Poll-Should This be it for Malik?

[saeed-sohail]

This is 8th straight failure since coming back. H s record since his comeback reads......

ifiltered 9 8 1 40 14 5.71 65 61.53

Now do you think this should be his last game for Pakistan?

[W63L35]

He should not have been brought back in the first place.

[Hassan0987]

I feel his time is over, should be dropped from the team. Bring in :yk for the ODIs. This way Asad Shafiq can also play

[saeed-sohail]

He should not have been brought back in the first place.

There were some fans crying out for him. Some even say he would have won us Mohali(:))):))):))))

[saeed-sohail]

Mods can we have a poll to see his popularity.

[Shahzebayub]

So where is pool haa

[Strike!]

*Awaits BZ and Riff.

[Zaz]

He should never have been selected for this tour

[*sallu*]

No, I think we should play him till 2015 world cup, he needs a long run, he'll come good

[W63L35]

There were some fans crying out for him. Some even say he would have won us Mohali(:))):))):))))

Not fanssssss.... just one fan. Kids in diapers don't count. :P

....and that fan is either a family member or just a troll! He can't be just a fan like you and me.

[Ahsan_8]

Shouldn't have been brought back in the first place , we have Hafeez who is basically Malik X 100.

:hafeez

[saeed-sohail]

Not fanssssss.... just one fan. Kids in diapers don't count. :P

....and that fan is either a family member or just a troll! He can't be just a fan like you and me.


I see some big names here.



View Poll Results: Should Malik Have Been Selected for the 2011 WC Probables/Squad?
Yes
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[Afridi_Fan]

Then some of your so called :quote:Mature:quote: ones are also in that group.

[Afridi_Fan]

Terrible terrible pitch. Yes, he is not performing well but let him play the entire tour, if he fails. Then sure it has to be his last series.

[saeed-sohail]

Then some of your so called :quote:Mature:quote: ones are also in that group.

Yes really surprised to see you and sallu there.

[khalil1986]

Waiting for BZ to click on yes LOL

[Afridi_Fan]

Because historically Malik does well in Sub-Continent.

[khalil1986]

Because historically Malik does well in Sub-Continent.

You are right however I think historically is the word we do not need to concentrate on anymore but future is the word of the month.

[AamchiMumbaikar]

First of all PAK doesn't need him, so it is the mistake of selectors to bring him back.

[ash 68]

Because historically Malik does well in Sub-Continent.

so did inzi

does that mean he should be playing?

give it up

Yk or Razzler needs to brought in instead of him

[saeed-sohail]

BZ aur Riff bhai aap iss record pe koi vishesh tippani farmaaye ge.

filtered 9 8 1 40 14 5.71 65 61.53

[Afridi_Fan]

You are right however I think historically is the word we do not need to concentrate on anymore but future is the word of the month.

Well SS posted all the names who voted for Malik for WC, so I was talking about that. And as I said if he fails completely on this full tour then yes it has to be his last.

[Afridi_Fan]

so did inzi

does that mean he should be playing?

give it up

Yk or Razzler needs to brought in instead of him

Plain stupid. 1st read what I said then reply.

[saeed-sohail]

Well SS posted all the names who voted for Malik for WC, so I was talking about that. And as I said if he fails completely on this full tour then yes it has to be his last.

So you want him in the 11 for ODI series regardless of his performance?

[Kwremb]

He's a must when we play against India but other than that shouldn't be anywhere near the team.

[Afridi_Fan]

So you want him in the 11 for ODI series regardless of his performance?

If Hammad Azam is not there then yes.

[khalil1986]

Well SS posted all the names who voted for Malik for WC, so I was talking about that. And as I said if he fails completely on this full tour then yes it has to be his last.

Let's hope the selectors are thinking the same way as we are. We really cannot afford to carry any deadwood when we play England.

[saeed-sohail]

If Hammad Azam is not there then yes.

So would you drop to bring YK in?

[*sallu*]

Yes really surprised to see you and sallu there.

It was probables list, at that time based on his domestic performance, he was in the top 35 players in the country and WC was in conditions where he has done alright historically

But enough is enough, this guy was given a chance, which was debatable, but theres nothing debatable about his performances

[khalil1986]

So you want him in the 11 for ODI series regardless of his performance?

I hope he plays and fails miserably, this tour is meaningless but if we can get rid of the likes of Malik and Tanvir I hope the play all the games and get wasted.

[Afridi_Fan]

So would you drop to bring YK in?

I have stated that hundred of times that Malik is in the side as an all-rounder not a batsman. There are 3 batsmen spots in the side and is being contested by :shafiq :yk :misbah and :umarakmal

[*sallu*]

I have stated that hundred of times that Malik is in the side as an all-rounder not a batsman. There are 3 batsmen spots in the side and is being contested by :shafiq :yk :misbah and :umarakmal

LOL Disagree completely, hes averaging... what? 2 overs a game for a long time now I reckon.

[saeed-sohail]

I have stated that hundred of times that Malik is in the side as an all-rounder not a batsman. There are 3 batsmen spots in the side and is being contested by :shafiq :yk :misbah and :umarakmal

No he is not an all-rounder. We have Gul Cheema and Tanvir/khalil then Afridi Ajmal and Hafeez. He is not needed.

[Abdullah Zubair]

There were some fans crying out for him. Some even say he would have won us Mohali(:))):))):))))

He might have. Has a good record against India.

[saeed-sohail]

Malik getting cheap wickets and I am afraid enhances his chances to keep his spot.

[Afridi_Fan]

Okay, lets do it again. I hope this time some people will understand.

1- Mohammad Hafeez.

2- Imran Farhat.

3- Younis Khan/Asad Shafiq.

4- Misbah-Ul-Haq.

5- Umar Akmal.

6- All-Rounder (Hammad/Malik/Razzaq)

7- Shahid Afridi.

8- Sarfraz Ahmed.

9- Saeed Ajmal.

10- Umar Gul.

11- Aizaz Cheema.

Now if you want to play YK for Malik that will mean you will go in a game with only 5 bowling options. Are you willing to take the risk? What if one bowler has a bad day and leaks runs then you will have no bowling option and will have to continue to bowl him.

Other option, play Umar Akmal as a WK. I do not want to burden him with that added responsibility.

So, Malik is playing as an all-rounder not as a specialist batsman.

[Kwremb]

Okay, lets do it again. I hope this time some people will understand.

1- Mohammad Hafeez.

2- Imran Farhat.

3- Younis Khan/Asad Shafiq.

4- Misbah-Ul-Haq.

5- Umar Akmal.

6- All-Rounder (Hammad/Malik/Razzaq)

7- Shahid Afridi.

8- Sarfraz Ahmed.

9- Saeed Ajmal.

10- Umar Gul.

11- Aizaz Cheema.

Now if you want to play YK for Malik that will mean you will go in a game with only 5 bowling options. Are you willing to take the risk? What if one bowler has a bad day and leaks runs then you will have no bowling option and will have to continue to bowl him.

Other option, play Umar Akmal as a WK. I do not want to burden him with that added responsibility.

So, Malik is playing as an all-rounder not as a specialist batsman.

Hafeez is a full time bowler nowadays so we'll be going in with 6 bowlers technically so we can afford to have an extra batsman. And what is Farhat doing there? :zaka

Edit - Sorry thought Safraz was a bowler at first glance :yk

[kkmix]

Malik is not playing as an all rounder in today's game :facepalm:

[saeed-sohail]

Okay, lets do it again. I hope this time some people will understand.

1- Mohammad Hafeez.

2- Imran Farhat.

3- Younis Khan/Asad Shafiq.

4- Misbah-Ul-Haq.

5- Umar Akmal.

6- All-Rounder (Hammad/Malik/Razzaq)

7- Shahid Afridi.

8- Sarfraz Ahmed.

9- Saeed Ajmal.

10- Umar Gul.

11- Aizaz Cheema.

Now if you want to play YK for Malik that will mean you will go in a game with only 5 bowling options. Are you willing to take the risk? What if one bowler has a bad day and leaks runs then you will have no bowling option and will have to continue to bowl him.

Other option, play Umar Akmal as a WK. I do not want to burden him with that added responsibility.

So, Malik is playing as an all-rounder not as a specialist batsman.

They have been playing Akmal as keeper off late but I agree he should be concentrating on batting.

I am willing to play with 5 specialist bowlers and if need arises farhat can chip in 3/4 overs.

[ElRaja]

this is gonna be more one sided than shoaib malik vs asad shafiq for the first SL test match.

[Ahson Afzal]

20:1 :)))

[SwingNSeam]

I think we should persist with him in the ODIs, just to see he might turn into a monster and start scoring runs and get his form back.

[Afridi_Fan]

I'm going to vote for a No because I want to see him play all the ODI games.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

I see some big names here.



View Poll Results: Should Malik Have Been Selected for the 2011 WC Probables/Squad?
Yes
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For the probables - Yes
For the squad - Yes
For the first team - No

For T20 - He should be part of the first team.
For ODI - reserve.
For Tests - Nowhere near

[kkmix]

I don't think any youngster gets this many chances. Malik shouldn't be treated differently.

[Strike!]

I don't think any youngster gets this many chances. Malik shouldn't be treated differently.

What else can you expect from a ********?

[Shayan]

T20 performances simply should not count at all.

Judge him solely based on how he does in tests/ODIs.

[saeed-sohail]

T20 performances simply should not count at all.

Judge him solely based on how he does in tests/ODIs.

Why? How should we pick the players for T20? Based on test performances.

[Watsupdoc]

Well he should be persisted with for the whole series and see how he performs.

[Free Hit]

persisting with him whole series!

[saeed-sohail]

Pakistani batsmen averages across all three formats in last couple of years.





Ordered by batting average (descending)


Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0
Misbah-ul-Haq 2009-2011 57 62 18 2133 102* 48.47 3991 53.44 1 19

Azhar Ali 2010-2011 17 32 4 1182 100 42.21 2988 39.55 1 11 3

Taufeeq Umar 2010-2011 13 23 1 831 236 37.77 1955 42.50 2 2

Younis Khan 2009-2011 49 51 5 1621 131* 35.23 2755 58.83 2 12

Umar Akmal 2009-2011 84 91 10 2825 129 34.87 3461 81.62 1 19

Mohammad Hafeez 2010-2011 66 74 6 2311 139* 33.98 3015 76.65 4 13

Salman Butt 2009-2010 29 40 1 1276 102 32.71 2137 59.70 1 9

Asad Shafiq 2010-2011 38 41 4 1118 83 30.21 1917 58.32 0 8

Adnan Akmal 2010-2011 11 10 2 230 44 28.75 388 59.27 0 0

Faisal Iqbal 2009-2010 3 6 0 170 67 28.33 427 39.81 0 1 0

Imran Farhat 2009-2011 30 42 2 1133 117* 28.32 2097 54.02 1 7

Kamran Akmal 2009-2011 53 61 3 1581 89 27.25 1902 83.12 0 12

Tanvir Ahmed 2010-2011 7 6 1 134 57 26.80 200 67.00 0 1

Mohammad Yousuf 2009-2010 23 31 0 807 89 26.03 1502 53.72 0 5

Ahmed Shehzad 2010-2011 19 19 1 466 115 25.88 575 81.04 2 1

Zulqarnain Haider 2010-2010 7 8 2 154 88 25.66 290 53.10 0

Abdul Razzaq 2009-2011 50 45 13 813 109* 25.40 767 105.99 1 1

Fawad Alam 2009-2010 25 25 3 557 64 25.31 746 74.66 0 3

Shahid Afridi 2009-2011 68 64 1 1392 124 22.09 1015 137.14 2 3

Khurram Manzoor 2009-2010 2 4 0 87 77 21.75 276 31.52 0 1

Sohail Tanvir 2009-2011 16 10 4 120 30 20.00 114 105.26 0 0

Khalid Latif 2009-2010 8 8 0 158 64 19.75 215 73.48 0 1 1

Hammad Azam 2011-2011 5 3 1 38 36 19.00 72 52.77 0 0

Imran Nazir 2009-2010 6 6 0 111 58 18.50 113 98.23 0 1

Shahzaib Hasan 2010-2010 9 9 0 139 50 15.44 171 81.28 0 1

Shoaib Malik 2009-2011 30 35 1 499 58 14.67 861 57.95 0 1

Naved-ul-Hasan 2009-2010 7 7 1 85 33 14.16 85 100.00 0 0

Mohammad Amir 2009-2010 29 35 7 396 73* 14.14 1108 35.74 0 1

[saeed-sohail]

8 votes for Malik. Some ppl deserve mediocrity I guess.

[UmarAkmals-fan]

never knew ANWAR had 8 diffrent accounts at PP

[IMMY69]

We don't need more then 6 bowling options!!!
Anymore would be ridiculous!!

As it stands we have Afridi (bowling allrounder) and Hafeez (batting allrounder)..
Add Gul, Cheema, Ajmal plus another (Junaid etc) and I don't see how Malik can be included in the side!!!

[Shayan]

Why? How should we pick the players for T20? Based on test performances.


Re-read my post.

With the thread title, you are suggesting that now, following this T20 game, Malik should be disposed of.

My point is that a player's performance in a T20 is completely irrelevant, it is not an accurate reflection of their skill, talent or form.

I agree that Malik should not be in the team, and did not deserve a recall. However, he's in the squad now, and his future selection should be based on his performance in any ODI he plays in this series, not the T20.

To underline my point, Malik took 2 wickets in 12 balls in today's game. Based on that, it could be argued that he deserves a spot in the team. We both know that's not true.

[Afridi_Fan]

8 votes for Malik. Some ppl deserve mediocrity I guess.

Some people have their reason which the others can not understand.

Oh as you belong to mature brigade so anyone who doesn't agrees with you deserve mediocrity? Okay, if that's how it works.

[Afridi_Fan]

We don't need more then 6 bowling options!!!
Anymore would be ridiculous!!

As it stands we have Afridi (bowling allrounder) and Hafeez (batting allrounder)..
Add Gul, Cheema, Ajmal plus another (Junaid etc) and I don't see how Malik can be included in the side!!!

Let's go with that.

You have potentially named 6 players. Lets see where the remaining 5 spots go. Farhat, YK, Misbah, Umar Akmal and Sarfraz.

Still can not see the place for youngstaaa beauty. :shafiq

[12cavalry]

Well he should be persisted with for the whole series and see how he performs.

So you're supporting both Sohail and Malik :danish

[IMMY69]

Let's go with that.

You have potentially named 6 players. Lets see where the remaining 5 spots go. Farhat, YK, Misbah, Umar Akmal and Sarfraz.

Still can not see the place for youngstaaa beauty. :shafiq

shafiq
hafeez
yk
umar ukmal
misbah
Hamada Azam / Razaq
afridi
gul
ajmal
junaid
cheema

alternatively have a different opener with Hafeez and have shafiq at number 3 with everyone else dropping one position.

[Shayan]

shafiq
hafeez
yk
umar ukmal
misbah
Hamada Azam / Razaq
afridi
gul
ajmal
junaid
cheema

alternatively have a different opener with Hafeez and have shafiq at number 3 with everyone else dropping one position.

Umar Akmal to keep? Is this a T20 team? Or an ODI team? If its a T20 team, what changes would you make for ODIs?


And if its an ODI team, do you not think we need a specialist keeper for that format?

[Osman]

absolutely not...the only reason he kept his place was because razzaq got injured

[W63L35]

Some people have their reason which the others can not understand.

Oh as you belong to mature brigade so anyone who doesn't agrees with you deserve mediocrity? Okay, if that's how it works.

Simple question AF..... Malik has failed in 36 consecutive international innings (except one 50). How many chances are reasonable number of chances before you drop Malik ... or any player for that matter?

Let's hear a mature answer....from any of the 12 people who voted for Malik!

[Hasnain_786]

I just clicked on the wrong one :facepalm: should be kicked out for the people like hammad,amin and any other youngsters out there

[saeed-sohail]

Problem is some ppl put players ahead of the team. When YK was failing to score in ODIs in 09/10 I clearly opposed his selection for the team.

Yousaf should have been in the side ahead of YK for the world cup. But some ppl find it hard that a player doesn't deserve a place after 35 failures.

[Hasnain_786]

I see some big names here.



View Poll Results: Should Malik Have Been Selected for the 2011 WC Probables/Squad?
Yes
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at names above :))) :))) :))) :)))

[octavian]

Problem is some ppl put players ahead of the team. When YK was failing to score in ODIs in 09/10 I clearly opposed his selection for the team.

Yousaf should have been in the side ahead of YK for the world cup. But some ppl find it hard that a player doesn't deserve a place after 35 failures.

As Ijaz Butt pointed out Malik is a master politician who used to pressurize the board from every political avenue possible for his inclusion in the team.

Malik absolutely should be thrown out for good ASAP.

[W63L35]

Simple question AF..... Malik has failed in 36 consecutive international innings (except one 50). How many chances are reasonable number of chances before you drop Malik ... or any player for that matter?

Let's hear a mature answer....from any of the 15 people who voted for Malik!

Hello..... anybody home??

What's with the dead silence?

Afridi_Fan or anybody from the 15 who voted for Malik in this poll?

I didn't think ... it was that difficult of a question? :)

[mithun_minhas]

Our Favorite Damadji deserves more chances :nehra

[Amjid Javed]

Has black zero voted in favour of Malik 16 times or have other morons also voted for him?

Malik should never have been recalled in 1st place and fact hes in the test sqaud ahead of more deserving batsmen is a real pathetic joke!

[saeed-sohail]

Has black zero voted in favour of Malik 16 times or have other morons also voted for him?

Malik should never have been recalled in 1st place and fact hes in the test sqaud ahead of more deserving batsmen is a real pathetic joke!

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[Watsupdoc]

So you're supporting both Sohail and Malik :danish

I'm supporting everyone in the squad :misbah

Once the series is over Malik and Tanvir (if they don't perform) can say good bye to that support :ibutt

[Amjid Javed]

abc_to_xyz, Afridi_Fan, Alamgeer, Arcturus, bilawal666, Free Hit, Hasnain_786, icecube4000, Minku, mnoman15, Osman, Shahzebayub, Sunny786, SunnyE, Watsupdoc, Zamee

Were all these users given I.Q and sanity tests before being allowed to post on PP :facepalm:

[Watsupdoc]

Were all these users given I.Q and sanity tests before being allowed to post on PP :facepalm:

No we weren't :asif

[Shahzebayub]

Were all these users given I.Q and sanity tests before being allowed to post on PP :facepalm:

oh bhat . A mouh sambal ka baat kar its pakpassion for cricket lover not for those persons joh kah fazol posts krtaya hain therefore i quit

[saeed-sohail]

oh bhat . A mouh sambal ka baat kar its pakpassion for cricket lover not for those persons joh kah fazol posts krtaya hain therefore i quit

Bhai sahab dont quit. Its all good fun dont take it seriously.

[W63L35]

oh bhat . A mouh sambal ka baat kar its pakpassion for cricket lover not for those persons joh kah fazol posts krtaya hain therefore i quit

Your signature... :P
Pyar ishq aur mohabbat



یار جی عشق میں تو لوگ بڑی مار کھاتے ھیں
تم اتنی جلدی بھاگ رھے ھو

;-)

[Shahzebayub]

Your signature... :P




یار جی عشق میں تو لوگ بڑی مار کھاتے ھیں
تم اتنی جلدی بھاگ رھے ھو

;-)

i not understanding what are you saying

[W63L35]

i not understanding what are you saying

You not read Urdu?

[Shahzebayub]

You not read Urdu?

urdu is not coming on my cell phon

[W63L35]

urdu is not coming on my cell phon
Then read it on your laptop/computer.

[w8in_4_0402]

people used to say nobody should be judged by there performance in pyjama cricket :yk without mentioning any names.

[w8in_4_0402]

although malik has been very very very dissapointing i would rather see him in the team than tanvir.

He should be replaced by Hammad if anyone.

[Shahzebayub]

But his comment is rubbish nd h also rubbish

[ahsan88]

Done, kapiche, finito. :akhtar

[AmmarAshraf]

He's been given enough chances now.

[Afridi_Fan]

Simple question AF..... Malik has failed in 36 consecutive international innings (except one 50). How many chances are reasonable number of chances before you drop Malik ... or any player for that matter?

Let's hear a mature answer....from any of the 12 people who voted for Malik!

1st thing 1st. I want neither Razzaq nor Malik in the side, I want Hammad Azam in the side as the all-rounder.

And why I want Malik to play the whole series because if he fails in this series then surely he should not be ever allowed to get back in the side. The failure in this series should be the final nail in the coffin for Malik.

But if Malik performs (Lets say 2 50plus scores and 6-7 wickets), and he regains his form then he deserves to be in the team.

That is my mature answer, if its not mature enough for someone then fine because I hate belonging to the mature group anyways. :afridi

[W63L35]

^^^
That still does not answer my question.....

My question was... can you give us a number of failures after which a player has to be dropped .. if 35 out of 36 in not large enough?

Doesn't look that tough of a question to me.

[Afridi_Fan]

I think the line was the answer, read again. I don't want either Malik or Razzaq in the side I want Hammad Azam.

See it now?

[saeed-sohail]

Dhstkos

[mithun_minhas]

Sania should have really married Umar Akmal. He seems to be the future of Pakistan.

[IMMY69]

1st thing 1st. I want neither Razzaq nor Malik in the side, I want Hammad Azam in the side as the all-rounder.

And why I want Malik to play the whole series because if he fails in this series then surely he should not be ever allowed to get back in the side. The failure in this series should be the final nail in the coffin for Malik.

But if Malik performs (Lets say 2 50plus scores and 6-7 wickets), and he regains his form then he deserves to be in the team.

That is my mature answer, if its not mature enough for someone then fine because I hate belonging to the mature group anyways. :afridi

I hear what you say BUT in a normal world a player like Malik would not be allowed anywhere near the team. The bottom line is that he hasn't performed for many many moons, pardon the pun..

He is in the side only be aide of his connections otherwise there is absolutely no other justification for it. His inclusion is at the expense of a younger, more deserving player.

If malik scores two 50's or even hundreds in the next few games is now irrelevent simply because his initial selection defys logic and sends out the wrong signal to upcoming players..

How many really talented players are dissuaded from trying for career because they don't have the right connections??

[W63L35]

I think the line was the answer, read again. I don't want either Malik or Razzaq in the side I want Hammad Azam.

See it now?

Kia yeh khula tazad nahi?

[Abdullah22]

Why is there even a poll for this, it should be obvious.

[umerz]

I think it is good enough now he isn't a world class player neither does he offer anything special hence we should concentrate on young players. better give chances to Shafiq, U Akmal, Umer Amin, Hammad Azam etc

[mastermind_quad]

Sania should have really married Umar Akmal. He seems to be the future of Pakistan.

Haha...:)))

Legend...:D

[insaftak]

and I want Zardari to be the president of Pakistan!

[Bullet Drive]

Yes, please go Malik. Go and NEVER come back.

[UmarAkmals-fan]

Sania should have really married Umar Akmal. He seems to be the future of Pakistan.

:))) epic ...or s malik should have married zardaris daughter ..:yk

[UmarAkmals-fan]

super mama ready onee toww three ..pa pa pa paan pa pa pa paan pa pa paan ..malik- la -usless ..usless -la-malik ..he-in team -because-sania -husband u ..kick-him u -before-la -too-late ..ok mama now tune change mama Why This Kolaveri Kolaveri Kolaveri

[Fireworks11]

Where is BZ?

[alberto]

most ppers are hypocrites as they wanted malik in the probables and now want to get rid of him.

[Markhor]

Pathetic player who is only in the team because of political backing. Awful player, even the tail-enders are more reliable batsmen.

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

Yes, this should be the end for Malik. Didnt really want him in the squad, tbh. He has been given too many chances and has proven hardly anything. If he could drastically improve [which I very much believe wont happen], then he should be persisted with. There's hardly any chance of that happening.

Hence, I believe, we should replace him with some young talent. Possibly Hammad Azam, who is hardworking and is generally a consistent player. Someone who can bat higher in the order, and perform consistently.

[Afridi_Fan]

Kia yeh khula tazad nahi?

Is Hammad in the squad? If yes tu ye waqai khula tazad hai. If not, tu phir kuch baatein samghe bhi jaatey hain. :sohail

[Looney]

28 trolls voted

[ShahidAfridi_rulez]

Don't even know why he got picked in the first place.

[Afridi_Fan]

28 trolls voted

:))

[saeed-sohail]

Insaftak voting yes? Kya ho gya apko?

[saeed-sohail]

Funny thing is some of these ppl wanted certain players dropped after one poor game in SL ODI series.

[Fireworks11]

Insftak has seen the light recently. :malik :afridi

[Muzy]

hes got political support by the ashiqi of his hometown he shouldn't have ever returned moon wapis jaye jaha moon ko hona chahiye yaha par moo **** kar kar moon nahi raheh gaa ... enough said

[chui_kadoo]

I see some big names here.



View Poll Results: Should Malik Have Been Selected for the 2011 WC Probables/Squad?
Yes
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I am not on that list. I knew he would fail continously. Should be dropped for a good while now and give others a chance.
He has been sitting in the passenger seat for the past 30 matches. I think he has got too cosy in that seat.

[saeed-sohail]

Hi Allah Blitz too was guilty of voting for Malik. Unbelievable ..

[insaftak]

Insaftak voting yes? Kya ho gya apko?

Insftak has seen the light recently. :malik :afridi

I also want zardari to be the president of Pakistan :D

[Black Zero]

Why? How should we pick the players for T20? Based on test performances.

yes :yk

[iHammad]

77% :)))

I am guilty of being on that initial list, but my opinion's about Shoaib Malik have changed :)

[cricmylife]

I would like to stay neutral on this issue but I guess staying neutral means support for Malik. We won the games we played against SriLanka while Malik was part of the team. I think this series (against Bangladesh) is a blessing for both Malik and team Pakistan as it provides one more opportunity to test Malik without jeopardizing Pakistan's winning chances.

So yes, One more series :) :moyo

[Hando]

Cant Bat , Cant bowl :facepalm:

Failed against Zimbabwe
Failed against Sri Lanka
Failed against Bangladesh T20

Why do we continuously play with 10 players?

[Hando]

P.S pls change the title to "What more does malik have to do to get kicket out"

[kkmix]

I've noted all those 40 people who still want Malik in the team.

[Afridi_Fan]

Okay, lets do it again. I hope this time some people will understand.

1- Mohammad Hafeez.

2- Imran Farhat.

3- Younis Khan/Asad Shafiq.

4- Misbah-Ul-Haq.

5- Umar Akmal.

6- All-Rounder (Hammad/Malik/Razzaq)

7- Shahid Afridi.

8- Sarfraz Ahmed.

9- Saeed Ajmal.

10- Umar Gul.

11- Aizaz Cheema.

Now if you want to play YK for Malik that will mean you will go in a game with only 5 bowling options. Are you willing to take the risk? What if one bowler has a bad day and leaks runs then you will have no bowling option and will have to continue to bowl him.

Other option, play Umar Akmal as a WK. I do not want to burden him with that added responsibility.

So, Malik is playing as an all-rounder not as a specialist batsman.

Knock Knock.

Point made.

[Afridi_Fan]

I've noted all those 40 people who still want Malik in the team.

I am one of them.

[1137moiz]

Good for Malik, he's bowled well MashaAllah

To be honest though with three quality spinners there's no use for Malik unless he performs with the bat. But while he's there it's nice that Malik's performing with ball and in field

[Amjid Javed]

Really dont understand why once again Asad has been left out for malik! Really poor move!

[AmmarAshraf]

Yes :23:

[Amjid Javed]

Lets see if our selectors have the balls to drop Malik after his latest collection of failures!

[cricwiz]

No, the team maanagement should NOT drop our super duper batsman Malik at any cost and play him in all the Test matches as a specialist batsman :23::23::23::23:

:runaway:

[Alam_dar]

We all know Malik has the Talent.

There are the following Choices that we have as "Batting All Rounder" (the 6th Bowling Option)

1. Razzaq
2. Hammad Azam
3. Malik

One of these 3 players have to play as 6th Bowling Option.

My opinion is to play with Hammad/Razzaq on fast bowling tracks, while introduce Malik at the spin friendly pitches.

What if Afridi or Hafeez or Razzaq/Hammad is injured?

There is only one replacement in this case, and that is Malik.

Good All Rounders are very valuable and we should not waste them.

[JibranAnsari]

That should be it for malik even if you are his die hard fan.

[cricwiz]

We all know Malik has the Talent.

There are the following Choices that we have as "Batting All Rounder" (the 6th Bowling Option)

1. Razzaq
2. Hammad Azam
3. Malik

One of these 3 players have to play as 6th Bowling Option.

My opinion is to play with Hammad/Razzaq on fast bowling tracks, while introduce Malik at the spin friendly pitches.

What if Afridi or Hafeez or Razzaq/Hammad is injured?

There is only one replacement in this case, and that is Malik.

Good All Rounders are very valuable and we should not waste them.

Pakistan is already lucky with 2 very good all-rounders in Afridi & Hafeez. For future, we should only be looking for new all-rounders (i.e. someone like Hammad Azam, Bilawal Bhatti who are good batting all-rounders).

No need to look and rely on *extremely talented* plus *extremely outdated* players like Malik...

[Alam_dar]

Pakistan is already lucky with 2 very good all-rounders in Afridi & Hafeez. For future, we should only be looking for new all-rounders (i.e. someone like Hammad Azam, Bilawal Bhatti who are good batting all-rounders).

No need to look and rely on *extremely talented* plus *extremely outdated* players like Malik...


You have not answered all of my arguments.

Afridi is our 4th Bowler
Hafeez is our 5th Bowler

Now question is, who should be our 6th Bowling Option?

We have very fragile batting line up. In ODIs, we must have a good batting all rounder like Malik.

You see, today Afridi is out of touch and Malik bowled much much better than Afridi.

Therefore, All Rounders are very valuable.

[cricwiz]

You have not answered all of my arguments.

Afridi is our 4th Bowler
Hafeez is our 5th Bowler

Now question is, who should be our 6th Bowling Option?

We have very fragile batting line up. In ODIs, we must have a good batting all rounder like Malik.

You see, today Afridi is out of touch and Malik bowled much much better than Afridi.

Therefore, All Rounders are very valuable.

Younis Khan, Imran Farhat & Umar Akmal all can bowl decently. In past we had Aamer Sohail, Ijaz Ahmed, Saleem Malik etc bowling for Pakistan regularly, as they used to slot in overs when required.

M Clarke, M Hussey do it for Australia regularly. Even Katich used to turn his arm over
Raina does it consitently for India... Even Kohli did it against England
Trott, Pieterseon do this for England

So many teams in the world play only 5 regular bowlers, and play 6 batsman, 1 WK and then 5 bowlers (in which 1-2 are all-rounders)...

[intothevoid]

Malik needs to go, period.

[Poison]

He's been crap this series but the pitches have also been crap ... he is so low on confidence it makes me feel bad to watch him try and bat. Shouldn't be thrown on the scrapheap just yet.

[cricwiz]

he's been crap this series but the pitches have also been crap ... He is so low on confidence it makes me feel bad to watch him try and bat. Shouldn't be thrown on the scrapheap just yet.

:69::69::69::69::69:

[Alamgeer]

He deserve more chances.He had been very good with the bat in past.Now it seems he has improved his bowling and focusing more on bowling.He is a handy player to have and would walk into any playing eleven of the world as a spinner alone.

[Poison]

:69::69::69::69::69:

:malik ... how can you hate this face?

[Arcturus]

Malik aur Sania dono ke career ki naiyya shaadi ke baad doob hi gayi hai

Must be cursing each other now...

[duostyle]

He deserve more chances.He had been very good with the bat in past.Now it seems he has improved his bowling and focusing more on bowling.He is a handy player to have and would walk into any playing eleven of the world as a spinner alone.

Yes. I truly believe he is the best spinner in the world currently. Ajmal chucks, Swann is overrated and the rankings are rigged by the Indians to hide the true prowess of our beloved Shoaib Malik.

[Riff]

Should that be it for Malik?

YKss2uYpih8

[Zaz]

He deserve more chances.He had been very good with the bat in past.Now it seems he has improved his bowling and focusing more on bowling.He is a handy player to have and would walk into any playing eleven of the world as a spinner alone.

Oh yes he picked up three tail end victims and suddenly hes a world class spin bowler now too :warne :)))

Yes lets just give him a perm spot in team bcos he may come good with the bat and once he retires we ll retire his position in the team in his honour and forever play with 10 men


Hang on arent we already doing that? (playing with 10 men)

[duostyle]

Oh yes he picked up three tail end victims and suddenly hes a world class spin bowler now too :warne :)))

Yes lets just give him a perm spot in team bcos he may come good with the bat and once he retires we ll retire his position in the team in his honour and forever play with 10 men


Hang on arent we already doing that? (playing with 10 men)

Please stop. You're clearly biased and very emotional, or else you wouldn't be undermining a player who would walk into any team just as a spinner alone.

[chui_kadoo]

Mark my words those 3 wickets at the end have saved Malik's career.
He will definitly now play in the England series.
Seems like Malik had the last laugh

[*sallu*]

If this isn't it I don't know what is

30, forget 3 Bangladesh tailenders are not enough to cover his 5 run average since comeback

[pakcricketfan]

He deserve more chances.He had been very good with the bat in past.Now it seems he has improved his bowling and focusing more on bowling.He is a handy player to have and would walk into any playing eleven of the world as a spinner alone.

I hope you're not serious. :shahzaib

Yes. I truly believe he is the best spinner in the world currently. Ajmal chucks, Swann is overrated and the rankings are rigged by the Indians to hide the true prowess of our beloved Shoaib Malik.

Oh yes he picked up three tail end victims and suddenly hes a world class spin bowler now too :warne :)))

Yes lets just give him a perm spot in team bcos he may come good with the bat and once he retires we ll retire his position in the team in his honour and forever play with 10 men


Hang on arent we already doing that? (playing with 10 men)

Please stop. You're clearly biased and very emotional, or else you wouldn't be undermining a player who would walk into any team just as a spinner alone.

:))) :))) :)))

[1137moiz]

Malik has actually bowled quite well (though v tailenders) but he's seriously unrequired. The ball he bowled to the Bangladesh tail (the last 2 wickets) were lovely though. I don't really think that Malik is needed at all however, that effort with the willow has been horrible against poorish attacks

[sam]

Malik will get selected for the next tour and the one after too. Misbah is quite intent on having him in the squad.

[Blitz]

Hi Allah Blitz too was guilty of voting for Malik. Unbelievable ..

We all make mistakes :w63


Moment of weakness. The spot-fixing saga had ravaged me :(



But seriously, there were names flying around like Fawad Alam, Shahzaib, Umar Amin.


It was more the case of chosing the best piece of crap.


I should have known, Malik wasn't even that :facepalm:

[W63L35]

We all make mistakes :w63


oooo paaeeee .... which mistake?

[W63L35]

I would like to stay neutral on this issue but I guess staying neutral means support for Malik. We won the games we played against SriLanka while Malik was part of the team. I think this series (against Bangladesh) is a blessing for both Malik and team Pakistan as it provides one more opportunity to test Malik without jeopardizing Pakistan's winning chances.

So yes, One more series :) :moyo

Still neutral .... and still one more series? :)

17 & 0 ?

[Blitz]

oooo paaeeee .... which mistake?

Fantasy cricket? :P