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Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 07:53
Predicitions to pakistans starting 11? i think 11 players who are gona play in 1st test should be picked.
butt
taufeeq
hameed
inzi
yoyo
kamal
akmal
sami
rana
kaneria
arshad k
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Did you miss the vice captain there ?
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 08:18
Did you miss the vice captain there ?
no i made sure hes 12th man |-G :oD :-D
waquas_uk
1st March 2005, 08:27
i would drop taufeeq make yasir open and bring in YK
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 08:35
i would drop taufeeq make yasir open and bring in YK
|-A :-^ bad idea
i would drop taufeeq make yasir open and bring in YK
|-A :-^ bad idea
Have a feeling that your friend BW is thinking on the same lines - there is no way that YK will not figure in atleast the first Test....
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 08:51
can we have a sticky on this? please
this thread shud be used for match discussion aswell b4,during and afta.....
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 09:14
|-W gud job boss....
as a penalty , read my TSN thingy and tell me what u think!
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 10:25
Amjid how can you leave out Younis khan ? He proved in aus that he is one of our best batters ! Hameed does not deserve to be in the squad. Younis scored a hundred versus lankans and did pretty ok down under !
Younis for number 3....................
nedian21
1st March 2005, 10:50
ya Younis shd be in the test team. though hameed scored 2 50s he doesnt know where his offstump is.
my team for the 1st shd be (obviously they shd play same 11 in 3day)
1. Taufiq
2. Salman
3. Younis
4. Inzi
5. Yo Yo
6. ~(this one is tricky) i wud luv to have Asim here but i doubt he wud be . Mohali is one of the better pitches in India and Bob might be inclined to play Razzaq at 6 which wud be a blunder. but ihave the feeling Razzaq will play at 6. Razzaq is rubbish in test cricket i wud like to even Shahid Afridi at 6 than Razzaq although Asim is perfect for number 6.
7. Kamran
8. Rana
9. Sami
10. Kaneria
11. Arshad
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 10:50
Amjid how can you leave out Younis khan ? He proved in aus that he is one of our best batters ! Hameed does not deserve to be in the squad. Younis scored a hundred versus lankans and did pretty ok down under !
Younis for number 3....................
i justed i did :oD :oD :|v
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 10:52
agree with that hameed first need to learn from mistakes ! malik for 6 !
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 10:56
serious yaar younis is a good player while hameed scored his last hundred on debut thats just POOR !
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 11:00
YK is vastly overated player.
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 11:04
Why he is better then hameed and he knows that you dont chase a wide delivery !
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 11:16
YK, always fails to convert thus rubbish ave of 39.
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 11:26
Average of 39 ok not that great but if he continues at 3 his average will come good
Btw Hameeds average is sinking every game !
Amjid Javed
1st March 2005, 11:27
hameed will get better when he bats number 3!
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 11:39
He had a long run at 3 but did not deliver why replace younis when`he is doing fine ....
younis average has been really good for last test matches
From BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4307935.stm
Weather worry for Pakistan opener
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40877000/jpg/_40877397_pakistan203.jpg
Pakistan were in good spirits when they arrived at Kangra airport
Pakistan face the prospect of going into the Test series in India short of match practice with rain threatening to disrupt their only warm-up fixture.
They are due to begin a three-day game against an Indian Board President's XI at Dharamshala on Wednesday.
But rain forced the cancellation of Tuesday's schedule practice session and more is forecast until the weekend.
"We are helpless before nature," said Anurag Thakur, president of the local Himachal Pradesh Cricket Association.
"Everybody is keeping their fingers crossed," he added.
The Pakistan players could only watch the skies from their hotel after an hour-long drive from Kangra airport.
"We are here to play and do not want to go into the Test series short of match practice.
"I wish the rain would go away," said manager Salim Altaf.
The tour is Pakistan's first to India since 1999 and they are looking to atone for last year's home defeat by their arch-rivals.
The Dalai Lama, who has lived in exile in Dharamshala since fleeing China in 1959, will not inaugurate the match as originally planned.
There were reports that the Pakistan Cricket Board were concerned about his presence because of their country's good relations with China.
"The decision has been taken by the Dalai Lama as he didn't want to cause inconvenience to anyone," said his spokesman, Tenzin Takla.
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 11:47
##### this game can show us the difference between younis and hameed !
Weather worry for Pakistan opener
Amjid Javed Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:59 pm
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Pakistan face the prospect of going into the Test series in India short of match practice with rain threatening to disrupt their only warm-up fixture.
They are due to begin a three-day game against an Indian Board President's XI at Dharamshala on Wednesday.
But rain forced the cancellation of Tuesday's schedule practice session and more is forecast until the weekend.
"We are helpless before nature," said Anurag Thakur, president of the local Himachal Pradesh Cricket Association.
"Everybody is keeping their fingers crossed," he added.
The Pakistan players could only watch the skies from their hotel after an hour-long drive from Kangra airport.
"We are here to play and do not want to go into the Test series short of match practice.
"I wish the rain would go away," said manager Salim Altaf.
The tour is Pakistan's first to India since 1999 and they are looking to atone for last year's home defeat by their arch-rivals.
The Dalai Lama, who has lived in exile in Dharamshala since fleeing China in 1959, will not inaugurate the match as originally planned.
There were reports that the Pakistan Cricket Board were concerned about his presence because of their country's good relations with China.
"The decision has been taken by the Dalai Lama as he didn't want to cause inconvenience to anyone," said his spokesman, Tenzin Takla.
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1.6 B Lee to Shahid Afridi, OUT: nope, the Afridi law of rarely being able to score more than his age remains, spoons it high over the bowler, mid on runs around to take a safe catch
MenInGreen Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:01 pm
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AJ Check your sticky thread up there - already posted so that u dont have to create a new thread !
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Best Regards
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I can see the future....its green...
Amjid Javed Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:05 pm
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i blame u for this
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1.6 B Lee to Shahid Afridi, OUT: nope, the Afridi law of rarely being able to score more than his age remains, spoons it high over the bowler, mid on runs around to take a safe catch
Amjid Javed Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:13 pm
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can u add this 2 other thread plz
Awesome Anjum
1st March 2005, 12:56
If it rains, and the match is called off, I'm not sure how much Match practise our players have had in Domestic Cricket. I know that Sami, Arshad Khan and Taufeeq have played some matches - not too sure about the others.
Hash
1st March 2005, 15:34
Danish was playing as well I think. Khalil was too.
the true passionist
1st March 2005, 16:24
i think after a lot of speculations..the team is pretty much decided...reading bob's site recently clearts out any selection dillemas in anyines mind...
we know the following
1.Salman Butt....No argument
2.Taufeeq......Bob has clearly favoured and supported him..and duely so...solid player...much better than the flashy hameed!!
3.YKhan.....certain to be in the team.Bob has clearly said it aswel
4.Inzi....no question
5.Yohana...no question
6.Malik...well this was a bit of a Q...well again bob said it on his site..Malik will is almost certain to be there...ahead of Asim...this also clears any confusion about Afridi/Razaq..they will not play...and pakistan will play 4 specialist bowlers
7.Kamran Akmal...no argument
then the best 4 bowlers are
8.sami
9.rana
10.AKhan
11.DKaneria
wot time does this match start
Officer Barbrady
1st March 2005, 18:51
Amjid you say Hameed can't be dropped since he scored two fifties but Younis Khan can even though he was the most successful batsman in Australia? Smells of double standards to me.
Salman Butt
Taufeeq Umar
Younis Khan
Inzamam
Yousuf Youhana
Shoaib Malik
Kamran Akmal
Rana Naveed
M Sami
Arshad Khan
Danish Kaneria
scifinite
1st March 2005, 18:55
good team Marooned
Naveed
1st March 2005, 19:19
I'm almost certain that the squads listed above will be the ones that we go in with.
which 1 is that naveed?
and wots ur source of info
Naveed
1st March 2005, 19:30
The ones posted by true passionist and Marooned.
Source is publicly available info and statements that everyone has seen. Do you disagree?
Awesome Anjum
1st March 2005, 19:37
I agree with the abovementioned Teams. However, the only problem I foresee is that if one of our 4 bowlers breaks down, we have no back up. Whereas India, can call upon Sehwag, Sachin and Ganguly.
Naveed
1st March 2005, 19:44
So do you think that Malik, YK or Taufeeq should be replaced by Razzak?
Officer Barbrady
1st March 2005, 19:53
We can't plan for injuries.
mumtaz
1st March 2005, 19:58
Abt Taufiq, I think he has the temperament but doesnt have the shots, still remember his VB Series Final attempt to pull. For me both Malik and Kamal are better than him although if u play both then there is the question of who would open with Butt. I would try YKhan as an opener and Malik as no.3 but I dont think Bob is going to do it.
Any thoughts on playing Afridi instead of Arshad Khan? Indians bring out the best in him.
pakistani pride
1st March 2005, 20:33
The team that is listed above is the most logical !
Awesome Anjum
1st March 2005, 20:53
No Naveed, we must go in with specialists.
Officer Barbrady
1st March 2005, 20:57
Abt Taufiq, I think he has the temperament but doesnt have the shots, still remember his VB Series Final attempt to pull. For me both Malik and Kamal are better than him although if u play both then there is the question of who would open with Butt. I would try YKhan as an opener and Malik as no.3 but I dont think Bob is going to do it.
That pull didn't come off and probably shouldn't have been played at the time but it was technically OK.
He is a good driver both sides of the wickets, cuts very well and generally pulls well. Very strong off his legs. I don't see how you can say he doesn't have enough shots for test cricket.
Geordie Ahmed
1st March 2005, 21:19
Abt Taufiq, I think he has the temperament but doesnt have the shots, still remember his VB Series Final attempt to pull. For me both Malik and Kamal are better than him although if u play both then there is the question of who would open with Butt. I would try YKhan as an opener and Malik as no.3 but I dont think Bob is going to do it.
Any thoughts on playing Afridi instead of Arshad Khan? Indians bring out the best in him.
did you see Butt trying to pull in Australia, he didnt have a clue!
Schiller
1st March 2005, 21:26
I like Marooned's team
zulfiqar
2nd March 2005, 06:06
I like marooned's team with the adjustment:
Arhad --> Khalil (Unless he is still injured?)
Have been speaking to some Indian colleagues of mine and they cannot understand the reason for the game in Dharmasela - its the equivalent of playing the series opener in Murree! Mohali and Dharmasela are miles apart - why was this avenue chosen ?
pakistani pride
2nd March 2005, 07:13
hhhmmmmm dont know MIG !
Answer me PP !!! I demand to know ........:oD !
good old PCB again. Poor planning of only having one warmup fixture and the obscure location.
Waseem
2nd March 2005, 11:58
YK is vastly overated player..... Amjid Javed.
Amjid you said the same thing about him and posted trillions of threads about Younis being useless, before going to Australia (that's after he had scored a good century against Lanka). He had pretty good series in Aus, he didn't score heavily but he was one of the most consistent batsmen on the tour. After his few good innings, you said this " I never doubted his ability and talent blah blah". So what has he done wrong since Australia tour and what has Hameed done to impress you???????
Younis MUST play in the first TEST, can be replaced later if needed.
pakistani pride
2nd March 2005, 13:03
Good post Waseem . younis deffo deserves to play !
After thinking hard MIG i came to the conclusion that like saj sad same old ##### pcb !
IMMY69
2nd March 2005, 15:44
also, yk is future captain and so he must play!
Nawazb
2nd March 2005, 16:17
game satrts at 4 in the mornin uk time insallah
Awesome Anjum
2nd March 2005, 19:03
I believe YK will play and bat at 3.
Gasherbrum
2nd March 2005, 20:00
With just one warm up game, you don't have much room for experimentation. hopefully we'll bat first so the batsmen can have 2 knocks in a 3 day game.
anyword on the weather? game will start in 10 minutes.
moiez_no1
3rd March 2005, 03:08
hey guys were can listen to commnmentry or bal by bal text ??
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 03:15
so..no ball by ball updates?
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 03:16
The match has been delayed due to poor light.
moiez_no1
3rd March 2005, 03:25
BAD LIGHT DELAY START BUT PAKISTAN WIN THE TOSS AND ELECT TO FIELD
J-Essence
3rd March 2005, 03:47
inzi first win with the toss and now ready to bat....inzi "i will bat"
Pakistanis team:
*Inzamam-ul-Haq, Taufeeq Umar, Salman Butt, Yousuf Youhana,
Younis Khan, Asim Kamal, Abdul Razzaq, +Kamran Akmal,
Danish Kaneria, Mohammad Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan.
Indian Board President's XI team:
DS Jadhav, SS Parab, *M Kaif, Y Venugopal Rao, S Raina,
+PA Patel, RR Powar, Gagandeep Singh, SS Paul, RP Singh,
NK Patel.
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 03:51
Pakistanis team:
*Inzamam-ul-Haq, Taufeeq Umar, Salman Butt, Yousuf Youhana,
Younis Khan, Asim Kamal, Abdul Razzaq, +Kamran Akmal,
Danish Kaneria, Mohammad Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan.
Indian Board President's XI team:
DS Jadhav, SS Parab, *M Kaif, Y Venugopal Rao, S Raina,
+PA Patel, RR Powar, Gagandeep Singh, SS Paul, RP Singh,
NK Patel.
could be the first xi for the test match as no more practise after this unless second innings different.
looks like the mohali line up
3 seamers and danish
taufeeq beats out yasir , and kamal over malik .
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 03:52
erm ok. Razzak one of the four front-line bowers. Gulp.
Batting looks strong though.
if this will be the 11 fior the first test - can anyone explain to me why malik will not be playing?? he has creamed india in the last 4 odis we have won.
how can u justify taufeeq, yk or even asim over him?
J-Essence
3rd March 2005, 03:55
these are the batsmen that will be tested on field and all bowlers will be given chance
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 03:58
4 runs for taufeeq
4/0 after 2 overs
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 04:00
if this will be the 11 fior the first test - can anyone explain to me why malik will not be playing?? he has creamed india in the last 4 odis we have won.
how can u justify taufeeq, yk or even asim over him?
test matches are not odis...he cant bowl..thats why(probably).
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 04:03
9/0 rain stopped play :o^
yes everyone know malik cant bowl , but his batting alone is better then most others on our team.
J-Essence
3rd March 2005, 04:17
hahaha
that sux,,,
mumtaz
3rd March 2005, 04:42
well, i think performance in this match is also going to count quite a lot in the selection for the 1st test. If kamal or taufeeq dont perform in both the innings then we may see malik coming in.
razzaq is probably playing only because khalil is injured and there is no other seamer in the team but if khalil is fit for the first test, he may play there.
Toony™®
3rd March 2005, 04:53
i reckon..they mayturn this match to a one dayer ---- if there is just one days play.
more like a 20-20 games by the looks of it...
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 04:57
If Wasim Akram I mean Mo Khalil isn't fit why in the world was he taken? Is he that precious that we need him in the squad even if he's half fit?
mumtaz
3rd March 2005, 05:09
well the main reason given is that he is going to be good net practice for pak batsmen bcoz india has pathan zaheer and nehra.
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 05:13
Surely he can't give them practise when he can't even bowl in the nets.
tahaqureshi
3rd March 2005, 06:54
ITS STARTING!!!!!!!
tahaqureshi
3rd March 2005, 06:56
first ball back taufeeq umar hits it for FOUR!
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 07:41
Butt runout for 23
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 07:46
Younis Khan caught at second slip for a duck.
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 08:53
Taufeeq out unusual dismissal inside edge onto pad and caught at mid-wicket off a medium pacer.
MIG: No one is posting here.
Sage
3rd March 2005, 08:58
Yeah, 4 down
If you're bored, check out this cricketer's photo on his Cricinfo profile (http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/PLAYERS/PAK/I/IMRAN_KHAN_07001383/)...
***?
When did Entralinks become Cricinfo's profile editor?
|-K
a post....:oD!
Looks to me like 2 things:
1. Pak getting in the mood of things
2. Pak unable to get going due to weather conditions
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 09:00
:oD Where have you drifted out of ?
Yes its been there for a while. Botham has a similar one on his page! ??
Sage
3rd March 2005, 09:03
Oh its been a very long couple weeks.
Been checking up on the Time Pass section on occasion...and thoroughly enjoying the inane banter :oD
Good Sage:
Pls immediately, withour further ado, rate my 2 storeis on TheSpoof.com ( 5 star and no less )
http://www.thespoof.com/writers/stories/story.cfm?sID=7579&sRow=1
http://www.thespoof.com/writers/stories/story.cfm?sID=7541&sRow=1
!!!
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 09:08
:oD Mig
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 09:09
Mig, u posted the editing page !
the Pindi eXPRESS
3rd March 2005, 09:11
YA ALLAH MADAD KAR PK KI
Sage
3rd March 2005, 09:20
MIG |-R
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 09:37
With Asim in the current partnership we are witnessing the importance of a specialist number six....
Afridi/Razzak at 6 means there is little hope of recovery from here on.
Sage: Here are the links
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s6i7541
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s6i7541
Do read the umpiring one, should be in the satire section here.
Mig: Why not post the umpiring article on spoof as well? I thought that was very good.
Sage
3rd March 2005, 09:51
Always enjoy the MiG articles...fantastic writing.
With Akhtar gone, I hope we can finally use the 6 batsman - 4 strike bowler specialist formula for Tests.
pakistani pride
3rd March 2005, 10:11
did the match go on ?
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 10:14
Yes PP, it is 152/4. Asim just swept two boundries. Both Inzi and Asim are in the 30s.
the Pindi eXPRESS
3rd March 2005, 10:22
Chalo Ji........Inzi bhi gaya
Wot score is Pk gona end up wiv....ne predictions?
the Pindi eXPRESS
3rd March 2005, 10:31
I hope Kamal goes on to making a TONNNNN
n tht Popeye hasn't had much spinach (he'll feel 2 strong 2 go after the bowlers) or else his chances ov staying are less............
Maybe its the "legendary" swing conditions that we always encounter on our first match !
zulfiqar
3rd March 2005, 10:32
thankfully due to asim kamal we have a score above 150. I can see pakistan at the moment realistically scoring max of 220. I think that razzaq is back int eh side primarily due to his bowling ability (well, i suppose that is obvious as he had a horrible test series in aus with the bat). So let's hope he can do the business with the ball!
zulfiqar
3rd March 2005, 10:35
But thats all we can do.. hope. Because on paper and recent past series, our bowling attack can only throw pies... it may be enough for this indian president xi (i sure hope so) but what about Ghambir, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman... damn i can't believe how many people we need to go through =-) I'll stop thinking about it, it makes my head hurt
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 12:19
great 2 see pakistans VC skipper get runs!
well done asim kamal also!
Yes - can someone pls remind me of the result in Indias series opener in Lahore , last year ? .......
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 12:45
MIG, can u now see why VC wasnt in my x1
Geordie Ahmed
3rd March 2005, 12:54
Amjid are you being serious???
Your attacking of Younis Khan has been justified because he got a duck in a tour match????
Have you conveniently forgot about the runs he scored in aus and the score he made against SL???
Fessal
3rd March 2005, 12:56
I wouldn't read too much in this warm up game. Players are a bit rusty and should be fine for the first test. YK is a bit of a horse though sometimes, onde day running fast and galloping and other day just trotting. :-p
From Rediff, match report:
Pakistan falter after good start
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2005/mar/03warmup.htm
March 03, 2005 18:45 IST
Pakistan made an unceremonious start to their high profile tour of India. A middle-order collapse undid a fluent start against the Board President's XI on the opening day of the three-day warm-up match at the HPCA stadium in Dharamsala on Thursday.
The visitors were 165 for five at close despite a half century opening stand and another equally enterprising middle-order partnership between captain Inzamam-ul Haq and Asim Kamal.
Inzamam's 35th birthday celebrations were spoilt to a large extent by some indiscretion on his part besides penetrative bowling and agile fielding by the Board XI players.
At stumps, Kamal was batting on 43, with Abdul Razzaq on two.
Taufeeq Umar (37) and Salman Butt (21) gave the tourists a solid start before two quick dismissals pegged them back.
The opening pair helped the team quickly get off the blocks after bad light and drizzle robbed nearly three hours of play.
Butt and Umar put on 54 runs for the opening stand before the former was run out for 21 after captain Inzamam-ul Haq elected to bat.
The hosts, however, made regular inroads to find themselves in a comfortable position at the end of the day.
Earlier, the start of play was delayed by about 50 minutes due to bad light.
The heavy cloud cover held up play much to the disappointment of 5000-odd spectators who had come to watch the Pakistanis on their first visit to India in six years.
And when play finally got underway, heavy drizzle forced suspension with less than three overs bowled.
It was only after close to an hour after scheduled lunch that the sun came out for the first time in the day and some real action was possible.
Butt and Umar were in excellent touch as they drove seamers Rudra Pratap Singh and Gagandeep Singh effortlessly.
The two left-handers had full support of the locals who cheered every boundary they hit.
Butt, whose confidence was high after a classy century against Australia, found his first boundary with an elegant cover drive off R P Singh. He struck two more from the other end to seize the initiative.
The scoring rate reached alarming levels when host captain Mohammad Kaif turned to Ramesh Powar, the Mumbai off-spinner who had been among the wickets this season.
And the trick did work. Off the last ball of Powar's first over, Umar played it to square leg and seemed to settle for a single. Butt called for an ambitious second and was promptly sent back, but it was too late to beat Venugopala Rao's throw.
Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.
Yousuf Youhana (18) announced his arrival with two meaty blows off Powar on the on side. But what promised to be an entertaining innings was cut short when Shib Shankar Paul found his inside edge.
Parthiv Patel, who had fumbled a couple of takes earlier, made no mistake and took a tumbling catch forward.
R P Singh resumed his second spell from the opposite end and tasted success immediately when he had Umar caught bat pad by Kaif at forward short leg.
Thanks to those two dismissals immediately after the tea break, Pakistan slipped to 83 for four and found themselves on the backfoot.
Butthe second string Indian attack posed little problems for Inzamam. He pulled R P Singh effortlessly to midwicket fence, and then cut and drove him on the off side, forcing Kaif to take him out of the attack.
Asim Kamal, whom the Indians will remember for his nerves of steel during the series last year, was equally adept at hooking Paul over backward square-leg. Later, he struck the Bengal pacer for two straight driven fours in the same over.
By now the cloud cover had lifted, giving a full view of the snowy peaks and the clear blue sky was visible for the first time in days.
The batsmen seemed to as much relish the sunshine as they stepped up the tempo.
The left-handed Kamal lofted Venugopala Rao to long on to bring up the 150. And Inzamam's every shot was reason for the crowd to cheer his 35th birthday.
Sadly, the Pakistan captain could make only as many runs.
And ending the 72-run partnership was the same lollypop off spin of the Andhra player when Inzamam played a reckless sweep and missed to be leg before wicket.
Scorecard
Pakistan (1st innings):
S Butt run out 21
T Umar c Kaif b R P Singh 37
Younis Khan c Jadhav b Gagandeep Singh 0
Y Youhana c Patel b Paul 18
Inzamam-ul-Haq lbw Rao 35
A Kamal batting 43
A Razzaq batting 2
Extras: ((b-5, lb-2, nb-2): 9
Total: (for 5 wickets in 45 overs) 165
Fall of wickets: 1-54, 2-55, 3-83, 4-83, 5-155.
Bowling: R P Singh 13-3-50-1, Gagandeep 15-3-40-1, Ramesh Powar 4-0-22-0, SS Paul 8-2-23-1, Venugopala Rao 5-0-23-1.
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:05
Amjid are you being serious???
Your attacking of Younis Khan has been justified because he got a duck in a tour match????
Have you conveniently forgot about the runs he scored in aus and the score he made against SL???
1st off all it was a joke... 2ndly an attack?
where....?
listen guy averages 39 in test ... also he was in form in Australia
so were where the big runs? seems most fans are satisified when form players cash in and get the odd 50...!
most top quality players cashi in when in form with 100+, 150+ or even 200s etc.... or they score 100 after 100
YK top form is a list of 40s etc... sadly that aint gud enuf.
if ur happy with that so be it...
look at a strauss or kallis, when they are in form they bang 100 after 100
yet with useless khan its 40, 45,60,21,80 etc...
thats a poor return for sum1 in top form!
my comments may seem outspoken,facts is hes not justifying potential he has....!
hes not even been a regular in tests for last 2 years!
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:07
From Rediff, match report:
Pakistan falter after good start
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2005/mar/03warmup.htm
March 03, 2005 18:45 IST
Pakistan made an unceremonious start to their high profile tour of India. A middle-order collapse undid a fluent start against the Board President's XI on the opening day of the three-day warm-up match at the HPCA stadium in Dharamsala on Thursday.
The visitors were 165 for five at close despite a half century opening stand and another equally enterprising middle-order partnership between captain Inzamam-ul Haq and Asim Kamal.
Inzamam's 35th birthday celebrations were spoilt to a large extent by some indiscretion on his part besides penetrative bowling and agile fielding by the Board XI players.
At stumps, Kamal was batting on 43, with Abdul Razzaq on two.
Taufeeq Umar (37) and Salman Butt (21) gave the tourists a solid start before two quick dismissals pegged them back.
The opening pair helped the team quickly get off the blocks after bad light and drizzle robbed nearly three hours of play.
Butt and Umar put on 54 runs for the opening stand before the former was run out for 21 after captain Inzamam-ul Haq elected to bat.
The hosts, however, made regular inroads to find themselves in a comfortable position at the end of the day.
Earlier, the start of play was delayed by about 50 minutes due to bad light.
The heavy cloud cover held up play much to the disappointment of 5000-odd spectators who had come to watch the Pakistanis on their first visit to India in six years.
And when play finally got underway, heavy drizzle forced suspension with less than three overs bowled.
It was only after close to an hour after scheduled lunch that the sun came out for the first time in the day and some real action was possible.
Butt and Umar were in excellent touch as they drove seamers Rudra Pratap Singh and Gagandeep Singh effortlessly.
The two left-handers had full support of the locals who cheered every boundary they hit.
Butt, whose confidence was high after a classy century against Australia, found his first boundary with an elegant cover drive off R P Singh. He struck two more from the other end to seize the initiative.
The scoring rate reached alarming levels when host captain Mohammad Kaif turned to Ramesh Powar, the Mumbai off-spinner who had been among the wickets this season.
And the trick did work. Off the last ball of Powar's first over, Umar played it to square leg and seemed to settle for a single. Butt called for an ambitious second and was promptly sent back, but it was too late to beat Venugopala Rao's throw.
Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.
Yousuf Youhana (18) announced his arrival with two meaty blows off Powar on the on side. But what promised to be an entertaining innings was cut short when Shib Shankar Paul found his inside edge.
Parthiv Patel, who had fumbled a couple of takes earlier, made no mistake and took a tumbling catch forward.
R P Singh resumed his second spell from the opposite end and tasted success immediately when he had Umar caught bat pad by Kaif at forward short leg.
Thanks to those two dismissals immediately after the tea break, Pakistan slipped to 83 for four and found themselves on the backfoot.
Butthe second string Indian attack posed little problems for Inzamam. He pulled R P Singh effortlessly to midwicket fence, and then cut and drove him on the off side, forcing Kaif to take him out of the attack.
Asim Kamal, whom the Indians will remember for his nerves of steel during the series last year, was equally adept at hooking Paul over backward square-leg. Later, he struck the Bengal pacer for two straight driven fours in the same over.
By now the cloud cover had lifted, giving a full view of the snowy peaks and the clear blue sky was visible for the first time in days.
The batsmen seemed to as much relish the sunshine as they stepped up the tempo.
The left-handed Kamal lofted Venugopala Rao to long on to bring up the 150. And Inzamam's every shot was reason for the crowd to cheer his 35th birthday.
Sadly, the Pakistan captain could make only as many runs.
And ending the 72-run partnership was the same lollypop off spin of the Andhra player when Inzamam played a reckless sweep and missed to be leg before wicket.
Scorecard
Pakistan (1st innings):
S Butt run out 21
T Umar c Kaif b R P Singh 37
Younis Khan c Jadhav b Gagandeep Singh 0
Y Youhana c Patel b Paul 18
Inzamam-ul-Haq lbw Rao 35
A Kamal batting 43
A Razzaq batting 2
Extras: ((b-5, lb-2, nb-2): 9
Total: (for 5 wickets in 45 overs) 165
Fall of wickets: 1-54, 2-55, 3-83, 4-83, 5-155.
Bowling: R P Singh 13-3-50-1, Gagandeep 15-3-40-1, Ramesh Powar 4-0-22-0, SS Paul 8-2-23-1, Venugopala Rao 5-0-23-1.
:-D :-D
I didnt mean to provide so much excitement to AJ - promise !
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:14
MIG, people seem to think am outspoken on YK. to me it comes down to one things.
1) potential - YK is a talented player but an average off 39 is poor in my eyes for sum1 of his quality. bowlers off today in test cricket are off a poor standard compared to 4/5 years ago. look at how many batsmen are cashing in now a days, strauss, kallis to name a few... when in form 100 after 100 comes.
with YK? it 40 here, 60 there, then a 20
is that justifying talent or cashing in on form?
(b4 any1 says what did such and such do where talking about just YK)
any1 who has seen YK career can see number of times this guys got a start and then puff hes gone...!
All this talk about VC skipper is fine but uve gota take bull by horns.
I dont rate inzi as a skipper, but one thing ive always said is he leads from front with bat in "tests" but is poor in field.
YK is all being portrayed on his good team man skills
sadly u got prove urself worthy off the accolade to play 1st!
Funnily enough, AJ, I agree with YK - I really like him but he is letting himself down badly - Fact of the matter is that he will have place in the 1st test - its a given - I just hope for Paks sake he gets some halwa bowling to start with or else he will be made qeema of ! ( I used cooking analogies for your sake! )
Geordie Ahmed
3rd March 2005, 13:20
MIG who decides that Halwa describes poor bowling??? why cant halwa bowling mean world class bowling???
I like Halwa, i think its very very good!
:-)
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:21
MIG, ive justed added to the AJ thread on time pass section.
2day is 1st anniversary of me being here.
the problem with YK is he comes to the party has 1 dance and seems happy, where as others seem to party the whole night and make full worth of what oppurtunity they have been given.
if YK does well and fufills his potential i would be very happy as it wud benefit pakistan side.
sadly people just always see things as just criticism!
MIG who decides that Halwa describes poor bowling??? why cant halwa bowling mean world class bowling???
I like Halwa, i think its very very good!
:-)
Ya know what I mean, when I bowl to my son, he calls it Halwa and then smacks it over the wall for six.....
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:30
how bigs the wall?
high enough - actually where we live, the next door neighbour has a mini zoo with ducks, geese, gazelles, turkeys !! Everytime the ball goes over ( six) , there is a mini stampede!
Flirta-P
3rd March 2005, 13:35
Im startin 2 fink Younis khan is more overated then sami now
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 13:35
high enough - actually where we live, the next door neighbour has a mini zoo with ducks, geese, gazelles, turkeys !! Everytime the ball goes over ( six) , there is a mini stampede!
:oD :oD
DesiMD
3rd March 2005, 13:39
Good Luck Pakistan!!!
Hitman Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:04 pm
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It's OK. I have found the discussion thread
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Amjid Javed Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:05 pm
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razzaq as 3rd seamer and 4th bowler is a joke!
if this is test attack then its poor 4th selection!
4 bowlers(including razzaq) is asking for a beating!
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1.6 B Lee to Shahid Afridi, OUT: nope, the Afridi law of rarely being able to score more than his age remains, spoons it high over the bowler, mid on runs around to take a safe catch
Naveed
3rd March 2005, 14:36
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!
YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 14:37
Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!
YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.
I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
Naveed
3rd March 2005, 14:41
Pakistani batsmen slip on captain's birthday
March 03 2005 at 03:49PM
Dharamsala, India - Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq had little to cheer about on his birthday as his batsman floundered against pace in a practice match ahead of a Test series against India on Thursday.
Pakistan were wobbling at 83/4 against a Board President's team before reaching 165/5 in their first innings at stumps on the opening day of a three-day game.
Inzamam, who turned 35 on Thursday, steadied the innings with a 72-run stand for the fifth wicket with Asim Kamal (43 not out) but was dismissed when looking well-set.
The Pakistani captain made a fluent 35 before falling leg-before while attempting to sweep off-spinner Venugopala Rao.
Pacemen Gagandeep Singh, Rudra Pratap Singh and Shib Shankar Paul rattled Pakistan's top order as they shared three wickets to put the tourists on the back foot after Inzamam had won the toss in overcast conditions.
Just 45 overs were completed due to bad light and drizzle at the Dharamshala Cricket Stadium, hosting its first-ever international match.
But the tourists failed to make the most of their only warm-up game before the opening Test of a three-match series against India, starting at Mohali on March 8.
Pakistan were off to a solid start on a slow pitch as left-handed openers Taufeeq Umar and Salman Butt put on 54 runs in 11 overs.
The slide began when Butt was run out for 21 following a mix-up with Umar. The tourists then lost three wickets in the space of 29 runs.
Pakistan vice-captain Younis Khan was dismissed off the first ball, brilliantly caught by Dheeraj Jadhav off Gangandeep.
Reliable middle-order batsman Yousuf Youhana (18) excecuted a couple of handsome shots before inside-edging a Paul delivery to wicket-keeper Parthiv Patel.
Umar (37) had been looking confident during his 99-minute stay at the crease before giving a bat-pad catch to skipper Mohammad Kaif at short mid-wicket.
Inzamam and Kamal then propped up the innings with their sensible knocks, but Pakistan's batting still left a lot to be desired ahead of the Test series.
Pakistan will also play six one-day international on their tour of India, their first in six years
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 14:42
MIG, u like my new sig ;-) :-D
Naveed
3rd March 2005, 14:42
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!
YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.
I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
Sure but it's just a damn tour match!
Naveed
3rd March 2005, 14:43
I mean last year Pathan got walloped in the Indian warm-up match; did that really matter?
MIG, u like my new sig ;-) :-D
:oD :oD :oD :oD
Ya nasty man !!
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 14:44
yeah, pathan learnt form his mistakes...!
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!
YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.
I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
Sure but it's just a damn tour match!
True but the only warmup and if as a Pak supporter, you are looking for signs/omens - well it doesnt help
However, the real matches are ahead and I do expect him to play an important role.
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 14:50
Naveed, the duck jibe was a joke.
But lets get serious. YK is a senior player, and yes he did partially well in Australia, but where did he cash in on his good form? where did he lead from front?
if this guys VC and a senior, then hes got show more responsability, alot of fans WIY, gary etc .. keep touting him as taking inzis batting spot etc when he retires etc...
sadly YK doesnt have the ability in terms off application or tempremant 2 fill that spot. YK has alot off talent but doesnt seem 2 justify it.
its time he stepped up fully.. in Australia, he was always batting well with sum1 else YY or S butt etc.. but when it came to YK time to lead from front once sum1 had got out.. he went missing.
time for YK to step up from support batsmen to major batsmen and very soon...
Flirta-P
3rd March 2005, 15:12
Sorry but pathan was bowlin 2 decent batsmen such as imran nazir, taufeeq umar n if im not wrong didnt butt play in that match where as who on gods earth are these bowlers pakistan were gettin out to so really u cant compare some very average indian team 2 the pakistan a team which had many players who can still smack pathan all over the pitch
Amir_rulez
3rd March 2005, 15:17
Im sure YK will perform better in the next innings. Good to see Kamal doing well. He got 43 off 69 balls. If he proves that he can play his innings a little faster, he might get a chance in ODI's too. And i dont think that will be a bad idea. Im sure we atleast wont be witnessing 3 for 17 runs or 3 for 39 runs. He has the ability to give the game a finishing touch.
I wish Malik could make it to the test team as well.
Flirta-P
3rd March 2005, 15:39
If he can speed up his run rate a lil he wud be best for number 3 position but by doin this u will have 2 reshuffle the whole team again n thers been more then enuff of that.
octavian
3rd March 2005, 17:40
I agree with Amjid on the YK thing...but you have to name his replacement. Who would you select if he is dropped?
Amir Bashir ??
scifinite
3rd March 2005, 18:12
Hasan raza! or Aamer Bashir
pakistani pride
3rd March 2005, 18:21
younis will prove amjid wrong in the tests !
BTW we shuld have bowled first not batted ! but its a practice game perhaps they wanted to see the batsmen
Amjid Javed
3rd March 2005, 19:28
younis will prove amjid wrong in the tests !
BTW we shuld have bowled first not batted ! but its a practice game perhaps they wanted to see the batsmen
if he does well good for pakistan, thats what i hope.
pakistani pride
3rd March 2005, 20:04
he can do it . We just need to give him a good run at 3
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 21:30
Here's the deal. Younis Khan is playing the three test matches period. Now argue, debate do as you please...but he will play. Pointless exercise I would say.
Second, using Amjid's argument on Hameed and why he can't be dropped (he scored 2 50s) there is no way YK can be dropped either. He has been the highest run getter entire season ! (5 test matches) How can you drop him?
Schiller
3rd March 2005, 22:03
any one know how Umar played?
Officer Barbrady
3rd March 2005, 22:23
He got 37 off 72, according to the reports he looked in very good touch. Got out in unusual fashion -- inside edge onto pad caught at mid on off a seamer. Should have gone on though.
Kamal gone on 43
lbw by the brutal SS Paul
Kamran already 8 off 4 deliveries. 2 FOURS
Naveed
4th March 2005, 03:18
Kamal gone on 43
lbw by the brutal SS Paul
As Amjid would say, drop Kamal. He needs to take responsability and convert his starts into centuries.
Toony™®
4th March 2005, 04:01
228/6
razzaq 31 not out
akmal 34 not out
Lightning
4th March 2005, 04:16
Pakistan is not really trying here as they are saving their game and all their strength for the real stuff.
akmal , sami, rana all go quickly in succession
256/9
razzaq 50
danish 0
273 all out
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zulfiqar
4th March 2005, 04:57
razzaq playd very well.. 2 6's means he was hitting out while he had weak partners at other end (unlike in aus :D).
Poor scoring from top order.. but ther were some positives in Taufeeq and Kamal. THe reason i'm not including Razzaq on that list is because he's chosen as our 4th specialist bowler for thsi series and he has to take wickets with the ball or else his runs will have been useless
Toony™®
4th March 2005, 04:59
will pak lose this match??....with 5 sessions left??...
anything can happen wid pakistan...ask western australia. :|v
Toony™®
4th March 2005, 05:01
1/0 after 1 over wid sami opening the bowling.
Bailan
4th March 2005, 05:28
where can i get hold of some commentry ?
So will the bits and pieces brigade now explain if Razzaq becomes and automatic selection for the tests based on this performance - since YK should not be playing as he has failed.....
Be glad that we dont have to take that decision here !
Bailan
4th March 2005, 05:58
Rana getting dispatched all over the ground from the apprent looks of things ...
Bailan
4th March 2005, 05:59
and he picks up a wicket .... .
#($)*#@)($ amazing !
Waqar's inswinging yorker
4th March 2005, 05:59
rana!!!!
Awesome Anjum
4th March 2005, 06:05
rana cleans up Parab
Officer Barbrady
4th March 2005, 06:07
Rana jee zindabad
Officer Barbrady
4th March 2005, 06:08
So will the bits and pieces brigade now explain if Razzaq becomes and automatic selection for the tests based on this performance - since YK should not be playing as he has failed.....
Be glad that we dont have to take that decision here !
No, I would judge him on his bowling performance. If he does really well then I guess he can stay. If not either Arshad or Khalil should replace him for the first test.
Officer Barbrady
4th March 2005, 06:09
Some good shots by Taufeeq in the highlights. Wah wah what a talent.
People say he doesn't have shots?
Waqar's inswinging yorker
4th March 2005, 06:16
marooned u being sarcastic? coz i really rate taufeeq and have said he could play in odi too once settled with salman at the top. PPl's arguments for him not to be included in odi team were he is too defensive and doesnt have the shots , but he has the shots!!!
Officer Barbrady
4th March 2005, 06:33
Yes WIY, he has enough shots for a test player and he looks classy when in flow. There were a few who said his only strength was his temperament which is not quite true.
Sami's last over: 4 N. 4 3 2 L4
This is not a good sign !
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samis back to his old self with a 18 run over
theres a reason why his test average is 47
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now a 14 run over from razzaq
for all u shoaib haters ....
Officer Barbrady
4th March 2005, 06:41
No it's Razzak.
Waqar's inswinging yorker
4th March 2005, 07:07
kashif - that shoaib haters remark is a brit broad. What would u deem a shoaib hater? i'm a shoaib hater, a hater of his attitude, i believe no pakistan fan would criticise his performances if his attitude was right.
also why is shoaib not there? not because he was dropped at the behest of the "haters" but merely because HE declared himslef unfit
zulfiqar
4th March 2005, 07:28
ok guys come on! Let's not say "if only shoaib was here" until after 1st test match. remember, he wasn't dropped, he's being held back because of an injury!
anyway, rana bowling very well on paper! N selectors finding out why we don't want razzaq in test team... also, razzaq can't replace yk as a test batsman i feel.. its' better to play hameed or malik even! But YK hasn't done much wrong, i'm sure hew ill get another chance in 1st test.
This team looks alright except that Razzaq will go out and another pacer should come in! I'd give khalil a chance over razzaq, but if khalil fails in 1st test, we won't see him again for rest of the tests.
badxhah
4th March 2005, 07:41
Plus i think he shud have let Arshad also play in this match.One reason he will be playing Intl Cricket after 5 yrs
Amjid Javed
4th March 2005, 08:30
Pakistanis 273
Indian Board President's XI 91/1
bad light stopped play
Bowling O M R W
Mohammad Sami 6 0 28 0
Naved-ul-Hasan 8 4 17 1
Abdul Razzaq 5.2 0 34 0
Danish Kaneria 3 0 8 0
powerpuff attack struggling here
waquas_uk
4th March 2005, 12:15
razzaq can be used as a third seamer if you remember just recently he took 5 wickets against sri lanka when shoiab or sami werent playing he said that he knew he had to up his game becuase he was heavily relied upon. i think hes third bowler quialty
pakistani pride
4th March 2005, 12:40
then he need to show it tomorrow cause today he was treated badly....................
sajjad
4th March 2005, 14:28
pakistan getting a thrashing early in the tour
i hope this acts as a wakeup call
Flirta-P
4th March 2005, 23:31
This might sound ludarcis but pakistan should take a risk on shahid afridi i really think the batting conditions and indian bowling would really be 2 his liking yh i no every1 fink he dnt have the temperment but play him in the lower order so he dnt face the new ball it might work becuase wen he played in tests before he was openin that might of been his downfall. Jus take a risk thats all it cud go sour if it does well den we jus expected it 2 happen but if it pays of every1 will go on afridi mania.
Agreed Flirta-P, and i dont even think it's a risk playing him. Imo he should be an automatic choice in the Tests as well as the ODIs, especially on these tracks Vs these types of bowlers.
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 02:45
this is the first and last time im gonna sya it..include shahid in the first test....
NOOOOOOO..IV SAID THE UNSAYABLE!!! :oD
mumtaz
5th March 2005, 03:11
i think razzaq is only there for the first test due to the expected pitch at mohali although i still have my doubts about the wicket that is eventually going to turn out, remember the hue and cry raised by ganguly during australia's tour when they had a green-top at nagpur. the result was a dustbowl at mumbai in the last test.
so if the same thing happens at mohali, we may yet see arshad or afridi in the final XI.
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 03:18
has the match started yet? its already past 4 GMT...and cricinfo still hasn't updated
overnight rain has delayed the start
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 03:28
where did u get this information kashif?
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 04:30
they're saying play might not start until tea...
i think the indian board planned this purposely...they put is in the crapiest of all places just so that we could be starved of match practise and so be forced to play with a rusty squad at mohali..
Officer Barbrady
5th March 2005, 04:45
Why did we agree?
"they're saying play might not start until tea...
i think the indian board planned this purposely...they put is in the crapiest of all places just so that we could be starved of match practise and so be forced to play with a rusty squad at mohali.."
typical bhindian tactics, what a bunch of cowards
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 06:22
Why did we agree?
because...
SHAHRYAR KHAN IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!! :oD :oD :oD :oD
Amjid Javed
5th March 2005, 07:59
latest --> Indian Board President's XI 120/1 (34.0 ov)
jadav and kaif both on 49
I think I need to have a "hard talk" with Mr. Shaharyar Khan!
Amjid Javed
5th March 2005, 08:18
bad light stopped play looks like games gona end now.
tahaqureshi
5th March 2005, 09:03
AND THE WINNER IS....
NOBODY!!! after weeks of anitcipation in this highly talked about match, we have a decisive winner :oD
Amjid Javed
5th March 2005, 12:40
niether razzaq or afridi shud be in the side.
we need 4 front line bowlers... u need 20 wkts to win a test sadly alot of people think just as stupidly as Bob woolmer and inzi....!
Well the players have been "sold short" by the PCB once again. Having only accepted one warm up match in a remote location, this has resulted in the players being ill prepared for the first test.
Time and again the PCB dont do the players any favours at all with thier lack of foresight and planning.
Amjid Javed
5th March 2005, 12:57
saj, with work load "other test teams" have they tend to ask for short heavily packed tours with no practice matches at all.
sadly pakistan dont play much test cricket and yes 1 warm up match is a joke. so there not in same situation as other nations.
pakistan can ill afford to be behind the 8 ball in this series from word go.
AJ, ok one warm up match in one of the main centres in India fair enough, but to agree to one in such a remote location with predictably bad weather - well only the PCB would agree to something like that.
Amjid Javed
5th March 2005, 14:57
i agree fully, conditions are also gona be completely different. the wicket was a seamers paradise yet come test wicket it will be slow and low.
thats PCB for you sadly!
lack of match practise for pak but we will still will win tests 3-0 and ODI 6-0
pakistani pride
5th March 2005, 20:31
true amjid they have not had a fully practice game bit in the end it comes down to the tests and then they have to deliver !
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