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Aly
10th December 2011, 16:55
First thing first, please forgive me if you find the question too simplistic to start a thread for or that it should've been started in the language forum but the thing is that it has irritated me so much that I couldn't help asking it here!

So since when the urdu word 'bahar' ( outside, out etc ) became 'bahir' ?

I ask this because more and more people in Pakistan have started pronouncing 'bahar' as 'bahir' while in most of the Urdu speaking areas like karachi as well as in many parts of India, it is still pronounced as 'bahar'.
in fact I even remember Salman Khan taking Mickey out of Veena Malik for pronouncing the word as 'bahir' in the last season of bigger boss 5

Now ironically speaking one can't even think of the word 'bahar' as being mispronounced by the karachites/ Urdu speaking community since those who are aware of their culture know it very well that if anything they have this irritating tendency of unnecessarily putting 'i' / ' e' ( zayr) sound in words I.e 'tabil' for table, 'cabil' for kable, 'sevin' for seven, 'iskool' for school, etc

Damn, I am confused, please help me solve this irritating bahiiiiiiiiir sound!

AZ
10th December 2011, 16:58
I do believe its baahar. :jm

Law
10th December 2011, 17:08
bahar is correct.

Law
10th December 2011, 17:09
People who are new to urdu or money often say Bahiiir :yk

Pk-zindabaad
10th December 2011, 17:12
^^ all above is true, also bahar is outside in PAshto i believe

AZ
10th December 2011, 17:23
Haha I used to say patao instead of batao...still can't shake the habit :amir

Abdullah22
10th December 2011, 17:28
bahar meaning "spring" or "outside"

Law
10th December 2011, 17:31
bahar meaning "spring" or "outside"

baahar = outside

bahaar = spring

spaceshot
10th December 2011, 21:38
Same dilemma as 'Kya' Vs 'Kia' :)

Abdullah22
10th December 2011, 21:57
okay I noticed that I say Bahir my whole family say bahir hec I've never come across anyone saying bahar. But it's not too much of a i it's more like baher.

AZ
10th December 2011, 21:59
Same dilemma as 'Kya' Vs 'Kia' :)

its Kya, Kia is a car manufacturer.

kkmix
10th December 2011, 22:11
Always said bahar.

"bahar nikal"

RWAC
10th December 2011, 22:57
Same dilemma as 'Kya' Vs 'Kia' :)

Should be "Kya" for "what", since "ki(y)a" is to denote action.

RWAC
10th December 2011, 22:59
First thing first, please forgive me if you find the question too simplistic to start a thread for or that it should've been started in the language forum but the thing is that it has irritated me so much that I couldn't help asking it here!

So since when the urdu word 'bahar' ( outside, out etc ) became 'bahir' ?

I ask this because more and more people in Pakistan have started pronouncing 'bahar' as 'bahir' while in most of the Urdu speaking areas like karachi as well as in many parts of India, it is still pronounced as 'bahar'.
in fact I even remember Salman Khan taking Mickey out of Veena Malik for pronouncing the word as 'bahir' in the last season of bigger boss 5

Now ironically speaking one can't even think of the word 'bahar' as being mispronounced by the karachites/ Urdu speaking community since those who are aware of their culture know it very well that if anything they have this irritating tendency of unnecessarily putting 'i' / ' e' ( zayr) sound in words I.e 'tabil' for table, 'cabil' for kable, 'sevin' for seven, 'iskool' for school, etc

Damn, I am confused, please help me solve this irritating bahiiiiiiiiir sound!

Asal mein "bahar" hota hai.

Lo ab hal kar di tumhari mushkil, ab apne dimaag se yeh tension bahiirr nikal phainko :P

PakPrince
11th December 2011, 01:31
bahar

Looney
11th December 2011, 07:41
i say bahir :murali

spaceshot
11th December 2011, 17:23
its Kya, Kia is a car manufacturer.

I dont have a dilemma about that.
Few of my pakistani frnds write Kia and always stress upon it being kia.

pakcricketfan
11th December 2011, 18:07
I say baahar. Always.

Cover Drive
11th December 2011, 18:20
I think I say both :20:

Legend Killer
11th December 2011, 20:15
I believe Bahar is the correct word

Looney
12th December 2011, 00:18
its Kya, Kia is a car manufacturer.

Kya khayal hai

Kia - tum ne apna kaam kia ? ( keeya)

ElRaja
12th December 2011, 10:55
i say baahir, guess ive been wrong all this time.

srh
21st December 2011, 20:18
bahar is correct.

adnanmir
28th March 2017, 11:08
during conversations i say bahar. however on reading text i pronounce it as bahir. dont know why

alized
8th October 2018, 14:59
Bahaar = Urdu. Most Karachiwalay
Bahir= Punjabi accent.