i have always wondered

[Looney]

Urdu letter " rhay " se koi lafz kyuN nahi shuru hota ? :inti
aarhay saaein and paharh wala rhay
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[Looney]

and if seen , suaad and say have the same sound , why do we not use just one of those letters ?

alif and aa'eeiN ( ainak wala ) said the Urdu way ( not arabic ) then there is not much difference there either .

or qauf and kaaf ( kuttay wala ) , only a small minority gets the sheen-qaaf right now , the majority says both the letters same .

tay and toye and zuwad and zoye have the same sounds too .

[Fireworks11]

Seen and Suaad are pronounced differently in Arabic.

[Looney]

yea , arabic letters are pronounced different too , if you read the arabic qaaida

we do it the persian way . that is the reason why we say Ramzan and they say Ramadan .

[Fireworks11]

OK, I've always used the Arabic pronunciation.

[DHONI183]

yea , arabic letters are pronounced different too , if you read the arabic qaaida

we do it the persian way . that is the reason why we say Ramzan and they say Ramadan .

Yeah, and we pronounce ث like "s" instead of "th" in Arabic, and ذ‎ and ض‎ like "zh" instead of "dh" as in Arabic.

[Looney]

yep