View Full Version : Strategies to make 300 runs:
sunny_155
12th March 2011, 20:37
Now days other teams are scoring and chasing 300 runs, I wanted to know what strategy Pakistan team can use to post 300 runs total?
1. They need good start, roughly 50 runs by 5 or 6 overs...:hafeez:ahmed:kami
2. Taking batting power play earlier
You guys can add more here...
cric
12th March 2011, 20:39
Now days other teams are scoring and chasing 300 runs, I wanted to know what strategy Pakistan team can use to post 300 runs total?
1. They need good start, roughly 50 runs by 5 or 6 overs...:hafeez:ahmed:kami
You guys can add more here...
I want to know the strategy to make 200 runs first for pakistan batting line up
sunny_155
12th March 2011, 20:42
Their batting is not that bad, its just the openers, if one of them clicks then you will see big score.
fareedymohammad
12th March 2011, 20:43
TRUE get to 200 first then think about getting to 300
Against Canada 184
Against NewZeland 190sh
sunny_155
12th March 2011, 20:46
other idea is to take 6 runs every over and end up getting (50*6) 300 runs...
Khan6575
12th March 2011, 20:48
Hope and prey that miracles do actually happen. If miracles are a myth then we have a very slim chance of reaching that mark.
Awesome_Username
12th March 2011, 20:50
Arrange a friendly against Kenya.
Desi_Joker
12th March 2011, 20:52
After some very arduous calculations, I have come to the conclusion that:
A special knock by one of the top 3 - 70+ score
+
Umar/Afridi special
+
Razzaq finishing touch
=
300+ score
Faisalabadimunda
12th March 2011, 21:09
1 play needs to take the responsibility to make a big score and the 300 will come along with that.
snsyed
12th March 2011, 22:09
i think our batsmen need to learn the art of taking singles and that starts with learning to run between the wickets. You can hit a boundary on every ball so singles are a vital part of any strategy.
abc_to_xyz
12th March 2011, 22:27
1 play needs to take the responsibility to make a big score and the 300 will come along with that.
you mean 1 player should score 200 atleast? :P
abc_to_xyz
12th March 2011, 22:28
Only one, Play full 50 overs on good batting track (not with last 2 batsman).
Looney
12th March 2011, 22:31
3 , Pakistan should get to bat twice
On a more serious note , :afridi must open so we can add :shafiq too . Why i prefer :afridi is because even if he gets out early , he does not waste deliveries by playing tuk tuk . :yk should come third , :misbah 4th and then Shafiq and Umar Akmal or :kami
Zaidi_Zaidi
12th March 2011, 22:34
Bring in Yousuf, Malik and Nazir .. simple :malik:moyo:iamlegend
KingKhanWC
12th March 2011, 22:34
IMO
Pakistan should be defensive at the top.
After 10 overs - 40 runs, 1 or no wickets down.
After 20 overs - 90 runs, 2 or no wickets down.
After 30 overs - 140 runs, 3 or no wickets down.
After 40 overs - 200 runs, 4 or no wicketes down.
After 50 overs - taking the batting powerplay and with Umar,Afridi, Razzaq and Gul swining like mad should get us 100 off the last 10. Even if we get 80, 280 is a decent score if our bowling performs as it should.
A slow gradual increase in the scoring rate from 4rpo - 4.5 rpo - 5 rpo and then a final massive burst.
kkmix
12th March 2011, 22:37
- Not lose wickets for first 10 overs. Don't even worry about the score, even if it's 30, it's not bad.
- Save middle order (Younis - Misbah) from facing new ball.
- Fix
nyyankee13
12th March 2011, 22:49
first three batsmen get you 100 runs by the 15th over.
then the middle order can take you to 200 by the 35-40th overs.
with the batting powerplay and WICKETS in the last ten overs you should be able to add another 100.
Kriketer
12th March 2011, 22:56
Just do the following from 1st over till the 50th:
. . . . . 6 l . . . . . 6 l . . . . . 6 l . . . . . 6 l .....
not sure what' so hard about it :misbah
Express Pace
12th March 2011, 22:56
A run a ball.
nads_rocks
12th March 2011, 22:57
IMO
Pakistan should be defensive at the top.
After 10 overs - 40 runs, 1 or no wickets down.
After 20 overs - 90 runs, 2 or no wickets down.
After 30 overs - 140 runs, 3 or no wickets down.
After 40 overs - 200 runs, 4 or no wicketes down.
After 50 overs - taking the batting powerplay and with Umar,Afridi, Razzaq and Gul swining like mad should get us 100 off the last 10. Even if we get 80, 280 is a decent score if our bowling performs as it should.
A slow gradual increase in the scoring rate from 4rpo - 4.5 rpo - 5 rpo and then a final massive burst.
So we should take the poweplay when the innings is over as you mentioned after 50 overs? Thats the end of he innings.
Khan88
12th March 2011, 22:59
IMO
Pakistan should be defensive at the top.
After 10 overs - 40 runs, 1 or no wickets down.
After 20 overs - 90 runs, 2 or no wickets down.
After 30 overs - 140 runs, 3 or no wickets down.
After 40 overs - 200 runs, 4 or no wicketes down.
After 50 overs - taking the batting powerplay and with Umar,Afridi, Razzaq and Gul swining like mad should get us 100 off the last 10. Even if we get 80, 280 is a decent score if our bowling performs as it should.
A slow gradual increase in the scoring rate from 4rpo - 4.5 rpo - 5 rpo and then a final massive burst.
This seems to be the strategy of the team since the NZ tour and has worked well at times, but what about the Batting PP backfiring? 100 runs in the last 10 overs doesn't always happen. But I do think that's our best strategy, unless they want to promote Umar Akmal to 5 and let him pick up the RR in overs 30-40 ish.
KingKhanWC
12th March 2011, 23:08
So we should take the poweplay when the innings is over as you mentioned after 50 overs? Thats the end of he innings.
lol. No I meant after take the PP between 40-50 overs which should give us a score of 280-300 after 50 overs. Should have made it more clear.
This seems to be the strategy of the team since the NZ tour and has worked well at times, but what about the Batting PP backfiring? 100 runs in the last 10 overs doesn't always happen. But I do think that's our best strategy, unless they want to promote Umar Akmal to 5 and let him pick up the RR in overs 30-40 ish.
Agreed, it may not always come off but there is no reason why 80 runs can't be score with such power hitters. With our batting line up it's the policy imo.
Shaq_oneal
12th March 2011, 23:10
just kidding.. dont trash me guys..
how abt getting sehwag & tendulkar through Pak qualification to achieve the above objective
hasanmehmoodkhan
12th March 2011, 23:36
dont lose a wicket early
nitrous
12th March 2011, 23:37
i think our batsmen need to learn the art of taking singles and that starts with learning to run between the wickets. You can hit a boundary on every ball so singles are a vital part of any strategy.
That is never going to happen, and trust me, once any of the batsman reach 50, they think their job is done, and aim to HIT every ball out of the park, especially the openers.
Our team is jahil and no matter what, we have to live with it.
I cant stand Hafeez always playing across the line, when the ball is on the stumps and getting hit on the pads, the look on his face, I feel like chucking something at the tv.
Doesnt this guy learn from his mistakes?
Same goes for that rockstar Shehzad of ours... That guy has to be the worst opener I have ever seen, will try to hit most balls out of the ground, or just play defensive..
Inswinging Yorker
13th March 2011, 01:24
get saeed anwar and amir sohail to open or pak
Awesome_Username
13th March 2011, 01:26
just kidding.. dont trash me guys..
how abt getting sehwag & tendulkar through Pak qualification to achieve the above objective
Nah. We want India to occasionally win a game or two too. We are brotherly neighbors. :D
We couldn't get 300..By a 65(25)....On a small ground..LoL.
cricket47
13th March 2011, 03:01
- Not lose wickets for first 10 overs. Don't even worry about the score, even if it's 30, it's not bad.
- Save middle order (Younis - Misbah) from facing new ball.
- Fix
This is the strategy that backfires on pakistan. they preserve wickets in the start.. and then after 10 overs when they are at 30 odd they loose a wicket or two.. and that messes everything up because by that time they have lost the 2 wickets and wasted overs. and the pressure magnifies for the rest of the team.
salman24
13th March 2011, 03:04
Bring in Yousuf, Malik and Nazir .. simple :malik:moyo:iamlegend
great post Yousuf and Malik for sure. Nazir would also be better than our current openers.
I remember Pak were chasing over 300 in India once which they did successfully. I think it may have been the match where Inzi made 1 run off the last ball to win it. Afridi opened then Abdul Razzaq at 3 and Malik at 4 all attacking. That was a great strategy.
great post Yousuf and Malik for sure. Nazir would also be better than our current openers.
I remember Pak were chasing over 300 in India once which they did successfully. I think it may have been the match where Inzi made 1 run off the last ball to win it. Afridi opened then Abdul Razzaq at 3 and Malik at 4 all attacking. That was a great strategy.
They failed in 4 matches..And all of a sudden Imran Nazir is better then them? What a joke.
JilaWatan
13th March 2011, 03:53
After some very arduous calculations, I have come to the conclusion that:
A special knock by one of the top 3 - 70+ score
+
Umar/Afridi special
+
Razzaq finishing touch
=
300+ score
stop relying on razzak and afridi to save ur behind by putting special touches. razzak shouldnt even be in the team let alone rely on him to take us past 300. when will pcb learn that when a player struggles u let him go. they did that with fawad alam even when we was posting 20 30 odd runs in each odi. razzak doesnt do anything but hit the bat on the -pitch like he is trying to find water
Justcrazy
13th March 2011, 03:54
Don't lose wickets in the first 15 overs even if you get about 70 runs. After that milk the bowlers with ones and twos till 40th over. Take the PP between 40th to 45th over and then carry the momentum to the end , last 5 overs. Don't try to overdo the PP. A boundary each over will give 40 to 45 runs in the PP.
farz88
13th March 2011, 06:07
Don't lose wickets in the first 15 overs even if you get about 70 runs. After that milk the bowlers with ones and twos till 40th over. Take the PP between 40th to 45th over and then carry the momentum to the end , last 5 overs. Don't try to overdo the PP. A boundary each over will give 40 to 45 runs in the PP.
yeah this is what pakistan tries to do in every match and is why they dont make 300. You need a good fast start from openers.
Muhammad Waleed
13th March 2011, 06:52
Pakistan could only get to 300 if Hafeez have any Intentions to play for more than 10 mins.
JuryIsOut
13th March 2011, 07:10
fast start needed guys. I think only pakistan playing very defensive in the first 10 overs. 100 runs needed from first 15 overs. Hafeez n )hahzad should play attacking cricket n not to play like cowards. Or else make Afridi to open or 1st down.
Liverpool_Faizan
13th March 2011, 07:24
thing is. pak prefer to be at 210 after 40 overs. most teams are looking to score 320+. Pakistan can win matches just scoring 280 as I believe we posess the 2nd best bowling attack after australia.
Hando
13th March 2011, 08:17
40/2 in 10
120/4 in 30
200/6 in 40
398/9 in 50 :afridi :razzaq
Black Zero
13th March 2011, 09:57
30 overs 150 (45 + 50 + 55)
+20 overs 150 (65 + 85)
rhussain33
13th March 2011, 10:48
Hafeez or Shehzad need to get a ton and a 50 each simple, start like that we looking over 300
Turbokam512
13th March 2011, 10:53
how about
30 runs * 10 players each = 300 :)
Afridi_Fan
13th March 2011, 11:15
Just bat out the whole 50 overs.
abc_to_xyz
13th March 2011, 11:16
how about
30 runs * 10 players each = 300 :)
and who is going to score 30 for Akhtar, Ajmal and Afridi?
Turbokam512
13th March 2011, 11:17
could be wahab, Junaid & i am sure Afridi can handle 30 runs .. how hard is that?? surely Mr. Afridi would hit those in say 6 balls .. even that would be enough !
Afridi_Fan
13th March 2011, 11:18
Well going by the records in the previous couple of years, you don't have to worry about Afridi.
pun500
13th March 2011, 11:29
the day you start thinking to get 300 from ball 1 is the time the batting will implode to 150...
for pak the target should always be 250 and try and back their bowlers
if you go for 250 u can get 270-300 but if you go for 300 you will enf up with 170-220
Turbokam512
13th March 2011, 12:38
Our Anchors (Misbah & Younis), when play like anchors we win the match... due batting ..
and the only heavenly way of backing the bowlers is to field well..The bowlers need that ont heir every delivery.. we have world class bowlers but they lose their line and concentration just because of the fielders
IAJ
13th March 2011, 12:55
To put up big scores consistently you need an aggressive start, steady middle period and explosive finish.
What Pakistan are trying to do is to have a cautious start and explosive finish and in recent past it has happend only once or twice against good teams.
Both Afridi and AR hit or miss players so you can't leave it to them to finish off well all the time.
I would have loved to see Imran Nazir and Nasir Jamshed in full flow up front and then Umar Akmal and Shoaib Malik building with their busy play, and if these to fail then Misbah and Younis are handy and in the end Afridi, Kamran and AR to give you a good finish. Only dreams though...:)
sunny_155
13th March 2011, 12:57
Guys Pakistan need quick start like India, although India has lost that game, but that was due to their batting collapse they could scored 380 runs, the way openers played, I know they are experienced openers, but we need to find combination that can give us good start like 50 runs in 5 overs, opposition get demoralised quickly. Why wait for Afridi and Razzaq at the end, bring them up, play your aggressive batsman at the top, at least we will know there are more batsman to come, when these two play at the end they have pressure, so take that out...
Proud To Be A Pakistani
13th March 2011, 13:08
one of the top three have to bat through the 50 overs to close to that mark
MalikMohsin
13th March 2011, 13:12
^ That shows your limited knowledge in Cricket. Thread starter
Pakistan is playing in Sri Lanka, and every matches Pakistan has played, will play in Sri Lanka, and it's not certainly very easy to score 300 runs, even 250 can be defended easily if the team has quality bowlers to utilize the conditions very well, and i am afraid we can't say the same for Indian flat track where let alone 300, even 350 is possible too. Good bowling allow the team to restrict opposite team close to 300.
Pakistan will score 300 as soon as Pakistan plays in India/Bangladesh (if the pitch is not slow). Pakistan must concentrate at least 250 to assure of stability needed, and even if Pakistan has to chase, however, Pakistan must learn to score 250 comfortably, and if Pakistan learns to do that, can able to chase comfortable guaranteed the chasing target is usually close to 250-270 in Sri Lanka.
Pakistan needs to concentrate on strengthening the bowling attack, because Pakistani bowling attack is too strong that they can easily defend in less than 200 runs even in Indian flat track. Trust me. No team has this kind of bowling attack apart from Australia.
sunny_155
13th March 2011, 13:20
but they still can give us good start...
classic
13th March 2011, 13:31
Its very simple ..
A...Learn to rotate strike
B...Learn to rotate strike
C...Play attacking cricket
D...Learn to rotate strike
srg
13th March 2011, 13:53
The best strategy is to look for singles all the time. The Australians have proved it time and time again. Rotating strike eases off the pressure on both the batsmen and gives ample time for planning on how to approach the next ball
Indiafan
13th March 2011, 14:35
At least one batsman in the team should "play for records" and not for the team
Poison
13th March 2011, 14:37
:)) But then we might only get to 297 Indiafan! :sachin
Hando
13th March 2011, 14:37
At least one batsman in the team should "play for records" and not for the team
:kami
Hando
13th March 2011, 14:43
First 15 overs Attack, if you lose Max 2 wickets, the just look for singles.
Should be around 100/3 max by 20 overs.
Now Rotate strike till 35 overs, just look for singles and doubles and bad balls for boundries.
Now by the 40th over, You should be 220/5 Max
Now Try to get to 250 as quickly as you can, more singles.
When you reach 250 take batting power play, should be max 6 wickets down by 250.
Karachi_King
13th March 2011, 15:03
whatever we make batting 1st, we have the fire-power to defend it, unlike many other teams in this WC.
Mujtaba_Saeed
13th March 2011, 15:33
:asif
:amir
:butt
:P
ads101
13th March 2011, 15:36
I don't know about any of you, but I for one will settle for just 299.
:afridi
Inswinger
13th March 2011, 16:07
Or how about strategies not to score 300? ;-)
optimusprime1122
13th March 2011, 17:31
I would say to setup a total of 300 Pakistan will need to do as follows:
If we continue the same batting line up then may b a little change in strategy
1 Hafeez, Shezad and Kamran should b told to try to last 20 overs responsibility and
accountibility.
2 We need to have 100 runson the board in maximum of 22 overs because of the conditions.
3 If we get in trouble early then let misbah and younis play their natural game but if we get a good start and younis and misbah are playing slow Pakistan should take the power play and put pressure on younis and misbah to open up early hence taking off the pressure from late order hitters since afridi and razzaq can clear the field in or with out powerplay.
4 Best time to take batting power play is when u scoreboard says 160 with loss of 3 or less wickets.
5 Afridi, Razzaq or akmal junior one of these should take the responsibility to stay till end specially in case we face a mini collapse at the end.
This is the way to get 300 strategically for Pakistan but the problem is Strategy and Pakistan rarely work together in reality they are at war with each other.
tauseefm
13th March 2011, 17:39
Sahzad = 3
Hafeez = 0
Akmal = 0
Pakistan = Concatenate(Sahzad, Hafeez, Akmal) :D
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.