Major rabbi says non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews

[Liberty]

Major rabbi says non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews

A major Jewish religious figure in Israel has likened non-Jews to donkeys and beasts of burden, saying the main reason for their very existence is to serve Jews.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual mentor of the religious fundamentalist party, Shas, which represents Middle Eastern Jews, reportedly said during a Sabbath homily earlier this week that "the sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews." Yosef is considered a major religious leader in Israel who enjoys the allegiance of hundreds of thousands of followers.

Shas is a chief coalition partner in the current Israeli government,

Yosef, also a former Chief Rabbi of Israel, was quoted by the right-wing newspaper, the Jerusalem Post, as saying that the basic function of a goy, a derogatory word for a gentile, was to serve Jews.

"Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel," Yosef said in his weekly Saturday night sermon which was devoted to laws regarding actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on the Sabbath.

Yosef also reportedly said that the lives of non-Jews in Israel are preserved by God in order to prevent losses to Jews.

Yosef, widely considered a prominent Torah sage and authority on the interpretation of Talmud, a basic Jewish scripture, held a comparison between animals of burden and non-Jews.

"In Israel, death has no dominion over them…With gentiles, it will be like any person-They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one's donkey would die, they'd lose their money.

"This is his servant…That's why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."

Yosef further elucidated his ideas about the servitude of gentiles to Jews, asking "why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit like an effendi and eat."

"That is why gentiles were created."

The concept of gentiles being infra-human beings or quasi-animals is well-established in Orthodox Judaism.

For example, rabbis affiliated with the Chabad movement, a supremacist but influential Jewish sect, teach openly that at the spiritual level, non-Jews have the status of animals.

Abraham Kook, the religious mentor of the settler movement, was quoted as saying that the difference between a Jew and a gentile was greater and deeper than the difference between humans and animals.

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle."

Some of Kook's manifestly racist ideas are taught in the Talmudic college, Merkaz H'arav, in Jerusalem. The college is named after Kook.

In his book, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, the late Israeli writer and intellectual Israel Shahak argued that whenever Orthodox rabbis use the word "human," they normally didn't refer to all humans, but only to Jews, since non-Jews are not considered humans according to Halacha of Jewish law.


The Bible says that non-Jews living under Jewish rule must serve as "water carriers and wood hewers" for the master race.

In Joshua (9:27), we read " That day, Joshua made the Gibeonites woodcutters and water carriers for the community and for the altar of the Lord at the Place the Lord would choose. And that is what they are to this days."

Elsewhere in the Bible, Israelites are strongly urged to treat "strangers living in your midst" humanely "because you yourselves were strangers in Egypt."

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2010/10/18/major-rabbi-says-non-jews-are-donkeys-cr

Very Classy.

[Poison]

You stay classy Jew :ronburgundy

[Asif khan]

I'm guessing most of his views are based on the Talmud which does not have very nice things to say about Gentiles.

[Markhor]

:)) Another 'bash the Jews' thread.

There are extremists in our own religion who spout the same nonsense,as there are extremists in Christianity and Hinduism.

[Munda Pakistani]

:)) Another 'bash the Jews' thread.

There are extremists in our own religion who spout the same nonsense,as there are extremists in Christianity and Hinduism.

Please give an example, where an extremist Muslim, who commands hundreds of thousands of followers, says something akin to this.

Failing that, stop lying.

And how exactly is this a bash the Jews thread? Have you ever gone into a dubious "Pakistan army exopsed !!!' thread or a thread about a suicide bombing and said: " :)) Another 'bash the Muslims/Pakistan army' thread" ? If not, why?

[KingKhanWC]

He is not some fringe Rabbi but one is very respected by Israeli's in important positions.

This is the zionist aim, blame everybody else for which they do the best.

Not all Rabbis share this loonatics view.

[atif.raza]

Please give an example, where an extremist Muslim, who commands hundreds of thousands of followers, says something akin to this.

Failing that, stop lying.

And how exactly is this a bash the Jews thread? Have you ever gone into a dubious "Pakistan army exopsed !!!' thread or a thread about a suicide bombing and said: " :)) Another 'bash the Muslims/Pakistan army' thread" ? If not, why?

Wow. Which world do you live in. Just do a simple google search and you will see HUNDREDS of renowned Muslim Scholars who say similiar things for Jews and Christians. The extremists are in every religion, but there are more so in Islam than in any other religion. Watch some news someday!

[ShehryarK]

There are extremists in our own religion who spout the same nonsense,as there are extremists in Christianity and Hinduism.

True enough. Minor quibble though; this is no "fringe extremist".

This is the former Chief Rabbi of Israel - ie their senior most religious figure.

He is also the spiritual mentor to one of their key political parties, the Shas.
:))
Another 'bash the Jews' thread.
And really - there are NO "Bash the Jews Threads" here on PP - you need to remove your head from the gutter. There are far more threads here that are critical of Pakistan and other Muslim countries, than there are threads critical of Israel.

[Maula Jutt]

If you just look at some of the most powerful people on earth, you'd admit Jews are doing a very good job at proving, "Non-Jews were born only to serve us." :ibutt

[Desire]

so what??

[Faisalabadimunda]

Ignore the bloody fools.

[kingusama92]

Such an irresponsible comment.

Especially from someone who has renowned in the Jewish community. This comment won't win him or other Jewish individuals much sympathy from the world. It's the common angle of "you vs me" that tends to divide communities/nations and it will continue to do so until people start to realize we are all equal.

Putting aside his status - we have to concur that many individuals from all religions hold such views with their own people being "true human beings".

[Hail-Akram]

:))
There are extremists in our own religion who spout the same nonsense,as there are extremists in Christianity and Hinduism.

So true! For such people, religion is not about God. For them it is about power to control people !

[UmarAkmals-fan]

True enough. Minor quibble though; this is no "fringe extremist".

This is the former Chief Rabbi of Israel - Bie their senior most religious figure.

He is also the spiritual mentor to one of their key political parties, the Shas.

And really - there are NO "Bash the Jews Threads" here on PP - you need to remove your head from the gutter. There are far more threads here that are critical of Pakistan and other Muslim countries, than there are threads critical of Israel.

So true! For such people, religion is not about God. For them it is about power to control people !

i think ShehryarK has explained why its not a bash the jew thread and why its diffrent from ordenary religious extremism which exists in every religon ..theres a big diffrence bewtween osama bin ladens and shiv senas statmens then this guys because hes the Chief Rabbi of Israel - and osama and shiv sena are well known terriorists who hate anyone who dosent believe what they believe in

[Markhor]

Please give an example, where an extremist Muslim, who commands hundreds of thousands of followers, says something akin to this.


This is a classic example of burying your head in the sand.Have you heard of the ''Sacred Duty for Jihad'' ? You'll come across a lot of extremists using that phrase,which is basically an excuse to slaughter.

True enough. Minor quibble though; this is no "fringe extremist".

This is the former Chief Rabbi of Israel - ie their senior most religious figure.

He is also the spiritual mentor to one of their key political parties, the Shas.

And really - there are NO "Bash the Jews Threads" here on PP - you need to remove your head from the gutter. There are far more threads here that are critical of Pakistan and other Muslim countries, than there are threads critical of Israel.

This statement pales in comparison to the many extremist Mullahs calling for holy war on the non-Muslims.

He does seem like a far-right loon and yes,he may have some political clout.However,so do the Shiv Sena and look how they are viewed in the world.

People need to realise there are right-wing lunatics in every culture.What they say is NOT Gospel.

We have enough problems to deal with and stop reacting to such statements when we have plenty of similar people in our own backyard !

[Hail-Akram]

^^ I edited my previous post to put things in right context. What I meant was there are extremists in every religion and such people shouldn't be taken too seriously.

There will be people who tell you that you are racially inferior. But as long as you know that's BS, shouldn't affect you much. Any reaction to such statements gets them more publicity and they feel encouraged. So ignoring them is the best way to kill their propoganda.

[Markhor]

i think ShehryarK has explained why its not a bash the jew thread and why its diffrent from ordenary religious extremism which exists in every religon ..theres a big diffrence bewtween osama bin ladens and shiv senas statmens then this guys because hes the Chief Rabbi of Israel - and osama and shiv sena are well known terriorists who hate anyone who dosent believe what they believe in

It doesnt mean that other Jews will blindly support such a statement.He's a former Chief Rabbi and it seems like he wants to create some publicity for himself.


Yosef, also a former Chief Rabbi of Israel, was quoted by the right-wing newspaper, the Jerusalem Post

:)))

Its like the Sun reporting Nick Griffin or a famous Bishop making racist remarks.We have our equivalents,again do we take it seriously ? People should make their own moral judgements and not be so irrational to think that everyone in that religion share such hysterical views.

[Markhor]

^^ I edited my previous post to put things in right context. What I meant was there are extremists in every religion and such people shouldn't be taken too seriously.

There will be people who tell you that you are racially inferior. But as long as you know that's BS, shouldn't affect you much. Any reaction to such statements gets them more publicity and they feel encouraged. So ignoring them is the best way to kill their propoganda.

Absolutely.This statement is not going to going to win much sympathy or positivity in the Jewish communities.Its like having an Imam say such things,WE know its wrong,we can make a moral judgement on that.So can the Jews,they won't blindly accept such lunatic views.

[AZ]

this is nothing new, Judaism is a very discriminatory religion.

on a side note, is he the Ijaz Butt of Yahudis?

[UmarAkmals-fan]

^^ I edited my previous post to put things in right context. What I meant was there are extremists in every religion and such people shouldn't be taken too seriously.

There will be people who tell you that you are racially inferior. But as long as you know that's BS, shouldn't affect you much. Any reaction to such statements gets them more publicity and they feel encouraged. So ignoring them is the best way to kill their propoganda.

+1 good point ..cant disagree with that


It doesnt mean that other Jews will blindly support such a statement.He's a former Chief Rabbi and it seems like he wants to create some publicity for himself.




:)))

Its like the Sun reporting Nick Griffin or a famous Bishop making racist remarks.We have our equivalents,again do we take it seriously ? People should make their own moral judgements and not be so irrational to think that everyone in that religion share such hysterical views.

fair enought ..but what would u call the ex israeli president calling palestanins 2 legged animals?

[DeadlyVenom]

This is a classic example of burying your head in the sand.Have you heard of the ''Sacred Duty for Jihad'' ? You'll come across a lot of extremists using that phrase,which is basically an excuse to slaughter.



This statement pales in comparison to the many extremist Mullahs calling for holy war on the non-Muslims.

He does seem like a far-right loon and yes,he may have some political clout.However,so do the Shiv Sena and look how they are viewed in the world.

People need to realise there are right-wing lunatics in every culture.What they say is NOT Gospel.

We have enough problems to deal with and stop reacting to such statements when we have plenty of similar people in our own backyard !
Look you will find that most posters here condemn these kind of statements especially when they are made by Muslims. Just because Muslims also make stupid statements doesnt mean that we Muslims (who disagree with those statements) cant make comments on other issues.

[Markhor]

+1 good point ..cant disagree with that




fair enought ..but what would u call the ex israeli president calling palestanins 2 legged animals?

He's a right wing lunatic.Again,just because of an ex-politicians racist view doesnt mean all Jews will subscribe to that.

[Markhor]

Look you will find that most posters here condemn these kind of statements especially when they are made by Muslims. Just because Muslims also make stupid statements doesnt mean that we Muslims (who disagree with those statements) cant make comments on other issues.

You're missing the point.What I'm saying is that this constant tarring of the same brush is so typical.

A ex-politicians/Rabbi's racist view doesnt mean all Jews will subscribe to that.Yet every Jew in our society is some Yahoodi agent or whatever.We may disagree with someone,but to think thats a typical Jew is so hypocritical and racist !

Its freedom of speech,ok his view is racist and wrong but you cant silence them.Jews are allowed to have their own views,no matter how much you dislike them.

After all,we have extreme Jihadis,whilst being totally ignorant are also allowed to speak.Other religions feel the same anger and tend to generalize all Muslims too when a Jihadist says something similar.Yet we react stronger when its a Jew.

[Xohaib]

You're missing the point.What I'm saying is that this constant tarring of the same brush is so typical.

A ex-politicians/Rabbi's racist view doesnt mean all Jews will subscribe to that.Yet every Jew in our society is some Yahoodi agent or whatever.We may disagree with someone,but to think thats a typical Jew is so hypocritical and racist !

Its freedom of speech,ok his view is racist and wrong but you cant silence them.Jews are allowed to have their own views,no matter how much you dislike them.

After all,we have extreme Jihadis,whilst being totally ignorant are also allowed to speak.Other religions feel the same anger and tend to generalize all Muslims too when a Jihadist says something similar.Yet we react stronger when its a Jew.
Tmra damag khrb lagta hai mujhe,ye thread uske bare main hai toh usse he bash karenge.

[Jadz]

this is nothing new, Judaism is a very discriminatory religion.

on a side note, is he the Ijaz Butt of Yahudis?


With respect, please explain how and in what sense Judaism is discriminatory: some of its adherents and followers may well be. Judaism, the Religion is:

The Hebrew Bible - Tanakh - it is in three parts and is comprised of -

1) The Torah - the 5 Books of Moses (pbuh)
a) Genesis
b) Exodus
c) Leviticus
d) Numbers
e) Deuteronomy

2) Neviim - The Prophets

3) Ketuvim - Hagiographa (Greek for "Holy Writings)
These include: the Books of Psalms, Proverbs, Job, and so on.

No doubt the Hebrew Bible is not in its original form, having been changed and corrupted over the course of time. Nevertheless, I do not believe the Bible preaches discrimination against non-Jews. Quite the contrary.

The Talmud is equivalent to the Hadeeth - scholars, sages, rabbis and imams can say or claim or believe whatever they want: they do not own Religion: it is the actual Message which is of supreme importance.

Sometimes a Religion is misunderstood because of the actions of its followers. In order to better understand any Religion, we have to go back to the original source - ie., the Book upon which it is founded - and study it. This is more necessary now than ever before given the almost total corruption of Religion which has taken place: ie., its meaning and purpose.

Allahu 'Alam

[KingKhanWC]

The Talmud is equivalent to the Hadeeth - scholars, sages, rabbis and imams can say or claim or believe whatever they want: they do not own Religion: it is the actual Message which is of supreme importance.

Isn't the Talmud the opposite of the Hadeeth? The Hadeeth are based on the sayings or actions of the Prophet(pbuh) and (the authentic ones) also go with the Quran. The Talmud goes against the Torah?

The reason why some feel Judaism is discriminatory is due to the Jews being the 'chosen people of God'. Is this fair?

[waqar_ahmad]

:)) Another 'bash the Jews' thread.

There are extremists in our own religion who spout the same nonsense,as there are extremists in Christianity and Hinduism.

Had this been said by a muslim, it would have been all over the news.

And this thread would have been created by kashif77

[Munda Pakistani]

Had this been said by a muslim, it would have been all over the news.

And this thread would have been created by kashif77

This is another important point which demands reflection. Would those who like to label anyone who disagrees with the Murdoch media version of events as conspiracy theorists care to explain this duplicity (assuming they agree that the media coverage would have been wider had, say, a former grand mufti of Pakistan had said such a thing)?

[Markhor]

Had this been said by a muslim, it would have been all over the news.

And this thread would have been created by kashif77

:)) Very true !



Respect all religions,regardless of their views.The Quran mentions tolerance and patience,yet we like to lash out with the slightest provocation.

[Jadz]

Isn't the Talmud the opposite of the Hadeeth? The Hadeeth are based on the sayings or actions of the Prophet(pbuh) and (the authentic ones) also go with the Quran. The Talmud goes against the Torah?

The reason why some feel Judaism is discriminatory is due to the Jews being the 'chosen people of God'. Is this fair?


Many misconceptions exist about Judaism and Jews - just as there are many erroneous ideas about Islam and Muslims.

Moses (pbuh) is believed to have recieved both the Written Law, the Torah, as well as the Oral Law, as compiled and contained in the Talmud, on Mount Sinai. However, not all Jews accepted this Tradition: thus, the Pharisees adhered to both the Written and Oral Law, whilst the Sadducees rejected the Oral Law and followed only the Written Law. There were the same kind of tensions amongst the differing Jewish Sects as now prevails amongst many Muslims - most accepting the entirety of Hadeeth as Divinely Inspired utterances and actions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) whilst others reject this belief; some taking a middle path between these two opposing views.

Similar to Hadeeth, the Talmud was compiled centuries after the death of Moses, by scholars and scribes.

The concept of the "chosen ones" is also much misunderstood -

Surah 2 Al-Baqarah, Verse 47
O Children of Israel! Remember those blessings of Mine with which I graced you, and how I favoured you above all other people.

Surah 22 Al-Hajj, Verse 78
And strive hard in Allah's Cause as you ought to strive. HE has chosen you, and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship: it is the Religion of your Father Abraham. It is HE (Allah) Who has named you as Muslims both before and in this (Qur'an) that the Messenger (Muhammad) may be a witness before you and you be witnesses before mankind! So perform As-Salaat, give Zakaat and hold fast to Allah. HE is your Maula (Lord), what an Excellent Maula and what an Excellent Helper!

Allah SWT Appointed HIS Messengers to convey and preach HIS Message to humankind - the believers are chosen to do the same. It is as simple as that.

The reason the Jews were severely reprimanded and punished by Allah SWT is because they corrupted the purpose of the Revelations granted to them - they believed the Message belonged to them alone, excluding all other nations and races. This spiritual arrogance has been categorically condemned by Allah SWT in Al-Qur'an. Thus, the earlier 2 monotheistic communities having signally failed in the task assigned to them, Allah SWT chose the community of the Last Messenger to convey HIS Final Message to humankind. In this regard, we might bear in mind that many Muslims have assumed an arrogance which ill-suits their claims to faith - they also believe that they are Allah SWT's "chosen ones" and that heaven is reserved exclusively for them, all other nations and races being destined for hell.

The very fact that Muslim nations and communities are in states of fragmentation, shows that instead of following the path ordained for them by Allah SWT, they have imitated the ways and fallen into the same errors of the very people they are so quick to condemn - ie., the Jews.

Allahu 'Alam.

[rahulrulezz]

Most of the Islamic exteremists call for killing of kaafirs as a form of Jehad...atleast this Jew exteremists dont preach murdering non-Jews

[DeadlyVenom]

Most of the Islamic exteremists call for killing of kaafirs as a form of Jehad...atleast this Jew exteremists dont preach murdering non-Jews

You would have a point....if this man had not held a very high position in a racist country that systematically carries out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous population. Whats the best way to justify these actions....paint the oppressed as non-humans and servants. Look at the context and you will see it as a very dangerous statement.

[KingKhanWC]

Most of the Islamic exteremists call for killing of kaafirs as a form of Jehad...atleast this Jew exteremists dont preach murdering non-Jews

Very wrong there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1163508/You-fighting-religious-war-gentiles-What-rabbis-told-Israeli-soldiers-Gaza-war.html



Jadz, thanks for the reply.

[waqar_ahmad]

Most of the Islamic exteremists call for killing of kaafirs as a form of Jehad...atleast this Jew exteremists dont preach murdering non-Jews

Islamic extremists are not scholars. THis guy is an important, mainstream Rabi, who is from a political party.

And please, go and read up on Jihad so you know what it is, rather than relying on CNN and hindustan times to explain it to you

[Gabbar Singh]

this is nothing new, Judaism is a very discriminatory religion.

on a side note, is he the Ijaz Butt of Yahudis?

Which part of judaism is very discriminatory?

[AZ]

the selling point itself is quite disturbing: 'God's chosen people.'

[Markhor]

Very wrong there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1163508/You-fighting-religious-war-gentiles-What-rabbis-told-Israeli-soldiers-Gaza-war.html



Jadz, thanks for the reply.

The Daily Mail LOL !

[Wristy_Shuffler]

You're missing the point.What I'm saying is that this constant tarring of the same brush is so typical.

A ex-politicians/Rabbi's racist view doesnt mean all Jews will subscribe to that.Yet every Jew in our society is some Yahoodi agent or whatever.We may disagree with someone,but to think thats a typical Jew is so hypocritical and racist !

Its freedom of speech,ok his view is racist and wrong but you cant silence them.Jews are allowed to have their own views,no matter how much you dislike them.

After all,we have extreme Jihadis,whilst being totally ignorant are also allowed to speak.Other religions feel the same anger and tend to generalize all Muslims too when a Jihadist says something similar.Yet we react stronger when its a Jew.

Are you talking about a specific response to the OP? 'Cos from what I can tell there's not much generalisation on the part of any PP members or the general muslim population...just some kids maybe but that's all. This thread was created, I'm assuming, to discuss how true this statement is according to Judaism itself and how much of an influence it would have coming from such an well-known rabbi.

What I can tell from this story is that most Jews probably don't hold this view but those that do have radical views such as these often find themselves in powerful or at least influential positions.

[AZ]

The Daily Mail LOL !

why would the Daily Mail write a pro-Muslim article?

[Amir]

A ex-politicians/Rabbi's racist view doesnt mean all Jews will subscribe to that.Yet every Jew in our society is some Yahoodi agent or whatever.We may disagree with someone,but to think thats a typical Jew is so hypocritical and racist !

No one is saying all Jews subscribe to this. Its you who is annotating it to us. This isn't a bash thread. A former senior official said something and a PPer is just bringing to our attention.

[Markhor]

why would the Daily Mail write a pro-Muslim article?

:)) Why would the Daily Mail write any articles pro-anything ?
Owned by Rupert Murdoch...you can make your own conclusion on that.

[Markhor]

No one is saying all Jews subscribe to this. Its you who is annotating it to us. This isn't a bash thread. A former senior official said something and a PPer is just bringing to our attention.

Again,missing the point !

The point is that the majority of Muslims are anti-Jewish and cannot seem to accept that the same Muslim extremists who are in influential positions make the statements !

So lets stop hating on this guy and sort out our own house first.

At least this Jewish rabbi,as ''powerful'' he may be,though thats debatable as he isnt the Chief Rabbi anymore AND is only a ''spiritual mentor'',whatever that is,is not bombing temples,churches and mosques.

So basically,its just a statement.You can criticise the lunatic all you want but we have enough problems closer to home so instead of lambasting flotillas and statements etc,lets work on our own faults for once,then make judgements on other faiths and their views.

Its freedom of speech,you might disagree with it but the Rabbi has every right to make a statement just as a Jihadi has a right to make equally unjust statements.

Which ones the lesser of two evils and which one is always criticised much more harshly,especially in the Muslim communities ? The violent Jihadis or some right-wing lunatic of a Rabbi ?

Take your pick.

[AZ]

:)) Why would the Daily Mail write any articles pro-anything ?
Owned by Rupert Murdoch...you can make your own conclusion on that.

IIRC Rupert Murdoch owns Fox News as well, and you can see exactly what kind of agenda they promote.

[Markhor]

Are you talking about a specific response to the OP? 'Cos from what I can tell there's not much generalisation on the part of any PP members or the general muslim population...just some kids maybe but that's all. This thread was created, I'm assuming, to discuss how true this statement is according to Judaism itself and how much of an influence it would have coming from such an well-known rabbi.

What I can tell from this story is that most Jews probably don't hold this view but those that do have radical views such as these often find themselves in powerful or at least influential positions.

My response is in my previous post.Thanks for a rational reply though !

[ShehryarK]

We have some real Einsteins here.

Murdoch does not own the Daily Mail, never has, and the newspaper is probably the biggest thorn in NewsCorp's flesh!!

Daily Mail is owned by Viscount Rothermere, but the driving force behind it for more than a decade has been Paul Dacre, a journalistic genius and the most powerful media figure in the UK.

[Markhor]

We have some real Einsteins here.

Murdoch does not own the Daily Mail, never has, and the newspaper is probably the biggest thorn in NewsCorp's flesh!!

Daily Mail is owned by Viscount Rothermere, but the driving force behind it for more than a decade has been Paul Dacre, a journalistic genius and the most powerful media figure in the UK.

You raise a valid point,but even taking this into account,it doesnt change the Daily Mail's allegiances.

Lord Rothermere was a very close friend and supporter of both Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler,which influenced the Mail's political stance towards them in the 30s.

[ShehryarK]

Lord Rothermere was a very close friend and supporter of both Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler,which influenced the Mail's political stance towards them in the 30s.
That was the 1st Viscount, ie the great-grand father of the current (4th) Viscount!!!

Very different generation, different era, different approach.

[AZ]

Markhor whatever your point was with the Murdoch (which I should have bothered to check) reference, it has failed badly.

please say exactly what you meant.

[Markhor]

Whoops.Thanks for clearing it up SK.

AZ

Both the Daily Mail and News International do not have Pro-Muslim allegiances.They are fairly sensationalist of Muslims.

However,Murdoch is of Jewish faith,so you can interpret that in any way.

The media are not particularly balanced with Muslim and Jewish statements,so this article should probably be taken with a pinch of salt.

[KingKhanWC]

The Daily Mail LOL !

lol. The link was aimed at the individual.

How about this Israeli paper?

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-rabbinate-publication-during-gaza-war-we-will-show-no-mercy-on-the-cruel-1.268849

[161]

Had this been said by a muslim, it would have been all over the news.

And this thread would have been created by kashif77

lol @ your obsession with me .. it's a bit embarrassing .. no ?

Anyways this rabbi is no doubt an idiot and many Jews subscribe to his views .. there are loonies in every religion.

[Markhor]

lol. The link was aimed at the individual.

How about this Israeli paper?

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-rabbinate-publication-during-gaza-war-we-will-show-no-mercy-on-the-cruel-1.268849

Nice article,surprising too.Never see Israeli Defence people talking to the press,usually like to keep things under wraps.

Israelis,or the hate-mongering ones dont deserve to be called Jews.

Muslims and Jews have a lot more in common than we think !

Both hate a part of our society that preaches hate and intolerance.Both feel insecure in today's world.