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Saj
14th March 2011, 10:43
Why is he being so stubborn and ignoring his team mates when it comes to referrals?

We've just seen a referral that anyone could see pitched outside the leg stump and COULD NOT have been given out.

Kamran Akmal was seen shaking his head and saying it wasn't out, yet the skipper ignored him and referred it.

An absolute stubborn piece of captaincy and lack of thought.

*sallu*
14th March 2011, 10:44
He is brainless, every one else apart from Afridi knew it was not out and they were snirks and laughs when he took the review

Sometimes you wonder when he is selfish when it comes to taking reviews, as most of those excitedly taken reviews are from his own bowling

JilaWatan
14th March 2011, 10:46
i knew right away it was pitching outside. i didnt even jump in joy when he appealed.

Saj
14th March 2011, 10:46
15 referrals so far in the World Cup from Pakistan and only 4 correct !

jusarrived
14th March 2011, 10:47
that last one was plain stupid , was never going to be out

ascher
14th March 2011, 10:48
Lmao :)) God help us...his impulsive attitude is verging on insanity!

Just wants to increase his wickets tally!

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Amir
14th March 2011, 10:48
That was selfish. I could clearly tell it pitched outside leg. Not only that but the ball was going with the angle and I doubt it was going to hit the wicket but that didn't stop Afridi.

emclub
14th March 2011, 10:48
He's crazy, ignored Akmal and forced the review, You think he'll let someone else use a review like this? no wonder he said I want to have 4 reviews instead of 2.....Retard

Kray_jackson7
14th March 2011, 10:54
One mistake no big deal. Dont see many people complain when our batsmen review when they are plumb in front of middle stump. When batting we lose our reviews within first 10 overs!

pak4life
14th March 2011, 10:54
Come on to expect logic from Afridi will be illogical! We just have to accept that is the nature of the guy all adrenalin no sense.

W63L35
14th March 2011, 10:55
15 referrals so far in the World Cup from Pakistan and only 4 correct !

Wow... that is mind boggling!

Are these all referrals when bowling? If so, do you have break down by bowlers?

Dr Khan
14th March 2011, 10:55
Honestly I do not see Pakistan going too far with such selfish attitude. He is too eager and get more wickets on his telly, not thinking about the team

farz88
14th March 2011, 10:56
One mistake no big deal. Dont see many people complain when our batsmen review when they are plumb in front of middle stump. When batting we lose our reviews within first 10 overs!

I dont see why their stupidity should excuse afridi's. He is the captain and its quite pathetic when he keeps wasting reviews on obviously not out decisions when everyone else is tell him its not out.

Brainless.

emclub
14th March 2011, 10:57
One mistake no big deal. Dont see many people complain when our batsmen review when they are plumb in front of middle stump. When batting we lose our reviews within first 10 overs!

when it comes to batting his good friend :yk wastes referalls

Dr Khan
14th March 2011, 10:58
One mistake no big deal. Dont see many people complain when our batsmen review when they are plumb in front of middle stump. When batting we lose our reviews within first 10 overs!

Not one mistake, Seen it time and time before

sully3
14th March 2011, 10:59
hafeez and afridi the biggest culprits when it comes to referrals

JilaWatan
14th March 2011, 11:00
speaking of referrals..is it true that games in QF and onwards will have snicko and hot spot?

Eagle_Eye
14th March 2011, 11:07
Saj... what else do you expect... he is an impulsive and stubborn character, possessing very little grey matter between his ears.

Kray_jackson7
14th March 2011, 11:10
Saj... what else do you expect... he is an impulsive and stubborn character, possessing very little grey matter between his ears.

As one so young his hair is not yet at the age where it will lose the black colour

AZ
14th March 2011, 11:12
he should at least take a few seconds to mull it over.

I believe you're allowed 15 seconds to notify the umpire? enough time to process a thought or two.

SameerP
14th March 2011, 11:13
That was clearly not out, he just wanted a wicket really bad

Amjid Javed
14th March 2011, 11:13
The batting referrals havent been any better! Idiots like Hafeez have waste a few with referral calls which are plainly obvious to see arent going to change!

Pakistan havent used the system well at all!

pacman
14th March 2011, 11:14
speaking of referrals..is it true that games in QF and onwards will have snicko and hot spot?

Originally hot spot was to be used in the knock out stages, but not anymore. Snicko is not part of UDRS anyway as it too slow. So no to both.

MOHAMMED_Umar
14th March 2011, 11:15
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

haroonrasheed320
14th March 2011, 11:19
Stop exaggerating! He thought it was out and hence he reviewed it humans can do mistake there are so many other teams who have had unsuccessful reviews.

Kray_jackson7
14th March 2011, 11:22
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

Interesting. Wonder what YK fans have to say about this.
If afridi is brainless for getting one wrong despite getting 2 right

MOHAMMED_Umar
14th March 2011, 11:36
Interesting. Wonder what YK fans have to say about this.
If afridi is brainless for getting one wrong despite getting 2 right

With all Due Respect. He's a Team Player and all. but When It Comes to Reviews, he's Pretty Selfish.

shaykh1985
14th March 2011, 11:40
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

Haven't we had 15 referrals...your missing 8?...

Dr Khan
14th March 2011, 11:44
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

Umar Bhai, Not sure if the Afridi stats are correct. I have seen more than one unsuccessful review from him.

MOHAMMED_Umar
14th March 2011, 11:52
Haven't we had 15 referrals...your missing 8?...

I Only Mentioned People who've Worse Success Rate than Him.

MOHAMMED_Umar
14th March 2011, 11:54
Umar Bhai, Not sure if the Afridi stats are correct. I have seen more than one unsuccessful review from him.

One Against Kenya. CORRECT.

One against Canada. CORRECT.

One Against Zimbabwe. INCORRECT.



I Don't think I've Missed any??

Gotham Cronie
14th March 2011, 12:00
One Against Kenya. CORRECT.

One against Canada. CORRECT.

One Against Zimbabwe. INCORRECT.



I Don't think I've Missed any??

38.5
Shahid Afridi to Khurram Chohan, no run, The umpire turns down a lbw decision and Afridi asks for the review. It was the googly and the batsman was struck clearly outside the off stump, trying to defend it.. Nigel Llong had got it right.

JibranAnsari
14th March 2011, 12:01
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

wrong information

i have already seen unsuccesful reviews from him , the other day he reviewed when ball was hitting the pad outside off., so get ur facts right

38.5
Shahid Afridi to Khurram Chohan, no run, The umpire turns down a lbw decision and Afridi asks for the review. It was the googly and the batsman was struck clearly outside the off stump, trying to defend it.. Nigel Llong had got it righ

W63L35
14th March 2011, 12:02
Referral Count.


:afridi - 3 Reviews. 2 Successful & 1 Unsuccessful.

:yk - 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.

:hafeez 2 Reviews. Both Unsuccessful.


So Far, :afridi has been our BEST Reviewer out of the Lot. :D

Thanks for posting!

Is that all the bowling referrals? If so... then:

Saj had mentioned that we had only 4 successful out of 15... which means....

Bowling: 2 out of 7.
Batting: 2 out of 8.

Anybody know the break dwon for batting referrals?

Gotham Cronie
14th March 2011, 12:03
28.5
Shahid Afridi to Odoyo, no run, Pakistan go for the UDRS. Again. It was the full delivery, dipping full on the boot on the leg stump line. When it hits you on the full, you will have to assume it will go on straight through the line. This would have missed the leg stump. The third ump agrees with Nigel Long's verdict

Gotham Cronie
14th March 2011, 12:06
37.1
Shahid Afridi to Sangakkara, no run, Afridi reviews an lbw decision turned down by Umpire Gould. Short ball, Sanga goes for the pull and misses. What a shocker of a review! That landed two miles outside leg stump. And hit him on the top flap of the pad. Might have been not out on height. Certainly not out for line. George Binoy says thats the worst review he has ever seen. I have seen worse, for third rate Bollywood movies.

*sallu*
14th March 2011, 12:07
Most of the guys are being extremely selfish in their reviews

When any other bowler asks for a review, Afridi looks at it very objectively and thinks about it, but when he appeals, there is invariably a review within 3 seconds

JibranAnsari
14th March 2011, 12:07
2 out of 6 so far :D

ShehryarK
14th March 2011, 12:08
I Don't think I've Missed any??
LOL! You missed out THREE others where Afridi called for the review on his own bowling and got it wrong:

Kenya:

28.5 Shahid Afridi to Odoyo, no run, Pakistan go for the UDRS. Again. It was the full delivery, dipping full on the boot on the leg stump line. When it hits you on the full, you will have to assume it will go on straight through the line. This would have missed the leg stump. The third ump agrees with Nigel Long's verdict

Sri Lanka:

37.1 Shahid Afridi to Sangakkara, no run, Afridi reviews an lbw decision turned down by Umpire Gould. Short ball, Sanga goes for the pull and misses. What a shocker of a review! That landed two miles outside leg stump. And hit him on the top flap of the pad. Might have been not out on height. Certainly not out for line. George Binoy says thats the worst review he has ever seen. I have seen worse, for third rate Bollywood movies.

Canada:

38.5 Shahid Afridi to Khurram Chohan, no run, The umpire turns down a lbw decision and Afridi asks for the review. It was the googly and the batsman was struck clearly outside the off stump, trying to defend it.. Nigel Llong had got it right.

Zimbabwe:

19.6 Shahid Afridi to Ervine, no run, a review after the umpire turns the lbw down, that pitched well outside leg stump, so that review has been wasted, Kamran had suggested that it was pitching outside, but Pakistan decided to go for it anyway

Saj
14th March 2011, 12:09
Saj... what else do you expect... he is an impulsive and stubborn character, possessing very little grey matter between his ears.

EE, yar for someone who has been playing cricket so long he should know that the ball pitched well outside leg stump. Once it had pitched outside leg, then as we all know, it could not have been given out.

Very strange stuff.

ShehryarK
14th March 2011, 12:09
Is that all the bowling referrals? If so... then:



Its not even close to all the bowling referrals - is wrong info, pure and simple. :)

JibranAnsari
14th March 2011, 12:11
EE, yar for someone who has been playing cricket so long he should know that the ball pitched well outside leg stump. Once it had pitched outside leg, then as we all know, it could not have been given out.

Very strange stuff.

saj, there is nothing strange when it comes to afridi.

*sallu*
14th March 2011, 12:11
EE, yar for someone who has been playing cricket so long he should know that the ball pitched well outside leg stump. Once it had pitched outside leg, then as we all know, it could not have been given out.

Very strange stuff.

For someone who has been playing cricket so long should also be willing to take some responsibility

Usman
14th March 2011, 12:11
In Afridi's defence, I have seen at least one occasion in this cup where Kamran said it was not out, Afridi took the review and the decision was overturned. And there were at least 2/3 chances of review today which Afridi did not take. He obviously felt that the ball pitched in line - like the umps, Afridi is a human who can make mistakes.

Afridi has done an outstanding job for Pakistan in this world cup. I reckon we should give him some slack.

W63L35
14th March 2011, 12:12
Its not even close to all the bowling referrals - is wrong info, pure and simple. :)

That's what I thought.... because this is our 5th match and we get 2 a game.... and then if you add the successful ones, that comes out 3-5 per game.....

MOHAMMED_Umar
14th March 2011, 12:13
Oh. My Bad then.

He has the Worst % in the Team. :D

Probably that's why he Wants 4 Referrals per Innings, per Side. :inti

ace4rmspace
14th March 2011, 12:14
His referrals are not compulsive. They are not based on instinct or gut feeling or any other super human sense that some claim he posesses, rather on selfishness, ignorance, stubbornness, total disregard for the greater goal and lack of ability to see beyond personal achievement. A bit like his batting.

*puts on his Anti-Afridite body armour, sprays excessive amounts of Afridoes Repellant and waits for the onslaught with a wooden stake in his hand*

ShehryarK
14th March 2011, 12:14
Oh. My Bad then.

He has the Worst % in the Team. :D


:)

In bowling, yes.

In batting, both YK and Hafeez are worse as they have both wasted two referrals each without getting any correct. Not sure if that's their fault, or fault of the one advising them from the other end... :kami

*sallu*
14th March 2011, 12:16
:)

In bowling, yes.

In batting, both YK and Hafeez are worse as they have both wasted two referrals each. Not sure if that's their fault, or fault of the one advising them from the other end... :kami

I think YK's second dismissal was advised to him by Hafeez, Younis at least discussed it at length with his batting partner on that occassion

I even lip-read Hafeez nodding and saying "sure"

As for the other 3, I can't say because I don't remember

emclub
14th March 2011, 12:20
I think YK's second dismissal was advised to him by Hafeez, Younis at least discussed it at length with his batting partner on that occassion

I even lip-read Hafeez nodding and saying "sure"

As for the other 3, I can't say because I don't remember

Aaja tu bhi aur woh kidher hai Saeed-Sohail blindly defend :yk no matter what the reason

Faizan Lakhani
14th March 2011, 12:56
Why is he being so stubborn and ignoring his team mates when it comes to referrals?

We've just seen a referral that anyone could see pitched outside the leg stump and COULD NOT have been given out.

Kamran Akmal was seen shaking his head and saying it wasn't out, yet the skipper ignored him and referred it.

An absolute stubborn piece of captaincy and lack of thought.

I don't know why people are having issues with every thing Shahid does, why you didn't appreciated him when he was taking wickets for Pakistan? why he wasn't appreciated when his referrals forced umpires to change their decisions?

and is he the only one who's referrals are being wasted? or people on this forum have learn to criticize Shahid Afridi for every thing?

Poison
14th March 2011, 13:00
Pitched about one inch outside leg stump, don't know how you'd expect him to realise this. It looked out to the naked eye.

Akmal is a fool also, he was trying to get Afridi not to review something from last game, and it was out.

Eagle_Eye
14th March 2011, 13:05
EE, yar for someone who has been playing cricket so long he should know that the ball pitched well outside leg stump. Once it had pitched outside leg, then as we all know, it could not have been given out.

Very strange stuff.

He gets over excited and in the process forgets the basics, be it his batting or captaincy. But in complete contrast, when it comes to bowling, he has found a way of handling his emotions and knows exactly what he wants to do and goes on deliver it more often than not these days. Its a pity he cannot do that in other facets of his game.

Dr Khan
14th March 2011, 13:09
I don't know why people are having issues with every thing Shahid does, why you didn't appreciated him when he was taking wickets for Pakistan? why he wasn't appreciated when his referrals forced umpires to change their decisions?

and is he the only one who's referrals are being wasted? or people on this forum have learn to criticize Shahid Afridi for every thing?

You are taking this out of context. This is not a personal attack on Afridi. He acted hastily, not for the first time, hence the criticism.

Faizan Lakhani
14th March 2011, 13:14
You are taking this out of context. This is not a personal attack on Afridi. He acted hastily, not for the first time, hence the criticism.

did I say that it was a personal attack? or shall I take your clarification as "CHORR KI DARHII MAY TINKAA"

I would refer you to check the videos of games against SL, CAN and NZL where Afridi did consult team mates before asking for reviewers, and on more than two occasions, team-mates advised him not to go for review, but the television replays confirmed that a review could've turned the decision in Pakistan's favour.

*syed59*
14th March 2011, 13:14
Afridi piling on reviews is the last thing I would be surprised of. So predictable.

W63L35
14th March 2011, 13:17
I don't know why people are having issues with every thing Shahid does, why you didn't appreciated him when he was taking wickets for Pakistan? why he wasn't appreciated when his referrals forced umpires to change their decisions?

and is he the only one who's referrals are being wasted? or people on this forum have learn to criticize Shahid Afridi for every thing?

He is the captain and needs to show better judgement than other players. These are the type of decisions (field placing, bowling changes, Power Plays, batting orders, etc) can make or break your captaincy.

shaykh1985
14th March 2011, 13:19
Afridi's been impulsive but its worth noting that 4 in 15 isnt shocking...Aussies have the best review rate at 40%...I dont know what the rest are off hand but id say our referral success rate is about average...

I'd say our batting reviews have been worse than our bowling ones but thats pretty much the case with all teams...

Faizan Lakhani
14th March 2011, 13:24
India, Sri Lanka and New Zealand, both wasted countless referrals .. what's the point?
if umpires who're there to make the decisions can make mistakes, then players are human too. what is the point to criticize Afridi for every thing he does?

Faizan Lakhani
14th March 2011, 13:27
4 out of 15 and did Afridi ask for review in all the 15 times? these 15 includes the batting reviews as well and batsmen who asked for the review should be held responsible if you think reviews were wasted.
again, please check the videos of all the events when Afridi asked for review.

Gabbar Singh
14th March 2011, 13:32
If Akmal was so sure it pitched outside leg then why jump up and down and appeal like a monkey in the first instance?

shaykh1985
14th March 2011, 13:39
If Akmal was so sure it pitched outside leg then why jump up and down and appeal like a monkey in the first instance?

Well obviously thats for the umpires benefit as it is with catches he appeals for which dont catch edges...

Afridi asked Kami and he said it wasnt out...in fairness keepers can get it wrong too as Kami has...hes also got it right too...

I think the issue is less that he gets reviews wrong as around 75% of reviews so far have failed across the board for all teams...its just his impulsiveness and the fact that he calls for reviews without consultation which seems to have irked most...

KingKhanWC
14th March 2011, 14:32
He felt it pitched inside and was going to hit but the review was taken in haste again. Afridi is hungry for wickets.

Zaz
14th March 2011, 17:33
I don't know why people are having issues with every thing Shahid does, why you didn't appreciated him when he was taking wickets for Pakistan? why he wasn't appreciated when his referrals forced umpires to change their decisions?

and is he the only one who's referrals are being wasted? or people on this forum have learn to criticize Shahid Afridi for every thing?

The issue is why isnt he taking his time, getting the keepers opinion on board before making a measured decision?

He'd expect others to consult before asking for a review so why shouldnt he?

Just because he is the captain doesnt make it his right to just take a review willy nilly off his own bowling without putting a bit of thought into it

AZ
14th March 2011, 17:35
let Misbah be in charge of referrals, pls.

mithun_minhas
14th March 2011, 18:06
He's crazy, ignored Akmal and forced the review, You think he'll let someone else use a review like this? no wonder he said I want to have 4 reviews instead of 2.....Retard


Who would want to trust that guy :P

Khan88
14th March 2011, 18:09
let Misbah be in charge of the team, pls.

Fixed. :iamlegend

AZ
14th March 2011, 18:11
hahaha, Khan bhai you are too chalaak.

I will refuse to comment on that.

Faizan Lakhani
14th March 2011, 18:17
Zaz,

do I need to repeat my suggestion that please go back and see some videos from Pakistan matches against SL, CAN and KEN where Afridi consulted with keepers and slip fielders before going for review ....
this was probably was the first time that he did at his own.

Inswinger
14th March 2011, 18:32
You really don't have to defend Afridi at all times, you know. Sometimes criticism is more beneficial than blind support.

W63L35
14th March 2011, 19:04
You really don't have to defend Afridi at all times, you know. Sometimes criticism is more beneficial than blind support.

I don't think he (faizan) is going for blind supprt. He is suggesting that we look at the evidence (videos) and then decide.... if we are correct in criticizing Afridi. Nothing worng with that.

Hasnain_786
14th March 2011, 19:27
its wat makes him Afridi!

Theo_14
14th March 2011, 20:40
I remember bringing this issue up when Afridi first did this in the following post...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3492668&postcount=23

After that post - I thought Afridi wouldn't do it again, I assumed he got over excited because it was his first review of the World cup and he was glowing with confidence BUT now it's starting to become a serious issue - it's slowly starting to become more of a habit for Afridi and it seriously needs to stop as it COULD cost Pakistan a game.

These referrals are a huge advantage and most of the advantage must be taken properly which Afridi obviously is not doing, he needs to keep himself composed and discuss it with the 'Keeper and any other fielder in a good position to give a view on whether Pakistan should go for a review, it's simple.. Not rocket science is it.

Namak_Halaal
14th March 2011, 20:45
You guys just realised this now? Afridi's been doing this since day dot in the WC2011.

Zaz
14th March 2011, 21:21
Zaz,

do I need to repeat my suggestion that please go back and see some videos from Pakistan matches against SL, CAN and KEN where Afridi consulted with keepers and slip fielders before going for review ....
this was probably was the first time that he did at his own.

I have to disagree Hes took a referral at least a couple of times now instantly without asking for any1 elses opinion

farazaidi
14th March 2011, 22:29
Afridi fans at it again. Forget the no. of reviews he's got it wrong(and there are plenty), just look at the point which has been criticized here.

On his own bowling, Afridi dont consult anyone, not even the keeper and calls for a review in less than a second. Its not just about how shocking few review calls has been, also the manner in which he has imposed his will on to team mates. Surprisingly, for any other bowler he does takes a moment and discuss it with the bowler/keeper. Pardon me but that is very selfish of him and he's not going to earn respect from his teammates with this impulsive behavior.

Proud To Be A Pakistani
14th March 2011, 22:39
we promise each day how to bash one player or the other , seems like today its afridi , btw there is about 12 seconds time in which you have to make a call for review , he was carried by the moment

farazaidi
14th March 2011, 22:47
its 15 seconds actually and if you notice, most teams discuss the decision at length before deciding about review. It is A LOT of time honestly on the field of play

Gotham Cronie
14th March 2011, 22:56
Zaz,

do I need to repeat my suggestion that please go back and see some videos from Pakistan matches against SL, CAN and KEN where Afridi consulted with keepers and slip fielders before going for review ....
this was probably was the first time that he did at his own.

No, it wasn't.

Gotham Cronie
14th March 2011, 22:56
did I say that it was a personal attack? or shall I take your clarification as "CHORR KI DARHII MAY TINKAA"

I would refer you to check the videos of games against SL, CAN and NZL where Afridi did consult team mates before asking for reviewers, and on more than two occasions, team-mates advised him not to go for review, but the television replays confirmed that a review could've turned the decision in Pakistan's favour.

I don't remember this at all.

AZ
14th March 2011, 23:01
its 15 seconds actually and if you notice, most teams discuss the decision at length before deciding about review. It is A LOT of time honestly on the field of play

what's your problem with Afridi?
why do you hate him?
are you even Pakistani? you must be Indian.

:yk

Die-Hard TestCricket Fan
14th March 2011, 23:10
He has wasted so many reveiws. He doesn't bother to consult with anyone, he turns straight to the umpire and reviews it. And asks Kamran or someone, what's the point in conferring after the review?!?!

jasimisbest2
15th March 2011, 12:33
come on guys, harsh comments....

AFRIDI is the cpatain and he plays with so mcuh motivation, more then anybody else in there.

Referrals are there to be used, Afridi believes it was out so he goes for,.... forget AFRIDI what about the Unpires that have given so many wrong decisions this world cup and most of them had to be corrected.... the umpire job is to just stand and concentrate and they even get it WRONG... where Afirid bowls and runs and his concentration and preciseness can be wrong.. no problem with that...

THREAD IS USELESS

zainkhan
15th March 2011, 13:29
For me to understand LBW is harder than Rocket Science

d0gers
15th March 2011, 16:15
Pakistan have so far used the UDRS 15 times. They have been successful on 4 occasions. The breakdown is as follows:

Batting reviews:
5 reviews - 0 successful

Mohammad Hafeez - 2
Younis Khan - 2
Abdur Rehman - 1

Bowling reviews:
10 reviews - 4 successful

Shahid Afridi - 6 (2 successful)
Saeed Ajmal - 2(1 successful)
Umar Gul - 1 (successful)
Abdur Rehman - 1

So far to my knowledge I don't think we've been in a situation where we have been out of reviews and therefore unable to review an incorrect decision (either while batting or bowling). So from that perspective our usage of UDRS has been okay.

Though I do see that Afridi might be acting a bit selfish given that 6 out of 10 bowling reviews have been his. Then again, he has been our main strike bowler in this tournament so maybe a bit pumped up. A few of his unsuccessful reviews have come immediately following a wicket or a successful review so I think he lets the excitement get the better of him. Not the first time Afridi will be accused of this!

Amjid Javed
23rd March 2011, 10:03
Another one wasted today by Afridi!

smoothcriminal
23rd March 2011, 10:04
^ A bit harsh. Looked pretty close. Now if he had taken the 2nd one in a row that would have been a waste.

Kray_jackson7
23rd March 2011, 10:06
Looked close and discussed with team mates aswwell.

shehzi
23rd March 2011, 10:07
to be honest ..... that was out ... i dun understand this 2.5cm thing... this means every ball come down the track... ull never ever be LBW

PakPosheeda
23rd March 2011, 10:09
to be honest ..... that was out ... i dun understand this 2.5cm thing... this means every ball come down the track... ull never ever be LBW
Yes. Thats how it works with real human umpires too.

So why waste a referral? Just shows Afridi's ignorance of UDRS rules.

Paradox
23rd March 2011, 10:11
How was that a waste of a referral?! Maybe you just typed a waste of a post.

shehzi
23rd March 2011, 10:12
Yes. Thats how it works with real human umpires too.

So why waste a referral? Just shows Afridi's ignorance of UDRS rules.

why not take a chance, cuz i want to be leading wicket taker:afridi

PakPosheeda
23rd March 2011, 10:18
How was that a waste of a referral?! Maybe you just typed a waste of a post.
how was that not a waste? You know the review failed right?

Kray_jackson7
23rd March 2011, 10:20
Yes. Thats how it works with real human umpires too.

So why waste a referral? Just shows Afridi's ignorance of UDRS rules.

:))) Then why have referrels at all? i mean if the real umpires give it not out thats 'how it works' with them so why question the decision?

imshally81
23rd March 2011, 10:23
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imshally81
23rd March 2011, 10:23
taking Referral is not an easy job......

PakPosheeda
23rd March 2011, 10:24
:))) Then why have referrels at all? i mean if the real umpires give it not out thats 'how it works' with them so why question the decision?
There are some certain rules. Some written, some unwritten.

With human umpires its unwritten, that they wont give an LBW decision if the batsman is too far down.

With UDRS its a written rule and they give you exact measurement.

Which is why its a waste of a referral. Either Afridi doesn't know the rule, or he made that referral decision in a hurry. Either way its wasted.

Fortunately, he's bowling brilliantly and Pollard out yes!!

Theo_14
14th November 2011, 20:35
BUMP!

Ignore the title and let's only JUST focus on Pakistan, in terms of wasting referrals.

I still believe it's a issue on going - and it starting to become a very bad habit. Pakistan seriously need to do better in decision making when it comes to bowlers and especially batsmen who are in a situation where they are about to consider taking the referrals.

They need to take full advantage of these referrals and stop taking them as a minor advantage - frustating to see batsmen deciding to refer decision without discussing it with it's batting partner - we've always seen this happen, along with lack of composure.

Farhat's wasted referral could be used as a example - Misbah should have had a proper with with him before referring the original decision - especially when we could have used that referral for Safraz's LBW.

Pakistan need to sort this out.

Zaz
14th November 2011, 20:47
The referrals are designed to be used to overturn blatantly poor umpire decisions ie inside edges wrongly given lbw

Our players need to grow a brain and realise its not to be used for a maybe but only if they are 100% sure they are not out