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Cover Drive
22nd November 2011, 16:42
Not sure but is it natural?
I would change my action in nearly every net session and I am never consistent with my action.
In 2009 when I started playing I had Harimson/Flintoff action and I would bowl brilliantly but later I said I don't want Harimson action then I changed to Waqar, Akhtar, Mohammad Asif, Amir etc and now I am not able to find which one is natural for me :))
PaPaPak
22nd November 2011, 16:46
Same story is with me :d I can bowl with almost every action although not perfect,
Thing is with different actions you have different benefits as when i do the Shoaib Akhtar's action i bowl at a better pace but my i hardly have any control on my line , when i do malinga's action the ball doesn't bounce much and easy to get wickets but that way i ball lots of wides down the leg , and than its my action which is a bit like UmarGul i get the best control and pace isn;t bad but i do use other actions to confuse batsmen :D
PaPaPak
22nd November 2011, 16:47
Try bowling with a new ball and than target a line and length and bowl with different actions see which one is the best for you :D am non expert but i think it will work
SempreSami
22nd November 2011, 16:53
Forget emulating certain players' actions, focus on getting your rhythm right, like your front foot landing as your bowling arm comes over etc.
Cover Drive
22nd November 2011, 17:11
Try bowling with a new ball and than target a line and length and bowl with different actions see which one is the best for you :D am non expert but i think it will work
Nah you need lots of skills to bowl with new bowl, it swings etc etc
Cover Drive
22nd November 2011, 17:12
Forget emulating certain players' actions, focus on getting your rhythm right, like your front foot landing as your bowling arm comes over etc.
Sounds solid indeed, will do this from now on.
Hasnain_786
22nd November 2011, 18:45
Same here with the action thingy with my normal action i get natural swing but whenever i doesnt work for me i decide to change my action for no reason
shirazi_r
22nd November 2011, 19:27
Same here with the action thingy with my normal action i get natural swing but whenever i doesnt work for me i decide to change my action for no reason
Your action HAS to be consistent, if it's not then forget about your line, length and movement being consistent. If you want to understand why the ball isn't swinging, take into account weather and what not but more importantly, the subtle things like wrist position and release.
Hasnain_786
22nd November 2011, 20:54
Your action HAS to be consistent, if it's not then forget about your line, length and movement being consistent. If you want to understand why the ball isn't swinging, take into account weather and what not but more importantly, the subtle things like wrist position and release.
Thanks Shirazi
Another thing I want to ask. I want to know if its OK that you can make little adjustments to your action because the old action I had was killing my body and I couldn't stand it so I decide to give some minor tweaks. Is that something I shouldn't do? I'm 15 BTW
Fireworks11
22nd November 2011, 21:16
Thankfully my action's always been fairly consistent, the key is you have to be comfortable with it. Every bowler is different, don't try to copy your friend.
shirazi_r
22nd November 2011, 21:33
Thanks Shirazi
Another thing I want to ask. I want to know if its OK that you can make little adjustments to your action because the old action I had was killing my body and I couldn't stand it so I decide to give some minor tweaks. Is that something I shouldn't do? I'm 15 BTW
You shouldn't be bowling with your action at all if it's killing your body, especially not at 15. At that age you're more flexible and bowling shouldn't hurt unless you're doing it wrong.
I'd suggest asking a coach for help on correcting your flaws though if that's no possible, there are some wonderful video resources on Youtube.
Hasnain_786
22nd November 2011, 22:01
You shouldn't be bowling with your action at all if it's killing your body, especially not at 15. At that age you're more flexible and bowling shouldn't hurt unless you're doing it wrong.
I'd suggest asking a coach for help on correcting your flaws though if that's no possible, there are some wonderful video resources on Youtube.
Thanks again
Square Drive
23rd November 2011, 02:25
Before I was slightly like Malinga, but now I've changed to a spinner with an Abdur Rehman-esque action.
shahrukh619
23rd November 2011, 05:37
Same problem with me, i use to bowl the Sohail Tanvir action, but i wasn't able to bet pace on the ball like that. I 'm comfortable with the Wahab Riaz action as it's easy, but i awlays wanted to bowl like the Rawalpindi Express.
arsalan660
23rd November 2011, 08:33
Anyone who can suggest a good ball release tips?
Cover Drive
23rd November 2011, 15:12
Same problem with me, i use to bowl the Sohail Tanvir action, but i wasn't able to bet pace on the ball like that. I 'm comfortable with the Wahab Riaz action as it's easy, but i awlays wanted to bowl like the Rawalpindi Express.
Haha LOL :)) - Same here, for some reason I always tried to copy Shoaib Akhtar's action LOL
shahrukh619
23rd November 2011, 17:01
Haha LOL :)) - Same here, for some reason I always tried to copy Shoaib Akhtar's action LOL
There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.
You just want to be like him.
Cover Drive
24th November 2011, 03:59
There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.
You just want to be like him.
True.
But since it was sidearm/slinngly action it is difficult to mould.
Action can take ages. It took Imran Khan six years and he is the only bowler who completely changed his action.
Today at nets I used natural action which looks like Dale Steyn and Dwayne Bravo, pace was not there but line and length was very good and I was hitting the seam.
Theo_14
24th November 2011, 21:33
Anyone who can suggest a good ball release tips?
At county level we've been taught the importance of releasing the ball as early as possible.
It's essential for an pace/medium artistic to release the cherry as soon as possible... Ideal way, has improved me big time.
I usually tend to release the ball when my arm is right above my shoulder.
See below. When the arm is right above the shoulder - where his ear is, that's the ideal position and time to realise it. When releasing it with what I've adviced, make sure your head is straight until your follow through, when you try this with a hard ball... Do let me know if it makes a difference! :D
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-BF694_cricke_20080402092330.jpg
PaPaPak
25th November 2011, 07:37
Theo u are county player?
Theo_14
25th November 2011, 15:08
I was a county player last season for Glamorgan - even earned one cap for Wales U16s. However as for now... No I'm not a county player. Although I have trials coming up in mid March. :)
Bullet Drive
28th November 2011, 22:51
I was a county player last season for Glamorgan - even earned one cap for Wales U16s. However as for now... No I'm not a county player. Although I have trials coming up in mid March. :)
Really, that's great. I assume your a bowler than?
Cover Drive
29th November 2011, 05:48
Really, that's great. I assume your a bowler than?
Whatta marta hai bacha ;-) :))
Theo_14
30th November 2011, 11:47
Really, that's great. I assume your a bowler than?
Indeed. Left arm medium fast - there's a thread which includes a clip of me bowling, should be somewhere in the timepass section. :)
Whatta marta hai bacha ;-) :))
:))
Bullet Drive
30th November 2011, 19:16
Indeed. Left arm medium fast - there's a thread which includes a clip of me bowling, should be somewhere in the timepass section. :)
:))
Can you help me find that video please, I've looked for it but unfortunately can't find it anywhere? :(
Thank you.
anakwalajinn
8th December 2011, 02:25
Salaam.
Is it because you guys are not match bowlers in your team and only net bowlers? Or do you bowl in matches? I am probably the worst net bowler for my team. Start bowling spin and almost every batsmen hit me here and there, then I change my action just make something up and get even more phainty. Then I start joking around doing funny run ups etc :facepalm: Suddently I decide do bowl medium and bowl a couple of good deliveries until I get ismashed again :afridi
Cover Drive
8th December 2011, 04:10
Salaam.
Is it because you guys are not match bowlers in your team and only net bowlers? Or do you bowl in matches? I am probably the worst net bowler for my team. Start bowling spin and almost every batsmen hit me here and there, then I change my action just make something up and get even more phainty. Then I start joking around doing funny run ups etc :facepalm: Suddently I decide do bowl medium and bowl a couple of good deliveries until I get ismashed again :afridi
I don't bowl in matches because we have a very very good bowling attack and I don't qualify for that, full honest reply there really.
In nets I do bowl well somehow, maybe because of the bounce I get off the surface.
AsadMalik
19th February 2012, 14:15
Well, I guess the key is to build up your bowling action over a period of time. ie. I used to have a James Anderson'ish bowling action but I kept injuring my ankle. So I tried adjusting that and kept adjusting little stuff eg. release, run up, the way my arm goes through etc. until eventually I reached an action I was comfortable with (:cheema ish, minus the outwards jump) and everything else fell into place,. Bottom line don't try to copy anyone's action, just find one to start off with and adjust you problems one by one until you can't find any flaws in it.
baalti
20th February 2012, 22:59
Not sure but is it natural?
I would change my action in nearly every net session and I am never consistent with my action.
In 2009 when I started playing I had Harimson/Flintoff action and I would bowl brilliantly but later I said I don't want Harimson action then I changed to Waqar, Akhtar, Mohammad Asif, Amir etc and now I am not able to find which one is natural for me :))
you must join pak team with such a variety of natural actions bro :manzoor
you must be ripping right through opposition line ups :kami
could you detail us amateurs a bit on the differences between the actions of the above mentioned bowlers, kindly, thanks...
shahoo
21st February 2012, 02:26
waqar's action is the most complicated one
baalti
21st February 2012, 07:05
waqar's action is the most complicated one
wat nonsense are you talking about, op (CD) has tried it and has moved on from it, i wonder why he hasn't tried akram's yet :wasim
shahoo
22nd February 2012, 09:23
wat nonsense are you talking about, op (CD) has tried it and has moved on from it, i wonder why he hasn't tried akram's yet :wasim
you didnt got me,
baalti
22nd February 2012, 16:14
you didnt got me,
i was just saying that i am impressed/shocked how the op has so many great bowlers actions under his belt... :facepalm: :zoni :facepalm:
so you saying waqar's action is complicated is just nonsense ;-) ;-)
paulkatich
26th February 2012, 15:41
i was just saying that i am impressed/shocked how the op has so many great bowlers actions under his belt... :facepalm: :zoni :facepalm:
so you saying waqar's action is complicated is just nonsense ;-) ;-)
waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.
paulkatich
26th February 2012, 15:48
Theo_14 made a good point about releasing the ball. I used to copy alan donald( he had a good action) and later Glen Mcgrath. Later I was bowling same over with different actions, imagine that I was more worried about action than line and length and smacked all over the park for three sixes at a club game lesson learnt action is important pick an action which is natural(you feel comfortable) to you but concentrate on line and length and finally stop emulating players.
baalti
26th February 2012, 22:48
waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.
lol, op can take a back seat and you can take the hot seat... i would really like to see this... do you realize how many great cricketing bowlers we have had over time, yet no one comes and starts with a ditto style as one of the legends because we all have a particular style of our own due to our bio-dynamics... its really really tough to go and copy styles and bowl like that, if it were possible, all the pro cricketers would be simply copying the styles of legends... you learn a few things from them, but can't really copy them, if you manage to copy them you can't execute the styles... however, i have seen the op play, he is a friend of mine, and sorry to say, but I have not seen to date any resemblance of style from him of any of the bowler's he has mentioned... and i hope i am not holding a debate here with pre-teens, if i am then you win... i must be wrong... :asif
baalti
26th February 2012, 22:57
Theo_14 made a good point about releasing the ball. I used to copy alan donald( he had a good action) and later Glen Mcgrath. Later I was bowling same over with different actions, imagine that I was more worried about action than line and length and smacked all over the park for three sixes at a club game lesson learnt action is important pick an action which is natural(you feel comfortable) to you but concentrate on line and length and finally stop emulating players.
not a bad choice of words... you only have your own action, which if it isn't perfect, only needs a little bit of tweaking, no one goes to a bowler with slight action problem, "you know what, i want you to bowl with mcgrath's action or like steyn etc..." only if it were that simple.... at club level cricket lolz, half the guys don't even know what they just pitched and get all giddy about it...
reminds me of the time a dude one of my former team picked up mid way through the season came on to bowling, and got the batsman to play and miss the ball, next he starts telling me to go to field at GULLY position, to which i just put thumbs up to him as if DONE... and he yells again "go to GULLY dude, i need you there"... and i replied... "I AM AT GULLY POSITION MY FRIEND" "oh that's gully ok ya i want you there", "sure thing boss"... sigh, you gotta love club cricket and what comes with it...
smasher1980
29th February 2012, 13:22
waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.
Dammika Prasad.
Also, Waqar's action may not tough but I think it puts a lot of stress on the body..
paulkatich
29th February 2012, 20:43
Dammika Prasad.
Also, Waqar's action may not tough but I think it puts a lot of stress on the body..
Its true for all side on actions they put stress on body. Front on has less chances for injury.
smasher1980
4th March 2012, 22:47
Dammika Prasad.
Also, Waqar's action may not tough but I think it puts a lot of stress on the body..
Correction...it was Pushpakumara...not Dammika Prasad.
sidra
1st November 2012, 07:08
Asslam O Alikum
There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.........
thanx........
Square Drive
9th January 2013, 02:00
I've re-modelled my action. I'm a lefty Hafeez now. :hafeez
ExtraCoverDrive
9th January 2013, 14:19
My right arm medium fast is modelled after a hybrid of aaqib javed and shaun pollock.
left arm spinners after abdur rehman
right arm offspinners like saeed ajmal offcourse
and right arm leggies like i dont know who. Probably resembles piyush chawla. lol
yes i bowl all four but only in nets. In matches, its always leg spin
All-Rounder
1st May 2013, 13:27
I use Dale Steyn's action for bowling action and it works out for me. It depends on what you are comfortable with. I have a comfortable fit with the action!
Wasim_Waqar
8th May 2013, 16:19
I used to have the same problem.
Just find which action you have best control with. Then try to increase the pace with that action and attempt to maintain your control. You can slightly modify an action for different deliveries e.g. become slightly more round-arm for yorkers.
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