could it be....

could we......have beaten the mighty australians....WITHOUT SHOAIB AKHTAR??? thats like......running with a broken back....rolling without our "lynch pin"!?!?! how can such a miraculous feat have been achieved with a "toothless attack" and an "idiot, chicken captain"? Its a modern marvel. :oD

sorry guys I know its not the nicest thing to say but just had to get some frustration out. you all knew this was coming!!!

sometimes u do better when ur backs are to the wall.

sometimes u do better when ur backs are to the wall.

or maybe Amit...just maybe.....team-work IS important!

[pakistani pride]

Teamwork and self believe !

BTW only a team like pakistan can do this...

yes this is what I was ridiculed for saying!

[Rob H]

When we take out the individuals in the team we gel together much better as a team

yeah but at the end of the day u still need the quality.

[pakistani pride]

We always have quality even more when shoaib ,shabbir , sami and gul will return...

exactly!
not forgetting Danishbhai!
I think Bob really wants him in the team no matter what he might say.

[pakistani pride]

That will make our attack just 2 good .....

[midwicket]

And not to forget the second test against Sri Lanka. The Ferrari wasn't playing, broken down, being serviced ... strange that.

I'd be really interested if someone could do a breakdown of matches where Shoaib's efforts were a significant factor in Pakistan winning.

[Schiller]

ATYS:
how can such a miraculous feat have been achieved with ... an "idiot, chicken captain"?


Very very interesting indeed. Almost amusing I should say.

Either you didnt watch or even follow the game or youd continue to do a disservice to Inzi's case by bringing this in.

[MIG]

I know a man who can defend Shoaib and provide you the stats......

PP Calling Farhad, over ?

Regards

I know a man who can defend Shoaib and provide you the stats......

PP Calling Farhad, over ?

Regards

that guy just repeats the same stats over and over again. if only stats were that important!

seriously though this does prove one thing....we CAN win without shoaib and we CAN bowl well without him. Not that I needed any convincing but there are doubters out there who should think twice now! lynch-pin my @#$!

[Schiller]

AKhtar is more of a test bowler now

[tahaqureshi]

i have had that opinion for a while now schiller..

but i doubt he will come along the same lines of thinking as warne..

When we take out the individuals in the team we gel together much better as a team

well said RH. throw the individual khotas OUT! |-A

[Hash]

the last time Akhtar had a performance that significantly contributed to us winning was the game against the ********* in the ICC CHmpions Trophy at Birmingham. Picked up 4 wickets, two of them fairly crucial (and broke potentially dangerous partnership).

Yes it was significant but not match-winning. Let's not forget that Rana also took 4 wickets in the game and the tremendous knock by Youhana under pressure. As the great injured one said - "Cricket is a team game." Funny how he wasn't saying that when claiming all the credit for Pakistan winning games!

[Jahangir Khan]

We should celebrate beating the Aussies.

They had their best team with all their main players there but we had our second string of bowlers and we still won.

There was no Kotha, Sami, Shabbir or Gul and Khalil and Rao only have a few games between them.

The last few times we've played the Aussies we pushed them close.

If we get to Final then we need to give them good matches. Remember the last 3 finals we've played them in:

World Cup '99
Natwest Series 2001
Videocon Cup 2004

We have to show the World that we can beat the Aussies. If we get to the Finals and get thrashed twice it would have been pointless.

Too often we have lost big games that matter