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Dr Khan
13th February 2012, 15:29
Even when the whole batting has flopped, why ppers single out YK only. he did score 70 odd in the last game and is much better than many in the ODI team. Then why pick on him only?????:yk

Inswinger
13th February 2012, 15:30
If you have a look around the match thread then you'd see that the entire batting lineup is being blamed equally.

Inziquicksingle
13th February 2012, 15:30
Because he is our senior most batsman with over 200 ODIs and is a constant let down.

/thread.

ninjafirstslip
13th February 2012, 15:31
farhat got bashed alot more.

Pakhtoon_Rules
13th February 2012, 15:31
Dr sahab

Its not only Younis Khan, if you look at the cricket section of PP, all of them are targeted lol
#justcheckfirstpageonpp

saeed-sohail
13th February 2012, 15:31
Because youngster beauties hit 6s.

Geordie Ahmed
13th February 2012, 15:31
All these threads man, people need to chill out and let the match finish, then they can slit their wrists

doctordamor
13th February 2012, 15:31
at 275 ODI with 33 avg, YK should realize he sucks and retire from ODI, good test player awful ODI player

Inziquicksingle
13th February 2012, 15:33
Because youngster beauties hit 6s.

Bro please stop being blinded by fan-boyism. You are a sensible poster.

He is an amazing Test player. 6 centuries in 240 ODIs is POOOOOOOOOOOOOR. average of 32 is pathetic for someone who's supposed to be the backbone of the team.

jy1970us
13th February 2012, 15:34
because he has been sucking for far too long than any other player in the history of Pakistan ODIs.

IMMY69
13th February 2012, 15:35
at 275 ODI with 33 avg, YK should realize he sucks and retire from ODI, good test player awful ODI player

Numpty alert!

AdeelSabih
13th February 2012, 15:35
Have all respect of Younis Khan but he is such a minnow basher. Played 236 matches with only 6 centuries. Averaging 33 in post 2000 ODI era. Averaging 29 against top 7..

doctordamor
13th February 2012, 15:36
Numpty alert!

sorry meant 235 ODI

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/43652.html

Dr Khan
13th February 2012, 15:36
All points valid, but who will replace him? All these youngsta beauties start wetting their kits as soon as ball starts moving

Down2Earth
13th February 2012, 15:38
don't know about you guys but I'm sensing a malik special tonight

doctordamor
13th February 2012, 15:40
All points valid, but who will replace him? All these youngsta beauties start wetting their kits as soon as ball starts moving

It doesn't matter who we replace with point is he hasnt done nething in ODI so the new comer cant do worst. How abt tryig some youngsters and giving them a run

Looney
13th February 2012, 15:40
YK is still the highest scorer for Pakistan ( so far ) :yk

straightdrive1
13th February 2012, 15:41
If Younus Khan did managed to get a fifty in the current match
then all of these haters would have changed.

Then they would find another batsman to put the entire blame of the downfall...

Stop hating on one person,when a team fails the blame should go to the entire team,
not on one batsman or bowler...

Dr Khan
13th February 2012, 15:42
If Younus Khan did managed to get a fifty in the current match
then all of these haters would have changed.

Then they would find another batsman to put the entire blame of the downfall...

Stop hating on one person,when a team fails the blame should go to the entire team,
not on one batsman or bowler...

1+ Couldnt have said it better

TigerJat
13th February 2012, 15:43
Because Younis is expected to be the main batsman in this team.

He did not have a good test series either apart from one good innings. That level of performance is okay for Asad Shafiq, but not from Younis.

He is expected to be a consistent anchor in the middle when the batting lineup collapses. Yet he got out early again today.

So the criticism is well earned, having said that he should not be dropped from the team, unless this inconsistency continues for a long time.

If we need inconsistent, we can have any number of young batsmen, who can deliver good performance every 4-5 innings.

The standard is higher for Younis, as it is for Misbah. As it was for Inzamam, Yousuf, Miandad, etc.

jy1970us
13th February 2012, 15:44
If Younus Khan did managed to get a fifty in the current match
then all of these haters would have changed.

Then they would find another batsman to put the entire blame of the downfall...

Stop hating on one person,when a team fails the blame should go to the entire team,
not on one batsman or bowler...
if your team suck you clean up. You remove the worst player first; that will be Asad Shafiq. Then you remove the 2nd worst player; that will be YK.

Eagle_Eye
13th February 2012, 15:46
Who replaces Younis in team?......

I think there is more of a case of bringing in Azhar ALi at 3 and Shafiq making way... especially as it looks like Junior Akmal will be out of the series with the back strain/injury....

Inswinger
13th February 2012, 15:49
Who replaces Younis in team?......

I think there is more of a case of bringing in Azhar ALi at 3 and Shafiq making way... especially as it looks like Junior Akmal will be out of the series with the back strain/injury....

Looks like a back spasm. He should be fine.

jy1970us
13th February 2012, 15:51
Looks like a back spasm. He should be fine.yes. His muscles are not used to WK duties yet but they will get used to it. He should play continuous 5 matches as WK and then he will be fine.

straightdrive1
13th February 2012, 15:55
if your team suck you clean up. You remove the worst player first; that will be Asad Shafiq. Then you remove the 2nd worst player; that will be YK.

Then Some People Will Also Say Remove:
Imran,Hafeez,Misbah,Akmals(Umar and Adnan)

Zaz
13th February 2012, 16:06
Younis khan does need to go, however who would be his replacement?

mufassir
13th February 2012, 16:45
Well asad is a gud player and we should back him plus play a specialist keeper, drop malik and send umar at no 4 or 5.Regarding younis i think its about time he retires from shorter formats of the game plus we really should now find other openers coz hafeez is not performing just to put some pressure on him and i will not waste my time commenting on ****** farhat.i think misbah's policies in shorter formats of the game are not sound.

Boi
13th February 2012, 20:40
I don't know why we expect so much from Younis Khan in ODIs. He's a genuine minnow basher in ODIs as far as I'm afraid. Averages 49 against the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and other associate nations, but when it comes to main nations he averages a poor 29. Whilst he maybe a great test batsmen, he doesn't deserve to be in ODI side. It's a shame the likes of Salahuddin, Fawad and Umar Akmal aren't getting fair chances due to passengers like Farhat, Malik and Younis in the ODI side.

jy1970us
13th February 2012, 20:44
He averages 15 against Australia and 105 against Hong Kong. :facepalm:

ads101
13th February 2012, 21:04
All points valid, but who will replace him? All these youngsta beauties start wetting their kits as soon as ball starts moving
any youngster who has a chance at ending up with a career average of at least 29. Which could be virtually everyone.

The extra problem with YK isn't just he's not that good an ODI player. It's the fact he's old, lost form and there makes no sense playing him in ODIs anymore. won't last till next world cup, likely to get even worse, and whatsoever we need him more in tests, much better for him to focus on that format and prolong his career.

Players that are doing badly, worse than YK like Farhat and Malik at least are still young enough to last for the world cup. Plus they only play limited overs. They could turn good. If they start playing good now, and keep it up they could become experienced players that will be useful in the next world cup. I accept the chance of this happening is very small, but at least there is a chance.

YK is unlikely to turn good, and even if he does, it's too late. We won't be able to use that good form in the world cup he'll be too old. All he's doing is playing ODIs, prolonging his ODI career, despite the fact he's getting worse and worse in ODIs.

There is no logical sense to play him. Every other international team would have dropped him by now from the limited overs team. Except us. It is got to the point where it doesn't even matter if he performs. He needs to be out of the team. We can't move on until he is. There's just no potential left in him for ODIs.

Desi_Joker
13th February 2012, 21:11
Scoring runs against the likes of Zimbabwe and Afghanistan is cool and all, but he is incapable of reproducing those sort of innings against teams in the top 6 rankings in ODIs. It's time for him to hang his boots and walk away from ODI cricket. I would understand if he himself is reluctant in doing so. Not many players recognize that it is time for them to step aside, and hence I believe the job of relieving Younis Khan off his ODI duties falls on the shoulders of the selectors. He should be shown the door, because he doesn't have any innings of note against the top 6 teams in the rankings in recent times.

Dr Khan
13th February 2012, 21:13
Personally I dont see Yk being let go of ODI as long as Misbah is the captain. It seems they do have a special bond.

1137moiz
13th February 2012, 21:14
any youngster who has a chance at ending up with a career average of at least 29. Which could be virtually everyone.

The extra problem with YK isn't just he's not that good an ODI player. It's the fact he's old, lost form and there makes no sense playing him in ODIs anymore. won't last till next world cup, likely to get even worse, and whatsoever we need him more in tests, much better for him to focus on that format and prolong his career.

Players that are doing badly, worse than YK like Farhat and Malik at least are still young enough to last for the world cup. Plus they only play limited overs. They could turn good. If they start playing good now, and keep it up they could become experienced players that will be useful in the next world cup. I accept the chance of this happening is very small, but at least there is a chance.

YK is unlikely to turn good, and even if he does, it's too late. We won't be able to use that good form in the world cup he'll be too old. All he's doing is playing ODIs, prolonging his ODI career, despite the fact he's getting worse and worse in ODIs.

There is no logical sense to play him. Every other international team would have dropped him by now from the limited overs team. Except us. It is got to the point where it doesn't even matter if he performs. He needs to be out of the team. We can't move on until he is. There's just no potential left in him for ODIs.
To be fair Younus has been OK in LOs since the WC, but your point about potential stands. As far as the next WC goes, well I think Younus, though nearly certain to not play there, is still fitter than, say, Farhat and may even merit a spot except for age.

Having said that it's time for Younus to hang up the pajamas and concentrate on the Test format(maybe after this series InshaAllah).

rhussain33
13th February 2012, 21:15
YK and Misbah need to make way for Malik future captain and Azhar Ali then

Theres no way they dropping Malik, theres bare politics behind it

mufassir
14th February 2012, 11:02
Yeah i agree he needs to go now.

Hamzakhalid
15th February 2012, 18:42
he averages 32 in ODIs :|

ShahidAfridi_rulez
15th February 2012, 21:06
He is the senior one who should be playing really well, but that's not the case here. He's not performing at all.

Watsupdoc
15th February 2012, 21:15
Yes the time has come (nearly) for YK to retire but completely yet. We first need to get Azhar/Shafiq settled in the ODI side and then YK can retire, so that one of Azhar or Shafiq (who was left out) can take his place.

chui_kadoo
15th February 2012, 21:17
He is the most senior player in the team and most of the time he goes on a whimper in ODI's. We cant have Misbah and Younis in the same team