England vs Netherlands | WC'11 | Group B | Nagpur | 22/02/11

[Abdullah22]

Guys it's an official England vs ten Doeschate contest.

[James]

100/0

going through the motions.

we should try and make this a really convincing win from here. net run rate could be vital.

[Watsupdoc]

100 op partnership :14:

[James]

reverse sweep for two from Strauss. cheeky :morgan

[Amjid Javed]

I think if the Dutch can pick up a wicket or two that they still have a chance in this match.

[Markhor]

:out

KP gone !

[James]

Lol.........

[munna_]

KP gone :out

[James]

catch!

[Sledger]

Left arm spin. :)))

[hur rizvi]

peterson oh another left arm spinner

[Watsupdoc]

:out :hamster:

[Watsupdoc]

left arm again :))

[James]

Left arm spin. :)))

I think he just does it deliberately now :D

mental...

[Markhor]

I've missed something here,whats this about Pietersen and left arm spinners ?

[ganeshran]

:out

[ganeshran]

Guys it's an official England vs ten Doeschate contest.

:))

[Riff]

England just seem too good for Netherlands in the 2nd innings. Great batting under-pressure, particularly from Strauss

On a side note- I bet Pakistan would have choked today

[Watsupdoc]

So spin gets the first wicket

[strongman123]

Pieterson goes, he just cant play left armers :moyo

[James]

Trotty comes in, he should solidify the innings and help us reach the tota....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Watsupdoc]

Strauss should take Tendulkar's advice and play till the end, even if it means slowing down :D

[pullshot]

go holland go

[Sledger]

That was a dreadful shot by Kervin tbh.

[Namak_Halaal]

Trotty comes in, he should solidify the innings and help us reach the tota....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

That's the theory. . . . .

[cricfan967]

One more wicket would put Netherlands on top here!

[James]

That was a dreadful shot by Kervin tbh.

one of his worst.

falling asleep already. <3 Trott

[IAJ]

The beauty with such a big total is that the chasing team can't relax for a moment, once they do that the RRR will increase.

[Markhor]

:))) Bumble is a legend !

Botham : Oh,why am I not surprised ?!
Bumble : 'chuckles',Eastenders,Emmerdale,Coronation Street, the lot !

[sada90]

netherland 292=6
can't believe it just woke up..
are we gonna see upset today
netherland 296-6
flat pitch????

[Amoeba]

What does KP dream about? Kevin Pietersen's nightmare = Asif bowling left arm spin.

We all know what KP dreams about......himself made out of chocolate.............so he can eat himself......yum......yum

[James]

'There was a tram crash on Coronation St while we were in Australia' :bumble

[Watsupdoc]

:))) Bumble is a legend !

Botham : Oh,why am I not surprised ?!
Bumble : 'chuckles',Eastenders,Emmerdale,Coronation Street, the lot !

:)))

[James]

We all know what KP dreams about......himself made out of chocolate.............so he can eat himself......yum......yum

excellent :))

[munna_]

this holland team certainly seems to have sum potential to improve their level ... just need to find a better bowling lineup

[Watsupdoc]

England would wanna keep the req run rate around 7 not let it go much higher than that.

[Amjid Javed]

9 wickets to go for the DUTCH! Come on! :)

[Riff]

Y'all think Pakistan would have choked today?

[MC]

Come on England.

Keep the scorecard running.

[munna_]

netherlands missing dirk nannes?

[Markhor]

Y'all think Pakistan would have choked today?

I think you'd have seen many 'that was fixed' threads.It would probably be too :))

[Riff]

How awesome is Strauss? Talking about being class in both formats of the game.

[James]

ah the middle overs in ODI cricket...so invariably, unbearably dull

[Markhor]

Wayward throw !

[sada90]

netherland 292=6
can't believe it just woke up..
are we gonna see upset today
netherland 296-6
flat pitch????
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[Sledger]

They should try to keep Trott in and on strike for as long as possible. :misbah

[Riff]

ah the middle overs in ODI cricket...so invariably, unbearably dull

I was expecting a better post than this from you whippy :facepalm:

[James]

How awesome is Strauss? Talking about being class in both formats of the game.

He has actually been up and down as a test batsman for some time, but can still pull a classy innings out of the hat when it is needed the most. As for ODI cricket he seems to be improving with age. A quality England player that will go down as one of their most successful openers and captains.

[Noman]

They should try to keep Trott in and on strike for as long as possible. :misbah

Was thinking the same..... Run rate over 8 will be fun..

[Markhor]

We are at the tuk-tuk stage.

[James]

They should try to keep Trott in and on strike for as long as possible. :misbah

:gavaskar

[Sledger]

:sachinDoeschate looks to be struggling a bit with his injury now.

[Amjid Javed]

England just need to keep picking up 3/4 singles an over and let the run rate climb :)

[James]

RRR 6.22 is fine for now, but we need a couple of boundaries to release the slight pressure that has been mounting.

[strongman123]

England is going to win this game, unless Netherlands can pick up wickets.

[Markhor]

:))) Bumble asking Ravi Shastri if they can watch Tommy Cooper in India and Shastri ''Well he didn't play for Glamorgan'' :))

[NeVerMind]

Bumble is a legend!

[munna_]

still a long of match remaining .. netherlands can create a panic in the eng batting through their slow bowlers .. who are now doin a decent job for the last 4-5 overs

[jusarrived]

RRR 6.22 is fine for now, but we need a couple of boundaries to release the slight pressure that has been mounting.

there is something wrong with the balance of your team . England will struggle chasing totals against big teams imo . Three very good anchors in Strauss , Bell and Trott , which is great ..but no one to finish off matches , a big hitter ideally ?

KP opening is a big no for me . Bopara should open instead , who i have seen play some good innings here in subcontinent , but even if he flops its not such a big loss early on .

[Markhor]

67 balls since the last boundary

[Amoeba]

there is something wrong with the balance of your team . England will struggle chasing totals against big teams imo . Three very good anchors in Strauss , Bell and Trott , which is great ..but no one to finish off matches , a big hitter ideally ?

KP opening is a big no for me . Bopara should open instead , who i have seen play some good innings here in subcontinent , but even if he flops its not such a big loss early on .

Well Eoin Morgan is obviously meant to play that role

[Markhor]

Nasser is brilliant : Netherlands lack the wicket-taking bowlers like Pakistan (the very first name he mentions),Sri Lanka,teams who have won World Cups.

Then he says ''You never know with Pakistan they are very dangerous,you can never write them off''.

[Rizie]

Love nass comments

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[MC]

How many group matches you are required to win, in order to qualify for the next round?

[James]

there is something wrong with the balance of your team . England will struggle chasing totals against big teams imo . Three very good anchors in Strauss , Bell and Trott , which is great ..but no one to finish off matches , a big hitter ideally ?

KP opening is a big no for me . Bopara should open instead , who i have seen play some good innings here in subcontinent , but even if he flops its not such a big loss early on .

Morgan is a big loss...

they're trying to do something different with KP to arrest his poor middle-order form and so they can abandon the Prior opening experiment. too early to tell if or how it will work.

I am just glad to see Bopara playing. Prior at 7 is also a potential success story on flat pitches...

the lack of a genuine finisher is worrying, but it's just bad luck with injuries. I would have had Morgan at six.

balance aside, there is no doubt that the batting lineup is strong and long (Bresnan, Broad and Swann late on), so we might get away with it.

[Sir john]

ENG 147/1 (27.0 Ovs)

[Sledger]

That's because Nas actually understands the game unlike most pundits. :bhogle

[Markhor]

Uh-oh Nasser now talking about India's bowling attack,Shastri make your defence !

[James]

Good stuff from :kallis

[Sir john]

ENG 159/1 (28.0 Ovs)

[KSaeed]

Netherlands really need a wicket now

[Dreamer]

After the first innings I was hoping for an upset. Doesn't look very likely now. Such a disappointment. I really do wonder if there will be any upsets in this WC. Looks like the bigger teams are much more wary of the minnows this time.

[Watsupdoc]

Netherlands is gonna lose this, but still a pretty good game.

[Markhor]

England need 129 off 127,a couple of quick wickets would really drive up the RRR and cause some problems.

[Watsupdoc]

Seelar and Ten the only bowlers who seem to be doing okay or well.

[Sledger]

Bukhari back.

[Sir john]

ENG 165/1 (29.0 Ovs)

[KSaeed]

Out

[Rizie]

Chaaa gaya mudasser

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[Markhor]

:out

Takes the catch !

[USM17N]

Out

[Sledger]

Strauss has thrown it away.

[munna_]

straus :out:

[cricfan967]

:D Netherlands in this still! It's gonna be a thriller

[Strike!]

:out

[Watsupdoc]

:out Bukhari the man!

[Sledger]

Bell in.


..d

[Saqib]

The Netherlands finaly strike

Straus out on 88

England 166/2

[James]

Poor shot.

Bell is actually not much of an ODI player, he's just a minnow basher in ODIs. This could suit him.

[Rana]

Thats a huge wicket.

[kashmiri_lad]

Indian crowd supporting the Dutch team...

[munna_]

well done bukhari saab ..
i can bet u didn't plan that bowl u excellent thrower :D

[kashmiri_lad]

These singles are boring the hell out of me..
Dutch team should keep some pressure going.

[Sledger]

What a beasty medium pacer. :)))

[James]

I want to see Colly bat. Let's see if he really is back in form or not. He is still such an important player for us in ODIs (batting, bowling and fielding-wise)

[Markhor]

One more wicket and it could be on...

[ads101]

oh no Strauss out :(


Come on Bell. Give us at least one good innings since your comeback to ODI cricket.

[Watsupdoc]

ah the middle overs in ODI cricket...so invariably, unbearably dull

stick to T20 in that case :)

[Fawad_Bhai]

It would be amazing if Netherlands UPSET the England team. :D They've done it in t20 2009, can they do it now??

[lumber121]

one more wicket, come on U Dutch:danish:danish...

[Markhor]

Mudassar Bukhari,the Dutch seamer was born in Gujrat,Punjab in Pakistan ;-)

[kashmiri_lad]

Singles are coming so easily..

[cricfan967]

These next overs will be crucial, Netherlands have to get RRR up

[James]

stick to T20 in that case :)

There's a serious point to be made here. The future of the World Cup and possibly even ODI cricket as a whole is dubious. The middle overs are one of the reasons for this.

[kashmiri_lad]

Finally a dot BALL..

[kashmiri_lad]

Another DOT ball..

[cricfan967]

RRR jumping up :D

[Rana]

Trott holds the key. If he goes, England could well crumble.

[Watsupdoc]

There's a serious point to be made here. The future of the World Cup and possibly even ODI cricket as a whole is dubious. The middle overs are one of the reasons for this.

Do you wanna see boom boom bash bash in the middle overs as well?

ODI is a mix of T20 and test cricket...

[Sledger]

If Trott goes, England will be favourites. He also made a hundred when England lost to BD iirc lolz.

[cricfan967]

It will be a tight finish, Netherlands won the tight finish in t20 let's hope they do it again

[kashmiri_lad]

Common DUTCH ...take one more wicket..

[James]

If Trott goes, England will be favourites. He also made a hundred when England lost to BD iirc lolz.

a 94. but yes, hard to tell whether or not his continued presence at the crease is a good thing or not :D

[lumber121]

There r quite few Pakistani origin bowlers playing in teams like Eng, Canada, Netherlands etc.. good stuff

[ads101]

Trott holds the key. If he goes, England could well crumble.
Or the key for Netherlands, if he repeats his Bangladesh heroics and refuses to accelerate to chase a score.

[Dreamer]

What speeds does M. Bukhari bowl at?

[ads101]

a 94. but yes, hard to tell whether or not his continued presence at the crease is a good thing or not :D
I think he's learnt from that experience. Hopefully anyway :D

[Watsupdoc]

Req RR 6.5

[Rana]

This is the time for Holland, make another one slip.

Key moments of the game coming up...

[munna_]

at least we are seeing a proper contest of bat and bowl for the 1st time in this tournament

[Strike!]

This is some pretty ordinary bowling.

[James]

at least we are seeing a proper contest of bat and bowl for the 1st time in this tournament

yes, average bowling and average batting :D (except Strauss)

[Sledger]

The only way England will lose is if they lose 7 more wickets and have Anderson in.

Not happening against this attack. Game was sealed when Strauss/Pietersen got off to the start they did.

[Watsupdoc]

Is Borren a batsman or he bowls as well?

[Watsupdoc]

England right on the tail. When will they overtake?

[Sledger]

Problem for England, though, is there NRR won't be great after this game. That shouldn't factor into things anyway unless we see some surprise results but still..

[Rana]

Another good over. If the required rr is 7.5 in the eb=ngland power play... holland can work with this!

[munna_]

seelar is back into attack .... now lets see how does these 2 nudgers play him

[ads101]

I just don't like this partnership of Bell and Trott. It just doesn't feel right. It'd be a great test partnership but not ODI. Both tend to slow down in the middle overs. This is just going to create pressure on England and slow down the run rate I feel. Pietersen should be at 4.

Send Bell to open is the right move I feel.

[Rana]

Get that Trod back in the changing room!

[Sledger]

True, they miss Morgan to give their middle order dimension. I think Trott could easily be bogged down by better spinners in these conditions.

I had England down as SFists before but with this combo, I think the better attacks could expose their batting. Bowling is slightly over-rated.

[Watsupdoc]

I just don't like this partnership of Bell and Trott. It just doesn't feel right. It'd be a great test partnership but not ODI. Both tend to slow down in the middle overs. This is just going to create pressure on England and slow down the run rate I feel. Pietersen should be at 4.

Send Bell to open is the right move I feel.

KP will fall to left arm spinners quicker then...

[Watsupdoc]

Req RR still manageable, under 7.

[jusarrived]

Morgan is a big loss...

they're trying to do something different with KP to arrest his poor middle-order form and so they can abandon the Prior opening experiment. too early to tell if or how it will work.

I am just glad to see Bopara playing. Prior at 7 is also a potential success story on flat pitches...

the lack of a genuine finisher is worrying, but it's just bad luck with injuries. I would have had Morgan at six.

balance aside, there is no doubt that the batting lineup is strong and long (Bresnan, Broad and Swann late on), so we might get away with it.

yup Morgan was a big loss .

The batting looks solid , which i agree ...but not scary . Eng will need to post/chase totals of 320+ at some point , which they will struggle to do I think .

[munna_]

these 2 are helping ned a great deal :d

[Sledger]

Casual fielding. Good running.

[Watsupdoc]

5 off that. Req RR climbing.

[Rana]

As long as the over finishes behind the run rate.



Now, If Holland has a bowler who has overs left and has practiced his reverse swinging yorkers.....UNLEASH HIM.

[jusarrived]

I just don't like this partnership of Bell and Trott. It just doesn't feel right. It'd be a great test partnership but not ODI. Both tend to slow down in the middle overs. This is just going to create pressure on England and slow down the run rate I feel. Pietersen should be at 4.

Send Bell to open is the right move I feel.

Bell and Trott very solid players , for ODI's & more importantly they play well under pressure .

[munna_]

are they seriously chasing more than 6.5 RR ? :13:

[ads101]

KP will fall to left arm spinners quicker then...
no he won't, he never did in the past. He gets out to left arm spinners mostly because he's over confident and plays a stupid shot.

He got out to a rubbish delivery again as an opener.

The problem is to do with his position. It's a mental thing. He's always been prone to giving his wicket away, but these days in limited overs he goes after bowlers to much, tries to bang the first ball of the over, goes after too many balls, always going for the boundary instead of the singles. It's frustrating. Pietersen needs to fix this problem and quick. In his prime he was of the best no.4 ODI batsman in the world at that time.

[Amoeba]

The Warks players are doing fine. Even 80 off the last 10 with 8 wickets in hand is more than comfortable. So I think Trott will have a pop once the RRR goes above 7

[Rana]

Another good over for holland.....keep it up!

[ads101]

Bell and Trott very solid players , for ODI's & more importantly they play well under pressure .
They are. I'm a huge fan of Bell.

But with 2 wickets down and 150+ on the scoreboard, they aren't the ideal players to be at the crease. One of them maximum. A bit of aggressive hitting and quick scoring would have taken the game out of the hands of Netherlands completely.

If England are in trouble e.g. 50-4 then I couldn't think of two better batsman at the crease. But that's not the case nor will be if Bell's coming in at 4.

[KSaeed]

Great shot for four

[Amoeba]

Right on cue!

[talha3]

England's game to lose from here.

[jusarrived]

They are. I'm a huge fan of Bell.

But with 2 wickets down and 150+ on the scoreboard, they aren't the ideal players to be at the crease. One of them maximum. A bit of aggressive hitting and quick scoring would have taken the game out of the hands of Netherlands completely.

If England are in trouble e.g. 50-4 then I couldn't think of two better batsman at the crease. But that's not the case nor will be if Bell's coming in at 4.

Like i said earlier , the problem is not Bell or Trott , but lack of a big hitter down the order .Though I agree KP should not be opening .

[jusarrived]

are they seriously chasing more than 6.5 RR ? :13:

it not 12.5 yar

[mastermind_quad]

96 runs 14 overs 8 wickets and Batting PP left ...it'll be easy for England ....

[James]

KP should ideally be 4 in ODIs and 5 in tests.

[munna_]

watever might be the result... eng have under performed n will put them under immense pressure for their game against india ... although its still early days, but we've seen sum weak points in their bowling already ... n perhaps fielding too

[Rana]

Brillian break for Holland.

They can make a plan from here on.

[Rana]

Holland need to disrupt Trott. P**s him off a bit. Give it large to England!

They can certainly expect something to change for them.

[kashmiri_lad]

Couple of DOTs coming up here and there..

[lumber121]

Indians r losing it,,jeeezz
Oh man that world cup song sang by indians is pathetic,,,bakwaas,,,
wots "day guma kay" I thought it was associated as slang to slap some one or punch someone...

[mastermind_quad]

KP should ideally be 4 in ODIs and 5 in tests.

why no cook ...he played well last series in Sub continent (Bangladesh) ....???

[Rana]

7 runs rr!!!

[Amjid Javed]

Come on england more dot balls please :)

[strongman123]

Another five (5) overs and then they should start attacking, and finish the game up.

[mastermind_quad]

Indians r losing it,,jeeezz
Oh man that world cup song sang by indians is pathetic,,,bakwaas,,,
wots "day guma kay" I thought it was associated as slang to slap some one or punch someone...

mute the TV set ...No issue @ All....;-)

[James]

Cook will go down as one of England's best ever test match openers, but he is probably too slow for ODIs.

[KSaeed]

Rate is creeping up with every dot ball- netherlands need to keep this up and get a wicket or two to really pile the pressure on England

[ads101]

Like i said earlier , the problem is not Bell or Trott , but lack of a big hitter down the order .Though I agree KP should not be opening .
I agree with you.

But England in general have never really had bigger hitters down the order. They've always gone with the likes of Pietersen who is a big hitter coming in, in the middle orders. That's their style of play. Promoting Pietersen to opening means there's no big hitters at all coming in after opening. Maybe they should look into a big hitter though.

England don't play this sort of game where they consolidate and then go for the big shots near the end of the innings. They like to bat through the order, everyone contributing keeping the scoreboard ticking with singles and the occasional boundary.


There's nothing wrong with Trott, Bell or Collingwood. All fine ODI batsmen. But playing them together is a worry. They all do pretty much the same job. They're not players who can potentially chase you big scores after a shaky start.

[Watsupdoc]

After this stirring performance England must be a safe bet for the final. Have a go at predicting the outcome of the World Cup with our predictor game

:))

[Rana]

Brilliant over by loots.

[Watsupdoc]

Req RR: 7.15

Still very doable.

[mastermind_quad]

Bopara is a good hitter .....but very avg player ....:D

[kashmiri_lad]

I think, Holland should keep these two for another 5-6 overs..
Run Rate's gonna creep up...and then they can put pressure on new batsmen..

[Rana]

Cook will go down as one of England's best ever test match openers, but he is probably too slow for ODIs.

He is mainly aggressive on the leg side anyways. If he can show some agression on the off and down the track, we can see him up there with straussy.

KP is a no.4. He gives a much needed deapth to that line up.

[mastermind_quad]

Cook will go down as one of England's best ever test match openers, but he is probably too slow for ODIs.

but cook to open and KP @ 4 or 5 is best option i think as no Flintoff for late hitting

[Amjid Javed]

Singles are fine aslong as there are no boundaries.

[Watsupdoc]

6 off five balls so far

[KingKhanWC]

A couple of wickets here and this could be a close finish.

[Watsupdoc]

7 off that. Good enough for England.

[James]

86 off 72 required.

[KingKhanWC]

Strike bowler back on. :akhtar

[mastermind_quad]

8 wicket left ...should be no problem to chase this

[Taurus]

The problem with England is the lack of . . . everything. Who are the really good ODI players in this team? Pietersen . . . on his day, whenever that is. Trott's a good batsman but he's one good batsman, and he's not going to decimate the opposition. Graeme Swann is the only one who is a top ODI player. The rest of the players are poor, and were chosen over BETTER players who are right now sat at home watching us struggling to overcome Holland. Okay, so it looks like we'll win, but what difference does it make? We're not looking a very good bet to get beyond the quarter-finals at all, and given our ODI form at present it's not impossible to conceive of a situation in which we fail to make it that far. I honestly thought this team had turned some corners, but that was proven wrong when Flower and the selectors picked a poor squad, including players who can only be described as 'favourites' (see Luke Wright, Michael Yardy and James Tredwell, who continue to pick up international caps that they would struggle to win if they were Bangladeshi), for this World Cup. Hopefully, they're looking at the likes of Steve Davies, Samit Patel, James Taylor, James Hildreth and Alex Hales to come into this side (again, in some cases) in the future.

[munna_]

many eng supporters present in the ground ..
i wonder if pakistanis will spare sum holidays for a wc :13:

larry, zee, rizwan etc perhaps?

[NJamal]

44444444444444 Trott

[James]

The Netherlands opening bowlers are village.

[mastermind_quad]

:4our

[jusarrived]

85 of last 10 with 6 wickets in hand is is easily done . Cant see how Eng can lose this one .

[mastermind_quad]

many eng supporters present in the ground ..
i wonder if pakistanis will spare sum holidays for a wc :13:

larry, zee, rizwan etc perhaps?

good crowd for this match too...:D

[Watsupdoc]

1 4 per over is all England needs

[mastermind_quad]

England require another 78 runs with 8 wickets and 11.0 overs remaining

[Amjid Javed]

78 needed from 66.

Dutch need a wicket or even two here!

[KingKhanWC]

many eng supporters present in the ground ..
i wonder if pakistanis will spare sum holidays for a wc :13:

larry, zee, rizwan etc perhaps?

Pak Brits are not welcome in India.

Come on take the powerplay and finish this.

[NJamal]

215/2 after 39 overs

[James]

Taurus, Broad is a good ODI player as well. Trott, KP, Morgan, Broad and Swann is a genuine backbone for a one-day side. Who would you have chosen? Owais Shah is probably closer to the side after England's rubbish season in ODIs. I'm glad that Bopara has been brought back, very talented.

[mastermind_quad]

Req Rate down to 7.01

[lumber121]

[QUOTE=mastermind_quad;3485209]mute the TV set ...No issue @ All....;-)[/QU

Im doin that now coz its so ridiculous bollywood bakwaas, but some time advert gets me off guard.. any how pak losing n this song keeps playing to irritate me further...I don't know wot ill do:po::po:

[jusarrived]

Pak Brits are not welcome in India.

Come on take the powerplay and finish this.

isnt Pak playing is matches in SL ?

[ads101]

The problem with England is the lack of . . . everything. Who are the really good ODI players in this team? Pietersen . . . on his day, whenever that is. Trott's a good batsman but he's one good batsman, and he's not going to decimate the opposition. Graeme Swann is the only one who is a top ODI player. The rest of the players are poor, and were chosen over BETTER players who are right now sat at home watching us struggling to overcome Holland. Okay, so it looks like we'll win, but what difference does it make? We're not looking a very good bet to get beyond the quarter-finals at all, and given our ODI form at present it's not impossible to conceive of a situation in which we fail to make it that far. I honestly thought this team had turned some corners, but that was proven wrong when Flower and the selectors picked a poor squad, including players who can only be described as 'favourites' (see Luke Wright, Michael Yardy and James Tredwell, who continue to pick up international caps that they would struggle to win if they were Bangladeshi), for this World Cup. Hopefully, they're looking at the likes of Steve Davies, Samit Patel, James Taylor, James Hildreth and Alex Hales to come into this side (again, in some cases) in the future.
I don't follow county cricket so much. I don't know which batsmen they could have chosen over the batsmen they have now. Ok some are out of form, but they didn't really have a choice. Bopara has been picked after all anyway after a good period of domestic cricket. Which batsmen would you choose over these? I'd be interested to know.

Maybe Pietersen needs a break from international cricket. He's never looked like the same player he once was after giving up captaincy. I hoped he'd rediscover that form, but it's not looking good.

Yardy, Tredwell, Wright I agree no idea why they're in the squad. Tremlett should have been in the actual squad.

I still think the bowling attack is top notch. Broad and Swann are some of the best ODI bowlers in cricket today.

[NJamal]

222/2 after 40 overs

[mastermind_quad]

8 runs from last over

[NJamal]

Batting PP taken

[KingKhanWC]

isnt Pak playing is matches in SL ?

They won't move the final to Lanka. :)

Powerplay taken, should be all over in a few overs.

[mastermind_quad]

[QUOTE=mastermind_quad;3485209]mute the TV set ...No issue @ All....;-)[/QU

Im doin that now coz its so ridiculous bollywood bakwaas, but some time advert gets me off guard.. any how pak losing n this song keeps playing to irritate me further...I don't know wot ill do:po::po:

plz switch off it ......don't try to be Ponting....;-)

[ads101]

Remarkable how Bell has only scored in singles so far.

[Watsupdoc]

too easy for trott

[Amjid Javed]

71 needed from 60.

Pretty much PP will decide the game i recon.

Dutch need to keep things tight! they should be proud of their effort so far!

[Watsupdoc]

71 in last 10 overs. Easy peasy

[MC]

Come on England.

Go bonkers now!!

[mastermind_quad]

Its already decided AJ ...dutch to loose...:)

[ads101]

What a strange field.

[Taurus]

Taurus, Broad is a good ODI player as well. Trott, KP, Morgan, Broad and Swann is a genuine backbone for a one-day side. Who would you have chosen? Owais Shah is probably closer to the side after England's rubbish season in ODIs. I'm glad that Bopara has been brought back, very talented.

I'd have picked Samit Patel, for a start, fat or not. A spin-bowling all-rounder, on the sub-continent, it's a pretty easy choice. Steve Davies should have gone - as a specialist batsman, if necessary. He averages mid-30s opening the batting in domestic one-day games. Who else does? (not a lot of players is the answer - Alex Hales is the only other one I can find, although I expect Trescothick does, but he can't really be counted)

[Sledger]

Equation is a very easy one. Not sure why people are getting tense over a 7req rate with a PP left.

[Amjid Javed]

Its already decided AJ ...dutch to loose...:)

:) Hope your wrong!

[NJamal]

OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Trott

[James]

stumped off a wide, very nice wicketkeeping. don't see that often.

[Sledger]

Actually they've now taken the PP. :trott

[KSaeed]

Trotts gone

[KingKhanWC]

Great stumping!

One more quickly and game on. :)

[mastermind_quad]

Common Bell....

show some of those beautiful drives ...:D

[ads101]

Trott out :facepalm:

[Strike!]

:out

[Express Pace]

STUMPED off a wide TROTT gone!

[Sledger]

Trott gone lol. Fair play, send someone in who can make use of the field. :P

[ZenBowman]

Dho daala

[NJamal]

It is getting interesting

[mastermind_quad]

:out Trott ...:(

[Amjid Javed]

Trott gone! Yesssss!

Come You Cloggers! :)

[Bullet Drive]

out

[cricfan967]

Out !! :D

[mastermind_quad]

:) Hope your wrong!

Trott gone ...

[Watsupdoc]

:out Trott gone.

[kashmiri_lad]

TROTT.. :out

[KSaeed]

Wide delivery and Trott goes after but misses and is out off a masterful stumping

[ads101]

Might be a blessing in disguise. Trott isn't generally the man you want to exploit powerplay. Bell's quite good at it though.

[NJamal]

Colly comes to bat

[Sledger]

I still think England will have to be bowled out to lose.

Even if the RR goes up, you don't expect minnows saving <15 runs in the last over against a good batting team.

[ads101]

Should have sent Bopara instead of collingwood.

[mastermind_quad]

bopara will come

[munna_]

a blessing in disguise for england in the form of that stump .... collingwood shud play aggressively n provide sum entertainment .. though i wud prefer ned to provide sum end of the day excitement :d

[Watsupdoc]

Must be a hell of a stumping!

[Bullet Drive]

Come on u dutch stars, beat the english sandwiches !

[Sledger]

Just saw the replay, what a brilliant stumping that was. :14:

[Amjid Javed]

Stunning glove work! Akmal take note!

[James]

I'd have picked Samit Patel, for a start, fat or not. A spin-bowling all-rounder, on the sub-continent, it's a pretty easy choice. Steve Davies should have gone - as a specialist batsman, if necessary. He averages mid-30s opening the batting in domestic one-day games. Who else does? (not a lot of players is the answer - Alex Hales is the only other one I can find, although I expect Trescothick does, but he can't really be counted)

What they have done with Davies is very strange, but I have high hopes for Prior at 7 on flat pitches...though I am a bit of a Prior fanboy

Maybe we have not heard the last of Owais Shah. Bell is an overrated ODI player.

They are trying to make an example of Patel, I reckon they really want him in the team though. He would slot into the ODI side perfectly, and with Collingwood's retirement and the constant search for an all-rounder, maybe even the test side one day.

To have Wright and Tredwell in the XV and Tremlett as a reserve shows you how bad the squad really is.

[Bullet Drive]

Trott gone! Yesssss!

Come You Cloggers! :)

You sure need to post a lot more Mr newcomer, enjoy your stay here.

[Sledger]

:kami would have been proud.

[mastermind_quad]

OMG ..they send colly instead of Bopara ...

[Amjid Javed]

Now if we can get Bell out as well! then its game on!

[KingKhanWC]

Whatever the result the Dutch should be very proud of this performance.

Collingwood to eat up some dot balls.

[Amjid Javed]

You sure need to post a lot more Mr newcomer, enjoy your stay here.

:))) thanks!

[Sledger]

7 an over yes, but only 67 runs needed.

[jusarrived]

I still think England will have to be bowled out to lose.

Even if the RR goes up, you don't expect minnows saving <15 runs in the last over against a good batting team.

yup , they have to bowl eng out .

[NJamal]

229/3 after 41 overs