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saadibaba
17th July 2011, 05:53
It's a mesmerizing and fascinating documentary about the life of the late Benazir Bhutto. It was released in 2010 in theater's and got out on DVD recently.
I found it to be very well made and surpisingly gripping, even though like every Pakistani I knew the story well. The movie starts of in 2007 when Benazir has decided to come back to Pakistan and the dangers associated with that decision are being discussed, than the scene of her triumphant arrival in Karachi and the blast.
The movie than quickly goes into a quick recap of the history of Pakistan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's emergence as one of the most charismatic and inspiring leader of Pakistan, his death and the struggle faced by Benazir at that time and onwards.
It's obviously a bit too pro Benazir but not to the point where it turns into an officially govt. sponsored movie. It's actually quite eye opening for someone like me who always thought of Benazir as nothing more than the daughter of Bhutto who simply inherited his name and party. She went through a lot more than people give her credit for. She was kept in jail/solitary confinement and house arrest during Zia's rule. She was able to mobilize people behind her despite the establishment's designs to keep her out. She obviously had her flaws, choosing the wrong person to marry being one of them.
She was a brave soul, something which cannot be said about most politicians of Pakistan and I wonder how things would have been if she were alive and in power. One thing is for sure, we can certainly be
proud to have her as one of our leaders.
Link to the trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W13lLUmYzWQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
PakPrince
17th July 2011, 09:17
shows Pakistan in a very poor light......
ahsan88
17th July 2011, 10:16
The whole documentary is available on YouTube now.
Part 1
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SIMBA
17th July 2011, 10:49
Why would I even bother with this?
Benazir was a failed politician - she had her time, poser but wasn't able to do anything.
She was no hero as some portray her to be!
Cricketismylife
17th July 2011, 11:37
better than most of what is around today!
She should hav married Imran....great combo that would have been.
Werent they studying at Oxford together? Any stories linking them two?
Markhor
17th July 2011, 11:42
Apparently Zardari watched the premiere and was in tears at the end.
Ambi
17th July 2011, 13:05
Bhutto:The beauty
Vegitto1
17th July 2011, 14:56
Lol! She was a corrupt woman and in the end she got what she deserved and Inshallah the sane fate awaits the Sharif brothers, the Chaudhry brothers, Musharraf and Altaf Hussain
ahsan88
17th July 2011, 15:46
^^ Really, you want all of them to die as brutally as BB did?
Odd, how you missed out on Zardari.
saadibaba
17th July 2011, 16:45
Lol! She was a corrupt woman and in the end she got what she deserved and Inshallah the sane fate awaits the Sharif brothers, the Chaudhry brothers, Musharraf and Altaf Hussain
So all corrupt people deserve to be violently murdered ?
It's easy to simply label someone as corrupt and move on. As I said before, this woman had her faults, but we should also consider the sacrifices she made to bring democracy to Pakistan and her struggle's against the dictatorship of Zia. How many women, not just in Pakistan but in the whole world, can be credited for such achievements.
We want our politicians to be saints. The reality is every successful modern day politician, be it in US or Britian or India or elsewhere, have their imperfections and flaws. But I assure you, Americans or Indians, no matter how much they hated that politician when he or she was in power, after their death, they would all think of them with respect and focus on their positive side. We on the other hand don't think twice ripping apart our own leaders, dead or alive. It's perfectly fine to point out there mistakes but to take away all that they have achieved and totally discredit them is doing injustice to their legacy and name.
Benazir Bhutto, like it or not is revered by millions of people in Pakistan. She is a legend to them and will always be. Call those people dumb or stupid or whatever but they are Pakistanis just like you and me and even if we don't respect her we should at least respect our peoples sympathies for this woman, especially after she is no longer with us in this world.
How exactly Pakistan benefited from BB's death? If anything the timing and the manner of her death made things worse for the country. I simply don't see any logic behind celebrating her death given the consequences we're facing right now.
Thats the difference between civilized and uncivilized nations, in civilized countries you would expect people to see criminals be to be held accountable and punished in courtrooms, whereas in uncivilized countries, everyone craves for daylight bloodshed and anarchy.
observer1
17th July 2011, 19:53
Typical, only Pakistani's will celebrate the lesser corrupt "leader".
Well, i for one won't respect anyone with more corruption charges in her family than the damn Mafia!
:14:
Saad Hasan
17th July 2011, 21:17
Those who celebrate the legacy of Bhuttos tend to be of secular persuasion with a peculiar dislike of Islam...they go out of their way to whitewash and/or selectively ignore his numerous and profound short-comings and outright destructive legacy...Their hatred of Islam and Zia who they misguidedly hold directly responsible for the proliferation of Islamic ideals in Pakistani society, only due to Zia own personal humility and religious outlook...the irony of it all is that the senior bhutto was the biggest catalyst, the raison d'etre of Pakistan's Islamic character and it's pan-islamic/jihadist foreign policy streak...he enshrined the role of religion and supremacy of Quran and Allah in Pakistan's supreme law, he declared Qadianis non muslim, he attempted to make a pan-islamic bloc, he cultivated and patronized Islamic fundamentalists and jihadists, such as Gulbadin Hitamkyar and supported them in the opposition of secular/socialist govern't of Afghanistan...
Bhutto was the biggest fundamentalist islamist who walked the earth in the last century, and more importantly he was as brtual a dictator as they come, albeit, civilian...yet, the secular degenerates derided and curse Zia for these same qualities...though Zia even being a military dictator, didn't have nearly as much brutality in his character nor actions as Bhutto...
saadibaba
17th July 2011, 23:11
Those who celebrate the legacy of Bhuttos tend to be of secular persuasion with a peculiar dislike of Islam...they go out of their way to whitewash and/or selectively ignore his numerous and profound short-comings and outright destructive legacy...Their hatred of Islam and Zia who they misguidedly hold directly responsible for the proliferation of Islamic ideals in Pakistani society, only due to Zia own personal humility and religious outlook...the irony of it all is that the senior bhutto was the biggest catalyst, the raison d'etre of Pakistan's Islamic character and it's pan-islamic/jihadist foreign policy streak...he enshrined the role of religion and supremacy of Quran and Allah in Pakistan's supreme law, he declared Qadianis non muslim, he attempted to make a pan-islamic bloc, he cultivated and patronized Islamic fundamentalists and jihadists, such as Gulbadin Hitamkyar and supported them in the opposition of secular/socialist govern't of Afghanistan...
Bhutto was the biggest fundamentalist islamist who walked the earth in the last century, and more importantly he was as brtual a dictator as they come, albeit, civilian...yet, the secular degenerates derided and curse Zia for these same qualities...though Zia even being a military dictator, didn't have nearly as much brutality in his character nor actions as Bhutto...
Nobody here is celebrating the legacy of Bhutto or holding him in high esteem. This thread is about Benazir Bhutto's movie. Even if they did, how did you come to this conclusion that those people have a peculiar dislike for Islam. Maybe they are not in love with the type of Islam which is fundamental, extremist and conservative in nature which you seem to love so much.
Bhutto is responsible for all the unjust things that you mentioned above and he did them to stay in power but Zia not only continued those destrutive patterns but went a step ahead. The building of radical madrassas all across Pakistan and the lack of democracy and dictatorship made our country fall backwards in every field, under Zia's rule. Its actions like these that proliferated extremism in Pakistani society and is largely the reason why we are in a mess right now.
I feel you have a deep hatred of "seculars" as if they are some godless evil creatures. They are muslims too and just because they don't believe in the brand of Islam you prescribe to, does not make them any less of a muslim or human beings.
Saqs
18th July 2011, 03:20
One thing is for sure, we can certainly be proud to have her as one of our leaders.
Speak for yourself.
Being proud of a corrupt thief who robbed, pillaged and raped our country whilst in power?
Why oh why do so many Pakistanis have such a short-term political memory!
Cricketismylife
18th July 2011, 05:51
Lol! She was a corrupt woman and in the end she got what she deserved and Inshallah the sane fate awaits the Sharif brothers, the Chaudhry brothers, Musharraf and Altaf Hussain
brutal death as punishment for a corrupt leader (in Pak where corruption is a way of life)?
cant wait wat u think is an apt punishment for someone like Hitler?
Vegitto1
18th July 2011, 09:12
brutal death as punishment for a corrupt leader (in Pak where corruption is a way of life)?
cant wait wat u think is an apt punishment for someone like Hitler?
1. He is not a Pakistani leader so not really my concern.
2. As a Leader for the Germans, he was not all that bad.
2. The man committed suicide to avoid his fate in this World for starting WW 2 and the alleged Holocaust.
3. Have no doubt that what awaits him is going to be a million times worse than what anyone could have done to him in this World.
4. However if he was alive, he should have been given a death sentence and it should have been carried out in one of his own Alleged gas Chambers.
SIMBA
18th July 2011, 09:19
brutal death as punishment for a corrupt leader (in Pak where corruption is a way of life)?
cant wait wat u think is an apt punishment for someone like Hitler?
Yes, I wish all corrupt leaders die in the same way!
Corruption is a form of cheating your nation - IMO equivalent to treason. Punishment for treason is brutal.
Vegitto1
18th July 2011, 09:26
So all corrupt people deserve to be violently murdered ?
It's easy to simply label someone as corrupt and move on. As I said before, this woman had her faults, but we should also consider the sacrifices she made to bring democracy to Pakistan and her struggle's against the dictatorship of Zia. How many women, not just in Pakistan but in the whole world, can be credited for such achievements.
We want our politicians to be saints. The reality is every successful modern day politician, be it in US or Britian or India or elsewhere, have their imperfections and flaws. But I assure you, Americans or Indians, no matter how much they hated that politician when he or she was in power, after their death, they would all think of them with respect and focus on their positive side. We on the other hand don't think twice ripping apart our own leaders, dead or alive. It's perfectly fine to point out there mistakes but to take away all that they have achieved and totally discredit them is doing injustice to their legacy and name.
Benazir Bhutto, like it or not is revered by millions of people in Pakistan. She is a legend to them and will always be. Call those people dumb or stupid or whatever but they are Pakistanis just like you and me and even if we don't respect her we should at least respect our peoples sympathies for this woman, especially after she is no longer with us in this world.
1. These so called leaders are responsible for the deaths of many due to their corrupt ways. You think murder is committed only by shooting someone? Do these leaders that you defend not know that their million dollar scandals result in the poor being deprived of the basic necessity which in most cases ultimately lead to death?
2. She did not make any sacrifices! she made a business investment. Get into power and rob as much as you can. If any of her sacrifices were for the Country then she would not turn out as corrupt as she did because those who make sacrifices for a good cause by default have a concious and moral values. Her husband killed her brother and she said nothing!
3. I do not want our politicians to be saints. You are deluded if you think a saint can survive in politics. All I ask of them is not to be corrupt. And how corruption is dealt with in the UK
Chris Huhne, the Energy Secretary, was forced to issue a fresh denial of wrongdoing last night after senior figures from within his own party raised doubts about his response to claims that he illegally persuaded his wife to take speeding points on his behalf.
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/8519568/Chris-Huhne-under-pressure-from-his-own-party-over-speeding-ticket-allegations.html
4. An MP is having sleepless nights over a speeding ticket in this country! The politicians lie, are secretive but if they break the law or are corrupt then its the end of the line for them. So please never compare Pak politicians to the ones in UK or USA.
5. What has BB done for Pakistan that she should be credited for?
6. those millions of people are misguided. They love her out of sympathy not because she is a hero of some sort.
7. Stop defending corrupt leaders simply because your Ganja brothers from Raiwand are in the same boat.
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