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90MPH
30th August 2010, 06:18
Oh my days - these are the headlines of The Sun newspaper tomorrow (sister paper of Noftw) I kid you not.

Sledger
30th August 2010, 06:19
Akmal dropped how many in this game?

(After being virtually spotless against Aus)

Strike!
30th August 2010, 06:21
Oh come on. :(

Mo.
30th August 2010, 06:21
Link:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3116657/First-Pakistan-Test-was-nobbled-too.html

ali_ed2006
30th August 2010, 06:21
This is ridiculous. Taking all the credit away from England's emphatic series win. Just because we lost the match and are incompetent, doesn't mean every match we lose is fixed.

*sallu*
30th August 2010, 06:21
Great !!!

khalil1986
30th August 2010, 06:22
This just gets better.

Sledger
30th August 2010, 06:22
This is ridiculous. Taking all the credit away from England's emphatic series win. Just because we lost the match and are incompetent, doesn't mean every match we lose is fixed.

The Sun is an English paper.

Saqs
30th August 2010, 06:22
The ECB should step in on this.

They are overshadowing some brilliant cricket that was played by the English team.

I feel for them. All the players efforts and achievements (Swann's brilliant bowling, Broad's century, that epic comeback etc.) are all being overshadowed by this.

Surely the ECB will have to step in at some stage.

90MPH
30th August 2010, 06:23
I just saw this on skynews paper round though nothing on the Sun website yet.

But this is tomorrows headline story on the Sun - intact nearly all the papers have Aamirs picture on the front news.

ThaSiccSense
30th August 2010, 06:25
They have a lot of information, they don't reveal it all at once. Expect A LOT more to follow.

ThaSiccSense
30th August 2010, 06:26
The ECB should step in on this.

They are overshadowing some brilliant cricket that was played by the English team.

I feel for them. All the players efforts and achievements (Swann's brilliant bowling, Broad's century, that epic comeback etc.) are all being overshadowed by this.

Surely the ECB will have to step in at some stage.

Step in for what? Pakistan's alleged fixing? they gave Pakistan a home away from home and have been repayed like this.

Wasim_Waqar
30th August 2010, 06:28
dad said in January he felt the team especially K Akmal were match-fixing. How right he was.

My friend from Lahore said the same...how right he was

duostyle
30th August 2010, 06:29
Amir's photo on front on every newspaper?

Surely he isn't the ringleader lol.

shaykh1985
30th August 2010, 06:29
The players get between 750-1950 a month...thats peanuts it really is...especially in comparison to 10000 a month the English earn...

Mo.
30th August 2010, 06:30
dad said in January he felt the team especially K Akmal were match-fixing. How right he was.

My friend from Lahore said the same...how right he was

Even I said it on here during the Australia tour and got ridiculed for it

ThaSiccSense
30th August 2010, 06:31
Peanuts? they get paid much more than the average joe, Aamer got a cheque for 4000 today for man of the series, hardly peanuts.

ahsan17
30th August 2010, 06:32
The players get between 750-1950 a month...thats peanuts it really is...especially in comparison to 10000 a month the English earn...

Not true at all. Close to 400,000 PKR for top contract players per month plus quite a bit from each test, ODI, T20 as well.

Mo.
30th August 2010, 06:32
The players get between 750-1950 a month...thats peanuts it really is...especially in comparison to 10000 a month the English earn...

In pounds?

Surely that's more than enough to live comfortably in Pakistan...?

asifp
30th August 2010, 06:32
read the article, its has absolute no meat in it all. Sun is known for its absurd claims.

bhakkar
30th August 2010, 06:33
dad said in January he felt the team especially K Akmal were match-fixing. How right he was.

My friend from Lahore said the same...how right he was

my uncle said the same thing after sydney, i laughed and said this isnt the 90s anymore, how right he was....

asifp
30th August 2010, 06:33
Not true at all. Close to 400,000 PKR for top contract players per month plus quite a bit from each test, ODI, T20 as well.

i though top grade was like 200,000 and lowest grade was 75,000.

Yossarian
30th August 2010, 06:33
Tomorrow The SUN and SKY will claim that 2 more RESULTS were fixed by the Pakistan players.
They will even show video's of the players celebrating about all the money they have made by fixing these 2 Test match results.

The 2nd Test against Australia and the3rd Test against England!

the Great Khan
30th August 2010, 06:35
Tomorrow The SUN and SKY will claim that 2 more RESULTS were fixed by the Pakistan players.
They will even show video's of the players celebrating about all the money they have made by fixing these 2 Test match results.

The 2nd Test against Australia and the3rd Test against England!

hunh? but they won both? so who fixed them? you sure you got that right?

Saqs
30th August 2010, 06:36
Step in for what? Pakistan's alleged fixing? they gave Pakistan a home away from home and have been repayed like this.

Uhh...no.

Step in to help the English cricket team out. Their performances don't deserve to be tainted with crazy claims like "every match was fixed".

ThaSiccSense
30th August 2010, 06:36
Spot fixing again probably.

Wasim_Waqar
30th August 2010, 06:36
You know...during 1st T20 Pak v Aus when Pak were 47-4, I shouted 'MATCH FIXING' really loud and you could hear a pin drop. Then I said, yep, you can all hear me, they've eaten the paisa

Also I said to my friend whilst at Edgbaston that I believed K Akmal was taking bribes to drop catches

Javelin, Pak throw matches..not to win. Eng and Aus have integrity

Cracket
30th August 2010, 06:37
lol, you guys need to prepare for a whole bunch of these. "The Telegraph" says about 80 games will be investigated, all these games happened in the time frame the fixer said he was active.

ThaSiccSense
30th August 2010, 06:38
Uhh...no.

Step in to help the English cricket team out. Their performances don't deserve to be tainted with crazy claims like "every match was fixed".

ECB want the truth.

shaykh1985
30th August 2010, 06:38
Not true at all. Close to 400,000 PKR for top contract players per month plus quite a bit from each test, ODI, T20 as well.

Im just going from the quote in the article...and the sun have most likely got it wrong...

ShaazE
30th August 2010, 06:39
It should come as no surprise. Seriously England winning comfortably? That's fishy as is, and then you add Butt and company to the mix and it should be as clear as a sunny day.

duostyle
30th August 2010, 06:40
lol, you guys need to prepare for a whole bunch of these. "The Telegraph" says about 80 games will be investigated, all these games happened in the time frame the fixer said he was active.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/7971107/Cricket-match-fixing-suspicion-falls-on-80-games.html

Right you are, my man.

Was expected though after he revealed he's been fixing for 2 and a half years.

sanakazmi
30th August 2010, 06:41
speaking of what they get paid, amir and uakmal have the lowest grade contract, right?

Yossarian
30th August 2010, 06:42
hunh? but they won both? so who fixed them? you sure you got that right?It's a comment about SKY tv and SUN newspaper (sister paper of NOTW)

Think of FOX in the USA, - all owned by Murdoch.

jaspa888
30th August 2010, 06:44
Not true at all. Close to 400,000 PKR for top contract players per month plus quite a bit from each test, ODI, T20 as well.

Not according to cricinfo...
http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/452541.html

Maula Jutt
30th August 2010, 06:45
The players get between 750-1950 a month...thats peanuts it really is...especially in comparison to 10000 a month the English earn...

They are cricketers who have the unique opportunity of representing their country internationally and writing their own legacy. Any number of people would do anything for this same opportunity. So of course, there is no moral justification for getting money in underhanded ways.

In the national team, they get enough to support their family. However, they have no job security and our first class structure to which they fall back on in case the national team drops them, is pathetic and they dont pay enough to even support their families. In fact, there is no job security even there and players are on contract basis.

This is why our players, when they get into national teams, collect as much money as possible so they have a cushion to fall back on if they are dropped like a hot potato tomorrow.

Therefore, if we dont want our teams to cheat us, we need to provide them with a better first class club structure where they have job security and money to support families.

Having this cushion to fall back on, our players would be dissuaded from cheating when in national team.

jaspa888
30th August 2010, 06:46
The players get between 750-1950 a month...thats peanuts it really is...especially in comparison to 10000 a month the English earn...

Pakistan has a cost of living one tenth that of England so I agree it is foolish to compare like for like.

Plus the Pakistanis playersare much higher profile sportsmen in their country so have more opportunities to earn commercial revenue (excluding match fixing!) than their English counterparts.

Yossarian
30th August 2010, 06:47
lol, you guys need to prepare for a whole bunch of these. "The Telegraph" says about 80 games will be investigated, all these games happened in the time frame the fixer said he was active.Pakistan have not played around 80 games in the last two and a half years, have they ?

Maula Jutt
30th August 2010, 06:48
dad said in January he felt the team especially K Akmal were match-fixing. How right he was.

My friend from Lahore said the same...how right he was



As soon as this news came out, my brother (who never watches cricket anymore but used to at one time) came up to me and said, "This is why I gave up watching cricket after '99". I usually respond by mocking him but this time, I had no answer.

saqlain
30th August 2010, 06:50
Now there is one news about spot-fixing and everyone is going to declare every single match Pakistan played as "fixed". People have nothing better to do than speculation on anything they can jump on. Pakistan lost all three test matches because they are a poor team and no one is going to deny that. The allegations which are against few individuals are true but I dont think they cause Pakistan to lose the game. It was for bowling no-balls or wide-balls at certain point during the game.

aqeelPK
30th August 2010, 06:57
My friend told me during the t20 wc semifinal inns interval against aus, that the match is fixed put as much money as you can on aus, but i didnt believe him at that time coz we had 190+ on the board. how right he was. :(

saqlain
30th August 2010, 07:01
Now there is one news about spot-fixing and everyone is going to declare every single match Pakistan played as "fixed". People have nothing better to do than speculation on anything they can jump on. Pakistan lost all three test matches because they are a poor team and no one is going to deny that. The allegations which are against few individuals are true but I dont think they cause Pakistan to lose the game. It was for bowling no-balls or wide-balls at certain point during the game.


My friend told me during the t20 wc semifinal inns interval against aus, that the match is fixed put as much money as you can on aus, but i didnt believe him at that time coz we had 190+ on the board. how right he was. :(

Exactly what I was talking about.

zimran72
30th August 2010, 07:04
As soon as this news came out, my brother (who never watches cricket anymore but used to at one time) came up to me and said, "This is why I gave up watching cricket after '99". I usually respond by mocking him but this time, I had no answer.

My dad said the same thing except he said this is why I stopped following/supporting Pakistan and found someone else to support.

saj001
30th August 2010, 07:07
+1 :(

ahmed16
30th August 2010, 07:10
Na it wasnt, you have to be joking. (tongue firmly in cheek).

Amoeba
30th August 2010, 07:42
Of course it was as was the 2nd and 4th test. You just don't lose that badly.

Down2Earth
30th August 2010, 07:44
i'm still shocked by all this, god only knows what else will come out. god help us all

UntouchablePlaya
30th August 2010, 08:00
remove all the match-fixers.

Safar55
30th August 2010, 12:00
No real substance in the Sun article... however I wouldn't put it past Butt and co to have manufactured the result. We dropped way too many catches... and Umar Amin i remember dropped a sitter.... but can't recall if that was the 2nd test. Definitely a dodgy result because of the sitters we dropped and having at least 7 guys in on it would make it easier to cover up.

Also Mazhar said the team were trying to win the last two tests as they wanted Butt to remain as Captain....depending on when he said this....it implies the first two tests may have had some irregular activities going on.

Down2Earth
30th August 2010, 12:03
farhat has dropped real dollies too, not too sure how he managed to escape all this

Sakss
30th August 2010, 12:13
all the pakistan matches since 1948 have been fixed..this will make the ***** happy.chapter closed....

Gollum
30th August 2010, 12:14
all the pakistan matches since 1948 have been fixed..this will make the ***** happy.chapter closed....

err 1952 :malik

nightwatchman
30th August 2010, 12:15
farhat has dropped real dollies too, not too sure how he managed to escape all this

if there is a proper investigation, i expect his name to pop up sooner rather than later.

Atif
30th August 2010, 15:17
PAKISTAN players fixed ANOTHER Test match against England, it was claimed last night.
The shock allegation that the First Test was nobbled came as cricket was plunged into crisis over a match-fixing ring.


bowled no-balls in the Fourth Test.

Three Pakistan stars including Amir had their mobiles seized by cops.

And police were told a MONTH ago about match-fixing in the England v Pakistan Test series, The Sun can reveal.

Scotland Yard's Assistant Commissioner Cressida Dick was tipped off over alleged corruption in the first match.

An intelligence source warned that several Pakistani cricketers were fixing events within the match, held at Trent Bridge, Nottingham, in July.

Ms Dick, head of the Specialist Crime Directorate, was still assessing that information yesterday when a News of the World probe exposed a Pakistani match-fixing ring.

The informant told cops a middle-man had corrupted at least one key Pakistani player for a large-scale betting sting involving Asian syndicates.

A source told The Sun: "The information given to Assistant Commissioner Dick was credible. But such an investigation would have soaked up a huge amount of resources, with no guarantee of a result.

"The intelligence was still being analysed to see if there was any possible way forward. It now transpires that corruption has continued.

"With what emerged yesterday and the information supplied four weeks ago, it's hard to see how people will look at cricket the same again. Millions will have been watching on Sunday wondering if it was real or not." The sport was plunged into crisis yesterday as fixer Mazhar Majeed was exposed after being filmed taking 150,000 from undercover reporters.

Pakistani bowlers Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif produced no balls exactly as Majeed had promised they would during the Fourth Test at Lord's that ended yesterday.

Majeed, 35, was yesterday arrested at his 1.8 million home in Croydon, South London, on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud bookmakers. He was still in custody last night.

Pakistan captain Salman Butt, bowlers Amir and Asif and wicketkeeper Kamran Akmal were all questioned by police, team manager Yawar Saeed revealed. Butt, Asif and Amir, 18 - named Pakistan's man of the series - had their mobile phones seized.

Mr Saeed said Majeed acted as agent for several Pakistan players, but was banned from visiting them in their hotel rooms on tour.

Majeed told the reporters he had already made "masses of money" - including 830,000 from one match - and had set up Swiss bank accounts for the players. Pakistan's Test cricketers are paid from 750 to 1,900 a month, in contrast to England stars who are on at least 10,000 a month.

Shocked ex-captain Imran Khan last night urged cricket chiefs not to ban Pakistan and punish the whole country for the actions of "a handful of people". He added: "People who are found guilty should be removed from the team and punished."

Police declined to comment on the tip-off.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3116657/First-Pakistan-Test-was-nobbled-too.html

Atif
30th August 2010, 15:23
I am expecting more allegations to be pusblished next few days...

adarsh_bang
30th August 2010, 15:41
1900 opposed to 10000 ???that's a big difference isn't it?? But i 'm not justifying what they did,just feeling for amer . . . Poor kid got poor and shameful company resulting in spoiling his integrity