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srh
18th March 2012, 15:54
The only way Pakistan can beat this Indian team is by batting 2nd. Indian batting is too powerful and Pakistan bowling attack is currently one of the worst in their history. This is especially true on flat tracks.

Spiderguy252
18th March 2012, 16:03
:Mohali
:260

Spiderguy252
18th March 2012, 16:03
:Mohali
:260

Executioner
18th March 2012, 16:06
:floor:

Worst???

you guyz where saying its the best. Werent you guyz telling its one of the best in the world. But yes, the Pak bowlers bowled like club bowlers exc. ajmal and afridi is lost

Sledger
18th March 2012, 16:07
Bowl first and restrict India to under 300.

castortroy
18th March 2012, 16:09
No our batting would be able to chase 250 let alone 300.

castortroy
18th March 2012, 16:12
We can't chase 200 let alone 300 lol

MuqaddarKaSikandar
18th March 2012, 16:16
the way to beat them is to not make stupid decisions like giving the WK gloves to U Akmal !

PapaBear
18th March 2012, 16:17
As long as Misbah is captain we cant even defend 200 with his defensive fielding, imagine no slips in powerplay for Ajmal and a catch goes begging

DeadlyVenom
18th March 2012, 16:19
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))

imshally81
18th March 2012, 16:23
only we can win.... if misbah not in the team... itz a only way ...

Muhammad Waleed
18th March 2012, 16:23
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))

Haha Read it on Fb, Hilarious

fusebulb
18th March 2012, 16:24
330 ... walk in a park ....

Thank you ... nice meeting you....!!!

RRK92
18th March 2012, 16:24
Why is it that a lot of people on this site do not seem to rate our bowling at all, but the experts and commentators seems to rank this bowling attack as one of the best in the world at present time?

srh
18th March 2012, 16:26
I must have said especially on the flat tracks.

Muhammad Waleed
18th March 2012, 16:28
To win against India, with this bowling line up, we need to set up 400+ target

Fire Bird
18th March 2012, 16:29
Bowl first and dont get :sachin out. Let him lay his "foundation" and wait until 35th over. He will be batting around 90 at that time. He will bat for his 100 and waste the PP. He will get 100 in the 44th over. By that time, everyone around him would have perished trying to hit. India will end up with a below par score and chase against trundlers under lights.

Bewal Express
18th March 2012, 16:31
I would fancy Ind to chase 400 against us in these conditions. If we bat 1st we cant defend whether its against England or Ind and if we bat 2nd we can chase anything over 220. Basically its not a good side!

Savak
18th March 2012, 16:33
A change in attitude will go a long way. How about being more fearless, looking for wickets when the Indians launch their onslaught on the bowling, not giving six free singles in the over, having men in the ring, having slips, looking to take wickets as oppossed to dreaming about defending the target via defensive tactics.

If the Indians were going to win then why not go down attacking? The lack of bowling skills from our fast bowling didn't help. First time it looked like Pakistan finding it tough to fill Akhtar's shoes.

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violet_may
18th March 2012, 16:39
The form Kohli is in, quite sure he can maneuver his way around most bowling attacks along with whatever field placement is being accompanied. He did it against SL, did it against us.

No surprises, a class act he is.

Although yes, our bowling was miserable but it shouldn't take away from Kohli's onslaught.

spaceshot
18th March 2012, 16:45
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))


:)))
Man, some deranged stuff that. :D

deltav
18th March 2012, 16:57
Bowl first and dont get :sachin out. Let him lay his "foundation" and wait until 35th over. He will be batting around 90 at that time. He will bat for his 100 and waste the PP. He will get 100 in the 44th over. By that time, everyone around him would have perished trying to hit. India will end up with a below par score and chase against trundlers under lights.

I have to agree with you that we lost due to Sachin on that last bangla game. However I beg to disagree that he will repeat that thing again. That 100th 100 was getting too much for him. He was really under some pressure to get it off the back. See the way he played today. It was free and fearless and helped india setup the chase

proud_pakistani
18th March 2012, 16:58
Tbh I am clueless, we keep talking about how bad Indian bowling is but there batsmen are good enough to win them games. This is 21st century cricket, unless our batsmen don't set themselves higher standards we will continuously struggle against India.

Yes I said it, we needed perhaps 350-360, but the way Afridi and Misbah batted in the end it seemed they were happy with where we were going. Unless Pakistan doesn't challenge itself more the way India does, and I mean in all departments we won't develop that never say die attitude. Also we need a captain who believes in the 11 that are out there, playing the extra bowler made it seem he has a lack of faith. And the field placements have shown the same.

Justcrazy
18th March 2012, 16:59
Kohli in form is just unstoppable.

AnotherIndian
18th March 2012, 17:00
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))


Wooow!!!! :zaid
Hilarious stuff!!!! :asif

Blitz
18th March 2012, 17:00
I don't see a way out in ODI's against India.


1. Our batting isn't good enough to always take advantage of India's horrendous bowling.

2. We can't chase anything over 200.

3. Our main bowling strength is spin. Something the Indians play very well.

4. India can bloody chase anything.


You know how Pakistan for 2 decades, was untouchable by India? It seems the roles have been reversed.

They counter our strengths way too well. I'm not saying India is a better team per say in the context of ODI's, but they are certainly the better team in Ind/Pak ODI matches.

Our achilles heel if you will.

Executioner
18th March 2012, 17:01
I might be a bit biased as BDeshi but to be honest, what you guys need is a dependable all rounder like sakib al hasan

This guy plays like a hero when his team needs it and he is better than afridi because he tries to run on most of the balls he faces and when he needs to hit he can unleash his blade.

Or maybe you guyz could do with a kohli. cant remember the last time you guyz had a good NO. 3

dhump
18th March 2012, 17:02
with some shame and simple methods we could have won it how good was our bowling ??? totally crap just imagine wahab the line he was bowling and getting hit ball after ball so there is no drama in beating this Indian side blame Pakistani fielders and some bowlers.

srh
18th March 2012, 17:06
People seems to be forgetting how bad is Indian bowling attack. Pakistan batting can chase targets against them more likely than Pakistan bowling restricting Indian batting chase.

Cricfan4eva
18th March 2012, 17:11
^Well however bad our bowling is, Pakistan always find it tough chasing against us :yk :misbah. You guys laughed at our bowling attack in Mohali as well, what happened? 260 seemed like 300.

adit_sh
18th March 2012, 17:16
Play in IPL?

Crazy_K
18th March 2012, 17:23
If this is Pakistans worst. What about India's bowling? :(

Asim_khan
18th March 2012, 17:26
Take Wahab Riaz's 4 overs out of the equation and we would have won the match.

It was a horrible lazy effort in the field all round.

Gattuso
18th March 2012, 17:27
and who would bowl in his place ? - wasim ?

Cracket
18th March 2012, 17:28
Its actually getting boring. India won and none of my friends are even celebrating, infact we barely saw the match.

When was the last time Pak beat India in any form of the game?

Also I don't think our team is good. Flat tracks are our speciality but also given the way we have been playing since we toured England, I genuinely feel Pak is the better team. I think its the pressure that gets to them vs India matches.

spaceshot
18th March 2012, 17:30
Take Wahab Riaz's 4 overs out of the equation and we would have won the match.

It was a horrible lazy effort in the field all round.


Yea, as if there were bowlers right about in the every single other player who would have bowled maidens and wicket maidens.

Gattuso
18th March 2012, 17:31
think that would be the Kitply cup

DOOSRA95
18th March 2012, 17:31
Tbh I am clueless, we keep talking about how bad Indian bowling is but there batsmen are good enough to win them games. This is 21st century cricket, unless our batsmen don't set themselves higher standards we will continuously struggle against India.

Yes I said it, we needed perhaps 350-360, but the way Afridi and Misbah batted in the end it seemed they were happy with where we were going. Unless Pakistan doesn't challenge itself more the way India does, and I mean in all departments we won't develop that never say die attitude. Also we need a captain who believes in the 11 that are out there, playing the extra bowler made it seem he has a lack of faith. And the field placements have shown the same.

After 30 over i thought i will witness Pakistan in T20 mode with 10 wickets in hand, what i saw next was just typical laxidasical batting apart from much maligned YK.

What can one say about the atrociousness about our bowling half volleys the better.

Inzamamfan
18th March 2012, 17:33
If India wil make use of Part time bowlers you would surly attack them. Pakistan need some variation, We are missing someone like Akthar.

HashimAmlaFan
18th March 2012, 17:44
Needs to improvement in fielding vastly.

mastermind_quad
18th March 2012, 17:46
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))



Lolz really....

btw I am sorry ...who is Zaid Hamid ??

shokz1408
18th March 2012, 17:48
This is funny, and true. Pakistan's weak point is chasing yet that is the only way they will beat India. India will be confident chasing anything Pakistan puts up on the board :/. So our only chances of beating india are via chasing? Well ahem, it doesn't seem we'll beat india often then. Daymn. I always thought if we'd bat first we would win with our bowling line up. Now if we dont even have that in our favour, we don't really have much.

Spiderguy252
18th March 2012, 17:53
You guys need good batsmen. End of story.

Batsmen win you one-dayers.

Bowlers win you tests.

velu
18th March 2012, 17:53
lol..

india strength is chasing and pakista's weakness is chasing :D
if pak bats first we chase it , if pak bat second they will blow it :))

we are in a win win situation

Buffet
18th March 2012, 18:00
Pakistan won! The Muslims of former East Pakistan massively supported Pakistan and booed the Indians and that is where the true defeat of the Indians was visible. Muslims of former East Pakistan hate India and love Pakistan. Despite all the attempts of the Hindus to create rift between two wings of Muslims, they remain our brothers and sisters. Congratulations. We won in Dhaka!

Our boys played well. Stay strong and be ready to fight them again. That is our spirit!

Zaid Hamid on FB putting a positive spin on things :))

lol... Who is this guy? Since you follow him in facebook , I am assuming he is one of your friends. He has very good sense of humor :)

Savak
18th March 2012, 18:28
Sorry to say but the Pakistani team is just to overawed with the batting talent India has shown since 2002. Indo Pak matches from 2003 till now will prove it. Previously we used to have fighters like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Miandad, Akhtar, Afridi who would always believe in the possibility of a win even when India needs 10 runs to win with 7 wickets in hand.

Nowdays everytime the Indians attack us everyone from the bowlers, fielders, captain just shits himself, shoulders drop, fielders are placed on the boundry, singles are allowed every delivery and no one looks to take wickets.

Scared, cowardly characters and players with no mental toughness, passion should be kicked out. A fighting attitude cannot be taught.

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proud_pakistani
18th March 2012, 18:42
After 30 over i thought i will witness Pakistan in T20 mode with 10 wickets in hand, what i saw next was just typical laxidasical batting apart from much maligned YK.

What can one say about the atrociousness about our bowling half volleys the better.

I think the main thing is the poor attitude. It is one which is laid back. Generally of late Pakistan holds themselves back. There have only been a handful of matches where I have seen Pakistan being absolutely ruthless in their approach. Even against minnows Pakistani attitude is we will win the game so why shud we make an effort and I feel today the bowlers felt that cushion of 330 runs and got laid back. They really need to be challenging themselves more.

Cricket is simple- Score runs as many as possible and do everything to take wickets. And attack, u wont be criticised for being attacking, u will if u are defensive.

Asim_khan
18th March 2012, 20:27
Yea, as if there were bowlers right about in the every single other player who would have bowled maidens and wicket maidens.

Just look at the economy rate of each of the other bowlers in comparison to Wahab's, it's simple mathematics, he went at nearly twice as much as the others. We had 6 bowlers, you only need 5 to complete their allotted overs to complete 50 overs, think about it.

So as I said, had Wahab not bowled, I believe we would have won.

zubair007
18th March 2012, 20:39
If I had bought a lottery ticket, I would have won it!

HashimAmlaFan
19th March 2012, 09:13
You guys need good batsmen. End of story.

Batsmen win you one-dayers.

Bowlers win you tests.

And what about fielding?

Zulqarnain_Mohammad
19th March 2012, 13:08
There is no way at all....now Pakistan is not only scared of losing against India but also scared of playing against India

Gattuso
19th March 2012, 13:12
would like to see a Pak chase though... could be closer than you think considering the shambles that our bowling is...

shades
19th March 2012, 14:05
Frankly I do not see the Pakistani bowlers doing as badly they did yesterday. They will have learned from their mistakes and improve. Do not see our bowlers improving though :-(
All they have to do is bat as well as they did and they should comfortably be able to defeat us.
But can they bat as well once again is a different topic of debate altogether :-)

Namak_Halaal
19th March 2012, 14:07
The OP makes it sound as if India is unbeatable, they are not, they got beat by Bangladesh for heavens sake!

What we need is simply an aggressive captain (which we do not have) – that’s all.

kerala porotta
19th March 2012, 14:17
The OP makes it sound as if India is unbeatable, they are not, they got beat by Bangladesh for heavens sake!

What we need is simply an aggressive captain (which we do not have) – that’s all.

Am sure India is beatable if you guys bat 2nd... if the situation was reversed yesterday am pretty sure pakistan might have won...our bowlers are just not good enough...

shades
19th March 2012, 14:25
Frankly I would be more than happy as an Indian fan if Pakistan decides to bowl first after the last match.
I just cannot visualize them chasing 300+ no matter how good the track. Its more about the pressure chasing being an India Pak match and suddenly our PK will start looking like Waqar at his best (as happened in Mohali)
But if India are chasing and lose a couple of wickets, Ajmal & co can stifle the batsmen and make them play loose shots. You cannot expect Kohli like innings everytime.

srh
17th September 2012, 14:35
The only way Pakistan can beat this Indian team is by batting 2nd. Indian batting is too powerful and Pakistan bowling attack is currently one of the worst in their history. This is especially true on flat tracks.
Bump.

srh
17th September 2012, 14:37
People seems to be forgetting how bad is Indian bowling attack. Pakistan batting can chase targets against them more likely than Pakistan bowling restricting Indian batting chase.
timeless truth.

IamIndian
17th September 2012, 16:02
Akmal was not affected by pressure of loosing the match.. and played brilliantly.. If he can or any other pakistani batsmen do this on the real matches, they certainly can lift the trophy. Still I think Indian batsmen can really handle the pressure more... Like Kohli, Gambir, Shewag, Dhoni etc are cool customers in pressure situations.. If Pakistan can do that, why not this cup is yours.. Good luck to Pakistan..