Do some still mock Alam after watching Misbah and Younis

[Kaka4pope]

He cannot play the strokes a la UAkmal and Shafiq but throughout his ODI career he has done one thing well, rotate the strike...

Lamented for not being able to hit out in a side that already had Akmals, Razzaq, Afridi and Misbah (when he is ready to!) he was tossed aside for this campaign.

I remain hugely dissapointed by his absence, especially given how well he and Umar Akmal bat together...

[AZ]

yes, because he is still a poor player.

[Kaka4pope]

yes, because he is still a poor player.

What exactly makes him a poor player, his decent average despite not having a prolonged stint in the side?

[Foozee]

Azhar Ali should be the replacement IMO... guys talented and looks classy when playing

[AZ]

What exactly makes him a poor player, his decent average despite not having a prolonged stint in the side?

the numbers are deceiving, he has massive improvements to make to his batting if he wants to be a long-term option.

[PakPosheeda]

If Alam has one skill, its the rotation of the strike no matter what. He cant hit out to save his life though.

[Amjid Javed]

If Alam has one skill, its the rotation of the strike no matter what. He cant hit out to save his life though.

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

[Kaka4pope]

the numbers are deceiving, he has massive improvements to make to his batting if he wants to be a long-term option.

and yet he still manages to makes scores, granted nothing huge, but run a ball 40s in the middle overs are a pretty good platform...

[WithLoveFromCanada]

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

exactly...we lost the game against India because of lack of strike rotation (i.e singles)..and not because we needed 4's or 6's in the middle overs.

Why is it that our priority is to hit sixes! I cant really understand that.

[Kaka4pope]

Azhar Ali should be the replacement IMO... guys talented and looks classy when playing

Azhar is gritty and prepared to to dig deep, which makes him excellent test material, never seen him in situations where runs need to be kept ticking over, can weather a storm though...

[Foozee]

and yet he still manages to makes scores, granted nothing huge, but run a ball 40s in the middle overs are a pretty good platform...

we don need a run a ball 40s.. or ppl who score 40s.. we need 100s dammit..100s, thats what was missing in the world cup

[Foozee]

Azhar is gritty and prepared to to dig deep, which makes him excellent test material, never seen him in situations where runs need to be kept ticking over, can weather a storm though...

indeed.. im pretty sure, he'll be the replacement..of YK

[WithLoveFromCanada]

we don need a run a ball 40s.. or ppl who score 40s.. we need 100s dammit..100s, thats what was missing in the world cup

you cant make a century just by hitting sixes. You've to play proper cricket. A run a ball 40 is what we needed to win the semi against India.

[Kaka4pope]

we don need a run a ball 40s.. or ppl who score 40s.. we need 100s dammit..100s, thats what was missing in the world cup

I think a run a ball 40 during the semi final would have been just the tonic to see us over the line....

[Riff]

Alam should be recalled. I dont care if he cant hit tallay

[Foozee]

its not only bout the semi final guys.. its every match, need a solid middle order..once set can unleash in power plays (which should be taken at the appropriate time)

[Kaka4pope]

indeed.. im pretty sure, he'll be the replacement..of YK

Yes very good list A average too, cricinfo doesnt reveal his strike rate however...but im sure it must be in the 70s, its Pak domestic cricket, they wont let you wait around...

[Riff]

exactly...we lost the game against India because of lack of strike rotation (i.e singles)..and not because we needed 4's or 6's in the middle overs.

Why is it that our priority is to hit sixes! I cant really understand that.

We are suckers of flashy batsmen :facepalm:

[AZ]

and yet he still manages to makes scores, granted nothing huge, but run a ball 40s in the middle overs are a pretty good platform...

those run a ball 40s were not in fact, run a ball.

basically play like Misbah did against India, scratchy and painful stuff only to be made up with few boundaries.

not the right kind of player to bat at 5.

[Kaka4pope]

its not only bout the semi final guys.. its every match, need a solid middle order..once set can unleash in power plays (which should be taken at the appropriate time)

Umar Akmal, Asad Shafique, Hafeez, Kamran - three proper batsmen, who can all do that...

[TigerJat]

He should've been in hte team

I would have picked him ahead of asad shafiq. At this point he should replace Misbah in the lineup

he is better than misbah for sure. I don't understand Misbah's philosophy, either he was taking money or on drugs. Why play with a dead bat in a match like that??

[PakPosheeda]

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

Where did I say there's anything wrong with it? I've been agreeing all along that unlike Misbah and Younis, he'd have rotated the strike so Asad and Umar Akmal wouldn't have been under pressure.

He should replace Younis or Misbah asap.

[Kaka4pope]

those run a ball 40s were not in fact, run a ball.

basically play like Misbah did against India, scratchy and painful stuff only to be made up with few boundaries.

not the right kind of player to bat at 5.

Alam is not one for boundaries, he just nudges it around into gaps, quite productively too...

[Foozee]

i still think Shoaib Malik should return..

so middle order looks better i think like this

3. Asad Shafiq
4. Shoaib Malik
5. Azhar Ali
6. Umar Akmal

[WithLoveFromCanada]

those run a ball 40s were not in fact, run a ball.

basically play like Misbah did against India, scratchy and painful stuff only to be made up with few boundaries.

not the right kind of player to bat at 5.

I think fawad is a good candidate to replace Younis Khan or Misbah. Either one of them. We need someone to see us through in the middle overs. Of course fawad needs to get some dollay. chotay chotay se haath hain uske but i think those are enough to take singles which he has shown time and again.

[Foozee]

Umar Akmal, Asad Shafique, Hafeez, Kamran - three proper batsmen, who can all do that...

the only proper batsman.. Hafeez, Akmals are jus.. dunno under achievers

[AZ]

Alam is not one for boundaries, he just nudges it around into gaps, quite productively too...

if he could even do that regularly then I wouldn't mind if he was in the side.

but he isn't, his best quality is hard runner between the wickets and good temperament.

sadly array of strokes, technique and timing are his worst points, and for now he is not a viable option, at least in my opinion he isn't.

[Foozee]

I would rather have Fawad Alam replace Misbah in Test Matches than in ODis

[Riff]

i still think Shoaib Malik should return..

so middle order looks better i think like this

3. Asad Shafiq
4. Shoaib Malik
5. Azhar Ali
6. Umar Akmal

Azhar Ali at 5 :O

If he is to be included in the ODI team, he needs to come at 3 imo

[talha3]

2 wrongs don't make a right...in this case make it 3. Misbah and Younis are wrong simply because they are well past their peaks. Fawad is wrong due to his technique.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

i still think Shoaib Malik should return..

so middle order looks better i think like this

3. Asad Shafiq
4. Shoaib Malik
5. Azhar Ali
6. Umar Akmal

lol azhar ali at 5???

he should be at 3 if he's in the team

[Kaka4pope]

the only proper batsman.. Hafeez, Akmals are jus.. dunno under achievers

Umar is still very young for a batsman, BUT i was referring more to the powerplays and more stroke players than say Afridi and Razzaq.

Alam is niether of those, which is why you want him batting from overs 20-35 say...like Virat does...

[Riff]

I would rather have Fawad Alam replace Misbah in Test Matches than in ODis

+1. I also dont think Fawad should be in the ODI team, but definitely in the Test team, given priority ahead of the likes of Umar Akmal

[WithLoveFromCanada]

Azhar Ali at 5 :O

If he is to be included in the ODI team, he needs to come at 3 imo

we said the same thing :bow:

[Kaka4pope]

if he could even do that regularly then I wouldn't mind if he was in the side.

but he isn't, his best quality is hard runner between the wickets and good temperament.

sadly array of strokes, technique and timing are his worst points, and for now he is not a viable option, at least in my opinion he isn't.

Well being a hard runner only works if you can make the single happen first, otherwise where do his runs come from....

[Foozee]

yess at 5.. I like Asad Shafiq at 3

maybe 4 is an option too :D

[strongman123]

But he doesnt throw his wicket away, and he consistently gets the runs. Also, he performed well in domestic cricket, he deserves a recall, and a shot at the middle order.

[AZ]

Well being a hard runner only works if you can make the single happen first, otherwise where do his runs come from....

they come against the 5th-6th bowlers of the opposition when the captain is looking to get the overs in.

Fawad has 2 shots - cut & slog over midwicket.

other than that - not much.

the way Swann and mediocre spinners like Botha tied him up in our recent ODI series was just embarrassing to watch.

[Foozee]

he needs to build muscles hehe..he looks like a small kid playing

[Kaka4pope]

they come against the 5th-6th bowlers of the opposition when the captain is looking to get the overs in.

Fawad has 2 shots - cut & slog over midwicket.

other than that - not much.

the way Swann and mediocre spinners like Botha tied him up in our recent ODI series was just embarrassing to watch.

In effect he scores off the weaker bowlers, isnt that just sensible cricket?

[strongman123]

they come against the 5th-6th bowlers of the opposition when the captain is looking to get the overs in.

Fawad has 2 shots - cut & slog over midwicket.

other than that - not much.

the way Swann and mediocre spinners like Botha tied him up in our recent ODI series was just embarrassing to watch.

I dont care how it looks, at least he wont just play it with a dead bat, and bide time ala Misbah. He will try to make runs, he is a fighter, and I do agree he struggles with spin but as long as the runs come, I dont mind.

[Foozee]

we need a strong lower order too..someone who can hit big in last 10 overs

[Mian Hassan]

His Record speaks for it self...haters can hate.... but Fawad alam will be our future captain and future permanent number 5 batsman.

[AZ]

In effect he scores off the weaker bowlers, isnt that just sensible cricket?

it would be if you had the ability to take on the better bowlers once you are set at the crease.

he does not have that.

I dont care how it looks, at least he wont just play it with a dead bat, and bide time ala Misbah. He will try to make runs, he is a fighter, and I do agree he struggles with spin but as long as the runs come, I dont mind.

fighter/support player/ nudger etc etc...

as long as the runs come? the runs should come so that they favour the side, not as a personal milestone.

[Mian Hassan]

1. Hafeez
2. Zain Abbas
3. Asad Shafiq
4. Umar Akmal
5. Fawad Alam ( he is a nudger will get Akmal and Malik on strike to play there strokes )
6. Shoaib Malik



this team should be tried

[Khan6575]

The OP comparing Alam to Misbah and Younis proves that Fawad is not a ODI player.

Its definitely a battle between the three as to who is the worse in this format. I would still give Alam the benefit of the doubt and say Misbah and Younis are worse than him.

[Kaka4pope]

we need a strong lower order too..someone who can hit big in last 10 overs

For me thats a case of Afridi and Razzaq taking a bit more responsibility, yes afridi is start limited overs bowler, but he is capable of scoring more risk aversely as his early runs against India showed.

[strongman123]

fighter/support player/ nudger etc etc...

as long as the runs come? the runs should come so that they favour the side, not as a personal milestone.

I never suggested otherwise. My reasoning was that as long as he makes the runs to support his team, I could care less whether he got them all off edges or middle of the bat. As long as he is consistent in making runs and doesn't kill the innings momentum then he should play.

[iZeeshan]

Jury's still out on Fawad, but I still think he deserves his chance.

He's been consistently performing in domestic cricket and hasn't done awfully when it comes to his changes in ODI cricket.

Definitely worth a go over Younis Khan. That guy is just awful in ODIs.

[AZ]

sure, I wouldn't care either, a edge through slip cordon can be just as good as the lofted extra cover drive.

BUT - he cannot produce when it matters.

[cricfan4ever]

at the moment should be picked for test squad and as he gets better should be inducted back into ODI team...he's the guy you want in your team who can stick out...biggest plus of Fawad is that he has great temperament, never give up attitude, and a brilliant fielder to boot which in my books gives him a huge edge!

he should definitely be in the Test squad...Malik will be the more suitable call up for ODIs as he's the last of our great ODI batsmen going around given Yousuf is no longer likely to be picked...and having Malik around will bode well for the flamboyant Umar and solid Shafiq...and I also believe we should be on the look out for 1 solid opener, and 2 aggressive middle order batsmen for the future...

[AZ]

Umar Akmal ki jaga naheen ban rahi to Fadi kahan se aayega. :kami

[AmmarAshraf]

Fawad should play test Cricket only for 1 year. Let him explore his game through that medium. Once he established himself in test Arena then include him in ODIs.


I know Selectors will never ever do that. They will select him T20s and ODIs and will drop him for Tests. :facepalm:

[tanzeel]

If you look closely enough, you'll notice that most of the people who hate him are hypocritical Afridi loving fools who sing praises of his six hitting ability all year long and take about half a second to turn on him when he fails for the umpteenth time but they still want people like that in the side over someone who's reliable but not flashy. Most sensible cricket fans would agree that he's the need of the hour and to be honest, that's the only demographic you should care for instead of getting worked up over why people hate him - they don't know cricket, why bother over them.

[AZ]

are you referring to me? because I have never been an ardent Afridi fan.

[SUNNY]

Fawad being a left hander would have been an added advantage.. we did not have any left handed batsmen in our entire squad for world cup..
i cant get how people cant see the positives when it comes to this guy..
he averages above 35 despite not having a longer run in the team on consistent basis.. cant remember any pakistani batsmen averaging above 35 since MoYo apart from Umar Akmal i guess..
he is the safest fielder we have seen in a while for Pakistan..
he recently made centuries at 100 strike rate in first class cricket.. now this shows he is working on his so called weakness.. if this is not a sign of improvement then i dont know how he can prove himself in the eyes of selectors..
we need this guy in the team.. give him couple of series to prove himself.. would love to see a middle order with Asad Shafiq, Fawad Alam and Umar Akmal for next couple of series.. I am sure scores above 300 will come with time..but yeh baat selctors ko kaun samjhaye.. :(

[tanzeel]

are you referring to me? because I have never been an ardent Afridi fan.

No, a thousand others here. I've been here long enough to know exactly who stands where on which issue and there's plenty of 15 year olds here who would take a 6-4-4-out from Afridi over a 70 ball 65 with 2 or 3 boundaries from Fawad.

[Express Pace]

Fawad can't even hold a bat, has no balance, looks like he's about to fall over when he plays a stroke.

[kingusama92]

On merit, he deserves to be in the squad. He has performed well in domestic cricket.

I think he is a player that could be worked with.

I would like to see Azhar Ali, as well.

[tanzeel]

Fawad can't even hold a bat, has no balance, looks like he's about to fall over when he plays a stroke.
Yeah, because in cricket you get awarded runs based on how pretty you look while batting. I'm sure Hafeez is a better batsman than Michael Bevan and Dhoni because he looks prettier when batting.

[Taha Yousuf]

This is so unfair for a talneted player like Fawad Alam that after making century on his debut against Newziland in NZ he was dropped. Since then he been mostly kept out of the team in all 3 formats of the game. Never given chance in any Test match in last 2 yearss after 2 matches after he made debut centruy !!!!!!!. And few chances he was given in ODIs he was thowrn in so many positions from number 3 to number 9. How u axpect him to perform well like this, and mostly when his turn of batting comes only couplf overs were remaing. Totally un just with a talented player like hi. People who talk about he don't play strokes, go and watch C.D or tape of Pakistan vs SriLank match, i think it was Semi final of Asia cup couple of years back when he was sent at number 8 and he did hit brisk 25 runs with 3 sixes in that in hardly 8 to 10 balls.
Players like Fawad Alam, Khurrum Manzoor, Khalid Latid, Sarfraz Ahmed, Sohal Khan, Hammad Azam, Junaid Khan are very talented and don't get chances like repeatedly failures Kmran Akmal, Misbah, Shahzad Ahmed, Imran (that opener).

[Express Pace]

Yeah, because in cricket you get awarded runs based on how pretty you look while batting. I'm sure Hafeez is a better batsman than Michael Bevan and Dhoni because he looks prettier when batting.

No, he's just a rubbish batsmen. Made less than 10 three times out of five matches against South Africa.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

write it somewhere - it will end up as a Punjab and rest of Pakistan debate in the end though I hope it doesnt but thats where this thread is going sadly...

[tanzeel]

No, he's just a rubbish batsmen. Made less than 10 three times out of five matches against South Africa.

As opposed to the other Tendulkars who scored 3 centuries apiece against RSA. That's the problem with our cricket, too many people prefer flash over efficiency and have the memory span of a giant penguin.

[Express Pace]

As opposed to the other Tendulkars who scored 3 centuries apiece against RSA. That's the problem with our cricket, too many people prefer flash over efficiency and have the memory span of a giant penguin.

That irrelevant, he's just as crap as our other batsmen. We can give him more chances, but he's had enough, still rubbish. I don't see the point of wasting time on a proven failure.

[srh]

If Fawad Alam can rotate the strike then I would include him in the ODI in hearbeat in place of YK or Misbah as he already has the temprament. Problem is Fawad do not rotate the strike as much as he should. Initially he was but not anymore. So bad technique can be compensated with temprament. And limited shots can be compensated with rotating the strike. As of now his positive is temprament; while his negatives are bad technique, limited shots and failure to rotate the strike.

[nabeel_1990]

Nasir Jamshed
Mohammad Hafeez
Asad Shafiq
Umar Akmal
Shoaib Malik
Shahid Afridi
Hammad Azam
Sarfaraz Ahmed

I think Fawad's only suitable for tests, what do you guys think of the above line-up or is it still weak??

[IM NOT YOU]

His Record speaks for it self...haters can hate.... but Fawad alam will be our future captain and future permanent number 5 batsman.

+1


i dont know what fawad haters are watching. they must be playing their own matches inside their head lol


fawad is a solid batsman who rotates strike with ease, runs quick between the wickets, and fields superb.

a perfect middle order batsman. completely outclasses misbah, younus, etc.

you can only keep him out of the team for so long. he will be back and he will be our premier batsman. no doubt.

[SUNNY]

write it somewhere - it will end up as a Punjab and rest of Pakistan debate in the end though I hope it doesnt but thats where this thread is going sadly...

saw this talk show with renowned Cricket journalist Suhaib Ilyas who was discussing the case of Sarfaraz Ahmed on CNBC Pakistan couple of days back.. he made a fair point that our Cricket associations themselves are not protesting against the selection of squad which is not based on merit.. no one protested against continuous selection of Kamran Akmal in the team.. I'm sure many Punjabis would be against Akmal's selection.. but at the end of the day it is the regional Cricket associations and others within the circles of authority that have to voice their concerns.. I'm sure better players who are performing consistently have supporters even outside their regions but why are these people within PCB not making any noises on selection issues is what is baffling.. and hence there is no accountability for selectors which has always been the case with PCB..

[IM NOT YOU]

That irrelevant, he's just as crap as our other batsmen. We can give him more chances, but he's had enough, still rubbish. I don't see the point of wasting time on a proven failure.



playing a middle order batsman at #6, #7, and #8 does not constitute as a 'chance'

[PakistanCricketForever!]

I think try shoaib Malik and azhar before fawad! I think he is good for test cricket but needs to wait till the oldies retire. We have a full team with hafeez and taufeeq to open and moyo, misbah, and younis in the middle order? It's bout time we get the two Y's together for at least one year

[PakPosheeda]

Fawad should play test Cricket only for 1 year. Let him explore his game through that medium. Once he established himself in test Arena then include him in ODIs.


I know Selectors will never ever do that. They will select him T20s and ODIs and will drop him for Tests. :facepalm:

Exactly. Our selectors are genius.

[IM NOT YOU]

No, he's just a rubbish batsmen. Made less than 10 three times out of five matches against South Africa.



actually, that was one of his worst series and he still made just about as many runs as younus.

go back and research again.



he averaged 30.75 in that series (you conveniently forgot his 48 and 59* not out) :)))

you also forgot that he averaged 38.5 in the England series just before that, in England ]:)))

oh and you also forgot to mention he averaged 39 in the ODI series against Australia, in Australia :)))




....now tell me which of our middle order batsman has been consistently averaging close to 40 in ODI's at a solid strike rate of 75 + consistently

[kkmix]

Fawad Alam must be brought back in place for Younis. I will still have Misbah in the team.

[Amjid Javed]

I think Future middle order shud be Asad @ 3, Umar Akmal @ 4 and Fadi @ 5

[SUNNY]

I think Future middle order shud be Asad @ 3, Umar Akmal @ 4 and Fadi @ 5

just get us one solid left handed opener and one decent wicket keeper batsman aur humari team tayyar :)

[strongman123]

I think Future middle order shud be Asad @ 3, Umar Akmal @ 4 and Fadi @ 5

That looks good, and try to get Hammad Azam in there at 6, he looks like a player capable of playing a rearguard innings.

[Express Pace]

actually, that was one of his worst series and he still made just about as many runs as younus.

go back and research again.



he averaged 30.75 in that series (you conveniently forgot his 48 and 59* not out) :)))

you also forgot that he averaged 38.5 in the England series just before that, in England ]:)))

oh and you also forgot to mention he averaged 39 in the ODI series against Australia, in Australia :)))




....now tell me which of our middle order batsman has been consistently averaging close to 40 in ODI's at a solid strike rate of 75 + consistently

Big deal if scored 48 and 59*, a quality middle order batsmen should be making solid contributions every match, not two good scores and three scores under 10 (9, 6, 1). His scores against England were 39, 20*, 64, 29, 1, hardly amazing for a #5. He isn't a future Pakistani middle order batsmen.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

Big deal if scored 48 and 59*, a quality middle order batsmen should be making solid contributions every match, not two good scores and three scores under 10 (9, 6, 1). His scores against England were 39, 20*, 64, 29, 1, hardly amazing for a #5. He isn't a future Pakistani middle order batsmen.

So by that logic U. Akmal should be out of the team:13:

[strongman123]

Big deal if scored 48 and 59*, a quality middle order batsmen should be making solid contributions every match, not two good scores and three scores under 10 (9, 6, 1). His scores against England were 39, 20*, 64, 29, 1, hardly amazing for a #5. He isn't a future Pakistani middle order batsmen.

Ok, apparently he is a proven failure, so who would you like to try out next? And don't say Malik, he is just an Indian basher, nothing more.

[eViLrAcEr]

:/ I thought you were talking about Intikhab Alam :P

[Express Pace]

So by that logic U. Akmal should be out of the team:13:

Umar Akmal has some class and a good technique, if he works on his temperament he will be a future great for Pakistan. Fawad on the other looks like he's about to fall over at the crease every time he plays a shot, he's no technique.

[IM NOT YOU]

Big deal if scored 48 and 59*, a quality middle order batsmen should be making solid contributions every match, not two good scores and three scores under 10 (9, 6, 1). His scores against England were 39, 20*, 64, 29, 1, hardly amazing for a #5. He isn't a future Pakistani middle order batsmen.



wow a YOUNG PAKISTANI batting at #6 against England IN ENGLAND in an odi series averaging 38.5 is not good enough in your eyes?

i wonder when you started watching cricket?



oh and p.s, younus khan made scores of 0, 3, and 19 vs south africa as well. whats the difference? how did younus just walk into the team and take fawads spot after fawad had averaged 39 vs australia and 38.5 vs england? he and younus made the same amount of runs vs south africa.

oh and how did younus khan earn the middle order spot by scoring less than 25 FOUR OUT OF FIVE MATCHES vs new zealand :))))

i bet you will dodge all of those questions. :)))




fawad alam is averaging 38 after only 25 ODI innings, that too batting at #6 or later, most of the time at the death overs, he is 25 years old, and you have written him off already?


:)))

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

Umar Akmal has some class and a good technique, if he works on his temperament he will be a future great for Pakistan. Fawad on the other looks like he's about to fall over at the crease every time he plays a shot, he's no technique.

Kia class kah achaar dalnaah hai, if he is not scoring runs.

[Express Pace]

wow a YOUNG PAKISTANI batting at #6 against England IN ENGLAND in an odi series averaging 38.5 is not good enough in your eyes?

i wonder when you started watching cricket?



oh and p.s, younus khan made scores of 0, 3, and 19 vs south africa as well. whats the difference? how did younus just walk into the team and take fawads spot after fawad had averaged 39 vs australia and 38.5 vs england? he and younus made the same amount of runs vs south africa.

oh and how did younus khan earn the middle order spot by scoring less than 25 FOUR OUT OF FIVE MATCHES vs new zealand :))))

i bet you will dodge all of those questions. :)))




fawad alam is averaging 38 after only 25 ODI innings, that too batting at #6 or later, most of the time at the death overs, he is 25 years old, and you have written him off already?


:)))

Pakistan were looking a for a classy solid middle order batsmen with good technique proven at the highest level, and Younis Khan fits the bill. He doesn't average over 50 in test matches by luck. We couldn't risk a place on a tried and tested failure like Fawad who has no technique. We have enough of those in the team already.

[Express Pace]

Kia class kah achaar dalnaah hai, if he is not scoring runs.

That is because of his poor temperament, nothing to do with his batting capabilities. His innings against India showed his class when all the others were struggling.

[strongman123]

Umar Akmal has some class and a good technique, if he works on his temperament he will be a future great for Pakistan. Fawad on the other looks like he's about to fall over at the crease every time he plays a shot, he's no technique.

So you will give Umar Akmal time to improve his temperment because his technique is good. While you wont give Fawad Alam time to improve his technique while his temperment is good?

Serious double standards, and most people just dont like his batting because its unorthodox and because he makes runs through singles and doubles rather than boundaries, pretty ridiculous.

[IM NOT YOU]

Pakistan were looking a for a classy solid middle order batsmen with good technique proven at the highest level, and Younis Khan fits the bill. He doesn't average over 50 in test matches by luck. We couldn't risk a place on a tried and tested failure like Fawad who has no technique. We have enough of those in the team already.



who are you to tell him that his technique is bad?

the guy is averaging 57 in domestic cricket and 39 in ODI's and he is only 25 years old batting at #6 or lower in international cricket.


heck i would make the argument that since he has the highest pakistani first class average EVER, that all the other players have bad technique and should start batting like fawad.

i mean seriously now, our domestic bowlers are no joke, otherwise how would be bring such an abundance of high class international bowlers out of nowhere out of our system.


the numbers dont lie.

39 AVG VS AUSTRALIA IN AUSTRALIA

38.5 AVG VS ENGLAND IN ENGLAND.


according to these numbers, his technique is just fine. i think you should think about changing your batting technique if you can put up numbers like that.:)))

[Express Pace]

who are you to tell him that his technique is bad?

the guy is averaging 57 in domestic cricket and 39 in ODI's and he is only 25 years old batting at #6 or lower in international cricket.


heck i would make the argument that since he has the highest pakistani first class average EVER, that all the other players have bad technique and should start batting like fawad.

i mean seriously now, our domestic bowlers are no joke, otherwise how would be bring such an abundance of high class international bowlers out of nowhere out of our system.


the numbers dont lie.

39 AVG VS AUSTRALIA IN AUSTRALIA

38.5 AVG VS ENGLAND IN ENGLAND.


according to these numbers, his technique is just fine. i think you should think about changing your batting technique if you can put up numbers like that.:)))

Domestic system must be full of pie chuckers, Sarfraz Ahmed averages 43, and he can't bat at all. Big difference between domestic and international standard. These two batsmen have excellent domestic averages but when playing for Pakistan can't hold a bat.

[IM NOT YOU]

Domestic system must be full of pie chuckers, Sarfraz Ahmed averages 43, and he can't bat at all. Big difference between domestic and international standard. These two batsmen have excellent domestic averages but when playing for Pakistan can't hold a bat.



how did he average 39 vs AUSTRALIA in australia then?


how did he average 38.5 vs ENGLAND in england?


must have been a lot of lucky shots :)))

[Express Pace]

So you will give Umar Akmal time to improve his temperment because his technique is good. While you wont give Fawad Alam time to improve his technique while his temperment is good?

Serious double standards, and most people just dont like his batting because its unorthodox and because he makes runs through singles and doubles rather than boundaries, pretty ridiculous.

He should be given more chances if he improves his technique. It's a lot easier to improve mental aspect of your game than the physical aspect.

[AmmarAshraf]

Domestic system must be full of pie chuckers, Sarfraz Ahmed averages 43, and he can't bat at all. Big difference between domestic and international standard. These two batsmen have excellent domestic averages but when playing for Pakistan can't hold a bat.

Its not Domestic. Its DOOMestic :ik

[IM NOT YOU]

It's a lot easier to improve mental aspect of your game than the physical aspect.

this statement right here proves you know nothing about professional sports.

[Riff]

He should be given more chances if he improves his technique. It's a lot easier to improve mental aspect of your game than the physical aspect.

:)))

[MajidBhuta-AamirFan]

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

strike rotation doesn't work when you have avg over 7-8, it can only work if required runrate around 5-6. so you must need both skills to get into odis side, otherwise u r usless like younis khan and misbah in the final!

he can play test cricket but without hitting power and proper rotate of strike u shouldn't even close to dressing room of odi team.

i think lot of team should have learned lesson how indian played in final after losing two wickets.. every single indian batsmen in the worldcup has the both skills rotate the strike and can hit whenever it it needed.
fawad alam has only 1000 runs in all formats around 60 matches, his avg is totallay mislead for many here!.

i think he is ok for test cricket but nowhere near in odis and specially in t20.

[Express Pace]

this statement right here proves you know nothing about professional sports.

Umar Akmal has less chance of improving his concentration than Fawad actually developing a technique after 26 years?

[kkmix]

strike rotation doesn't work when you have avg over 7-8, it can only work if required runrate around 5-6. so you must need both skills to get into odis side, otherwise u r usless like younis khan and misbah in the final!

he can play test cricket but without hitting power and proper rotate of strike u shouldn't even close to dressing room of odi team.

i think lot of team should have learned lesson how indian played in final after losing two wickets.. every single indian batsmen in the worldcup has the both skills rotate the strike and can hit whenever it it needed.
fawad alam has only 1000 runs in all formats around 60 matches, his avg is totallay mislead for many here!.

i think he is ok for test cricket but nowhere near in odis and specially in t20.

going by your logic, Amla and Trott are rubbish, they are not suitable for ODIs.

[Express Pace]

how did he average 39 vs AUSTRALIA in australia then?


how did he average 38.5 vs ENGLAND in england?


must have been a lot of lucky shots :)))

He also averaged 18 against Sri Lanka, and 30 against SA.

[Express Pace]

:)))

Fawad going to develop technique after not having any for 26 years? Or is it more likely Umar Akmal will concentrate on his game. One is much likelier than the other.

[strongman123]

He should be given more chances if he improves his technique. It's a lot easier to improve mental aspect of your game than the physical aspect.

I present you with :

Afridi
Imran Nazir
Mohammad Hafeez
Imran Farhat
Kamran Akmal

[Express Pace]

I present you with :

Afridi
Imran Nazir
Mohammad Hafeez
Imran Farhat
Kamran Akmal

Being brainless is another thing all together. That's a list of brainless cricketers. Can't improve size your brain.

[Riff]

Fawad going to develop technique after not having any for 26 years? Or is it more likely Umar Akmal will concentrate on his game. One is much likelier than the other.

:facepalm: Why are you avoiding his averages in England and Australia? His technique works for him, what is so hard to understand.

He doesnt bat to arouse viewers

[talha3]

Being brainless is another thing all together. That's a list of brainless cricketers. Can't improve size your brain.

OK, so give a list of players (international) who have improved their mental game over time?

[Express Pace]

:facepalm: Why are you avoiding his averages in England and Australia? His technique works for him, what is so hard to understand.

He doesnt bat to arouse viewers

Why are you avoiding his 3 out of 5 under 10 scores against SA in SA? How did his technique work for him there?

[Express Pace]

OK, so give a list of players (international) who have improved their mental game over time?

Captain of the WC winning team, MS Dhoni.

[Express Pace]

Yuvraj Singh is another.

[MajidBhuta-AamirFan]

going by your logic, Amla and Trott are rubbish, they are not suitable for ODIs.

comparing amla and trott with fawad alam, i couldn't stop laughing for hours! amla and trot start thier innings with boundaries. just check the number of boundaries from these two batsmen

[Saqlain_doosra]

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

Yes and he would have been good addition in this tournament but team decided to have big players. Lets hope he is given good run in the odi team now.

[tahaqureshi]

Big deal if scored 48 and 59*, a quality middle order batsmen should be making solid contributions every match, not two good scores and three scores under 10 (9, 6, 1). His scores against England were 39, 20*, 64, 29, 1, hardly amazing for a #5. He isn't a future Pakistani middle order batsmen.

Dude that is a ridiculous expectation from someone who doesn't even know whether they'll be in the team the next game let alone the next series.

Did you know that Tendulkar only averaged 33.00 roughly 4 years after he debuted? If the Indians hadn't persisted with him he would've never become the legend that he is. Its called patience and putting faith in your players.

Fawad has never got that kind of faith. At least give him a proper run after the WC. We have nothing to lose.

[Express Pace]

Dude that is a ridiculous expectation from someone who doesn't even know whether they'll be in the team the next game let alone the next series.

Did you know that Tendulkar only averaged 33.00 roughly 4 years after he debuted? If the Indians hadn't persisted with him he would've never become the legend that he is. Its called patience and putting faith in your players.

Fawad has never got that kind of faith. At least give him a proper run after the WC. We have nothing to lose.

Okay, deal.

[Riff]

Why are you avoiding his 3 out of 5 under 10 scores against SA in SA? How did his technique work for him there?

Other Pakistan batsmen fail too, i.e. Umar. Youre acting like everyone scores consistently.

Explain this Sherlock, Umar averages 36 and Fawad averages 39. If his poor technique, makes him warrant a place ahead of Umar, then why not?

Just accept that you like batsmen that arouse you with their style :facepalm:

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

He should be given more chances if he improves his technique. It's a lot easier to improve mental aspect of your game than the physical aspect.

Whats the bottom line - scoring run consistently. Does not matter if it is because of temperament or technique. They should both be out of the team working on their individual short comings with your logic.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

strike rotation doesn't work when you have avg over 7-8, it can only work if required runrate around 5-6. so you must need both skills to get into odis side, otherwise u r usless like younis khan and misbah in the final!

he can play test cricket but without hitting power and proper rotate of strike u shouldn't even close to dressing room of odi team.

i think lot of team should have learned lesson how indian played in final after losing two wickets.. every single indian batsmen in the worldcup has the both skills rotate the strike and can hit whenever it it needed.
fawad alam has only 1000 runs in all formats around 60 matches, his avg is totallay mislead for many here!.

i think he is ok for test cricket but nowhere near in odis and specially in t20.

I'll wait for the day when you will change your username to Majid Bhuta - FawadFan

[Zoab_Khan]

The criteria for selecting young guys is domestic. In domestic he is one of the best performers. Add to it that his international record is pretty good. He has played against Aus, S.A, SL and India.

Do we really need any more players that hit boundaries only? We need at least 2 - 3 players that can hit in the gap and take singles, doubles in overs 7-30.

I think from the young lot Fawad Alam should be given a pro-long chance at #4.

Shoaib Malik in the team? Sorry screw that.

[Express Pace]

Other Pakistan batsmen fail too, i.e. Umar. Youre acting like everyone scores consistently.

Explain this Sherlock, Umar averages 36 and Fawad averages 39. If his poor technique, makes him warrant a place ahead of Umar, then why not?

Just accept that you like batsmen that arouse you with their style :facepalm:

Key difference Umar is a youngster, he's only 20. Secondly he has a 100 and 7 50s to his name already. Thirdly, he scores his runs more rapidly than Fawad, this is needed in ODI cricket.

[AZ]

The criteria for selecting young guys is domestic. In domestic he is one of the best performers. Add to it that his international record is pretty good. He has played against Aus, S.A, SL and India.

Do we really need any more players that hit boundaries only? We need at least 2 - 3 players that can hit in the gap and take singles, doubles in overs 7-30.

I think from the young lot Fawad Alam should be given a pro-long chance at #4.

Shoaib Malik in the team? Sorry screw that.

if criteria is domestic then Farhat will easily walk back into the team on merit.

is that acceptable to you?

[Umerr]

I used to hate Alam because he was always unable to hit boundaries , but seeing Misbah bat in the Semi final I really missed him. Time to bring him back , but he would be a much better fit if he improves his bowling too.

[Bongo]

Fawad Alam must be given a prolonged run in the team, in both ODIs and test matches. So what if he doesn't have the physique and is unorthodox?
Look at Chanderpaul?

I know that performance at domestic level is not a good representation at Intl level but what else have we got to go on? His domestic average cannot be ignored.

I would take a nudger who runs aggressively and fields brilliantly above the current middle order crop any day. If he comes in at 5-6, consistent singles, 2s and the odd boundary would be fine, or he can always come up the order.
OK he may not be able to hit the massive sixes but we don't need him for TWENTY20.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

if criteria is domestic then Farhat will easily walk back into the team on merit.

is that acceptable to you?

So now you want to compare Fawad with Farhat:facepalm:

Do you know how many chances Farhat got compared to Fawad and please also inlcude how many of those games Farhat has played in different positions and also how consisently he was played in a series (meaning he got a chance to play in series). When you have this information, we can debate on this comparison.

[pakcricketfan]

He will be back in the ODI side very soon. He can easily replace Misbah/Younis.
I'd love to see our ODI middle order comprising of Asad, Fawad, Umar and Hammad in future.

It's the Test side where a comeback is looking rather tough for him even though it is a format to which he is most suited. :(

if criteria is domestic then Farhat will easily walk back into the team on merit.

is that acceptable to you?

Why exactly will Farhat 'easily' walk into the team based on domestic stats? There are MANY other batsmen in domestic cricket with far better records than him. Farhat doesn't even feature in the top 30 batsmen if you check the rankings.

Secondly, Farhat is a tried and tested failure at international level. Fawad is NOT. (But I know you would never agree to this).

[Fireworks11]

Alam can't hit a boundary. Misbah/YK can't take singles or hit a boundary.

Alam wins.

[AZ]

^ haha PCF ji, for me he is also a TTF, as you well know. :fawad

[Riff]

Key difference Umar is a youngster, he's only 20. Secondly he has a 100 and 7 50s to his name already. Thirdly, he scores his runs more rapidly than Fawad, this is needed in ODI cricket.

Ive stated earlier that I went Fawad only in the Test team. Im just trying to say that technique isnt a issue, if it works for you

[Fireworks11]

^ haha pcf ji, for me he is also a ttf, as you well know. :fawad

pcf?

[AZ]

PCF = pakcricketfan

[pakcricketfan]

^ haha PCF ji, for me he is also a TTF, as you well know. :fawad

Yep, that's the key.
Your standards are way too high. I wonder if there's anyone in our team who fulfils your requirements - or are all these standards, requirements etc only for Fawad :13:

[Express Pace]

Moderator fight. Cool.

[abc_to_xyz]

So whats wrong with strike rotation? we need batsmen like that in the team!

a batsman who can hold bat properly..

[strongman123]

The way Misbah batted in the semis was a way a slogger with a brain would bat. He just wasted deliveries and time until he got to the 40 over mark, and then he slogged. I would rather have someone like Fawad who will actually play an innings in the middle overs and keep the momentum, and put the team in a good position for the lower order to take it home. Also, Fawad values his wicket, which is something not a lot of Pakistani batsmen do now days.

[AZ]

Yep, that's the key.
Your standards are way too high. I wonder if there's anyone in our team who fulfils your requirements - or are all these standards, requirements etc only for Fawad :13:

bohot hain, aisi koi baat naheen hai. :shafiq

[Fireworks11]

a batsman who can hold bat properly..

And wear a helmet that fits properly.

[cricfan4ever]

like I said earlier, at the moment Fawad would be better suited to test cricket first...let him develop his game there and than we can bring him back to ODIs...and I'm a Fawad fan because of his fighter attitude!

moving forward, the focus for ODIs should be finding batsmen who can bat at 80+ SR during the middle overs...meaning take 1s n 2s consistently and hit the boundary when needed...Umar Akmal fits the bill, Shafiq showed in the WC he's gradually making progress towards this...we need 1 other batsman and that is why I feel Malik should be back as he can do all of this!

most importantly we need our batsmen to convert their 30s-40s into 70+ scores more often...also need to look for 1 left handed opener...our batting is just way too 1 dimensional with all righties...

[iHammad]

comparing amla and trott with fawad alam, i couldn't stop laughing for hours! amla and trot start thier innings with boundaries. just check the number of boundaries from these two batsmen

Jonathan Trott hasn't hit a single six in his life, and even :asif has hit one. He made about 80 vs SL in the QF, off like 110 odd balls, with only like 2 fours.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

like I said earlier, at the moment Fawad would be better suited to test cricket first...let him develop his game there and than we can bring him back to ODIs...and I'm a Fawad fan because of his fighter attitude!

moving forward, the focus for ODIs should be finding batsmen who can bat at 80+ SR during the middle overs...meaning take 1s n 2s consistently and hit the boundary when needed...Umar Akmal fits the bill, Shafiq showed in the WC he's gradually making progress towards this...we need 1 other batsman and that is why I feel Malik should be back as he can do all of this!

most importantly we need our batsmen to convert their 30s-40s into 70+ scores more often...also need to look for 1 left handed opener...our batting is just way too 1 dimensional with all righties...

Malik as his past experience shows will bat like tailender outside Sub continent. We need some with better technique

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

I dont understand what people are on about, he has been consistent (better than most of our batsmen anyways).
I would take a batsman who cannot hit boundaries but rotates the strike often, rather than block ball after ball. After all we do have power hitters at 6/7.
He definetly is more than capable lower middle oder batsman. Better than Younis and even Misbah.
That is what lacks in Misbah, strike rotation. He would make a perfect #5, because after him there are power hitters to come
And there is all chance he will come back for the WI tour.

Our middle oder should be like this: Shafiq, Umar Akmal and Fwad

[cricfan4ever]

Malik as his past experience shows will bat like tailender outside Sub continent. We need some with better technique

have you forgotten his CT 100 vs India at Capetown, SA? truth is he's statistically one of our best ODI batsmen ever! can rotate strike and hit the boundary when needed, can also hit big! what more can we ask for in the middle overs? besides his presence would mean a calmer Shafiq & Umar who won't go under pressure because their partner is blocking balls...

[jobi110]

for all those who think fawad cant hit big :)

:fawad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cr6KQ1zsdM

[strongman123]

have you forgotten his CT 100 vs India at Capetown, SA? truth is he's statistically one of our best ODI batsmen ever! can rotate strike and hit the boundary when needed, can also hit big! what more can we ask for in the middle overs? besides his presence would mean a calmer Shafiq & Umar who won't go under pressure because their partner is blocking balls...

If Malik is one of our best ODI bats in Pakistan, which has produced the likes of Inzi, Miandad, Anwar and Moyo, then that is just pathetic.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

have you forgotten his CT 100 vs India at Capetown, SA? truth is he's statistically one of our best ODI batsmen ever! can rotate strike and hit the boundary when needed, can also hit big! what more can we ask for in the middle overs? besides his presence would mean a calmer Shafiq & Umar who won't go under pressure because their partner is blocking balls...

Thats the problem with Pakistan cricket. Kamran Akmal is still in the team as a batsman because he scored a fabalous century against India. Why don't we see a bigger picture - Haven't you seen Malik batting in NZ in last tour?

[cricfan4ever]

If Malik is one of our best ODI bats in Pakistan, which has produced the likes of Inzi, Miandad, Anwar and Moyo, then that is just pathetic.

stats dont lie brother!!! and his knock against India was a match winning one in the champions trophy match...even during his captaincy he led from the front...also he's more aggressive tactician on the field...this will help Afridi as he can look to Malik for on field advice...

you can hate him all you want, but Malik is one of our best ODI batsmen for sure!

[BoiWonder]

never hated on alam. I think his inclusion in the ODI squad is essential. he should replace YK.

[cricfan4ever]

Thats the problem with Pakistan cricket. Kamran Akmal is still in the team as a batsman because he scored a fabalous century against India. Why don't we see a bigger picture - Haven't you seen Malik batting in NZ in last tour?

lol we are talking about ODI CRICKET not TEST CRICKET!!!!!!

having 3 youngsters who are still relatively inexperienced in the middle order will not be ideal...Malik is an experienced player and he will be a better influence on Shafiq & Umar than YK & Misbah in ODI format!!!

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

stats dont lie brother!!! and his knock against India was a match winning one in the champions trophy match...even during his captaincy he led from the front...also he's more aggressive tactician on the field...this will help Afridi as he can look to Malik for on field advice...

you can hate him all you want, but Malik is one of our best ODI batsmen for sure!

Please provide some backup of your claim that Malik led from front during his captaincy. Also mention the who were the oponents and how much he contributed in those games as bowler.

His overall stats are not very good looking either. He is just another bits and pieces player.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

lol we are talking about ODI CRICKET not TEST CRICKET!!!!!!

having 3 youngsters who are still relatively inexperienced in the middle order will not be ideal...Malik is an experienced player and he will be a better influence on Shafiq & Umar than YK & Misbah in ODI format!!!

Better influence for youngers :))) - Last time I checked he was out of the team because he was a bad influence in the team, creating divisions and politics.

[cricfan4ever]

I also wouldn't mind inclusion of Fawad Alam as back up in ODI squad but our 1st choice middle order should be...

3) Shafiq
4) Umar
5) Malik

also have heard plenty about Naveed Yasin...Umar Amin is also a good prospect...

we also need to find a solid opener to partner with Hafeez...also Hafeez needs to start converting his 30s to big scores otherwise selectors should examine his performances as well with the bat as he was picked as a specialist batsman FIRST, his bowling is a bonus...

[cricfan4ever]

Please provide some backup of your claim that Malik led from front during his captaincy. Also mention the who were the oponents and how much he contributed in those games as bowler.

His overall stats are not very good looking either. He is just another bits and pieces player.

how the hell is he a bits and pieces player when he avgs. 35+ with the bat??? and around 35 with the ball! something which even Hafeez can't do??? hafeez is what you call a bits and pieces player!!!

[Zoab_Khan]

AZ,
what comparison is their between " Romi" and Alam? Even the domestic numbers their is a big difference. "Romi" has given hundreds of chances in tests and ODI and we all know why. He has been blamed for match-fixing in IPL ......

Romi is a opener, Alam is a middle order guy.
Here is a comparison if you must.
Pure hitter - tie.
Overall batsman - Alam
Fielder - Alam
Bowling - Alam.

[Zoab_Khan]

Hafeez is Mr. Mirza with better cricketing brain and better bowling skills.

Remember when Mirza was asked to open, he would clearly say "hell no"
He only prefers to bat at #6 and would score nicely when match was already over.
Plus this guy lives in India now. Why should he play for Pakistan anymore?

[cricfan4ever]

Hafeez is Mr. Mirza with better cricketing brain and better bowling skills.

Remember when Mirza was asked to open, he would clearly say "hell no"
He only prefers to bat at #6 and would score nicely when match was already over.
Plus this guy lives in India now. Why should he play for Pakistan anymore?

a cricketing brain so bright that he played the most dreadful shot anyone could ever play in a WC Semi-Final!!! :facepalm:

[AZ]

AZ,
what comparison is their between " Romi" and Alam? Even the domestic numbers their is a big difference. "Romi" has given hundreds of chances in tests and ODI and we all know why. He has been blamed for match-fixing in IPL ......

Romi is a opener, Alam is a middle order guy.
Here is a comparison if you must.
Pure hitter - tie.
Overall batsman - Alam
Fielder - Alam
Bowling - Alam.

bhai you made the point about domestic performance.

Farhat, Fawad and Faisal Iqbal are the leading performers in Pentagular Trophy.

[Systematicx0x]

It is laughable that we have people here constantly attacking Fawad's technique, yet they support people like Mohammad Hafeez, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik and Misbah whose techniques are terrible and are a walking wicket the moment the ball starts swinging an inch or moving off the pitch.

It is evident by their overseas records, on pitches where the ball moves. Their feet are nailed to the ground, they play way away from the body reaching outside off, they play across the line to balls coming in and get bowled or lbw in the process. All these guys have played for Pakistan for at least or over 10 years and are supported constantly by either biased or fans with lower IQ.

Javed Miandad then should not have ever played ODI cricket. Doesn't matter that he won us more ODIs then any other Pakistani cricketer on big occasions. Do some research and see how many 4s and 6s Javed used to hit in his innings.

Talking about his technique, get a clue people. You have a guy who scores BIG, hits huge hundreds and even hit one in Test Cricket against a very good and varied attack. He knows how to take singles and doubles which is NEED THE MOST in our batting in the middle order at the moment. We already have 4-5 six hitters in the team.....there has to be a balance if we're to ever be successful and consistent in our batting.

People who keep talking about Fawad's technique, have you ever looked at Chandarpaul's? or Pieterson with his huge shuffle and playing across? Now do I really need to tell you guys how many runs they have scored all over the world?

Newsflash: Except for Asad Shafiq, and Younis Khan (when he doesn't reach for balls outside off and plays within himself) EVERY SINGLE Pakistani batsman in our ODI line up at the moment, has a suspect technique to play fast bowling on bouncy swinging conditions.
Fawad scores over most of these guys because he does what they DON'T.....that's being able to rotate the strike and not gift his wicket away. He does what all great middle order batsmen do and have done. Minimize the risk, cover the line of the ball, play within yourself and keep the score board ticking by just nudging the ball around in gaps. Does not let pressure of required run rate build too much, when boundaries are hard to come by. This has been our biggest problem.

If you fans still can't get that, then we deserve to be in the dump of the Cricket world we are in. Wait til we go overseas again to England, South Africa or Australia....it will be a horror show again by your great "Six hitting dashers".

[coy0607]

Umar Akmal has some class and a good technique, if he works on his temperament he will be a future great for Pakistan. Fawad on the other looks like he's about to fall over at the crease every time he plays a shot, he's no technique.

dont go by looks, they can be deceiving, umar amin looked like brian lara....why is everyone so infatuated by how alam looks when batting, fact is in limited chances hes produced results, at the bare minimum he should be given a consistent run before we start judging his bating

[DragonTide]

Guys there's no point arguing. I've noticed that people who usually mock Fawad are those with limited capacity for intelligent thought. Their knowledge of cricket is pedestrian at best. They would rather have a team of 11 mindfarts like Afridi than mentally strong cricketers like Fawad and Shafiq because they probably only tune in to see the first and last 10 overs of a full ODI anyway. If you ask them what type of food they would prefer, I can guarantee you 99% of them will say fast food as compared to gourmet food. No point arguing,sorry.

My apologies to anyone who came up with a better argument than 'he can't hit a six'; I don't mind debating with you, really.

[cricfan4ever]

It is laughable that we have people here constantly attacking Fawad's technique, yet they support people like Mohammad Hafeez, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik and Misbah whose techniques are terrible and are a walking wicket the moment the ball starts swinging an inch or moving off the pitch.

It is evident by their overseas records, on pitches where the ball moves. Their feet are nailed to the ground, they play way away from the body reaching outside off, they play across the line to balls coming in and get bowled or lbw in the process. All these guys have played for Pakistan for at least or over 10 years and are supported constantly by either biased or fans with lower IQ.

Javed Miandad then should not have ever played ODI cricket. Doesn't matter that he won us more ODIs then any other Pakistani cricketer on big occasions. Do some research and see how many 4s and 6s Javed used to hit in his innings.

Talking about his technique, get a clue people. You have a guy who scores BIG, hits huge hundreds and even hit one in Test Cricket against a very good and varied attack. He knows how to take singles and doubles which is NEED THE MOST in our batting in the middle order at the moment. We already have 4-5 six hitters in the team.....there has to be a balance if we're to ever be successful and consistent in our batting.

People who keep talking about Fawad's technique, have you ever looked at Chandarpaul's? or Pieterson with his huge shuffle and playing across? Now do I really need to tell you guys how many runs they have scored all over the world?

Newsflash: Except for Asad Shafiq, and Younis Khan (when he doesn't reach for balls outside off and plays within himself) EVERY SINGLE Pakistani batsman in our ODI line up at the moment, has a suspect technique to play fast bowling on bouncy swinging conditions.
Fawad scores over most of these guys because he does what they DON'T.....that's being able to rotate the strike and not gift his wicket away. He does what all great middle order batsmen do and have done. Minimize the risk, cover the line of the ball, play within yourself and keep the score board ticking by just nudging the ball around in gaps. Does not let pressure of required run rate build too much, when boundaries are hard to come by. This has been our biggest problem.

If you fans still can't get that, then we deserve to be in the dump of the Cricket world we are in. Wait til we go overseas again to England, South Africa or Australia....it will be a horror show again by your great "Six hitting dashers".

I am a Fawad fan, but even I admit he needs to work on his technique for him to be successful in the long term which is why I advocate for him to be in the Test side first so he can develop himself further and than gradually be brought back into ODI team...though I wouldn't mind him being back up in ODI squad or even batting at no.5...

[Systematicx0x]

My point again, that applies to almost every single Pakistani batsman, they ALL DO. So why only single Fawad out? He's got what we need, yet he doesn't get to play because he doesn't look "pretty" to our knowledgeable and intelligent fans.
I'll ask again, just explain Chandarpaul, Pieterson and Miandad then.

[AZ]

no idea who you 2 are talking about, plenty of people have made valid points against him.

"he can't hit a six" not being one at all.

[cricfan4ever]

My point again, that applies to almost every single Pakistani batsman, they ALL DO. So why only single Fawad out? He's got what we need, yet he doesn't get to play because he doesn't look "pretty" to our knowledgeable and intelligent fans.
I'll ask again, just explain Chandarpaul, Pieterson and Miandad then.

I am not saying he shouldn't be playing I am saying that by working on his technique he will become an even better batsman because he has the ingredients to be a great test batsmen cuz of his strong temperament and his appetite for runs! there's nothing wrong in trying to improve your play!

Gambhir is a prime example of what can be achieved once a player works on his game...I remember how he was a mediocre batsmen about 6 yrs ago and today he's one of the batsmen going around in both Tests & ODIs in a team full of batting maestros!!!

[Systematicx0x]

no idea who you 2 are talking about, plenty of people have made valid points against him.

"he can't hit a six" not being one at all.

Care to explain any of those "Valid" points....valid being the key word there? Going by you lot's thinking, pretty much none of our batsmen should play as they all have terrible technique when the ball moves....then why are you repeatedly targeting Fawad? Supporting Shoaib Malik, Misbah and Kamran Akmal and then rejecting Fawad due to his technique really is strange and laughable.

Read my post above, I asked several questions to you guys there, at least try and answer some of them to prove your point. Explain to me how Miandad was so successful by just rotating the strike and hardly ever scoring in 4s. How Chandarpaul is so successful with a worst technique then Fawad or why Pieterson has scored so many runs. Miandad's technique was no picture perfect either, he never looked pretty, plenty of people attacked it early but we all know what he did for pakistan and where he stands in our record books right?

As of right now, all I see is regional Bias, low IQ or lack of intelligence and knowledge.

[AZ]

low IQ? lol.

rich coming from someone who's formula for fast bowling was beef and hashish.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=114985&highlight=fawad

that thread has plenty of answers, read it and enjoy.

[Systematicx0x]

I provided direct quotes from people who have done it, yet you...are just all talk. You specially who started the "supporting Kamran Akmal threads" , and who repeatedly tried to convince others that Junaid Khan was chucking....proves my point, low IQ. You with your loose mouth being an Admin. on this board itself is a joke.
Looks familiar?
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=89030

Now back to what I asked:
Care to explain any of those "Valid" points....valid being the key word there? Going by you lot's thinking, pretty much none of our batsmen should play as they all have terrible technique when the ball moves....then why are you repeatedly targeting Fawad? Supporting Shoaib Malik, Misbah and Kamran Akmal and then rejecting Fawad due to his technique really is strange and laughable.

Read my post above, I asked several questions to you guys there, at least try and answer some of them to prove your point. Explain to me how Miandad was so successful by just rotating the strike and hardly ever scoring in 4s. How Chandarpaul is so successful with a worst technique then Fawad or why Pieterson has scored so many runs. Miandad's technique was no picture perfect either, he never looked pretty, plenty of people attacked it early but we all know what he did for pakistan and where he stands in our record books right?

As of right now, all I see is regional Bias, low IQ or lack of intelligence and knowledge.

[cricfan4ever]

bottom line is Fawad Alam should be very much part of our future set up in Tests & ODIs, if he's not than PCB can go to hell!

[AZ]

Chanderpaul does not have a worse technique than Fawad.

Neither did JM or KP.

if there was one thing wrong with Fawad's then one could say no worries, but that isn't so.

he's all over the place, and no chance in hell is he a top-order prospect.

naturally poor timer of the ball, takes too much time to get set and even then, poor array of strokes means he does not have many boundary shots.

for a number 5 to play that way, is unacceptable.

[farazaidi]

why would you care for the opinion of some tullay baaz .... humain aur chakkay nahi chahiye

He should be drafted in straight away in the one-day setup and I'm sure he'll eventually get the much awaited test callup soon when Misbah & YK hang their boots. For now, this would be the middle order I'd like to see in ODIs

3. Shafiq
4. Fawad
5. Umar
6. Hammad
7. Afridi
8. Sarfraz


Chanderpaul does not have a worse technique than Fawad.

Neither did JM or KP.

if there was one thing wrong with Fawad's then one could say no worries, but that isn't so.

he's all over the place, and no chance in hell is he a top-order prospect.

naturally poor timer of the ball, takes too much time to get set and even then, poor array of strokes means he does not have many boundary shots.

for a number 5 to play that way, is unacceptable.

So not true ! his timing is generally very good. People only remember his laborous 40 odd when Razzaq scored that amazing hundred, but his breezy 39 & 61 in England were completely different innings. And when have you seen him taking him 20 dot balls to settle down? he is a busy player on the field and is always on the lookout for 1s and 2s from ball one. I dont what are you talking about here, he hasnt had any such slowish start to his innings at all.

As for his array of strokes, yes there is room for improvement but it is not as limited as some posters make it to be. He has played some important cameos in T20s despite of that.

Lastly, he should be batting at 4 in ODIs

[cricfan4ever]

^^^ there's only one problem with that, batting till no.8 again! :facepalm:

this strategy failed us in the biggest match of our lives! we have to return to our traditional strength of 3 fast bowlers and 1 specialist spinner (Ajmal) supported by all-rounders (Afridi n Hafeez)

if Hammad is a wicket taker than we can go with that line up...

but we have to go back to 7-4 line up for ODIs!!!

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

Chanderpaul does not have a worse technique than Fawad.

Neither did JM or KP.

if there was one thing wrong with Fawad's then one could say no worries, but that isn't so.

he's all over the place, and no chance in hell is he a top-order prospect.

naturally poor timer of the ball, takes too much time to get set and even then, poor array of strokes means he does not have many boundary shots.

for a number 5 to play that way, is unacceptable.

Fawad has to change his last name to Butt to get to your liking or have to be resident of the world's greatest city. Isn't it:yk

[AZ]

I deeply resent what you're suggesting.

if you can't argue based on the cricket, then don't bother trying.

[Fireworks11]

Why mention Butt? Yousuf is also from Lahore.

[Express Pace]

Fawad can't even hold a bat, laughable he is considered a future middle order batsmen

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

I deeply resent what you're suggesting.

if you can't argue based on the cricket, then don't bother trying.

I am afraid your knowledge of professional cricket does not warrant a fruitful discussion:moyo

You are better off policing this forum :P

[cricfan4ever]

Fawad can't even hold a bat, laughable he is considered a future middle order batsmen

yet he avgs. 41 in test cricket and 38 in ODIs! and this is after he has constantly batted under pressure...never has he come into bat with the team in commanding position...NEVER!!! just check his record from Australia tour and onwards which is when he finally started to play in ODIs regularly before he was dropped again before the WC for inexplicable reasons...and also he played a solitary test in NEW ZEALAND before the Australia tour in which he made 29 & 13 and was than dropped unfairly from the test side for future tours whereas failures like Farhat & Faisal Iqbal continued to play in starting XI! :facepalm:

[AZ]

I am afraid your knowledge of professional cricket does not warrant a fruitful discussion:moyo

You are better off policing this forum :P

careful, don't fall over while you back track.

[Fireworks11]

Fawad > Farhat

[DragonTide]

WOAH!!! Dude, AZ, did you actually start a 'Support Kami' thread AFTER the Sydney test debacle??!
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=89030

I think it's fair to say THAT, right there, is the end of not only this argument with you, but also the next 950,435,785, 321 arguments; solely on the basis of the fact that alone. The fact that you spoke out in support a player who was single handedly responsible for the most controversial test-match in Pakistan cricket; yet you are hell-bent in your dislike for a genuninely good cricketer despite the statistics and examples being presented in this thread indicates that there is something very VERY wrong here. I am afraid to say this, but there is only one reasonable explanation which someone has pointed out elsewhere in this thread. Shame man, real shame.

[Express Pace]

Averages 41 in test cricket lol has played 2 matches! YK averages 50 after 200 matches.

[Express Pace]

Very racist anti-punjab sentiments in this thread.

[Fireworks11]

Anyone but Farhat.

[cricfan4ever]

Averages 41 in test cricket lol has played 2 matches! YK averages 50 after 200 matches.

YK avgs. 50 after 67 tests or so! and if you have seen Fawad bat, you know that he has it in him to become a great test batsman...even I admit he needs to work on his game for bigger & better results...and this will only happen once he's drafted into the Test side and given a proper run before making conclusions about him and PCB hires a good full time batting coach who can work with the youngsters in improving their batting...to take them to the next level!

[Fireworks11]

People thinking AZ has a preference for cricketers that are from Lahore. Lol.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

Averages 41 in test cricket lol has played 2 matches! YK averages 50 after 200 matches.

Yes bud - thats what the whole point. Some genius:butt concluding his faith after just 2 matches. Give poor guy some more consistent opportunities before judjing his fate.

[AZ]

WOAH!!! Dude, AZ, did you actually start a 'Support Kami' thread AFTER the Sydney test debacle??!
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=89030

I think it's fair to say THAT, right there, is the end of not only this argument with you, but also the next 950,435,785, 321 arguments; solely on the basis of the fact that alone. The fact that you spoke out in support a player who was single handedly responsible for the most controversial test-match in Pakistan cricket; yet you are hell-bent in your dislike for a genuninely good cricketer despite the statistics and examples being presented in this thread indicates that there is something very VERY wrong here. I am afraid to say this, but there is only one reasonable explanation which someone has pointed out elsewhere in this thread. Shame man, real shame.

I have absolutely zero dislike for Fawad, I am simply not convinced of his ability.

if you're not interested in a debate because of something totally unrelated, then be my guest and don't indulge, but don't give lame excuses such as those.

Akmal at that stage had played a very good tour of NZ, and had done well in the 1st Test, so my support of him - or any other player who has ever had a rough game - was not unfounded.

as for the suggestions you and TMK are putting forward, I would be very careful of what I say next, because it will only end badly for one party here, and it won't be me. :)

[farazaidi]

as for the suggestions you and TMK are putting forward, I would be very careful of what I say next, because it will only end badly for one party here, and it won't be me.

ofcourse it would be, as you can edit their posts :yk

[AZ]

and a lot worse.

[Fireworks11]

Misbah, Malik and Kamran all have a better technique than Fawad. Kamran is probably the weakest out the three.

Fawad will be given a run though, such is the merry-go-round team selection in Pak cricket.

[Express Pace]

Maybe Fawad should be given a chance in the test team, he scored a big 100 and was dropped for no reason.I don't think it will end well with his technique but he deserves a chance.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

People thinking AZ has a preference for cricketers that are from Lahore. Lol.

There is nothing wrong with this. Fans do support their local players more compared to other players. In UK fans support their local football players and this true for other sports as well. I myself have a soft corner for Gul :gul:P

[farazaidi]

Misbah, Malik and Kamran all have a better technique than Fawad. Kamran is probably the weakest out the three.

Fawad will be given a run though, such is the merry-go-round team selection in Pak cricket.

big LOL at that. Malik is a nobody, only a half decent seamer can make him dance on his tunes. Its a farce that a batsman with such mediocre technique has opened the innings for us so many times and struggles against the new ball on each and everyone of those occasions.

Misbah is decent at best, his technique is overrated. He dont have many gears, either block of blasts. And his block is with a very dead bat, almost as if he doesnt play a shot at all. It can be suicidal against quality seamers as we saw against Brett Lee in this WC. Fawad can manage spinners 10xtimes better than him.

As for Kamran, contrary to your opinion, I think he has the best technique in the given lot. Not perfect still, lunges forward too much to feel the ball and can be easily unsettled if you tie him down for a period of time. Also have this thing to fish for balls at a drivable length outside off stump, irrespective of the match situation. Too inconsistent thou for a top order batsman

Fawad deserves to play as a batsman ahead of those 3, its a no-brainer.

[coy0607]

I have absolutely zero dislike for Fawad, I am simply not convinced of his ability.



i dont understand this...we been trying guys with good techniques/ability who play great shots, but when is the last time we found a decent batsmen, someone who averages over 40 in test cricket (and thats not asking much nowadays), i dont think theirs been anyone since younis khan in the late 90's

if you have a guy whos produced so heavily in domestic cricket, why not give him atleast an extended run, hes deserved his chance

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

I have absolutely zero dislike for Fawad, I am simply not convinced of his ability.

if you're not interested in a debate because of something totally unrelated, then be my guest and don't indulge, but don't give lame excuses such as those.

Akmal at that stage had played a very good tour of NZ, and had done well in the 1st Test, so my support of him - or any other player who has ever had a rough game - was not unfounded.

as for the suggestions you and TMK are putting forward, I would be very careful of what I say next, because it will only end badly for one party here, and it won't be me. :)

Thanks for heads up - Col. AZ

[Fireworks11]

There is nothing wrong with this. Fans do support their local players more compared to other players. In UK fans support their local football players and this true for other sports as well. I myself have a soft corner for Gul :gul:P

I guess everyone is different. :P

[AZ]

i dont understand this...we been trying guys with good techniques/ability who play great shots, but when is the last time we found a decent batsmen, someone who averages over 40 in test cricket (and thats not asking much nowadays), i dont think theirs been anyone since younis khan in the late 90's

if you have a guy whos produced so heavily in domestic cricket, why not give him atleast an extended run, hes deserved his chance

was referring soley to limited overs formats :)

in Tests, no doubt he was given a very rough deal, dropping someone one Test after they made a ton is shocking.

[Fireworks11]

big LOL at that. Malik is a nobody, only a half decent seamer can make him dance on his tunes. Its a farce that a batsman with such mediocre technique has opened the innings for us so many times and struggles against the new ball on each and everyone of those occasions.

Misbah is decent at best, his technique is overrated. He dont have many gears, either block of blasts. And his block is with a very dead bat, almost as if he doesnt play a shot at all. It can be suicidal against quality seamers as we saw against Brett Lee in this WC. Fawad can manage spinners 10xtimes better than him.

As for Kamran, contrary to your opinion, I think he has the best technique in the given lot. Not perfect still, lunges forward too much to feel the ball and can be easily unsettled if you tie him down for a period of time. Also have this thing to fish for balls at a drivable length outside off stump, irrespective of the match situation. Too inconsistent thou for a top order batsman

Fawad deserves to play as a batsman ahead of those 3, its a no-brainer.

Are you forgetting Malik's 147* he made as an opener in SL? Kamran is too fishy outside off stump. Misbah has the best technique out of the lot. Watch him.

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

was referring soley to limited overs formats :)

in Tests, no doubt he was given a very rough deal, dropping someone one Test after they made a ton is shocking.

Wonder who is back tracking now - The Col. himself:P

[AZ]

Wonder who is back tracking now - The Col. himself:P

lol aisi koi baat naheen hain, I already mentioned that his temperament is his plus point, he does put a price on his wicket.

but TC is also the sternest examination of one's technique, so let's see.

right now its very tough though, even Umar Akmal can't get a game there.

[Fireworks11]

Fawad is probably the best fielder in Pakistan.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

Okay lets have a poll. AZ please create one. Let the democracy rule.

[Fireworks11]

Anyways, expecting Fawad's name in the squad today.

[strongman123]

Fawad can fall all over the place, hold the bat incorrectly, wear a helmet bigger than his head, and play spin like a club cricketer, but as long as he is making runs at a good strike rate, he should not be dropped. He is the highest scorer in the recently concluded first class tournament, and he deserves a recall.

[pakistanigoneaussie]

At the end of the day fawad cound not win us a game when we
needed 20 of 18 balls with 3 wickets left. He shouldn't be at
5 beacuse he can't be a finisher and I don't think his technique
is good enough for the top order

[pakcricketfan]

Moderator fight. Cool.

There's a difference between a "fight" and a "debate". :)


bohot hain, aisi koi baat naheen hai. :shafiq

Name them, please. :)

Averages 41 in test cricket lol has played 2 matches! YK averages 50 after 200 matches.

That's the point. He was dropped after a couple of games even though he scored a big hundred. Can someone be treated rougher than that?
The likes of Faisal, Farhat, Malik etc etc get a chance after chance after chance despite failing every time. At least give him a chance to play before discarding him!

bhai you made the point about domestic performance.

Farhat, Fawad and Faisal Iqbal are the leading performers in Pentagular Trophy.

BUT both Farhat and Faisal are NOT as consistent as Fawad in domestic cricket. Both these players have one or two good tournaments and they get a national call-up which is definitely not the case with Fawad.

lol we are talking about ODI CRICKET not TEST CRICKET!!!!!!

having 3 youngsters who are still relatively inexperienced in the middle order will not be ideal...Malik is an experienced player and he will be a better influence on Shafiq & Umar than YK & Misbah in ODI format!!!

Sorry but that made me LOL big time.

Maybe Fawad should be given a chance in the test team, he scored a big 100 and was dropped for no reason.I don't think it will end well with his technique but he deserves a chance.

Now you're talking. :)
This is precisely what many of his fans have been saying all along. He deserves a chance. He may succeed or he may not. But you've got to give him a chance to see what he does!

[cricfan4ever]

mate I am a supporter of Fawad as well and he should be part of our ODI & Test squad moving forward!

[pakcricketfan]

Anyways, expecting Fawad's name in the squad today.

I was expecting his name in the squad too (especially after him topping the highest run scorer list in the recently concluded Pentangular Cup).
But I don't feel too hopeful after reading the Geo Super ticker which said that Chairman PCB Ijaz Butt is against Fawad's selection for the Windies tour. :po:
Hope this is just another incorrect guess by Geo. :|

[GOAT]

why would you care for the opinion of some tullay baaz .... humain aur chakkay nahi chahiye

He should be drafted in straight away in the one-day setup and I'm sure he'll eventually get the much awaited test callup soon when Misbah & YK hang their boots. For now, this would be the middle order I'd like to see in ODIs

3. Shafiq
4. Fawad
5. Umar
6. Hammad
7. Afridi
8. Sarfraz



The best possible line up in my opinion. One feels there's a lack of experience but if we have a batting coach it won't be a problem.

I wouldn't hold my breathe on Fawad and a Test call up though, by the time Younis and Misbah retire I'm sure we'll have a new flavour of the month that gets a go. It might even be someone deserving :aali

[pakcricketfan]

mate I am a supporter of Fawad as well and he should be part of our ODI & Test squad moving forward!

Yep, I know.
I was talking about the malik part. No offence. :D

[Theo_14]

Right im backing pakcricketfan and other fans of Fawad Alam here as I'm a fan of him too.

Fawad Alam is a strange case - he's one of those victims who has been sadly developed/treated by the PCB - I mean how on earth do you expect a young batsman to reveal his full potential on the pitch when he is being played in a format where it doesn't suit his natural style of play when it comes to batting?

It's more then clear - Fawad Alam has a mind set of 'forming a partnership with his fellow batting partner' - Alam likes to softly hit the ball through the gaps and look for the 1,2s and 3s - now that kind of play clearly shows that his style of play is suited to test cricket, infact his style of batting is 'quite' similiar to Asad Shafiq.

PCB's poor developing has potraited Fawad Alam in a negative way - his batting position, batting role and the format he was playing in was completey wrong and therefore we failed to witness the best out of him.

Overall I'd prefer him in the longer format of the game - it may not suit his physical side of him but there's many batsman in the past as weak/small in him who have suceeded and there's no doubt that his style of play is suited to test cricket - the poor boy just needs a run of games and let adapt to one format and one position, preferably a midde order batsman or even a opener if Hafeez continues to fail in the longer format of the game.

[AZ]

disagree with the 'unsuitable formats' argument.

the player himself says he is good enough for all 3.

moreover, he made his name in the T20 format in domestic cricket, and that is how he came into the limelight.

he is better for Tests or whatever, they are mere excuses.

[farazaidi]

I wouldn't hold my breathe on Fawad and a Test call up though, by the time Younis and Misbah retire I'm sure we'll have a new flavour of the month that gets a go. It might even be someone deserving :aali

Well right now, Akmal jr. too is carrying the drinks so I doubt if its happening anytime soon. Unless ofcourse, the rumours about YK rested for WI tour are true and we might see Fawad in the test squad atleast, if not in the playing XI.

[Mian Hassan]

Fawad Alam's figure's speak for it self you guys can moan and argue as long as you want...

I know one thing if Fawad Alam would have been in the middle order against india

3. Asad
4. Fawad
5. Umar

i know 100% that we would have won that cup..

Younis khan and Misbah combined wasted around 12 overs...

younis made around 3 of 33
and misbah before he started hitting

20 of 46..... which is over 12 overs.....


I can put my house on the fact that Fawad alam would have had a strike rate of 80 or more with or without hitting boundaries.

as far as Ijaz butt is concerned i hope i don't come him accross in life because i will punch him in the face so hard he will regret being chairman...he such a big liar .... lying everytime he talks....

in every interview comes out ( i don't have say in selection )... you buffoon you are making the squad

[IM NOT YOU]

Fawad Alam's figure's speak for it self you guys can moan and argue as long as you want...

I know one thing if Fawad Alam would have been in the middle order against india

3. Asad
4. Fawad
5. Umar

i know 100% that we would have won that cup..

Younis khan and Misbah combined wasted around 12 overs...

younis made around 3 of 33
and misbah before he started hitting

20 of 46..... which is over 12 overs.....


I can put my house on the fact that Fawad alam would have had a strike rate of 80 or more with or without hitting boundaries.

as far as Ijaz butt is concerned i hope i don't come him accross in life because i will punch him in the face so hard he will regret being chairman...he such a big liar .... lying everytime he talks....

in every interview comes out ( i don't have say in selection )... you buffoon you are making the squad




agree 100%