View Full Version : Imran Khan Was Told 4 Main Players Would Throw The Match In 1989
insaftak
1st September 2010, 19:32
The controversy recalls a moment in 1989, when he was warned of a plot to corrupt his team. "I was called in the middle of the night," he says. "It was the final of the Australasia Cup against Australia in Sharjah. I was told that four of our main players had either been bought or would throw the match."
The next morning, Mr Khan summoned his team. "I told them, 'Look, I know all of you and I know cricket. If I see any of you underperforming, I will not just have you banned, I will ensure that you go to jail." He told the coach to bet the team's entire prize money on winning. It worked. "We won the match," he says, and later it was "confirmed that bookmakers had tried to influence the players".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
TAK
1st September 2010, 19:44
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
imran also lead by example
it must be difficult for a man who bites cricket balls and dances on wickets to enforce any kind of discipline
pakistanalltheway
1st September 2010, 19:47
yeah the 4 players warned him and said if we win they will kill us[mafia]
afridi cant match up to imran khan ever
asifp
1st September 2010, 19:49
There was a reason he would be the captain of the all time cricket team. Greatest captain and all rounder ever.
saeed-sohail
1st September 2010, 19:54
Try telling this to teen brigade here who is in denial.
tanzeel
1st September 2010, 19:54
Wish we had him as a cricket administrator right now, Malik+Butt-a brigade would think twice before even contemplating pulling off all the shenanigans that they're used to getting away with. Imran would put the fear of God into all these jabronis. Too bad he's dedicated himself to something that he absolutely sucks at; Imran the politician is no better than the JUI/ANP idiots. He'd be better off as a cricket administrator, a field where he'd be able to make a positive contribution.
Warfare
1st September 2010, 19:55
Imran Khan had that kind of tiger leadership that no other captain has ever provided us with. Thats why we need Younis Khan back ASAP for the ODIs too.
suhaib
1st September 2010, 19:59
stop living in fantasy land, imran khan was just a match fixer like the rest.
difference here is that afridi has allready made his fortunes before and now wants to get on with it.
saamry
1st September 2010, 20:00
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
At imran's time, Chairman was probably not involved himself or at the least did not interfere.
These are two different times. Look at Imran, who is listening to him now in politics? It does depend who is willing to listen to you and back you up.
atif.raza
1st September 2010, 20:01
One of those players must have been Amir Sohail or Amir might have been out of the team but still getting commision from those involved
classic
1st September 2010, 20:04
He asked the boyz to put down their winnings and back themselves ...Double or Quits ...and we WON ..
Maybe Afridi should tell the boyz this also.
Savak
1st September 2010, 20:13
I think people are being unfair on Afridi. Imran Khan back then was the supreme leader of the squad, he had the full backing of the board, selectors. Heck he could select and drop whoever he wanted. There was no one bigger than him in the team back then and no one could challenge him. Anyone who liked him or hated him in the team, it didnt matter because at the end of the day they all had to toe his line. So it was easier for Imran to take the bold, aggressive approach against his team mates when he heard of this. And yes Wasim Akram was one of the players who admitted to Imran that he was approached.
Afridi in contrast has no such authority, there will never be another Imran khan. Afridi has team mates who are conspiring against him. Plus the success of Afridi as captain depends on his own form with the bat especially. Apart from that, its not easy to impose yourself on the team, team members when you do not have the complete backing of the team manager, coach, selectors, PCB chairman and do not have the authority to select your own team at will.
Stupid comparison really.
TAK
1st September 2010, 20:16
the point is that imran earned that degree of authority and respect
it didn't just happen overnight
sadly afridi with his sporadic abufoon like batting and assosciated unsavoury antics will never be in a position to earn that right
younis khan was heading in the right direction that direction until he encountered turbulence...
DeadlyVenom
1st September 2010, 20:21
I think at the moment Imran Khan can do more good for country as PCB chairman than with his small political party
KingKhanWC
1st September 2010, 20:22
Imran is the King of Pakistan cricket.
No player could ever argue with Imran because he led from the front. He performed first and then asked his players to perform. Imran loves his country above money and fame.
May the Almighty protect this man and make him the leader of Pakistan.
insaftak
1st September 2010, 20:23
I think at the moment Imran Khan can do more good for country as PCB chairman than with his small political party
unfortunately people need him more on social work/political front than on cricket.
He has raised Rs 450 million in 9 days for flood victims. he should stick with those and keep putting pressure on corrupt idiots. someone Else needs to step up to save Cricket.
Harry
1st September 2010, 20:23
Who were the four players who were supposed to have been approached. Do you have an idea???
Stupid comparison really.[/QUOTE]
saeed-sohail
1st September 2010, 20:24
One of those players must have been Amir Sohail or Amir might have been out of the team but still getting commision from those involved
Are we talking about same Aamir sohail who exposed match fixeres when he was at his peak and destined to lead Pakistan for a long time.Stop this nonesense.
kingusama92
1st September 2010, 20:25
Very clever from Imran Khan.
Bet their prize money on the game. :)))
Watch them start playing properly in a second. It was bound to work.
bhakkar
1st September 2010, 20:49
I saw a bit of Imran khan in younis khan! *SIGH*
Mobashir
1st September 2010, 20:50
Afridi did like younis khan, he runaway!!! Younis Khan left after the ODi serie agaisnt New Zeland in Dubai so did Afridi after the first Test.
insaftak
1st September 2010, 20:54
Afridi did like younis khan, he runaway!!! Younis Khan left after the ODi serie agaisnt New Zeland in Dubai so did Afridi after the first Test.
Younis khan didn't know his team was match fixing. Afridi on other hand came out and said he knew about match fixing.
Mobashir
1st September 2010, 20:59
Younis khan didn't know his team was match fixing. Afridi on other hand came out and said he knew about match fixing.
Ok, first we both don't know if Younis did know or not about match fixing... And there was still no good letting the team play in difficult conditions without him...
And secondly their is no point opening all these threads where you guys are saying that Afridi didn't do like Imran Khan did... Imran Khan was the greatest captain and PLAYER, he had FULL power... How do you want a man coming back after 4 years having much influence...
HE did the right thing by telling PCB when he learnt about the match fixers...
If PCB didn't did anything it's not Afridi to blame we all know how much Ijaz Butt listen to others...
KingKhanWC
1st September 2010, 21:05
the point is that imran earned that degree of authority and respect
it didn't just happen overnight
sadly afridi with his sporadic abufoon like batting and assosciated unsavoury antics will never be in a position to earn that right
younis khan was heading in the right direction that direction until he encountered turbulence...
Exactly. Imran fought hard and his on the field special performances made it impossible for the fatcats to ingore him.
Stewie
1st September 2010, 21:17
This one is a well known story..
If I remember correctly, when Imran found out about it he consulted Miandad and Inti on what to do and Miandad was the one who suggested to bet their entire prize money on winning. It was a huge step to take. It basically shows either how confident Imran and Miandad were of winning or that they did not give two hoots about the money, but wanted to send a strong message to the team. I guess whatever they wanted to do worked and it was really a stroke of genius.
I have to say they did not even make a big deal out of it at that time and it was all kept inside the team. Imran only disclosed this incident after match fixing came into light a few years after the incident.
I have to say those were courageous and ethical men amongst some greedy and country selling boys who seem to be more of a norm than the exception these days in the team.
Stewie
1st September 2010, 21:18
Afridi did like younis khan, he runaway!!! Younis Khan left after the ODi serie agaisnt New Zeland in Dubai so did Afridi after the first Test.
There is a difference you see.. Imran had a hold over the Board.
Younis didnt In fact I am starting to believe the board is in on the money making spot fixing business with the team.
So basically its one guy, i.e, the captain against the board, majority of the players, etc.. What can he hope to accomplish?? Go to the President? I am sure the President is also on the take..
Waq
1st September 2010, 21:21
When I read this in the newspaper, I had a great sense of pride come all over me.
Patriotism and balls is omething that Imran Khan has by the bucket load. It is also what is required by the new generation.
There is a reason why we all fell in love with Zulqarnanin Haider at the Edgbaston test. It was not because of his amazing talent and array of shots but his patriotism and big cahoonas.
Mobashir
1st September 2010, 21:35
There is a difference you see.. Imran had a hold over the Board.
Younis didnt In fact I am starting to believe the board is in on the money making spot fixing business with the team.
So basically its one guy, i.e, the captain against the board, majority of the players, etc.. What can he hope to accomplish?? Go to the President? I am sure the President is also on the take..
I totally agree with you, and i have nothing agaisnt Younis Khan, he is a good player and look to be a honest person too... But the same applies for Shahid Afridi too, he lonely couldn't do anyhting, he did the best he could and informed PCB and a journalist about what was going on...
The thread Opener has an obsession agaisnt Afridi maybe, he posted a greath thing done by Imran Khan and i don't know why brought in Shahid Afridi when every single person know the difference of calibre between Imran Khan and any other Pakistani player...
Stewie
1st September 2010, 21:38
I think its foolish to blame the players right now.. the president of Pakistan and our Cricket Board is the axis of all the evils plaguing the team.
Once you correct issues at the top, the bottom men will automatically fall into line.
TigerJat
1st September 2010, 21:40
I totally agree with you, and i have nothing agaisnt Younis Khan, he is a good player and look to be a honest person too... But the same applies for Shahid Afridi too, he lonely couldn't do anyhting, he did the best he could and informed PCB and a journalist about what was going on...
The thread Opener has an obsession agaisnt Afridi maybe, he posted a greath thing done by Imran Khan and i don't know why brought in Shahid Afridi when every single person know the difference of calibre between Imran Khan and any other Pakistani player...
It is really unfair to compare any player with Imran Khan.
When he was in charge, there was no one to second guess him. The board did not really have too much input or authority.
That type of power however, has to be earned, as Imran did. Afridi does not have enough talent or personality to do that.
Younis Khan could've gotten to that point, but needed a couple more years and winning of a few more series before he could reach that level
Mobashir
1st September 2010, 21:42
I think its foolish to blame the players right now.. the president of Pakistan and our Cricket Board is the axis of all the evils plaguing the team.
Once you correct issues at the top, the bottom men will automatically fall into line.
Unfortunately that is not for tomorrow...
IMMY69
1st September 2010, 21:47
I remember hearing from someone that in 1992 worldcup, IK couldn't trust salim malik and hence he batted him lower down the order. People will say malik was in bad form, but do you seriously become that bad in a few months? From scoring 2000 runs fir Essex to looking like a complete numpty in the worldcup? Then 3 months later going back to his majestic form against England??
Any I also recall hearing that once IK learned that there was betting going on for the team to lose that he called a team meeting and wagered everyones match fees on a Pakistan worldcup victory..
Shocking...
swaziboy
1st September 2010, 21:49
Just for interest sake would it be possiblefor anyone to get a list of players who played that particular match imran khan is talking about that they won just to see the list of players that played that match. anyone?
insaftak
1st September 2010, 22:11
Just for interest sake would it be possiblefor anyone to get a list of players who played that particular match imran khan is talking about that they won just to see the list of players that played that match. anyone?
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65825.html
Ijaz Ahmad, Saleem Malik, Wasim Akram and Mushtaq Ahmad might be the guys imran khan is talking about.
cric_crazy
1st September 2010, 22:26
stop living in fantasy land, imran khan was just a match fixer like the rest.
difference here is that afridi has allready made his fortunes before and now wants to get on with it.
Absolutely correct.........thats why even now a days imran always have the soft corner for match fixers.........true about afridi as well......
Dare2Dream
1st September 2010, 23:32
the point is that imran earned that degree of authority and respect
it didn't just happen overnight
sadly afridi with his sporadic abufoon like batting and assosciated unsavoury antics will never be in a position to earn that right
younis khan was heading in the right direction that direction until he encountered turbulence...
Exactly, couldn't have said it better. You don't turn into Imran Khan overnight, you have to lead from the front for a log time, not cowardly quit here after a few games and cowardly throw away your wicket instead of fighting the long fight when the team is under pressure. Let's not start comparing Afridi, YK and others with Imran until they've accomplished something as a leader leading from the front for a few years at the least, not a few days or weeks here interspersed with cowardly surrender or losing command of the team.
siddharth
1st September 2010, 23:38
The difference is so huge that it is not even comparable.
siddharth
1st September 2010, 23:39
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65825.html
Ijaz Ahmad, Saleem Malik, Wasim Akram and Mushtaq Ahmad might be the guys imran khan is talking about.
Wasim fixed to take a hatrick:wasim
d0gers
1st September 2010, 23:54
I remember reading that Intikhab Alam bet the amount of the runners-up prize money on Pakistan winning the Australasia Cup final at Sharjah in 1994.
So, somewhat similar to what Imran did.
Would you consider this ethical? Why is it okay to bet in this circumstance, even if it is on your own team winning?
Rashid Latif has spoken out against this. Said he wasn't in support of Intikhab's decision when it happened because he considers it as simply betting and wanted no part of that culture.
Dare2Dream
2nd September 2010, 00:16
Wasim fixed to take a hatrick:wasim
Tailenders, shows nothing either way!
Dare2Dream
2nd September 2010, 00:17
I remember reading that Intikhab Alam bet the amount of the runners-up prize money on Pakistan winning the Australasia Cup final at Sharjah in 1994.
So, somewhat similar to what Imran did.
Would you consider this ethical? Why is it okay to bet in this circumstance, even if it is on your own team winning?
Rashid Latif has spoken out against this. Said he wasn't in support of Intikhab's decision when it happened because he considers it as simply betting and wanted no part of that culture.
I'm with Rashid Latif on this one!
JellyBro
2nd September 2010, 00:28
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
but Imran also had the credentials to say what he said and do what he did. Afridi is neither here nor there and that does create a big problem when you're trying to lay the smackdown on anyone...things backfire
Zaheer Abbas's Fan
2nd September 2010, 00:29
Wasim fixed to take a hatrick:wasim
once imran had warned them of jail (and who would doubt imran could do it then) and bet their match money, the fix was off, Imran had won.
deviously~fading~away
2nd September 2010, 00:49
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
Oh sit back down! Imran Khan loves Shahid Afridi! Imran even speaks to Afridi on a regular basis, more so than any other player in the team according to Mushtaq Ahmed.
Even when Afridi retired, Imran personally called Afridi.
Fact is no player will ever match to Imran Khan not even Wasim Akram! So stop picking on Afridi.
On the other hand get behind Afridi so he can help Pakistan pull off their greatest ODI series win by beating England
insaftak
2nd September 2010, 00:52
Oh sit back down! Imran Khan loves Shahid Afridi! Imran even speaks to Afridi on a regular basis, more so than any other player in the team according to Mushtaq Ahmed.
Even when Afridi retired, Imran personally called Afridi.
Fact is no player will ever match to Imran Khan not even Wasim Akram! So stop picking on Afridi.
On the other hand get behind Afridi so he can help Pakistan pull off their greatest ODI series win by beating England
Shahid khan Afridi is part of Tehrek Insaf if you want to know more about Afridi and Imran Khan connection.
waqar_ahmad
2nd September 2010, 00:53
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
insaftak, please, do not compare Imran khan with the current lot.
Imran was larger than life for a reason. He was the cricket board, the coach, the manager, the leader, the general, the spokesman. And then, he was a player.
He ran pakistan cricket al by himself, and 10 years after he left, the same players who he groomed represented pakistan.
TO me, Imran Khan was pakistan cricket
cricket_fever
2nd September 2010, 13:26
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/imran-khan-opportunity-from-disaster-for-a-former-cricket-hero-2067134.html
The difference between Imran Khan and Afridi. Afridi Runs away while Imran Khan confronts the players.
in imrans tym there was a better management and he more power and he had better ppl at the board
imran was the best captain we ever had
right now afridi is the best choice infact only........both had different personalities
IK was IK
Afridi is Afridi
however both tried to rid the team of corruption in their own ways
cricket_fever
2nd September 2010, 13:30
Younis khan didn't know his team was match fixing. Afridi on other hand came out and said he knew about match fixing.
he knew AND he alerted the nikamma :) board
insaftak
9th September 2010, 02:25
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Imran Claims it was Javed Miandad who told him about this incident.
Thank You Javed Miandad for being Honest and doing the right thing.
You could listen to the full interview here
http://insaf.pk/Media/Videos/tabid/62/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4579/Imran-Khan-with-Riz-Khan-on-Al-Jazera-on-Spot-Fixing.aspx
pinger
9th September 2010, 03:43
So Imran was betting on games he was involved in as well, by his own admission??? ROFL
Tapioca
9th September 2010, 04:28
This one is a well known story..
If I remember correctly, when Imran found out about it he consulted Miandad and Inti on what to do and Miandad was the one who suggested to bet their entire prize money on winning. It was a huge step to take. It basically shows either how confident Imran and Miandad were of winning or that they did not give two hoots about the money, but wanted to send a strong message to the team. I guess whatever they wanted to do worked and it was really a stroke of genius.
There is very little about it in Miandad's autob though :
Once during a limited overs tournament in Sharjah some time in the late 1980s, there were strong rumours that some of the Pakistan players were trying to throw a game. Imran was captain then and he and I discussed the rumours and Imran then took it up with the rest of the team. No one owned up of course and nothing came of it. That was the closest that the issue of match fixing was ever discussed during my active playing days for Pakistan.
It is a bit surprising because Miandad takes credit for everything good that happened during his time, and anything that went wrong is someone else's fault. Wonder how he could have forgot to mention something as smart as this.
Javelin
9th September 2010, 08:15
Imran had another advantage during his Test career. There were a number of close relatives, including Majid Khan and Javed Burkhi, who had senior positions within the PCB.
Thus it was not just his ability and personality but also family connections that ensured his position and power within the team.
FastBowler
9th September 2010, 10:15
I saw a bit of Imran khan in younis khan! *SIGH*
keep dreaming
Sufi Malang
9th September 2010, 12:13
Khan sab badly needs a hair cut in the video posted above :)
TAK
9th September 2010, 12:18
Imran had another advantage during his Test career. There were a number of close relatives, including Majid Khan and Javed Burkhi, who had senior positions within the PCB.
Thus it was not just his ability and personality but also family connections that ensured his position and power within the team.
from memory imran and majid had a major fallout after the former dropped the latter pretty early on his tenure as kaptaan
if javed burki was had a senior position it was in the days when pcb officials were very low key, seldom seen or heard
did imran have carte blanche in relation to player selection, i recall a lot og unease about a certaoin mansoor aktar beinga parchee player in the mid/late 80's
ajithrocks
9th September 2010, 12:42
The system now and then was different.. PCB is the real culprit.. Else why did it sweep the Quyaam report under the carpet? or what is the logic behind banning everyone and bringing back everyone with in a matter of few months.
Imran was best player of the team then, also led the team and above all had the support of PCB. Whereas Yunus or Afridi's case is different.. Yunus is not a great T20 player and Afridi came back in to test side after a long time. Their hold on the team will obviously be less
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