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yk
1st January 2006, 22:18
Aleem Dar is the umpire along with Billy Bowden

COME ON!!!! Aleem Dar knock Ricky's Brains out!!!!!! :19:

DotCom
1st January 2006, 22:19
match is delayed .. sucks ..overnight rain ..

Usman
1st January 2006, 22:22
Hope Aleem Dar is a lot less lenient with the harassing that Warne tries to inflict than Asad Rauf, and if Warne continues the way he has, I hope Aleem can at least get him a fine!

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 00:51
South Africa have won the toss and will be batting.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:12
first ball swung like a banana ... SA will be all out for 234 .. 60 overs

Amir
2nd January 2006, 01:13
Can't believe they dropped Boje

Fish
2nd January 2006, 01:22
Dar turns down a straight forward nick in the first over. Typical cheating umpire.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 01:24
first ball swung like a banana ... SA will be all out for 234 .. 60 overs

do u really think SA can score at a run rate of 3.90. :13:

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:26
lol, come on ... they will pretend its a one day ..

but now that I see the ball seaming a bit .. I take it back .. 230 all out in 79 overs

Punter dropped a sitter .. regulation catch .. unlike him ...

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 01:26
I just pray that when ponting comes to bat he should get out on a duck or under 5.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:26
Dar turns down a straight forward nick in the first over. Typical cheating umpire.

DId they show a snicko meter ?

Gilchrist barely appealed ..

dont call umpires Cheat .. what reason does Dar have to cheat ? And especially why would he care since its AU vs SA

Here is the CricInfo line about that delivery:

0.5 McGrath to de Villiers, no run, good ball pitched outside off
stump, swinging in, de Villiers on the front-foot defends, misses
the bat, hits the pad and to the keeper, loud appeal, turned down
by Umpire Aleem Dar.

Fish
2nd January 2006, 01:39
DId they show a snicko meter ?

Gilchrist barely appealed ..

dont call umpires Cheat .. what reason does Dar have to cheat ? And especially why would he care since its AU vs SA

Ever since Pakistan whinged about the umpiring in Australia Dar and Rauf have deliberately robbed the Australian bowlers, it was particularly evident in the last test when Rauf gave Hodge and Jaques out to decisions that were balatent cheating. Australia should ask the ICC to not have these biased cheats umpiring in australia.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:42
Ever since Pakistan whinged about the umpiring in Australia Dar and Rauf have deliberately robbed the Australian bowlers, it was particularly evident in the last test when Rauf gave Hodge and Jaques out to decisions that were balatent cheating. Australia should ask the ICC to not have these biased cheats umpiring in australia.

how about when Rauf gave Prince out to Warne ? Was Rauf REVERSE CHEATING as Botha would say ?

you are ridiculous with your cheating accusations. Only players cheat .. Umpires get paid for their job, whether they make a mistake or not .. so if they do make a mistake, its not cheating, its LIFE...

Have you umpired in front of 20000 fans.. in a loud stadium ? I have umpired over 30 matches (40 overs), hold a certificate from Umpire Mohammed Baksh of the WICB, and have trouble hearing SNICKS on a ground full of WIND ..

ITS CALLED LIFE, REALITY .. Mistakes happen .. dont call Umpires Cheats b/c they didnt make a decision in YOUR favor ..

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:47
Bowden just turned down a LBW appeal .. he must be related to that **** cheat according to FISH ...

Fish
2nd January 2006, 01:49
Rauf tried to give the Australians out cheaply when they were setting the target but Hayden and Symonds knew they had to score quickly or be robbed by Rauf. Rauf knew Australia were going to win so he gave Prince out when it didnt matter to make it look like he just makes mistakes all the time. Three huge big mistakes like that in a short time from an umpire tells you something.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:52
Rauf tried to give the Australians out cheaply when they were setting the target but Hayden and Symonds knew they had to score quickly or be robbed by Rauf. Rauf knew Australia were going to win so he gave Prince out when it didnt matter to make it look like he just makes mistakes all the time. Three huge big mistakes like that in a short time from an umpire tells you something.

It tells me he is not consistent, not a good umpire .. but it doesnt make him a cheat ..

how about Daryl Hair warning Kaneria everytime he bowls .. in WI, and in PK .. all the tests before that, he was never warned ..

how about Hair watching Salman butt run across the middle .. and taking away a run of his .. but every other batsmen did it, and HAir wasnt even looking ..

Does that make Hair a CHEAT ? or just a bad umpire .. there is a big difference ..

Criticize the Man, dont insult his Integrity ..

Fish
2nd January 2006, 01:55
Dotcom as you seemed to have picked up I'm an Aussie and have read what most posters here have said about the aussie umpires and just repeated them about the Pakistan umpires. I actually think Dar and Rauf are reasonably umpires just like the Aussie ones and all the others.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 01:57
35/1

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 01:58
Dotcom as you seemed to have picked up I'm an Aussie and have read what most posters here have said about the aussie umpires and just repeated them about the Pakistan umpires. I actually think Dar and Rauf are reasonably umpires just like the Aussie ones and all the others.

I didnt call any umpire a Cheat .. But I do say there are some that are not upto the PAR of ICC umpires ..

Rauf is new .. but doesnt seem to be ..
Dar is gaining experience and integrity
Taufel is excellent ..
Hair .. makes mistakes like most

just a few .. but in the prior posts you stated the word CHEAT .. which is a direct insult .. I agree with the fact that many are not upto par .. but they are not cheats .. not even Hair ..

now .. there were some Indian and West Indian umpires that I dont want to say too much about ... :13:

Amir
2nd January 2006, 02:02
Dotcom as you seemed to have picked up I'm an Aussie and have read what most posters here have said about the aussie umpires and just repeated them about the Pakistan umpires. I actually think Dar and Rauf are reasonably umpires just like the Aussie ones and all the others.

There is a difference between Hair and Dar. Dar's mistakes are honest mistakes which could go either way, Hair's are just pure stupidity.

Fish
2nd January 2006, 02:09
There is a difference between Hair and Dar. Dar's mistakes are honest mistakes which could go either way, Hair's are just pure stupidity.

Are they both not the same in the end. All you are trying to say is Dar is honest and Hair is not. I could say the oppisite and Hair makes honest mistakes and Dar's are just pure stupidity.

Fish
2nd January 2006, 02:11
I didnt call any umpire a Cheat .. But I do say there are some that are not upto the PAR of ICC umpires ..

Rauf is new .. but doesnt seem to be ..
Dar is gaining experience and integrity
Taufel is excellent ..
Hair .. makes mistakes like most

just a few .. but in the prior posts you stated the word CHEAT .. which is a direct insult .. I agree with the fact that many are not upto par .. but they are not cheats .. not even Hair ..

now .. there were some Indian and West Indian umpires that I dont want to say too much about ... :13:

I know you didnt call any umpire a cheat thats why I told you why I said what I said.

Amir
2nd January 2006, 02:16
Are they both not the same in the end. All you are trying to say is Dar is honest and Hair is not. I could say the oppisite and Hair makes honest mistakes and Dar's are just pure stupidity.

Yes I believe Hair is dishonest. I think your other umpires do a good job like PArker, Taufel and what not. Just Hair is a complete idiot. I have watched alot of games with his umpiring and he seems very impartial against PAkistan.

That is my honest opinion and what I truly believe. YOu are calling Dar and Rauf cheats out of spite to get back at us fans who think Hair is a cheat.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 02:23
SA 51/1
AB de Villiers c Gilchrist b Lee 2 runs

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 02:32
I want ponting and kallis to get out on 0 or under 5.

IceMan
2nd January 2006, 02:33
I wished Hair had warned Inzamam for running on the pitch at Faisalabad. Inzamam would have busted his fat A** in return. He is a consummate ****.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 02:51
SA 69/2
HH Gibbs b McGrath 27

Lee 24/1
McGrath 20/1

Fish
2nd January 2006, 03:02
Dar just turned down a LBW that was out then chatted Lee for his follow through.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 03:06
Dar just turned down a LBW that was out then chatted Lee for his follow through.
Here you go again with your BS opinion .. I am getting sick and tired of your comments abour DAR..

What about BOWDEN .. the THICK EDGE of SMITH .. that he turned down .. how come you didnt MENTION that one ..

LBW is a total JUDGEMENT decision .. EDGE to kEEPER .. the whole world saw and heard it ..

Fish
2nd January 2006, 03:14
Here you go again with your BS opinion .. I am getting sick and tired of your comments abour DAR..

What about BOWDEN .. the THICK EDGE of SMITH .. that he turned down .. how come you didnt MENTION that one ..

LBW is a total JUDGEMENT decision .. EDGE to kEEPER .. the whole world saw and heard it ..

Err it wasnt my opinion hawkeye showed the ball hitting leg stump, are you watching the game.

Because so many people here allways go on about Australia getting all the 50/50 decisions but never aknowledge when a decision goes against Australia. Like the Prince decision it was bought up here ad-nausum but never a mention of the decisions that went against Australia.

It was a big issue when Australia got some decisions their way but people here refuse to accept the same amount go against them.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 03:18
[QUOTE=Fish]Err it wasnt my opinion hawkeye showed the ball hitting leg stump, are you watching the game.
QUOTE]

Does Darr have hawkeye implemented in his brain ? Does any umpire ?

I agree about the double standard . but why are you making it a point to single out Dar ? Point out the mistakes of each umpire .. not the one you happen to have a disliking of.

I hope a **** isnt on an Aussie board making fun of Taufel or something .. that is really low ..

Amir
2nd January 2006, 03:19
But that is the thing Fish! The same amount does not go against them when playing at home. It goes with them, just like Gilchirst has never got LBW.

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 03:21
Yeah give them some of their own medicine Fish, see how they like it

Amir
2nd January 2006, 03:24
Yeah Kurash is right! Damn that Dar, he just gave a decision to Australia! Smith LBW! What the hell...the PCB gave him specific directions to give no LBWs.

Here is the deal, just like Indians complain about Bucknor(Oh you know you do) we complain about Hair. Both are very bad umpires when it comes to our games.

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 03:26
It was the plumbest LB that has ever been. Even blind as a bat useless retard racist jerk Dar had to give it.

Amir
2nd January 2006, 03:30
Just because India could never produce a umpire as class as Dar, no need to hate(Venkat was your best to offer...and a sad offer it was).

Fish
2nd January 2006, 03:31
But that is the thing Fish! The same amount does not go against them when playing at home. It goes with them, just like Gilchirst has never got LBW.

Gilchrist has been given out more times than Sehwag in test matches Amir.

Gilchrist 11 LBWs
Sehwag 10 LBWS

Sort of makes your comments look like pure stupidity.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 03:31
95/3 kallis is the next one to go. Plz get him out.

Fish
2nd January 2006, 03:32
Just because India could never produce a umpire as class as Dar, no need to hate(Venkat was your best to offer...and a sad offer it was).

Couldent agree more. Indian supporters are the worst in the world when it comes to umpires.

Amir
2nd January 2006, 03:32
Gilchrist has been given out more times than Sehwag in test matches Amir.

Gilchrist 11 LBWs
Sehwag 10 LBWS

Sort of makes your comments look like pure stupidity.

I guess you missed the part where I said "at home"

Amir
2nd January 2006, 03:32
Couldent agree more. Indian supporters are the worst in the world when it comes to umpires.

Glad we could agree on something :D

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 03:33
It was the plumbest LB that has ever been. Even blind as a bat useless retard racist jerk Dar had to give it.

If I was a mod or webmaster, you would be officially BANNED in my books ..

If you were in my neighborhood, you would be running for cover.

If you were in the same room .. you would not be able to type ever again ...

:16:

Empirebuiltolast
2nd January 2006, 03:39
Its Now 102 For 3.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 03:40
first ball swung like a banana ... SA will be all out for 234 .. 60 overs


to get what u wanted SA need RR 3.90, and they have 3.11

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 03:42
to get what u wanted SA need RR 3.90, and they have 3.11
oh well .. looks like I lost ..

:6:

Fish
2nd January 2006, 03:43
I guess you missed the part where I said "at home"


AC Gilchrist lbw b Collymore 44 brisbane this year.V WI
+AC Gilchrist lbw b Flintoff 94 Melbourne this year V World X!
I guess you missed what I was saying.

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 03:44
I do think Dar is a good umpire btw...

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 03:50
There is a problem with SA that they cant score fast in test matches. All of them have there SR in 40s to 50s.
I guess everyone know why kallis SR is 42 cause he goes for his average.

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 04:20
SA 111/3 in 38 overs

hasan316
2nd January 2006, 05:05
kallis is on 37 Aus should get him out. I hate him he is the most boring batsman in any form of cricket.

SA 150/3

Empirebuiltolast
2nd January 2006, 06:10
he is great

madaboutlfc
2nd January 2006, 06:32
Hair is cheating ****.. the warning for Butt was a disgrace.. i dont know whether its racism or that goiter but this fella doesnt deserve to officiate..

ataullah
2nd January 2006, 06:52
230-3 stumps

Easa
2nd January 2006, 08:09
South Africa had a really good day. They're real lucky they wont have to bat last on this Sydney spinner.

Shoaib Akhtar's Fan
2nd January 2006, 08:21
A good day for SA. I hope Kallis gets a big 100 2morrow and SA register a victory in this test 2 level da series.

Amjid Javed
2nd January 2006, 09:46
Very good day for S.A they need to push on and get 500 here atleast.

yk
2nd January 2006, 13:22
Dotcom as you seemed to have picked up I'm an Aussie and have read what most posters here have said about the aussie umpires and just repeated them about the Pakistan umpires. I actually think Dar and Rauf are reasonably umpires just like the Aussie ones and all the others.


I thought u were a Bangladeshi, well thats what ure name suggests.

Rob H
2nd January 2006, 13:27
i'm really suprised Kallis got runs. He usually struggles against good teams and bashes the minnows. Good to see Ashwell getting runs too. He is a good young player who the Proteas should stick with.

Hash
2nd January 2006, 13:30
230 runs in one day? How slowly are SA going?

yk
2nd January 2006, 13:46
230 runs in one day? How slowly are SA going?

it was only 74 overs in the day, there was a rain delay in the morning

230/74 = 3.11 runs per over.

Hash
2nd January 2006, 13:49
ah I see.

3.11 runs per over is fine but not brilliant. Overall this series has been fairly slow going for both teams (bar the period in the last test when Symonds fluked some runs).

Amjid Javed
2nd January 2006, 14:17
ah I see.

3.11 runs per over is fine but not brilliant. Overall this series has been fairly slow going for both teams (bar the period in the last test when Symonds fluked some runs).

what do you expect when kallis the snail is batting most of the day :P

Rob H
2nd January 2006, 14:32
ah I see.

3.11 runs per over is fine but not brilliant. Overall this series has been fairly slow going for both teams (bar the period in the last test when Symonds fluked some runs).
obviously not watched by you then

Amjid Javed
2nd January 2006, 17:13
One person whose not fired this series with ball is glenn mcgrath. Hes got just 6 wickets @ almost 40 apiece. Id be shocked if he doesnt put in a match changing spell in either this inns or the 2nd inns.

Amjid Javed
2nd January 2006, 17:15
ah I see.

3.11 runs per over is fine but not brilliant. Overall this series has been fairly slow going for both teams (bar the period in the last test when Symonds fluked some runs).

if someone can fluke runs by hitting ball gun barrell straight 20 yards into crowd over and over again then he must be lucky ;-) :))

TurkishCricketFan
2nd January 2006, 19:41
I am neither Pakistani nor Aussie and i have to say that Hair is a very bad umpire. Or at least he had a terrible series Pakistan v England.

Amjid Javed
2nd January 2006, 19:45
I am neither Pakistani nor Aussie and i have to say that Hair is a very bad umpire. Or at least he had a terrible series Pakistan v England.

just a random guess but are you turkish? :P

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 22:36
BOWDEN just turned down a lbw appeal for Lee .. commentator said it was absolutely PLUM, 9 times out of 10 that is out ..

Where are the umpire bashers now ? oh I forgot . Bowden isnt pakistani ..

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 22:40
Bowden is one of the worst umpires. Was voted so by the Aussie team. Are you happy, knob?

z10
2nd January 2006, 22:43
is it me or is greig going senile?

and it was definately not plumb, it was close and there was always the chance that it may go down the leg side and Bowden took the right decision

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 22:44
is it me or is greig going senile?

and it was definately not plumb, it was close and there was always the chance that it may go down the leg side and Bowden took the right decision

He's pathological about not giving aussies lbw's..

z10
2nd January 2006, 22:46
He's pathological about not giving aussies lbw's..


hes obsessive

really is quite painful to hear him say 'well that looked plumb to me...' after every time Australia appeal for an lbw

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 22:47
hes obsessive

really is quite painful to hear him say 'well that looked plumb to me...' after every time Australia appeal for an lbw

I was referring to Bowden, about NOT giving Aussies LB's

z10
2nd January 2006, 22:48
I was referring to Bowden, about NOT giving Aussies LB's


you agree with Greig?

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 22:50
you agree with Greig?

It was close. But it was straightening down the line, off the seam and would have hit leg and middle.. Mark Taylor said 19 times out of 20 it would have have been givin.

z10
2nd January 2006, 22:56
i heard mark taylor

the problem was the ball pitched fairly close to the batsman, so the umpire couldnt really tell the extent of the straightening

i admit it looked close but was by no means plumb

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 22:58
BOWDEN just turned down a lbw appeal for Lee .. commentator said it was absolutely PLUM, 9 times out of 10 that is out ..

Where are the umpire bashers now ? oh I forgot . Bowden isnt pakistani ..

Hey, where'd you go? :))

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 23:28
Hey, where'd you go? :))

lol, had to go to the baseball batting cages, and play cricket .. to get my frustration out .. hehe, just kidding ..

but yeah .. that wasnt plumb, was close .. but why are the commentators kissing Aus' behind like this .. its ridiculous ..

Oxy
2nd January 2006, 23:32
Not that I place much faith in hawkeye...but when Grieg says 'thats plumb-it's hitting middle or middle and leg'...even after Hawkeye shows its clipping 'leg'...you know that Grieg has lost it.

He must have asked for 7-8 replays!

Must say-have really enjoyed Brett Lee's spell esp at Kallis. Some beauties!

Kurash
2nd January 2006, 23:33
Aussies been shafted by umpires in this match, as comms are Aussies they are naturally unhappy bout it.

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 23:36
Brett Lee is really bowling well lately .. Kudos to him ..

Conditions and wicket anyone ? for those who say wicket has nothing to do with pace b/c its measured out of hand ? ... please explain why LEE is bowling faster in the 3rd test, than the 1st .. Fatigue seems to be working backwards here ..his avg pace now is 4 kmp more than his avg pace in 1st test ..

Oxy
2nd January 2006, 23:37
Aussies been shafted by umpires in this match, as comms are Aussies they are naturally unhappy bout it.

:O :O :O If thats the case-then ICC Match Ref will leave NO stone unturned to restore parity (and a ;-) bit extra on top)

Also-what is Tony Grieg? Born in SA...played for Eng...supports Aussies!

Oxy
2nd January 2006, 23:39
Brett Lee is really bowling well lately .. Kudos to him ..

Conditions and wicket anyone ? for those who say wicket has nothing to do with pace b/c its measured out of hand ? ... please explain why LEE is bowling faster in the 3rd test, than the 1st .. Fatigue seems to be working backwards here ..his avg pace now is 4 kmp more than his avg pace in 1st test ..

Well Kallis has dropped anchor (poor show really....not to be expected of a top 3 batsman in the world)...and Lee is fired up...also hit him a couple of times

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 23:41
Yeah Kallis hasnt scored off like 30+ deliveries .. is it ? that is a shame .. Prince is going to LAP him .. lol

Oxy
2nd January 2006, 23:47
98 runs off 257 balls. (210 dot balls)

I said to my missus .. 'Ill be up in a few balls time (assuming Kallis would get his ton)...an hour later and 80 balls in the 90's later...Im still here!

Jaque Kallis is messing up my marriage!!!

I'm only staying to watch how he celebrates. Batting boring is great if you are the only one that does it!!! He should be leading the way, guiding Prince to his ton also!

z10
2nd January 2006, 23:48
Kallis really does love grinding the opposition into the ground

DotCom
2nd January 2006, 23:59
I dont consider it boring .. he is trying to defend his wicket .. and prolong the game .. doing the right thing .. but too much is too much ..

now that he has his hundred .. look at hime score so freely ..

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 00:08
I dont consider it boring .. he is trying to defend his wicket .. and prolong the game .. doing the right thing .. but too much is too much ..

now that he has his hundred .. look at hime score so freely ..

Why do you think he's doing the right thing, esp when they need to WIN to draw the series? Added to the fact the pitch looks a belter now.

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 00:09
$h!T kallis abhe tak out nahie howa. he has an SR of 40.59. boring player

Uzi
3rd January 2006, 00:12
Congratulations to Ashwell Prince on his century.

Go on and make the Aussies toil even more.

shabbu1
3rd January 2006, 00:16
kallis gone

DotCom
3rd January 2006, 00:18
kallis gone

trying to score ... should have kept to blocking ...

:))

Rob H
3rd January 2006, 00:23
Well played Ashwell. I'm so happy he's got a ton. He is a great young talent.

Usman
3rd January 2006, 00:25
The thing I hate about Kallis is that, even though he scores runs, his pace is sometimes far to slow for the team to push on even in test matches! A century at a strile rate of 40 is just not good enough these days in my opinon. I mean then theres players like Afridi and by his standards this type of thing is unheard of because he considers a patient innings being 146 of 191 as he stated in his interview in another thread!

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 00:25
:))) kallis gone hahahaha :))) :)) :108: I am so Happy.

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 00:28
SA 306/4 from 106.3 overs RR 2.90. this is why they $UCK.

Tupac
3rd January 2006, 00:34
why this attitude? the man gritted it out, but his country in a great position...sure he takes his time to score, but this ton is superb...consider the attack, the conditions on the first day...some people have the nerve to say he's too slow..christ..it's test cricket, you got plenty of time, and he's using it

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 00:38
Lara made 227 vs the same team with a SR of 75. Nobody plays as slow as kallis. I guess even saleem malik used to score faster than him.

Amir
3rd January 2006, 00:54
Bowden is one of the worst umpires. Was voted so by the Aussie team. Are you happy, knob?

Evidence?

Amir
3rd January 2006, 00:55
why this attitude? the man gritted it out, but his country in a great position...sure he takes his time to score, but this ton is superb...consider the attack, the conditions on the first day...some people have the nerve to say he's too slow..christ..it's test cricket, you got plenty of time, and he's using it

Exactly, I take a ton anyday than being bundled out for less than 300 again. Now SA ina dominant position and just need to get 450+. With the track turning on the last day, we should see Botha come into play.

Like it is not selfish considering it is ONLY DAY ONE! I would take a century any day over a quick 30 setting the team up with nothing.

Pathan007
3rd January 2006, 00:58
Kallis has an overall strike of his test career 42. which is danm slow. even Ian Chappal today on the commentary was criticizing Kallis for his slow pace inning. he said that to Kallis wining the match for his country is 2nd priority and his own runs 1st. he also said that is the reason Kallis is not a winning batsman/player for his country.

Amir
3rd January 2006, 01:04
Of course he is not a winning batsmen for his career, if you disclude his hundreds against West Indies and England.

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 01:22
Evidence?

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,17489617-23212,00.html

Rob H
3rd January 2006, 01:24
Kallis has an overall strike of his test career 42. which is danm slow. even Ian Chappal today on the commentary was criticizing Kallis for his slow pace inning. he said that to Kallis wining the match for his country is 2nd priority and his own runs 1st. he also said that is the reason Kallis is not a winning batsman/player for his country.
It's always been like that. In the 5th test v England last year in a test where they needed to win he was so selfish and was making slow runs for himself instead of trying to level the series. I hate him.

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 01:26
It's always been like that. In the 5th test v England last year in a test where they needed to win he was so selfish and was making slow runs for himself instead of trying to level the series. I hate him.

i guess kallis is the most hated player in cricket.

DotCom
3rd January 2006, 02:06
Bowden turns down Shane .. shane has a talk with him ..
next over
ball RIPS and turns a mile .. PRince raises shoulders .. hits outside off .. no shot offered
GIVEN OUT
HAWKeye shows missing OFF .. didnt TURN enough ..

but BOWDEN gives one of the HARDER LBWs to give .. where batsmen leaves the ball, and is hit outside off with the ball turning a mile .. but not mile and half .. which was needed..

BAD DECISION .. influenced by AUSSIES..

Toony™®
3rd January 2006, 02:07
Prince LBW to Warne...bumped hard by Bowden..Ball ripped off the pitch from a dark patch
done by not playing a shot...hawkeye says would of missed offstump by a distance!

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 02:10
Bowden is incompetant. How he could give that out after turning down others that were much closer?!

DotCom
3rd January 2006, 02:13
Bowden is incompetant. How he could give that out after turning down others that were much closer?!


In the words of FISH .. is Bowden a CHEAT ? :30:

It all makes sense .. Bowden is trying to help the Aussies here ..
First he doesnt give Kallis out b/c he knows Kallis will bat SLOWLY .. :))

then he gives Prince out .. POOR PRince .. out twice to BAD Decisions .. I feel for him and Marto from the Ashes series... :9:

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 02:15
AG Prince lbw b Warne 119 of 271 balls SR 43.93 too slow.

SA 347/5

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 02:18
In the words of FISH .. is Bowden a CHEAT ? :30:

It all makes sense .. Bowden is trying to help the Aussies here ..
First he doesnt give Kallis out b/c he knows Kallis will bat SLOWLY .. :))

then he gives Prince out .. POOR PRince .. out twice to BAD Decisions .. I feel for him and Marto from the Ashes series... :9:

I am not like you I don't pretend to know the umpires motivations. All i know is he's incompetant

DotCom
3rd January 2006, 02:27
I am not like you I don't pretend to know the umpires motivations. All i know is he's incompetant

EXCUSE mE ..

It was your buddy FISH that you were DEFENDING when he called DAR a cheat ... do I need to go back a few pages in this THREAD to show u ?

understand the SARCASM in my thread before making any stupid claims that I know umpires motivations ..

hasan316
3rd January 2006, 02:46
SA 359/6 in 131 overs
MV Boucher c Gilchrist b MacGill 5

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 02:48
Bowden turns down Shane .. shane has a talk with him ..
next over
ball RIPS and turns a mile .. PRince raises shoulders .. hits outside off .. no shot offered
GIVEN OUT
HAWKeye shows missing OFF .. didnt TURN enough ..

but BOWDEN gives one of the HARDER LBWs to give .. where batsmen leaves the ball, and is hit outside off with the ball turning a mile .. but not mile and half .. which was needed..

BAD DECISION .. influenced by AUSSIES..

You're implying Bowden wanted to give one in favour of teh Aussies to get even. Thats implying you know his motivation as he raised the fingre. And sarcasm, no sarcasm in this post...

DotCom
3rd January 2006, 02:52
You're implying Bowden wanted to give one in favour of teh Aussies to get even. Thats implying you know his motivation as he raised the fingre. And sarcasm, no sarcasm in this post...

well maybe that post should have been in the Ponting and Aussie umpire issue Thread ..

either way .. umpires/aussies .. nor you nor I will ever win ..

thats why I prefer EA Sports Cricket to real cricket .. thats where I can say cancel and start over ..

Kurash
3rd January 2006, 02:52
Hehe :)

z10
3rd January 2006, 03:08
382/6

nearing the 400 mark

Amir
3rd January 2006, 05:29
Langy bowls both Hayden and Langer!

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 06:21
South Africa 451/9d v Australia 54/3

S.A batted like snails today and no surprise that kallis was the ring leader. Smith did declare at right time interms of giving his bowlers a nice small session to bowl @ aussies.

those 3 quick wickets mean S.A are well on top.

ataullah
3rd January 2006, 06:27
Ponting needs a big 1. If ponting goes early tomorrow africa could be well on their way

mulan
3rd January 2006, 07:49
Finally SA makes it worth the while to get up so very early....

Great going by the guys. Hope they can do something with this slight ascendency they've gained by taking those three wickets. A drawn series down-under will be perfect...

That will make the Aussies tour here later a whole lot more interesting....

Raz
3rd January 2006, 07:50
So Mulan the loss of Ntini hasnt really hurt SA. They have the Aussies in some trouble with 3 wickets down and only 54 on the board!!

mulan
3rd January 2006, 07:55
Yeah. I thought losing Ntini would be a major blow. Langeveldt has not been a new-ball bowler in my humble opinion, and neither is Nella...

But having the Aus 3 down with a "depleted" attack is some achievement. The only thing we are worried about, is Smith going on the defence...

I really hope he's a whole lot more pro-active in this game, and attack more. But he may not feel able to, as Botha is very much a rookie, and he may well try and protect him.

Raz
3rd January 2006, 08:01
Yeah. I thought losing Ntini would be a major blow. Langeveldt has not been a new-ball bowler in my humble opinion, and neither is Nella...

But having the Aus 3 down with a "depleted" attack is some achievement. The only thing we are worried about, is Smith going on the defence...

I really hope he's a whole lot more pro-active in this game, and attack more. But he may not feel able to, as Botha is very much a rookie, and he may well try and protect him.

Just hope that they dont let the Aussies off the hook like Pakistan did in Perth over a year ago when they had Australia at 78/5 but then they went on to make 300+!!!!!!!!!!!

Raz
3rd January 2006, 08:02
Also are you worried theres no front line spinner as well. I mean its not as if the spinners have been effective so far, but it does limit the options available to Smith.

Easa
3rd January 2006, 08:29
I think bowling the Aussies out last innings will be tough for the Saffies. Sydney is always a spinner-oriented wicket. Its going to have to take a superb effort by the pacers if South Africa are to win this match.

mulan
3rd January 2006, 08:36
Just hope that they dont let the Aussies off the hook like Pakistan did in Perth over a year ago when they had Australia at 78/5 but then they went on to make 300+!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah...I remember that like it was yesterday....That sinking feeling only recently dissappeared...

mulan
3rd January 2006, 08:44
Also are you worried theres no front line spinner as well. I mean its not as if the spinners have been effective so far, but it does limit the options available to Smith.

True. But SA has never had an abundance of spinners. Botha only started bowling spin a season ago, and without Ntini, the attack looks kinda toothless.

SA need to give their spinners more "air-time" . The problem is, all our local captains seems to think a spinner need to take a wicket every over. And if he doesn't, they take him off. Goodness! Even Shane Warne only takes a wicket every 9 to 10 overs in tests....

So, we have guys like Thandi Tshabalala, who are really good prospects, but they're not "used" right. Hope they can rectify this situation. Soon!

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 20:59
A lot depends on pointing and hussey here. Symonds will have to play a different type of inns for australia and gilly must come to the party. If S.A can bowl Australia out before tea then its game on!

Pathan007
3rd January 2006, 21:28
if Saffies get Punter and Hussey b4 Oz make 100 runs then SA have a good chance to make them follow on. otherwise it's gonna be pretty hard.

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 22:28
Its been raining all morning in sydney. covers are coming off and it looks very over cast and could help S.A swing bowlers.

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 23:00
day 3 starts

nel bowling to hussey

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 23:12
Pointing looks quite airy fairy in his stroke play this morning.

Aus 61/3

Amjid Javed
3rd January 2006, 23:14
Hussey off mark with majestic straight drive for 4.

hasan316
4th January 2006, 01:08
ponting is on 69*. He should get out now. I hate him.
lunch 3rd day Aus 124/3
Australia trail by 327 runs with 7 wickets remaining

DotCom
4th January 2006, 01:29
Did anyone see the LBW appeal on Hussey ... It was PLUMB .. yet Darr :13: didnt give it .. Smith was furious .. then they showed Smith being GIVEN OUT LBW by Darr... on a VERY similar Delivery .. they even showed the 2 bowlers side by side, the 2 deliveries side by side .. and Darr gave Smith OUT, but HUSSEY not OUT

Another IN CONSISTENT call by Darr..

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 02:10
hussey gone!!!!!

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 02:11
...batp pad...bothas first test wkt and what a wkt it is!!

hasan316
4th January 2006, 02:20
Aus 187/4

Amir
4th January 2006, 02:23
Nels last over was just class. Ponting rounding another 100, Inzi's record in danger(highest test score in your 100th test)

Amir
4th January 2006, 02:33
Ponting gets his 100! 1st Aussie to do it in his 100th test, 6th to do it after Inzi :D

Pathan007
4th January 2006, 02:40
ponting was plumb on 95 and was given not out by Dar.

sm332
4th January 2006, 03:02
Dar having a really poor game .. thats the 4th poor decision he has missed another two LBW's on Symonds.

nafajafam
4th January 2006, 03:31
dar gives symonds lbw. that would have missed leg.

nafajafam
4th January 2006, 03:32
warne gone.

hasan316
4th January 2006, 04:25
Aus 243/7 Australia trail by 208 runs with 3 wickets remaining

Nel 3/52

Langeveldt 2/81

mulan
4th January 2006, 04:41
263/7

Is this one going to be the knock that gets Gilchrist his form back?

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 04:43
lee gone!! 263/8

!!

Big Mac
4th January 2006, 05:12
Anybody else think Botha's action looks dodgy?

mulan
4th January 2006, 05:38
McGill Gone!

Only Gilly and McGrath left. Gilchrist's 50 coming at a good time for his team.

322/9.....129 run lead for SA still

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 05:42
turned out to be a great game so far!

gilchrist provides when most needed, great player. Mulan u watching the game?

hasan316
4th January 2006, 05:47
Nell bowled pretty good today.

mulan
4th January 2006, 05:52
turned out to be a great game so far!

gilchrist provides when most needed, great player. Mulan u watching the game?
Can't... :( Do not have Pay-per-view at work.... But I try to get up early in the mornings to watch, before coming to work. Around 02h00...

See why I'm so dilly....

Gilchrist's got to go....He's singele-handedly ruining SA's chances here....

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 06:00
what a comeback by aus!! see they always do it no matter what

:14:

btw mulan..GET BACK TO WORK :16:

mulan
4th January 2006, 06:06
Eh eh...

This time of the year not much to do....Many people around here still on leave...Peaceful and quiet....

SA's lead less than 100 now. Partnership of 33 in 32 balls. Man this is bad for SA.

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 06:11
nel gets him all OVER 359 all out!!! caught behind off hook shot gone for 86!!
well done nel!!

ataullah
4th January 2006, 06:22
Africa need to take advantage of this lead now. set minimum 320 plus

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 06:32
de vilers gone brett lee lbw:(:(

ataullah
4th January 2006, 06:34
de villiers gone!!!!!

mulan
4th January 2006, 06:34
Aw....come on Aleem.....You didn't give Gilly.....why do you give AB....

HAFRIDI
4th January 2006, 06:35
ponting having a nice whinge to umpires? why o why

stumps btw

edit ..i think

ataullah
4th January 2006, 06:36
Aw....come on Aleem.....You didn't give Gilly.....why do you give AB....

dont worry AFrica still on top. We just need a few big partnerships

mulan
4th January 2006, 06:38
Yep...And Kallis will come through for us tomorrow....

Amjid Javed
4th January 2006, 06:39
South Africa 451/9d & 4/1
Australia 359

South Africa lead by 96 runs

Looks like 2 cracking days left in this match!

Amir
4th January 2006, 06:48
Yep...And Kallis will come through for us tomorrow....
If you had Hashim Amla, he would blaze to 194 and replicate his idol :P

mulan
4th January 2006, 06:57
Man, that's one guy I wanna see back in the SA team.

There's the future captain of the Proteas for you.

z10
4th January 2006, 23:04
4/1

not a good start, lost De Villiers early

lead of 96

z10
4th January 2006, 23:09
and its got worse

6/2

DotCom
4th January 2006, 23:12
Mcgrath gets good bounce, ball was a bit short .. hit Smith above knee roll .. smith is like 6 and half feet tall .. NOT OUT .. going over ..

but BOWDEN raises the finger ...

Fish
4th January 2006, 23:22
The umpires are simply raising the finger when the ball hits in line as shown by the Symonds and Smith dismissals.

DotCom
4th January 2006, 23:28
The umpires are simply raising the finger when the ball hits in line as shown by the Symonds and Smith dismissals.

but not always just b/c its in line .. they are WAY TOO inconsistent ..

Hussey was lbw .. but given not out .. and SMith was quite unhappy .. cuz he got given OUT on the same exact delivery .. they even showed the two deliveries side by side, bowlers side by side during delivery ..

overall .. I have never paid as much attention to umpiring as now .. and I am seeing that these so called ELITE umpires aren't so ELITE ..

Benefit of doubt should be given to the BATSMEN .. not bowler ..
I dont see that in this series ..

Fish
4th January 2006, 23:48
Having played cricket for at least 30 years I have never come across a umpire that doesnt make mistakes. From juniors to tests (I havent played tests) its allways the same, you are relying on the umpires opinion.

DotCom
4th January 2006, 23:53
Having played cricket for at least 30 years I have never come across a umpire that doesnt make mistakes. From juniors to tests (I havent played tests) its allways the same, you are relying on the umpires opinion.
Agreed .. its an Opinion that they make .. so we are at their mercy .. and we hope their opinion is unbiased..

when they are faced with making an opinion .. the safe call is not out when it comes to LBW .. since the rule is for the benefit of the batsmen ..

but we are seeing Opinions which are giving the benefit of the doubt to the Bowler ..

a good example was the LBW of Prince to Warne .. ball pitched literally 3 foot outside off and ripped back .. he shouldered arms .. benefit should have led to NOT OUT decision ..

DotCom
4th January 2006, 23:56
Kallis being criticized by commentators for not scoring... or atleast rotating strike to Gibbs who is playing SUPERB ..

Kallis can atleast take a single here or there .. but he is simply blocking .. and when he plays a stroke. .. he mistimes it ..

SA need atleast 150-200 more runs ASAP ...quickly ..

Gibbs dropped ..by Warney

Raz
5th January 2006, 00:04
Difficult chance to his left, perhaps Gilly should have gone for it.

Pathan007
5th January 2006, 00:53
Kallis is really effed up player. playing sooooooooooooo selfishly. i'm sure if Mulan ever gets an opportunity she would kill'em :D. wouldn't u Mulan?

hasan316
5th January 2006, 02:10
Rain has come and players are running off
Early lunch has been called now
SA 62/2 South Africa lead by 157 runs with 8 wickets remaining

DotCom
5th January 2006, 02:34
Gibbs starts it off with an edge through the vacant slip cordon .. atleast he is trying to score .. cant wait for Kallis to make the bowlers look good ..

all SA needs is another 150 runs .. take a lead of 300 .. but they need time to bowl out AUS .. they wont do it in 1 day .. they need to bowl before the end of today ..

HAFRIDI
5th January 2006, 03:08
why the **** did it have to rain????????!!!!!!!! arghh!!

94/3 rain stopped play!

DotCom
5th January 2006, 03:14
Kallis a bit selfish .. should have ran to other end.. and sacrificed his wicket for Gibbs .. who misses out on a deserved century chance .. and now Kallis and Prince will play some more tuk tuk ..

Boucher and Pollock will be wasted here ..

hasan316
5th January 2006, 03:26
Kallis a bit selfish .. should have ran to other end.. and sacrificed his wicket for Gibbs .. who misses out on a deserved century chance .. and now Kallis and Prince will play some more tuk tuk ..

Boucher and Pollock will be wasted here ..

what do u mean by a bit selfish. He would never sacrifice his wicket for anyone. I am pretty sore that he has never ever walked in his life.

DotCom
5th January 2006, 03:30
definitely selfish .. didnt want to lose his wicket .. TEAM needed Gibbs more than Kallis in this situation ..

pivotal run out .. may lead to AUS winning the match .. if SA can only muster a 250 run lead ...

enjoying highlights right now .. rain rain go away . come back when PK is astray .. !!

hasan316
5th January 2006, 03:31
I hate Kallis.

DotCom
5th January 2006, 03:35
The rain in northern PK maybe a blessing in disguise .. first 2 matches are Draws .. then the 3rd Test in Karachi .. all to play for ... PK wins on the back of Afridi's first TRIPLE century ... 310 (1 more than Sehwag) off 150 balls .. CARNAGE !!

Amir
5th January 2006, 03:47
definitely selfish .. didnt want to lose his wicket .. TEAM needed Gibbs more than Kallis in this situation ..

.. !!

How can you say that? OH yeah the team needs him more considering I am currently one of the best batsmen in the world...I better run myself out! He is not a tailender!

DotCom
5th January 2006, 03:54
How can you say that? OH yeah the team needs him more considering I am currently one of the best batsmen in the world...I better run myself out! He is not a tailender!

The situation required what Kallis couldnt achieve.. SA need to win .. not Draw ..

SA need atleast 300 to declare .. and try to bowl out AUS ..

SA only need 150 more to get a 300 run lead .. but dont have ALL DAY .. they need to bowl at AUS tonite to try and get some wickets..

Kallis was struggling.. his elbow hurts, he wont be in the ODIS, and is batting as if he is playing for a draw .. it was obvious after the break he was told to score faster .. but only managed one shot of the middle of his bat .. the pull stroke for four ..

His experience is nothing .. compared to what Gibbs was doing at the MOMENT ..

Pathan007
5th January 2006, 04:00
The situation required what Kallis couldnt achieve.. SA need to win .. not Draw ..

SA need atleast 300 to declare .. and try to bowl out AUS ..

SA only need 150 more to get a 300 run lead .. but dont have ALL DAY .. they need to bowl at AUS tonite to try and get some wickets..

Kallis was struggling.. his elbow hurts, he wont be in the ODIS, and is batting as if he is playing for a draw .. it was obvious after the break he was told to score faster .. but only managed one shot of the middle of his bat .. the pull stroke for four ..

His experience is nothing .. compared to what Gibbs was doing at the MOMENT ..spot on :19:

Big Mac
5th January 2006, 04:06
Kallis is such a spanner.

Amir
5th January 2006, 04:40
The situation required what Kallis couldnt achieve.. SA need to win .. not Draw ..

SA need atleast 300 to declare .. and try to bowl out AUS ..

SA only need 150 more to get a 300 run lead .. but dont have ALL DAY .. they need to bowl at AUS tonite to try and get some wickets..

Kallis was struggling.. his elbow hurts, he wont be in the ODIS, and is batting as if he is playing for a draw .. it was obvious after the break he was told to score faster .. but only managed one shot of the middle of his bat .. the pull stroke for four ..

His experience is nothing .. compared to what Gibbs was doing at the MOMENT ..

But next ball Gibbs could have been bowled playing a rash stroke? You don't know these things and you can't just rate yourself to run out. That is a very negative mindset and that is when you lose.

Kallis is a talented player and he is one of the best batsmen in the world for a reason. Even if he is "selfish" he is still doing one hell of a job making runs against every opposition in every condition. He has the ability to play at run a ball(IE watch England ODI series that happened in jan 2005). I think alot of you are writing him off because of his natural game.

mulan
5th January 2006, 05:12
Kallis is not a good caller...If he bats with players like De Villiers, Gibbs, Prince, Boucher, a run out is always on...

Anyhow, I can't see SA levelling things here. Too much time lost because of the rain and some poor umpiring judgments...

mulan
5th January 2006, 05:31
Stumps then at 94/3.

Look like the Aussies will take a 1-0 lead coming to SA for the next 3 later this month.

UJ
5th January 2006, 10:47
The rain has been so annoying. If we didn't have so many disruptions, Australia could be chasing 350 in about 110 overs or so. SAF will probably bat for a bit tomorrow and then look to bowl Aus out in 2 sessions. That is, if we dont get anymore disruptions.

Long_Live_Pakistan
5th January 2006, 11:08
Stumps then at 94/3.

Look like the Aussies will take a 1-0 lead coming to SA for the next 3 later this month.

well when they do, make sure you do all that stuff that you 've been through this series.

how many more series aussies can do it. i mean to stay on No1!!!!!!
they are really going downhill

mulan
5th January 2006, 11:31
Interesting....

See, I think SA went over to Aussie land with a weak team. A couple of very key players went with, or recovering from injuries....We lost Ntini, and threw rookie Botha in at the deep end.

SA's doing better than even the most die-hard saffie fan around here hoped. The Aussies would like us to believe that they are still the team they've been for the last couple of years....But I don't think so. More and more international teams are beginning to beat them at their own game.

Perhaps because they don't have that "unbeatable" tag around them anymore?

UJ
5th January 2006, 12:03
Interesting....

See, I think SA went over to Aussie land with a weak team. A couple of very key players went with, or recovering from injuries....We lost Ntini, and threw rookie Botha in at the deep end.

SA's doing better than even the most die-hard saffie fan around here hoped. The Aussies would like us to believe that they are still the team they've been for the last couple of years....But I don't think so. More and more international teams are beginning to beat them at their own game.

Perhaps because they don't have that "unbeatable" tag around them anymore?

I agree with you Mulan. Injuries have hampered SAF in this series. Even in yesterdays play, Nel appeared to have a slight limp as he was bowling and got taken out of the attack, although i dont think its serious.

But saying that, wouldn't it just be great to see SAF tie the series in Sydney where the two spinners were suppose to run all over the South Africans.

mulan
5th January 2006, 12:19
True. All and sundry said SA's best chance would be the first test. And that they'll be woefully outplayed in the next 2, ESPECIALLY at the SCG....

Well, apart form last week, the Proteas have stood up to just about everything the Aussies could throw at them, and even dished it out themselves, back at the Aus. This whole 3rd test the Proteas have been on top all the way.

Perhaps that's why Ponting and his boys have resorted to "sledging" the umps, more than the players....

UJ
5th January 2006, 12:28
Yeh, it doesn't take much for Ponting and Co. to start their sledging. Btw, what are your thoughts on Gibbs runout? When i saw it live I thought Kallis had left him high and dry. But looking at the replays there might not have been a run. Either way, it was a shame to see him go. He played some really good shots, especially through cover- hes just so strong there.

mulan
5th January 2006, 12:43
Yep....Deffo Gibbs is one naturally talented, very fluent, effortless player, with just about all the shots in the book. But his cover drives are my favourites.

Yes, that run-out. I was listening to it on the radio and my initial thoughts too was that Kallis was at fault. (Jakes is not the best caller in the team). But the comms did say that there really wasn't a run on and I took their word on it.

I reckon Gibbs wanted to get to the other end badly. We all know Kallis takes forever to get to 20....30....40. But once he gets there, he's tough to dislodge. It's just that SA needed quick runs, with the weather and time against them at that stage.

Gibbs was scoring splendiferously by then, while Kallis dragged himself to 8 runs in about 40 odd balls, I think. So he probably thought the best thing to do was take as much of the bowling as possible...

UJ
5th January 2006, 12:52
Gibbs was definately not impressed when he got dismissed. Probably gave 3-4 looks towards to Kallis whilst walking off. To add to the drama, Rain stopped play moments after so Kallis would have had to confront Gibbs in the change rooms. My prediction for tomorrow: SAf will work a lead and hopefully give themsleves about 60-70 overs to get Aus out. Their chances are slim, with weather likely to intervene tomorrow as well. But this is test cricket and anything can happen. For Australia trying to save the match, Ponting will be the key. He showed in the Ashes by batting out day 5 with his 156 i think to force the game to a draw.

mulan
5th January 2006, 13:03
SA missed way too many chances this series... I have NEVER before seen a worst fielding performance by a Protea team (post apartheid).

Yes, catches win matches...And the saffies let themselves down in the field. And their supporters.

Well UJ, you were watching the match right? Some of my saffie colleagues were burning at the umpires today. For procrastinating things instead of letting the play go on. It seems like 1. Play started 45 mins later. 2. Even after the rain stopped, they delayed in getting the players on. 3. Even match ref Chris Broad was perplexed by why the umps didn't get the game going after the rain stopped.

Of course I wasn't watching, so, what's your opinion. Were Dar and Bowden taking things a little too laid-back. Do you agree with the comms that today was a bad showcase for test cricket? Because of the umps...

UJ
5th January 2006, 13:16
Definitely Mulan. For any fan it was one of the most frustrating things when the conditions were perfect for cricket:
a) The covers were off
b) the super sopper had done its round and there was almost no moisture AT ALL on the field.
c) Light had actually improved.

Now this was at about 2:10 local time. Play should have started at 2:15 at the absolute latest. Instead we were treated to umps Dar and Bowden walking out to the centre almost waiting for rain or a detoriation of light. I think it was Simon O Donnell who was also quite angry at the situation and blamed this on the regulations in cricket.

As for a bad showcase in test cricket, i do believe that this situation didn't help test cricket today. It just amazes me that when conditions are perfect for test cricket, that the players are forced to sit in the change rooms instead of being out in the centre and doing their job. The situation today could well mean the difference between a tied test series or a win to the Aussies.

mulan
5th January 2006, 13:28
I think the ICC must adopt a "The show must go on" attitude, if they want test cricket to survive. Right now, the game of cricket is shooting itself in the foot with these ridiculous "marble-clad" rules...

Were the umps trying to prove something?
That they're in control of the game and humbug with the rest?
It's a sad day when at the end of the day, there's more talk about the umpires, than about the play on the field.

And what's this I hear about Bowden and Dar walking around the boundary ropes giving out autographs? ARE THEY SERIOUS?

z10
5th January 2006, 13:29
a drawn test for me

Easa
5th January 2006, 16:01
Same hear unless South Africa promote Pollock or Boucher and then put in a very inspired performance.

ZM
5th January 2006, 16:33
omgggggggggggg kallis 14 off 47, thats disgraceful to say the least in a match they are trying to win :O
ill be honest, i thought that kallis' hundred was brilliant and thought ppl here were moaning over nothing abt his strike rate
but 14 off 47 :O thats truly selfish :9:

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 18:04
S.A say if there is 97 overs play on final day they will go for it. If thats case i recon graham smith is praying that kallis gets out early or someone runs him out.

S.A are 1-0 down they may aswell try to level series and if they lose 2-0 so be it. No difference in 1-0 or 2-0 as the series will be aussies!

waqaskhan
5th January 2006, 18:18
I have read on cricinfo.com that McGrath was reprimanded for dissent against Gibbs. Warne droped Gibbs in the slips and after that he hit two fours off McGrath to which he showed some gesture. does anyone have any video clip of that?

Hash
5th January 2006, 18:23
South Africa don't have the guts to go for the win. Plus they simply don't have the ability to score quickly which is what they will have to do. Kallis doesn't seem to understand that there is a time and a place for his pathetic 14 from 7756 balls and this certainly isn't it. It will be a draw even if 97 overs are bowled.

I will be very surprised if anything else happens. Will be impressed too.

Hash
5th January 2006, 18:24
I have read on cricinfo.com that McGrath was reprimanded for dissent against Gibbs. Warne droped Gibbs in the slips and after that he hit two fours off McGrath to which he showed some gesture. does anyone have any video clip of that?

yep, another example of double standards by the ICC!

Shoaib Akhtar swears and gets a one test ban (vs SA in 2003). Danish Kaneria swears and loses his entire match fee (vs Aus in 2004/5). McGrath swears and gets a warning! Fantastic!

Rob H
5th January 2006, 18:25
omgggggggggggg kallis 14 off 47, thats disgraceful to say the least in a match they are trying to win :O
ill be honest, i thought that kallis' hundred was brilliant and thought ppl here were moaning over nothing abt his strike rate
but 14 off 47 :O thats truly selfish :9:
It's called playing yourself in against the best bowling attack in the world. You go out playing shots you can get skittled over and let Australia in. Just wait for tomorrow

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 18:26
I think if 97 overs (which i doubt) are played then S.A should looked to bat agressively for 10/5 overs max. They might aswell try to get up to 260-70 and just go for broke.

Fessal
5th January 2006, 21:47
Looks set to be an interesting exciting last day. I think all results are still possible on the 5th day.

ZM
5th January 2006, 22:13
It's called playing yourself in against the best bowling attack in the world. You go out playing shots you can get skittled over and let Australia in. Just wait for tomorrow

it was all or broke for south africa, they might aswell have gone for it(everyone was except kallis :9: ), even if they get a good lead now aussies will probs bat for a draw, so valuable time wasted by kallis!!!

Uzi
5th January 2006, 22:23
it was all or broke for south africa, they might aswell have gone for it(everyone was except kallis :9: ), even if they get a good lead now aussies will probs bat for a draw, so valuable time wasted by kallis!!!

Kallis is the most boring player in the world of cricket.

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:00
Aus 152/5

kallis still batting like a snail, pure shameful stuff!

152/5 (36) --> lead 244 (83 overs left in days play)

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:01
Boucher out stumped. thank god he was trying to be agressive!

Gooner
5th January 2006, 23:03
If Austraila can get the rest of the South Africans out with the lead 300 less, im sure they could rap up this game with ease.

Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar
5th January 2006, 23:03
Kallis being selfish as usual. plans to go back unbeaten for the average. the team can go to hell.

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:07
Kallis continues to block this is truely shameful! pathetic even.

lead up to 248! id declare at 270-80 and just go for broke.

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:08
Kallis accidentally plays an attacking shot and gets 4!

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:11
pollock trying to play agressor, kallis trying to get a not out.

lead up to 256.

DotCom
5th January 2006, 23:17
Once Kallis get his avg, he will start playing attacking strokes, and GET out .. simple ..

but IF Pollock gets out first, then KALLIS will REMAIN not out ..

lets see how many Boos he gets when he gets to 50

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:21
Pollock smashes 4 then 6,

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:23
pollock 17 off 17 balls

kallis 49 from 94

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:24
2,4 from pollock now superb stuff...

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:26
50 off 96

selfishness personified!

Amjid Javed
5th January 2006, 23:27
S.A declare.

Australia target 287 from 76 overs

hasan316
5th January 2006, 23:35
Aus won this game I tell you

DotCom
5th January 2006, 23:37
IF AUS win this match it will be a great FEAT .. will certainly show how SUPERIOR they are .. but if SA can get a few quick wickets.. then AUS will quickly look to defend and DRAW .. this is where it will get tricky .. Can SA appply enough pressure and take 10 wickets in 2 sessions ?

hasan316
6th January 2006, 00:54
Aus 31/1
Australia require another 256 runs with 9 wickets and 64.0 overs remaining

hasan316
6th January 2006, 02:28
Aus 135/1
Hayden 53 of 83 balls
ponting 56 of 55 balls

pakistani pride
6th January 2006, 02:31
aus will win this one !

hasan316
6th January 2006, 02:36
yeah mate the game is over

HAFRIDI
6th January 2006, 02:56
aus have got this in the bag! ponting on course for his second 100 of the game in his 100th test

will he be thfirst to do this or has sum1 else recorder this feat before?

Big Mac
6th January 2006, 03:02
If he gets to his hundred he'll be the first to score 2 centuries in their hundredth test

hasan316
6th January 2006, 03:05
I hate ponting and kallis so much kya batayoon. cant stand them

HAFRIDI
6th January 2006, 03:10
why hate on ponting? one of the best batsman of modern day cricket!

kallis has lost it for Saffies, ugly player to watch

DotCom
6th January 2006, 03:23
Kudos to Smith for trying .. but his "best" player ran out the attacking Gibbs, then played for his own 50 ..

Kallis could have upped the tempo .. and helped SA get maybe 310+ then perhaps there may have been a mental thing about chasing 300+

but with the way AUS is batting .. they would chase down anything ..

hasan316
6th January 2006, 03:45
Aus 196/1
Australia require another 91 runs with 9 wickets and 34.3 overs remaining

pakistani pride
6th January 2006, 03:48
not smiths fault he did the right thing

kallis = idiot !

hasan316
6th January 2006, 03:49
not smiths fault he did the right thing

kallis = idiot !


kallis = idiot you got that rite

mulan
6th January 2006, 06:50
Australia win by 8 wickets. Take the series 2-0. Three to be played in SA in a month or two.

This scoreline suggests an Aussie dominance, but it's far from that. I predicted the Aus would not have things their own way, despite SA's weaker bowling attack. And it's only because of some awfully poor missed chances in the field that SA didn't win the second test. (and a couple of dubious umpiring decisions?)

And a VERY sporting declaration in this third.... (and the weather and some "interesting" umpire decisions)

SA need some pacier wickets at home. Newlands, Centurion and the Wanderers will produce those...Hope Ntini is fit.

Baron
6th January 2006, 08:27
Australia win by 8 wickets. Take the series 2-0. Three to be played in SA in a month or two.

This scoreline suggests an Aussie dominance, but it's far from that. I predicted the Aus would not have things their own way, despite SA's weaker bowling attack. And it's only because of some awfully poor missed chances in the field that SA didn't win the second test. (and a couple of dubious umpiring decisions?)

And a VERY sporting declaration in this third.... (and the weather and some "interesting" umpire decisions)

SA need some pacier wickets at home. Newlands, Centurion and the Wanderers will produce those...Hope Ntini is fit.

What SA need to do is work on there one dimensional bowling attack. They seems to be far too pacer relient. I mean, its not like they are the west Indies of old. People like Nel are good but his vein popping antics make him a better bowler than he really is, and pollocks over the hill too. Where on earth is there spinner?

Thank goodness that we have such a fantastic varied bowling attack. Lets see how the Indians cope against us :D

Easa
6th January 2006, 10:04
Saffies best spinner is Botha. Now he gets called.

Amjid Javed
6th January 2006, 17:33
Congrats aussies on superb win. super stuff from pointing in both inns and the series as a whole. seems haydens 1 bad year is a distant memory now.

smith should be applauded for trying to level series, kallis as per usual was a disgrace!

Amjid Javed
6th January 2006, 18:12
wow mcgrath took just 8 wkts @ 40 apiece. when was the last time he had such a bad series with a ball?