Not one but three coaches required: PCB Chairman

[SwingNSeam]

LAHORE: PCB Chairman Zaka Ashraf said Tuesday there should be three coaches for the Pakistan cricket team, Geo News reported.

Ashraf who has replaced Ijaz Butt as the chairman of the cricket board said there should be separate batting, bowling and fielding coaches.

“Separate coaches will help improve the technique of our players” Ashraf said while speaking to the media.

Commenting on bringing international cricket back to Pakistan, Ashraf said international teams should tour Pakistan.

Source: http://geo.tv/11-1-2011/88383.htm

[hamzamunir]

Cha gya oye zakeyah!!

[Desi_Joker]

Shaabash Shaabash! :14:

Very good decision!

[SwingNSeam]

Just hope there is no conflict of ideas and egos if 3 coaches are appointed.

[hamzamunir]

LMAO i'm forgetting this is PCB...this is one of those times where we take 1 step forward and 2 step backwards.

He'll appoint 3 egomaniacs from Pakistan to be coaches. They'll eventually pick favorites between players, and cause calamity in dressing room.

[Sherlock]

One thing saying it, another doing it.

[akamaka]

:14:
Chaalo, lets try this out as well. :ibutt

[Proud To Be A Pakistani]

well you can have team of 3 coaches .. but you need a head above them ... to put them all as one .. .else you have ... 3 directions .... some coaching setups work ..... that way. ... I guess england have more than one coach usually its common thingy for football .. where all the coaches actually work for the manager

[JibranAnsari]

We need three coaches yes, but one of them has to head the other two coaches. Bowling coach can be a pakistani and fielding and batting coach should be foreigners. Preferably make batting coach the head.

[kasim7864]

Head Coach - Team strategy alongside captain. Should also have an area of expertise eg. batting or bowling.

Batting Coach - Works with batsmen and advises upon batting strategy with captain+head coach.

Bowling Coach - Works with bowlers and advises upon bowling strategy with captain+head coach.

Only thing missing is a specialist fielding coach in this model.

[shahrukh619]

Bolta bhot hai Let's see what he does

[AZ]

does not necessarily mean they will hire 3 coaches. :zaka

[SwingNSeam]

He said in the interview they need 3 coaches: batting, bowling and fielding. The guy looked serious, lets see if he ends up actually doing it. :))

[shahrukh619]

Well he has said that we need 3 coaches, but lets see who are those coaches.

Fielding coach is most importent. I would rather have the PCB spend a good amount on getting a fielding coach.

[attock]

Good idea but we also need a head coach.....wasim akram would make a good bowling coach

[asifp]

Just make it like football

Team Manager/Strategist and specialist coaches. Exactly like England

[Amjid Javed]

Didnt we have this so called set up before with waqar as head coach, aquib as bowling coach and then a batting consultant!

Pretty pointless stuff and a waste off money as usual!

we just need one head coach who works on all aspects off the game!

[Sledger]

He's been saying a lot of good things so far, let's hope he acts out on them.

This is the modern structure and it's important to get specialist coaches.

[Desi]

don't like the idea. the coaches better be best friends or it will be a disaster

[proud_pakistani]

Dont think it will work unless Zaka makes sure that there is one coach who has final say on the final 11. However, it may also cause grouping in the camp.

It may sound great, but knowing Pakistan it may well be a disaster.

[Justcrazy]

Good Idea, but first get a proper head coach preferably a batsman.

[kingusama92]

I think you need four coaches, not three.

One head coach and then the three coaches he listed underneath his control.

The head coach should be responsible for the overall tactics and shaping the practices for the team. Thus, the batting, fielding and bowling coaches can work with his plans and help prepare the players.

Just having a batting, bowling and fielding coach will end up creating issues. Egos will certainly get in the way with one coach wanting more time with the players.

[mastermind_quad]

that's a very good thought process ...:14:...come on chairman go for it.......

[high-tech]

Great Zaka appointed by Great leadership who has one mottto. "khao aur khany do"
Now we will have 3 more leeches sucking life out of PCB, good job sir.

[Pakprideuk]

There's no point having four coaches, but you definately need a head coach. The head coach should have a speciality in either bowling or batting. If the head coach is a former batsmen then he should also perform the role of batting coach and then you can hire a bowling coach and fielding coach.

[w8in_4_0402]

MHK Head and batting coach

Aqib Javed Bowling coach and get some foriegn fielding and fitness coach.

[kingusama92]

There's no point having four coaches, but you definately need a head coach. The head coach should have a speciality in either bowling or batting. If the head coach is a former batsmen then he should also perform the role of batting coach and then you can hire a bowling coach and fielding coach.

England has FIVE coaches. It's a proven concept.

England Head Coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: David Saker
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Batting coach: Graham Gooch
Fielding coach: Richard Halsall

I disagree with three coaches, but four coaches is definitely appropriate (assuming one is a head coach).

[PakPrince]

I hope he also intends for a HEAD COACH along with these 3 coaches.

Otherwise all hell will break loose..

oath taking, groupings whatnot will take place again

[Ironcat]

Looks like a polite way of saying "I can't pick from the final three"....

[kingusama92]

Looks like a polite way of saying "I can't pick from the final three"....

There is no way he's getting three foreign coaches to sign up at the same time.

They all want the head coach spot.

[Wristy_Shuffler]

I think you need four coaches, not three.

One head coach and then the three coaches he listed underneath his control.

The head coach should be responsible for the overall tactics and shaping the practices for the team. Thus, the batting, fielding and bowling coaches can work with his plans and help prepare the players.

Just having a batting, bowling and fielding coach will end up creating issues. Egos will certainly get in the way with one coach wanting more time with the players.

Hmmm. This could work if the head coach is allowed to have some input on who the other coaches are.

[PerfectionPersonified]

absolute stupid idea , there would always be politics when there are three coaches consequently further division --btw he needs to justify WHY three coaches - name any other team who has three different coaches -- i am not aware of any but i may be wrong plus three coaches with conflicting priorities are just asking for more trouble

ohhhhhhhhh disappointed at his first decision so far -

[style_guru]

Well, why not have 7 coaches? Like-

1) Batting coach for Right handed batsmen.
2) Batting coach for Left handed batsmen.
3) Bowling coach for Right arm fast bowlers.
4) Bowling coach for Left arm fast bowlers.
5) Bowling coach for Off spin bowlers.
6) Bowling coach for Leg spin bowling (If :afridi needs any)
7) Fielding coach.

P.S:- I've not included bowling coach for Left arm spinners which may be done later:zoni
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On a serious note, it's common these days to have a head coach with specialist assistants for different departments.

To have three different full time coaches will only add to the chaos.

Instead, specialist coaches can be appointed at the club or first class level so that while the players are going through the churn, they can be fine tuned.

Only my two cents worth.

[Zeeraq]

2 foreigner coaches and 1 local & Coach shouldn't select the final XI it's the captains job.

[>>FaHaD<<]

I think a Bowling or a Batting coach can fullfill the purpose of a Fielding coach as well.

[Watsupdoc]

Do they have the finances to hire 3 coaches? :))

[SwingNSeam]

absolute stupid idea , there would always be politics when there are three coaches consequently further division --btw he needs to justify WHY three coaches - name any other team who has three different coaches -- i am not aware of any but i may be wrong plus three coaches with conflicting priorities are just asking for more trouble

ohhhhhhhhh disappointed at his first decision so far -

England.

[Zeeraq]

Do they have the finances to hire 3 coaches? :))

Yo talking about finance ! Sure they have it but for Chairman & Officials only:pissed:.

[Watsupdoc]

Yo talking about finance ! Sure they have it but for Chairman & Officials only:pissed:.

:))) So true! :zaka

[Zeeraq]

:))) So true! :zaka

Javed Miandad is getting paid like 5 lacs for doing nothing, Our chief selector doesn't even go to watch local domestic competitions.

[Law]

I like this guy. Not only because of this 3 coaches but his overall interaction with media.

Let's hope he is actually good for the game we all live for!

[Zeeraq]

I like this guy. Not only because of this 3 coaches but his overall interaction with media.

Let's hope he is actually good for the game we all live for!

Let's Hope. He looks professional enough.

[Amjid Javed]

England has FIVE coaches. It's a proven concept.

England Head Coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: David Saker
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Batting coach: Graham Gooch
Fielding coach: Richard Halsall

I disagree with three coaches, but four coaches is definitely appropriate (assuming one is a head coach).

England dont have to deal with egos and non-proffesional attitudes that pakistan has to!

[Zeeraq]

England dont have to deal with egos and non-proffesional attitudes that pakistan has to!

So lets have 3 foreigner coaches.

[shakil]

So lets have 3 foreigner coaches.

No need to. Just have one high profile head coach and 2/3 low profile but experienced coaches underneath him. That may also solve the politics problem.

[yousuf_yousuf_yousuf!!!]

We already have this sans a fielding specialist -

Aaqib Javed - Bowling Coach
Ijaz Ahmad - Batting Coach

[JellyBro]

why not slap on a phychaitrist else well while we're at it. :inti :specialneeds

[PerfectionPersonified]

three coaches = waste of money

infact a method / opportunity to shift blame /responsibility on others when things go wrong not to mention an opportunity to have grouping within the team-

really poor decision by the chairman i hope he has some feasibility study done who this would work

[alberto]

England has FIVE coaches. It's a proven concept.

England Head Coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: David Saker
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Batting coach: Graham Gooch
Fielding coach: Richard Halsall

I disagree with three coaches, but four coaches is definitely appropriate (assuming one is a head coach).

and they have bruce french as their wicket keeping coach

[The Muppets XI]

:O looks like the PCB have advertised the 3 coaching vacancies on its web site - closing date 18th November - shocked.

[AmmarAshraf]

Yes this is the link of advertisement

http://www.pcb.com.pk/downloads/national-team-coaches-vacancies.pdf

[Bullet Drive]

Whats there site^

[MMHS]

It's a better approach to me. I think for bowling coach, they can get someone from inside Pakistan, but for the other 2, I think, they are looking for foreigners. The requirements, that are asked as prerequisites, I don't think apart from bowling coach's position, there are many options in side. If it's a continuation of on going coach hunt process, it 'll be beneficiary, as long as PCB can afford the expenses. However, the expenses shouldn't be a problem, as BCB pays for a 6/7 man backroom staff, only 1 of them is local (Rest are white men from Aus, SAF & Eng) & they are well paid for the reputation for their previous experience & pedigree.

I assume (for a positive note), PCB has selected a Head Coach/Director of Coaching; now are looking to appoint 3 specialists & the recruitment 'll be done along with the Head Coach. This is the normal way of appointing backroom staff, used by Football clubs (Or Corporates as well; select/poach/head hunt the manager, set his KPI & allow him to build his team within a budget & head count). Actually, Stuart Law was appointed by BCB, with a local deputy & for the rest of backroom staff selection, both of them actively participating, big time.

For fielding Coach's position, Julien Fontain is probably free now. Batting coach must be someone with a professional experience in Eng, Aus or Saf. There should be enough bowling coaches available in Pakistan, but I would have loved to see Wasim Bhai.

[Bullet Drive]

Head coach: Dav Whatmore
Batting coach: Steve Waugh
Bowling coach: Aqib Javed
Fielding coach: Jonty Rhodes
Fitness: Dwyre.

Now that would be great and another great post from MMHS :D

[The Muppets XI]

Good post MMHS. Was thinking the same about maybe a Head Coach has already been hired. Would make sense to have one on board before hiring coaches to work under him - should be part of the recruitment process. The adverts also slightly more professional than the original one for the Head Coach, lets hope they stick to hiring someone that fulfils the requirements, rather than 'jobs for the boys'

[Markhor]

We also need a Head Coach, but specialist coaches are definitely the right way to go.

[Down2Earth]

zaka sahib doing all the talking, lets hope he can act accordingly too :zardari

[kingusama92]

I agree with the posters above.

The head coach should be hired first. Therefore, he can offer his opinion on who he wishes to have alongside him in those roles.

The head coach should be part of the hiring process for the remaining coaches.

[Down2Earth]

I agree with the posters above.

The head coach should be hired first. Therefore, he can offer his opinion on who he wishes to have alongside him in those roles.

The head coach should be part of the hiring process for the remaining coaches.

i'm not sure if that's the best idea. hypothetically speaking, if inzi ever became the head coach, he'd hire moyo as the batting coach, anwar as the fielding coach, and mushtaq ahmed as the bowling coach.

such decisions should be made by the chairman or an independent panel.

[MMHS]

i'm not sure if that's the best idea. hypothetically speaking, if inzi ever became the head coach, he'd hire moyo as the batting coach, anwar as the fielding coach, and mushtaq ahmed as the bowling coach.

such decisions should be made by the chairman or an independent panel.


Exactly that's why Inzi should never be appointed as Head Coach. He could be a perfect Batting coach, but not HC. He don't have the personality or professional approach to do such job. I don't think someone with a mindset of putting seniority, personal friendship or religious beliefs over the task assigned could be a good Manager, for that matter Captain. These issues results in double standards & creates division in any group.

In top European football leagues, to be a professional Head Coach (They call manager), you have to earn a coaching license approved by UEFA, which includes man-management, organization & a lot of other management courses while there are specialized coaches for first team, like goal-keeping, defense co-ordinations etc.

By the way, I think the support staff should be appointed by a panel & HC should be part of it rather than one man show either way. Had Mr. Butt Sr. stayed for few more years, Intikhab Alam probably would have died as a PCB employee.

[kingusama92]

i'm not sure if that's the best idea. hypothetically speaking, if inzi ever became the head coach, he'd hire moyo as the batting coach, anwar as the fielding coach, and mushtaq ahmed as the bowling coach.

such decisions should be made by the chairman or an independent panel.

I said "offer his opinions" not actually do the hirings.

It's just so everyone can be on the same page from the start. Plus, the committee will get an idea of what the head coach is looking for in his assistants.

[Saj]

I don't agree with the 3 coach idea.

I'd prefer a head coach and one other, depending on where the skills of the head coach are.

For example if the head coach is a batsman, then employ an assistant as the bowling coach.

The phrase too many cooks spoil the broth comes to mind.

[Zeeraq]

Pakistan need a fielding coach.

[CORNERED-TIGER]

need ONE coach for PCB Chairman aswel...