Misbah Vs Tendulkar--- Amazing Stats

[masoodabbaspk786]

Eye Opening Statistics--- Following is an apple to apple contest between Tendulkar and Misbah in ODIs for their 1st 74 matches ( As misbah has only played 74 matches)

MISBAH in his 1st 74 matches

Total runs 2,183, Average = 44.55 , 16 fifties and No century

TENDULKAR in his 1st 74 Matches

Total runs 2,080, Average = 33.54 , 17 fifties and No century

Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was . But we dont respect our heroes.
Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

Please comments. Don't be bias .

[PerfectionPersonified]

already million threads on this ...go post there

[neo87]

Its AMAZING ,Misbah will become the the next Tendulkar and even better than him .He will break tendulkars all records and will be even better. He is the future of pakistan.

And he will play for 60 years ,10 years more than tendulkar.

[Garuda]

Wow, Misbah is better than Tendulkar.

How come anyone couldn't see this ? :))

I guess Tendulkar made a duck in his first match. Now get any batsman who didn't make a duck in his first match to prove he is as good as Tendulkar.

[Fireworks11]

Good post. The trouble is Misbah's age. Quite intriguing how similar his stats are to Sachin's for this period.

[cricket47]

Eye Opening Statistics--- Following is an apple to apple contest between Tendulkar and Misbah in ODIs for their 1st 74 matches ( As misbah has only played 74 matches)

MISBAH

Matches Total Runs Average 50s 100s
74 2,183 44.55 16 Nil

TENDULKAR

Matches Total Runs Average 50s 100s
74 2,080 33.54 17 Nil

Misbah is as great as Tendulkar was. But we dont respect our heroes.
Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match. let see when misbah will made.

Please comments.


Some of our pakistani fans have some serious addiction to stats, they read the stats but dont take them in context though.

-Tendulkar started out when he was 16sh if im not mistaken, and those stats reflect majority of the games he played when he was early 20's (he was still in early stages of his career)
-World bowlers feared him and still do.
-Over time Tendulkar learnt the art of batting and became the great he is today (look at his career achievements)


Misbah:-
-He has those stats at 36 yrs
-He is probably the best batsman he will ever be, he doesn't have the time Tendulkar had to learn and better his art of batting
-No one really fears him because he is not a game changer, cant win games single handedly

-Simply put.. people who think Misbah is going to be a great like Tendulkar need to wake up to the reality and stop writing while intoxicated :asif:asif:asif

[masoodabbaspk786]

Wow, Misbah is better than Tendulkar.

How come anyone couldn't see this ? :))

I guess Tendulkar made a duck in his first match. Now get any batsman who didn't make a duck in his first match to prove he is as good as Tendulkar.

My dear there is a difference in 1 inning comparison and 74 innings comparison.

[Blitz]

Woah....-_-

Stats are briiliant arn't they?

Those matches happened when Tendulker was so young, he was just getting into the 20s....

Also, you can probably find a 100 players who had a better record then Tendulker in the first 74 matches. Whats your point?

A young teenage Tendulker with little to no experience wasn't as a good as a 37 year old in ultra rare form?

[Faizan Lakhani]

haha -
good joke
You're comparing a budha with a bacha !! nice nice :) lovely, I liked your sense of humor Masood Abbas !

[Prince_Pathan]

misbah = unfairly treated initially in his career

like i said in another thread


he could have been one of our legends!...players politics as usual prevailed! and those that say he wouldnt ever have gotten in there ahead of moyo or inzi...


hes equally as consitant and i dont see why those three could not have been our middle order...certainly much better than shoaib malik


obviously cant be compared to tendulkar! the man is the greatest batsman to ever live

but then people also cant ignore whats there in writing...

just will say again...misbah was poorly handeled... thank you pcb...yet another career we havent fully seen the best of :14:

[in_cutter]

There are many other batsmen with better stats than Sachin at that stage.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Some of our pakistani fans have some serious addiction to stats, they read the stats but dont take them in context though.

-Tendulkar started out when he was 16sh if im not mistaken, and those stats reflect majority of the games he played when he was early 20's (he was still in early stages of his career)
-World bowlers feared him and still do.
-Over time Tendulkar learnt the art of batting and became the great he is today (look at his career achievements)


Misbah:-
-He has those stats at 36 yrs
-He is probably the best batsman he will ever be, he doesn't have the time Tendulkar had to learn and better his art of batting
-No one really fears him because he is not a game changer, cant win games single handedly

-Simply put.. people who think Misbah is going to be a great like Tendulkar need to wake up to the reality and stop writing while intoxicated :asif:asif:asif

Really you are true..
If tendulkar was playing for Pakistan. Selectors and critic like you will not allow him to play more than 50 matches like it happened in Pakistan. Recent Examples are Umar Amin, Fawad Alam, Azhar etc..
You wrote No one really fears him because he is not a game changer-- What about Tendulkar (In his 21 years of cricket only 1 world cup )?.

[Fireworks11]

Misbah started too late, however, you can't say that he would have been as good as Tendulkar if he started off earlier. Too many assumptions.

[pakistanigoneaussie]

This is stupid misbah is Pakistan premier domestic batsmen with more than 15 years experience while sachin was a kid, don't get me wrong misbah is an underated and sort of great player , but sachin is sachin only the the don stands before him

[Garuda]

My dear there is a difference in 1 inning comparison and 74 innings comparison.
ofcourse its as different as Tendulkar from Misbah.

[freelance_cricketer]

Indeed Sachin stands toe to toe with great Misbah, another achievement for him :sachin

[in_cutter]

What about Tendulkar (In his 21 years of cricket only 1 world cup )?.

Same old boring recycled/regurgitated argument :110: There are already mega threads discussing this.

[Sir_Afridi]

Sachin also took advantage as an opener with 15 over rule unlike Misbah

[masoodabbaspk786]

There are many other batsmen with better stats than Sachin at that stage.

Can you name anyone?
I am sure that player will be the legend of his country not like Misbah under criticism from his country fellows. we people are ??????????

[in_cutter]

Sachin also took advantage as an opener with 15 over rule unlike Misbah

And? Still have to be a good batsman to take advantage.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Same old boring recycled/regurgitated argument :110: There are already mega threads discussing this.

Dont be bored, i was only answering the question..

[MRSN]

yeah Sachin Who??

[Crazy_K]

Silly way to go about trying to show Misbah has done pretty well for Pakistan. Those who don't accept it are never gonna accept it; and showing them posts like this will just make them laugh at you and reject Misbah more.

[masoodabbaspk786]

yeah Sachin Who??

Indian hero like Misbah

[masoodabbaspk786]

Silly way to go about trying to show Misbah has done pretty well for Pakistan. Those who don't accept it are never gonna accept it; and showing them posts like this will just make them laugh at you and reject Misbah more.

I think you are indian and you know how to respect your heroes.
we will only love players like Shahid Afridi--- 4, 6, 4 and out.. wah wah wah and Pakistan thussssssss..

[amarali]

Really surprising that tendulkar made his first century in his 79th match....Misbah Quality player....Class act....cool and calm....but age factor:facepalm:
and that,s true we do not realize the abilities of our players....

[masoodabbaspk786]

Really surprising that tendulkar made his first century in his 79th match....Misbah Quality player....Class act....cool and calm....but age factor:facepalm:
and that,s true we do not realize the abilities of our players....

Thank you Amar--- This is the point i want to raise.. He is a quality player. If we cant give him the respect what he deserve we should not criticize him.

[Mobashir]

I really can't stop laughing at this thread.

[masoodabbaspk786]

I really can't stop laughing at this thread.

We all should laugh because Misbah performance is very bad and he dont deserve the place in the team.

[Fireworks11]

It's meaningless to compare the two now, no matter how the stats look.

[amarali]

I really can't stop laughing at this thread.

Now this is becoming our national attitude that once we decide to criticize a player we go on criticizing and hating him no matter how he performs.......this has to be changed....

[attock]

Eye Opening Statistics--- Following is an apple to apple contest between Tendulkar and Misbah in ODIs for their 1st 74 matches ( As misbah has only played 74 matches)

MISBAH in his 1st 74 matches

Total runs 2,183, Average = 44.55 , 16 fifties and No century

TENDULKAR in his 1st 74 Matches

Total runs 2,080, Average = 33.54 , 17 fifties and No century

Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was . But we dont respect our heroes.
Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

Please comments. Don't be bias .

Im shocked

[JibranAnsari]

why dont you compare tendulkar's last 75 matches? 7 hundreds and 20 50s with an average of 50...

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+feb+2007;spanval1=s pan;template=results;type=batting

[masoodabbaspk786]

Im shocked

Good to know.

[IgnitedMind]

Okay, Sachin was 16 to 20 at that time. He was a middle order batsmen, more like number 6 or 7 and was facing greats like wasim,waqar,walsh etc etc at that age

Where was misbah is 36 now...with 15 odd years of first class experiance . sachin I believe did not have even 1 yr of first class experiance before entering intl level(I may be wrong here..if he had should not be more than a 1 yr)..

So this is a ridicolous comparison

[Fireworks11]

If only Misbah was younger.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Okay, Sachin was 16 to 20 at that time. He was a middle order batsmen, more like number 6 or 7 and was facing greats like wasim,waqar,walsh etc etc at that age

Where was misbah is 36 now...with 15 odd years of first class experiance . sachin I believe did not have even 1 yr of first class experiance before entering intl level(I may be wrong here..if he had should not be more than a 1 yr)..

So this is a ridicolous comparison

My dear, my comparison is only to show Pakistanis that he is a great player like Tendulkar. Don,t criticize him.

[praveen]

Those stats are Misbah's best and sachin's worst. Get the point?

[IgnitedMind]

My dear, my comparison is only to show Pakistanis that he is a great player like Tendulkar. Don,t criticize him.

I believe if you are entering cricket at 30 + yrs of age..with immense first class experiance you should be able to play like an experianced cricketer and especially play much better than people who come to
international arena in their teens with out any first class experiancehis.

Dont get me wrong...Misbah is indeed a good player!!

But by doing this comparison...what u r stating is all this age, experiance did not make misbah a huge difference...as he is more or less like tendulkar in his teens!!!!

This is not the way to go if you are asking people to respect Misbah.

[Savak]

So the man who cost us the most important match of our lives is now an even better batsman than Tendulkar. Unbelievable. Misbah should be forced to retire from Pakistani cricket even if its against his will.

[jeetu]

Some players are late bloomers like masibah , to certain extent hayden who improves with age and experience. Other like tendulkar are just gifted. Credit goes to selection panel for persisting with Tendulkar despite averaging in just early 30's for first 79 matches.

[masoodabbaspk786]

I believe if you are entering cricket at 30 + yrs of age..with immense first class experiance you should be able to play like an experianced cricketer and especially play much better than people who come to
international arena in their teens with out any first class experiancehis.

Dont get me wrong...Misbah is indeed a good player!!

But by doing this comparison...what u r stating is all this age, experiance did not make misbah a huge difference...as he is more or less like tendulkar in his teens!!!!

This is not the way to go if you are asking people to respect Misbah.

Tell me the way you will be convinced that he is a great player.?
It is not his mistake that PCB has not given him the chance to play his cricket in his early age so that he can make the records and you people will give him respect. We should criticize PCB but we are criticizing Misbah for his age----- Good Thinking

[masoodabbaspk786]

So the man who cost us the most important match of our lives is now an even better batsman than Tendulkar. Unbelievable. Misbah should be forced to retire from Pakistani cricket even if its against his will.

Good thinking--- He was the only reason for Pakistani defeat.
Umar gul was amazing, Afrid was excellent, Yunus khan was brilliant and Razzaq was awesome.
There was already many threads on this topic. If you was not convinced by them so no need for more arguments.

[BoomBoomCricket]

So the man who cost us the most important match of our lives is now an even better batsman than Tendulkar. Unbelievable. Misbah should be forced to retire from Pakistani cricket even if its against his will.

Rubbish post as usual for the immature, biased and childish Savak. Nothing new here.

[ElRaja]

If only Misbah was younger.

i remember watching him when he made his debut aganst nz i think, he was already 27, he was the similar technically to today, but he didnt possess the same mental strength and hence did not make the most of his chance.

first 5 test matches, 108 run at an average of 13, and he was nearly 29 years old by then. I never thought id see him play for pak again to be honest.

[Mobashir]

My dear, my comparison is only to show Pakistanis that he is a great player like Tendulkar. Don,t criticize him.

Hahahaha, Now this is getting better and better...
Plus you stats show he is even better than Tendulkar, not just as good.
We should compare Misbah the Legend with Bradman and not with Tendulkar!

[NJamal]

Misbah is good but his disadvantage is his age.

[Mobashir]

Now this is becoming our national attitude that once we decide to criticize a player we go on criticizing and hating him no matter how he performs.......this has to be changed....

I hate Misbah Ul Haq and want him out of the team because he is a serial looser.
The guy has never won us something significant and will never.
Not mentally strong enough and not a good cricketer enough.
He is just making avegraes on batting tracks or/and agaisnt poor bowling attacks.

[zaid65]

The only similarity between Sachin and Misbah, both are 38 year old.

[BoomBoomCricket]

He could have truly been one of the highest achieving finest batsmen Pakistan ever produced if he was treated with an extended run of opportunities earlier in his career. The likes of Inzy blocked his way from making it into the team at an earlier stage when Misbah should have been playing. Inzy was a great but he advanced the careers of negatives like Butt, Kamran & Malik whereas prevented the likes of Hasan Raza & Misbah Ul Haq & even Ajmal really getting their chances to play where they deserved. Misbah was an unlucky guy who was a victim of politics in his younger days.

Nevertheless, in the proportion of matches he has played his statistics are absolutely formidable-a true high achieving figure across all formats. Splendid stuff from Pakistan's Mr Cricket. He deserves support, appreciation, praise & credit from his fan base. He is a significant team presence/asset. The intellect, consistency & stability stand out above everything else. Misbah is an absolute champion.

The run machine, solid as a rock wall, Mr Consistent, the finisher, the coolness and brightness of the team, the guider and groomer for youngsters & an excellent captain. What more could you ask for........!!!!

[Smooth_Operator]

I hate Misbah Ul Haq and want him out of the team because he is a serial looser.
The guy has never won us something significant and will never.
Not mentally strong enough and not a good cricketer enough.
He is just making avegraes on batting tracks or/and agaisnt poor bowling attacks.

High Five!

[Mobashir]

He could have truly been one of the highest achieving finest batsmen Pakistan ever produced if he was treated with an extended run of opportunities earlier in his career. The likes of Inzy blocked his way from making it into the team at an earlier stage when Misbah should have been playing. Inzy was a great but he advanced the careers of negatives like Butt, Kamran & Malik whereas prevented the likes of Hasan Raza & Misbah Ul Haq & even Ajmal really getting their chances to play where they deserved. Misbah was an unlucky guy who was a victim of politics in his younger days.

Nevertheless, in the proportion of matches he has played his statistics are absolutely formidable-a true high achieving figure across all formats. Splendid stuff from Pakistan's Mr Cricket. He deserves support, appreciation, praise & credit from his fan base. He is a significant team presence/asset. The intellect, consistency & stability stand out above everything else. Misbah is an absolute champion.

The run machine, solid as a rock wall, Mr Consistent, the finisher, the coolness and brightness of the team, the guider and groomer for youngsters & an excellent captain. What more could you ask for........!!!!

Misbah's World Cup : Vs Sri Lanka performe very well.
Vs New Zealand : Tough Situation to bat in, and he played worst than a tail ender and got out cheapely.
Vs : Australia : Agaisnt Good bowlers, again failed, made a first ball duck. Thank God it was a firs ball duck othewise he would have made 3 ball duck to loose us the match.
Vs India : Made a fifty: one of the worst innings ever played in ODI cricket...

He is the most useless cricketer ever, plays just for himself and his aerage.

[Watsupdoc]

Interesting comparaison, but like most of the people have pointed out the difference between this comparison is the huge experience.

I think a much more interesting comparison would be of what these two have achieved in the last to years (stats wise). As I think this has been the period where both of them have been in supreme touch.

Now for some stats:

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

[BoomBoomCricket]

Misbah's World Cup : Vs Sri Lanka performe very well.
Vs New Zealand : Tough Situation to bat in, and he played worst than a tail ender and got out cheapely.
Vs : Australia : Agaisnt Good bowlers, again failed, made a first ball duck. Thank God it was a firs ball duck othewise he would have made 3 ball duck to loose us the match.
Vs India : Made a fifty: one of the worst innings ever played in ODI cricket...

He is the most useless cricketer ever, plays just for himself and his aerage.

No point bothering to respond to such a useless post. People like you are a perfect representation of why some Pakistan Cricket followers lack any awareness, appreciation, seriousness & depth in their cricketing knowledge. Useless comment from a useless poster.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Interesting comparaison, but like most of the people have pointed out the difference between this comparison is the huge experience.

I think a much more interesting comparison would be of what these two have achieved in the last to years (stats wise). As I think this has been the period where both of them have been in supreme touch.

Now for some stats:

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Haters of Misbah ul Haq Go and Check----
If you are not convinced yet then????????????

[kkmix]

Interesting stats. Sachin is overrated anyways.

[Mobashir]

No point bothering to respond to such a useless post. People like you are a perfect representation of why some Pakistan Cricket followers lack any awareness, appreciation, seriousness & depth in their cricketing knowledge. Useless comment from a useless poster.

Better to post what you have just posted than trying to anwer because theire is no awnser.

I juste gave a perfect example of a tournament where Misbah ul Haq's average and Strike rate was very good but if you look at his performance it was poor.

Then, this thread is meaningless, I can find you a LOT of batsmen having better stats than Sachin Tendulkar in their first 74 matches...

[Mobashir]

Haters of Misbah ul Haq Go and Check----
If you are not convinced yet then????????????

Most of the batsmen have better stats then Sachin in first 74 matces, that doesn't mea they are as good as Sachin.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Misbah's World Cup : Vs Sri Lanka performe very well.
Vs New Zealand : Tough Situation to bat in, and he played worst than a tail ender and got out cheapely.
Vs : Australia : Agaisnt Good bowlers, again failed, made a first ball duck. Thank God it was a firs ball duck othewise he would have made 3 ball duck to loose us the match.
Vs India : Made a fifty: one of the worst innings ever played in ODI cricket...

He is the most useless cricketer ever, plays just for himself and his aerage.

Don,t forget , Misbah was the highest run getter in the world cup from Pakistan.
He played Very well against SA in UAE, against New zealand in New zealand and now performing very well against west indies in West indies.
Yaro apni aankhoon say nufrat ki puttii uttar do.

[duostyle]

Interesting comparaison, but like most of the people have pointed out the difference between this comparison is the huge experience.

I think a much more interesting comparison would be of what these two have achieved in the last to years (stats wise). As I think this has been the period where both of them have been in supreme touch.

Now for some stats:

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Misbah better than Tendu for past 2 years? How can this be true. :sachin

[kkmix]

Most of the batsmen have better stats then Sachin in first 74 matces, that doesn't mea they are as good as Sachin.

so how do you conclude Sachin is better? :))

[masoodabbaspk786]

Most of the batsmen have better stats then Sachin in first 74 matces, that doesn't mea they are as good as Sachin.

Please name anyone??? if there is one then he will be the great player of his country and Check that his country fellow hates him like you hate misbah.
i need answer from you.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Better to post what you have just posted than trying to anwer because theire is no awnser.

I juste gave a perfect example of a tournament where Misbah ul Haq's average and Strike rate was very good but if you look at his performance it was poor.

Then, this thread is meaningless, I can find you a LOT of batsmen having better stats than Sachin Tendulkar in their first 74 matches...

Go and check for the last 2 years Stats... Yet Misbah is even better than tendulkar.

[Mobashir]

Don,t forget , Misbah was the highest run getter in the world cup from Pakistan.
He played Very well against SA in UAE, against New zealand in New zealand and now performing very well against west indies in West indies.
Yaro apni aankhoon say nufrat ki puttii uttar do.


1st Point : I can' t remember Misbah perfirming well against South Africa in Abu Dhabi. Averaged 15.50 and strike under 60.
2nd Point : he was our highest run scorer in the world cup, but I prooved that when we needed his runs the most he made nothing...

[wasi90lk]

chris martin scored 3 runs in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/37700.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

tendulkar scored 0 in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

chris martin > sachin tendulkar; based on the above.

[wasi90lk]

misbah is a good batsman, but comparing him to tendulkar is not necessary.

misbah is looking good because other current pakistani batsmen are not up to the mark.

the reason misbah did not get chances in the past is because pakistan had batsmen like yousuf, ijaz ahmed, saeed anwar, inzamam etc.

[masoodabbaspk786]

1st Point : I can' t remember Misbah perfirming well against South Africa in Abu Dhabi. Averaged 15.50 and strike under 60.
2nd Point : he was our highest run scorer in the world cup, but I prooved that when we needed his runs the most he made nothing...

I was referring to the test matches against SA.
1) What about New zealand series? west indies series?
2) You have not answered me about the last 2 years comparison?
3) You have not given me the name of other player who was better than Misbah and Tendulkar in his 1st 74 matches and he was hated like Misbah by his country fellows like you.

[masoodabbaspk786]

chris martin scored 3 runs in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/37700.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

tendulkar scored 0 in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

chris martin > sachin tendulkar; based on the above.

Compare all the matches played by Martin and equivalent numbers played by Tendulkar.
I compared all the matches played by misbah and equivalent played by Tendulkar.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Those stats are Misbah's best and sachin's worst. Get the point?

Go and Check last 2 years stats. Tendulkar was best in these years with 200 scores on his name.

[LegCutter]

chris martin scored 3 runs in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/37700.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

tendulkar scored 0 in his first ever ODI innings: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting;v iew=innings.

chris martin > sachin tendulkar; based on the above.

Yes, because 1 innings is the exact same thing as 74 innings.... is it just me or has there been a huge decrease in quality of Pakpassion posts after the world cup ended?

[Syndrome]

Are you seriously comparing stats of a teenager with a 35 year old near retirement? Sachin has hit 50 ODI centuries. Just stop making a fool of yourself with stupid comparisons.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Are you seriously comparing stats of a teenager with a 35 year old near retirement? Sachin has hit 50 ODI centuries. Just stop making a fool of yourself with stupid comparisons.

Go and Compare the last 2 years-- When Misbah and Tendulkar are having the same age. Misbah average is still high , any answer?

[Statsman]

Promising younsta :misbah

[Statsman]

Sachin Vs Misbah

Last 74 matches (since Misbah has played only 74 matches)

Sachin
runs: 3383, average: 50, centuries: 7, sr: 89.2, World Cup: 1

Misbah
runs: 2183, average: 44.55, centures: 0, sr: 78.1, World Cup: 0 :D

[cricfan4ever]

Some of our pakistani fans have some serious addiction to stats, they read the stats but dont take them in context though.

-Tendulkar started out when he was 16sh if im not mistaken, and those stats reflect majority of the games he played when he was early 20's (he was still in early stages of his career)
-World bowlers feared him and still do.
-Over time Tendulkar learnt the art of batting and became the great he is today (look at his career achievements)


Misbah:-
-He has those stats at 36 yrs
-He is probably the best batsman he will ever be, he doesn't have the time Tendulkar had to learn and better his art of batting
-No one really fears him because he is not a game changer, cant win games single handedly

-Simply put.. people who think Misbah is going to be a great like Tendulkar need to wake up to the reality and stop writing while intoxicated :asif:asif:asif

this! well said! what a joke of thread!!

[Watsupdoc]

Misbah better than Tendu for past 2 years? How can this be true. :sachin

Well Misbah's average is better than Sachin's, yes. But that's not the whole story. Misbah has 5 more not outs than Sachin. :sachin has about 500 more runs than Misbah.

And :misbah has 5 less innings than Sachin. Another comparison Sachin's strike rate is higher than Misbah's.

So you make up your own mind who has been better. :sachin or :misbah

[Syndrome]

Go and Compare the last 2 years-- When Misbah and Tendulkar are having the same age. Misbah average is still high , any answer?

Last two years Sachin has averaged 56 with 6 centuries and a strike rate of almost 90. Misbah has averaged 50 with 0 centuries and a strike rate of around 75. And that average has taken a bump with his recent not outs against weak NZ and WI teams.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Sachin Vs Misbah

Last 74 matches (since Misbah has played only 74 matches)

Sachin
average: 50, centuries: 7, sr: 89.2

Misbah
average: 44.55, centures: 0, sr: 78.1

Ok I go with you..

Still Do you think that misbah stats are bad and he is a crap and you people have the right to criticize him because his average is only 44.5 not 50.

[wasi90lk]

Yes, because 1 innings is the exact same thing as 74 innings.... is it just me or has there been a huge decrease in quality of Pakpassion posts after the world cup ended?

do you think i was being very serious with that post?

the reason why i wrote that post is to show that anyone can make a pointless comparison with facts.

[Statsman]

Ok I go with you..

Still Do you think that misbah stats are bad and he is a crap and you people have the right to criticize him because his average is only 44.5 not 50.

Of course not. He's been the best Pakistani batsman and among the best in the world in recent time...

[Smooth_Operator]

Fail thread.

Sachin >>>> then 10 Misbahs.

That's why Sachin is an icon of cricket and Misbah is just a useless rock.

[Syndrome]

Misbah is a good batsman. But I can never forgive him for that innings in the semi final. If he got out with the right approach, I wouldn't mind. But he blocked and blocked and got everyone else around him under huge pressure. You can go down trying, but if you go down blocking you cannot be forgiven. Once in a lifetime match. Scores against NZ and WI are irrelevant.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Last two years Sachin has averaged 56 with 6 centuries and a strike rate of almost 90. Misbah has averaged 50 with 0 centuries and a strike rate of around 75. And that average has taken a bump with his recent not outs against weak NZ and WI teams.

You are wrong. Go and check here-- Misbah average is 60.

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

[Syndrome]

You are wrong. Go and check here-- Misbah average is 60.

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Your links don't work. But I did the cricinfo query from 1 Jan 2009 to today.

[LegCutter]

Fail thread.

Sachin >>>> then 10 Misbahs.

That's why Sachin is an icon of cricket and Misbah is just a useless rock.

This man is right. His careful argument backed by concrete proof and wisdom has shown me the light. Let there be no more debate on this topic.

[cricfan4ever]

Miss-Blah's stats are deceiving...he's playing in an era of flat wickets, and lots of his supposed 'winning' 50s have come in dead rubber matches!!! Sachin played in an era of great fast bowlers and 2 avg. 34 at such a young age is outstanding...another reason why this thread is a joke!!!

[Watsupdoc]

Misbah is a good batsman. But I can never forgive him for that innings in the semi final. If he got out with the right approach, I wouldn't mind. But he blocked and blocked and got everyone else around him under huge pressure. You can go down trying, but if you go down blocking you cannot be forgiven. Once in a lifetime match. Scores against NZ and WI are irrelevant.

Well so technically you shouldn't forgive :gul :yk :umarakmal either...

[masoodabbaspk786]

Your links don't work. But I did the cricinfo query from 1 Jan 2009 to today.

Sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

I hope it will work.

[JibranAnsari]

only that tendulkars strike rate is only 23 more in last two years and he was not out only 5 less times :D

[Mobashir]

This day has to come, people like BommBoom Cricket and the opening poster are arguing on Misbah being better than Tendulkar... the ony problem they see is that Misah is too old.
Talent wise, skill wise, statistic wise they have proven us that Misbah is better than Tendulkar.
It's a sad day for PakPassion.

[masoodabbaspk786]

[QUOTE=cricfan4ever;3765389]Miss-Blah's stats are deceiving...he's playing in an era of flat wickets, and lots of his supposed 'winning' 50s have come in dead rubber matches!!! Sachin played in an era of great fast bowlers and 2 avg. 34 at such a young age is outstanding...another reason why this thread is a joke!!![/QUOTE

What should i say.... You have very good arguments. But go and check comparison b/w Misbah and Tendulkar for last 2 years when the pitches are flat. Misbah average is higher than tendulkar.

Please compare Misbah to any other players from Pakistan during the recent time.
Another argument that Misbah is a great player in recent times.

[Statsman]

Please compare Misbah to any other players from Pakistan during the recent time.
Another argument that Misbah is a great player in recent times.

Dude your links are not working.

[masoodabbaspk786]

This day has to come, people like BommBoom Cricket and the opening poster are arguing on Misbah being better than Tendulkar... the ony problem they see is that Misah is too old.
Talent wise, skill wise, statistic wise they have proven us that Misbah is better than Tendulkar.
It's a sad day for PakPassion.

In my all arguments, i have not said that misbah is a better player than tendulkar. Go and check my thread. Reason to start this thread is only to convince you that respect your country hero who is unfairly being criticized by you.

You have not named the player who has better record than Misbah and tendulaker for his 1st 74 matches and being criticized by his country fellows.

[Watsupdoc]

Dude your links are not working.

Stats for last 2 years.

:sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

:misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

[cricfan4ever]

what Miss-Blah's done in his first 74 matches doesn't matter...he failed when it mattered the most, so now we don't give a rats a*** about him scoring against minnows!

[Statsman]

Stats for last 2 years.

:sachin - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

:misbah - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Apr+2011;spanmin1=3 0+Apr+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bat ting

Unfair Comparison since Sachin has taken rest during unimportant (read Vs minnows) tournaments

Sachin: 20 matches out of 28 Vs Top Teams : Aus 8, SA 5, SL 6, Eng 1
Misbah: 10 matches out of 25 Vs Top Teams : Aus 4, SA 2, SL 4, Eng 0

Although both have done well.

[masoodabbaspk786]

what Miss-Blah's done in his first 74 matches doesn't matter...he failed when it mattered the most, so now we don't give a rats a*** about him scoring against minnows!

Do you think, SA, West indies and newzealanders are minnows-- Gr8
If they are minnows why the other players are not performing against them? Your Afridi, Umer akmal, yunus khan etc.

[cricfan4ever]

Do you think, SA, West indies and newzealanders are minnows-- Gr8
If they are minnows why the other players are not performing against them? Your Afridi, Umer akmal, yunus khan etc.

WI & NZ are ranked below us...against SA in ODIs, he FAILED...there's ur answer...

even in Test matches in UAE vs SA, we were playing on FLAT wickets and it was YOUNIS KHAN who was more responsible for drawing the 1st test and saving us from defeat...and YOUNIS KHAN also scored 2 50s in the ODI series vs SA...one of them which came in that chase of 275 in 4th ODI...need more proof?

[Syndrome]

Unfair Comparison since Sachin has taken rest during unimportant (read Vs minnows) tournaments

Sachin: 20 matches out of 28 Vs Top Teams : Aus 8, SA 5, SL 6, Eng 1
Misbah: 10 matches out of 25 Vs Top Teams : Aus 4, SA 2, SL 4, Eng 0

Although both have done well.

Also, check out the strike rates. Misbah 72 and Sachin 95. That is a huge difference. Misbah has also racked up 7 not outs while Sachin with only 2.

[Mobashir]

In my all arguments, i have not said that misbah is a better player than tendulkar. Go and check my thread. Reason to start this thread is only to convince you that respect your country hero who is unfairly being criticized by you.

You have not named the player who has better record than Misbah and tendulaker for his 1st 74 matches and being criticized by his country fellows.

I didn't tought it was worth mentioning a name.
No need to go far away, our own captain Salman Butt.
78 matches, 2725 runs at 36.82 with 8 hundreds.

Happy?

[Syndrome]

Well so technically you shouldn't forgive :gul :yk :umarakmal either...

Theres a difference between not performing and blocking your chances out of the match. Its not as if Misbah came in with 5 or 6 down and he had to block. When he came in we had lost 3 wickets, yet he still just blocked and blocked.

[masoodabbaspk786]

WI & NZ are ranked below us...against SA in ODIs, he FAILED...there's ur answer...

even in Test matches in UAE vs SA, we were playing on FLAT wickets and it was YOUNIS KHAN who was more responsible for drawing the 1st test and saving us from defeat...and YOUNIS KHAN also scored 2 50s in the ODI series vs SA...one of them which came in that chase of 275 in 4th ODI...need more proof?

Please compare with the runs and averages in last 3 series +world cup to any other batsman.

[ads101]

Who's this tendulkar people speak of? I only know of Misbah :D

[masoodabbaspk786]

I didn't tought it was worth mentioning a name.
No need to go far away, our own captain Salman Butt.
78 matches, 2725 runs at 36.82 with 8 hundreds.

Happy?

His average is far less than Misbah but still he is the hero of many Pakistanis but Misbah with better average is being criticized by you.
i was saying that we should respect our players and make them hero of our country.

[insaaniyat]

Eye Opening Statistics--- Following is an apple to apple contest between Tendulkar and Misbah in ODIs for their 1st 74 matches ( As misbah has only played 74 matches)

MISBAH in his 1st 74 matches

Total runs 2,183, Average = 44.55 , 16 fifties and No century

TENDULKAR in his 1st 74 Matches

Total runs 2,080, Average = 33.54 , 17 fifties and No century

Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was . But we dont respect our heroes.
Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

Please comments. Don't be bias .

Its AMAZING ,Misbah will become the the next Tendulkar and even better than him .He will break tendulkars all records and will be even better. He is the future of pakistan.

And he will play for 60 years ,10 years more than tendulkar.

Why are you all so sensitive when it comes to Tendu. OP just showed the stats thats all. Criticize him if there is something wrong with his stats. Neo87 read his post carefully, the bold part. Yes we would never know how good Misbah is? He neve got a chance to play as many games as Tendu.

[ddss]

Misbah, what a beast

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/132300/132335.jpg

[Watsupdoc]

Theres a difference between not performing and blocking your chances out of the match. Its not as if Misbah came in with 5 or 6 down and he had to block. When he came in we had lost 3 wickets, yet he still just blocked and blocked.

Well, I agree his approach was wrong. But to say I won't forgive and all, that's a bit overboard. He is the backbone of the team at the moment... :misbah

[Smooth_Operator]

This man is right. His careful argument backed by concrete proof and wisdom has shown me the light. Let there be no more debate on this topic.

Indeed. :fawad

[Savak]

Why are you all so sensitive when it comes to Tendu. OP just showed the stats thats all. Criticize him if there is something wrong with his stats. Neo87 read his post carefully, the bold part. Yes we would never know how good Misbah is? He neve got a chance to play as many games as Tendu.

This comparison is an insult to the great Teenda. I implore Teenda to file a $billion dollar lawsuit against the OP for having the nerve to even mention the loser Misbah to a champion like Teenda.

[Statsman]

This comparison is an insult to the great Teenda. I implore Teenda to file a $billion dollar lawsuit against the OP for having the nerve to even mention the loser Misbah to a champion like Teenda.

To be honest, haters and fans of Sachin are both equally over sensitive...

[x2zee123]

this day has to come, people like bommboom cricket and the opening poster are arguing on misbah being better than tendulkar... The ony problem they see is that misah is too old.
Talent wise, skill wise, statistic wise they have proven us that misbah is better than tendulkar.
It's a sad day for pakpassion.

post of the week :14::14:

[Howzat]

This thread is an eye-opener. I did not have the patience to read through the whole thread. So please tell me if it's official now that Misbah is better than Tendulkar?

[cricfan4ever]

This thread is an eye-opener. I did not have the patience to read through the whole thread. So please tell me if it's official now that Misbah is better than Tendulkar?

lol to put it simply yes, that's what you can conclude from this thread according to many posts! :)))

[Watsupdoc]

This comparison is an insult to the great Teenda. I implore Teenda to file a $billion dollar lawsuit against the OP for having the nerve to even mention the loser Misbah to a champion like Teenda.

:))) I think :sachin would lose more money than gain (if any) doing that. :35:

[Garuda]

Go and Check last 2 years stats. Tendulkar was best in these years with 200 scores on his name.
Last 2 years Sachin is playing only important ODI series(SA/WC/AUS) and not WI/ZIM/NZ/BD.

And Sachin has 2 not outs and Misbah has 7.

Read the whole stat and not just what suits ur eyes. Any blind cricket fan can say the difference he has watched the matches in last two years.

[Garuda]

This thread is an eye-opener. I did not have the patience to read through the whole thread. So please tell me if it's official now that Misbah is better than Tendulkar?
Yup from whichever angle you compare. First 79 matches or last 2 years, Misbah wins :P

[Mobashir]

This thread is an eye-opener. I did not have the patience to read through the whole thread. So please tell me if it's official now that Misbah is better than Tendulkar?

Yes it' s official!
Now the all time XI is going to be something like :

Hobbs
Gavaskar
Bradman
Richards
MisbahUl Haq
Sobers
Imran Khan
......

[LegCutter]

Listen everyone, there is no DOUBT in any person's mind that Sachin is a class player and that Misbah is far far behind in what Tendulkar has accomplished in his life. We all agree on that, nobody is saying that Misbah is better than Tendulkar. The OP hasnt said that, I'm not saying that and none of the other Misbah's supporters are saying it. Tendulkar is a legend, a man with nearly 50 tons, a winner of a world cup and probably the greatest batsman of the modern era. He has the stats to back it up, he has the series victories to back it up.

BUT what the OP is trying to say is that Misbah's batting statistics so far are reminiscent of Tendulkar's statistics. That doesnt mean Misbah is a better batsman than Tendulkar. We all know statistics never tell the whole story. But it does give us a small idea that in the current Pakistani line-up filled up with loose cannons like Ahmed Shehzad, Hafeez and Akmal, Misbah has been a consistent performer with statistics that stand out above the rest of the crop, who do not have the numbers Misbah does.

Does that make Misbah the new Bradman of cricket? No it doesnt. But what it does do is make Misbah stand out in contrast to the other batsmen in our team. Here are a list of current ODI averages of our batsmen

Umar Akmal: 36.40 from 40 matches
Asad Shafiq: 31.50 from 19 matches
Ahmed Shehzad: 28.87 from 17 matches
Mohd Hafeez: 23.83 from from 95 matches

Now compare that to Misbah's 44.55 and you'll realize why the OP is trying to point out this truly remarkable statistic in Misbah's resume. Misbah may not be the big matchwinner Tendulkar is, but having an average similar to him truly makes Misbah stand out above the rest of the shoddy batsmen in the team.

[Watsupdoc]

Listen everyone, there is no DOUBT in any person's mind that Sachin is a class player and that Misbah is far far behind in what Tendulkar has accomplished in his life. We all agree on that, nobody is saying that Misbah is better than Tendulkar. The OP hasnt said that, I'm not saying that and none of the other Misbah's supporters are saying it. Tendulkar is a legend, a man with nearly 50 tons, a winner of a world cup and probably the greatest batsman of the modern era. He has the stats to back it up, he has the series victories to back it up.

BUT what the OP is trying to say is that Misbah's batting statistics so far are reminiscent of Tendulkar's statistics. That doesnt mean Misbah is a better batsman than Tendulkar. We all know statistics never tell the whole story. But it does give us a small idea that in the current Pakistani line-up filled up with loose cannons like Ahmed Shehzad, Hafeez and Akmal, Misbah has been a consistent performer with statistics that stand out above the rest of the crop, who do not have the numbers Misbah does.

Does that make Misbah the new Bradman of cricket? No it doesnt. But what it does do is make Misbah stand out in contrast to the other batsmen in our team. Here are a list of current ODI averages of our batsmen

Umar Akmal: 36.40 from 40 matches
Asad Shafiq: 31.50 from 19 matches
Ahmed Shehzad: 28.87 from 17 matches
Mohd Hafeez: 23.83 from from 95 matches

Now compare that to Misbah's 44.55 and you'll realize why the OP is trying to point out this truly remarkable statistic in Misbah's resume. Misbah may not be the big matchwinner Tendulkar is, but having an average similar to him truly makes Misbah stand out above the rest of the shoddy batsmen in the team.

Great Post! :14:

[Garuda]

Listen everyone, there is no DOUBT in any person's mind that Sachin is a class player and that Misbah is far far behind in what Tendulkar has accomplished in his life. We all agree on that, nobody is saying that Misbah is better than Tendulkar. The OP hasnt said that, I'm not saying that and none of the other Misbah's supporters are saying it. Tendulkar is a legend, a man with nearly 50 tons, a winner of a world cup and probably the greatest batsman of the modern era. He has the stats to back it up, he has the series victories to back it up.

BUT what the OP is trying to say is that Misbah's batting statistics so far are reminiscent of Tendulkar's statistics. That doesnt mean Misbah is a better batsman than Tendulkar. We all know statistics never tell the whole story. But it does give us a small idea that in the current Pakistani line-up filled up with loose cannons like Ahmed Shehzad, Hafeez and Akmal, Misbah has been a consistent performer with statistics that stand out above the rest of the crop, who do not have the numbers Misbah does.

Does that make Misbah the new Bradman of cricket? No it doesnt. But what it does do is make Misbah stand out in contrast to the other batsmen in our team. Here are a list of current ODI averages of our batsmen

Umar Akmal: 36.40 from 40 matches
Asad Shafiq: 31.50 from 19 matches
Ahmed Shehzad: 28.87 from 17 matches
Mohd Hafeez: 23.83 from from 95 matches

Now compare that to Misbah's 44.55 and you'll realize why the OP is trying to point out this truly remarkable statistic in Misbah's resume. Misbah may not be the big matchwinner Tendulkar is, but having an average similar to him truly makes Misbah stand out above the rest of the shoddy batsmen in the team.
Thats not a problem. but the OP also says

"Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was "

Which is far from true. If we make this kind of excuse, then every player who had a blast in a few years of his career would be as good as sachin or bradman.

[kkmix]

Thats not a problem. but the OP also says

"Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was "

Which is far from true. If we make this kind of excuse, then every player who had a blast in a few years of his career would be as good as sachin or bradman.

fair thing to say would be that Sachin was lucky to get lot of chances at the start of his career to prove himself.

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

All hail Misbah the legend, who is this Sachin that is being spoken about? :20:

[ShahidAfridi_rulez]

Eye Opening Statistics--- Following is an apple to apple contest between Tendulkar and Misbah in ODIs for their 1st 74 matches ( As misbah has only played 74 matches)

MISBAH in his 1st 74 matches

Total runs 2,183, Average = 44.55 , 16 fifties and No century

TENDULKAR in his 1st 74 Matches

Total runs 2,080, Average = 33.54 , 17 fifties and No century

Misbah is un lcuky that he got the chance very late otherwise he is as big player as Tendulkar was . But we dont respect our heroes.
Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

Please comments. Don't be bias .
That is very true we just dont resoect our heroes

[ShahidAfridi_rulez]

I wouldnt say misbah is rubbish and useless but u can not compare misbah with sachin he is a legend

[Fireworks11]

Misbah is not a hero.

[Garuda]

fair thing to say would be that Sachin was lucky to get lot of chances at the start of his career to prove himself.
:)) yah, that would be more true than what OP says.

[Garuda]

do we have Misbah's domestic record during that time to compare with other Pakistani player's (who were in national team) domestic records of his time ?

That would be an indicator to see if Misbah was really unlucky or was not good to be in national side during that time.

[hqmusik10]

Some of our pakistani fans have some serious addiction to stats, they read the stats but dont take them in context though.

-Tendulkar started out when he was 16sh if im not mistaken, and those stats reflect majority of the games he played when he was early 20's (he was still in early stages of his career)
-World bowlers feared him and still do.
-Over time Tendulkar learnt the art of batting and became the great he is today (look at his career achievements)


Misbah:-
-He has those stats at 36 yrs
-He is probably the best batsman he will ever be, he doesn't have the time Tendulkar had to learn and better his art of batting
-No one really fears him because he is not a game changer, cant win games single handedly

-Simply put.. people who think Misbah is going to be a great like Tendulkar need to wake up to the reality and stop writing while intoxicated :asif:asif:asif

at least there is one man who thinks correctly

[neo87]

This thread is an eye-opener. I did not have the patience to read through the whole thread. So please tell me if it's official now that Misbah is better than Tendulkar?

:))) . Its official ,Misbah the greatest ever , the legend of cricket .

[NJamal]

I don't understand why are all of the Indians so sensitive about the great TEENDA?

[farz88]

wow what a stupid thread. Comparing a failure and choker like Misbah to Tendulkar. Misbah's average is high yes but that doesnt mean anything. He just plays for himself to get that not out and 50 regardless if we win or lose the match. I guess thats what his MBA has been good for he has figured out how to make himself look like a better player than he is even though in reality he has failed.

Even in world cup i recall him playing 1 decent innings against SL. I remember him failing against Canada, Australia, NZ and ofcourse India where he made sure we lost the match. So basically he is a minnow basher who only plays for himself.

[Superpower]

I don't understand why are all of the Indians so sensitive about the great TEENDA?
As how are you sensitive for your players.....

[LegCutter]

Sigh, I give up. It's a chore to have a proper discussion on PP anymore. Nobody even cares to listen, they just read the name of Afridi, Tendulkar or somebody in the Title Post, and start throwing a tantrum without even caring to be reasonable.


Fail thread.

Sachin >>>> then 10 Misbahs.

That's why Sachin is an icon of cricket and Misbah is just a useless rock.

This comparison is an insult to the great Teenda. I implore Teenda to file a $billion dollar lawsuit against the OP for having the nerve to even mention the loser Misbah to a champion like Teenda.

:))) . Its official ,Misbah the greatest ever , the legend of cricket .

Misbah is not a hero.

I wouldnt say misbah is rubbish and useless but u can not compare misbah with sachin he is a legend

All hail Misbah the legend, who is this Sachin that is being spoken about? :20:

Its AMAZING ,Misbah will become the the next Tendulkar and even better than him .He will break tendulkars all records and will be even better. He is the future of pakistan.

And he will play for 60 years ,10 years more than tendulkar.

haha -
good joke
You're comparing a budha with a bacha !! nice nice :) lovely, I liked your sense of humor Masood Abbas !

Useless thread.....

Sachin is god of cricket....You can't compare god with anyone like misbah.

[dhonikachamcha]

:misbah looks like a promising youngster :afridi

[hur rizvi]

Some players are late bloomers like masibah , to certain extent hayden who improves with age and experience. Other like tendulkar are just gifted. Credit goes to selection panel for persisting with Tendulkar despite averaging in just early 30's for first 79 matches.

I think averaging in early 30's in that era specially in ODI's was pretty good .... and also one factor is that he was just a youngster at that time , It is worth investing in a youngster who has scored 17 fifties in 74 matches at shch a young age

As far as Misbah is concerned my personal opinion is that he would never have been a great batsman even if he had played at younger age ... I agree that he is a quality player but he never had the talent of Moyo , Inzi or Miandad

[hur rizvi]

do we have Misbah's domestic record during that time to compare with other Pakistani player's (who were in national team) domestic records of his time ?

That would be an indicator to see if Misbah was really unlucky or was not good to be in national side during that time.

Misbah has always been a consistent performer at domestic level and yes he was always unlucky not to be given a consistent chance at younger age

SEason by season stats:


http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/19/19294/f_Batting_by_Season.html


His stats are pretty good from 2003- onwards

[Indiafan]

What about Tendulkar (In his 21 years of cricket only 1 world cup )?.

Lol, world cup kya Paed par ugte hai? Countries like England and South Africa dont have a single world cup in the history of ODI cricket, forget 21 years

And no I dont count T20 as a world cup

[Garuda]

Misbah has always been a consistent performer at domestic level and yes he was always unlucky not to be given a consistent chance at younger age

SEason by season stats:


http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/19/19294/f_Batting_by_Season.html


His stats are pretty good from 2003- onwards
He was not consistent till 2003-4 if I see that chart. He was good from 2003-4 onwards and did very well after 2007-8 when he got his chance in the team.

during 2000-2003 Pakistan national team had some settle names to occupy the top 5 batting spots and hence that says why Misbah didn't get his chance that time.

[hur rizvi]

He was not consistent till 2003-4 if I see that chart. He was good from 2003-4 onwards and did very well after 2007-8 when he got his chance in the team.

during 2000-2003 Pakistan national team had some settle names to occupy the top 5 batting spots and hence that says why Misbah didn't get his chance that time.

yes during 2000-2003 we had a settled middle order and even till 2006-2007 our middle order was quite strong ... Misbah was unlucky that he had to compete with likes of yousuf , younis and Inzi .... but I feel misbah was treated unfairly in way that he didnt get his chance even when one of them wasnt playing .. for example in 2006 against India in karachi test Faisal Iqbal got a chance ahead of Misbah ... I would say misbah was more deserving then likes of faisal iqbal and Asim kamal

[Statsman]

But why didn't Misbah get a consistent run earlier? Its not as if Pakistan was always full of star batsmen. There were spaces in between which were filled by many ordinary players

[Garuda]

yes during 2000-2003 we had a settled middle order and even till 2006-2007 our middle order was quite strong ... Misbah was unlucky that he had to compete with likes of yousuf , younis and Inzi .... but I feel misbah was treated unfairly in way that he didnt get his chance even when one of them wasnt playing .. for example in 2006 against India in karachi test Faisal Iqbal got a chance ahead of Misbah ... I would say misbah was more deserving then likes of faisal iqbal and Asim kamal
Yup that you can blame to politics.

But again Misbah wouldn't have made a cut to the national team over YK, moyo, Inzi in the middle order.

So, yes he may be unlucky to play in that era, but that happens in every country. We have a lot of domestic batsman who can easily get into Pakistan test side but can't make a cut into Indian side. Similar to Pakistani domestic bowlers during wasim, waqar, Akhar era.

[Garuda]

But why didn't Misbah get a consistent run earlier? Its not as if Pakistan was always full of star batsmen. There were spaces in between which were filled by many ordinary players
Sometimes to blame selection politics and sometimes to blame Misbah's inconsistent domestic figures.

[hur rizvi]

Yup that you can blame to politics.

But again Misbah wouldn't have made a cut to the national team over YK, moyo, Inzi in the middle order.

So, yes he may be unlucky to play in that era, but that happens in every country. We have a lot of domestic batsman who can easily get into Pakistan test side but can't make a cut into Indian side. Similar to Pakistani domestic bowlers during wasim, waqar, Akhar era.

yes he would'nt have played in presence of Moyo , Inzi and younis but likes of faisal and Asim kamal were able to play 20 tests at least ... I feel Misbah should have been ahead of them

[Garuda]

yes he would'nt have played in presence of Moyo , Inzi and younis but likes of faisal and Asim kamal were able to play 20 tests at least ... I feel Misbah should have been ahead of them
Yup, you can blame the politics for him missing those 20 tests (if he had delivered whenever he had got chance)

[DeadlyVenom]

Great thread Misbah is far better than Tendulkar will ever be. He also has a better average in ODI's than Javed Miandad and Inzi.

What a player.

[TukTuk]

Great thread Misbah is far better than Tendulkar will ever be. He also has a better average in ODI's than Javed Miandad and Inzi.

What a player.

:yk:yk:yk

[masoodabbaspk786]

Lol, world cup kya Paed par ugte hai? Countries like England and South Africa dont have a single world cup in the history of ODI cricket, forget 21 years

And no I dont count T20 as a world cup

If winning a world cup is a standard.. Then Ponting should be much more higher player than Tendulkar.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Yup that you can blame to politics.

But again Misbah wouldn't have made a cut to the national team over YK, moyo, Inzi in the middle order.

So, yes he may be unlucky to play in that era, but that happens in every country. We have a lot of domestic batsman who can easily get into Pakistan test side but can't make a cut into Indian side. Similar to Pakistani domestic bowlers during wasim, waqar, Akhar era.

Why you bear tendulkar from 1989 to 1994 with an average of less than 35. In those days you were not having the so called quality batsman??? If tendular was dropped or criticized from his country fellows then his name will not be anywhere in the history.
I believe in the national team if a person is given a chance to play, he should be given at least 4- 5 years. This is the only way a player gets bigger and bigger. No one born as a legend.
Take an example of Afridi, he was less than an average player but he was given a huge chances to play for the national squad and now he turns to be a match winner.
Really in our country, we dont give the fair chances to our players. PCB is not the only responsible for this act. We all contribute into this by unfair criticizing the board and players.

[masoodabbaspk786]

yes during 2000-2003 we had a settled middle order and even till 2006-2007 our middle order was quite strong ... Misbah was unlucky that he had to compete with likes of yousuf , younis and Inzi .... but I feel misbah was treated unfairly in way that he didnt get his chance even when one of them wasnt playing .. for example in 2006 against India in karachi test Faisal Iqbal got a chance ahead of Misbah ... I would say misbah was more deserving then likes of faisal iqbal and Asim kamal

Agreed...

[Kriketer]

30th March - I hate Misbah, kick out Misbah, usless Misbah, buddha Misbah etc

30th April - I love Misbah, kick out everyone other than Misbah, evergreen Misbah, make Misbah captain etc

Since his comeback this guy has been in one awesome form, probably the most consistent and one of the best players in international cricket for past 1 year. Keep it up Uncle Misbah, but let's not jump the gun by comparing him to Tendulkar's past records.

If you want tot talk about head to head in last 1 year then you might have some argument.

[masoodabbaspk786]

30th March - I hate Misbah, kick out Misbah, usless Misbah, buddha Misbah etc

30th April - I love Misbah, kick out everyone other than Misbah, evergreen Misbah, make Misbah captain etc

Since his comeback this guy has been in one awesome form, probably the most consistent and one of the best players in international cricket for past 1 year. Keep it up Uncle Misbah, but let's not jump the gun by comparing him to Tendulkar's past records.

If you want tot talk about head to head in last 1 year then you might have some argument.

Ok go ahead and check for the last 2 years.


- http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

- http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

[masoodabbaspk786]

30th March - I hate Misbah, kick out Misbah, usless Misbah, buddha Misbah etc

30th April - I love Misbah, kick out everyone other than Misbah, evergreen Misbah, make Misbah captain etc

Since his comeback this guy has been in one awesome form, probably the most consistent and one of the best players in international cricket for past 1 year. Keep it up Uncle Misbah, but let's not jump the gun by comparing him to Tendulkar's past records.

If you want tot talk about head to head in last 1 year then you might have some argument.

For the last 2 years, Misbah average is 59 and tendulkar is 50. ( 30 April 2009 - 30 April 2011)

[Poison]

Opening batsman vs no.5 batsman.

50 hundreds vs 0. Nil. Zilch. Nada.

Good thread bro :yk

[Kriketer]

page not found :misbah

[masoodabbaspk786]

page not found :misbah

Just go to cricinfo and filter for the last 2 years.

[Garuda]

Why you bear tendulkar from 1989 to 1994 with an average of less than 35. In those days you were not having the so called quality batsman??? If tendular was dropped or criticized from his country fellows then his name will not be anywhere in the history.
I believe in the national team if a person is given a chance to play, he should be given at least 4- 5 years. This is the only way a player gets bigger and bigger. No one born as a legend.
Take an example of Afridi, he was less than an average player but he was given a huge chances to play for the national squad and now he turns to be a match winner.
Really in our country, we dont give the fair chances to our players. PCB is not the only responsible for this act. We all contribute into this by unfair criticizing the board and players.

Three things which gave Tendulkar a long run

1. Yes, the batting line up was either old or not good enough. Most of the batsmen were almost in their last leg.

2. He was an attacking batsman which we lacked in our entire line up.

3. He played some brilliant match winning innings.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Opening batsman vs no.5 batsman.

50 hundreds vs 0. Nil. Zilch. Nada.

Good thread bro :yk

Indian were criticizing tendulkar when he made his maiden century in his 79th ODI ???????????????????/

[Poison]

Indian were criticizing tendulkar when he made his maiden century in his 79th ODI ???????????????????/

If Misbah plays the same amount of ODI's as Tendulkar he will be 200 years old.

Misbah has close to 20 years of first class cricket behind him. Tendulkar basically debuted in 1st class cricket and started playing international level soon after. He had no experience. Ridiculous comparison.

But Tendulkar is crap :afridi

[x2zee123]

Listen everyone, there is no DOUBT in any person's mind that Sachin is a class player and that Misbah is far far behind in what Tendulkar has accomplished in his life. We all agree on that, nobody is saying that Misbah is better than Tendulkar. The OP hasnt said that, I'm not saying that and none of the other Misbah's supporters are saying it. Tendulkar is a legend, a man with nearly 50 tons, a winner of a world cup and probably the greatest batsman of the modern era. He has the stats to back it up, he has the series victories to back it up.

BUT what the OP is trying to say is that Misbah's batting statistics so far are reminiscent of Tendulkar's statistics. That doesnt mean Misbah is a better batsman than Tendulkar. We all know statistics never tell the whole story. But it does give us a small idea that in the current Pakistani line-up filled up with loose cannons like Ahmed Shehzad, Hafeez and Akmal, Misbah has been a consistent performer with statistics that stand out above the rest of the crop, who do not have the numbers Misbah does.

Does that make Misbah the new Bradman of cricket? No it doesnt. But what it does do is make Misbah stand out in contrast to the other batsmen in our team. Here are a list of current ODI averages of our batsmen

Umar Akmal: 36.40 from 40 matches
Asad Shafiq: 31.50 from 19 matches
Ahmed Shehzad: 28.87 from 17 matches
Mohd Hafeez: 23.83 from from 95 matches

Now compare that to Misbah's 44.55 and you'll realize why the OP is trying to point out this truly remarkable statistic in Misbah's resume. Misbah may not be the big matchwinner Tendulkar is, but having an average similar to him truly makes Misbah stand out above the rest of the shoddy batsmen in the team.


Mate don't drink and type on pp, sachin and a match winner :))):)))

:facepalm:

[masoodabbaspk786]

[QUOTE=x2zee123;3767628]Mate don't drink and type on pp, sachin and a match winner :))):)))

:facepalm:[/QUOT

Please talk with statistics.

[LegCutter]

Mate don't drink and type on pp, sachin and a match winner :))):)))

:facepalm:

Umm yes, Sachin wins matches. Sure his centuries go in vain sometimes, but Tendulkar is as reliable a batsman as you can hope to get.

[masoodabbaspk786]

Of course not. He's been the best Pakistani batsman and among the best in the world in recent time...

Agreed--

[SG]

Does this mean that all is forgiven? I mean have Pak fans finally forgiven Misbah, the main villain of 30-Mar?

[insaaniyat]

Does this mean that all is forgiven? I mean have Pak fans finally forgiven Misbah, the main villain of 30-Mar?

He wasn't the main villain. That was our cuptaan invloved in that loss.

[cricketindiafan]

Some amazing enlightenment. I am really impressed.

Well done OP :)

[SG]

He wasn't the main villain. That was our cuptaan invloved in that loss.
Main villains were ICC/BCCI/PCB/Gilani/Manmohan who already fixed the game before a ball was being bowled.

[Indiafan]

Mate don't drink and type on pp, sachin and a match winner :))):)))

:facepalm:

He is one of the biggest ODI matchwinners, biggest performer in tournament finals

[masoodabbaspk786]

Some amazing enlightenment. I am really impressed.

Well done OP :)

Thanks Very much

[masoodabbaspk786]

Does this mean that all is forgiven? I mean have Pak fans finally forgiven Misbah, the main villain of 30-Mar?

There can be a lot of answers for this---

1) Hafeez got out in a bad fashion--------------- Misbah Responsible
2) Ahmed shahzad got out------------------------- Misbah Responsible
3) Asad Shafiq got out--------------------------------Misbah responsible
4) Yunus Khan got out ------------------------------- Msibah responsible

5) Afridi message to Uamr Akmal not to play the strokes, Misbah respble.
6) Umer gul very fine performance------------------ Misbah responsible
7) Afridi and razzaq Got out in very bad fasion---Misbah responsible
8) Late power play------------------------------------- Misbah responsible

Really you people are biased against misbah. I know Why?? because You people like Shahid afridi as a captain and misbah is a biggest threat to him because he is a genuine captain. During his captain ship Misbah has not lost even a single game.

[Indiafan]

BTW, one also has to remember that dueing Sachin's time the test and ODI team were the same. So Sachin kept his place in the ODI team by his test performances. It is more difficult for mordern cricketers like Misbah

[masoodabbaspk786]

BTW, one also has to remember that dueing Sachin's time the test and ODI team were the same. So Sachin kept his place in the ODI team by his test performances. It is more difficult for mordern cricketers like Misbah

Misbah performance is very good in both formats of the game... This is his + point.

[boomboomcheema]

Always knew that Sachin is mediocre and even Misbah is better than him

[freelance_cricketer]

OK Misbah is better, anything to make you happy :yk

[sohailmm]

what a nonsense thread , POT seems to have some mental disorder even a school boy will tell u whats obvious.

[bforme]

Misbah is amazing player in the Pakistani side like Sachin in the Indian.

[Bullet Drive]

Misbah is un-lucky to have come into the team so late. I think he could have maintained a 50 average in both formats for over a period of time.

He also bats quite late in the order e.g. 5/6 which makes it hard for him to make a century.. Same with Umar Akmal.