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zaid65
21st June 2011, 02:28
Afridi is angry towards with his agent Aces ( Umran Khan), stating that his job is only to make cricket deals for me (not to comment about my legal matters). I am independent of making my own decisions. I am not happy with Umran's behavior. He is also not happy for Umran Khan giving interview to a British web site.

Afridi was replying to Umran's statement in which agent criticized Afridi for going in court for his legal matters. Umran said, I don't know who advised Afridi to go in court.


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Amir
21st June 2011, 02:32
Not sure why Afridi could not just tell Umran this (though it is bitter sweet for one of my more favourite posters, Waq :D). Did he have to go through the papers?

At least PP could have asked Afridi themselves and got the exclusive, who knows what else he would blab :P

Adnan-KSA
21st June 2011, 02:33
Afridi is angry towards with his agent Aces ( Umran Khan), stating that his job is only to make cricket deals for me (not to comment about my legal matters). I am independent of making my own decisions. I am not happy with Umran's behavior. He is also not happy for Umran Khan giving interview to a British web site.

Afridi was replying to Umran's statement in which agent criticized Afridi for going in court for his legal matters. Umran said, I don't know who advised Afridi to go in court.


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is that PP ?

emclub
21st June 2011, 02:36
LOL the British website is this very one

Afridirocks
21st June 2011, 02:41
afridi has a good point, agent job is to find jobs for him not to comment on legal matters, but umraah khan looks like a good guy and i am sure they will fix this issue, if there is any

Gollum
21st June 2011, 02:41
Looking forward to official PP reaction to this!

Obeid
21st June 2011, 02:42
How come this is always referred to as a British website :))

ads101
21st June 2011, 02:43
:)))

The British website he's referring to is Pakpassion isn't it :D

kingusama92
21st June 2011, 02:44
I disagree with Afridi.

His agent has every right to make comments. The NOC clause was directly related with what his agent does, finding Afridi new places to play. He told Afridi that it was pointless to do what he was doing and he was right. Afridi wasted a lot of time with the court case angle and could have sorted things out quickly.

I don't understand what Afridi is ranting about.

Also, Afridi shows his own idiocy once again. Why would you go and say something against your agent to the media? Fine, he's unhappy with Umran's comments, but is this rant to the media, appropriate?

I am starting to doubt whether Afridi knows how to handle issues on his own and not use the media/politicians.

Gollum
21st June 2011, 02:44
I tend to agree with what Afridi is saying here, but he could have just called Umran personally and settled this quietly. Now after blurting this out in the media he has made it an international incident where it won't be so easy for both Umran and Afridi to back down.

Sanchez
21st June 2011, 02:45
:))) LOL This is hilarious and what makes it even more hilarious is that zaid65 is posting this thread. Should be a happy day for him :))

Gollum
21st June 2011, 02:46
We have makings of an epic thread once Afridiites show up here :)))

violet_may
21st June 2011, 02:49
Bartaanvi website? That newspaper meant pakpassion right? :afridi

:)) Afridi. Stop giving so many media statements man. Take a break.

ads101
21st June 2011, 02:55
ads101 is angry with Afridi over comments in the media against a respected poster on a "British website". :D

Obeid
21st June 2011, 02:58
I think Afridi calling PP a British website basically signifys that he doesn't consider the people here as Pakistani

ads101
21st June 2011, 03:01
I think Afridi calling PP a British website basically signifys that he doesn't consider the people here as Pakistani
It's based in Britain this website if I'm right, if he said it was Pakistani, that would be incorrect technically.

I think he didn't mention the name as he doesn't really want to blame the site for anything at all, or lead people to believe that he is angry with the site. They certainly haven't done anything wrong.

kingusama92
21st June 2011, 03:07
It's based in Britain this website if I'm right, if he said it was Pakistani, that would be incorrect technically.

I think he didn't mention the name as he doesn't really want to blame the site for anything at all, or lead people to believe that he is angry with the site. They certainly haven't done anything wrong.

Plus, what could he blame us for?

We asked a question and got an answer. It wasn't forced out of Umran.

Honestly, this matter should be solved behind closed doors. Umran has been Afridi's agent for a while now, they must have enough understanding not to argue through the media!

Fawad2010
21st June 2011, 03:09
I disagree with Afridi.

His agent has every right to make comments. The NOC clause was directly related with what his agent does, finding Afridi new places to play. He told Afridi that it was pointless to do what he was doing and he was right. Afridi wasted a lot of time with the court case angle and could have sorted things out quickly.

I don't understand what Afridi is ranting about.

Also, Afridi shows his own idiocy once again. Why would you go and say something against your agent to the media? Fine, he's unhappy with Umran's comments, but is this rant to the media, appropriate?

I am starting to doubt whether Afridi knows how to handle issues on his own and not use the media/politicians.

+1

Being someone's agent doesn't mean you can't have your own opinions!

The issue should have been handled with a phone call between Umran and Afridi not Afridi and some random newspaper!

ahsan88
21st June 2011, 03:15
'Mera nahi khayal k Umran nay iss qisam ka bayaan dia hoga'.

Random Aussie
21st June 2011, 03:24
Lol this guy can't even have a discussion with his agent without blabbing to the press.

Paradox
21st June 2011, 03:27
I'm a massive Afridi fan and I'd love to defend him at all costs as long as his argument is reasonable and valid but Afridi is wrong here.

I think Shahid needs to realize that just because Umran is his personal agent, doesn't mean that Umran is an agent and an agent only - he is also a human being and has his own personal opinions regarding every single issue, of course there will be some things that he won't 100% agree on with Afridi.

Not good.

Watsupdoc
21st June 2011, 03:30
Isko Media sey kuch zaida hi pyar hai... :afridi

miandadrules
21st June 2011, 03:34
I'm a massive Afridi fan and I'd love to defend him at all costs as long as his argument is reasonable and valid but Afridi is wrong here.

I think Shahid needs to realize that just because Umran is his personal agent, doesn't mean that Umran is an agent and an agent only - he is also a human being and has his own personal opinions regarding every single issue, of course there will be some things that he won't 100% agree on with Afridi.

Not good.

Very reasonable post.

I can see Afridi's point but I think he may have misinterpreted what Umran said. Umran merely said, he wasn't keen on going down the legal route because he didn't think much would come of it. He never said that Afridi was wrong for doing so.

Afridi really needs to stop giving these statements, it's showing him in a very poor light.

Also, is Afridi going to give a statement very time he decides to change his shirt? I was going to say change his hair style, but that would be news worthy for many on here.

akamaka
21st June 2011, 03:36
Umran bhai, if you are reading this, I dont think you did anything wrong, i thought your interview was very sensible and also lets us see the other side of the sport, from the agents point of view. Hope this doesn't deter you from participating in PP discussions and giving interviews to PP in the future.

godzilla
21st June 2011, 03:37
good riddance from team pakistan. talk about melodrama and hissy fit.

Waq
21st June 2011, 03:47
Afridi has every right to be angry with Aces comments but I personally would not have dealt with this publicly. It shows further evidence of poor decision making.

Aces are Afridi's agent and it is poor that they speak negatively of Afridi and his advisors. They obviously generate money from him and it is best to back him fully or remain silent.

Aces point may well be valid but they are paid to make Afridi look good, not portray him in a negative light.

PB
21st June 2011, 03:49
Lol guys a clown...Oh wait, he'll probably go in another newspaper and complain about getting called a clown.

miandadrules
21st June 2011, 03:52
Afridi has every right to be angry with Aces comments but I personally would not have dealt with this publicly. It shows further evidence of poor decision making.

Aces are Afridi's agent and it is poor that they speak negatively of Afridi and his advisors. They obviously generate money from him and it is best to back him fully or remain silent.

Aces point may well be valid but they are paid to make Afridi look good, not portray him in a negative light.

Lost cause

*sallu*
21st June 2011, 04:15
This guy loves complaining to the media

Must be "that" time of the month again for Afridi

PerfectionPersonified
21st June 2011, 04:22
Mods can this be a Poll
??

Afridi Loves making Media statements= Yes or No

kingusama92
21st June 2011, 04:25
I think it's crucial for Umran to now nip this in the bud.

If he makes another statement in retort, this will spiral out of control.

Afridi will have Zardari on Umran's tail .:P

chill79
21st June 2011, 05:07
I agree with PPers who mentioned, Afridi should have handled it personally rather than giving statement to media. But I think problem here is some of the journalist are his very close friends, specially Yahya. Even if Afridi generalizes his converstaion his media firends would publish it with some mirch masala.

kingusama92
21st June 2011, 05:29
I agree with PPers who mentioned, Afridi should have handled it personally rather than giving statement to media. But I think problem here is some of the journalist are his very close friends, specially Yahya. Even if Afridi generalizes his converstaion his media firends would publish it with some mirch masala.

Then Afridi should be taking his friends to task.

Are they really his friends, if they do this to him?

Random Aussie
21st June 2011, 05:32
Lol guys a clown...Oh wait, he'll probably go in another newspaper and complain about getting called a clown.

:))) Maybe he will threaten to retire from T20 unless you stop posting.

NJamal
21st June 2011, 05:54
:))) Maybe he will threaten to retire from T20 unless you stop posting.

For your Kind information he is RETIRED from all international formats. Who told you that he will play T20? Source

NJamal
21st June 2011, 05:56
Afridi did the right thing. Manager should act as a Manager not as a legal advisor. Umran should just stick with looking after the cricketing matters of Afridi.

saeed-sohail
21st June 2011, 06:04
Afridi has become a joke.

Savak
21st June 2011, 06:04
Afridi did the right thing. Manager should act as a Manager not as a legal advisor. Umran should just stick with looking after the cricketing matters of Afridi.

Both are in the wrong. Firstly IMO Aces should not have gone public or told PP about his disagreement with Afridi. Second, Afridi is wrong here, ACES is not nepotistic, dictatorial like the PCB, Afridi if he had any displeasure could have spoken to ACES in private about it via the media.

Media statements against the PCB and to an extent team management officials is justified but not against your agent.

kingusama92
21st June 2011, 06:21
I dont think so there will be even a single thread on PP about afridi wherehis haters havent reported.

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Every dog has its day.

Is there ever a single Afridi thread on PP without Afridi LOVERS showing up?

Exact same theory in reversal.

NJamal
21st June 2011, 06:22
^ No matter you hate him or love him but you can't ignore him.

Pakhtoon_Rules
21st June 2011, 06:25
^ No matter you hate him or love him but you can't ignore him.

+1, but i think afridi is more in minds of haters than lovers. What Charisma!

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Pakhtoon_Rules
21st June 2011, 06:27
Is there ever a single Afridi thread on PP without Afridi LOVERS showing up?

Exact same theory in reversal.

Yeah true but the amount of posts by haters really surprised me. He is simply dominating their minds. Afridi power

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kingusama92
21st June 2011, 06:44
Yeah true but the amount of posts by haters really surprised me. He is simply dominating their minds. Afridi power

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But, what is a true 'Afridi hater'?

Is anyone who opposes something Afridi does, a hater? Surely, something like this cannot be so black and white (lover or hater)?

There are only a few true die hard Afridi haters on PP, according to me. :)

The rest are just posters being lumped into that group, unfairly.

PerfectionPersonified
21st June 2011, 06:46
:afridiLove is Blind---Afridi fans Proved that today

Pakhtoon_Rules
21st June 2011, 06:53
:afridiLove is Blind---Afridi fans Proved that today

Hate is even more blind proved by haters long time ago. Domination of Afridi.

Pakhtoon_Rules
21st June 2011, 06:56
But, what is a true 'Afridi hater'?

Is anyone who opposes something Afridi does, a hater? Surely, something like this cannot be so black and white (lover or hater)?

There are only a few true die hard Afridi haters on PP, according to me. :)

The rest are just posters being lumped into that group, unfairly.

Yes,opposing something is not hate but iam sure you are clever enough to see some posters oppose everything and are the first to jump on any such thread.
But then again its sheer domination of afridi,he is on their minds 24/7.

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Pakhtoon_Rules
21st June 2011, 06:58
King usama

And you are def not a hater.

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PerfectionPersonified
21st June 2011, 06:59
Hate is even more blind proved by haters long time ago. Domination of Afridi.

Both Analogies Wrong

Neither Afridi EVER dominated world and Hate is a harsh word but many people dislike Afridi for his Childish Acts

Dr. Schaden Freud
21st June 2011, 07:20
I disagree with Afridi.

His agent has every right to make comments. The NOC clause was directly related with what his agent does, finding Afridi new places to play. He told Afridi that it was pointless to do what he was doing and he was right. Afridi wasted a lot of time with the court case angle and could have sorted things out quickly.

I don't understand what Afridi is ranting about.

Also, Afridi shows his own idiocy once again. Why would you go and say something against your agent to the media? Fine, he's unhappy with Umran's comments, but is this rant to the media, appropriate?

I am starting to doubt whether Afridi knows how to handle issues on his own and not use the media/politicians.

I guess, Afridi is ranting about Aces expressing his views in public and would have preferred any advice or comment to have been made directly to him, in private.

But, that is exactly what he is doing himself. :)) :))

AZ
21st June 2011, 08:49
I think Afridi calling PP a British website basically signifys that he doesn't consider the people here as Pakistani

lol nai its Pak media cheap tactic, they always do that...use our scoop but don't give credit.

Chocolaty Laila
21st June 2011, 08:58
I agree with PPers who mentioned, Afridi should have handled it personally rather than giving statement to media. But I think problem here is some of the journalist are his very close friends, specially Yahya. Even if Afridi generalizes his converstaion his media firends would publish it with some mirch masala.

this is a very likely scenario! these journalist friends are just as good as enemies :D

I was also surprised about the comments made by Umran Kham, they were surprisingly honest and up-front! He could have just made a long tribute to Afridi but credit where it is due he definitely did not do that!

zaid65
21st June 2011, 13:12
I'm a massive Afridi fan and I'd love to defend him at all costs as long as his argument is reasonable and valid but Afridi is wrong here.

I think Shahid needs to realize that just because Umran is his personal agent, doesn't mean that Umran is an agent and an agent only - he is also a human being and has his own personal opinions regarding every single issue, of course there will be some things that he won't 100% agree on with Afridi.

Not good.

What you are asking or expecting from Afridi is too much for his intelligence and IQ.

Afridi's IQ has three components, me, me and me.

KingKhanWC
21st June 2011, 13:20
Afridi should sack him if he feels this way. No agent should say anything which his employer wouldn't like.

Kray_jackson7
21st June 2011, 13:33
Both Afridi and Umran are in the wrong for their actions. But people thinking Afridi went 'running to the media' are probably far off. I think maybe someone in media asked him the question about his opinion and Afridi responded to it.

W63L35
21st June 2011, 14:02
Afridi is unhappy with his Agent's comments

So this is how an employer gets unhappy about an employee saying things that don't fit well with the employer? :P

Anybody thinks ACEs should resign or file a case in Sindh High Court? :P

Joking aside.... but I would love to hear Umran Khan (ACE's) side of the story and have him verify what exactly happened between him and Afridi in the light of the article in OP.

Saj, Mig... any chances of getting ACEs to clarify? If I have to guess, he is not going to speak to PP anymore ...since "the boss" said so! :)

AZ
21st June 2011, 14:04
Umran bhai is most welcome to comment, but yes perhaps situation is not quite right at the moment :)

pun500
21st June 2011, 14:32
Afridi is angry towards with his agent Aces ( Umran Khan), stating that his job is only to make cricket deals for me (not to comment about my legal matters). I am independent of making my own decisions. I am not happy with Umran's behavior. He is also not happy for Umran Khan giving interview to a British web site.

Afridi was replying to Umran's statement in which agent criticized Afridi for going in court for his legal matters. Umran said, I don't know who advised Afridi to go in court.


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Well done you have nailed them all :)) :)) :))

pun500
21st June 2011, 14:35
lol nai its Pak media cheap tactic, they always do that...use our scoop but don't give credit.
whats wrong in saying this is a british website . Thats a fact isnt it.

The site is hosted there. The applicable law in case of any issues is British and as far as I know the owner is also british. (british with pakistani descent but british).

Thats fair enough

MIG
21st June 2011, 14:36
It all depends on what they asked Afridi.

Unfortunately, there is an element of jealousy amongst the media - if one guys gets a scoop, the other guy does his best to water it down.

AZ
21st June 2011, 14:40
whats wrong in saying this is a british website . Thats a fact isnt it.

The site is hosted there. The applicable law in case of any issues is British and as far as I know the owner is also british. (british with pakistani descent but british).

Thats fair enough

I mean in the sense that they will use our articles but not name the source.

pun500
21st June 2011, 15:14
I mean in the sense that they will use our articles but not name the source.
dont know about pak media but cricinfo and sky etc do state the site name

AZ
21st June 2011, 15:19
dont know about pak media but cricinfo and sky etc do state the site name

yes thats why I specifically said Pak media.

Afrid1
21st June 2011, 16:05
Afridi can say whatever he wants... he is THE BOSS do not mess with him.

sunnykhan
21st June 2011, 16:07
Afridi is right here. Umran should not have commented on the issue. But Afridi should also deal with him in private. Both parties are guilty.

roy420
21st June 2011, 16:18
I disagree with Afridi.

His agent has every right to make comments. The NOC clause was directly related with what his agent does, finding Afridi new places to play. He told Afridi that it was pointless to do what he was doing and he was right. Afridi wasted a lot of time with the court case angle and could have sorted things out quickly.

I don't understand what Afridi is ranting about.

Also, Afridi shows his own idiocy once again. Why would you go and say something against your agent to the media? Fine, he's unhappy with Umran's comments, but is this rant to the media, appropriate?

I am starting to doubt whether Afridi knows how to handle issues on his own and not use the media/politicians.


I couldn't have said it better...

12cavalry
21st June 2011, 16:25
So this is how an employer gets unhappy about an employee saying things that don't fit well with the employer? :P



The question is, would Umran now apologize for what he has said :murali

Indiafan
21st June 2011, 16:30
Afridi should sack him if he feels this way. No agent should say anything which his employer wouldn't like.

Ah the irony. The very people who were defending Afridi's right to speak against his employer(the PCB) in public are now saying this

DHONI183
21st June 2011, 17:36
Where is that interview of his agent? Can someone direct me to it?

DHONI183
21st June 2011, 17:37
Lol this guy can't even have a discussion with his agent without blabbing to the press.

This is the problem with him. He likes to be interviewed all the time:boom:.

DHONI183
21st June 2011, 17:41
Where is that interview of his agent? Can someone direct me to it?

Just found it as it is a sticky thread:19:.

saeed-sohail
21st June 2011, 17:53
Someone should teach Lala two words "no comment".

Master Blaster
21st June 2011, 17:53
Hypocrite. Himself does not follow his employer's RnR but in case of his employee, he wants him to be perfect. :facepalm:

The guy just seems to have followed his boss's footsteps...show him the mirror... :akhtar

miandadrules
21st June 2011, 17:55
Hypocrite. Himself does not follow his employer's RnR but in case of his employee, he wants him to be perfect. :facepalm:

The guy just seems to have followed his boss's footsteps...show him the mirror... :akhtar

No need, he carries one around with him.

JellyBro
21st June 2011, 17:59
Afridi bhai showing double standards here. On one hand he belittles his employers and speaks out against them plus openly refuses to apologize. Conversely, Aces are employed by Afridi but they dare not speak against Mr. Big Boss or else the local news station down in Mozambique will know about it :afridi

KingKhanWC
21st June 2011, 18:39
Ah the irony. The very people who were defending Afridi's right to speak against his employer(the PCB) in public are now saying this

I'ts like talking to kids on here sometimes. Afridi got fined for what he did. It's not about rights or wrongs, anyone has the right to say what they want including the agent but they have to take responsibility too. PCB as employers did what they could be fining him and likewise Afridi can take any action against his agent if he so wishes. People were not defending Afridi's right to speak against his employer but his right to speak the truth(what he thought it was) about the incompetence of his management or whatever his issue was.

PennOne
21st June 2011, 18:53
Afridi unhappy with someone, news at 11!

miandadrules
21st June 2011, 19:10
I'ts like talking to kids on here sometimes. Afridi got fined for what he did. It's not about rights or wrongs, anyone has the right to say what they want including the agent but they have to take responsibility too. PCB as employers did what they could be fining him and likewise Afridi can take any action against his agent if he so wishes. People were not defending Afridi's right to speak against his employer but his right to speak the truth(what he thought it was) about the incompetence of his management or whatever his issue was.

Didn't the agent do that too? All he said was that he was not in favour of going down the legal route.

The point being, why make a statement in the press about your agent?

emclub
21st June 2011, 22:11
I asked Afridi's agent he says this news is rubbish

Masala news I guess http://twitter.com/#!/Aces_sports/status/83295095247478785

D
21st June 2011, 22:17
http://twitter.com/#!/Aces_sports/status/83296201537105920

Nothing to clear.

Safe to say this is masala news. Wish these new agencies did something more than just print crap.

KingKhanWC
21st June 2011, 22:35
Didn't the agent do that too? All he said was that he was not in favour of going down the legal route.

The point being, why make a statement in the press about your agent?

I agree. There is no need for Afridi to make any statement to the press. He's the employer and can take action against his agent if he wants. The news never made logical sense from the outset.

moiz
22nd June 2011, 01:00
Ha ha ha according to Afridi's manager Umran Khan, this is all rubbish and people had a discussion on it here :)))

zaid65
22nd June 2011, 01:51
Ha ha ha according to Afridi's manager Umran Khan, this is all rubbish and people had a discussion on it here :)))

Afridi openly showed his anger and insulted his agent and you would expect his agent to make a support group on twitter account for his humiliation?

I feel bad for agent for putting up the crap from Mr. NOC.

LegendsXI
22nd June 2011, 07:10
Someone should teach Lala two words "no comment".

Two whole words, thats wishful thinking mate.

Chocolaty Laila
22nd June 2011, 07:13
Ha ha ha according to Afridi's manager Umran Khan, this is all rubbish and people had a discussion on it here :)))

were you expecting him to say anything other than that at this juncture? I doubt it!

in any case, kudos to his agent for not holding back and saying what he did! I am sure his client may not have approved but it definitely takes some guts to say so in public!

Waq
22nd June 2011, 07:15
If twitter is correct than has Aces got a defamation special in the pipeline?

You cannot let journalists get away with lying!

Thees_Mar_Khan
22nd June 2011, 14:03
Ha ha ha according to Afridi's manager Umran Khan, this is all rubbish and people had a discussion on it here :)))

Its quite amazing to see a poster denouncing one journalist on ethics blah blah and then posting a masalaa news to satisfy his personal grudge/agenda........

Dodger
23rd June 2011, 12:37
Ha ha ha according to Afridi's manager Umran Khan, this is all rubbish and people had a discussion on it here :)))

So the agent is saying that one of Afridi's most trusted media people Jang made the article up?

Can the people who run this site, get Aces to clear this up.

Are Aces or Afridi going to sue Jang for allegedly making the article up, or are Aces making this up?

MIG
24th June 2011, 12:25
The people who run this site say this:

We published the interview based upon "word for word" as said to us by Aces.

Aces can confirm this as well when they come on line.

AS a general rule ALL PP material is backed up either writing or recorded audio - We will NVER allow our repuatation to be tarnished by "making up" stories.

Dodger
26th June 2011, 19:45
The people who run this site say this:

We published the interview based upon "word for word" as said to us by Aces.

Aces can confirm this as well when they come on line.

AS a general rule ALL PP material is backed up either writing or recorded audio - We will NVER allow our repuatation to be tarnished by "making up" stories.

ALright so people who run this site say that, but what about The Aces who were quick to make legal threats against posters on this site who were entitled to their opinions, why dont The Aces threaten legal action against Jang who publish the article?

The Aces seem to have gone very quiet last few days after this news, why not make comment here about this story by Jang, as they are calling Jang liars?

nas66
26th June 2011, 20:23
Afridi is the most silly and stupid cricketer in the history of pakistan cricket hope he never play again for pakistan team.INSHALLAH