England vs Netherlands | WC'11 | Group B | Nagpur | 22/02/11

[ganeshran]

Good performance by the Saffers in Orange against the Saffers in blue

:)))

[Sledger]

I think England will still win this. Holland's big hope will be spin but I don't think they have the bowlers to defend this total. Good effort by them though.

[hazen_batti]

The World Cup is up and running and England are a mess again. Cricinfo :)))

[ganeshran]

agreed , its always nice to see good performance from minnows

Except when its against our team :)

[SIMBA]

Good performance by the Saffers in Orange against the Saffers in blue

Lmao

[duostyle]

Haha, it's England's game to lose.

The Dutch have put up a decent target, English bats are no joke and can/should chase this.

[Syed Ali Imran]

Looks like a collective bad day for us.

England will chase this but it seems like the luck fairy has slept on England's ODI fate.

[Amoeba]

Saffers?

The Dutch - even more than England, plus some Kiwis, Aussies & a Pakistani!

[ganeshran]

England scored 278 against Pakistan, so 293 should be within reach. But nothing can excuse their on field performance today.

[TNA]

Dew factor might be the only difference between netherlands bowling and englands batting

[Afridi_Fan]

And I read somewhere this England team is better than Pakistan.

[ace4rmspace]

292/6 Good total. About 25 odd runs short of a very good total and about 60 odd runs short of a reasonably safe total. Still gettable by England if they keep their nerve but after what they showed in the field, seems as though they've already lost it! My money would still be on England but ... this is cricket ...

[ganeshran]

Team A groups have it really easy to walk over to the next round. :(

[hazen_batti]

Saffers?

I think south African migrants to some other countries

[Markhor]

BBC Test Match Special's Geoff Boycott

"This is rubbish from Anderson. We talk him up when he is bowling well but this is absolute tripe. He's trying to bowl slower balls and off-cutters and it's not working. Just keep it simple, full and straight. His last ball was right in the slot - if you had one eye and a patch you couldn't miss that!"

[PerfectionPersonified]

imagine if this was pak instead of eng............how many match fixing threads would have been there?

[90MPH]

imagine if this was pak instead of eng............how many match fixing threads would have been there?

True, but we did have some match fixers though.

[style_guru]

Well Well Well, so the WC has finally commenced?

IMO, there is something really cookin up here. With all the credit to the Dutch, the Poms were just simply awful today. Wonder how many trillions must have changed hands today in the betting world?

I seriously feel for these Dutch players. A decent balling attack would've ensured a victory for them. But I've got a feeling that the Poms shall overcome this target within 45 overs. Poor Dutch. But a standing ovation to them :14:

[Muhammad Waleed]

Don't drag the match fixing in this thread.

Excellent performance by Dutch.

Terrible fielding by England.

And Above all else, England will largely depend on KP's start.

[starchild]

Bet365 is reporting the odds for Netherlands to win at 3/1, whereas for England its 1/4. Seriously? I am 80% sure Netherlands can win this.

[<< Rashid >>]

No Dirk Nannes for Holland, damn..............

[Robert]

Looks like a collective bad day for us.

Let's wait another three hours before we decide that.

Did Strausser win the toss and put them in? If so :facepalm:

You'd expect Strauss, KP, Trottski, Dingdong and Wobbles to run this down four times in five.

In any event this is the boot in the backside that England often need to get them moving.

[<< Rashid >>]

Wonder if England will struggle against the dibbly dobblers.

[Wasim_Waqar]

England should still win fairly easily.

A quick 80+ from KP and a good partnership from Trott will help England no end. If one or both go early, then a shock is on

[Namak_Halaal]

Swann's dropped catch summed up England.

First upset of the WC on the cards!

[style_guru]

Wonder if England will struggle against the dibbly dobblers.


Don't really think so. Not because the England batting is great, but mainly because the Dutch balling lacks the spark. At least two good bowlers would've set it up nicely for the Dutch. But cricket is a game of uncertainties so lets see what happens. My take: England win by 5 wickets.

[ads101]

It's funny to see all the Pakistani fans getting cocky, when England beat Pakistan a few days back.

This is just a bad day for England really, and some great batting by Netherlands. Could very well happen to us and that wouldn't be any laughing matter.

Abysmal fielding by England really. Anderson and to some extent Broad bowled poor. Swann bowled very well really, if he weren't in the team I'm sure Netherlands would have scored at least something like 320.

Anderson's had a bad day but I wouldn't do anything rash like drop Anderson and replace him. In recent years anderson has been one of the best ODI bowlers and should be persisted with.

Maybe England should have mixed things up a bit and given guys like Trott and especially Bopara a bowl.

Collingwood did a respectable job and a good batting pitch. I know this wasn't an overall good bowling performance, but I don't think bringing in Yardy for a batsman would make any difference. This bowling attack is very strong and they can't afford to weaken their batting line up.

[Ashraful_Rox]

Come on Netherlands, i am rooting from the beginning

[dabaang]

England is in shambles now.IWOULD BET ON NETHERLANDS WINNING THIS ONE

[James]

Netherlands won the toss, so at least we weren't making mistakes before the game started...

I await the resumption with bated breath.

[cricfan967]

Just woke up and holy crap at the score , England will have to bat out of their skins to chase this

[KingKhanWC]

:facepalm in the field from England.

Should still win this but there will be plenty of twitchy bottoms in England right now.

[arsalan660]

Bukhari to bowl first

[Sledger]

Just woke up and holy shi* at the score , England will have to bat out of their skins to chase this

:)))

[Abdullah22]

I hate ugly bowling actions + run up.

[arsalan660]

:four Bad Ball

[James]

oooo, we do have a very long batting lineup actually.

[Syed Ali Imran]

Boundary to start of the proceedings for Strauss.

[Syed Ali Imran]

4 more for Strauss.

[James]

two rather lucky boundaries :sachin

[Sledger]

Strauss already owning the Dutch.

[KingKhanWC]

Bit of seam from Bukhari. Anderson should be watching and learning. :))

[Markhor]

Right,play has resumed.

Good fielding there.

[KingKhanWC]

Dutch will outfield England for sure. :)

[James]

Bit of seam from Bukhari. Anderson should be watching and learning. :))

He's bowled a good length ball and beaten the bat, only took four balls. Jimmy couldn't do it in ten overs :))

[Syed Ali Imran]

4 more bad ball on the legside, very easy pickings for strauss

[TNA]

Where did PCB go wrong with Muddasir Bukhari?

[James]

Where did PCB go wrong with Muddasir Bukhari?

Dude joking aside, that was a pretty awful over.

[Sledger]

England already 'batting out of their skins', and Pietersen hasn't even taken strike yet. :moyo

[KingKhanWC]

Westdijk on. KP on strike.

[James]

first baller for KP?

[Abdullah22]

Where did PCB go wrong with Muddasir Bukhari?

We defienetly have better bowlers than him and beside that his action is not smooth to the eye I hate it.

[Syed Ali Imran]

Dude joking aside, that was a pretty awful over.

I second that, PCB has gone quite right but witnessing the first over by Bukhari.

[James]

or not, what a great shot!

[Markhor]

:4

KP with a good shot

[KingKhanWC]

Bit of movement in the air there but spanked by KP.

[Syed Ali Imran]

Boundary for KP!

[Sledger]

:)) Boundaries coming easily.

[Markhor]

BTW England have not seen the last of ten Doeschate, he can bowl too :))

[Watsupdoc]

England off to a blazing start!

[James]

Strauss and Pietersen look angry. Hundred opening stand would be nice.

[KingKhanWC]

If they can get their line and length right the ball is chirpping a bit.:)

[Sledger]

BTW England have not seen the last of ten Doeschate, he can bowl too :))

Well he is player of the year. :don

[James]

If they can get their line and length right

fail.

[Markhor]

Nasser highlighting the importance of Pietersen, : If KP bats 50 overs,England win

[Khan88]

Just woke up and holy crap at the score , England will have to bat out of their skins to chase this

Haha same...go Netherlands but England are still favorites here imo.

[Watsupdoc]

These Powerplays will be make or break.

[Syed Ali Imran]

17/0 in 2 overs.

[Sledger]

Half volley, driven but just one. Pietersen retains stike.

17/0.

[Watsupdoc]

5 off that

[Markhor]

Some drumming there.

India and the hosts in general have been very smart,allowing musical instruments to really build an atmosphere,learning the mistakes of West Indies 2007.

[TNA]

Looks like some certain ppl cant detect sarcasm

it was in reply to this thread:

http://pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=89300&highlight :P

[KingKhanWC]

Bukhari settled down now.

[James]

KP hasn't scored an ODI hundred in like ever. Good chance today.

[Watsupdoc]

ESPN live player showing the match (excluding UK)

[James]

Some drumming there.

India and the hosts in general have been very smart,allowing musical instruments to really build an atmosphere,learning the mistakes of West Indies 2007.

Good shout, agreed.

[Rizie]

come on bhukari

[Sledger]

These bowlers suck.

[ganeshran]

Ned needs some wickets..

[munna_]

they are in an attacking mindset .. playing too many shots already!
they mite lose wickets soon!
go bukhari saaab ....

[James]

These bowlers suck.

They do :)) unbelievably bad, not even county standard really.

[Sledger]

22/0

[KingKhanWC]

Good over. A couple more and the shine will be gone.:)

[Watsupdoc]

England in an attacking mood!!! :akhtar

[Sledger]

Pietersen misses out on a free shot.

[TNA]

Can anyone explain why Netherland dropped Nannes?

I mean he is allowed to switch his identity by the ICC. So why did the selectors overlooked him?

[Markhor]

292 is the 4th highest ODI total for Netherlands.

[ads101]

Holland's to lose IMO.

I'm glad Swann dropped it, it means Anderson finishes wicketless. Disgraceful rubbish from Anderson today.
I wouldn't say that. The stronger sides are expected to score at least 300 against these associate sides usually.

England are still favourites and Netherlands will have to bowl well to win even if England bat average.

[munna_]

this attack is lollypop for KP im afraid ..
n when hez on a roll ... theres no denying cricket looks more exciting

[KingKhanWC]

Flamingo shot :four

[Muhammad Waleed]

After seeing their bowling, I have started believing that Netherlands should have made 400 to defend it :)))

[Abdullah22]

125 km/h... Indian must be really proud now.

[Sledger]

Gets four now. Charging the bowler. :afridi

[Bullet Drive]

The Netherlands spinners will be doing a lot of work. England have this one in the bag though.

[KingKhanWC]

Keeper up good move.:)

[Watsupdoc]

Even 400 would not have been enough :))

[UP]

Cricinfo is not opening - can someone please post the score.

[Muhammad Waleed]

Hmm, Will Peitersen be able to break Afridi's record of fasted century. :O.

I can see it in this match. :D

[Abdullah22]

120km/h now, this is really embarrassing now. The beast can spin faster than that.

[Muhammad Waleed]

Cricinfo is not opening - can someone please post the score.

Netherlands 292/6 (50 ov)

England 28/0 (3.5 ov)

England require another 265 runs with 10 wickets and 46.1 overs remaining

[munna_]

good comments by shastri n hussain about promotion up the order .. something that pakistan cud have used 5 yrs ago

[Sledger]

Four more. Terrible bowling. :)))

[KingKhanWC]

KP making use of the field and new ball.

32-0 4 overs

[malakian]

It was an awful bowling performance. Tremlett in for Jimmy if he doesn't buck his ideas up.

[Watsupdoc]

England Run rate = 8.00

Pietersen to get out in 2 overs! :butt

[Markhor]

Truth be told,this bowling performance is not particular good.Bit of a let down but unfortunately predictable.

[Markhor]

Whats does that sign say ?

''We want 'palti' hit'' ?

Palti or plenty ?

[Abdullah22]

Bukhari bowling at 120s too is he really a Pakistani?

[Muhammad Waleed]

England Run rate = 8.00

Pietersen to get out in 2 overs! :butt

You must be playing fantasy cricket :P

[Abdullah22]

Whats does that sign say ?



Palti or plenty ?

They are asking for the sweep shot.

[Rizie]

Bukhari bowling at 120s too is he really a Pakistani?

Yes imo fastest in holland :P

[Muhammad Waleed]

Whats does that sign say ?



Palti or plenty ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on-CvD_kMsQ

[munna_]

Whats does that sign say ?



Palti or plenty ?

palti is more of a hindi slang word for flipping

[ads101]

It was an awful bowling performance. Tremlett in for Jimmy if he doesn't buck his ideas up.
can't do that unless someone gets "injured".

[KingKhanWC]

This is good captaincy keeper up stops KP in his tracks.

[MIG]

first baller for KP?

You obviously live in hope ( and glory :D)

Guys - open up the chat in popout mode and watch score updates and chitchat in both windows!

[Watsupdoc]

You must be playing fantasy cricket :P

How did you know? :O

[MIG]

Holland have done well with that score but defending it is another problem

[Markhor]

Oh right thanks :)) The famous 'Switch-hit'

[Sledger]

4 more.

[Watsupdoc]

:four

[KingKhanWC]

38-0 after 6 . Not running away it.

[Sledger]

38/0, England doing this easily.

[James]

KP is playing splendidly. Good chance to make a statement today.

[ads101]

Netherlands doing well to slowly pull the England run rate back down. Don't look particularly threatening though or taking a wicket any time soon.

[Muhammad Waleed]

How did you know? :O

It was a guess :afridi

[Watsupdoc]

Eng run rate 6.33

Strauss to get out in the 8th over! :butt

[Watsupdoc]

It was a guess :afridi

who's gonna win this game? since you are that good at guessing :yk

[munna_]

eng has a great batting line up :O ... even the no. 11 is gud enuff

[James]

The boundaries are coming regularly, and they are rotating the strike very nicely, particularly considering they are a brand new partnership. I've enjoyed it.

[KingKhanWC]

Bukhari with keeper back now. Should have kept him up to KP.

[James]

eng has a great batting line up :O ... even the no. 11 is gud enuff

well, not Jimmy :)) but it bats very well down to 10.

[ads101]

KP is playing splendidly. Good chance to make a statement today.
Something tells me Pietersen will knick one to a fielder today. I think Strauss will make a big score though.

[Muhammad Waleed]

Eng run rate 6.33

Strauss to get out in the 8th over! :butt

It's the 6th over and Pietersen is supposed to get out in the 2nd over :O

[Sledger]

Netherlands need :asif

[WNC]

Oh come on, this World Cup needs an upset.

[Muhammad Waleed]

Cricinfo is disgusted by England's Bowling

That's why they have posted this for the second time :)))
England have taken the molehill out of their mountainous target. But still a long way to go

[KingKhanWC]

4 off the last ball, shame it was a good over.

[Sledger]

You might get it tomorrow. :odoyo

[James]

The Dutchmen should have tried to get our dressing room stoned during the interval :asif

[munna_]

strausss .... pull n 4

[Watsupdoc]

:four

time for Strauss to get out. :butt

[Sledger]

Four more. Straight hit from Pietersen.

[munna_]

How did you know? :O

It was a guess :afridi


i have pieterson n swan in my team for today :P

[Watsupdoc]

Pietersen take a single or get out!

[Markhor]

Good comeback from England,was imperative that they got off to a strong start.

[Muhammad Waleed]

From here, England have already won this match time to go and do something else :D

[KingKhanWC]

Some good field settings by the dutch.

[Sledger]

England are batting well but I have to say these Dutch bowlers are just running in and delivering net throw downs. :)))

[Muhammad Waleed]

i have pieterson n swan in my team for today :P

Good :D:shahzaib

[Watsupdoc]

Westdijk to Pietersen, FOUR, woomph. That was travelling. A catchable height as Westdijk thought for a split-second about sticking out his left hand, but valued his digits more than a wicket

:))

[James]

Run rate is exactly right. Need to keep this up, don't get slack.

[Rizie]

I expect centuries for both openers

[KingKhanWC]

48-0

Dutch were 42-1

[Markhor]

Netherlands need :asif

Quite ironic considering Amsterdam is famous for its 'partying' zones :))

[Watsupdoc]

i have pieterson n swan in my team for today :P

no player of the year? :schikel

[Krishnan]

Run rate is exactly right. Need to keep this up, don't get slack.

Happy now?

[Rizie]

I have trott

[Watsupdoc]

50 up :14:

[Sledger]

Opening partnership is somewhat similar to Sehwag/Gambhir.

[Markhor]

51 partnership for England.

[Watsupdoc]

Can't wait for tomorrow's match

[James]

Happy now?

ish.

[KingKhanWC]

Very good over.

[Sledger]

52/0.

[ads101]

oooh England now behind the required run rate.

Game on :D

[MIG]

KP is on fire

[munna_]

no player of the year? :schikel

i had no idea who the hell he was until that comparison thread :P

[KingKhanWC]

Another good over. RR 5.3 now :))

[ads101]

To be fair I don't like Pietersen opening. Won't work against Strong teams. Out there he's always looking for the boundary, not for the singles. This start seems aggressive, but pietersen's strike rate is just low 70s.

I don't think it really suits him. T20 this could work, but I don't think this is the right tatic for ODIs.

[Sir john]

KP is on fire

30 in 42 is fire?

:20:

[Watsupdoc]

good over.

[Sledger]

53/0.

[Sir john]

53/0 in 10

[Khan88]

I have Pieterson and ten Doeschate in my team :sami

[ads101]

30 in 42 is fire?

:20:
Strauss is the real man on fire lol, he just doesn't look it.

Too much blocking from pietersen, needs to look for singles and rotate strike. He isn't doing that so well. He is hitting some lovely boundaries though.

[Sir john]

240 in 240

[MIG]

RR is dropping - I fear a KP explosion to fix the situation !

[Sledger]

Good little passage of play here for the Netherlands.

[Khabri420]

Netherlands need to get KP. He's been given too much of the same thing. As Nasser Hussain said, if he bats through, England will win this.

[Sir john]

Strauss is the real man on fire lol, he just doesn't look it.

Too much blocking from pietersen, needs to look for singles and rotate strike. He isn't doing that so well. He is hitting some lovely boundaries though.

i quotes to MIG.:po:

[Sledger]

Big wide.

[Namak_Halaal]

* England RR 5.23
* Bowling PP 2/0 (0.3) RR 4.00
* Last 5 ovs 21/0 RR 4.20
* Required RR 6.02
* Netherlands RR 5.84

[KingKhanWC]

Oooh. Poor throw, was gone for all money!

[ads101]

i quotes to MIG.:po:
Yeah I know. :)

Just giving my views on the situation.

[Sir john]

Netherlands need to get KP. He's been given too much of the same thing. As Nasser Hussain said, if he bats through, England will win this.

really?

[Sledger]

Don't think this is out.

[Rizie]

What will Sehwag do against Dutch bowler?

[Markhor]

Could be a run-out !

Nope,comfortably home.

[munna_]

I have Pieterson and ten Doeschate in my team :sami

how did u come to know that ten doeschate is as gud as tendulkar?? :D

[Sledger]

Easily in.

[Sledger]

Cut in front of square for four.

[Sir john]

ENG 63/0 (11.0 Ovs)

[Khabri420]

really?

Are you ok today SJ? :13:

Actually I take it back, if he bats for another 10-15 overs, this match will have nothing left for the Dutch.

[IAJ]

Req. RR is nearly 6 now and Ten Doeschate hasn't even started bowling :108:

[ganeshran]

KP out ho jaa..

[Markhor]

:four

That was a wonderful shot from Strauss.

[RehanG]

few quick wickets and..

[Noman]

Holland doing the right thing bowling strightlines...... But I hope Holland gets a wicket.. need to keep the run rate down..

[Sir john]

230 in 240

[Sledger]

Pakistan Kenya tomorrow. :razzaq

[KingKhanWC]

Manjoker "Good chance for Kenya tommrow, you never know with Pakistan ". :)))

[Sledger]

Sanjay - "Good chance for Kenya to get some confidence back, you never know with Pakistan"

[Markhor]

Nice pronunciation of 'Hambantota' by Atherton :))

[Sledger]

"If Kenya want to hope for an upset, Pakistan is the team that can give them that"

[munna_]

manjrekar giving advice to watch tomorrow's match ... his tagline : u never know with pakistan

[KingKhanWC]

Poor line and clipped for 4.

[hur rizvi]

Sanjay saying "If kenya have any hopes of upset PAkistan is the side"

[Sledger]

What a gift. Four more.

[Sledger]

Not such a great atmosphere in this game.. or maybe they're supporting the minnows?

[Sledger]

4 more.

[hur rizvi]

"If Kenya want to hope for an upset, Pakistan is the team that can give them that"

Looks like he's hoping for an upset tomorrow

[James]

this is painfully naive bowling to Strauss. you'd think people would have worked out that he eats leg-stump deliveries for breakfast after seven years.

[Watsupdoc]

:four

Strauss Hulk bulking the ball!!!

[munna_]

are netherlands bowlers even aware of the cricket rule that they can try to get a batsman out in an attempt to win the match?

[Sir john]

Are you ok today SJ? :13:

Actually I take it back, if he bats for another 10-15 overs, this match will have nothing left for the Dutch.

am well ok and fine.

waiting for tomorrow match. :snack:

[hur rizvi]

are netherlands bowlers even aware of the cricket rule that they can try to get a batsman out in an attempt to win the match?

their bowling is very ordinary even 350 wont be defendable wid this bowling

[cricfan967]

How sad it would be if Netherlands waste a match winning batting performance like that

[MIG]

Guys - chat open - have both windows open ...

[James]

:afridi -esque strike rate from Strauss

win by 10 wickets?

[Crucifier]

:afridi -esque strike rate from Strauss

win by 10 wickets?

Afridi operates (:raja) at 200+ friend. Cannot be matched :afridi

[Markhor]

Pieter Seelar on now.The fans chanting Seelaar ?

[ganeshran]

Netherlands please concede the match.. Ab aur dekha nahi jaata :(

[TNA]

No i dont think its going to be sad

Cricket is teamwork if the bowling is not going to contribute you know it defeats the purpose of the game

Their bowling is absolutely toothless, one-dimensional. Cant win a match with that kind of bowling.

[hur rizvi]

Left arm spinner into the attack ....

Danger time for KP :P

[ganeshran]

Afridi operates (:ramiz) at 200+ friend. Cannot be matched :afridi

4 runs off 2 balls? :afridi

[munna_]

i wonder wat wud doeschate be having on his mind at this moment looking at his other team bowlers :P

[James]

4 runs off 2 balls? :afridi

Haha :umarakmal

[KSaeed]

Ryan Ten Descharte starting an over- didn't he have cramp?

[strongman123]

Need to pickup wickets here, otherwise England might get away.

[Markhor]

ten Doeschate to bowl.

[Sir john]

eng batting very well here.

[Amoeba]

The Saffers looking pretty comfortable against a Saffer......and blow me......a Dutchman!

[munna_]

n just as i wonder ... he comes himself with the bowl to show how it shud be done

[Markhor]

Dr Botham giving medical advice

[ads101]

Quite frankly this hasn't been a good netherlands bowling performance. They've focused far too much on one player pietersen, while ignoring Strauss. Too many balls were bowled right where Strauss likes to hit them. Easy runs, no wonder Strauss has an afridi like strike rate.


This is an example of why you shouldn't focus on just one player (which the commentators were doing too). Strauss is a quality opener, and if you don't give him the same respect as Pietersen, he's going to tonk you.

[munna_]

50 for strauss :facepalm:

[Markhor]

England 95-0 at the moment,very comfortable so far in this run chase,the Netherlands do not have the wicket-taking bowlers necessary to cause any real damage unfortunately.

[munna_]

n the bowler beats everyone :D

[Watsupdoc]

9 wides in 16 overs...

[ace4rmspace]

Netherlands really need to tighten up here. After a very decent batting display, this bowling effort is a shame really.

[Markhor]

Big appeal,not out.

[James]

don't give him the same respect as Pietersen, he's going to tonk you.

this is one of the reasons why Cook and Trott succeeded against Australia. The convicts respected our 'top' players too much and ended up feeding our more understated players leg-side pies.

[Sledger]

What does KP dream about? Kevin Pietersen's nightmare = Asif bowling left arm spin.

[James]

Pietersen will be frustrated by this field. Six or out soon enough :afridi

[munna_]

every now n then i feel like they r talking to each other in urdu on the field

[Watsupdoc]

50 for strauss :14:

[JellyBro]

bowling has always been the achilles heel for all minnow teams. What they need is some good ol immigrants in their team :amir

[Markhor]

Netherlands losing heart it seems.Need to show some grit and determination.Going down without a fight here.

[Watsupdoc]

Is Seelar the only spinner Netherlands have?