Who to drop: Ahmad Shehzad or Asad Shafiq?

[srh]

Assuming that Umar Akmal's injury heal in time for match against Australia, who would you drop to accomodate him:

1. Ahmad Shehzad
2. Asad Shafiq

Mods can you please make this a poll?

If Ahmad Shehzad is dropped then the top 6 lineup would be:
1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Kamran Akmal
3. Asad Shafiq
4. Younus Khan
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Umar Akmal

If Asad Shafiq is dropped then the top 6 lineup would be:
1. Mohammad Hafeez
2. Ahmad Shehzad
3. Kamran Akmal
4. Younus Khan
5. Misbah-ul-Haq
6. Umar Akmal

[Khan88]

Drop Ahmed Shehzad obviously. He can be the water boy for this match, he needs some humbling anyway :yk

[srh]

Although the answer is very obvious that Ahmad Shehzad should be dropped. But I have concerns about Asad Shafiq, Younus Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq playing at the same time. If Asad Shafiq can show some aggression then its all good.

[emclub]

Asad Shafiq

[Pakistani93]

Asad Shafiq

So you want to play someone who has scored 40 odd runs in 5 innings over someone who scored 75 in one inning. What exactly is the reason behind that ?

[hur rizvi]

wOULD BE UNFAIR IF WE DROP SHAFIQ AFTER SUCH A RESPONSIBLE INNINGS ...

I KNOW SHEHZAD IS REALLY TALENTED BUT SHEHZAD GOT HIS CHANCES NOW HE HAS TO BVE DROPPED

[Cricket_MN]

Although the answer is very obvious that Ahmad Shehzad should be dropped. But I have concerns about Asad Shafiq, Younus Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq playing at the same time. If Asad Shafiq can show some aggression then its all good.

So, you mean to say that you don't want three of the most technically correct batsmen in the current Pakistani team playing together in the same match?

Are you one of the Akmals?

[saamry]

it is funny, between Asad, Umar and Kamran we have three keepers playing. The worst of the lot will be actually keeping because he refuses to play just as batsmen. Also, Umar has to keep faking his injury. what a mess.

[emclub]

So you want to play someone who has scored 40 odd runs in 5 innings over someone who scored 75 in one inning. What exactly is the reason behind that ?

Give him last chance, otherwise in QF Asad can come in, I believe Shehzad is a better player than Asad

[srh]

So, you mean to say that you don't want three of the most technically correct batsmen in the current Pakistani team playing together in the same match?

Are you one of the Akmals?
if all 3 of them are playing slow then its almost impossible to win a match considering the pitches.

[786warrior]

Give him last chance, otherwise in QF Asad can come in, I believe Shehzad is a better player than Asad

another chance to add to all the others??? why not let asad build on his innings and confidence!!!

[786warrior]

if all 3 of them are playing slow then its almost impossible to win a match considering the pitches.

actually its considering the skills of the batsmen, ahmed should stay in the playground!

[Inswinging Yorker]

shezard is a complete failure so far in the world cup ...however you look at it....

be it under lights, natural light or in the darkness........for pak sake get his butt off d team

[shokz1408]

Im happy with Asad shafiq's addition in the middle order. Heck I would even add Moyo and Shoaib malik there if they were available.

Mohammed Hafeez
Umar Akmal (WK)
Asad Shafiq
Younis Khan
Mohammed Yousuf
Misbah Ul Haq
Shoaib Malik
Abdul Razzaq
Shahid Afridi (C)
Wahab Riaz
Umar Gul

Lol, now that is a huge batting line up. HUGE. Its a team I could rely on to win us any match.

[Free Hit]

Ahmed shehzad

[emclub]

I have said this earlier I'll say it again 'Shehzad's got the ability to take the attack to the opposition unlike Asad, I say give him another chance, Asad is similar tuk-tuk player like Hafeez, Younis and Misbah....4 tuk-tuks in one team will be overly defensive'

[talha3]

Drop Shehzad, easy answer. I would still say Shehzad even if Shafiq only got 10 against Zimb. Shehzad's not only failed to score, but he's never really looked settled.

[Gollum]

It will be really something if Asad is dropped and Shehzad is retained. The former has just been inducted and has performed on the first outing whereas the latter has failed to show any sign of improvement in the last 5 games.

[srh]

Inzimam-ul-Haq want Pak to drop Ahmad Shehzad and open with Kamran Akmal and Mohammad Hafeez
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101192104&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20110315

[ads101]

I have said this earlier I'll say it again 'Shehzad's got the ability to take the attack to the opposition unlike Asad, I say give him another chance, Asad is similar tuk-tuk player like Hafeez, Younis and Misbah....4 tuk-tuks in one team will be overly defensive'
Yep this is the problem. Asad always looked like a player who would come in for a failing younis or misbah. That's the sort of player he is. There was a lot of similarity to misbah's play last game.

Hafeez isn't tuk-tuk these days. He's an aggressive batsman now.

I would still get in Asad now though, we've tried Shehzad and he's looked awful. Even Hafeez has looked in good knick in patches, Shehzad's looked a mess at the crease. The pressure of the world cup has really got to him.

Asad doesn't look like the right choice, but he's all we have at the moment. And credit to him, if he can keep playing these mature knocks, he will benefit us a lot more than Shehzad.

One good thing Asad did do, is that he showed ability to accelerate once he's got in. Which is a good sign.

[Khan88]

I have said this earlier I'll say it again 'Shehzad's got the ability to take the attack to the opposition unlike Asad, I say give him another chance, Asad is similar tuk-tuk player like Hafeez, Younis and Misbah....4 tuk-tuks in one team will be overly defensive'

I'd rather have a player score say 30 off 45 balls than 8 off 3 and be back in the shed. How soon we forget the collapse against New Zealand and even Canada. Asad is way tougher mentally and showed that he can attack despite the early troubles he had. He started off 5 from 26 balls and finished with 73 off 71 balls. How's that for tuk tuk?

Asad ended up with a SR of 80 in the last match. Do you know Shehzad's SR this world cup? 48. And for his career? 71. Asad's for his career is 72. Let's look at List A as well, Shehzad's is 83 and Asad's is 79.

Oh, did I mention Asad has a better average in ODIs and in List A?

What an attacking player yaar! Give me a break, he's thrown away 5 chances in the World Cup with the same mistakes and Shafiq only gets a chance due to UA's injury and he performs.

It's obvious who is going to be and should be selected for the Australia match. :shafiq

[asad100101]

Shahzad is a gully cricketer. He should play for his mohalla cricket. He does not even know the definition of an opener. He is mentally weak.

[murphyslaw79]

it is funny, between Asad, Umar and Kamran we have three keepers playing. The worst of the lot will be actually keeping because he refuses to play just as batsmen. Also, Umar has to keep faking his injury. what a mess.

Shafiq is not a keeper, please people get that out of your head.

I don't think he has ever kept in a first class game, and i think there was another thread saying that Shafiq was not a keeper.

Therefore he cannot be better than Kamran, although it can't be very hard.

Does it say Taufeeq Umar is also a keeper on his profile because he kept wickets against India in the 2003 WC.

[freelance_cricketer]

Shahzad actually need a reality check

[hazen_batti]

I'll go with the wind. Lion should play and Prince should do the Water job. :D

[strongman123]

Posters concerned about Asad Shafiq's "slow" batting need to understand cricket better, you need # 3,4 & 5 to be stable & reliable batsman. Asad was 5 from 26 balls but ended up batting at a strike rate of 80 in the end. He is a decent player, and deserves to keep his place, drop Ahmad Shahzad and promote Akmal to opening.

[Riff]

I have said this earlier I'll say it again 'Shehzad's got the ability to take the attack to the opposition unlike Asad, I say give him another chance, Asad is similar tuk-tuk player like Hafeez, Younis and Misbah....4 tuk-tuks in one team will be overly defensive'

I answered that exact point in this thread:

www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=120972&page=2

I said:

When you're out of form and you try to take the attack to the opposition, you get stumped

This is the WC, we got no time for liabilities. Let Shahzad get in form in the Zimbabwe series, whenever that is.

And what you call tuk tuk, is what I call sensible batting. The kind that Asad played, which not only raised serious questions about his inclusion, but also guided Pakistan to victory. And if you had seen Shafiq in the England summer, you would know that he can strike the bowl. The point is that he plays to the situation. Today the situation demanded him to establish himself in the WC and ensure that he was there for the team in the end, which he did.

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I thought you accepted this point and thats why you didnt reply. But now it just seems you dont like Asad period.

Im afraid you have lost all credibility as a poster in my eyes emclub. It would be difficult to regain :facepalm:

[murphyslaw79]

I would go with the following team, as i doubt they will drop Kamran as a keeper

1. Hafeez
2. K Akmal+
3. Shafiq
4. Younis
5. U Akmal
6. Misbah
7. Afridi
8. Rehman
9. Gul
10. Wahab
11. Shoaib

Drop Razzaq and Shahzad. Rehman, Gul and Wahab can all bat a bit.

Or the other combination would be to drop K Akmal, get Umar Akmal to keep, play razzaq and let shafiq open.

[sunnykhan]

Ahmad should be dropped. Those who think ahmad should be there coz he is aggressive. Do they mind telling what benefit is the team getting due to his aggressiveness?

[Riff]

Oh and needless to say, drop Shahzad. He's useless.

[*sallu*]

Drop someone whos make 44 runs in 5 innings, out of which 3 matches were against minnows or drop someone who made 72* in his only game coming in at a fall of an early wicket

Hmm, its a real tough one

[Riff]

Ahmad should be dropped. Those who think ahmad should be there coz he is aggressive. Do they mind telling what benefit is the team getting due to his aggressiveness?

They are T20 fans or what I normally call them "Suckers of flashy batsmen"

[Anfield]

Seems pretty obvious to me that Shehzad should go. He's been absolute dogshite in the entire tourny and Shafiq has shown he deserves a place in the starting XI.

[emclub]

Im afraid you have lost all credibility as a poster in my eyes emclub. It would be difficult to regain :facepalm:

How difficult is it

[srh]

Take a look at the career strike rate in ODIs of these batsmen (sorted from top to bottom):

Umar Akmal (84.68)
Kamran Akmal (84.40)
Misbah-ul-Haq (78.77)
Younis Khan (75.05)
Asad Shafiq (72.11)
Ahmed Shehzad (71.30)
Mohammad Hafeez (64.73)

So Ahmed Shehzad and Asad Shafiq are both same in terms of strike rate although its preceived that Ahmed Shehzad score runs way faster than Asad Shafiq. In reality Ahmed Shehzad is same aggressive as Asad Shafiq.

[Riff]

How difficult is it

If you admit that on merit, Asad deserves to play ahead of Shahzad, which everyone except you dont agree with, then your credibility instantly returns :malik

[emclub]

If you admit that on merit, Asad deserves to play ahead of Shahzad, which everyone except you dont agree with, then your credibility instantly returns :malik

OK, I'll consider it :malik

[Afridi_Fan]

Is this a real question?

Obviously :ahmed

[Riff]

OK, I'll consider it :malik

Credibility return pending

[FusedBulb]

None.

It should be YK.

[TigerJat]

i'd drop umar akmal again, or kamran akmal and make umar keep wickets

[Prince_Pathan]

if ahmed shezad gets dropped

umar akmal or kamran are just going to get asad run out anyways lol

[Prince_Pathan]

None.

It should be YK.

50 vs england

50 vs srilanka

50 vs kenya


oh yeah lets drop our second highest run scorer if not highest

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

ahmed shehzad should be dropped his presence messes up the balance of the squad i think asad should come at 4

[cricketpassion]

Drop ahmed shahzad and bring in one bowler ,dont expect Razaq to deliver with ball against big teams . We are short of one genuine fast bowler .

Bowlers will win us matches. Doesn't matter who we play as batsman wont make difference

[emclub]

50 vs england

Yes that was the fastest 50 in the history, as no one saw it

[BakuGM]

Is this really a question? You have to be kidding me, for god sake look at what Shehzad has done in the last five games. It does not matter that Shafiq scored in the last match, Shehzad needs to be dropped, PERIOD.

[pakcricketfan]

Why would anyone (in their right minds) want to drop Asad Shafiq and persist with Ahmed Shehzad? :13:

[emclub]

Credibility return pending

OK, Asad in Shehzad Out

[Sufi Malang]

ASAD should play all games from now on!

[wasi90lk]

i think for this world cup, asad should replace ahmad.

[Riff]

OK, Asad in Shehzad Out

Credibility has made a miraculous return for you bro :bow:

[farsiddiqui]

I think Asad will be retained and Ahmed Shehzad will be dropped.

The bigger question is, how many chances will Asad get? If he fails in the next match, does Shehzad come back in the QF?

[Looney]

it is funny, between Asad, Umar and Kamran we have three keepers playing. The worst of the lot will be actually keeping because he refuses to play just as batsmen. Also, Umar has to keep faking his injury. what a mess.
:shafiq is not a keeper

My answer would be obvious - Shehzad

[blinding light]

Ahmed Shehzad.

[Gotham Cronie]

ICC Cricket World Cup, 2010/11
1 (18)
13 (23)
12 (23)
10 (16)
8 (11)

Innings: 5
Runs: 44
Ave: 8.80

:ahmed