Current Pakistani Test team is boring.

[Mobashir]

I know we are playing ok test cricket in this series and were also ok in the last one.
But this is the most boring Test team I have seen.
Every team has some exiting players, but in this team we have non of them.
our fast bowlers are no fun to watch, maybe Wahab Riaz is ok in this regard.
And our batting is as boring as you can get, Hafeez can be ok but he doesn't last long. Younis Khan can also be ok.

:akhtar:moyo:wasim:asif:amir:afridi:vicky:anwar

[*sallu*]

Believe it or not, I agree to an extent

Yes, I prefer this team to the one we had before, its more reliable, but there is no doubt we need one game changing batsman and 2 game changing bowlers, our bowling especially is completely toothless, and attacks like India, RSA and England will continuously sscore 500+ against us

I don't mind this batting line up, but the bowling is completely toothless on test tracks around the world unless there is excess spin/seam available

[Paradox]

Yeah, come on selectors, let's fill our Test side with guys like Shahzaib Hasan, Humayun Farhat, Imran Nazir, Tariq Haroon, and others just so Mobashir doesn't get bored.

[Geordie Ahmed]

It is boring BUT after the year we have just had boring is a very good thing

[*sallu*]

It is boring BUT after the year we have just had boring is a very good thing

In the batting department yes, but we don't some game changers in the bowling department.

Bowling is too toothless.

If you replace a Tanvir with someone like an Amir, then we'll have a much better look to our side.

Also, even though Rehman has done exceptionally, if you don't have attacking fast bowlers, you need attacking spinners.

So far, we are playing a generally very defensive test bowling line up.

[ShehryarK]

Yeah, come on selectors, let's fill our Test side with guys like Shahzaib Hasan, Humayun Farhat, Imran Nazir, Tariq Haroon, and others just so Mobashir doesn't get bored.

:))

Well said.

The issue isn't boredom or lack thereof - its quality.

Our batting line-up is fine - much better than it has been in the past few years.

We don't have a game-changing bowling attack - this bowling line-up has four honest and hard working triers, and hence they'll struggle to take 20 wickets on flat tracks against top sides like England, SA and India. However, with no amazing alternatives in the wings, we have no option. Shoaib might be a possibility. Other than than, some youngster should be tried, first in ODIs and then eventually in Tests, such as Junaid Khan - that's a medium term option though. In the short-term, the current line-up will do just fine.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Well the bowling was always going to be weak after what happened last summer

We need to show some patience, as the team is going through an important phase

[*sallu*]

Well yes, I am most definitely not laying the blame on any one for the selection of our bowling line-up, circumstances have made things this way, but as a Pakistani fan, it is a pain watching the ball come down gun barrel straight at slow speeds

Traditionally we've selected big turning leg spinners, fast and furious quickies or guys who really move the ball (Asif like)

Hopefully we can get one out of Asif or Amir back which will bring some life back to our bowling attack

[asdf0045]

Boring is what we need to win a test match and to especially after what happened past few months

[Justcrazy]

I think the batting looks decent. It will grow as asad, umar akmal , and azhar ali get better with little more experience. Bowling needs Asif and Aamir to be back. With them back, Pakistan needs a attacking spinner. That would be perfect. At least they are not loosing matches.
Its worse to be flashy and loose matches, better to be boring and save games.

[Mobashir]

Yeah, come on selectors, let's fill our Test side with guys like Shahzaib Hasan, Humayun Farhat, Imran Nazir, Tariq Haroon, and others just so Mobashir doesn't get bored.

I am not saying that we need to change the team especially if we keep on winning.
But that is sad that Pakistan team, the most enjoyable to watch is the most boring cricket team in the world.:shahzaib

[pakistani pride]

just look at the rr of our team for the last 3 games. Its crimincal to be playing at a rr under 3 an over nowadays.

[Mobashir]

just look at the rr of our team for the last 3 games. Its crimincal to be playing at a rr under 3 an over nowadays.

With Taufeeq Umar, Azhar Ali and Misbah ul Haq we will not get much more.

[Mobashir]

:))

Well said.

The issue isn't boredom or lack thereof - its quality.

Our batting line-up is fine - much better than it has been in the past few years.

We don't have a game-changing bowling attack - this bowling line-up has four honest and hard working triers, and hence they'll struggle to take 20 wickets on flat tracks against top sides like England, SA and India. However, with no amazing alternatives in the wings, we have no option. Shoaib might be a possibility. Other than than, some youngster should be tried, first in ODIs and then eventually in Tests, such as Junaid Khan - that's a medium term option though. In the short-term, the current line-up will do just fine.

Better or not is another debate! I may not agree.

I am not asking to change the batsmen because they are boring! But feeling very sad that you can hardly watch our team play.
Even New Zeland have some interesting batsmen like Williamson, Taylor and Ryder...

[Zaz]

It is boring BUT after the year we have just had boring is a very good thing

Spot on. Im just happy seeing no controversy and no collapses.

Nowt much we can do about the bowling apart from try the odd youngster. Its great to see the batsmen actually knucklin down and showing fight, rather than playing the odd flashy shot n getting out

More boring pls!!!

[ShehryarK]

Even New Zeland have some interesting batsmen like Williamson, Taylor and Ryder...But our aggregate run rate in this Test series has been much higher than the Kiwi team, and we have performed much better than them in batting - this despite the fact that they are playing in their home conditions!

I'd rather take Pakistan's "less interesting" batsmen who score more runs at a faster pace in more difficult conditions than their "more interesting" Kiwi counterparts. :)

[Mobashir]

But our aggregate run rate in this Test series has been much higher than the Kiwi team, and we have performed much better than them in batting - this despite the fact that they are playing in their home conditions!

I'd rather take Pakistan's "less interesting" batsmen who score more runs at a faster pace in more difficult conditions than their "more interesting" Kiwi counterparts. :)

I am not talking about run rate otherwise i would have said Mc Cullum.

But i think you are not getting the point, i was just saying :
It's sad that our team is boring whereas it was the most enjoyable team in the world.

[ShehryarK]

It's sad that our team is boring whereas it was the most enjoyable team in the world.I don't think its sad at all though :)

In the current series, so far, New Zealand have scored at 2.81 runs per over, and averaged 24.7 runs per wicket.

Pakistan have scored at 2.97 runs per over, and averaged 43.5 runs per wicket.

This despite NZL being at home and Pak not having its two best bowlers.

I know which team's batting performance I find more interesting!! :)

[KSaeed]

I'd prefer winning matches with a boring side than losing and having continuous controversies with an exciting one. Our current line up is full of people who may not have the talent but play ever match for the country with full effort- therefore even if they aren't exciting, I have no complaint.

[Mobashir]

I don't think its sad at all though :)

In the current series, so far, New Zealand have scored at 2.81 runs per over, and averaged 24.7 runs per wicket.

Pakistan have scored at 2.97 runs per over, and averaged 43.5 runs per wicket.

This despite NZL being at home and Pak not having its two best bowlers.

I know which team's batting performance I find more interesting!! :)

I am not talking about this series and also not talking about performances so don't know why you are bringing stats!

For example : Ryder has scored 2 ducks and under 20 i think in the three innings he has played in this series.
That doesn't make him a less interisting batsman than Taufeeq Umar or Azhar Ali...

[kkmix]

I think this team is more exciting than ever, they are showing fighting abilities, and that is what's exciting to see. Because there weren't lot of fighters before in the team. But if you wanna see exciting sloggers :umarakmal in the test team then I am sorry out team will go downhill.

[*sallu*]

LOL, pulease, there is no comparison between the 2 batting line ups, Pakistan being the better one of course

[Mobashir]

LOL, pulease, there is no comparison between the 2 batting line ups, Pakistan being the better one of course

I was not comparing the two teams, SheryarK is.
I think Taufeeq Umar is a better opener than Hafeez.
But i am sure about 80% of PPers prefer to watch Hafeez bat...

[KSaeed]

I was not comparing the two teams, SheryarK is.
I think Taufeeq Umar is a better opener than Hafeez.
But i am sure about 80% of PPers prefer to watch Hafeez bat...

not if he makes less than Taufeeq Umar

[hur rizvi]

LOL, pulease, there is no comparison between the 2 batting line ups, Pakistan being the better one of course

still got to prove it on consistent basis ....

Their is only minor difference b/w the line ups

[qamar84]

yeah, come on selectors, let's fill our test side with guys like shahzaib hasan, humayun farhat, imran nazir, tariq haroon, and others just so mobashir doesn't get bored.

:14::14::))):))):)))

[Afridi_Fan]

Its boring thats why I have slept 5 and a half session in 2 days. Never happened before.

[Mobashir]

Its boring thats why I have slept 5 and a half session in 2 days. Never happened before.

Yes that was my point.
I have watched Ashes all night, then carry on with South Africa vs India test, didn't wanted to sleep.
Watched all previous tour in New Zealand Australia...
Now it's so boring that i just can't watch or have to force myself...

P S : I am in Paris : GMT +1

[Amjid Javed]

Boring? Who cares aslong as we get postive results!

[Mobashir]

Boring? Who cares aslong as we get postive results!

I do.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

It doesnt matter.

We are playing good, team cricket and no controversies are going on.

[ShehryarK]

Poll added :)

[Wanton]

So is the test cricket, the best test players right now are boring but effective the best example of Kallis.

[*sallu*]

Kallis is anything but boring LOL, its a delight watching him bat

[BoomBoomCricket]

I can see where you are coming from here in all fairness and seriousness.

However, I prefer this old style Test Cricket team with characters who are mentally strong, hard workers, determined, gutsy, have solid application, composure, calmness as opposed to a team with just pure flair, expectation, stylish crowd attraction and aggression.

The results have been overwhelmingly good so far.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Kallis is anything but boring LOL, its a delight watching him bat

Absolutely True.

The guy is class and his shots are sublime.

His flicks remind me of my all time favourite

:inzi

[*sallu*]

As I've mentioned earlier, my only issue with the side is the need for 2 attacking bowlers. The batting is absolutely fine the way it is

Ideally, I'd want either a good leg spinner or a very attacking finger spinner ala Swann in the side

And secondly, we need a proper test standard fast bowler. Problem with this is, we didn't have 1, we had 2. Hopefully both can come back soon.

If our bowling attack can get back to its usual standards, we will be a real force to reckon with.

[kkmix]

Its boring thats why I have slept 5 and a half session in 2 days. Never happened before.

who told you to take sleeping goli :akhtar

[SAM'S]

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[wiseguy]

Yeah, come on selectors, let's fill our Test side with guys like Shahzaib Hasan, Humayun Farhat, Imran Nazir, Tariq Haroon, and others just so Mobashir doesn't get bored.

:))) :))) :))) Well said!!!

[Friend786]

yes , but this is test cricket

[KSaeed]

The team itself is only boring because right now we are just dragging ourselves up from a slump- just wait till we tour West Indies later this year when our team is back on track and the controversies are put behind us and we can focus on our cricket more

[KSaeed]

yes , but this is test cricket

The test series against England in the Summer was brilliant- the Ashes are unbelievable and the test series between SA and India was excellent aswell

[liaqat]

i dont care if there boring,, boring is better than frauds anyday anytime,,,
in reality there not boring there propper test cricketers,,,
we need to win, no matter how it comes exciting or boring,
as long as its fairly done

[Zain93]

All of you supporting this are making something out of nothing.

[90MPH]

They are less exciting, but they seem more commited and hard working when you compare the last team a year ago. And the most important point us these less talented Players are not willing to sell their country for a bit of money.

[KSaeed]

They are less exciting, but they seem more commited and hard working when you compare the last team a year ago. And the most important point us these less talented Players are not willing to sell their country for a bit of money.

That's the big point that people need to understand

[On_the_up]

I'll take boring and committed over exciting roller coaster type matches which invariably end in defeat, and where being in a good position might be treated as an opportunity to make money.

[the SHA]

Yes. Very boring now. I look forward to Umar Gul's batting!

[the Great Khan]

Hunh?? Did yu not see taufeeqs batting!!?? How old are you?? I'm very excited by the test side..we are looking at a very stable lineup and we just need a young fast bowler who can swing it at pace..otherwise this is a good lineup..those wanting excitment should stick to IPL tamasha not real cricket!!!

[Saj]

So what some are batsmen who come in and score 20 off 15 balls and then throw their wickets away?

Give me proper test batsmen like Azhar Ali and Taufeeq Umar any day of the week, over those so called entertaining cricketers who can at best be labelled sloggers.

Sadly too many cricet fans over the world are being dealt a diet of t20 and 50 over cricket and have lost the true meaning of test cricket.

[Wasim_Waqar]

I agree with Saj

I started watching cricket in 1992 and tests is the ultimate for me as a Pakistan fan. An England v Pakistan test series is bigger for me than any ODI series out there excluding the World Cup.

What do you want to see- Afridi's knock at Lord's last year? It was a joke and test cricket is a proper game.

50 overs and 20 over cricket is a mere side show and some people need to realise this.

Give me boring batsman who actually know how to bat rather than big hitters in the test format of the game.

No wonder people think our fans generally are a bunch of clueless nutters.

[Paradox]

What do you want to see- Afridi's knock at Lord's last year?

In all fairness, that knock had me in stitches for hours. What a man :))) comes in to play Test cricket after 4 years, second ball goes for four.

[*sallu*]

In all fairness, that knock had me in stitches for hours. What a man :))) comes in to play Test cricket after 4 years, second ball goes for four.

I was surprised the first one didn't go for 6

Very uncharacteristic

[KSaeed]

In all fairness, that knock had me in stitches for hours. What a man :))) comes in to play Test cricket after 4 years, second ball goes for four.

only :afridi has the nerve to do that- did anyone even tell him that it was a test match?

[Wasim_Waqar]

Sure- and the innings required a more responsible attitude so that he could get to at least 50/60 by playing sensibly from there as he had the Aussies rattled. The ball soon landed in mid-off's hands

Aamer is likely not to get a long ban, I am sure Asif won't given his no-ball was barely over too: thus soon we won't be 'boring.'

[Rizz Khan]

You Guys Are Never Happy With Anything ! :afridi

[Amjid Javed]

I do.

Well go watch some other sport or just watch T20 games then.

I find your comments boring! :)

[RAZZAQ-FAN]

We are finally looking like a half decent test team in I don't know how long....and people here are talkin about "interesting" players.

We're winning, whats more interesting or important than that.

[JibranAnsari]

lol , lets see what result we are gona get after this test match. If we lose then it will be a torture. boring and losing :D

[hashbb]

I think its more to do with the crowd, for Example if we played in England, or Australia it won't feel that boring, wheras, we played in UAE and NZ, Dull Commies and almost No crowd
However, the thing i like about this team is that everyone can bat, the tailenders are almsost certain to score 30+ for you

[the saint]

only two guys play shots on this team, adnan akmal and mohammad hafeez. enough said, yet its better than getting blown away.

[Sledger]

Only the bowling but that's because of mass reduction in quality. The batting is stronger than what Pakistan took to England and just because they play 'slow' doesn't make it boring. Overall, I've enjoyed Misbah's tactics as captain, he isn't afraid to attack when he feels an advantage is to be had. He's got a lot out of what is quite a workman like bowling attack.

Looks like T20 overkill leads to this sort of attitude from fans.

[Gollum]

how boring for some of the 'fair-weather fans' in here!

no scandals, no sifarishis, no dramabazi.....i'll take this boring team...thank you!

[Theo_14]

I'd rather watch Pakistan win boring test series then win/lose test matches/series with corrupted players and full of controversies.

I mean this team does lack abit of swagger or that player that can lift the tempo of the game up - and ofcourse imo I think Aamer is the player who will brighten the side, add abit of swagger, excitement and colour to the side, I think that's what we're lacking for now.

As a 16 year old I love the longer format of the game - and I think some modern fans who are my age or older find it boring because they prefer ODI and T20 cricket - Ahzar staying at crease 2 hours is NOT boring it's called entertainment, that's test cricket, it's cricket.

[Blistering Barnacle]

The OP is boring.

Any true fan of cricket would appreciate the increased application of our batsmen.

Instead, it seems like this forum is inundated with immature and ridiculous posts.

[LegendsXI]

H no.

Just shows that if we can play professionally even with a depleted bowling attack, we have a proper chance in succeeding in the test format. I absolutely love the way our team is playing currently, especially the young batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job aswell.

We just need a couple of better bowling options and the team balance would be ideal.

I would prefer this style of play and the current lot, than the headless chicken type of batsmen.

[emclub]

The only exciting player in this team is :wahab........if Umer Akmal plays then you have 2 of them

[sunnykhan]

I agree with the OP certainly,

He is not talking about results. He is not talking about run rate. He is not comparing anyone.

The entertainment factor of our team as compared to before is very less now.

Because, we are missing the class of Inzy, yousuf etc etc.

The bad assness of akhtar etc etc.

[pakistan zindabad lfc]

haha cant believe you are complaining, for once in years we look like a solid team that isnt going to throw a game away in a session . . . we should be glad!!

i can easily see the likes off umar akmal and amir in this team in couple of years as the main players, so u will see plenty of flair with substance inshallah!!

[Sledger]

I agree with the OP certainly,

He is not talking about results. He is not talking about run rate.

:facepalm:

It's test cricket.

[GOAT]

Sure, its a little "boring" compared to faster paced ODI and T20 cricket. I might even skip an hour or two here or there, BUT I'm confident that when I come back the batsmen I left will still be there.

I'd say we're probably playing just the way you should on flat tracks. Take your time, play each ball on merit and go after the bad ones. Whilst I might be bored during a particular session or two, I'm usually pretty happy with the end result of the match. That, I think, is more important than a slow session.

[sunnykhan]

:facepalm:

It's test cricket.

Bhai mere, missing the class of some players is also the factor of our the boredom of our side.

OP mentioned some exciting cricketers in the end. And it's all about test!

[Theo_14]

Bhai mere, missing the class of some players is also the factor of our the boredom of our side.

Well one thing is for sure, your Shazaib Hassan would make no difference to the test side :).

On a serious note...

Like a thread has mentioned, this team is lackig abit of swagger - a player which brings colour to the side, excites the fans and that one player that comes in my mind would be suspended M. Aamer.

[Sledger]

The only player I can think of who you're talking about is Yousuf. I don't think his absense alone makes a team boring; if anything, the bowling isn't as good to watch minus Amir/Asif.

[GOAT]

Maybe he misses Butt and his fishing antics?

[cric]

Yes, they are boring, but very effective. same like england test team. not as effective as effective them, but some what, boring like them.

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

if boring wins us matches. then i love boring

[Digital]

Let them play proper cricket atleast now..without moaning !

[JibranAnsari]

The only player I can think of who you're talking about is Yousuf. I don't think his absense alone makes a team boring; if anything, the bowling isn't as good to watch minus Amir/Asif.

yah you are right , I think the overall cricket sense has improved in the team. The excitement and the charisma is missing which is not very important for winning test matches. As long as we are getting good results its okay. Yes it is boring still i am loving it as we are playing better. :D it will take us some time to get used to this team which plays proper cricket.

[hashbb]

I think this is the first time since 3-4 years, i have actually looked forward to our batting rather then bowling, i used to sleep through our batting for the past 2 years, and would stay up all night watching Aamir and Asif Bowl

[sunnykhan]

The only player I can think of who you're talking about is Yousuf. I don't think his absense alone makes a team boring; if anything, the bowling isn't as good to watch minus Amir/Asif.

Only yousuf was exciting to watch? lol

[sunnykhan]

Well one thing is for sure, your Shazaib Hassan would make no difference to the test side :).

On a serious note...

Like a thread has mentioned, this team is lackig abit of swagger - a player which brings colour to the side, excites the fans and that one player that comes in my mind would be suspended M. Aamer.

lol @ your cheap thinking. Bringing shahzaib from no where to this discussion. FYI, I never supported shahzaib's inclusion in test.

[sunnykhan]

yah you are right , I think the overall cricket sense has improved in the team. The excitement and the charisma is missing which is not very important for winning test matches. As long as we are getting good results its okay. Yes it is boring still i am loving it as we are playing better. :D it will take us some time to get used to this team which plays proper cricket.

Who complained about the results? We are happy that are team is heading towards some serious positive stability in tests.

The OP just said that the entertainment factor is missing which was the trademark of PAK team.

[Saj]

He is not talking about results. He is not talking about run rate.
So it doesnt matter that we are bowled out for 150, as long as the run rate is over 4 an over in test cricket.

I for one thoroughly enjoyed the Azhar Ali and Taufeeq partnership - it was test cricket at its best, good solid batting, technically brilliant and extremely focussed on the job in hand.

[sunnykhan]

So it doesnt matter that we are bowled out for 150, as long as the run rate is over 4 an over in test cricket.

I for one thoroughly enjoyed the Azhar Ali and Taufeeq partnership - it was test cricket at its best, good solid batting, technically brilliant and extremely focussed on the job in hand.

Again you are assuming or showing me the run rate.

Inzy, Moyo Yousuf and shoaib, asif or aamir. :P

The better class, the better excitement and the better results.
The excitement factor has nothing to do with run rate or results.
We have been an exciting team over the years with better results.

And i am not comparing Inzy, moyo or anyone to the current crop of players in the team.

[kkmix]

Shame, we don't give respect to hard working individuals, fighting skills are on display and that's what's exciting to see.

[sunnykhan]

Shame, we don't give respect to hard working individuals, fighting skills are on display and that's what's exciting to see.

lol. I don't know who insulted any player here.

[PAF]

Lol at the OP. Its been along time we havent been performing in Test cricket because of too many stroke and flashy players. And soon we started putting consistency in our batting,it becomes boring Lol.This is how test cricket should be played. The entertainers should stick to Twenty20 for the adventure.

[Mobashir]

So it doesnt matter that we are bowled out for 150, as long as the run rate is over 4 an over in test cricket.

I for one thoroughly enjoyed the Azhar Ali and Taufeeq partnership - it was test cricket at its best, good solid batting, technically brilliant and extremely focussed on the job in hand.

You are missing the point too Saj.
I am not talking about slow batting or quick batting. Kallis's strike rate is 44 but he is not boring. Our greats, Inzi Yousuf's strike rate were in 50's but were not boring... I, in the opening post clearly said, that even Younis Khan is not boring.
It's just the way the rest of the team members play... Their game is boring. There is NO CLASS in the way they bat...
Just look at Misbah lol.

Same for our bowling... How interisting is to watch Abdul Rehman bowl? Or watch Tanveer Ahmed bowl short and wide at the treathning pace of 125 with his usual 'houh'???

[PAF]

You are missing the point too Saj.
I am not talking about slow batting or quick batting. Kallis's strike rate is 44 but he is not boring. Our greats, Inzi Yousuf's strike rate were in 50's but were not boring... I, in the opening post clearly said, that even Younis Khan is not boring.
It's just the way the rest of the team members play... Their game is boring. There is NO CLASS in the way they bat...
Just look at Misbah lol.

Same for our bowling... How interisting is to watch Abdul Rehman bowl? Or watch Tanveer Ahmed bowl short and wide at the treathning pace of 125 with his usual 'houh'???


So you probably want the match fixers back? Atleast the ones that are playing are honest.
And thats what that counts.

[Looney]

:adnan is boring ? if you think yes then i BAN you from watching cricket in all formats

[Mobashir]

Lol at the OP. Its been along time we havent been performing in Test cricket because of too many stroke and flashy players. And soon we started putting consistency in our batting,it becomes boring Lol.This is how test cricket should be played. The entertainers should stick to Twenty20 for the adventure.

I didin't wanted to go in this debate about results... But as all of you guys are talking about results :

Our two best batsmen in the last 2 innings are Ahar Ali and Misbah ul Haq. Azhar Ali was there all English tour and he was performing as badly as everyone. He was so frustrating that the same PPers wanted to break their TV.
The other one Misbah Ul Haq was there last year in New Zealand and Australia and averaged 19, so was a lot worse than the attacking players. He was then dropped so was not in England.

It's not like we have a new team, it's just that the pitches are soooo flat that you can hardly be out.

Umar Akmal is a lot better test batsman than them. He has problems with his temparemnt, but records show that even with his temparement, in matches last year he was 3 times better than Misbah Ul Haq.

[emclub]

:adnan is boring ? if you think yes then i BAN you from watching cricket in all formats

:))) :))) Adnan Akmal ftw

[Mobashir]

So you probably want the match fixers back? Atleast the ones that are playing are honest.
And thats what that counts.

Who said i want changes?
I am just watching the matches and saying that our team is boring to watch.
To this you can agree or disagree.
If after every Tanvir Ahmed bowl you feel good then it's good for you.
If when Umar Gul and Abdur Rehman are bowling you are exited that their spell finishes so Tanvir Ahmed and Younis Khan come one to bowl then it's also good for you.

[SempreSami]

I thought Azhar Ali was the only batsman to come out of that tour with his stock intact.

[Mobashir]

:adnan is boring ? if you think yes then i BAN you from watching cricket in all formats

Lol, to be serious he is the THE entertainer.... :adnan

[pakcricketfan]

Boring?
NOT at all!

[LegendsXI]

people that want to get excited, just stick your fingers in an electric socket while watching cricket.

What the H do you guys mean by excitement? If its not runs or the results, than what is it?

I guess only afridi or shahzaib fans can come up with the answer. Pathetic.

[ShehryarK]

I thought Azhar Ali was the only batsman to come out of that tour with his stock intact.

Agreed and well pointed out.

People have such short memories.

[Mobashir]

Agreed and well pointed out.

People have such short memories.

That doens't make him a none boring batsman.

[sunnykhan]

people that want to get excited, just stick your fingers in an electric socket while watching cricket.

What the H do you guys mean by excitement? If its not runs or the results, than what is it?

I guess only afridi or shahzaib fans can come up with the answer. Pathetic.

Check out the post no# 90 plz.

[Theo_14]

lol @ your cheap thinking. Bringing shahzaib from no where to this discussion. FYI, I never supported shahzaib's inclusion in test.

It's funny how you never supported of Shahzaib being in the longer format of the game (which means, your basically agreeing with me) and yet you call it 'cheap thinking'?

And does that also mean that you'll find the test games slighlty more entertainming than boring considering your a big fan of him?

[Sledger]

Only yousuf was exciting to watch? lol

Of the batsmen missing, yes. Butt and Farhat sucked, Afridi isn't a test cricketer.

[kkmix]

I must say Salman Butt strokes were treat to watch. I miss his strokeplay not him.

[sunnykhan]

Agreed and well pointed out.

People have such short memories.

I have nothing against Azhar Ali. He has developed very fast and is a good player. I like him alot.

But after the England tour also. Many PPers criticized him and termed him as stroke less wonder etc etc. So mobashir pointed out this very well.

[sunnykhan]

It's funny how you never supported of Shahzaib being in the longer format of the game (which means, your basically agreeing with me) and yet you call it 'cheap thinking'?

And does that also mean that you'll find the test games slighlty more entertainming than boring considering your a big fan of him?

The team is more important. PAKISTAN is more important.

Shahzaib's temprament is not for tests at all. I support him with all my love to the formats he is suited. If he had the temprament than he would have been an exciting cricketer for sure.

Well, you deserve a huge round of applause for bringing shahzaib in this discussion. :14: :14:

Now better luck next time with some better logic and mainly sticking to the threads topic. Thank you :)

[Theo_14]

The team is more important. PAKISTAN is more important.

Your telling me if as I've been saying Shahzaib is the reason why cricket is boring or that Pakistan are a one man team.

Well, you deserve a huge round of applause for bringing shahzaib in this discussion. :14: :14:


Have a look at my original post again - I mentioned a sarcastic sentence about Shazaib and the rest of the paragraph was about the topic currently being discussed about, but funny enough you decided to expand the discussion about Shahzaib by bolding the sentence in my post and quoting it, so I guess most of the credit must go to you.

[sunnykhan]

Your telling me if as I've been saying Shahzaib is the reason why cricket is boring or that Pakistan are a one man team.

Delusional effects on your mind. Not my problem. Read my post again.

Have a look at my original post again - I mentioned a sarcastic sentence about Shazaib and the rest of the paragraph was about the topic currently being discussed about, but funny enough you decided to expand the discussion about Shahzaib by bolding the sentence in my post and quoting it, so I guess most of the credit must go to you.


lol again. Your one sarcastic sentence had nothing to do with this thread. So it was better for u, if u had written the rest of the paragraph only. Why Drag shahzaib when he has no link to this topic or thread?

One should stick to the thread rather than dragging anyone falsely in any thread.

[AZ]

chalo, Alhamdulillah, Pak fans ko jeettey huay bhi kisi cheez ke baray mey ronay ko mil jaata hai

[PAKFAN4LIFE14]

who cares as long as they dont lose

[JibranAnsari]

Who complained about the results? We are happy that are team is heading towards some serious positive stability in tests.

The OP just said that the entertainment factor is missing which was the trademark of PAK team.

ofcourse , I did not miss the point what op was trying to say. There is more satisfaction and less entertainment. I enjoy wins and so do the entertainment. So win win for me and for all other pakistan cricket fan.

[pakistanbest]

This team is boring and lacks the players that we are known for, the fast bowlers and batsmen who are good at hitting the gaps, however they are doing well and i got no complaints as long as they play well, play with passion, agression and a will to win, i will alway back the men in green whether they go at 1 run per over and 10 per over.

Well done to Misbah and the boys, this test team is going through a period of re-building and well, for once our batting is much stronger then our bowling, good times lie ahead for us :)

[1137moiz]

I don't find it boring at all

[Sledger]

Quite intersting tbh. Proper test cricket being played by Pakistan after a long time.

[1137moiz]

Taufeeq Umar. Not boring
Hafeez. Not boring
Azhar Ali. Boring but in a nice way, nice strait-laced youngsta beauty whose ma has raised him well
Younus Khan. Not boring
Misbah. Not boring
Adnan Akmal. NOT BORING
Abdur Rehman. Not boring
Umar Gul. Not boring
Wahab Riaz. Not boring
Tanvir Ahmed. Slightly boring, like the uncle who bowls at a panting pace in the driveway after Eid Namaz

Overall=not at all boring

[wasi90lk]

they score a bit slowly, yes. i think the run rate should be around 3.50 per over.

i would not say they are boring.

[JilaWatan]

Are u ever satisfied?

[JibranAnsari]

taufeeq umar. boring
hafeez. Not boring
azhar ali. Boring but in a nice way, nice strait-laced youngsta beauty whose ma has raised him well
younus khan. Not boring
misbah. boring
adnan akmal. Not boring
abdur rehman. boring
umar gul. Not boring(boring test bowler)
wahab riaz. Not boring
tanvir ahmed. very boring, like the uncle who bowls at a panting pace in the driveway after eid namaz

overall= boring

:d

[1137moiz]

:d
naah. Misbah, Feeqy and Abdur Rehman are NOT boring

[kkmix]

Taufeeq Umar. boring
Hafeez. Not boring
Azhar Ali. Boring
Younus Khan. Not boring
Misbah. boring
Adnan Akmal. NOT BORING
Abdur Rehman. Not boring
Umar Gul. boring
Wahab Riaz. Not boring
Tanvir Ahmed. not boring



fixed :D

[1137moiz]

Nah. Misbah and Gullaybaaz are not boring

[jeetu]

After a long time Pakistan is batting like it should in test and actually putting 300+ runs in an inning. Still complaints never ends.

[LegendsXI]

After a long time Pakistan is batting like it should in test and actually putting 300+ runs in an inning. Still complaints never ends.

Man let it go, its a dead end ahead.

[Mobashir]

After a long time Pakistan is batting like it should in test and actually putting 300+ runs in an inning. Still complaints never ends.

This is because conditions are a lot easier here that they were in england.

[FusedBulb]

The run scoring rate AND the over bowl rate are BOTH below average, slow and boring.

Watching pak play, and watching England, Australia or SA play is like watching Field Hockey and Ice Hockey.

We are just way too sluggish !

[Mobashir]

About 40% people think it's boring! That is already a lot.
And most of those who are voting "no" are voting this because they are happy of the results we are having.
So they also think it's boring but good.

[1137moiz]

About 40% people think it's boring! That is already a lot.
And most of those who are voting "no" are voting this because they are happy of the results we are having.
So they also think it's boring but good.
I find it exciting

[Mobashir]

I find it exciting

It's why i said most.

[Desire]

yes they are boring because there is no match winner. Nobody can win a game on his own performance. mohd amir was the only hope. long gone are the days of 2Ws

[James]

Afraid so. A lot of test cricket has become quite boring to me - many of my favourite players and the most exciting players have retired, been banned, or are on their last legs. Flat pitches are ten a penny. Winning the 2010/11 Ashes so dominantly was both satisfying and amusing, but it was nowhere near as exciting as the 2005 and 2009 series.

[TigerJat]

The team is very boring, there is no exciting player.

There is no real star in the team either. Our team is almost the same as New Zealand, where they have some good players, but no stars or game changers.

The closest one is Younis.

The bowling is horrific, only able to bowl out South Africa once in 4 tries.

We also need to bring in young new bowlers into the side, I would much rather see Junaid Khan in the side rather than Tanvir Ahmed

[Mobashir]

The team is very boring, there is no exciting player.

There is no real star in the team either. Our team is almost the same as New Zealand, where they have some good players, but no stars or game changers.

The closest one is Younis.

The bowling is horrific, only able to bowl out South Africa once in 4 tries.

We also need to bring in young new bowlers into the side, I would much rather see Junaid Khan in the side rather than Tanvir Ahmed
Don't say this here, you can be banned. People were so happy to draw the series...
But there was nothing to be happy...
We made the flatest tracks ever, NEVER tried to win, played the matches so no result is possible. It's why the series was drawn.
To me,there is a ver big difference between draing a series 0-0 or 1-1.
A 1-1 means both team were about as good because both won a match.
0-0 means nothing... It's better to not have a series tha a 0-0 especially in the conditions the matches were played.

[AZ]

have you been banned? why are you warning others then?

WE did not make any flat tracks, the curators for the grounds in the UAE were a white guy and an Indian, not Pakistanis at all.

please do some fact checking.

[Mobashir]

have you been banned? why are you warning others then?

WE did not make any flat tracks, the curators for the grounds in the UAE were a white guy and an Indian, not Pakistanis at all.

please do some fact checking.

This 'white guy and an Indian' were not under PCB?
Because we were playing at home so we are the one who should decide the pitch.

But even if we are not the one who decide the pitches, there was nothing to celebrate after the UAE tour as most of the PPers did.

[AZ]

no they weren't.

was nothing to celebrate, but surely we can be proud to having drawn a series against an extremely tough South African outfit with such an inexperienced team.

[Mobashir]

no they weren't.

was nothing to celebrate, but surely we can be proud to having drawn a series against an extremely tough South African outfit with such an inexperienced team.

They should be.

Ok, I was not proud of that series. This series was perfecrt to KILL test cricket.

[cric]

Afraid so. A lot of test cricket has become quite boring to me - many of my favourite players and the most exciting players have retired, been banned, or are on their last legs. Flat pitches are ten a penny. Winning the 2010/11 Ashes so dominantly was both satisfying and amusing, but it was nowhere near as exciting as the 2005 and 2009 series.

indeed, this ashes series one of the most boring one. all 5 tests were one hell of one sided, except for first test. which was most boring draw test.

[Mobashir]

indeed, this ashes series one of the most boring one. all 5 tests were one hell of one sided, except for first test. which was most boring draw test.

More boring than our second test agaisnt South Africa?
No i don't think...
At least the first 2 innings were very good, with hat-trick, the superd innings by Mickeal Hussey under pressure when Australian top order failed.

[Mobashir]

So what some are batsmen who come in and score 20 off 15 balls and then throw their wickets away?

Give me proper test batsmen like Azhar Ali and Taufeeq Umar any day of the week, over those so called entertaining cricketers who can at best be labelled sloggers.

Sadly too many cricet fans over the world are being dealt a diet of t20 and 50 over cricket and have lost the true meaning of test cricket.

So after 3 days in this test match we can safely say that the pitch was VERY VERY FLAT so far.
So my problem is not playing slowly on a difficult pitch agaisnt a good bowling attack.
But here we are facing one of the worst bowling attack on a very very flat track and we are making things like we are facing Mc Grath Warne...

[Mobashir]

I tried to watch today again but that was just too exitinv for me..
First Tanvir Ahmed bowling and now Abdul Rehman...

[dblock]

It's good just to have a functioning team after last years events..

[cricfan4ever]

this line up lacks 1-2 game changing batsman and 2 game changing bowlers...

get :umarakmal back in the side, back him and give him freedom to play his game he'll flourish...only ask him to utilize better shot selection and pick his spots than he'll be good to go...

as for bowling we are clearly missing :asif & :amir

overall, at the moment it's a decent test side...boring yes but effective so far...

only thing this batting line up lacks is the ability to rotate strike consistently and our top order can't play spin (Taufeeq, Hafeez, and Azhar)...so that's an area where massive improvement is needed...

[cricfan4ever]

however, I clearly understand where the OP is coming from...good points he brings up...

playing for draws is never a good thing unless that is the best possible way to avoid defeat and win the series...say u'r up 1-0, but all of a sudden get into a losing position where u must save the test to win the series...than it's acceptable...but draws should be the last resort in extreme cases...

if Test cricket wants to flourish in this era, we must have both teams looking to win matches rather than thinking about drawing it from the beginning...

and FLAT PITCHES should be banned...result oriented pitches should be made only!

[cricfan4ever]

I think the main point is that Pakistan compared to other top test nations such as India, SA, Eng, and Aus bat way too slow...

the standard RR is now @ 3.5/over for the most part...and our team right through out SA test series and now in NZ series has continually batted below a RR of 3 on flattest of wickets...and there's a reason for it...our guys can't rotate strike and top order can't play spin as I mentioned already...and the reason for so many dot balls is cuz we rely on boundaries to score runs...

[the SHA]

There isnt a single strokemaking batsman in this Pakistan team, barring Mohammad Hafeez. Frankly that says a lot. Not even in the Golden era of Test cricket has this happened.

Test cricket may be test cricket, but the modern era has been here for at least a decade now, i.e. when teams aim to score at around 4 rpo. Therefore when you have a team, in 2011, hell bent on scoring at 2 rpo, regardless of the opposition, batting conditions, match situation etc. I am sorry but that is just plain BORING and a default advert for the superficial LOI version of the game.

The only thing vaguely entertaining about Pakistan's Test cricket over the past 12-18 months has been its bowling. Come 5th February that may all change now too. Sad.

[1137moiz]

Younus=strokeplayer

Misbah=strokeplayer (and blocker)

Shafiq=strokeplayer

This thread=wrong

[the SHA]

Younus=strokeplayer

Misbah=strokeplayer (and blocker)

Shafiq=strokeplayer

This thread=wrong

Ok maybe this will clarify my point...

Pieterson / Sehwag / De Villers / Ponting / Gayle / McCullum / Umar Akmal / Sangakara etc... = STROKEMAKERS

Younis Khan and Misbah ul Haq play nice strokes from time to time but at a strikerate of 45!

[1137moiz]

:facepalm:

Issay proper batting kehtay hain. Even Inzamam and Yousuf used to play like this (though they rotated the strike more)

[cricfan4ever]

There isnt a single strokemaking batsman in this Pakistan team, barring Mohammad Hafeez. Frankly that says a lot. Not even in the Golden era of Test cricket has this happened.

Test cricket may be test cricket, but the modern era has been here for at least a decade now, i.e. when teams aim to score at around 4 rpo. Therefore when you have a team, in 2011, hell bent on scoring at 2 rpo, regardless of the opposition, batting conditions, match situation etc. I am sorry but that is just plain BORING and a default advert for the superficial LOI version of the game.

The only thing vaguely entertaining about Pakistan's Test cricket over the past 12-18 months has been its bowling. Come 5th February that may all change now too. Sad.

SPOT ON! agree 100%

[Mobashir]

I have to say today we were again HYPER BROING barring the two players i stated in the opening post : Mohammad Hafeez and Younis Khan...

[moyo13]

MObashir ,you shouldnt watch our matches if it makes you sad and bored, but on the other hand i think this sadness is due to our opponent.....NEWZEALAND never ever provided an entertaining cricket(from T20 to test cricket) as far as i'm concerned , lack of supporters in our stadiums may also be a valid reason....

[Mobashir]

I think it's a perfect time to bump the thread!

[Mobashir]

Younus=strokeplayer

Misbah=strokeplayer (and blocker)

Shafiq=strokeplayer

This thread=wrong

If these guys are strokemakers then who isn't in world cricket?
Azhar Ali is the only one who isn't a strokemaker in world cricket?

[AZ]

as long as they are the ones posing with the trophy at the end of the series I don't care if watching them makes my eyes bleed.

[BoomBoomCricket]

Go and watch IPL highlights on youtube Mobashir sahab

[Markhor]

What is this obsession with entertainment and tulla-baaz cricket, mostly by people fed by this constant diet of T20s and IPL. Quit looking at strike rates in a Test match, you need patience in a Test match and luckily the players have more patience than some of the fans. And most importantly, we are winning, despite the 'boring' brand of cricket.

[Mobashir]

as long as they are the ones posing with the trophy at the end of the series I don't care if watching them makes my eyes bleed.

Not whitewashing Banglasdeh is terrible result. That said, we still have chance to win the match.

[Mobashir]

Go and watch IPL highlights on youtube Mobashir sahab

Lol, I am sure I watch less IPL or T20 than you do.
Watching quality players like Dravid, Kallis play is not boring, but watching Azhar Ali, Misbah, Shafik etc.. batle out on flat tracks agaisnt Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and more mediocre bowling is boring!

[AZ]

Not whitewashing Banglasdeh is terrible result. That said, we still have chance to win the series.

STILL have chance?! we are controlling the game!

Test will be over before Tea tomorrow, I guarantee it.

[Mobashir]

What is this obsession with entertainment and tulla-baaz cricket, mostly by people fed by this constant diet of T20s and IPL. Quit looking at strike rates in a Test match, you need patience in a Test match and luckily the players have more patience than some of the fans. And most importantly, we are winning, despite the 'boring' brand of cricket.

Things that most of you have not understand properly: Our boring cricketers are not better player than the non-boring one.
These guys, Azhar, Misbah, Shafik are scoring runs in the sub continent and agaisnt poor opposition.
Watching them bat like this against bangladesh is not a good sign for Pakistan cricket. All three had chances, still strugled to make a good hundred.

[Mobashir]

STILL have chance?! we are controlling the game!

Test will be over before Tea tomorrow, I guarantee it.

Only because Bangladesh is batting quite poorly in the second innings.

[AZ]

achha yaar tum kya chahte ho, hum jeetne ke liye kya karein?

people now having a problem with HOW we win rather than us winning itself :facepalm:

[Markhor]

Things that most of you have not understand properly: Our boring cricketers are not better player than the non-boring one.
These guys, Azhar, Misbah, Shafik are scoring runs in the sub continent and agaisnt poor opposition.
Watching them bat like this against bangladesh is not a good sign for Pakistan cricket. All three had chances, still strugled to make a good hundred.
Our non-boring team lost to Sri Lanka in 2009.

Our non-boring team were whitewashed in Australia in 09/10.

Our non-boring team was beaten 3-1, bowled regularly for meagre totals and was accused of fixing in England in 2010. How can you say our boring cricketers have not been better ? We have yet to lose a series under Misbah's captaincy.

Let them bat the way they want, if needs be they will accelerate. Right now we are on course for victory, we don't need to be flashing every delivery for four and bowling yorkers every other ball to achieve this.

Boring or not, we are getting the results, that is the most important thing, not how we achieve victory. With more confidence, the batsmen will play more shots but remember our batting has always been our weakness, boring or not, over the years. We have always been prone to batting collapses. So this cautious, patient approach is understandable.

[Mobashir]

achha yaar tum kya chahte ho, hum jeetne ke liye kya karein?

people now having a problem with HOW we win rather than us winning itself :facepalm:

What I want? hmmm. Looking at the current performances:
Openers:
Taufeeq Umar
Azhar Ali
Both keep on playing like they usually play, Openers need to be solid. But you always adjust your game with the opposition you are facing, and the tracks you are playing on. On the tracks we have played recently, scoring at a strike rate of 40 is criminal...

Midle Order:
Younis Khan : He was never a tuk tuk, but has become one, he should play like he used to bat before Misbah.
Umar Akmal: Second best test batsman in the country after Younis, should automatically play every test and be backed to play his natural game.
Misbah-ul-haq: No comment!
Asad Shafik: Should play his natural game, and stop worrying that if he bats at a better strike rate than 50, Misbah will drop him.

[AZ]

well if you are talking about this track then I will list what I have seen:

- new ball swinging
- seam movement even with older ball
- turn

not to mention it is a slow wicket, not easy to play shots.

add to that our naturally cautious batting lineup.

[Mobashir]

Our non-boring team lost to Sri Lanka in 2009.
We have not toured Sri Lanka since Misbah has been named captain.


Our non-boring team were whitewashed in Australia in 09/10.
We have not toured Australia since Misbah has been named Captain. Misbah, the most boring of them all, was there in Australia and he averaged 25, 75 runs in 4 innings, with a 65*. (11 runs from 3 innings)

Our non-boring team was beaten 3-1, bowled regularly for meagre totals and was accused of fixing in England in 2010. How can you say our boring cricketers have not been better ? We have yet to lose a series under Misbah's captaincy.
Again, we have not toured England under Misbah's captaincy, but the best batting line up in the world, India, just toured there and lost 4-0
Azhar Ali was there, he averaged 26...

the boring one have done nothing better than the non-boring ones, Yousuf, Umar Akmal...

[Warfare]

Who the flip cares if we are boring as long we are winning?

Please, don't question the man with the MBA. :misbah

[Cover Drive]

Who cares as long results are there?

At least we are not 'Rockstars' :P

[NeVerMind]

Ask this question: When is the last time you saw Pakistan having a major batting collapse? I for one am not missing the days when you go to sleep with Pakistan batting at the start of the innings, wake up in the morning to see how the team has progressed only to see the other team batting (and finding out that Pakistan collapsed overnight)! And take it from someone who last saw them bat twice at Lords two summers ago on the same day! What Misbah and his team are doing is putting a price on thier wickets. They might not be accelerating as fast as we would like, but it is great to wake up and find that only 1 or 2 wickets have fallen and somebody is close to making a century. And if that is boring, then yes I am boring. Go Team Misbah!

[Nazmus Sadat Sohan]

bt getting result

[PAF]

Ek tu hum Pakistani bore boht jaldi ho jaty hain.

This team is wining, I don't want an exciting 200 in 30 overs all out!

[VTEC]

This Team till last year couldnt be relied upon scoring 300 Runs in an Innings

Now finally the Test Batting line up atleast looks solid and ppl r looking at strike rates -.-

[On_the_up]

If putting a price on your wicket in test matches is called boring then I will take boring, especially in Pakistan's case. This team might not be the most talented to put on a green/(white) jersey but they seem to be playing as a team and not giving it away every other match as the so called non-boring teams of the past.

The matches against England will give us a better picture of how good or bad this team is but you can only beat what is in front of you and that's exactly what these guys have been doing.

[Buffet]

There is nothing wrong in being boring. They are playing within their limitations and scoring runs.

[PakPrince]

actually the batting was always boring.. atleast we're making runs now before we ould fold up under 200 every freakin time so all the havoc would make us be tense and feel as if its exciting

but its the bowling which has suffered

[WalkingWiggett]

Under :misbah the batting is a lot more solid than before: only lost all 20 wickets in one Test under his tenure.

Bowling is relatively depleted but PAK bowling is never weak. The current crop can still run through opposition lineups for under or about 200. SL all out 197; NZ all out 110; WI all out 152 and so on. :waqar

[Gotham Cronie]

Anybody yawning?

:inzi

[munda_khi]

tuk tuk is so exciting