Mohali semi-final: What if you replace Younis and Misbah with Imran and Miandad

[Wasim_Waqar]

I had a thought today.

What if Imran and Miandad were batting in Mohali instead of Younis and Misbah?

How would they tackle the Indian spinners?

I would've loved to have seen it: I am sure Javed would use his feet and move all around the crease. Loved his innovations, he was the man that started a lot of these reverse sweeps!

[Desi]

hopefully not how he handled this

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65187.html

[Wasim_Waqar]

He was past his peak. I mean in their element.

[farsiddiqui]

Past his peak and mis-used at that. He was not a #6 batsman. Should've come higher up. Ijaz and Inzy dropped the ball up the order anyway.

[spiron]

Just yesterday i was thinking how here in Bengal the national past time seems to be calling for a strike and then sit whole day long doing nothing.

[rhussain33]

Easy, they both would have won the match, Khan Saab doesnt stand for purposefully losing semi finals for the polticians orders.

[Love Pakistan]

Ok... I was thinking yesterday that if my dad was Imran khan and mom was queen of England... It would have been a different story... :facepalm:

[freelance_cricketer]

You get a 1992 !

:jm , a grand 40 run knock from 110 deliveries

:imran, out on duck , A DUCK ! :duck

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/65133.html

[Wasim_Waqar]

Yes I do remember 1992 but that wasn't a knockout match.

I would've expected Javed to nudge, nurdle, sweep, move around the crease, cut, reverse sweep.

Amazing how modern cricketers find it hard to apply their skills in swinging conditions/spinning wickets these days compared to those days.

[Savak]

I would preferred Inzamam to bat in place of Misbah. He would never have batted in this retarded manner

6,1,0,0,0,0
4,1,0,0,0,0

but would have

1,1,1,4,1,1
6,1,1,1,1,1

I am sorry but Misbah's batting warranted a serious Anti-corruption, integrity investigation by the PCB especially in light of the fact that this was not the first time he has done this to Pakistan in a crunch game. I mean even someone with the heart and desire to win would have risked getting out in the attempt to up the ante as oppossed to just blocking, blocking, blocking and piling up the pressure on the rest of the batting order in the biggest match ever.

[Wasim_Waqar]

I think the ICC should investigate it

[Tay'yab-Ali Malik]

Malik & Yusuf would have seen us home

[iHammad]

Malik & Yusuf would have seen us home

Yup, I remember this match like yesterday!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iccct2009/engine/current/match/415278.html

[Sledger]

No, that is just Misbah's way. He completely miscalculates run chases and thinks he can go at a 200+ SR at the end to win the match. There was the famous example of the 07 T20 game but does anyone remember the ODI at Napier when he batted slowly throughout before accelerating once the tail came in? (even then, Sohail Tanvir had to smash a few boundaries to seal the deal).

On topic, I think Miandad alone would have had more of an impact than these two because all the run chase required was 'singlesdoubles :jm' play.


edit - checked the scorecard,was a bit harsh, Misbah didn't actually bat that slowly in the above game.

[mrk]

what about forget past and think about future. For me seems to we are stuck in past !!! Javed and Imran were great great player person who faught like lions for Pakistan. Now days kids dont even will get close to what those 2 were.

[Wasim_Waqar]

Misbah-ul-Haq c Kohli b Khan 56 (134m 76b) SR: 73.68

41 dots balls i.e. balls without any run, 26 Singles, 2 Doubles, 5 Fours and 1 Six

Came at no. 5 in 23.5 ov. Pakistan’s score was 103/3, 158 req in 26 ov; RRR 6.07; RR 4.29

I mean come on! 6 an over over 26 overs is NOT a big ask with Umar Akmal, Afridi, Razzaq and the capable Gul to follow. I think getting it down to 70-80 off 10 would've been fine. Pathetic!

How the art of rotating the strike has been lost...

[iHammad]

Mohali :(

[Usman]

To answer the question exactly how it is put in the OP, if Imran and Miandad had been in Mohali instead of Misbah, I think they would have surely struggled big time. Firstly, because they are two people and I'm pretty sure the Indians, however stupid they've looked this summer, would not have let us swap one player (Misbah) for two players (Imran and Miandad).

Not lets just presume that they both did somehow manage to replace Misbah. The match occured in 2011. Both Miandad and Imran are well into their fifties. Despite their excellence in the early 90s, I think they would struggle hopelessly, even against the mighty pace of Sreesanth.

I therefore conclude that Imran and Miandad could not have done better than Misbah in Mohali.

[freelance_cricketer]

Yes I do remember 1992 but that wasn't a knockout match.

I would've expected Javed to nudge, nurdle, sweep, move around the crease, cut, reverse sweep.

Amazing how modern cricketers find it hard to apply their skills in swinging conditions/spinning wickets these days compared to those days.

That is even worse then, how can that team be expected to win a big pressure knock out game when it even chokes in a group game ? :13:

[Cricfan4eva]

To answer the question exactly how it is put in the OP, if Imran and Miandad had been in Mohali instead of Misbah, I think they would have surely struggled big time. Firstly, because they are two people and I'm pretty sure the Indians, however stupid they've looked this summer, would not have let us swap one player (Misbah) for two players (Imran and Miandad).

Not lets just presume that they both did somehow manage to replace Misbah. The match occured in 2011. Both Miandad and Imran are well into their fifties. Despite their excellence in the early 90s, I think they would struggle hopelessly, even against the mighty pace of Sreesanth.

I therefore conclude that Imran and Miandad could not have done better than Misbah in Mohali.

:)))

[MalikMohsin]

Yup, I remember this match like yesterday!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iccct2009/engine/current/match/415278.html

Too bad, our nation shows no respect for this performance due to favoritism. We desperately needed Yousuf and Malik, but not Younis and Misbah. Even today, they haven't retired which they should, by the end of year for PCB to make ways for Asad Shafique, Hammad Azam.

The replacement of tailender has been replaced by middle order batsman (Shoaib Malik). That's done. Misbah and Younis retirement are left now.

[Bullet Drive]

That is even worse then, how can that team be expected to win a big pressure knock out game when it even chokes in a group game ? :13:

We won the pressure games at the end of the tournament and thats what matters, right?

We won the 1992 world cup.. Now shh.

[anakwalajinn]

What a pointless thread.
People should get over that match.

One can create many what if scenarios for that match, and thousands for the past.
"What if :misbah didn't play THAT shot". "What is The SL team bus was not attacked" "What if :inzi was skinny"

Feel free to discuss this though, just my opinion.

[frenchcut]

Easy, they both would have won the match, Khan Saab doesnt stand for purposefully losing semi finals for the polticians orders.


Another conspiracy theorist. I love your type. Makes the victory of that game even sweeter.

[cricaddict]

I loooooove these threads :)

[anakwalajinn]

threads banao possibilities likhte raho. india won, and they ended up winning the whole thing
game over.

amir got caught a year ago and he is also done
game over.

what if what if what if jab daikho what if aur kyon k piche

[freelance_cricketer]

We won the pressure games at the end of the tournament and thats what matters, right?

We won the 1992 world cup.. Now shh.

No arguement about it, but aren't we talking about India-Pakistan here?

[freelance_cricketer]

What a pointless thread.
People should get over that match.

One can create many what if scenarios for that match, and thousands for the past.
"What if :misbah didn't play THAT shot". "What is The SL team bus was not attacked" "What if :inzi was skinny"

Feel free to discuss this though, just my opinion.

Bang on.

What if that Miandad six never happened :13:

[kkmix]

C'mon now ... we can all make fun of our cricketers but let's be realistic, I mean Imran at age 60+ and Miandad at age 55+ can't even lift the bat I feel.

[Sultan Yusuf]

If Immy and Javed had played that match, there would have been one thing for sure - they would have been TRYING to WIN the match.

We all know that match was handed on a plate - you have to be extremely naive and delusional to believe otherwise.

[insaaniyat]

I had a thought today.

What if Imran and Miandad were batting in Mohali instead of Younis and Misbah?

How would they tackle the Indian spinners?

I would've loved to have seen it: I am sure Javed would use his feet and move all around the crease. Loved his innovations, he was the man that started a lot of these reverse sweeps!

Result would have been different only because of Imran being the captain. He would not have bowed to the pressure of high level official to lose to India just to save his captaincy.

[salman24]

Malik and Yousuf instead of Yk and Misbah would've won that.

[insaaniyat]

If Immy and Javed had played that match, there would have been one thing for sure - they would have been TRYING to WIN the match.

We all know that match was handed on a plate - you have to be extremely naive and delusional to believe otherwise.

Spot on. There is no doubt what so ever.

[zzebie]

If Immy and Javed had played that match, there would have been one thing for sure - they would have been TRYING to WIN the match.

We all know that match was handed on a plate - you have to be extremely naive and delusional to believe otherwise.
Exactly, how can Pakistan loose a match to India? People are just naive and delusional to believe otherwise.

[BoiWonder]

please refrain from making threads about that cursed semi-final. all of us here are trying to forget that pathetic display of batting and then there are some people with the "what ifs"

[freelance_cricketer]

Funny that the guy who rose to the occasion was the one who epitomizes everything wrong in Cricket :farhat

Batted bravely
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Suresh+Raina+Pakistan+v+India+2011+ICC+World+7psDi 3RC3CQl.jpg

Threw his :butt around for the risky singles
http://www.nbtvlive.com/images/photogallery-images/Sports-5486-nbtvlive-image.jpg

And diving right , left and high to take the catches and stop the boundaries
http://images.supersport.co.za/Suresh-Raina-fields-110330-G600.jpg

That's ma nigga :19:

[anakwalajinn]

Bang on.

What if that Miandad six never happened :13:

WHAT IF :sachin had been dropped early in his career?

Would there still be Misbah > Dravid > Sachin thread's? :D

[freelance_cricketer]

I can tell you, i wouldn't have been here then :yk

[cricaddict]

Exactly, how can Pakistan loose a match to India? People are just naive and delusional to believe otherwise.

just Like in 92 , 96 , 99, 03 .... Remember ?? Pls dont forget those :(

[spiron]

Exactly, how can Pakistan loose a match to India? People are just naive and delusional to believe otherwise.


Like the earlier editions of WC.
People are naive, delusional and bhulakkad to forget that.



I rem there was a member who went with the message: Aaja India, Mohali mein aaja.. with an egging on smiley. How times change.

[Itachi]

I thought this was a bump on a thread made after the world cup.

but am shocked! Its yesterday! After half a year! and still these "if" speculations are going on.... Forget it guys. Pakistan lose, india won.... End of story.

Geez some people here have too much time to think about some conspiracy theories. Learn to accept a defeat. Everything isn't conspiracy. Give respect to the team which entered the semi final. It isn't a fluke. By saying those things, you guys are dis respecting what pakistan team had achieved.

[rajan70]

LOL @ the inflate egos here but then theres no big surprise as its well known that the world cup loss to India has always hurt the Pakistani team and losing in a knock out match where every Pakistani fan was pinning hopes of beating & humiliating India at there own home has only made things worse this time , making it difficult for average fan to come in terms with reality even today . Thats why winning the world cup games is so important that has a long lasting impact compared to those trivial Wins in Limca/ Sprite / 7 UP tournaments in Sharjah .

On the Topic , Pakistani fans should take a look at the history of matches in the world cup and realize that the presence of Imran , Miandad , Wasim , Waqar , Inzamam , Akhtar , Anwar or any other Pakistani star has never helped the team to beat India , it seems like an impossible task wherein at the biggest stage Pakistanis always succumb to the pressure inflicted by there Indian counterparts leading upto an ultimate choke . Therefore rather than regretting about bygones and thinking about weird scenarios the Pakistani fans should agree that the best chance of Pakistan doing well in the World Cup is to avoid playing India in a knock out match , thats the only way for you lot to save yourself from embarrassment and crying over with conspiracy theories for rest of your lives.

Every Test Playing Nation has been able to defeat India at the World Cup including Bangladesh & Zimbabwe whereas for Pakistan its still an unfulfilled dream and shall always remain so .

[SID_ZONE]

What if Inzamam and Anwar were batting? what if Akram and Waqar were the bowlers? what if it was played at Sydney/Bangalore/Old Trafford or Centurion?
Answer is very simple, Pakistan will lose to India if it's a World Cup match :)

[saeedhk]

Yaar buss kar......'Yeh hota to kya hota,woh hota to kya hota'.We lost end of story.

[sharaf katawazi]

agar younis aur misbah ki jaga tho ota to ye match zarror win karte

[freelance_cricketer]

Sub chhodo, agar umpire Bucknor hota hum gye thhe :23: :))

[anakwalajinn]

LOL @ the inflate egos here but then theres no big surprise as its well known that the world cup loss to India has always hurt the Pakistani team and losing in a knock out match where every Pakistani fan was pinning hopes of beating & humiliating India at there own home has only made things worse this time , making it difficult for average fan to come in terms with reality even today . Thats why winning the world cup games is so important that has a long lasting impact compared to those trivial Wins in Limca/ Sprite / 7 UP tournaments in Sharjah .

On the Topic , Pakistani fans should take a look at the history of matches in the world cup and realize that the presence of Imran , Miandad , Wasim , Waqar , Inzamam , Akhtar , Anwar or any other Pakistani star has never helped the team to beat India , it seems like an impossible task wherein at the biggest stage Pakistanis always succumb to the pressure inflicted by there Indian counterparts leading upto an ultimate choke . Therefore rather than regretting about bygones and thinking about weird scenarios the Pakistani fans should agree that the best chance of Pakistan doing well in the World Cup is to avoid playing India in a knock out match , thats the only way for you lot to save yourself from embarrassment and crying over with conspiracy theories for rest of your lives.

Every Test Playing Nation has been able to defeat India at the World Cup including Bangladesh & Zimbabwe whereas for Pakistan its still an unfulfilled dream and shall always remain so .

Naah gonna get u in T20 WC next year :D


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[freelance_cricketer]

Naah gonna get u in T20 WC next year :D


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You kiddig bro? :yk