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b98154
11th November 2010, 07:48
Hello Everyone! First of all, I am a newbie to pakpassion :)
I am interested in buying one of the following English Willow Bats:
MRF Genius Limited Edition - $160
Malik Bubber Sher - $189
Gray Nicolls Xiphos Pro Performance - $125
Kookaburra Kahuna Biggest - $170
Kookaburra Big Kahuna - $150
RbK Dhoni 183 Exclusive English Willow Cricket Bat - $170
Adidas Master Blaster League - $140
CA Plus 12000 - $190
Adidas Incurza Elite - $160
Adidas Libro Elite - $140
I think CA Plus 12000, Adidas Incurza Elite, Adidas Libro Elite, and Gray Nicolls Xiphos Pro Performance are fake. However, I might be wrong. Please check them out here: http://www.cricketfains.com/cricketfains/
(http://www.cricketfains.com/cricketfains/)
If there are any other good bats that are within my budget (around 180 USD), please inform me about them. Thanks :D

askmoi
11th November 2010, 14:29
hi b98154, having looked at the site, i am really not sure if you should buy from there. do check if someone on the forum has any experience dealing with them. however my advice to u is to be very cautious of any offers that look too good to be true.

Cover Drive
11th November 2010, 18:58
I agree with askmoi Bhai, he has pretty much said everything and I would tell you to avoid dealing with those people as they don't look legit to me.

Where are you located and what sort of bat do you have?

Cover Drive
11th November 2010, 18:59
B98154, check out the following website (Sailkot Shop) and they have bats at a very good price and have very good bats;

http://www.sialkotshop.com/

b98154
12th November 2010, 09:03
Thanks for the quick and extremely informative replies :)
I will NOT buy from cricketfans.com
MRF Genius Limited Edition (http://www.amazon.com/MRF-Genius-Limited-English-Cricket/dp/B0000YGL5O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1289536096&sr=8-1) is available on Amazon for a really good price ($160).
Amazon also caries Malik Bubber Sher (http://www.amazon.com/Malik-Bubber-Cricket-English-Willow/dp/B0035VDQNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1289536282&sr=1-1)for 195 USD (including shipping):
Which one should I choose? My budget, again, is around $180 (cheaper is better :D).

b98154
12th November 2010, 09:06
Thanks for that awesome website Cover Drive :) However, I don't want to spend too much on shipping.

b98154
12th November 2010, 09:31
One seller is offering me Reebok Dhoni 183 bat for $169 (+ $4.49 for shipping). He claims that the bat is made up of Grade 1+ English Willow. The bat comes with free Reebok Batting gloves and pads. I have attached all the pictures that he sent me. Could you guys make sure if the bat is made of Grade 1+ English Willow?

In addition, I asked the guy who is selling MRF Genius XLE for $160 if the bat is genuine. He told me that he will allow me to return the product for full refund if I think the bat is not authentic. How is MRF Genius XLE compared to Malik Bubber sher and Kookaburra Kahuna Biggest?

b98154
12th November 2010, 09:37
@ CD: I am located in California, United States. I moved from Jalandhar, Punjab, India around 2 years ago. Right now, I am Bat-less (*sad-face*). I haven't played Cricket in a while, but have recently found Indian and Pakistani friends who love Cricket and are willing to play at anytime :D. I am looking for a good English Willow Cricket Bat that suits my $180 budget.

Cover Drive
12th November 2010, 15:22
I am sure if you talk to Bhasrat Bhai at Sailkot Shop you might get a better rate and he can sort out a deal for you.

Just another thing that it is not important to get what you see. I have seen people doing fraud in this as well. I mean in pictures you will see something really good but when You recieve the item it turn out to be different that the pictured one.

That is also one of the reason why I would say buy from a reliable person such as Bhasarat Bhai

Cover Drive
12th November 2010, 23:21
Thanks for that awesome website Cover Drive :) However, I don't want to spend too much on shipping.

If you have a look at AS V3 then you will notice that it perfectly falls in your budget (just $5 bucks extra).

b98154
12th November 2010, 23:43
Thanks CD! I will definitely consider AS V3. I am wondering if MRF Genius XLE is a good bat; the seller is offering me great return policy. If the bat is good, I can buy it post pictures here to make sure it's genuine. Do you recommend MRF Genius XLE over Malik Bubber Sher?

b98154
14th November 2010, 08:16
I still need help choosing between MRF Genius XLE and MB Malik Bubber Sher. Please help!

Cover Drive
14th November 2010, 09:10
I missed your post so I wasn't able to reply earlier. I haven't seen MRF in real life so I am not sure but if you post pictures of that MRF here then I can tell you how it looks and everything.

I have Bubber Sher and many other forum member have it and they absolutely love it.

So I will be looking forward to MRF pictures

b98154
14th November 2010, 11:21
Finally found some good pictures online! Here they are:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/ssmrf.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/IMGP0152.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/IMGP0153.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/IMGP0181.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/IMGP0155.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/el_presedente/Cricket/IMGP0168.jpg

Cover Drive
14th November 2010, 15:48
Looks good but personally I would say go for Bubber Shef. The reason why I am recommending you Bubber Sher over MRF is that I have never used any MRF and don't know how these bats are because I haven't seen any review of MRF either. Whereas on the other hand I have Bubber Sher and many people on this forums and all of them really like it.

Where are you considering buying Bubber Sher and MRF from?

b98154
14th November 2010, 22:12
Thanks for the advice man :)

b98154
14th November 2010, 22:17
One more thing; I am not sure if it is true, but I was told that the bats with thicker edges don't last very long and have bad ping. Is that true?

Cover Drive
14th November 2010, 22:30
One more thing; I am not sure if it is true, but I was told that the bats with thicker edges don't last very long and have bad ping. Is that true?

Huh? To me it doesn't sound true at all!

You might have heard it wrong and it should have been that bats with soft pressing don't last very long and lose its ping after some time.

If you have any more questions please let me know :).

b98154
15th November 2010, 00:12
Oh thanks. I think you are right, but someone told me that bat with thick edges are not pressed well. I trust you more than that person because that person was trying to sell me Indian bats and forced me to believe that Indian Bats (that he was selling) don't have thick edges due to their better compression and, hence, better ping. Thanks for your help. To tell you the truth, my budget has been lowered a bit because I have spent some of the money in COD: Black Ops :D Now, my budget$160 and MRF Genius XLE is exactly that price), but I am still afraid to buy that bat because no one has ever reviewed it. I found some great bats on onlinestockist.com! How are Kookaburra Ice Sub10, Kookaburra Mayhem, Kookaburra Biggest Kahuna, and Adidas Incurza Pro bats? How good are Reebok bats? Between, my family has gone to Jalandhar (Sports City of India). Do you think I will be better off buying a bat from India?

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 01:28
Jalandar is basically home of cricket equipments and most of equipments are made there.

Your most cheapest and convenient option would be to ask your parents to bring a bat for you from Jalandar. Make sure they go to a properly genuine store which sells original bat an you would get a very good bat (hopefully).

It is always risk buying online because you are not aware of the product and don't have guarantee of anything. Golden rule is to go to a store yourself and see the bat which feels good in your hand as the one you see in pictures might not feel good in your hands. It is not necessary my preference would be same as yours.

OS sells Indian version of Kookaburra.

b98154
15th November 2010, 01:53
Thanks! I will definitely tell my parents to bring a bat for me form Jalandhar. My dad knows many people in Jalandhar; I am sure he will, somehow, find a good bat for me. Still, I am gonna buy a bat online (yeah, 2 bats :D). So, I won't buy a kookaburra from online stockist. Do you know if they have any good bat that is less than $220? I think, I will have to increase my budget to get a good bat. What about SF Sapphire and their Custom Limited Edition Grade 1+ English Willow bats? Between, I talked to my dad recently, and he told me that he can find SS Yuvi T-20 English Willow bat for only 1300 Indian Rupees (which is only $30!). I think the bat that he is talking about is fake. Thanks for your great help man; I really appreciate it :)

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 03:01
No worries mate ask as much you wish.

The price of SS Yuvi sounds too good to be true. In India and Pakistan you can not get a English Willow bat for Rs. 1300 as this is impossible for them to sell a English Willow bat at this price, regardless what grade it is. Even if it is a English Willow then it is most likely going to be least graded willow.

Since your parents are from Jalandar I would recommend them to go to the factory themselves and pick up the bats from there as there are minimal chances of getting ripped off in factory between original and fake bats.

Again I wouldn't suggest you buying a bat from OS or any online retailer if your parents are in Jalandar so tell them to bring you two bats of different brands. Since your budget is restricted so buying bats from India and your parents bringing along themselves would be cheapest option as you will save postage cost.

I am not sure about OS bats as I have never purchased one from Ajit nor I have used one.

From Indian bats the only brand I can recommend is BAS as I find there bats one of the best Indian bats. Again this could be my opinion only. I have seen SS, SG as well but in my eyes they weren't as good as BAS.

b98154
15th November 2010, 03:29
I was considering buying Bubber Sher from Amazon due to its decent price (including shipping). However, I don't think I will buy that bat because the seller never answered any question I asked. Moreover, Sialkot Shops has Bubber Sher for a very good price but shipping prices are holding me back. I was also interested in Ihsan Inferno 950, but $40 shipping is a little too much for me :(

b98154
15th November 2010, 03:32
Thanks a lot! I will surely buy from India :)

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 03:49
Personally I would never ever trust anyone on EBay or Amazon. I haveseen many people (some very knowledable) getting ripped off on EBay so I would never recommend that.

I recommend what I have used or what I have seen. My club mate bought two bats from Sailkot Shop an they got drilled in Customs and due to Sailkot Shop service he got full refund that's why I recommend Sailkot Shop as there service is exceptional. Shipping might be steep but that is not really sellers fault. Sailkot Shop uses courier (DHL and FeDex), hence, shipping looks a bit steep. To be honest, Sailkot Shop prices are pretty much what you would pay in Pakistan when buying a bat. Inferno 950 is a great bat. One of my friend had it and it was brilliant stick. I really liked it as it's pickup was very good along it's middle position.

Shipping was one of the reason why I told you to buy a bat from India and tell your parents to bring it along themselves.

As you earlier stated your dad know few people in Jalandar so if your dad knows batmaker directly then you can land yourself a beauty. I happen to got in touch with MB Malik owner/bat manufacturer and I would say I got lucky and got very good bats as I got a oversized cleft, big profile. Basically I told the batmaker that I want bat according to Afridi's specification and I got what I asked for. If you are interested in review then here it is;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=109988

b98154
15th November 2010, 04:05
Thanks! I have already checked the review out. I really appreciate your help man; can't express in words :D
The only thing is that my dad does not know a lot about Cricket Bats; he will not be able to notice the quality of the English Willow. However, I am pretty sure that some of his buddies will help him. Again, thanks for your help. Love this website :inzi

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 04:17
Lol no worries mate.

As I earlier said if your dad goes to a factory then there are very minimal chances of him getting ripped off. For example, if he goes to BAS factory in Jalandar then it is very unlikely to get a fake BAS bat. However, chances are he might pickup up a low quality (let's say G3) but it doesn't mean he will be ripped off when it comes to money. I am not sure about pricing of bats in India but I would assume that a G1 bat would atleast cost around Rs. 3500. I believe this figure is minimum for a Grade 1 bat in India. It is just a hypothesis as I have never been to Jalandar nor I am aware of prices in India so I am sorry for that :(

Just explain him grains concept so he would have slight knowledge and chances of getting good bat can increase :).

If you don't mind me asking can you tell me when will he be coming back to Cali?

b98154
15th November 2010, 05:55
Yes, he will be coming back to California. I recently called a famous shop in India. The shopkeeper told me that he has an English Willow (G2) bat for Rs.3200. He wants to charge me Rs. 8500 for a Grade 1 English Willow Bat, which is around 190 USD :( I think I will call BAS factory today.

b98154
15th November 2010, 05:56
Oh sorry, I forgot to answer your question :P
My dad will be coming to California in early December.

Knightrider
15th November 2010, 06:13
Oh thanks. I think you are right, but someone told me that bat with thick edges are not pressed well. I trust you more than that person because that person was trying to sell me Indian bats and forced me to believe that Indian Bats (that he was selling) don't have thick edges due to their better compression and, hence, better ping. Thanks for your help. To tell you the truth, my budget has been lowered a bit because I have spent some of the money in COD: Black Ops :D Now, my budget$160 and MRF Genius XLE is exactly that price), but I am still afraid to buy that bat because no one has ever reviewed it. I found some great bats on onlinestockist.com! How are Kookaburra Ice Sub10, Kookaburra Mayhem, Kookaburra Biggest Kahuna, and Adidas Incurza Pro bats? How good are Reebok bats? Between, my family has gone to Jalandhar (Sports City of India). Do you think I will be better off buying a bat from India?
This is true

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 06:18
When you call in India don't tell them that you are calling from States because when they find out that you are calling from abroad then they hike the prices themselves.

Which G1 bat was quoted around $190?

When you call BAS ask them about BAS Bow 20/20 Limited Edition and BAS Shadow. Both are G1 and are superb bats.

Knightrider
15th November 2010, 06:19
b98154 bro I had a MRF Cameo bat it was only grade 3/4 but was agood bat for its price. Balance was very good, it had a light pick & ping was pretty good at start and it improved further when I used it few times.

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 06:19
This is true

How is that true?

SalmanK
15th November 2010, 08:28
I would recommend going for an AS bat. I got an AS V10 factory direct for $160, incl shipping to US. Bat quality was superb! V3 would be a little cheaper, but a slightly lower grade willow as well.

Contact their director Waqas Khalid (waqas@assports.com). He will hook you up ...

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 08:41
I agree with SalmanK Bhai. V10 is a very good bat as I told you earlier. There is not much of a difference in V10 and V3 willow quality. It is pretty much the same. I mean it's not a major factor which should be considered nor it affects the performance by a large margin.

AS V3 (and V10) are best Asian bat for it's value and you can't go wrong with it.

b98154
15th November 2010, 08:51
Thanks a lot Salman Bhai! I love AS V10, but it was out of my budget. However, if it is possible for me to get the genuine version of that bat for only 160 US dollars, I will be a LOT more than happy. Again, I can't express in words how much I love this website. Thanks a lot everyone! I will definitely talk to Waqas Khalid :)

b98154
15th November 2010, 08:52
I almost ordered MRF Genius XLE for $160. I am sure, I will get AS v10 now. I hope it is a lot better than MRF :D

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 09:02
You can not get fake bat directly shipped from AS. Do email Waqas, he is a top bloke and tell him your specification and he will give you the best piece :).

b98154
15th November 2010, 09:04
I would recommend going for an AS bat. I got an AS V10 factory direct for $160, incl shipping to US. Bat quality was superb! V3 would be a little cheaper, but a slightly lower grade willow as well.

Contact their director Waqas Khalid (waqas@assports.com). He will hook you up ...

Salmaan bhai, it will be very helpful to see some pictures of your bat.

b98154
15th November 2010, 09:05
You can not get fake bat directly shipped from AS. Do email Waqas, he is a top bloke and tell him your specification and he will give you the best piece :).

Yeah, I am sure that I won't get a fake bat direct from AS Sports factory :D

b98154
15th November 2010, 09:38
I have heard that Pakistani Bats are usually air-dried, hence they won't last long. Is that true? I really want my bat to last a long time!

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 09:45
All bats are air dried. Its not just Pakistani bats which are air dried so indent find anything surprising in this. So don't worry about air drying concept.

Just get a bat with 8-11 grains oil it and knock it. After that make sure you regular maintain it then it shall last you for very long.

At the end it is just a piece of wood and it is natural. Everything in this world have certain life and after period of time it does die be it South Africian, Australian, English, Pakistani bats etc.

Some people have been playing cricket for very long and they still have there first bats which still play very well. Ask ca_gold Bhai about it's CA Gold and ask him how long it lasted him.

b98154
15th November 2010, 10:04
Thanks bhai-jaan! Man, you know a lot about Cricket bats :P I will post some pictures of the bat once I receive it. I haven't placed any order yet, but will place it when Khalid bhai offers me a good price; he hasn't replied yet, but I am sure he will make my dream come true :D
Haha, I have never researched and spent this much time before buying a Cricket Bat; I am sure this will be my best Cricket Bat purchase ever :D

b98154
15th November 2010, 10:19
All bats are air dried. Its not just Pakistani bats which are air dried so indent find anything surprising in this. So don't worry about air drying concept.

Just get a bat with 8-11 grains oil it and knock it. After that make sure you regular maintain it then it shall last you for very long.

At the end it is just a piece of wood and it is natural. Everything in this world have certain life and after period of time it does die be it South Africian, Australian, English, Pakistani bats etc.

Some people have been playing cricket for very long and they still have there first bats which still play very well. Ask ca_gold Bhai about it's CA Gold and ask him how long it lasted him.

I actually meant Pakistani bats are usually OVER air-dried. Sorry for the typo. Will that affect anything?

b98154
15th November 2010, 11:30
CD, Khalid Bhai is offering me the bat for $170. I asked him if $160 is okay; shipping is included. Do you think it is a good price?

b98154
15th November 2010, 12:04
Between, how thick are the edges of AS V10? And, is 2.10 lbs bat any heavy, considering I am an average person (5'6" tall and 135lbs)?

b98154
15th November 2010, 12:14
And, is oval handle better than round? or it doesn't matter? I am sorry if I am asking too much, but I am too into bats now. I am in love with Cricket as much as I am in love with Computer Hardware. haha

b98154
15th November 2010, 13:51
I have also been in contact with Mako Sports. The seller is really cool, and is offering me Ihsan Inferno 950 for 15500 Pakistani Rupees. Is Ihsan 950 better than AS V10, or V10 is a better deal for $160. Between, he told me that he could get AS V10 for less than $150. Should I trust him? I am being bamboozled by too many options :(

Cover Drive
15th November 2010, 20:12
Thanks bhai-jaan! Man, you know a lot about Cricket bats :P I will post some pictures of the bat once I receive it. I haven't placed any order yet, but will place it when Khalid bhai offers me a good price; he hasn't replied yet, but I am sure he will make my dream come true :D
Haha, I have never researched and spent this much time before buying a Cricket Bat; I am sure this will be my best Cricket Bat purchase ever :D

Research before buying anything is always good and chances of getting a good item increase significantly.


I actually meant Pakistani bats are usually OVER air-dried. Sorry for the typo. Will that affect anything?

To be honest, many people seem to have classified all Pakistani bats as very over dried although I don't think they are very dried. I mean if you come across a English bat with big profile along thick edges then people will say the bat maker was skilled and this was obtained due to his good skills with bat making and over drying concept will not be in consideration. On the other hand if any Asian bats get thick edges or big profile then it will be classified as "over dried". So it is kinda opinion of people.

If you get edges around 50 mm or more in a 2.6/2.7 then it could be over dried but if you manage to get edges around 35 mm for 2.7ish then it is fine.

Usually very over dried bats get brittle after period of time.


CD, Khalid Bhai is offering me the bat for $170. I asked him if $160 is okay; shipping is included. Do you think it is a good price?

Honestly, I don't think paying extra $10 would make much of a difference. $170 or $160 both are quite good price.


Between, how thick are the edges of AS V10? And, is 2.10 lbs bat any heavy, considering I am an average person (5'6" tall and 135lbs)?

Edges size depends on the willow. As I said earlier there are different types of willow which are being used. Some are over dried in which you will get huge edges in very less weight and most of them are well moisture.

Hm I would say go for something around 2.8 lbs as 2.10 lbs might be a bit heavy for you.


And, is oval handle better than round? or it doesn't matter? I am sorry if I am asking too much, but I am too into bats now. I am in love with Cricket as much as I am in love with Computer Hardware. haha

lol no worries mate. Ask as many questions you wish to ask and have. Forums are made for discussion and this doesn't differ :).

Actually it is preference. With oval handle you have better control compare to round handle. With oval handles if you hit on the edges then the bat will not wobble in your hands whereas with round handle it does somewhat wobbles. So it is basically preference of each person as some people don't like it and some like it.

Many Asian bats don't come in oval so ask Khalid if it is possible to get a oval handle (if you wish to get an oval handle bat).



I have also been in contact with Mako Sports. The seller is really cool, and is offering me Ihsan Inferno 950 for 15500 Pakistani Rupees. Is Ihsan 950 better than AS V10, or V10 is a better deal for $160. Between, he told me that he could get AS V10 for less than $150. Should I trust him? I am being bamboozled by too many options :(

Can you please show me Mako Sport's website so I can have a look at there bats. Once I have a look at it then I'll get back to you.

Hope it helps.

b98154
16th November 2010, 04:02
Can you please show me Mako Sport's website so I can have a look at there bats. Once I have a look at it then I'll get back to you.

Hope it helps.

Thanks! I found Mako Sports at alibaba.com:
Click Here (http://www.alibaba.com/productshowimg/pk108925144-111694108-0/IHSAN_INFERNO_950_ENGLISH_WILLOW_BATS.html)
I was chatting online with Adam Ahmed (Seller at Mako Sports, located in Islamabad, Pakistan), and he told me that his bats are genuine. "Qasam Se," he said.

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 04:56
I have never dealt with anyone on Alibaba so I am not sure if it is right place to get a bat from. Having said that I would never take risk on Alibaba. Instead I'll just go ahead with options I trust (Waqas or Sailkot Shop)

b98154
16th November 2010, 06:05
I have never dealt with anyone on Alibaba so I am not sure if it is right place to get a bat from. Having said that I would never take risk on Alibaba. Instead I'll just go ahead with options I trust (Waqas or Sailkot Shop)

Actually Waqas Khalid is also a member of Alibaba. Alibaba is just a source of hundreds of business people who trade stuff from one country to another. Adam Ahmed is just a business man who trades his stuff over Alibaba, just like Waqas Khalid. I am not sure if his stuff is genuine though. But, I have to say his sweet talk in Urdu and Punjabi almost forced me to buy from him. Who knows what's the truth? LOL. So I am gonna' order the bat from Khalid bhai. I actually talked to the Ihsan factory, and they told me that Ihsan Inferno 950 costs $268 (including shipping charges). I haven't heard from Waqas Bhai yet. I confirmed the order though.

b98154
16th November 2010, 06:06
This is Waqas Khalid's Alibaba page:
Click Here (http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/110591740/A_S_English_Willow_Cricket_Bat.html)

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 06:26
Actually Waqas Khalid is also a member of Alibaba. Alibaba is just a source of hundreds of business people who trade stuff from one country to another. Adam Ahmed is just a business man who trades his stuff over Alibaba, just like Waqas Khalid. I am not sure if his stuff is genuine though. But, I have to say his sweet talk in Urdu and Punjabi almost forced me to buy from him. Who knows what's the truth? LOL. So I am gonna' order the bat from Khalid bhai. I actually talked to the Ihsan factory, and they told me that Ihsan Inferno 950 costs $268 (including shipping charges). I haven't heard from Waqas Bhai yet. I confirmed the order though.

Ah okay, thanks for telling me about Alibaba. I was never aware of it.

The thing is that I am not sure who Adam is so I am not sure if his stuff will be genuine or not. I mean if you buy and later figure out it is fake then you will lose your money. So it is better safe than sorry.

Bhai, I am not on commission base or anything. So for me if you buy from AliBaba or Waqas doesn't matter to me. But I don't want anyone on this forum or whoever ask me for suggestion to get into a scam.

Here is fellow PPer (Z@!N Bhai's V10 pictures and Sherry Bhai's V10 pictures);

Sherry Bhai's (post 49);

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=110004

Z@!N Bhai's (post 98);

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=109954&page=2

(Just incase if you have missed it)

b98154
16th November 2010, 06:54
Bhai, I am not on commission base or anything. So for me if you buy from AliBaba or Waqas doesn't matter to me. But I don't want anyone on this forum or whoever ask me for suggestion to get into a scam.

Bhai, I trust you. I am more than 100% sure that you are not getting anyone into scam. I apologize if you felt that I was thinking that way. I am buying from Waqas Khalid. He, actually, is on Alibaba. That's where I got his phone no. from. I am waiting for Khalid Bhai's reply. By the way, if I order 2.8 lbs bat, will it be a little thinner (or "weaker" in a sense) than 2.10 lbs bat?

b98154
16th November 2010, 06:56
These comments by Amritpal Singh from Jalandhar now in USA about sialkot shop.

Yes, I am sure that Sialkotshop.com is legit. However, I am going to get the bat from Waqas Bhai. I trust them both. Thanks for the recommendation bhai :)

b98154
16th November 2010, 07:01
By the way, the amazon guy finally told me the truth. He told me that he sells open-box items. He told me that the MRF Genius XLE bat has some blemishes, although nothing that will affect the performance of the bat. He also told me that the bat doesn't come with any padded cover because it, again, is an open-box product. I am glad that I came to know about Waqas bhai. Thank You everyone! I will definitely post some pictures here once I get the bat :)

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 07:19
Bhai, I trust you. I am more than 100% sure that you are not getting anyone into scam. I apologize if you felt that I was thinking that way. I am buying from Waqas Khalid. He, actually, is on Alibaba. That's where I got his phone no. from. I am waiting for Khalid Bhai's reply. By the way, if I order 2.8 lbs bat, will it be a little thinner (or "weaker" in a sense) than 2.10 lbs bat?

Uhmm not really. When Viv Richard and those players played there bats weighed around 2.4-2.8 and they would have a lot less wood on them compare to the ones today so I don't really think the bat will be weak in any sense.

If you happen to land a good cleft then you can get good amount of mass for a low weight.


By the way, the amazon guy finally told me the truth. He told me that he sells open-box items. He told me that the MRF Genius XLE bat has some blemishes, although nothing that will affect the performance of the bat. He also told me that the bat doesn't come with any padded cover because it, again, is an open-box product. I am glad that I came to know about Waqas bhai. Thank You everyone! I will definitely post some pictures here once I get the bat :)

Blemishes don't affect the bat performance in any sense. When it comes to bats I really don't trust Ebay or Amazon (unless I don't see the bat myself) because some people label it as 1000% genuine but the bat is fake. Sometimes you can tell by the stickers and sometimes you can tell by the willow quality.

Waqas Bhai, might take time to response as he is in Sailkot plus Eid is approaching so he might be a bit busy and time difference make us suffer more :(.

b98154
16th November 2010, 07:48
By the way, if I order 2.8 lbs bat, will it be a little thinner (or "weaker" in a sense) than 2.10 lbs bat? I have bought many bats when I was in India, but never even payed that much attention to bat specs. So I don't know 2.8lbs bat will be too light. From mathematical point of view, I don't think that 0.2 lbs would make any difference. Do you think that it will? If so, I will just order 2.9 or 2.8 lbs bat :D

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 07:54
By the way, if I order 2.8 lbs bat, will it be a little thinner (or "weaker" in a sense) than 2.10 lbs bat? I have bought many bats when I was in India, but never even payed that much attention to bat specs. So I don't know 2.8lbs bat will be too light. From mathematical point of view, I don't think that 0.2 lbs would make any difference. Do you think that it will? If so, I will just order 2.9 or 2.8 lbs bat :D
It won't be weaker in any sense, its just that 2.8 lbs one will have less wood on it compare to 2.10 lbs one.

The figure looks small but actually I would say it matters. If you wish to get a 2.9 or 2.10 then go for it and don't worry about it. Just tell Waqas Bhai that you need a 2.9/2.10 (or whatever weight you wish to get) with a light pickup. By having a light pickup that same bat 2.9/2.10 would feel tad lighter in your hands.

Hope it made sense.

SalmanK
16th November 2010, 08:14
Thanks a lot Salman Bhai! I love AS V10, but it was out of my budget. However, if it is possible for me to get the genuine version of that bat for only 160 US dollars, I will be a LOT more than happy. Again, I can't express in words how much I love this website. Thanks a lot everyone! I will definitely talk to Waqas Khalid :)
I will post pics of my V10 tomorrow. The one I got has a LOT of grains (14-15), bat was lighter than what I had asked for (which I didn't mind) but the blade was bone dry. It's not a big deal though, nothing 3-4 coats of oil can't fix. I won't be using it until next summer, so there's plenty of time to prep it... Also I don't think AS offers oval handles. Oval handles help prevent the bat from turning in your hands, especially when you don't middle the ball.
Btw, since you are only 5'6" 135 lbs, I would recommend you go for a light bat, 2lb 6-8 oz. It's easier to adjust to a lighter bat than to a heavier one.

Silencer
16th November 2010, 08:26
I will post pics of my V10 tomorrow. The one I got has a LOT of grains (14-15), bat was lighter than what I had asked for (which I didn't mind) but the blade was bone dry. It's not a big deal though, nothing 3-4 coats of oil can't fix. I won't be using it until next summer, so there's plenty of time to prep it... Also I don't think AS offers oval handles. Oval handles help prevent the bat from turning in your hands, especially when you don't middle the ball.
Btw, since you are only 5'6" 135 lbs, I would recommend you go for a light bat, 2lb 6-8 oz. It's easier to adjust to a lighter bat than to a heavier one.

It would be great if you post picture of your whole kit. You seem to be into circket equipments as well so it would be great to see your stuff :)

b98154
16th November 2010, 08:49
I will post pics of my V10 tomorrow. The one I got has a LOT of grains (14-15), bat was lighter than what I had asked for (which I didn't mind) but the blade was bone dry. It's not a big deal though, nothing 3-4 coats of oil can't fix. I won't be using it until next summer, so there's plenty of time to prep it... Also I don't think AS offers oval handles. Oval handles help prevent the bat from turning in your hands, especially when you don't middle the ball.
Btw, since you are only 5'6" 135 lbs, I would recommend you go for a light bat, 2lb 6-8 oz. It's easier to adjust to a lighter bat than to a heavier one.

Thanks bhai! Khalid bhai told me that the bat will be ready to play. Between I don't want the bat to be really light because it might be a little "weaker". Correct me if I am wrong because I don't have enough knowledge about Weights of the bat. Also, I can pick up a 3 lbs stick and swing it with ease (:P). I will order 2lbs 8oz bat if the bat's profile is not affected by the weight of the bat :)

b98154
16th November 2010, 08:52
Oh NVM Salman bhai, CD already answered my question about the "weakness" of the bat. :P
I will order 2.9 as CD bhai said. Shukriya CD bhai!

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 08:55
Thanks bhai! Khalid bhai told me that the bat will be ready to play. Between I don't want the bat to be really light because it might be a little "weaker". Correct me if I am wrong because I don't have enough knowledge about Weights of the bat. Also, I can pick up a 3 lbs stick and swing it with ease (:P). I will order 2lbs 8oz bat if the bat's profile is not affected by the weight of the bat :)

Regardless a bat being 'Ready to Play' it will need to be prepared as it will require oiling, knokcing etc


Oh NVM Salman bhai, CD already answered my question about the "weakness" of the bat. :P
I will order 2.9 as CD bhai said. Shukriya CD bhai!

No worries

b98154
16th November 2010, 10:10
So, $170 is better than buying a good bat from Jalandhar? If yes, I am about to place an order :D

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 10:29
So, $170 is better than buying a good bat from Jalandhar? If yes, I am about to place an order :D

Can you get a good bat for $170 from Jalandar? Will your dad be able to get hold of one?

I think $170 is a fair price and is reasonable price.

I thought you were getting two bats...


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b98154
16th November 2010, 10:54
Can you get a good bat for $170 from Jalandar? Will your dad be able to get hold of one?

I think $170 is a fair price and is reasonable price.

I thought you were getting two bats...


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Yeah, I am going to get my second bat from India. I have sent Waqas bhai all the information that he needed to finish the ordering process :)
By the way, I might only spend Rs 2500 (Approx. 55 USD) on my second Bat in India. I won't care that much about the quality of that bat as long as I can play with it using a leather ball :D I am very happy with my purchase with Khalid ji :)
Man, thanks for your help :D I will definitely post some pics of the bat once I get it.

b98154
16th November 2010, 11:15
Can you get a good bat for $170 from Jalandar? Will your dad be able to get hold of one?

I think $170 is a fair price and is reasonable price.

I thought you were getting two bats...


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I think you got me wrong. I meant that I am ordering AS V-10 from Khalid Bhai for $160 (+ $10 Western Union Charges). I was asking you if it is a good deal. Am I better off buying one bat from Waqas bhai than asking my to buy me two bats from Jalandhar (one for $170 and second for $55)? I believe I am. I am just waiting for Waqas Bhai's response.

b98154
16th November 2010, 13:40
Khalid Bhai told me that it might take him 3 days to place the order because of Eid. Can't Wait.
Anyways, I came across a seller from Sialkot, Pakistan who guarantees that he sells Original Bats. He was selling MB Malik Bubber Sher Limited Edition for 26,000 PKR (including shipping; approx. $305). I talked with him for around half an hour and his price came down to 16,000 PKR ($187.50) with shipping included to USA after I told him that my budget will not exceed 180 bucks. I was about to end our conversation when he slowly started bringing the price down to 16,000. Do you think that is a good deal. And, is MB Bubber Sher LE a better bat than AS V-10? I am sorry if I am being too stupid (or anything related); I feel if I ignore Khalid Bhai's offer, it will be a "bad thing" if you know what I mean. Mai dagebazi mai nahi believe karta. I don't want to get a bad bat either; I remember when it used to take me 10 minutes to buy a new bat when I was in India.

Cover Drive
16th November 2010, 15:07
Who is that guy in Sailkot who is giving MB LE for that price (Rs. 16,000)

SalmanK
16th November 2010, 18:34
16K PKR incl shipping sounds like a bargain for a Bubber Sher LE. But whether you will get an original bat is a big question. When you order factory direct, you at least have peace of mind that you won't get a fake.
Both Bubber LE and AS V10 have similar profiles. Have you seen CD's pictures of his Bubber LE? Sweet piece of willow!
Btw, you are the buyer. There's nothing wrong in going for the best deal you can get...

b98154
17th November 2010, 03:49
His name: Usman Asghar
Company Name: BHOLLA ENTERPRISES
Street Address: 1 / 475 nasir road
City: SIALKOT
Province/State: PUNJAB
Country/Region: Pakistan
Zip: 51310
Telephone: 92-524-594028
Mobile Phone: 923006148263
Fax: 92-524-594028
Website: http://www.bholla.com
I have a feeling that he might be selling fake bubber sher bats because his website has only plain English Willow bats. Moreover, why would he go from Rs. 26,000 to Rs. 16000? He told me that he will send me some pictures of the bat, but he didn't send them yet. I want to stick with Khalid bhai because I can trust him. I am waiting for his reply.

b98154
17th November 2010, 03:54
He is also available on Alibaba:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/110674318/MALIK_BUBBER_SHER.html
I think that the link shows the regular Bubber Sher, but the stickers look weird. Does it look real?

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 03:54
Did he send you any pictures so far?

b98154
17th November 2010, 04:02
16K PKR incl shipping sounds like a bargain for a Bubber Sher LE. But whether you will get an original bat is a big question. When you order factory direct, you at least have peace of mind that you won't get a fake.
Both Bubber LE and AS V10 have similar profiles. Have you seen CD's pictures of his Bubber LE? Sweet piece of willow!
Btw, you are the buyer. There's nothing wrong in going for the best deal you can get...

Yes, I have seen CD bahi's Bubber Sher Le bat. It looks great :D If AS V-10 is as good as Bubber Sher, I will definitely get AS V-10 :D

b98154
17th November 2010, 05:15
Did he send you any pictures so far?

No. I am gonna call the MB Malik Factory to make sure that they have authorized him to sell original bats.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 05:55
No. I am gonna call the MB Malik Factory to make sure that they have authorized him to sell original bats.

Sure, call them.

Do you have there number?

b98154
17th November 2010, 06:01
Sure, call them.

Do you have there number?

Yeah, I do. It's 92-321-6102003.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 06:48
He is also available on Alibaba:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/110674318/MALIK_BUBBER_SHER.html
I think that the link shows the regular Bubber Sher, but the stickers look weird. Does it look real?

Yes, that bat looks like a genuine MB Malik. Stickers are fine.

MB now moved back to painted version of Bubber Sher's now (link is below)

http://www.maliksports.co.uk/brandproduct.aspx?pageId=547


Yeah, I do. It's 92-321-6102003.

Since it is cell phone number then someone will pick it up. Factory would be closed today due to Eid.

Let me know who you speak to.

Bubber Sher LE retails around Rs. 15,300 (Around $190).

afaans
17th November 2010, 07:53
Does anyone know if Malik sports have a website or email address.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:02
Does anyone know if Malik sports have a website or email address.

Here you go, here is MB Malik email address (in Sailkot);

info@mbmalikintl.com

SalmanK
17th November 2010, 08:08
Ok, here are some pictures of my AS V10. Btw, the blade's color looks a bit uneven because I have applied a couple coats of oil. I think the edges absorbed the oil different than down the middle.

Anyway, one thing to note is that it comes with a 4 piece handle. Mine seems to have some damage to the rubber between the cane, as you can see in the picture (didn't notice it until I decided to take pictures for you!) AS could have done better, considering V10 is their top of the line bat (9 or 12 piece handle).

Still, overall not bad for the price at all. So now you can compare with the Bubber LE =)

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Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:12
Looks great Salman Bhai. I really like its spine which runs all the way.

If you don't mind can you elaborate a bit more on handles? I mean how do you know how many cane handle is it?

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:13
I have a question. Do Import/Export duties play a role if I import my AS V-10 from Khalid Bhai. Will I have to shell out extra money for importing the Bat from Pakistan?

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:14
Great pics Salman Bhai :)

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:16
I would ask Khalid Bhai to use 12 Piece handle only. I am sure I will get a good product from him :D

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:17
I have a question. Do Import/Export duties play a role if I import my AS V-10 from Khalid Bhai. Will I have to shell out extra money for importing the Bat from Pakistan?

Good question.

Many people who have bought bats from Waqas Bhai and Khalid Bhai got there bats shipped to Canada and US and they did not get charged by customs.

From what I have experienced and noticed is that stuff which comes via courier is charged by customs whereas stuff coming via local mail is not charged by customs. For example, I got gloves shipped from Pakistan and they came via DHL and I had to pay customs at the end and more importantly stuff got treated. On the other hand, I got stuff via Pakistan Post and I never got charged.

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:23
Since it is cell phone number then someone will pick it up. Factory would be closed today due to Eid.

Let me know who you speak to.

Bubber Sher LE retails around Rs. 15,300 (Around $190).

Yeah, I will let you know who I speak to. I will call the number at around 11:00 PM (in California).

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:25
Good question.

Many people who have bought bats from Waqas Bhai and Khalid Bhai got there bats shipped to Canada and US and they did not get charged by customs.

From what I have experienced and noticed is that stuff which comes via courier is charged by customs whereas stuff coming via local mail is not charged by customs. For example, I got gloves shipped from Pakistan and they came via DHL and I had to pay customs at the end and more importantly stuff got treated. On the other hand, I got stuff via Pakistan Post and I never got charged.

So telling my parents to buy a bat from Jalandhar is still the best thing to do?

SalmanK
17th November 2010, 08:26
See those 3 black rubber strips? They are wedged between 4 pieces of cane. This is a 4 piece handle.

In the case of a 12 piece handle, each piece above would in turn be made up of 3 pieces that are glued together. So you'd get 4 x 3 = 12 piece handle.

For a 9 piece handle you would have 2 rubber strips instead of 3, rest is same as above.
3 x 3 = 9 piece handle.

More cane pieces usually means better shock absorption (depends on the quality of construction as well.)

I think 02thoeva had warned in one of his posts about AS handles being a bit subpar. Oh well, live and learn ...

b98154, you might want to get the handle issue sorted out with Waqas bhai before placing your order ...

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:27
So telling my parents to buy a bat from Jalandhar is still the best thing to do?

AS people use Pakistan Post and there so far people who live in US, Canada etc haven't been charged by customs.

Ask Salman Bhai if he got charged or not.

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:30
Salman Bhai, did you get charged by Customs when you received your bat?

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:31
Between, Eid Mubarak :D

SalmanK
17th November 2010, 08:32
AS people use Pakistan Post and there so far people who live in US, Canada etc haven't been charged by customs.

Ask Salman Bhai if he got charged or not.

No I wasn't charged any customs. Indeed they sent by USPS Express Mail (must have a tie up with Pak Post I suppose).

Although, bat was stuck in customs for about 2-3 days in New York, but was cleared without needing any intervention from me. I was just tracking it online on usps.com. Packaging was pretty good, and the free bat cover it came in had really nice padding.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:32
See those 3 black rubber strips? They are wedged between 4 pieces of cane. This is a 4 piece handle.

In the case of a 12 piece handle, each piece above would in turn be made up of 3 pieces that are glued together. So you'd get 4 x 3 = 12 piece handle.

For a 9 piece handle you would have 2 rubber strips instead of 3, rest is same as above.
3 x 3 = 9 piece handle.

More cane pieces usually means better shock absorption (depends on the quality of construction as well.)

I think 02thoeva had warned in one of his posts about AS handles being a bit subpar. Oh well, live and learn ...

b98154, you might want to get the handle issue sorted out with Waqas bhai before placing your order ...

Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.

Yes, many people have complained that AS uses cheap handles (special mention to ca_gold bhai)

Here is picture of all of my bats handle so among them which one has the best handle and worst?

JazakAllah Khair

SalmanK
17th November 2010, 08:37
I can't tell from this angle!! Can you take a picture from the top? All of your bats have atleast 4 pieces (3 rubber strips). From the top view you might be able to tell whether any of them are 12 piece ... You might have to look closely, the glued pieces kinda blend together and are sometimes hard to distinguish

b98154
17th November 2010, 08:39
Thanks for the info Salman bhai! Greatly appreciated :)

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:44
I can't tell from this angle!! Can you take a picture from the top? All of your bats have atleast 4 pieces (3 rubber strips). From the top view you might be able to tell whether any of them are 12 piece ... You might have to look closely, the glued pieces kinda blend together and are sometimes hard to distinguish

Here you (sorry for the picture quality, it was taken from iPhone);

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 08:47
No I wasn't charged any customs. Indeed they sent by USPS Express Mail (must have a tie up with Pak Post I suppose).

Although, bat was stuck in customs for about 2-3 days in New York, but was cleared without needing any intervention from me. I was just tracking it online on usps.com. Packaging was pretty good, and the free bat cover it came in had really nice padding.

Hmm interesting. I always thought you get charged by customs with the courier shipping as people around me (including me have been charged).

I guess it depends on luck. If you are lucky then you can escape if not then too bad.

Silencer
17th November 2010, 08:50
See those 3 black rubber strips? They are wedged between 4 pieces of cane. This is a 4 piece handle.

In the case of a 12 piece handle, each piece above would in turn be made up of 3 pieces that are glued together. So you'd get 4 x 3 = 12 piece handle.

For a 9 piece handle you would have 2 rubber strips instead of 3, rest is same as above.
3 x 3 = 9 piece handle.

More cane pieces usually means better shock absorption (depends on the quality of construction as well.)

I think 02thoeva had warned in one of his posts about AS handles being a bit subpar. Oh well, live and learn ...

b98154, you might want to get the handle issue sorted out with Waqas bhai before placing your order ...

Excuse me my arrogance but what do you mean when you say 'pieces'? Is it the bit in between the black strips?

Also what exactly is cane?

b98154
17th November 2010, 09:01
Hmm interesting. I always thought you get charged by customs with the courier shipping as people around me (including me have been charged).

I guess it depends on luck. If you are lucky then you can escape if not then too bad.

Ah Man, I don't wanna play with my luck :(

SalmanK
17th November 2010, 09:02
@Silecener Yes, each "bit" between the black strips (rubber) is a piece of cane. It's made from Sarawak cane from Malaysia, at least the good ones are ...

@CD bhai, sorry I still can't tell whether any are 12 piece. You can examine each handle closely around its circumference. If you see an abrupt change in shade, that's a sign that 3 smaller pieces have been glued together to make one bigger piece. FWIW, I like the handles on 2, 3 and 5 (going left to right). I would say #4 is poorly constructed. Look at the 4 pieces, they are so uneven in size...

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 09:11
@CD bhai, sorry I still can't tell whether any are 12 piece. You can examine each handle closely around its circumference. If you see an abrupt change in shade, that's a sign that 3 smaller pieces have been glued together to make one bigger piece. FWIW, I like the handles on 2, 3 and 5 (going left to right). I would say #4 is poorly constructed. Look at the 4 pieces, they are so uneven in size...

Chorro yaar, it is too complicated :))

Interesting choices. I thought 5 was the worst (the one that says SH on top) as cracks have started to develop near the splice of that bat. Plus it is very thin. Technically I have 2.5-3 grips on it and it still feels think in my hand. Whereas handle on MB LE seem to be improved one compare to Bubber Sher. I also thought #4 (CA) handle was good as it felt nice in my hand.

By circumference worst looking handle is Newbery one.

JazakAllah Khair, for explaining though, I really appreciate it!

Silencer
17th November 2010, 09:18
@Silecener Yes, each "bit" between the black strips (rubber) is a piece of cane. It's made from Sarawak cane from Malaysia, at least the good ones are ...

@CD bhai, sorry I still can't tell whether any are 12 piece. You can examine each handle closely around its circumference. If you see an abrupt change in shade, that's a sign that 3 smaller pieces have been glued together to make one bigger piece. FWIW, I like the handles on 2, 3 and 5 (going left to right). I would say #4 is poorly constructed. Look at the 4 pieces, they are so uneven in size...

Cheers mate, I appreciate it!

Seems like you know a lot about cricket equipments, MashALLAH.

By the way, you have got a really good AS bat above. If you don't mind can you tell about rest of your kit? I mean what else have you got (in bats, pads, gloves etc).

SempreSami
17th November 2010, 09:30
Should see my brother's old Fearnley Nemesis, the handle only has one strip of cane in it.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 09:33
Should see my brother's old Fearnley Nemesis, the handle only has one strip of cane in it.

Interesting. I have heard Screaming Cat and Laver both have two rubber strips.

But as explained by Salman Bhai you would feel quite alot of shock with those bats, won't you?


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SempreSami
17th November 2010, 09:37
Very much so, older bats are less forgiving when you didn't find the middle.

Although I did cue end an attempted cut on a brand new ball with my GM Hero and I'm pretty sure the shock sent tremors through my entire skeleton. The bat sustained no damage at all, mind.

Cover Drive
17th November 2010, 10:07
True.

I once used an old bat which older chaps at my club own (who use V200, V500 etc) and even when you middle the middle the shock is quite feel-able.

One thing I always note is that these old era bats have very good life span. I have seen cricketer13's GN Dynadrive which was initially Graham Gooch despite being 15+ year old bat it doesn't even have a single crack on it's face.


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Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 01:21
b98154,

Did you call MB Malik? If so do you mind telling us what you spoken about?

Thanks

b98154
18th November 2010, 01:29
b98154,

Did you call MB Malik? If so do you mind telling us what you spoken about?

Thanks

I did call, but no one picked up the phone. Even Khalid Bhai didn't pick up the phone. I guess they were celebrating Eid :)

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 01:32
I did call, but no one picked up the phone. Even Khalid Bhai didn't pick up the phone. I guess they were celebrating Eid :)

Yes, they were :).

IF you are seriously interested and would buy MB LE (for sure) then I can hook you up one (only if you are interested in buying and will buy one for sure (ie. wont back out)). I know MB Malik owner quite well now so I can help you.

b98154
18th November 2010, 02:00
Yes, they were :).

IF you are seriously interested and would buy MB LE (for sure) then I can hook you up one (only if you are interested in buying and will buy one for sure (ie. wont back out)). I know MB Malik owner quite well now so I can help you.

I will seriously buy MB Bubber Sher LE if and only it is better than AS V-10. I have been contact with one Islamabad guy, who is offering me the bat for 15,000 PKR (including shipping). He asked for 19,000 at first. He also offered me IHsan Inferno 950 for 15,000. So, if I get a right price for MB Malik Bubber Sher LE from the factory, I will definitely buy it.

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 02:03
I will seriously buy MB Bubber Sher LE if and only it is better than AS V-10. I have been contact with one Islamabad guy, who is offering me the bat for 15,000 PKR (including shipping). He asked for 19,000 at first. He also offered me IHsan Inferno 950 for 15,000. So, if I get a right price for MB Malik Bubber Sher LE, I will definitely buy it.

I believe cricketer13 bhai would be the best person to answer your question whether MB LE is better or AS V10 as he has used both. I haven't used V10 yet so I am not too sure about it.

What's that Islamabad guy's name? Is he Armie (Armughan Altaf)?

b98154
18th November 2010, 02:08
His name is Adam Ahmed.

b98154
18th November 2010, 02:09
Is it possible to send cricketer13 bhai a message?

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 02:15
His name is Adam Ahmed.

Is he on Alibaba as well? Did he send you any pictures?


Is it possible to send cricketer13 bhai a message?

Unfortunately no. Hopefully he will read your post soon and will reply it.

b98154
18th November 2010, 02:25
Is he on Alibaba as well? Did he send you any pictures?


Yeah, he is on Alibaba. I told him to send pictures. He should send them today. I will post them here if he sends them.

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 02:32
Yes, that would be good if you post pictures here.

Since your budget is restricted I would say go for V10 as it is cheaper than MB LE and quality will be similar (hopefully). V3 and V10 are best Asian bat for it's value.

b98154
18th November 2010, 02:34
How much is AS V10 in Pakistan if you get it from, say UT Sports?

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 02:38
Around Rs. 10,300.

Knightrider
18th November 2010, 06:27
Here you (sorry for the picture quality, it was taken from iPhone);
Looking at the picture I think all ur bats have standard 4 piece handles. Few years ago bats like AS v3 and CA plus had 8/9 or 12 piece but nowdays bats generally have 4 piece handles. And I've checked all my current bats and all have 4 piece handle but couple of yrs back most of my bats had 9 or 12 piece handle.

b98154
18th November 2010, 07:13
Oh, how much is CA Plus 12000 LE (TRD TM Dilshan) at UTsports in Pakistan? I am wondering now if I only get one bat and increase my budget to 240 USD, will I get a better bat?

b98154
18th November 2010, 07:15
I would have ordered AS V10 two days ago if I had received Khalid Bhai's email :|
But now, I have started to look at almost all the bats that are under $250.

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 08:09
TRD goes around $240 at UT Sports in Karachi.

I think you have started to dislike V10. Let me tell you once again it is a quality stick and you won't regret by purchasing that.

But if you want something more expensive or better than V10 in terms of quality then it would be TRD and/or MB LE.

b98154
18th November 2010, 08:16
TRD goes around $240 at UT Sports in Karachi.

I think you have started to dislike V10. Let me tell you once again it is a quality stick and you won't regret by purchasing that.

But if you want something more expensive or better than V10 in terms of quality then it would be TRD and/or MB LE.

I have two MB LE (which I am looking to sell) so if you want one I can give one to you.

Actually, I have started to like AS V10, but I can get MB Bubber Sher LE for only 10-20 USD, I won't regret buying Bubber Sher at all. I know that AS V10 is a nice bat, but ... honestly Bubber Sher, Ihsan Inferno 950, and CA Plus bats have freaking nice looking stickers :P Now, I have started to like the stickers of AS V10 though :)

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 08:27
Actually, I have started to like AS V10, but I can get MB Bubber Sher LE for only 10-20 USD, I won't regret buying Bubber Sher at all. I know that AS V10 is a nice bat, but ... honestly Bubber Sher, Ihsan Inferno 950, and CA Plus bats have freaking nice looking stickers :P Now, I have started to like the stickers of AS V10 though :)

Sorry I am now confused.

Which one do you want Bubber Sher or Bubber Sher LE?

I can also vouch that you won't regret if you buy MB LE.

As far price is concerned you are right that you will have to pay additional $20-30 and you can probably get MB LE etc


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b98154
18th November 2010, 09:12
Sorry I am now confused.

Which one do you want Bubber Sher or Bubber Sher LE?

I can also vouch that you won't regret if you buy MB LE.

As far price is concerned you are right that you will have to pay additional $20-30 and you can probably get MB LE etc


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I am sorry for not being clear. I meant Bubber Sher LE. Between, I tried calling Khalid Bhai. And, he didn't pick up the phone. I will call him again at around 11:00 PM (PST).

afaans
18th November 2010, 09:38
Cover Drive where did u buy ur Bubber Sher Le from

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 09:39
Cover Drive where did u buy ur Bubber Sher Le from

Directly from MB Malik factory.

b98154
18th November 2010, 10:55
So, Islamabad guy refused to give me Bubber Sher LE for 16,000 PKR now. He is offering me Ihsan Inferno 950 for 15,000 PKR. Should I get Ihsan Inferno 950 or AS V-10. The guy keeps insisting me that AS bats are bad, which is scaring me a bit now. I understand he is a business man he needs to say that to attract customers, but he was being very friendly. He told me he has played Cricket in Pakistan under Grade 2. I'll post some pics that he is about to send me. Here's his website:
http://www.smarkcoenterprises.com/home.htm

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 11:17
So, Islamabad guy refused to give me Bubber Sher LE for 16,000 PKR now. He is offering me Ihsan Inferno 950 for 15,000 PKR. Should I get Ihsan Inferno 950 or AS V-10. The guy keeps insisting me that AS bats are bad, which is scaring me a bit now. I understand he is a business man he needs to say that to attract customers, but he was being very friendly. He told me he has played Cricket in Pakistan under Grade 2. I'll post some pics that he is about to send me. Here's his website:
http://www.smarkcoenterprises.com/home.htm

I have seen this website before as well. If I remember correctly some one have dealt with him on this forum (I think).

His website tells us he is Australia based.

Because he is not stocking AS bats.

Pictures are from here and there. Some pictures are of UT Sports bat and some are of other sellers (although I am not sure if they have any link with them).

b98154
18th November 2010, 11:22
I have seen this website before as well. If I remember correctly some one have dealt with him on this forum (I think).

His website tells us he is Australia based.

Because he is not stocking AS bats.

Pictures are from here and there. Some pictures are of UT Sports bat and some are of other sellers (although I am not sure if they have any link with them).
I think he is a fraud. His website is Australia based. He does understand Urdu though. His email id is UK based. And, he told me more than 20 times that he will send me pics,
but never did. Do you know if someone who dealt with him got an original product?

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 11:28
I think he is a fraud. His website is Australia based. He does understand Urdu though. His email id is UK based. And, he told me more than 20 times that he will send me pics,
but never did. Do you know if someone who dealt with him got an original product?

lol what does Urdu have to do with any of this ?

I am not too sure if someone had dealt with him or not. As I said someone did bring up this website before and I really can't remember if they dealt or what. Sorry.

As SalmanK Bhai pointed buying from factory will give you peace of mind that the product is genuine etc. Khalid Bhai, might be busy with his family as it was Eid so he might be away from business for couple of days. Just be patience and he will answer it.

b98154
18th November 2010, 12:08
At first when he spoke Urdu, I thought he was actually from Sialkot. Lol. I understand that some people in Australia (or any other country for that matter) know Urdu/Hindi. Now, I realized that his identity has NOT been confirmed by Alibaba. There is a good chance that he does not even live in Pakistan. Khalid Bhai, on the other hand, is a "Gold Seller" on Alibaba, meaning that his identity has been verified (i.e. He is a trusted seller). I am still waiting for his respond though. Between, when I asked Mako Sports guy again about the pics, he told me that the pics on his website are the only ones the he has. Seemed like he made an effort to "google"
Bat pics but, most likely, failed. Lol.

b98154
18th November 2010, 12:15
lol what does Urdu have to do with any of this ?

I am not too sure if someone had dealt with him or not. As I said someone did bring up this website before and I really can't remember if they dealt or what. Sorry.

As SalmanK Bhai pointed buying from factory will give you peace of mind that the product is genuine etc. Khalid Bhai, might be busy with his family as it was Eid so he might be away from business for couple of days. Just be patience and he will answer it.

Yes. I have confirmed now that I will deal with Khalid Bhai now. I have spent hours talking to businessmen on Alibaba. Lol. The first one was Khalid Bhai. After spending my precious time that I could have used to do my homework (a big assignment that is due this Friday :(), I have come to the conclusion that the first person I talked to was/is the best. Now, I hope that I will learn "Patience is a virtue" without wasting my "qeemti waqat" :P

Poison
18th November 2010, 16:27
Question - if I order a plain G1 English Willow bat can it be made to my specifications?

I.e. If I tell them to put the most amount of wood possible in a bat weighing no more than 2.8 could they do it? *cough* sialkotshop.com *cough*

:fawad

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 19:46
Poison Bhai,

Yes, it is possible. Opener Bhai, got anplain custom bay made from Bhasarat Bhai (sailkotshop) and is happy with it.

Goggy
18th November 2010, 22:15
Question - if I order a plain G1 English Willow bat can it be made to my specifications?

I.e. If I tell them to put the most amount of wood possible in a bat weighing no more than 2.8 could they do it? *cough* sialkotshop.com *cough*

:fawad

I've been shopping today at boundary sports (birmingham) and picked up a bargain, grade 1 plain bat, 2lb 8oz with big edges. I'll post some pics later on.

Cover Drive
18th November 2010, 22:18
Goggy Bhai, what happened to your Apollo Sports bat? Did you get one then?

Goggy
18th November 2010, 23:55
Goggy Bhai, what happened to your Apollo Sports bat? Did you get one then?

nahin yaar, it wasnt a pleasant experience. I think people have to be careful online when a deal seems too good to be true.

Anyways i managed to get a good deal at boundary, we had our club kit done by them and i went to check out some end of season sales, ended up buying a decent bat. I think my next purchase will be an albion helmet now...

SempreSami
19th November 2010, 00:39
Which one, the Ultimate 98?

ca_gold
22nd November 2010, 21:22
so did the OP get an AS then?

cricket_fan1
24th November 2010, 18:58
Yes. I have confirmed now that I will deal with Khalid Bhai now. I have spent hours talking to businessmen on Alibaba. Lol. The first one was Khalid Bhai. After spending my precious time that I could have used to do my homework (a big assignment that is due this Friday :(), I have come to the conclusion that the first person I talked to was/is the best. Now, I hope that I will learn "Patience is a virtue" without wasting my "qeemti waqat" :P
What happen about your bat or any response from AS Sports

Cover Drive
8th December 2010, 12:17
Mate, any luck ?

Did Khalid Bhai respond to your emails?

Armie
15th December 2010, 12:04
His name is Adam Ahmed.

It is Armughan Altaf and not adnan ahmad. And i know, coz its me ;)

b98154
15th December 2010, 13:56
It is Armughan Altaf and not adnan ahmad. And i know, coz its me ;)

Lol. You closed your company? Why did you make a fake identity on Alibaba? I had a feeling that you were fake when I was chatting with you :P I already bought AS V10 and SG Cobra Select :) apne hi farmaya tha ki Mai Banda mast hu. Masti mai hi pata chalgaya ;)

Cricketismylife
16th December 2010, 03:46
Hello all,

Just a few observations on this thread.

The RBK Dhoni bat on page 1 is most definitely fake.

b98154, whats the name of that seller??

b98154
16th December 2010, 05:53
Hello all,

Just a few observations on this thread.

The RBK Dhoni bat on page 1 is most definitely fake.

b98154, whats the name of that seller??

MYCRICKETBAT from Amazon. I actually received my AS V10 today.

Here are the pictures of my AS V10;

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-38.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-39.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-40.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-41.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-43.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-44.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-45.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-46.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/minhasuz/photo-47.jpg

Cover Drive
16th December 2010, 06:08
Very lovely stick I must say. It looks very nice and I hope it plays as good as it look. The spine looks very nice I must say.

Tell us more about it. How is it feeling in your hands ? Hows the balance, pickup etc ? Whats the weight ? Edge size ? etc.

You shouldn't have applied the fibretech on the face. When peeling off it does ruin the bat but make sure you peel from top right corner and all the way to bottom (bottom left corner).

Looks one of the best AS V10 I have ever seen. Looks like Khalid Bhai had sent you the best piece. At last, your wait was well worth :)

b98154
16th December 2010, 08:42
Very lovely stick I must say. It looks very nice and I hope it plays as good as it look. The spine looks very nice I must say.

Tell us more about it. How is it feeling in your hands ? Hows the balance, pickup etc ? Whats the weight ? Edge size ? etc.

You shouldn't have applied the fibretech on the face. When peeling off it does ruin the bat but make sure you peel from top right corner and all the way to bottom (bottom left corner).

Looks one of the best AS V10 I have ever seen. Looks like Khalid Bhai had sent you the best piece. At last, your wait was well worth :)

Yes, I am EXTREMELY happy with the bat. The ping is FREAKING awesome! Similar pickup to SG Cobra Select, but handle is more strong and thicker. I like the feel of thinner handle better since my hands aren't that big. But, it feels really good with gloves on. The weight is around 2.10. The edges are a little (by 0.5 cm perhaps) thicker than Cobra's edges. The edges have some wood peeling off, which is most likely due to the shipping and handling.

I don't know why I applied fibretech. I had 10 of them lying in my bedroom since they came free with SG bat.

I tried removing, but it peeled of a little piece of wood from the face of my lovely AS V10 :( Should I try to remove it from the top corner? Should I get Cleartech instead? or Should I leave it as it is?

Also, how is this bat? Click Here (http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/mycricketbat/the-54/Kookaburra-Kahuna-Ricky-Ponting/Detail)
Looks a fake to me because it is being sold by mycricketbat.com, but I can get it for 158 USD (shipped)after a Coupon Code Discount:)

Cover Drive
16th December 2010, 08:58
Yes, I am EXTREMELY happy with the bat. The ping is FREAKING awesome! Similar pickup to SG Cobra Select, but handle is more strong and thicker. I like the feel of thinner handle better since my hands aren't that big. But, it feels really good with gloves on. The weight is around 2.10. The edges are a little (by 0.5 cm perhaps) thicker than Cobra's edges. The edges have some wood peeling off, which is most likely due to the shipping and handling.

I don't know why I applied fibretech. I had 10 of them lying in my bedroom since they came free with SG bat.

I tried removing, but it peeled of a little piece of wood from the face of my lovely AS V10 :( Should I try to remove it from the top corner? Should I get Cleartech instead? or Should I leave it as it is?

Also, how is this bat? Click Here (http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/mycricketbat/the-54/Kookaburra-Kahuna-Ricky-Ponting/Detail)
Looks a fake to me because it is being sold by mycricketbat.com, but I can get it for 158 USD (shipped)after a Coupon Code Discount:)
I'm glad you are liking your AS V10.

Hopefully I will buy AS bat one day :).

Hmm how little piece of wood is peeling off? Can you send a picture so I can get a better idea.

Yes, Cleartech is the best. The one I would recommend would be Gray Nicolls.

Fake, enough said :)

b98154
16th December 2010, 09:09
I'm glad you are liking your AS V10.

Hopefully I will buy AS bat one day :).

Hmm how little piece of wood is peeling off? Can you send a picture so I can get a better idea.

Yes, Cleartech is the best. The one I would recommend would be Gray Nicolls.

Fake, enough said :)

I tucked it with Fibretech.... IDK how to remove it :( Should I take the risk and slowly peel off the Fibretech as you suggested? I can also wait until I get Gray Nicolls Cleartech. I have an electrical sanding machine that would probably take care of the peeled off wood.

Cover Drive
16th December 2010, 09:14
Peel it from top right corner all the way to bottom left corner.

Cover Drive
16th December 2010, 10:54
.

Cricketismylife
16th December 2010, 16:02
Luckily not major damage done.

Cut the fibers hanging off the bat and then sand it - first with rough sandpaper and then a fine one.

b98154
17th December 2010, 06:43
Luckily not major damage done.

Cut the fibers hanging off the bat and then sand it - first with rough sandpaper and then a fine one.

Thanks a lot! I will do that ASAP and post some pics tomorrow. I have one more concern about the bat. The wood looks a little dry since it's not very smooth even though it does look fine in the picture. Should I sand that area and then oil it? Khalid Bhai told me that the Bat is Ready To Play and has been oiled and knocked in. I don't want to over oil the bat.

Cricketismylife
21st December 2010, 04:34
sand and then put the pictures.

did he say it was oiled or did he say it was ready to play.

Ready to play just means the bat has been pressed post production so doesnt need knocking in.

Yet to come across a "ready to play" bat that was oiled by the company.

Also oiled bat goes a bit yellow.

If it feels dry it might be then. Most Pak bats are pretty dry (except CA which are changing as well).

will wait for the pics before saying for sure.

Cover Drive
21st December 2010, 04:43
sand and then put the pictures.

did he say it was oiled or did he say it was ready to play.

Ready to play just means the bat has been pressed post production so doesnt need knocking in.

Yet to come across a "ready to play" bat that was oiled by the company.

Also oiled bat goes a bit yellow.

If it feels dry it might be then. Most Pak bats are pretty dry (except CA which are changing as well).

will wait for the pics before saying for sure.

Usually when you buy bats from the stores rather than the factory they are dry because they have been in the stores for a while, however, if you buy anything directly from the factory it is unlikely to get a very dry stick as you will most likely get a "fresh" bat.

I got three MB LE's and none of them required oiling.

b98154
22nd December 2010, 09:39
Usually when you buy bats from the stores rather than the factory they are dry because they have been in the stores for a while, however, if you buy anything directly from the factory it is unlikely to get a very dry stick as you will most likely get a "fresh" bat.

I got three MB LE's and none of them required oiling.
KHalid Bhai told me that the bat was knocked in, oiled, and ready-to-play.
I have sanded and oiled the bat (1-2 coats only). I was trying to apply Gray Nicolls Extratec sheet, but failed. I realized now that recently oiled bats will repel adhesive tapes. I will wait for a day or two, and then apply it. I am about to send CD bhai some pics if he could post them for me. Thanks in advance CD bhai :)

b98154
22nd December 2010, 10:06
Just found out some info about bat handle(s): I assume my AS V10's handle is made out of 12 piece Sarawak Cane because AS Sports claims so :) The rubber strips are actually for shock absorption, and they don't represent how many pieces the handle is made out of. Gray Nicolls uses Carbon fiber instead of rubber with their Carbo edition cricket bats for better shock absorption in theory.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 11:17
Looks superb mate!

With the scuff sheet and all the final touches the bat looks even better than its new condition.

Great work :14:

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 11:37
Posted a month or so ago regarding new bat. I emailed Khalid bhai I believe from AS and cost should be around 185 with shipping for AS V10. Good deal? Also wondering from the original poster if I should ask anything in particular regarding the bat like with the handle and etc...

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 11:39
$185 is a good price for AS V10.

If I remember correctly didn't you wanted to buy a English bat ?

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 11:43
No I was fine with a Pakistani bat as long as it was top quality english willow. AS V10 was the cheapest option so Im most likely opting for that unless I can find a great deal elsewhere for a Bubber LE or something else which I doubt I will.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:00
No I was fine with a Pakistani bat as long as it was top quality english willow. AS V10 was the cheapest option so Im most likely opting for that unless I can find a great deal elsewhere for a Bubber LE or something else which I doubt I will.

AS V3 and AS V10 are best Asian bats for its value and I haven't seen a single disappointed AS owner.

What is your budget regarding MB LE ?

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 12:02
Well basically if I can get it cheaper then 185 which is what I am getting for the AS (with shipping) I would def get it but I doubt I can get such a price for MB LE.

b98154
23rd December 2010, 12:03
Thanks CD Bhai! Obeid Bhai, I would definitely recommend AS V10 bat. 185 is a good price depending on where you are located. Just tell him how your bat should look like: weight, no. of grains, Handle size, sweetspot location, etc. Tell him that you want 12 piece Sarawak cane handle. I an sure that you will get a 12 piece Sarawak cane handle anyway. The handle IMO is a little in the thicker side. You can ask him to make some adjustments to your needs. Good luck man. Also, if you are not that tall (not more than 5'7") and interested in English bats, then take a look at GM Academy sized bat that they just started shipping this month.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:06
Well basically if I can get it cheaper then 185 which is what I am getting for the AS (with shipping) I would def get it but I doubt I can get such a price for MB LE.

Bubber Sher LE retails for something close to $200 in Pakistan so it is highly highly unlikely to get a genuine MB LE in that price range (a brand new).

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 12:11
Bubber Sher LE retails for something close to $200 in Pakistan so it is highly highly unlikely to get a genuine MB LE in that price range (a brand new).

True...just a quick question guys. When asking for the weight I want a light bat. Now when I say 2.7 is that in lbs or oz. Because my last MB Sher amin from few years ago that I still have is 2.10 but not sure if it is 2.10 lbs or oz. I want a bat lighter then this.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:14
True...just a quick question guys. When asking for the weight I want a light bat. Now when I say 2.7 is that in lbs or oz. Because my last MB Sher amin from few years ago that I still have is 2.10 but not sure if it is 2.10 lbs or oz. I want a bat lighter then this.

You say it in lbs.

For example, I want a 2.7 lbs bat.

So AS V10 is it ?

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 12:18
Most likely...will have to confirm with dad :)

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:23
InshAllah, everything will go well :).

PS: Do post a review of your bat which ever you opt out for at the end :)

Obeid
23rd December 2010, 12:24
Inshallah will try my best. Thanks for the help CD Bhai

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:27
No worries mate, no need to say thank. :)

I remember I once heard from someone that AS V3 and AS V10 both pretty much have similar quality of cleft being used and are pretty much the same. So you might want to opt out for AS V3 is budget is really a issue.

Poison
23rd December 2010, 12:37
Have bought an SS Ton, will post up pics when it arrives.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:39
Have bought an SS Ton, will post up pics when it arrives.

Not bad. Mind telling which one though ?

PS: Do post a full review as I am sure many of us will be interested in reading it.

b98154
23rd December 2010, 12:46
No worries mate, no need to say thank. :)

I remember I once heard from someone that AS V3 and AS V10 both pretty much have similar quality of cleft being used and are pretty much the same. So you might want to opt out for AS V3 is budget is really a issue.

I think the difference between AS V3 and AS V10 is a little. More like a difference between GM 909 and GM Original. Stickers and profile are of course different. Also, congrats Poison Bhai. Can't wait to see pics :)

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 12:53
I think the difference between AS V3 and AS V10 is a little. More like a difference between GM 909 and GM Original. Stickers and profile are of course different. Also, congrats Poison Bhai. Can't wait to see pics :)

Actually the profile is more or less the same.

There is very minimal difference in the cleft as well but again V10 has a better one.

b98154
23rd December 2010, 13:01
No worries mate, no need to say thank. :)

I remember I once heard from someone that AS V3 and AS V10 both pretty much have similar quality of cleft being used and are pretty much the same. So you might want to opt out for AS V3 is budget is really a issue.


Actually the profile is more or less the same.

There is very minimal difference in the cleft as well but again V10 has a better one.

Oh I see. Thanks for the info Bhai. I assume that minimal difference in the cleft will only make a minimal difference in the performance. If budget is a concern, Obeid Bhai won't go wrong with AS V3 as you said before.

Poison
23rd December 2010, 13:02
Probably the 'Ton Professional', or the 'Yuvi T20'.

It's pretty costly (am getting it from India from a work colleague's friend) and is more than I'd normally spend on a bat but I've always wanted to try an SS.

Cover Drive
23rd December 2010, 13:15
Oh I see. Thanks for the info Bhai. I assume that minimal difference in the cleft will only make a minimal difference in the performance. If budget is a concern, Obeid Bhai won't go wrong with AS V3 as you said before.

Performance would be more of less the same I would say.

V10 is more like a professional player bat compare to V3.


Probably the 'Ton Professional', or the 'Yuvi T20'.

It's pretty costly (am getting it from India from a work colleague's friend) and is more than I'd normally spend on a bat but I've always wanted to try an SS.

Actually Indian bats are a bit steeper compare to Pakistani bats so that could be one of the reason.

I haven't seen 'Professional' but I have seen 'Yuvi T20' and its not that bad bat I must say.

Which Yuvi T20 are you getting ? G2 or G1 ?

Poison
23rd December 2010, 13:23
G1 :fawad

thegreenmachine
30th December 2010, 16:37
(I think I posted this message in the wrong thread yesterday - apologies!)

I was wondering what the experts here, consider the main difference to be between the Bubber Sher (either regular, or the LE version), and the other two top Pakistani bats (AS V10 and CA Plus 12000). I've read a bit about the middle being slightly different in each of the three, but are the three almost the same bat? Or is there a real difference that should make people prefer one.

I love to drive the ball - both front-foot as well as off the back-foot (in fact, I tried "Cover Drive" as a username when I was registering with PP!). I am more of an "orthodox" batsman and like timing the ball through the "V". But I've had problems trying to hit sixes, and so am wondering if there is a bat amongst those three that would: 1. help me increase my hitting distance and 2. still help my "natural" stroke-making.

Would really appreciate any insight that you can share.

Many Thanks !!

ca_gold
30th December 2010, 18:38
(I think I posted this message in the wrong thread yesterday - apologies!)

I was wondering what the experts here, consider the main difference to be between the Bubber Sher (either regular, or the LE version), and the other two top Pakistani bats (AS V10 and CA Plus 12000). I've read a bit about the middle being slightly different in each of the three, but are the three almost the same bat? Or is there a real difference that should make people prefer one.

I love to drive the ball - both front-foot as well as off the back-foot (in fact, I tried "Cover Drive" as a username when I was registering with PP!). I am more of an "orthodox" batsman and like timing the ball through the "V". But I've had problems trying to hit sixes, and so am wondering if there is a bat amongst those three that would: 1. help me increase my hitting distance and 2. still help my "natural" stroke-making.

Would really appreciate any insight that you can share.

Many Thanks !!


the main difference between the LE and the regular are the number of grains you'll find on the bats. Malik will say that its of a higher quality willow - but at the end of the day you will find very high performing sher's as well. its better to see what feels best in your hands. i couldnt really decide between the two until i picked them up.

if your willing to spend, in my opinion the MB LE and the CA TRD are the two best bats going at the moment in pakistan.

thegreenmachine
30th December 2010, 19:47
thanks ca_gold. would you say there is much of a difference between the two (CA and MB LE), given my two goals? or are the differences really minor?

Poison
30th December 2010, 19:56
^ Sher Amin is literally a slogging machine. Low middle, and the middle is as meaty as they get. It's also pretty light. The low middle would probably help your driving game as well. Only problem is it's fairly weak for more back foot shots, like the pull or cut.

Cover Drive
30th December 2010, 23:48
the main difference between the LE and the regular are the number of grains you'll find on the bats. Malik will say that its of a higher quality willow - but at the end of the day you will find very high performing sher's as well. its better to see what feels best in your hands. i couldnt really decide between the two until i picked them up.

if your willing to spend, in my opinion the MB LE and the CA TRD are the two best bats going at the moment in pakistan.

Yes, the golden rule as ca_gold bhai said is that try the bats and see which one feels the best in your hands. I take you're based in NY so it would be difficult unless you are buying from NY or planning to go Pakistan and pick one up from Pakistan.

Just to add as I said in my other post (replying to you) there is a difference in cletf well that's what I find. I don't think there is difference in number of grains. My regular bubber sher has more grains than LE but there is cleft difference and more importantly craftsmanship.

Ca_gold bhai, you went to Gander who had very good quality so it is obvious that his regular Bubber Shers will be as good as MB LEs just like Asad Bhais Newbery Players being as good as SPS :D


thanks ca_gold. would you say there is much of a difference between the two (CA and MB LE), given my two goals? or are the differences really minor?

Sorry for poking my nose in (I hope you don't mind :) ). The only difference I can think of is location of the sweetspot and finishing as cleft is more or less the same. From what I have heard is that TRDs finsihing is pretty much like 12000 Plus whereas MB Les finsihing is one of the best in Asia and easily comparable to leading finishers.


^ Sher Amin is literally a slogging machine. Low middle, and the middle is as meaty as they get. It's also pretty light. The low middle would probably help your driving game as well. Only problem is it's fairly weak for more back foot shots, like the pull or cut.

Very well put in brief post, great work Poison Bhai :)

Armie
16th April 2011, 22:27
Lol. You closed your company? Why did you make a fake identity on Alibaba? I had a feeling that you were fake when I was chatting with you :P I already bought AS V10 and SG Cobra Select :) apne hi farmaya tha ki Mai Banda mast hu. Masti mai hi pata chalgaya ;)


I do not have an id on alibaba. But armie is me, not some other guy. By the way, i am not aware of Mr.Adnan Ahmad.