from 2005 to present.

in other news, KP sucks :D

[GLORY OF '92]

Paul Collingwood is an incredible player. no other word to describe him from 2005 to present.

in other news, KP sucks :D

Just shows what can be done by grit and mental toughness.

[shan]

Cant see England losing this. So with our batting draw is impossible without heavy rain. Seriously Akmal have destroyed this test for us. Morgan should have been out when he was on 0 or something.

[James]

I'm not a statto but I bet Collingwood has saved more situations and made more significant innings in more wins and draws than any other England batsman in years, except Strauss.

[Easa]

I'm not a statto but I bet Collingwood has saved more situations and made more significant innings in more wins and draws than any other England batsman in years, except Strauss.
He's so annoying to watch, though. There's no flourish in his bat-lift, no life in his cuts. He even pulls the ball like he's constipated.

Must be great to watch if you're English though :D

[GLORY OF '92]

Btw KP is world class. He can dominate aus, just lack of match practice today cost him.

[James]

ohhhhh I have no problems in watching Collingwood forever. a good old fashioned 'bore the world to death' batsman. his 200-ball 40 to save the game in SA made me cream my pants.

[Safar55]

Aamir - bowled well - should have had strauss earlier bad drop by Kamran (less said about him the better) - 7.5/10

Asif - was ok but not at his best - 6/10

Gul - again was indifferent and at times wayward and did not get into a good rhythm. - his poor spell along with kaneria helped take pressure off England 5.5/10

Kaneria - Poor and very inconsistent - most capped player but still can't use his head when he bowls - keeper never helps him though - 4/10

Kamran Akmal - wicket keeping - Awful, don't want to say anymore about him 2/10 as he did catch something

Butt - not authoritative enough in the field, in his defence he's still learning and his most capped players Kaneria and Akmal are both brainless - so can't expect much help from them. Reviews were wasted. Less than average in the field so far in terms of captaincy 5/10

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England

Morgan - 9/10 - great performance even though was helped by poor bowling and terrible fielding

[Bilsher007]

It's just one ordinary day at the office, let it go. Happens to every team in the world. We didn't bowl 'badly' to be honest (okay, maybe Kaneria did), but it was just absolutely superb batting from Collingwood and Morgan's part, credit must go to them. They really battled hard out there to take them to a formidable position from a dangerous position at 110 odd with 4 wickets down.

A lot of the 'disappointment' in you guys is also because we haven't had such a 'bad' day at the office in the past month or so - we won both T20s against Australia, then gave a pretty decent fight in the First Test against them, and won the Second Test.. so everybody was expecting a lot from this team. They won't go out there and perform literally every day, especially against a team which is reasonably better (on current form and team strength) than the one we beat a few days ago. It's a young and inexperienced team, bad days will happen more often than not - but give them time, and good days will come.

All negative posters/wrist-slitters will finally come out of their caves now (as we haven't had a good day) and start handing out free razor blades to all of you, encouraging you to join them. Stay positive, stay strong. Good results will come soon. Hopefully our boys have a better day out there tomorrow :)

Pakistan Zindabad!


You could'nt have said it better, my thoughts are actually the same as yours. There is a thread already on are pace attack being overrated !? ha ha ha ha. All those wrist slitters are just kids who don't have any understanding of the game and how pitch conditions become a major factor.

The wicket is flat and at times with variable bounce with ball keeping low. Aamer, Asif and Gul have bowled well but at times gul has shown to lack rhythm. Kaneria was disaster

[Gulf of Gold]

After the high of Headingley, Pakistan's new-found confidence took something of a battering on the first day at Trent Bridge, as a combination of missed chances, squandered reviews and a double-hundred partnership between Eoin Morgan and Paul Collingwood conspired to take the game away from them. Nevertheless, on a flat deck that looks very good for batting, Pakistan remain confident of being able to reply in kind.

"It has been a very tough day for us today, but days come like this," said their rookie batsman, Umar Amin. "We tried our best but unfortunately we didn't get wickets at crucial times. But we'll try to come back again tomorrow. It will be a new day and we'll try to stick to the basics. There's not much in the pitch, but we'll try to restrict them to as little as possible."

At 118 for 4 in the first hour after lunch, Pakistan had an opening into England's middle order, with Collingwood and Morgan forced to graft for their runs against a dangerous moving ball. But crucial opportunities went begging courtesy of the keeper, Kamran Akmal, who was positioned too deep to collect a low nick when Morgan had made just 5, and later made a hash of a stumping with Collingwood still short of his half-century.

"We were in a good position, but unfortunately we gave it away," said Umar. "Eoin Morgan played a fantastic innings, but it was lucky that as soon as he came, Aamer got a snick but it didn't carry. Inshallah we'll come back tomorrow and try to get him out, because all of us tried very hard and we created half-chances, but we weren't able to capitalise on them."

Pakistan's morale dipped even further when they used up both of their reviews in the space of five minutes, as Kevin Pietersen survived a referral for lbw and caught-behind in quick succession. Akmal, in his capacity as wicketkeeper and senior player, was the key man in persuading his team to go to the third umpire on both occasions, but Umar believed the calls were justified.

"I think the review system is good when it goes in your favour," he said. "I thought at the time they were out, but unfortunately, they weren't, so I just consider it a hard day at the office. The senior players gave their opinions about those incidents, and it was the keeper who was the main man, but he's a very tough man and he'll come back tomorrow and try to compensate with his batting. I'm sure he'll do good tomorrow."

Morgan also had a brush with the review system in the course of his innings, when on 78 he was adjudged lbw as Danish Kaneria came round the wicket. "It was the first time I've used it, so it's been a bit different," he said. "I walked down the wicket and Colly said I think you should review it, so that knocked it on the head.

"The important thing is communication between the two batsmen, and being honest about it," he added. "If it feels natural then refer it, because the angle he was coming from, it was going to struggle to hit the stumps."

Pakistan have a big challenge ahead of them if they are to get back into this match, but under Salman Butt and through their exploits against Australia, they currently have the spirit to overcome adversity. At the close, the players went into a huddle on the boundary's edge, to reflect on a performance that hadn't gone to plan, and to start the process of regaining some measure of control.

"In cricket you learn every new day," said Umar. "We are a young unit, and we're becoming more and more united. We back each other and our captain, and we're becoming a very good unit. I think this is the perfect pitch for batsmen, so we'll try to make full use tomorrow. The key on this pitch is to stay on the front foot and manage the ball there. It won't be very difficult tomorrow."

[razzaq_03]

I am so angry because I think we could have had them out for 230 max and batted when the cloud covers went. We could have had 108-2/3 wickets at the end of the day. Oh well. Good luck for tomorrow boys. :)



And also about Danish Kaneria... Take him out of the squad forever please. :)

[bhakkar]

Inshallah batsmen will perform. Ton from Kamran akmal, azhar Ali, Umar amin, malik, umar akmal will be more than enough!

[Dr. Khan]

I hope we can walk the walk.
True it is a good pitch for batting now, I am worried over the course of the match and especially with us batting last on this pitch. It is already getting uneven and it looks like the pitch and the cracks on it are only going to deteriorate from here on end.

[iHammad]

Kamran and Kaneria were both retarded, and absolutely RUBBISH!

missed stumping, short and wide bowling, dropped dolly catches.....

hopefully we have a better day tomorrow :|

[iafzal]

On these kind of pitches Pak chance of winning are very low since our batting is not capable to score big. Big tets for batting coming up.
On a seaming, fast pitch our bowlers can keep us close, it seem it is not gonna happen here.

[bhakkar]

all i can say is tommorow is another day and with it another pakistan team (hopefully)
Inshallah!

We aint gonna lose this test match, trust me i know!!!

[Gulf of Gold]

70.2
Danish Kaneria to Collingwood, no run, 83.8 kph, missed stumping! Kamran's really not having a good day... Collingwood charged down the track, was beaten in the air and by the turn. He was practically walking off he was so far down, but Kamran fumbled the take, and couldn't pick the ball up before the batsman got back in. Kaneria really needed that wicket - Pakistan needed it!

That says it all.....but hope for the best tomorrow

[Gulf of Gold]

I am so angry because I think we could have had them out for 230 max and batted when the cloud covers went. We could have had 108-2/3 wickets at the end of the day. Oh well. Good luck for tomorrow boys. :)



And also about Danish Kaneria... Take him out of the squad forever please. :)

So lets persist with Akmal..our hero....lol

[Kriketer]

Pitch cracking on day 1 is bad from England pitches standard and there wasn't much for the pacers in the pitch.

One positive out of this day is that our team will realize that this series will be much tougher than Australia so they will need to try their level best against this in form England team. I am hopeful for early wickets tomorrow and then the game will be on. Cracking pitch and Swann though looks a little scary!!

[Omar Malik]

Didn't bother watching the highlights as throughout the day kept checking the scores on my phone and it was pretty much a bad day for Pakistan. As soon as I read about Kamran dropping a sitter that just completely put me off from watching the highlights tonight which I was going to watch. Well I still ended up watching a little bit but missed the catch he dropped and the stumping but later on got to see it courtesy GEO NEWS who were rubbing it in to the team and players!

331/4 for England at the end of Day 1 and things not looking pretty bright for us but the morning session will be a vital one as if we can get 2-3 wickets early on then it might be a better start for us in the 2nd day.

Aamer and Asif will have to do the bulk of the work as Gul and Danish really need to sort themselves out especially the NO-BALLS issue faced by both of them as its really surprising seeing a spinner over step so very often. Saying that even Saqlain had the problem too but again its something that upon working can be sorted out.

[90MPH]

This pitch is a result pitch, there is no doubt about it. I think it is already too late for Pakistan to turn this match around. The wicket-keeper has to take quite a bit of the blame for this.

[gravity_killz]

I hope the rain doesn't change the pitch dramatically !

[rajachoudhary50]

Akmal better get a big hundred to make up for the howlers. Im expecting nothing less than 150 from him
Hahahah 150 kya bazzar may purchase karenga

[DOOSRA95]

half of the team are not cricket educated,just pure dumb Cricketers.
that really is sad,they keep making same mistake over and over again..........no end in sight.
Extremely Disappointed day's criket.

[AZ]

^ what the HELL does that have to do with today's performance? will them being parhha likhha mean they will bowl perfect line and length?

[rsk]

[QUOTE=razzaq_03;2795477]I am so angry because I think we could have had them out for 230 max and batted when the cloud covers went. We could have had 108-2/3 wickets at the end of the day. Oh well. Good luck for tomorrow boys. :)



And also about Danish Kaneria... Take him out of the squad forever please. :)[/QUOTE

According to me , kaneria is a victim and the real culprit is that KATMAL.

[Kriketer]

half of the team are not cricket educated,just pure dumb Cricketers.
that really is sad,they keep making same mistake over and over again..........no end in sight.
Extremely Disappointed day's criket.

What do you expect from the other team? They will show up and just wrap up. Get real, we will have good days and bad days, all part of playing a professional sport. Australians have been struggling of late, will you call them dumb cricketers too?

[AZ]

yes, Kaneria was the victim of full-tossitis.

[Easa]

yes, Kaneria was the victim of full-tossitis.
I know he served up rubbish all day but it's hard to look past the fact that Kamran missed another chance off him today. The look on Danish's face was really something to see: there was only disappointment for a brief second but then he just turned around and walked back to his mark - he's become all too used to this. That could have turned his game around for us.

[Amir]

I know he served up rubbish all day but it's hard to look past the fact that Kamran missed another chance off him today.

Actually it is quite easy. Regardless of how crap Kamran was...does not change the rubbish Kaneria served up (again). Instead of being 0-150 at the end of the innings, he would have just been 1-150.

[KingKhanWC]

It just wasn't our day today. :(

I've just been on another forum and the England fans are thinking it's going to be 4-0.

Kamran had a shocker but these things happen in cricket. Both Morgan and Collingwood could have gone early and things would have been different.

Kaneria was the biggest disappointment for me, he should have been more threatining.

Oh, well, tommorow is another day and it could be ours.

Pakistan Zindabad.

[AZ]

I know he served up rubbish all day but it's hard to look past the fact that Kamran missed another chance off him today. The look on Danish's face was really something to see: there was only disappointment for a brief second but then he just turned around and walked back to his mark - he's become all too used to this. That could have turned his game around for us.

hard to look past? that happened in the 3rd session, the 2 sessions prior to that Kaneria had been serving up garbage, which hampered any plans Pakistan may have had to exert pressure...not what you would expect from a 60 Test veteran.

Kami was horrendous today, but Danish's personal performance did not do any favours either.

[Maula Jutt]

Tomorrow is another day, guys. So relax. It's not over till it's over.

[qaiser]

paul 'Bradman' Collingwood who is pakistan tormentor even when he is not in form but this time he is in form.

Someone plz remove Akmals, Malik, Gul, Kaneria and replace them with Yasir Hameed, Fawad Alam, Rehman, Tanvir, Sarfaraz and Pakistan team will be much better.

I am saying ''Someone' as pcb with big Butt and Yawar are part of Malik Mafia'
I also feel sorry for Kaneria with useless hole in the gloves Akmal behind the stum p which don't do any good to his already low confidence.

I agree with Aquib Akmal's keeping is very suspicious esp with bookie brother in law.
kami's drop catch of strauss, failing to gather morgan, and easy stump of collingwood are too bad to be unintentional at test cricket level.

I feel zulqarnain was inducted as a knee jirk reflex to remove sarfaraz. zulqurnain gave 12 buys in a score of little over 200 which speak of his keeping.
Inti calling pak players retard was most probably referring to akmals, kaneria and gul.

maybe malik mafia is trying to get rid of non punjabi gul, kaneria as they removed and fawad and afraid to let yasir hameed play.

I don't know how these dark clouds over pak cricket going to go away.

[insaaniyat]

paul 'Bradman' Collingwood who is pakistan tormentor even when he is not in form but this time he is in form.

Someone plz remove Akmals, Malik, Gul, Kaneria and replace them with Yasir Hameed, Fawad Alam, Rehman, Tanvir, Sarfaraz and Pakistan team will be much better.

I am saying ''Someone' as pcb with big Butt and Yawar are part of Malik Mafia'
I also feel sorry for Kaneria with useless hole in the gloves Akmal behind the stum p which don't do any good to his already low confidence.

I agree with Aquib Akmal's keeping is very suspicious esp with bookie brother in law.
kami's drop catch of strauss, failing to gather morgan, and easy stump of collingwood are too bad to be unintentional at test cricket level.

Inti calling pak players retard was most probably referring to akmals, kaneria and gul.

maybe malik mafia is trying to get rid of non punjabi gul, kaneria as they removed and fawad and afraid to let yasir hameed play.

I don't know how these dark clouds over pak cricket going to go away.

Good post regarding Akmal. Just don't understand how one can keep getting selected withthat kind of performance?

[adnan yasin]

Seriously this is ridiculous..if any body is still defending akmal keeping... by saying it happen in cricket... i think he should leave cricket and play gulli danda ..

drop catches do happen aussies did as well... but not CONSISTENTLY.......i think he will be the first keeper in history who is in the team even after dropping and missing stumping chances on regular basis...against AUSSIES he got one good catch thats it.. rest was wicket taken by bowlers .. bowled/lbw.....

he just can keep against danish kaneria when the ball is bit turning...

BUT DANISH KANERIA also bowled pathetically....apart from missed stumped chance.. he bowled horribly ..

only a miracle will happen to make you win a test match...if you drop and missed such chances

we have given almost 80 runs i guess.. due to missed stump and catch .. and add poor fielding.. .. make it to 100 runs :P

[Saurav]

It is a batting wicket ? and keeper did miss couple of chances, could have been a total diffrent scorecard had we not wasted the chances...

so u r saying ur bowlers cant do as well on a batting wicket?.chances r missed.thats part of the game.there were 2 chances only anyway.

i wonder how u guys keep persisting with Kamran?isnt there another better keeper in domestic cricket?

Anyway its always funny to see an indian fan laughing at other teams bowling attack...

i'm no saying we r better.but u guys hype ur attack as the best.if thats the case,it should be able to adapt.they r good,but far too inconsistent to be the best for me.even Strauss doesnt believe its the best.

n where is that guy who was saying Gul is better than Zaheer.Zak ran thru a much better batting line-up on the same pitch in 2007 n helped us bowl them out for 197.n Gul is struggling so far. go figure

[ali2220]

so u r saying ur bowlers cant do as well on a batting wicket?.chances r missed.thats part of the game.there were 2 chances only anyway.

i wonder how u guys keep persisting with Kamran?isnt there another better keeper in domestic cricket?



i'm no saying we r better.but u guys hype ur attack as the best.if thats the case,it should be able to adapt.they r good,but far too inconsistent to be the best for me.even Strauss doesnt believe its the best.

n where is that guy who was saying Gul is better than Zaheer.Zak ran thru a much better batting line-up on the same pitch in 2007 n helped us bowl them out for 197.n Gul is struggling so far. go figure

ONLY 2 chances!! if those two chances had been taken then it would have been English tailenders batting now.
The bowlers are still doing fine, its the keeper that is inconsistent and not the bowler.And no point mentioning about Indian bowlers, for if Stauss believe that Pak attack is not the best then almost everyone outside India believe that Indian bowlers are rubbish! Now go and figure that out.

[ali2220]

Anyway its always funny to see an indian fan laughing at other teams bowling attack...

Let them have a few laughs, afterall their bowling attack is mocked at throughout the world.

[Amjid Javed]

During the summer Pakistan will have good and bad days. Its bound to happen.

Worst thing about yesterday was the lack of though put into the bowling and the lack of discapline. Pretty much pakistan were giving boundary balls every over!

The two so called spinners Danish Pastry Thrower and Moon Pie malik was a joke!

Pakistan need to show an a good response today 1st with ball and then bat!

[shaykh1985]

This Test for me was going to be about which team bowled better...i dont think England are a particularly good batting side but we were atrocious with the ball and in the field...

Gul was appalling...hes fast becoming a Pakistani James Anderson in terms of his consistency...how a professional cricketer can't sort out their run up I have no idea...Kaneria's performance was pathetic too...for all the good work Aamer and Asif did these two went and ruined it...

But even their performances couldnt beat Englands 12th man Kamran...everyones said their piece on this guy as have i so neednt say more...despite Kamran's England heroics I'm still mildly positive...I think we'll bat well in this Test Match or atleast I hope we will...

[adnan yasin]

its a 300 track for sure...

they were 118/4

UMAR GUL bowled badly... danish was horrible... but BUTT sahab persisted with him..

when out of blue moon DANISH Created chance the brilliance of AKMAL seen ONCE AGAIN and history repeat itself AKMAL missed stump chance.. catch drop wo extra runs de deyay

ITS TRUE TEAMS DO MISS CHANCES BUT ON CONSISTENT BASIS SINCE 2005 :) SORRY BUT THIS DIDNT HAPPEN

Question is... they will score 400 for sure... AND if our batting fail now.. who to blame to ? KEEPER/BOWLING or BATTING?

to me 400 runs should not have scored...and due to bad keeping and catching teams score runs and we blame our batting ... happening since 2005 on consistent basis

[boomboomafridi10]

What I don't understand is why kamran was stood so deep, shane warne mentioned it numerous times as well, so many deliveries struggled to carry to the keeper, surely he should have moved closer and had more of a chance with some of the dying edges.

[Zedman]

You never know, we might even score big in our first innings, Batting will always improve, wont always remain the same
Were you writing this is your sleep????? You think Pakistan a) Have a chance and b) Can score 350 and c) Can bowl England out for 150 in 2nd innings??

This match is gone already I'm afraid. Basically because we let England off the hook.

Kamran has done it again. A series defining day in which he made the deciding mistakes. I cannot think of a worst way to start the series. Our bowlers were poor apart from Aamer and Asif to a degree. Kamran was appaling. Chances dropped. Opportunities missed. A huge score imminent Our bowlers over-hyped and found out on the 1st day. And now as you will see...... our batting will crumble.

The other thing to note. Morgan. How many million times is he better then U Akmal????

[boomboomafridi10]

Were you writing this is your sleep????? You think Pakistan a) Have a chance and b) Can score 350 and c) Can bowl England out for 150 in 2nd innings??

This match is gone already I'm afraid. Basically because we let England off the hook.

Lol I totally agree, we've lost this game..batting will crumble, no doubt, to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if we had to follow on. England look set for 500 plus.