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shirazi_r
30th January 2011, 16:27
So I'm once again in the market for a new bat and I thought I'd made up my mind until I started getting suckered in by good deals all around. If you've used or just have an opinion of any of the following bats, your input would be greatly appreciated.
Keep in mind, I'm a top order/opening batsman and I have a propensity to steer towards lighter bats. What I'm looking for in a bat is: Longevity, Decent Middle, Exceptional Balance+Pickup.
Ideally, I'd like to keep suggestions to this list but if you have an outstanding pick, let me know.
The list:
-GM Icon 505
-Kookaburra Blade 250
-Kookaburra Rogue 200
-Kookaburra CCX 200
-Gray Nicolls Quantum Force
-Puma Barium 3000
-Adidas Libro Club
Help me out guys!
Cover Drive
31st January 2011, 02:35
CCX doesn't really have a light pickup and wouldn't recommed that at all!
Gray Nicolls, Puma and Adidas are not good either in my opinion.
So I'd say its a close call between Blade and Icon. I have picked both of them up and both have exceptionally light pick up and would be good for you.
Since you fancy Kookaburra I'd say go for that as that would be better for you because you like Kookaburra bats.
I know you're on budget so why don't you buy a Pakistani bat? In your budget I'm sure you can get a Grade 1 Pakistani bat.....please don't say these above listed bats are English made..
shirazi_r
31st January 2011, 03:19
CCX doesn't really have a light pickup and wouldn't recommed that at all!
Gray Nicolls, Puma and Adidas are not good either in my opinion.
So I'd say its a close call between Blade and Icon. I have picked both of them up and both have exceptionally light pick up and would be good for you.
Since you fancy Kookaburra I'd say go for that as that would be better for you because you like Kookaburra bats.
I know you're on budget so why don't you buy a Pakistani bat? In your budget I'm sure you can get a Grade 1 Pakistani bat.....please don't say these above listed bats are English made..
Most of the above bats aren't English made, you're right; however, i find that certain English bats tend to suit my style of play. The issue I have with Pakistani bats is that they tend to have a lower middle which hurts the pickup a bit. I'm aware there are Pakistani bats with higher middles (CA 12000, AS V3/V10 etc.) but I'm certain I'd like something English.
That said, I may well lean towards the Puma or Kookaburra as GM just doesn't offer what I'm looking for in this price range.
So now it comes down to two bats really, the Puma Barium and the Kookaburra Blade.
Opener
31st January 2011, 03:23
I have not used any of the bats in the list but based on reputation I would go for a Puma.
Cover Drive
31st January 2011, 03:23
Most of the above bats aren't English made, you're right; however, i find that certain English bats tend to suit my style of play. The issue I have with Pakistani bats is that they tend to have a lower middle which hurts the pickup a bit. I'm aware there are Pakistani bats with higher middles (CA 12000, AS V3/V10 etc.) but I'm certain I'd like something English.
That said, I may well lean towards the Puma or Kookaburra as GM just doesn't offer what I'm looking for in this price range.
So now it comes down to two bats really, the Puma Barium and the Kookaburra Blade.
Not most, in fact, all of the above listed bats are made in India.
Sounds fair, each to its own and I fully respect your opinion.
I'd go for Kookaburra Blade and would suggest that as well. Have seen Blade 950 and it is a gorgeous profile and would recommend it.
momin97
31st January 2011, 04:13
yeh go 4 what cd bhai is saying he is the man about this stuff
shirazi_r
31st January 2011, 05:39
Not most, in fact, all of the above listed bats are made in India.
Sounds fair, each to its own and I fully respect your opinion.
I'd go for Kookaburra Blade and would suggest that as well. Have seen Blade 950 and it is a gorgeous profile and would recommend it.
To be fair, all English Willow GMs are still made in England which is why I believe they command something of a premium.
On a more relevant note, I appreciate the advice CD and I'm almost certain that either the Blade as per your suggestion or the Puma will fit the bill.
Cover Drive
31st January 2011, 05:45
To be fair, all English Willow GMs are still made in England which is why I believe they command something of a premium.
On a more relevant note, I appreciate the advice CD and I'm almost certain that either the Blade as per your suggestion or the Puma will fit the bill.
Only high end GMs are made in England rest are made in India but finished in UK.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Puma old model?
shirazi_r
31st January 2011, 06:12
Only high end GMs are made in England rest are made in India but finished in UK.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Puma old model?
Yea, it's not the latest Puma but to be honest I could care less about model years. After all, my last GM was a 2010.
As for GMs, anything 303 and above is made using the CAD process, I can assure you. The Kashmir Willow bats are made completely in India however so if that's what you meant, then we're in agreement.
askmoi
31st January 2011, 07:38
i wud say go for the barium 3000
SempreSami
31st January 2011, 12:49
I've experienced CCXs that had a light pickup.
Although I'd go for the Blade 250 out of those.
Cover Drive
31st January 2011, 14:20
Yea, it's not the latest Puma but to be honest I could care less about model years. After all, my last GM was a 2010.
As for GMs, anything 303 and above is made using the CAD process, I can assure you. The Kashmir Willow bats are made completely in India however so if that's what you meant, then we're in agreement.
But the shape of your GM did not change in 2011 plus that range is still there in 2011 catalogue.
Are you sure ? I have hard that only Original and Original Limited Editions are made in England rest are in India...you could be right or I could be right.....
Quick Single
31st January 2011, 15:49
Whatever you do, do not go for Libro.
That bat doesn't even deserve to be on the market imo.
SempreSami
31st January 2011, 15:51
Yea, it's not the latest Puma but to be honest I could care less about model years. After all, my last GM was a 2010.
As for GMs, anything 303 and above is made using the CAD process, I can assure you. The Kashmir Willow bats are made completely in India however so if that's what you meant, then we're in agreement.
Then care less.
shirazi_r
31st January 2011, 16:35
But the shape of your GM did not change in 2011 plus that range is still there in 2011 catalogue.
Are you sure ? I have hard that only Original and Original Limited Editions are made in England rest are in India...you could be right or I could be right.....
100% Sure CD, all GM English Willow bats made for sale outside of India are made at their factory in Nottingham. The ones for sale in India are however made in India so that may be what you were thinking.
@Sempre, just "cared less". lol
SempreSami
31st January 2011, 16:40
Pretty sure Majid posted a pic of an Icon that he'd bought from OnlineStockist that was clearly different to a UK retail GM bat on another forum a while back.
shirazi_r
31st January 2011, 16:43
Yup, Onlinestockist is based in India therefore they sell Indian GMs which are not made in Nottingham using the CAD process, rather they are made India by hand. That is likely why they are different.
Knightrider
31st January 2011, 19:36
Only high end GMs are made in England rest are made in India but finished in UK.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Puma old model?
This is not so.
Edward Lowy, Group MD GM -- All GM English Willow bats are made in our own factory in Nottingham UK by our own very dedicated staff.
GM Kashmir Willow bats are made in India.
Kind regards
Edward Lowy
Group MD, GM
Cover Drive
31st January 2011, 19:42
This is not so.
Edward Lowy, Group MD GM -- All GM English Willow bats are made in our own factory in Nottingham UK by our own very dedicated staff.
GM Kashmir Willow bats are made in India.
Kind regards
Edward Lowy
Group MD, GM
Ahh okay, I mis-understood it big time
JazakAllah Khair though bro :)
Knightrider
31st January 2011, 19:48
100% Sure CD, all GM English Willow bats made for sale outside of India are made at their factory in Nottingham. The ones for sale in India are however made in India so that may be what you were thinking.
@Sempre, just "cared less". lol
Shirazi Bhai is 100% right.
SalmanK
1st February 2011, 15:43
What is your budget? We should start from there, rather than work from a short list of bats...
If you've made up your mind already, just ignore this...
Cover Drive
2nd February 2011, 02:56
So Shirazi Bhai decided on anything yet ?
shirazi_r
2nd February 2011, 03:04
Actually, I might just end up using the Icon until the season starts and then look for something a little nicer come April/May.
I've realized that a polycoated bat is not the worst thing to have in the nets, especially with those horrible Indian bat-breaker balls.
Cover Drive
2nd February 2011, 03:17
Actually, I might just end up using the Icon until the season starts and then look for something a little nicer come April/May.
I've realized that a polycoated bat is not the worst thing to have in the nets, especially with those horrible Indian bat-breaker balls.
Smart thing, I don't use my good bats in nets at all! I wanted to use Salix so I just used it twice and after that I never took it out.
Your club use 2 piece Indian balls in nets ?
shirazi_r
2nd February 2011, 03:24
Smart thing, I don't use my good bats in nets at all! I wanted to use Salix so I just used it twice and after that I never took it out.
Your club use 2 piece Indian balls in nets ?
No, we only use four piece balls but even then I find that the Indian ones are harder than usual. I've seen at least 3 bats broken in the last 2 weeks (mind you they were Powerplay bats so maybe that's got something to do with it).
Cover Drive
2nd February 2011, 03:33
No, we only use four piece balls but even then I find that the Indian ones are harder than usual. I've seen at least 3 bats broken in the last 2 weeks (mind you they were Powerplay bats so maybe that's got something to do with it).
Do you know which Indian brand balls are they so we can watch out for them ?
I remember in my old club a guy took his Sher Amin out and was batting with it for the very first time and the very first ball he faced, he got an edge and it damaged his bat.
Pakistani/Indian balls are harder than others because they are made for concrete pitches.
shirazi_r
2nd February 2011, 03:38
To be honest, there are so many strange brands that it's important to have a look and feel irrespective of the brand. Asian balls make a harder sound when bounced. Compare them with a decent Kookaburra and you'll know what I mean. Another sign of cheap balls is the lacquer, on good balls it slowly wears away whereas I find that on cheapies it cracks and looks as though there are many bits of lacquer left all over the ball.
straightbat
21st February 2011, 04:45
I have blade 950 and I would say it is the lightest bat I have ever had. I would recommend lighter bat only if you are an opener, one down AND you play on fast paced pitches. I think i made a mistake buying lighter bat coz I am a lower order batsman AND i don't like lighter bats. Blade bats are made for faster speed.
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