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UmarAkmals-fan
1st April 2011, 16:17
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Desi_Joker
1st April 2011, 16:20
Spot on about the senior players, but then the hate against Afridi was clearly coming out. Spouting non-sense as usual afterwards.

Desi
1st April 2011, 16:20
i'm at work video doesnt play, can someone give a summary please

Desi_Joker
1st April 2011, 16:23
Says apart from Asad Shafiq, Wahab Riaz & Umar Akmal there were no juniors in the team. All the senior batsmen should be experienced enough to chase 260 down without needing a batting coach for now. The excuse that we lost because we didn't have experience or a batting coach is lame.

Then he went on about Afridi saying he always went in with a mentality of only reaching to the SF, he should've said I want to win the WC instead of saying I want to get to the SF. If you're only aiming to get to the semis, then you won't see winning the SF as important as if you had said you wanted to win the whole tournament.

Basically saying Pakistan got complacent after getting to the SF.

Riff
1st April 2011, 16:25
I agree with him. Saying that we are going there to reach atleast the Semis was a negative comment by Afridi. Just look at Butt, first match, had a vision of beating Australia and drawing a test series against them after God knows how many years, and he achieved that. We need a more ambitious captain, and if Afridi cant think like that, then I think we need to move on

Desi_Joker
1st April 2011, 16:26
I agree with him. Saying that we are going there to reach atleast the Semis was a negative comment by Afridi. Just look at Butt, first match, had a vision of beating Australia and drawing a test series against them after God knows how many years, and he achieved that. We need a more ambitious captain, and if Afridi cant think like that, then I think we need to move on

Yep... he was also very ambitious with his bank account. ;)

Wanton
1st April 2011, 16:27
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watch 4:00 onwards

such a shame, a proven traitor is allowed to comment.....no wonder Pakistan is going no where....

Riff
1st April 2011, 16:29
Yep... he was also very ambitious with his bank account. ;)

Im not saying he wasnt a cheat, but you cant deny what Butt achieved as a captain. Reply to the whole post next time.

Uzi
1st April 2011, 16:30
Great, they are interviewing Butt the match fixer. What a disgrace he is.

Desi_Joker
1st April 2011, 16:30
Im not saying he wasnt a cheat, but you cant deny what Butt achieved as a captain. Reply to the whole post next time.

I do agree... he had so much potential to become the next big thing of Pakistan cricket. Threw all his efforts down the drain though. Really disappointed in him and Amir.

:asif was always a charsi money chasing traitor.

Cosmic
1st April 2011, 16:32
this guy has no shame at all after selling his country during ramdhan what we can say about this idiotic man

cricket_fever
1st April 2011, 16:33
traitors shouldnt talk! dont criticise and honest captain like afridi mr butt- u know what u are!

ads101
1st April 2011, 16:34
Im not saying he wasnt a cheat, but you cant deny what Butt achieved as a captain. Reply to the whole post next time.
Butt won a match against Australia. Pakistan were thoroughly outclassed by England in the test series, winning just 1 match, loosing the rest. Not a terrible record, but hardly an outstanding one.

Afridi lost two tight series against England and South Africa. Won the series at home against New Zealand. Now got to the semi finals, beating both Sri Lanka and Australia, topping their group. Lead the way with his own performances, something which Butt never did while captain.

I can't say that Afridi's record as captain is any worse than Butt. I know it's comparing tests to ODIs, which are different games. But Butt's achievements of captain are no more, perhaps even less than Afridi's anyway.

Sledger
1st April 2011, 16:37
LOL @ lame excuses.

So Salman, have you married your sister off yet?

Imran's Tiger
1st April 2011, 16:38
lolz @ Salman "...hum apne pachasi marwa liengey aur aglay ke sau mar diengey aur samjhien gey hum jeet gaye..." :butt

the saint
1st April 2011, 16:42
what about what Butt did against England do you remember the result of that series? Did Butt even pass 50 in that series? NO

talha3
1st April 2011, 16:43
LOL @ lame excuses.

So Salman, have you married your sister off yet?

Did I miss something? i.e please explain

Riff
1st April 2011, 16:43
what about what Butt did against England do you remember the result of that series? Did Butt even pass 50 in that series? NO

England are a better side than Australia. Check the last ashes.

Riff
1st April 2011, 16:45
Butt won a match against Australia. Pakistan were thoroughly outclassed by England in the test series, winning just 1 match, loosing the rest. Not a terrible record, but hardly an outstanding one.

Afridi lost two tight series against England and South Africa. Won the series at home against New Zealand. Now got to the semi finals, beating both Sri Lanka and Australia, topping their group. Lead the way with his own performances, something which Butt never did while captain.

I can't say that Afridi's record as captain is any worse than Butt. I know it's comparing tests to ODIs, which are different games. But Butt's achievements of captain are no more, perhaps even less than Afridi's anyway.

Pakistan are better at limited overs cricket, than test cricket. Lets not kid oursleves. And captaincy in test cricket is more difficult and Afridi bottled it.

talha3
1st April 2011, 16:45
what about what Butt did against England do you remember the result of that series? Did Butt even pass 50 in that series? NO

He had other things on his mind in the England series...

Dragon
1st April 2011, 16:46
Atleast afridi didn't screw his country for money. This guy doesn't deserve to give opinion on cricket.

Third Umpire
1st April 2011, 16:49
I have no time for this guy, he has no right to talk about Pakistan cricket. To hell with Salman Butt.

JilaWatan
1st April 2011, 16:52
Since when did we start taking this cheat seriously. Butt shouldn't you be helping tape ball players spot fix matches or something?

Savak
1st April 2011, 16:58
Unbelievable that our news channels even bother interviewing this guy.

sh47
1st April 2011, 17:02
Did I miss something? i.e please explain

How can u not know... that was the lame excuse captain rishwat gave when they found bags of money in his hotel room the hypocrit gave an "lame" excuse which was that money found in the hotel was for his sisters wedding.... how dare he critisize the pakistan team for anything.. shame on the news channel for even allowing the pakistani nation to see his hideous face on television

Kray_jackson7
1st April 2011, 17:03
Just what people want to hear a cheater who along with him took our best 2 players out of the game telling us about what went wrong in the world cup.

ads101
1st April 2011, 17:04
Pakistan are better at limited overs cricket, than test cricket. Lets not kid oursleves. And captaincy in test cricket is more difficult and Afridi bottled it.
judging by their results over the past few years, they didn't seem at all a particularly strong ODI team. Especially sine they lost both Amir and Butt too before it started. They were beaten however.

3-1 loss against England is still a comprehensive loss. England dominated those 3 tests they won, and loss by a fairly narrow margin in that one they lost.

Australia test, yeah he was good. Bowlers performed however. Batting still struggled. But it's hard to call him as a success as a captain based on one test.

Butt had potential as a captain. I don't think he ever delivered that potential fully. He would have, if he had captained for a longer period of time.

talha3
1st April 2011, 17:09
How can u not know... that was the lame excuse captain rishwat gave when they found bags of money in his hotel room the hypocrit gave an "lame" excuse which was that money found in the hotel was for his sisters wedding.... how dare he critisize the pakistan team for anything.. shame on the news channel for even allowing the pakistani nation to see his hideous face on television

oh thanks. must have missed that.

Solid Snake
1st April 2011, 17:10
Cheaters. Shouldn't. Talk.

This guy is a disgrace, can't believe anyone takes him seriously. I rather Afridi, for all his flaws, lead us to defeat after defeat after defeat than this guy or anyone else who is willing to throw away matches for his bank account.

In any case Afridi did a great job, considering the shattered remains of a team he was handed down- oh and wait just a second, whose fault was that Butt?

Wish more people thought the same way.

Savak
1st April 2011, 17:12
judging by their results over the past few years, they didn't seem at all a particularly strong ODI team. Especially sine they lost both Amir and Butt too before it started. They were beaten however.

3-1 loss against England is still a comprehensive loss. England dominated those 3 tests they won, and loss by a fairly narrow margin in that one they lost.

Australia test, yeah he was good. Bowlers performed however. Batting still struggled. But it's hard to call him as a success as a captain based on one test.

Butt had potential as a captain. I don't think he ever delivered that potential fully. He would have, if he had captained for a longer period of time.

I disagree. Butt needed to score runs to inspire the team, something i dont think he was capable of doing consistently as his career stats will show. Plus his involvement in spot fixing, god knows how many players he would have taken down that route, thank goodness he didnt captain for long.

kaalakawaa
1st April 2011, 17:16
shame. what a shame.

gameovais
1st April 2011, 17:16
Please close this and any thread where Salman Butt is giving his opinion.

How dare this piece of scum make a single comment on Pakistan cricket, the nerve he has, the audacity to come on TV and express his opinions. Well if I ever get the opportunity, I will express my opinions to him, by punching him in the face.

farsiddiqui
1st April 2011, 17:18
Can somebody lead Salman Butt to 'chullu bhar paani'? I doubt he would know what to do next, but here's hoping.

Dr Khan
1st April 2011, 17:52
Listening to Salman Butt is like Hitler giving lecture on world peace.

CricMaveRick
1st April 2011, 18:00
lolz @ Salman "...hum apne pachasi marwa liengey aur aglay ke sau mar diengey aur samjhien gey hum jeet gaye..." :butt

lol...dat was damn funny :P

Zaz
1st April 2011, 18:09
His comments are spot on Defensive attitude and excuses cost us

Sherazkhalid
1st April 2011, 19:32
Well its easy for anyone to talk when they are outside the team, but once in the team noone gives an kind of performance.

shahrukh619
1st April 2011, 19:37
Seriously, who the hell does interveiws with cheaters....

sam
1st April 2011, 19:43
Who lets this ass speak on national television?

Really sad that they bring in a cheat as an "expert".

SketchE
1st April 2011, 19:51
Seeing him on tv makes my blood boil. I don't like this South Asian culture of giving these guys sympathy and air time. Let me remind you that he hasn't even apologized to the nation. Dirt-bag piece of crap.

In England loss after loss he made up excuse of how we were in a rebuilding process and winning wasn't important bloody hypocrite. With the bowling attack he had in England Inzi/Imran/Mushtaq would have won that series had they gotten to select their batting order. Heck if we had Misbah, Yousuf, and Younis in that line up we would have won that series.

BakuGM
1st April 2011, 19:52
What a shameful cheat who was a useless cricketer and took two of the best bowlers in the world with him. Yes Asif is a charsi but that's a character flaw, Salman took advantage of Asif's shortcomings and Amir's youth. GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR FACE.

The_Real_Deal
1st April 2011, 19:54
Listening to Salman Butt is like Hitler giving lecture on world peace.

:)))

brilliant post!!

POTW!!!

wyounas
1st April 2011, 20:00
Honestly, my blood boils when I see this cheater speak on anything. I'm at a complete mental loss to figure out why people invite cheaters for the *expert* opinion. I'm pretty sure most people haven't yet read the ICC decision in its entirely ;(
IMHO, anything related to these three shouldn't be posted here. Probably it may sound as extreme but that's what it is.

abc_to_xyz
1st April 2011, 20:07
Then he went on about Afridi saying he always went in with a mentality of only reaching to the SF, he should've said I want to win the WC instead of saying I want to get to the SF. If you're only aiming to get to the semis, then you won't see winning the SF as important as if you had said you wanted to win the whole tournament.

Basically saying Pakistan got complacent after getting to the SF.

thats what I'm saying about Afridi, he only aims for semis..

Isolation
1st April 2011, 20:08
When it displayed his name

Should have said BANNED Cheating money grabbing two faced lying traitor Test Cricketer not just Test Cricketer

sam
1st April 2011, 20:18
thats what I'm saying about Afridi, he only aims for semis..

With the team he had at hand, that was aiming very, very high. :moyo

adnan yasin
1st April 2011, 20:44
Jo experienced thay 2003 aur 2007 mein unhon nay kia kar ley a?

what did the experience of 2003 and 2007 did ?

2011 team atleast wen to the semi final stage

jalalhussain
1st April 2011, 20:54
Well even though personally I detest Salman Butt now, have to agree with what he said. Afridi had always set his goals to reach the semis. He never said we want to WIN the world cup. At the press conference before the team left for the WC, Afridi said his goal was to reach the semis. The press conference after the quarter final win against the West Indies, Afridi said his goal was to reach the semis and he had done so. Now after the loss to India he said the same thing.

Take nothing away from Afridi, the man led from the front, united a fractious and broken team and awoke every single Pakistani to follow the WC. The passion was infectious, you could see the team was enjoying their game. They just choked under pressure against India. The campaign was beautiful while it lasted. The positives outweigh the negatives and it was a good to see a fighting clean squad for once.

PakWC'11Champs
1st April 2011, 20:57
Man if this guy really did spot fix, the gall of a guy to call out the seniors who put their heart and soul into winning above making money which by the court of ICC Salman Butt did not do.

Salman should have stayed away from Majeed and maybe Pakistan would have lifted the WC. But he seemed to interested in other things. Take away that greed, and you have an established opener to pair with Hafeez in Butt, the best opening bowler in the world in Amir.

Just shut up Salman. Go prove your innocence first (which you can't time after time) and then trash teammates who actually stood up for winning. Even if those teammates made poor decisions, it was based on the right intentions.

sam
1st April 2011, 20:59
Well even though personally I detest Salman Butt now, have to agree with what he said. Afridi had always set his goals to reach the semis. He never said we want to WIN the world cup. At the press conference before the team left for the WC, Afridi said his goal was to reach the semis. The press conference after the quarter final win against the West Indies, Afridi said his goal was to reach the semis and he had done so. Now after the loss to India he said the same thing.


How many fans backed Pakistan to even get to the semis?

To aim to win the WC, you need to at least have a squad that looks like winning it. A year and half of intense turmoil and pressure (thanks mainly to :butt ) and the team's come so far.

Afridi aimed over and above expectations from this squad and did really well to actually achieve them.

To all those saying all he wanted to do was reach the semis, please look up one of his interviews with Yahya Hussain before the WC where he says this team must not just make the semis, but also win them. So yeah, nothing like he wanted to get to the semis and bow out because that is all his aim was.

*sallu*
1st April 2011, 21:00
I don't care whether hes right or wrong, this guy should just shut the hell up after selling his country

Prince_Pathan
1st April 2011, 21:02
somebody should lock him and afridi in a room...see who comes out alive :afridi

my bet is on the beast

dont know why somebody who sold his country out is allowed to comment

afridi backed this douche during the wc t20 world cup...nice repaying of gratitude...

khankhan
1st April 2011, 21:04
Cheater. Fixer. He sold his country for money. thats all comes to my mind when I hear about him or think about him.
This guy is not worth talking about or talking to him .

cornered-tigers
1st April 2011, 21:09
why do you even post something that cant be trusted, i.e. from Salman Butt the traitor,

Gollum
1st April 2011, 21:10
What's next? A serial killer expressing opinions on the justice system? :butt

AZ
1st April 2011, 21:11
How many fans backed Pakistan to even get to the semis?

To aim to win the WC, you need to at least have a squad that looks like winning it. A year and half of intense turmoil and pressure (thanks mainly to :butt ) and the team's come so far.

Afridi aimed over and above expectations from this squad and did really well to actually achieve them.

To all those saying all he wanted to do was reach the semis, please look up one of his interviews with Yahya Hussain before the WC where he says this team must not just make the semis, but also win them. So yeah, nothing like he wanted to get to the semis and bow out because that is all his aim was.


according to PP poll patterns, the vast majority. :rana

we should have been more determined, what pains me the most about the defeat was that we REALLY could have been World Champions.

Looney
1st April 2011, 21:12
Where was he hiding when Pakistan was winning games ? He is just going criticize any and every captain until he is back

sam
1st April 2011, 21:14
according to PP poll patterns, the vast majority. :rana

we should have been more determined, what pains me the most about the defeat was that we REALLY could have been World Champions.

Was it the :butt smiley in the post that caught your attention, AZ? :P

Pakistan could have won the tournament and they did seem to be shaping up really well too. The toss in the semi-final was crucial, IMO. Chasing has never been Pakistan's strength and anything over 230 means the opposition is always in with a decent chance.

Batting faltered and this one time the bowlers couldn't come to the rescue.

cricketpassion
1st April 2011, 21:14
Butt need to shut his mouth , he is traitor atleast Afridi is playing for the country not for Mazhar Majeed

Prince_Pathan
1st April 2011, 21:15
Where was he hiding when Pakistan was winning games ? He is just going criticize any and every captain until he is back

lol he has a 10 year ban :))) :))) :))) :)))

the more i say it the more i laugh

kingusama92
1st April 2011, 21:20
Putting aside his infamous fixing issues; Salman Butt was correct in terms of what he stated.

The batsmen should never have folded the way they did against India. In fact, the youngsters within our batting lineup showed the seniors how to bat. They were looking to pick singles and were smashing the odd boundary. YK and Misbah were playing the "tuk tuk" game and it just ended up costing us the match.

As far as setting his goal for reaching the semis - I think Shahid Afridi was just being realistic. The team was in turmoil when he was provided with the squad. At that point in time, a realistic goal was to reach the semi-finals. However, I think he should have changed his goals after the team destroyed the Windies. Even after beating the Windies he was going on about having accomplished his goal and it seemed he was content. Not sure if it resulted in the team flopping against India, but it couldn't have had any positive effect for sure!

Theo_14
1st April 2011, 21:20
Yes he has every right to express his opinions on the teams but it really angers me when we have a player who completely destroyed the team (I won't even explain how and why) complaining about the team when he committed a thing which was ten times worse.

Why on earth should we listen to a person who decieved the Pakistan fans and cricket in general - just boils my blood hearing a person who's done that complaining about the team.

How he's considered a "expert" for a channel after what he did is just a complete joke, disgusting infact.

Savak
1st April 2011, 21:21
Its one thing to comment on the outside, its another thing being the actual captain and being involved in the thick of things.

kingusama92
1st April 2011, 21:27
Its one thing to comment on the outside, its another thing being the actual captain and being involved in the thick of things.

But, Salman didn't say anything that would require being on the inside.

Afridi's comments were defensive.

The senior batsmen were irresponsible.

Don't need to be in the thick of things to know that. :)

Looney
1st April 2011, 21:33
lol he has a 10 year ban :))) :))) :))) :)))

the more i say it the more i laugh

Yes we understand what that means but does he ? :butt

Savak
1st April 2011, 21:38
But, Salman didn't say anything that would require being on the inside.

Afridi's comments were defensive.

The senior batsmen were irresponsible.

Don't need to be in the thick of things to know that. :)

Well in this case Afridi is in a no win situation, if he had said Pakistan is desperate to win the WC, reaching the finals and lets say we lost in the quarters/semi's people would have criticized him for looking to far ahead and not focusing on one game at a time.

Afridi actually said we are looking to get into the semi's first, one game at a time, and now he is being criticized for being defensive, not ambitious etc.

So no win-win situation for Afridi. Bottomline it was Afridi who led this team, dealt with all the pressure of handling the team mates, the media, dealing with the baggage before the WC. Could Salman Butt have handled all this better? Dont think so.

I wont even bring Butt's integrity into this discussion.

Savak
1st April 2011, 21:39
Putting aside his infamous fixing issues; Salman Butt was correct in terms of what he stated.

The batsmen should never have folded the way they did against India. In fact, the youngsters within our batting lineup showed the seniors how to bat. They were looking to pick singles and were smashing the odd boundary. YK and Misbah were playing the "tuk tuk" game and it just ended up costing us the match.

As far as setting his goal for reaching the semis - I think Shahid Afridi was just being realistic. The team was in turmoil when he was provided with the squad. At that point in time, a realistic goal was to reach the semi-finals. However, I think he should have changed his goals after the team destroyed the Windies. Even after beating the Windies he was going on about having accomplished his goal and it seemed he was content. Not sure if it resulted in the team flopping against India, but it couldn't have had any positive effect for sure!

Salman Butt should look at his career average before commenting on others flopping on the big occasion.

Lara400
1st April 2011, 21:41
The audacity.

cricketpassion
1st April 2011, 21:48
imo Pakistani channels shouldnt be asking traitor his opinion about our country .

kingusama92
1st April 2011, 21:53
Salman Butt should look at his career average before commenting on others flopping on the big occasion.


Average of 36.82.

That is better than everyone except Misbah. :)

kingusama92
1st April 2011, 21:55
Well in this case Afridi is in a no win situation, if he had said Pakistan is desperate to win the WC, reaching the finals and lets say we lost in the quarters/semi's people would have criticized him for looking to far ahead and not focusing on one game at a time.

Afridi actually said we are looking to get into the semi's first, one game at a time, and now he is being criticized for being defensive, not ambitious etc.

So no win-win situation for Afridi. Bottomline it was Afridi who led this team, dealt with all the pressure of handling the team mates, the media, dealing with the baggage before the WC. Could Salman Butt have handled all this better? Dont think so.

I wont even bring Butt's integrity into this discussion.

His comments after the West Indies QF were defensive.

He stated he was content with reaching the semis.

madaboutlfc
1st April 2011, 22:02
How the mighty have fallen? from the captain of his nation to a rent a quote matchfixer..

COMEBACKID
1st April 2011, 22:23
ok they went to play till the semis but you went to england to sell your self you scum shut your mouth and sit at home you match fixer

Dr Khan
1st April 2011, 22:36
Shameless Butt, Shameless media

chui_kadoo
1st April 2011, 23:01
Super points made by Salman Butt. I couldnt have put it any better.
He hit the nail on the head on each point that he made. Word for word he was spot on.

Fireworks11
1st April 2011, 23:34
Sensible talk by Butt. He does have a smart brain.

AZ
1st April 2011, 23:41
sounded very bitter in that interview, was quite off-putting.

points were fair enough, I guess.

hasanmehmoodkhan
1st April 2011, 23:43
idc if hes right hes still a fixer

Fireworks11
1st April 2011, 23:44
Why wouldn't he be bitter?

ghalti apni pashtaraha hai

Looney
1st April 2011, 23:44
sounded very bitter in that interview, was quite off-putting.

points were fair enough, I guess.

Hadh hai yeh toh AZ bhai ne bhi keh dia :)))

AZ
1st April 2011, 23:49
ley, mainay kab usko zaroorat se zyada favour kiya hai? :butt

Taha Yousuf
1st April 2011, 23:57
Grapes are sour.................

who is talking?? Salman Butt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ULTA CHOR KOTWAL KO DAANTAY..........hahahahah

freelance_cricketer
2nd April 2011, 00:04
Its a shame to have such people come on tv and then take shots on the team :facepalm:

But actually whatever he has said is 100 percent true, just that he doesn't deserve to say all that now being a proven cheat

One_life_stand
2nd April 2011, 00:06
why are we still listening to sell out loser

madaboutlfc
2nd April 2011, 05:03
Shameless Butt, Shameless media

touche

MIG
2nd April 2011, 05:06
Reminds me of term "Open season" .....

Everyone and their grandmum has a view on Afridi except that everyone and their grandmum arent facing a prison sentence for criiminal activity!

Poison
2nd April 2011, 06:14
Stupid kh0ta should not be allowed to pass comments on cricket. Useless piece of crap.

freelance_cricketer
2nd April 2011, 07:33
Stupid kh0ta should not be allowed to pass comments on cricket. Useless piece of crap.

CRACKED ME UP :))) :asif