Should Afridi Be Sacked as T20 Captain?

[BoomBoomCricket]

-Afridi has won 1 out of his last 8 T20s as captain & that win was a dead rubber against New Zealand on Thursday December 30th 2010 when the series was already lost. Generally a very poor record for a team who were former champions.

-Since fully taking over the LO captaincy Afridi has won only 5/16 T20s as skipper including a gentle victory against Bangladesh.

-Pakistan might be missing players like Malik and Mohammad Aamir in the Twenty20 format who were instrumental in the 2009 triumph, but today West Indies were missing their star players & still got the job done AND also during the New Zealand series the Kiwis were without Vettori and Brendon but still successfully defeated Pakistan 2-1.

His personal performances in this format have not been up to the mark either & as matter of principle he has to take on the responsibility for the defeats being in the hot seat.

From title holders to minnows.

Should Afridi be sacked as T20 captain?

Will Pakistan enter the next T20 WC with a new captain?

[kkmix]

There is very little a captain can do when top 5 batsmen keep failing game after game. Most of the loses have been due to poor batting, and there nothing a captain can do when 2 batsmen are out in the middle. Sure he has a big hand in bowling changes and field placement, and that generally has been good.

[cricfan4ever]

part of the reason for poor performance is playing wrong team combination...that is a huge factor...our last T20 series win was vs Aus in England last summer 2-0...we had Butt, Kami, Umar, and Malik as our top 4 batsmen!!!

also, Afridi has been disappointing tactically in T20 as well...

[BoomBoomCricket]

There is very little a captain can do when top 5 batsmen keep failing game after game. Most of the loses have been due to poor batting, and there nothing a captain can do when 2 batsmen are out in the middle. Sure he has a big hand in bowling changes and field placement, and that generally has been good.

Forget about today solely. Overall his captaincy in this format has been disgracefully poor. A significant reason for the team decline in 20/20s.

[w8in_4_0402]

Blame the captain because he told Shahzad and Hafeez to play those shots.

Blame Afridi because he porbably told misbah to play fast, which he did he got out on a duck.

Blame Afridi for Umar Akmal dismissial.

Blame Afridi because he didn't send on form Ajmal who made 21 in before himself!!

And Blame Afridi for playing below Sammys standards and conceding 30 runs and only managing 12 with the bat.

Blame Afridi for this loss.

Pleaseeeee hang Afridi!!

[cricfan4ever]

Blame the captain because he told Shahzad and Hafeez to play those shots.

Blame Afridi because he porbably told misbah to play fast, which he did he got out on a duck.

Blame Afridi for Umar Akmal dismissial.

Blame Afridi because he didn't send on form Ajmal who made 21 in before himself!!

And Blame Afridi for playing below Sammys standards and conceding 30 runs and only managing 12 with the bat.

Blame Afridi for this loss.

Pleaseeeee hang Afridi!!

if you got nothing constructive to say than just stay out of this thread...be objective and not blind!

[kkmix]

Forget about today solely. Overall his captaincy in this format has been disgracefully poor. A significant reason for the team decline in 20/20s.

I don't see any solid proof of that. And I don't see how any other captain would've made any difference.

[w8in_4_0402]

Forget about today solely. Overall his captaincy in this format has been disgracefully poor. A significant reason for the team decline in 20/20s.

What can a Captain change??

He can only work with what he is given.

Shahzad has not managed to stay on his feet lately.

Hafeez plays good now and then, when he is on the verge of being dropped.

Its one match after Wc and you want a change in captaincy???

3 different captains???

[Dr Khan]

When a captain pronounces at toss that the tour for him is like vacation, then what else you expect??

Afridi likes glamor, attention and lame light. He runs away from responsibility. We will never become a force to reckon with under a captain whose intelligence is questionable.

He is a valuable player but a captain and leader, he never was and never will be

[w8in_4_0402]

if you got nothing constructive to say than just stay out of this thread...be objective and not blind!

constructive ???

We lost T20 series to England (just after spot fixing scandal)

We lost to RSA

We lost 2-1 to NZ (due to batting collapses)

Now we lost to Windies.

Why blame the captain and for what??

Our Batsmen Top 6 weren't able to chase down 150 where a tail ender like Ajmal managed 21 runs with proper cricketing shots as far as i can remember.

[w8in_4_0402]

When a captain pronounces at toss that the tour for him is like vacation, then what else you expect??

Afridi likes glamor, attention and lame light. He runs away from responsibility. We will never become a force to reckon with under a captain whose intelligence is questionable.

He is a valuable player but a captain and leader, he never was and never will be

Before him it wasn't all Fhantastic :yk, now was it!

And this is only a T20 as many say!

Wait for the ODI series to conclude,before you have sacked your captain.

[miandadrules]

I don't think sacking him is the answer.

Firstly there is no viable alternative. However, we do need to bring in a strategist in to the coaching staff. Afridi has to show a willingness to learn the art of captaincy which at the moment he hasn't.

That said if he continues to cost us games through poor decision making and doesn't show improvement, then we do need to start looking elsewhere.

At the moment I do feel we need to let this side settle and take shape and then judge him.

[kkmix]

When a captain pronounces at toss that the tour for him is like vacation, then what else you expect??

Afridi likes glamor, attention and lame light. He runs away from responsibility. We will never become a force to reckon with under a captain whose intelligence is questionable.

He is a valuable player but a captain and leader, he never was and never will be

He isn't a good captain but there is no other option.

[cricfan4ever]

constructive ???

We lost T20 series to England (just after spot fixing scandal)

We lost to RSA

We lost 2-1 to NZ (due to batting collapses)

Now we lost to Windies.

Why blame the captain and for what??

Our Batsmen Top 6 weren't able to chase down 150 where a tail ender like Ajmal managed 21 runs with proper cricketing shots as far as i can remember.

selection of playing XI lies with Afridi...we have been playing wrong team combination for far too long and results are for everyone to see...from T20 Champions to T20 Chumps in a space of 2 yrs...

[w8in_4_0402]

selection of playing XI lies with Afridi...we have been playing wrong team combination for far too long and results are for everyone to see...from T20 Champions to T20 Chumps in a space of 2 yrs...

Let's be honest man the team that won the T20 was far better than we have had for years now.

Many players hit golden patches at the right time.

Ajmal,Afridi,Amir,Razzaq,Yk,Kami where in top form back then.

Your reallt think

1.Hafeez
2.Kami
3.Malik
4.Umer Akmal
5.Misbah
6.Afridi
7.Razzaq


would have lost today??

[BoomBoomCricket]

In this format specifically the 3 key requirements to be successful are: selection, strategy and form. All of these are in the hands of the captain & he has to be held accountable. He is by far the worst T20 captain Pakistan have had by a country mile. How I wished we had a "Younis Khan" like champion captain right here and right now! He was strategically & tactically outstanding.

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

There is very little a captain can do when top 5 batsmen keep failing game after game. Most of the loses have been due to poor batting, and there nothing a captain can do when 2 batsmen are out in the middle. Sure he has a big hand in bowling changes and field placement, and that generally has been good.
THIS.
And also wrong team selection, selecting test players for T20's.

[*sallu*]

No options.

Those who have a cemented spot in LOI side are too inexperiences (Wahab, Umar etc) and those who are more experienced, are not definites in the side

[BoomBoomCricket]

No options.

Those who have a cemented spot in LOI side are too inexperiences (Wahab, Umar etc) and those who are more experienced, are not definites in the side

Options

-Abdul Razzaq for T20 WC 2012. He will bat himself at number 3 guaranteed. He deserves the honour as a farewell.

-Imran Nazir. Captained successfully domestically & if they really think out of the box who knows.

-Misbah Ul Haq. Has captained once before in T20s internationally & Pakistan defeated Australia in the UAE. For the 2012 T20 WC he could be a very suitable & even idealistic choice to conclude his LO or even overall career.

Many more as well.........

[Love Pakistan]

Sad about the loss but I am used to it now... :facepalm:

[Pak_NM]

^^^ Nazir and Razzaq are not even in the squad, not sure how they can be captain. Misbah needs to retire from T20 asap awell.

No credible alternatives so answer is no.

[BoomBoomCricket]

^^^ Nazir and Razzaq are not even in the squad, not sure how they can be captain. Misbah needs to retire from T20 asap awell.

No credible alternatives so answer is no.

Razzaq is still part of the plans for T20 cricket. He wants to have a swansong next year. However, for ODIs he is finished. The T20 and ODI squad was announced together as one overall. Hence, he is not selected NOW but he is not totally out of contention. Think big!

Misbah is not going anywhere anytime soon either.

[Fireworks11]

He is the best option atm. Yes, results have been poor but mainly due to bad team performances rather than incompetant captaincy.

[cricfan4ever]

Let's be honest man the team that won the T20 was far better than we have had for years now.

Many players hit golden patches at the right time.

Ajmal,Afridi,Amir,Razzaq,Yk,Kami where in top form back then.

Your reallt think

1.Hafeez
2.Kami
3.Malik
4.Umer Akmal
5.Misbah
6.Afridi
7.Razzaq

would have lost today??


I would not have Misbah in my team at any costs for T20 or ODIs!!! and that is what I said, we have been playing wrong team combination...even today the exclusion of Hammad was baffling to say the least considering he's replacing Razzaq!

[BoomBoomCricket]

Absolutely mind baffling why Hammad has not been selected today. He better play the ODIs. Surely? You need a 3rd seamer of some sort for ODIs so he has to play on this factor alone.

[Watsupdoc]

Yes and Misbah should be made captain :misbah

[Fireworks11]

BoomBoomCricket,

Hammad should play in the ODIs.

[cricfan4ever]

it would be utter stupidity if Hammad doesn't play in ODIs!!!

1) Hafeez
2) Shehzad
3) Shafiq
4) Umar
5) Misbah
6) Hammad
7) Afridi
8) Salman
9) Riaz
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

[insaaniyat]

In this format specifically the 3 key requirements to be successful are: selection, strategy and form. All of these are in the hands of the captain & he has to be held accountable. He is by far the worst T20 captain Pakistan have had by a country mile. How I wished we had a "Younis Khan" like champion captain right here and right now! He was strategically & tactically outstanding.

No, I am sorry. You cannot hold Afridi responsible for losses, as you must have noticed the responses. You can only hold him accountable, when and if the team wins.

[Watsupdoc]

it would be utter stupidity if Hammad doesn't play in ODIs!!!

1) Hafeez
2) Shehzad
3) Shafiq
4) Umar
5) Misbah
6) Hammad
7) Afridi
8) Salman
9) Riaz
10) Ajmal
11) Ajmal

You want Ajmal to play twice? :O well why not after all he batted better than most of our top order batsmen...

[cricfan4ever]

You want Ajmal to play twice? :O well why not after all he batted better than most of our top order batsmen...

lol it was a typo, I fixed it to Junaid...see above...but good point! :)))

[surprise-package]

it would be utter stupidity if Hammad doesn't play in ODIs!!!

1) Hafeez
2) Shehzad
3) Shafiq
4) Umar
5) Misbah
6) Hammad
7) Afridi
8) Salman
9) Riaz
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

This is the team which should have played. They were playing a batter short today in a game which is made for batsmen......Hammad should have played instead of Junaid or Rehman and we would have won.....How can you win a T20 or a ODI when your tail starts from number 7 ?

Afridi is technically a very poor captain and he always selects the wrong team.....

[PB]

What exactly is this going to do? We'll play the same team with some other person as captain. Do you think the same players will score 50 after 50 just because the person who controls the field and decides when the bowlers bowl etc, will change our T20 performances?

We're not going to become unbeatable by changing captains..Ofcourse not. The T20 team is all wrong. Plus I think they didn't even care about this T20 since most of the players playing were more ODI players...Misbah, Asad etc...

[Justcrazy]

In this format specifically the 3 key requirements to be successful are: selection, strategy and form. All of these are in the hands of the captain & he has to be held accountable. He is by far the worst T20 captain Pakistan have had by a country mile. How I wished we had a "Younis Khan" like champion captain right here and right now! He was strategically & tactically outstanding.

I agree with you. I would just like to add that on one hand we have Afridi as a weak captain tactically and on top of that Waqar as a coach is tactically poor. So result is that there is just no chance of good tactical decision being taken.

[BoomBoomCricket]

Afridi's T20 record as captain is abysmal. He might have been one of the best T20 players in the world at one point and key in Pakistan's success in this format but he has now been a key factor for the decline and terrible dip in T20 form. If Pakistan are serious about winning the next T20 WC they must make a change. You simply cannot expect to do well in the tournament when you're going in with such a poor record under the given leader. A fresh and bold change might just be the magical spark in fortunes which are required. There are several options available. A youngster could captain & be the wiser option as it is 20/20 after all and generally a stage for youngsters to settle, impress and grow. There are several choices who could walk in this team who have proven natural "captaincy material" from the youth and first class circuit.

[BoomBoomCricket]

The very next match he is!

[Mobashir]

The very next match he is!

And our new captain is so good that I can bet all my money he is going to win his first two matches as captain.:misbah

[cricketpassion]

And our new captain is so good that I can bet all my money he is going to win his first two matches as captain.:misbah

guaranteed :asif

[BoomBoomCricket]

And our new captain is so good that I can bet all my money he is going to win his first two matches as captain.:misbah

He will win the T20 WC next year

[Azlan Khan]

He will win the T20 WC next year

He Won't Be Captain. :afridi

[Mobashir]

He will win the T20 WC next year

You need to win big matches to win a world cup not just against minnows! And to win big matches like semi finals and finals you need big players. :wasim:inzi:afridi

[Mobashir]

He will win the T20 WC next year

Just a litle bit off topic but I loved how you expressed your views on Pakistan's last 10 overs in the third ODI and also you made threads critisizing the poor team selection Misbah made in the whole series, didn't play youngsters, etc...

[Amjid Javed]

The captain we had for T20s was poor but also team selection and continual picking of players not suited to the format hasnt helped either.