Shahid Afridi Punches a fan at Karachi Airport!! (See post 17 for the Video) [Archive] - Page 2 - PakPassion

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:08

Ok. It's not easy to work out scenarios.lol

Once she's safe would you just walk away?

You said he is an ambassador, does being a father not come first?

I fear that you are steering the thread towards general parenting.

This thread is specifically about Afridi and the video showing throw two punches towards two fans and threaten to slap another.

There is no horrible man in the video. If you apply logic and if Afridi is telling the truth then it is likely the girl got pushed by a group of excited fans.

Where did Afridi take responsibility as a father by holding his daughter or working with her, or showing concern in case she was injured.

What is the justification for assaulting two people and threatening to assault another?

Savak

23rd March 2012, 23:08

We need to learn to love and respect our heroes.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:10

In one of the videos, you can hear Afridi say that 'there are kids here.' (After he beats up (or attempts to beat up) the fans),

That being said, I don't think that guy would have come back and 'crushed' his daughter again. It was more of a 'hustle and bustle' type of thing, not intentional 'stepping on the child's toes'

That makes the incident even more disgraceful. His daughter may of got pushed so he assaults two members of public and threatens to slap another. All the attacks appear random and fuelled with rage.

Clearly Afridi's daughter was not seriously hurt or needed medical attention otherwise the Afridi spin doctors would have released this information.

This was a mindless thug attack for somebody who appears to be above the law.

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:11

Ok. It's not easy to work out scenarios.lol

We can work it out. Do you have children?

Once she's safe would you just walk away?

If she was safe, Afridi wouldn't have punched the guy.

You said he is an ambassador, does being a father not come first?

Being a father comes first, therefore the protection of your child comes first, therefore holding your child in your arms comes first, its natural instinct. This behaviour is led by example, thus being an ambassador. Leaving your child behind is not ambassadorial.

Do you have any children? Yes or no? I am speaking from a parent’s perceptive, real life experience. What about you?

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:11

The guy has confessed as to being in the wrong, that would usually hold up in any court of law. :) Read the thread.

SO what did this guy actually confess to? Asking for an autograph or delivering a roundhouse kick to Afridi's daughter?

Oh and by the way, which guy was it since Afridi randomly assaulted to members of public and threatened to slap another?

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:12

I fear that you are steering the thread towards general parenting.

This thread is specifically about Afridi and the video showing throw two punches towards two fans and threaten to slap another.

There is no horrible man in the video. If you apply logic and if Afridi is telling the truth then it is likely the girl got pushed by a group of excited fans.

Where did Afridi take responsibility as a father by holding his daughter or working with her, or showing concern in case she was injured.

What is the justification for assaulting two people and threatening to assault another?

He's a father who just saw his child after a lengthy time. He obviously realised she was in distress and realised who the man was who caused this. In a moment of rage he gave a boom boom to the man, not that hard to figure out really. lol

I would do the same, if I fely my child was in danger by from an uncivilised mob I would give them a few smacks too, sometimes this is the only langauge which works. :)

23rd March 2012, 23:13

Look at the way Angelina Jolie is carrying her two children and holding the hand of her third one to avoid kids bumping into the paparazzi guys. There are millions of different examples of high profile public figures protecting their children from media and fan frenzy situations.

http://www.x17online.com/AJOLIEPAX092007_09.jpg

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:14

He's a father who just saw his child after a lengthy time.

That's even worse. If I saw my daughters after a long time I would hold both of them in my arms.

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:14

We need to learn to love and respect our heroes.

.. And proffesional cricketers should learn to keep their hands to themselves.

How can you expect everyone to learn to love and respect Afridi after he physically attacked a fan for something he didn't mean to do?

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:14

We can work it out. Do you have children?

Im not interesting in sharing my personal life on public forum such as this. I'm sure you respect this.

If she was safe, Afridi wouldn't have punched the guy.

Why not?

Being a father comes first, therefore the protection of your child comes first, therefore holding your child in your arms comes first, its natural instinct. This behaviour is led by example, thus being an ambassador. Leaving your child behind is not ambassadorial.

Thank you so the being an ambassador doesn't even come into it in such a moment of rage.

Zaz

23rd March 2012, 23:14

She shouldnt have been left amongst a crowd of people

She shouldve been waiting in the car or safe in the arms of afridi or a family member What kind of parenting is this? It was always going to happen in a crowd of people

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:15

He's a father who just saw his child after a lengthy time. He obviously realised she was in distress and realised who the man was who caused this. In a moment of rage he gave a boom boom to the man, not that hard to figure out really. lol

I would do the same, if I fely my child was in danger by from an uncivilised mob I would give them a few smacks too, sometimes this is the only langauge which works. :)

I again ask what has made you believe that the above is factually correct?!

How do you know how long it has been since he has seen his daughter and how do you know that the 3 year old was in distress?

Oh and you again talk about a 'moment of rage' and he gave 'boom boom' to a man but can you explain why he assaulted two people with closed fist strikes and threatened to slap another?

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:15

That's even worse. If I saw my daughters after a long time I would hold both of them in my arms.

He saw her in distress. If you did wouldn't you be angry?

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:16

Im not interesting in sharing my personal life on public forum such as this. I'm sure you respect this.

I take that as a no then.

Thank you so the being an ambassador doesn't even come into it in such a moment of rage.

Thank me for what? Being a father is to be a role model, an ambassador.

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:17

He saw her in distress. If you did wouldn't you be angry?

I wouldn't put my child in that position in the first place. This is the point.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:17

Come on KingKhanWC - you are seasoned enough on PakPassion. You need to lose the habit of avoiding questions that don't suit your agenda!

violet_may

23rd March 2012, 23:17

@Waq: Yes, I agree that he went on a bit of a rage, but I believe his story that his daughter was perhaps pushed around/some dude stepped on her toes, listening to that video on YT where he says 'there are kids here.' I don't agree with his reaction, I would have picked up my child away from the 'hustling' crowd, not go around throwing punches at people in the crowd/threatening them with slaps, potentially making the situation worse and further causing trampling to occur (I am guessing his daughter was behind him and that would be worse for her if the crowd, as a result of his antics, ended up running over/crushed her).

If anything, he should have been punching the people behind him but that being said, I don't know where his daughter was standing.

I think he just reacted without thinking, it happens. He did apologize after, that has to count for something. At first I thought, "Oh my God, this guy has gone mental!" until I saw the whole thing and more news info came out.

Come to think of it, Afridi, out of all the people, I doubt would treat his fans in this manner intentionally, to be quite frank. He is what he is because of these devoted fans. :afridi

He shouldn't have gone after some of those standing there though, I agree with you on that part.

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:18

I again ask what has made you believe that the above is factually correct?!

Again, the guy has admitted to it. lol You think he's lying?

How do you know how long it has been since he has seen his daughter and how do you know that the 3 year old was in distress?

She came to the airport to meet him coming from Bangladesh. How many days did the tournament last? As for distress, again she was physically hurt.

Oh and you again talk about a 'moment of rage' and he gave 'boom boom' to a man but can you explain why he assaulted two people with closed fist strikes and threatened to slap another?

He obviously wanted all of the unruly mob to get away.

23rd March 2012, 23:19

I would do the same, if I fely my child was in danger by from an uncivilised mob I would give them a few smacks too, sometimes this is the only langauge which works. :)

In UK or any other Western country, the chances are you'll be the one getting in trouble by the police for not taking the law into your hands but more importantly getting violent at public place, causing a scene over a pure accident which caused no serious harm or injury in anyway! The officers might give you a one or two tips at parenting also. So good luck with that.

So be proud of the fact that only 'uncivilized' country like Pakistan you can get away with something like that, not just get away with but hailed to death.

DeadlyVenom

23rd March 2012, 23:19

Come to think of it, Afridi, out of all the people, I doubt would treat his fans in this manner intentionally, to be quite frank. :afridi

having met him in real life, he's arrogant and thinks a lot of himself. He doesn't care much about fans in my experience.

Compared to other players anyway.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:20

Yes, I agree that he went on a bit of a rage, but I believe his story that his daughter was perhaps pushed around/some dude stepped on her toes, listening to the video on YT. I don't agree with his reaction, I would have picked up my child away from the 'hustling' crowd, not go around throwing punches at random people in the crowd/threatening them with slaps, potentially making the situation worse and further causing trampling to occur (I am guessing his daughter was behind him and that would be worse for her if the crowd, as a result of his antics, ended up running over/crushed her).

If anything, he should have been punching the people behind him but that being said, I don't know where his daughter was standing.

I think he just reacted without thinking, it happens. He did apologize after, that has to count for something. At first I thought, "Oh my God, this guy has gone mental!" until I saw the whole thing and more news info came out.

Come to think of it, Afridi, out of all the people, I doubt would treat his fans in this manner intentionally, to be quite frank. :afridi

He should spend the night in a police cell so that he is taught a lesson that he is not above the law and then be made to face the courts. These fans are likely to be poor and not from powerful backgrounds but that gives Afridi no right to act as a thug.

Everything else with regards to his daughter appears to be damage limitation. He was already fuming before the assaults and it was inevitable that it was going to happen.

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:20

I take that as a no then.

Take it as you wish.

Thank me for what? Being a father is to be a role model, an ambassador.

Not to Pakistan it's not. Being a father comes first over being an ambassodor of Pakistan, which you wrote.

I wouldn't put my child in that position in the first place. This is the point.

Sure, I agree but I doubt he was expecting a hooligan to hurt his child.

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:20

Come to think of it, Afridi, out of all the people, I doubt would treat his fans in this manner intentionally, to be quite frank. :afridi

... Well, he's had similiar issues before with fans where he threatened them - it was only a matter of time till we saw him for once actually physically launching an attack on a fellow fan.

Also, perhaps there's been more incidents which we or the media are not aware of, who knows?

Ruri

23rd March 2012, 23:21

TLDR on the entire thread. But by reading cricinfo article, and the like, if his daughter was truly harmed, or even pushed aside, I applaud Afridi wholeheartedly. I don't even like the guy, and I think that's an acceptable reason if he was being honest.

I don't have kids, but I have an adorable goddaughter that I see a fair bit, and if she was being pushed around while waiting for me in the airport, I would knock these idiots out.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:23

Again, the guy has admitted to it. lol You think he's lying?

She came to the airport to meet him coming from Bangladesh. How many days did the tournament last? As for distress, again she was physically hurt.

He obviously wanted all of the unruly mob to get away.

How do you know that the 3 year old was physically hurt?

Where was this unruly mob? I saw nothing different from the norm, when a player is spotted in Pakistan and you still think it justifies assaulting three people?

You should get the status of Lala Land President for your support!

Tapori

23rd March 2012, 23:25

... Well, he's had similiar issues before with fans where he threatened them - it was only a matter of time till we saw him for once actually physically launching an attack on a fellow fan.

Also, perhaps there's been more incidents which we or the media are not aware of, who knows?

And yet no-one is asking why fans are allowed to essentially treat people like Afridi as Amusements at a a fair ground.

Security have alot to answer for, the media and public should look at themselves; It was only a matter of time.

Luckily, :yk during his media frenzy spell, decided to go fishing and not tell anyone...

:yk

violet_may

23rd March 2012, 23:25

having met him in real life, he's arrogant and thinks a lot of himself. He doesn't care much about fans in my experience.

Compared to other players anyway.

Sorry to hear that. Really sucks when this kind of thing happens. Yes, I have heard similar things from other people, while others have said good things.

Well I will be seeing that match when he comes to Toronto, let's see how he treats the fans there :afridi

Tapori

23rd March 2012, 23:26

Just wait until the Paparazzi in India and Pakistan grow stronger; You'll be seeing alot more of these fisticuffs.

The media of course, won't mind a bit. TRP. TRP...

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:26

Not to Pakistan it's not. Being a father comes first over being an ambassodor of Pakistan, which you wrote.

An ambassador representing his country wouldn’t make a school boy error by forcing his THREE year old daughter to walk in his shadows. What kind of example is this?

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:27

How do you know that the 3 year old was physically hurt?

She was pushed/stepped on. Even if she isn't hurt badly(thank god) she would have had some type of physical pain not to mention mental trauma.

Where was this unruly mob? I saw nothing different from the norm, when a player is spotted in Pakistan and you still think it justifies assaulting three people?

You should get the status of Lala Land President for your support!

Your being silly now. He didn't start assaulting people for no reason. lol

Thanks, I might just apply. :afridi

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:27

And yet no-one is asking why fans are allowed to essentially treat people like Afridi as Amusements at a a fair ground.

Security have alot to answer for, the media and public should look at themselves; It was only a matter of time.

Luckily, :yk during his media frenzy spell, decided to go fishing and not tell anyone...

:yk

There are clearly 3 minders of sorts surrounding Afridi. I am not sure if they are family/friends, police/security or hired goons but they should of been able to assess the crowd and advise Afridi to carry his daughter or leave her in the car.

Afridi is not a youngster who is facing these sorts of crowds for the first time. Not sure how many more security there were present.

DeadlyVenom

23rd March 2012, 23:28

Sorry to hear that. Really sucks when this kind of thing happens. Yes, I have heard similar things from other people, while others have said good things.

Well I will be seeing that match when he comes to Toronto, let's see how he treats the fans there :afridi

funny thing was that he was paid to be there and still acted like a tool :))

23rd March 2012, 23:29

Literally all mega famous Athletes and Celebs in the West have their own bodyguards, the government does not send out extra police force every time Beckham is out with his kids.

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:29

What in UK police would not have allowed a child triping over at the crowded airport or tube station?

They need to send some serious police force at London stations because we all get pushed around so much and every now and them someone loses their balance and shoves the next person along with himself.

lol, come on pal.

In the same scenario when a famous public fugiure or celeb is protected once he arrives out of an airport. The Pakistani police failed here,

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:31

An ambassador representing his country wouldn’t make a school boy error by forcing his THREE year old daughter to walk in his shadows. What kind of example is this?

Beside the point NH. You wrote earlier he is an ambassoder of Pakistan but I told you being a parent comes before this or any other public role. The point has been settled.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:33

She was pushed/stepped on. Even if she isn't hurt badly(thank god) she would have had some type of physical pain not to mention mental trauma.

Your being silly now. He didn't start assaulting people for no reason. lol

Thanks, I might just apply. :afridi

Lol, what mental trauma or physical pain. Stop making things up that you know nothing about!

Of course he assaulted 3 people for no reason. All 3 of the men could not have pushed his daughter as two of the victims were in front of him and one victim was behind him. This was nothing but a mindless thug assault.

I will describe the incident in a different way. A fortnight ago, me and my wife and two children were going to go on a train into London.

I dropped my wife and kids at the station entrance and then drove to the station car park to park the car. When I entered the station, my 4 year old was crying as a man had bumped into him causing him pain. My wife then explained that it was a man next to the ticket office who knocked him over and did not even stop to see if he was ok or apologise.

I was not very happy but did not go and thrown a punch at him. As much as I hated my son being distressed, he should of not been allowed to play next to the automatic doors. It happens.

MalikMohsin

23rd March 2012, 23:33

My brother has informed me about this. Thank God, his daughter is okay, All Praises belong to Allaah (SWT).

I am not father yet, but anyone can lose the temper after seeing the kid in this position. I am sure he knows by now this was the honest mistake from the guy who got punched, according to the report. Allahu Alim!

Kid shouldn't be in the crowd like this, and i got lost several times in the crowd in the past, and Thank to Allaah, i somehow got founded, and then, like any kid, who would face desi 'love' from desi parents - my way of sugercoating it. :julien

Then, father shouldn't have done this in the front of the kid. Why not get the kid back to the car safe, and then, get your business done. :afridi

Anyhow, thank to Allaah, she is okay.

As Salaamu Alaykum!

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:36

Lol, what mental trauma or physical pain. Stop making things up that you know nothing about!

Of course he assaulted 3 people for no reason. All 3 of the men could not have pushed his daughter as two of the victims were in front of him and one victim was behind him. This was nothing but a mindless thug assault.

lol First you didn't believe the guy who has admitted fault and said sorry and know you think his daughter wouldn' t have suffered in any way from this incident.

Your entitled to your opinion, most on here say they would have done the same. I'll leave it here since I'm off to apply for Lala land, this man has gone up in my estimation. :afridi.

Your personal scenario holds no merit here.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:37

lol First you didn't believe the guy who has admitted fault and said sorry and know you think his daughter wouldn' t have suffered in any way from this incident.

Your entitled to your opinion, most on here say they would have done the same. I'll leave it here since I'm off to apply for Lala land, this man has gone up in my estimation. :afridi.

Your personal scenario holds no merit here.

What has the assaulted victim admitted to exactly? Have you got a source or a link - it would be helpful as you have already made up stuff on this thread to support your argument.

Ruri

23rd March 2012, 23:38

There are clearly 3 minders of sorts surrounding Afridi. I am not sure if they are family/friends, police/security or hired goons but they should of been able to assess the crowd and advise Afridi to carry his daughter or leave her in the car.

Afridi is not a youngster who is facing these sorts of crowds for the first time. Not sure how many more security there were present.

Perhaps, but let's say that he didn't think of it at this time.

You should never knock over a kid, in such a mob. Dear god, I've been at packed concerts and if there's a young 10 year old kid, even the drunk teens will make sure not to jostle him. If Afridi put his daughter in a position like that, it's a mistake by his part. But, the fault lies with the crowd. I don't care if they're illiterate and poor. They shouldn't be stupid on top of it to hurt a kid.

And honestly, lets put it this way.

If:

A) He's telling the truth. Go on Afridi, go on and do what you need to do to protect your kid, or to get her back. Bruise a few guys, push them into walls, I don't care. Your kid >>>> some stupid stupid fan that thinks an autograph, or a touch of Afridi is worth more than the safety of a kid.

B) He's lying. You're a terrible person Afridi for being stupid for no reason then, and even worse for using your daughter in such a lie.

And that's where it stands.

zaid65

23rd March 2012, 23:38

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:40

Perhaps, but let's say that he didn't think of it at this time.

You should never knock over a kid, in such a mob. Dear god, I've been at packed concerts and if there's a young 10 year old kid, even the drunk teens will make sure not to jostle him. If Afridi put his daughter in a position like that, it's a mistake by his part. But, the fault lies with the crowd. I don't care if they're illiterate and poor. They shouldn't be stupid on top of it to hurt a kid.

And honestly, lets put it this way.

If:

A) He's telling the truth. Go on Afridi, go on and do what you need to do to protect your kid, or to get her back. Bruise a few guys, push them into walls, I don't care. Your kid >>>> some stupid stupid fan that thinks an autograph, or a touch of Afridi is worth more than the safety of a kid.

B) He's lying. You're a terrible person Afridi for being stupid for no reason then, and even worse for using your daughter in such a lie.

And that's where it stands.

There is actually an option C, which would be a much more acceptable and sensible thing to do. If you can be bothered then read some of my posts on this thread and all will become clear.

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:40

Beside the point NH. You wrote earlier he is an ambassoder of Pakistan but I told you being a parent comes before this or any other public role. The point has been settled.

No it’s not beside the point and the point has not been settled just because you say so. Had you been a father you’d realise being a father means to be an ambassador for YOUR FAMILY too!

Get it?

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:41

I can't even believe people are trying to defend him with the daughter's argument.

First of all let's buy this argument( which is still not confirmed other tham Aftidi source), that his daughter was pushed( not seriously injured), does this give lisence to attack the poor fan who came for the love of this player ?

Ok let's say if daughter was pushed by a man who was wearing a nice Armani suit ( I don't think anybody with that class would have come to the airport anyway), do people believe, Afridi would have attacked that person? He was attacked, because he was poor and lower class idiot fan.

As someone mentioned, he did not shake hand with taxi driver but try to being nice with the fans who come to watch county games, obviously those fans in UK are not can drivers, so he treated them differently.

You are not in form tonight Zaid! Afridi assaulted 3 people and not one person and can be evidenced from the video!

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:42

No it’s not beside the point. Had you been a father you’d realise being a father means to be an ambassador for YOUR FAMILY.

Get it?

No you dont' get it. Everyone to their own. Once as a kid a few guys jumped me(on my own), my dad came and both of us beat the living daylights out of them. Nobody messes with the family which is what Afridi feels too. You live your life, we live ours, that's how we roll. :afridi.

Ruri

23rd March 2012, 23:42

I can't even believe people are trying to defend him with the daughter's argument.

First of all let's buy this argument( which is still not confirmed other tham Aftidi source), that his daughter was pushed( not seriously injured), does this give lisence to attack the poor fan who came for the love of this player ?

Ok let's say if daughter was pushed by a man who was wearing a nice Armani suit ( I don't think anybody with that class would have come to the airport anyway), do people believe, Afridi would have attacked that person? He was attacked, because he was poor and lower class idiot fan.

As someone mentioned, he did not shake hand with taxi driver but try to being nice with the fans who come to watch county games, obviously those fans in UK are not can drivers, so he treated them differently.

Who exactly did he punch? People keeping him from the daughter, or people who were jostling the daughter? The reports I've read aren't exactly clear.

At this point, I would just apply a degree to the punching. The prat who hurt my little baby goddaughter would have a broken nose (nothing infuriates me more than watching my little darling cry when someone's been mean) or if it was a grabby fan blocking me, I'd push him roughly out of the way.

amirfanforlife

23rd March 2012, 23:43

I can't even believe people are trying to defend him with the daughter's argument.

First of all let's buy this argument( which is still not confirmed other tham Aftidi source), that his daughter was pushed( not seriously injured), does this give lisence to attack the poor fan who came for the love of this player ?

Ok let's say if daughter was pushed by a man who was wearing a nice Armani suit ( I don't think anybody with that class would have come to the airport anyway), do people believe, Afridi would have attacked that person? He was attacked, because he was poor and lower class idiot fan.

As someone mentioned, he did not shake hand with taxi driver but try to being nice with the fans who come to watch county games, obviously those fans in UK are not can drivers, so he treated them differently.

:facepalm:
Do you not understand? It happens, when you see your child/siblings etc. getting hurt or whatever. In the heat of the moment, some people tend to react like that... I know I would. Get over it. :yk

I'll give you an example. This one boy hit my little bro once and he came home crying, so I went with a cricket bat to that boy's house and stood out there waiting for him to come out. :zoni

teesra3

23rd March 2012, 23:43

Move on guys..you lot have nothing else to do in life ?

It was a moment of heat..and all parties apologised to each others, so no point arguing about it.
If they have sorted it out then why are you lot complaining or even wasting time?

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:43

You are not in form tonight Zaid! Afridi assaulted 3 people and not one person and can be evidenced from the video!

Correct me if I'm wrong but did he not also threaten a fellow man after assaulting the other two?

23rd March 2012, 23:44

People who are appreciating Afridi's use of violence and encouraging similar behaviour, I hope you guys don't get beaten up, "brused up and pushed to the wall" when next time you accidentally bump into a kid at a crowded area because guess what, there were hundred other people pushing you from left, right and center..

Tapori

23rd March 2012, 23:44

Well no surprises why fans react like that - afterall, Afridi is regarded as a superstar to those specific fans.

Don't blame the fans, blame the lack of security - if there was security, then all this pushing and shuffling would have been limited, and more controlled.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/120214-tevez.jpg

^Could have been like that. But the bottom line is that Afridi shouldn't have reacted like that, not good enough... He's better then that.

Is that British Police? And Tevez ain't even revered in England as Afridi is in Pakistan! Point taken about Security, but Didn't Waq a=say his team looked liek the one he usually has?

I will blame the fans generally too, not all but many, because fans create this atmosphere. This mix of idolatory worship and a complete lack of common sense when greeted by a "star"

How hard is it to not shove a book in someones face who's just stepped off a flight etc?

Theres a beast within all of us; Crowds give a sense of anonymity or can give sense of false courage for someone to try something extra.

I don't know why Afridi has done what he's done... That's Afridi for you :afridi

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:45

Who exactly did he punch? People keeping him from the daughter, or people who were jostling the daughter? The reports I've read aren't exactly clear.

At this point, I would just apply a degree to the punching. The prat who hurt my little baby goddaughter would have a broken nose (nothing infuriates me more than watching my little darling cry when someone's been mean) or if it was a grabby fan blocking me, I'd push him roughly out of the way.

Ruri, this is Pakistan. If Afridi wanted he could have this guy picked up by the police and given one hell of a hiding. He let his rage out and went about his business. Most people are like you and me, the don't tolerate abuse or any type of physical attack at the family esp the children. Some people are here are always trying to support the goody goody line, it's not how the world works or reality of life.

23rd March 2012, 23:45

:facepalm:
Do you not understand? It happens, when you see your child/siblings etc. getting hurt or whatever. In the heat of the moment, some people tend to react like that... I know I would. Get over it. :yk

I'll give you an example. This one boy hit my little bro once and he came home crying, so I went with a cricket bat to that boy's house and stood out there waiting for him to come out. :zoni

We all did that when we were ten.

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:47

No you dont' get it. Everyone to their own. Once as a kid a few guys jumped me(on my own), my dad came and both of us beat the living daylights out of them. Nobody messes with the family which is what Afridi feels too. You live your life, we live ours, that's how we roll. :afridi.

How old were you KKWC? 3 years old? At least you can tell us how old you were.

No one is saying family doesn’t come first, but the irony is, in this instance, Afridi did not put his family first. Had he done he’d made sure his THREE year old daughter was protected first. Altruism.

Telling me I live my life and you live yours just reeks of submission.

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:47

I'll give you an example. This one boy hit my little bro once and he came home crying, so I went with a cricket bat to that boy's house and stood out there waiting for him to come out

The difference between you and Afridi is that he is a man, a proffesional cricketer, a role model for the younger kids, a father and arguably a person with more sense and experience when it comes situations like these.

I'm sure the daughter felt worse after seeing her father react like that on the helpless people who am sure did not mean to harm the poor child?

Move on guys..you lot have nothing else to do in life?

If it's bothering you so much, why even lurk this thread? It's a forum where discussions take place, get over it. It's a forum.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:47

Correct me if I'm wrong but did he not also threaten a fellow man after assaulting the other two?

Correct and this is clear as mud. The man threatened with a slap was standing behind Afridi and some considerable distance away from the two victims he hit with a closed fist.

The Muppets XI

23rd March 2012, 23:48

Surprised (tho not really) that Pakistani Airports don't have VIP back door exits for such superstars, tho I suppose there won't be much publicity had going out the back door.

Shocks me every time that Afridi has so many male fans of a certain age (where were the screaming girls?).

The men that were slapped/threatened seemed to have got off lightly, after all he could have taken a bite out of them.

amirfanforlife

23rd March 2012, 23:49

The difference between you and Afridi is that he is a man, a proffesional cricketer, a role model for the younger kids, a father and arguably a person with more sense and experience when it comes situations like these.

I'm sure the daughter felt worse after seeing her father react like that on the helpless people who am sure did not mean to harm the poor child?

My point was, things like that happen when you see someone you love getting hurt. Afridi is a professional cricketer, a role model and all the other stuff but he is also a human being just like the rest of us. He will make mistakes. :D

Btw, I am not saying what he did was right. I just do understand why he did it at that time.

sunnykhan

23rd March 2012, 23:49

I understand Afridi completely. But this is the second time he has beaten a fan :))

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:51

Is that British Police? And Tevez ain't even revered in England as Afridi is in Pakistan! Point taken about Security, but Didn't Waq a=say his team looked liek the one he usually has?

The picture was taken at Manchester airport - where it was flooded with fans who were well 'angry' at the Argentinian afterhe ditched the club for 5 months, yet everything seems so calm because of the way which the securities are handling it.

Where in Pakistan, fans are actually happy with the return of Afridi - but yet there's no security, so obviously there were no rules, afterall it is Pakistan as you stated.

Also notice how Tevez is holding his daughter - something Afridi should have done.

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:51

How old were you KKWC? 3 years old? At least you can tell us how old you were.

Probably around 13/14 and these guys were older.

No one is saying family doesn’t come first, but the irony is, in this instance, Afridi did not put his family first. Had he done he’d made sure his THREE year old daughter was protected first. Altruism.

Telling me I live my life and you live yours just reeks of submission.

I didn't mean to offend. Everyone has different ways of dealing with things, you have your way , Afridi and others(I) have their way. I'm sure you can understand some people go 'ape' when it comes to their children. It's not about submission, it's about differing views.

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:54

My point was, things like that happen when you see someone you love getting hurt. Afridi is a professional cricketer, a role model and all the other stuff but he is also a human being just like the rest of us. He will make mistakes. :D

Btw, I am not saying what he did was right. I just do understand why he did it at that time.

I'm sorry but a person who physically attacks not one but two helpless people is not someone who I'd classify as humans. I mean come one, the people who suffered from Afridi did not even do it purposely.

In terms of Islam, and in general it was unnacceptable from Afridi, not what a human would do. He for once looked like a beast out there, not a human.

Indeed, everyone makes mistakes BUT then again, Afridi has been in similiar situations before.

Waq

23rd March 2012, 23:54

Probably around 13/14 and these guys were older.

I didn't mean to offend. Everyone has different ways of dealing with things, you have your way , Afridi and others(I) have their way. I'm sure you can understand some people go 'ape' when it comes to their children. It's not about submission, it's about differing views.

KayKay you truly are a Houdini!

Where is your evidence that Afridi's daughter was distressed, injured, pushed or even seriously assaulted? Why do you believe this is the case?

You earlier referred to a male who admitted 'it'. What did he admit to exactly and can you provide a link/source?

You seem to know much more then most people on what happened in that airport.

Namak_Halaal

23rd March 2012, 23:55

I didn't mean to offend. Everyone has different ways of dealing with things, you have your way , Afridi and others(I) have their way. I'm sure you can understand some people go 'ape' when it comes to their children. It's not about submission, it's about differing views.

You are not offending my in the slightest.

Bro, I am telling you I would go ape when it comes to my children. I am not denying this. However what I am saying is that I would avoid putting my children in a situation that would cause them harm. Afridi did not do this. If Afridi’s kid was 13/14, then I can understand his children walking in their own accord, but a 3 year old? Come on!

If you cannot see the difference between a 13/14 year old and a 3 year old, then there's nothing to discuss.

12cavalry

23rd March 2012, 23:56

If only that Gul Rehman guy had an ounce of self respect, Shahid Afridi would have a FIR registered against his name for assault.

Calling him brother after he whopped your behind infront of hundreds. I don't know what it is that breeds this slave sheepish mentality... illiteracy, poverty maybe.

Theo_14

23rd March 2012, 23:57

Also, let's put this in our thoughts - would Afridi's daughter be feeling more terrified after the way Afridi reacted towards the two fans?

Because judging from the video - Afridi went wild, completely nuts. Surley his daughter must have been feeling even more scared, after seeing her father react like that?

KingKhanWC

23rd March 2012, 23:59

You are not offending my in the slightest.

Bro, I am telling you I would go ape when it comes to my children. I am not denying this. However what I am saying is that I would avoid putting my children in a situation that would cause them harm. Afridi did not do this. If Afridi’s kid was 13/14, then I can understand his children walking in their own accord, but a 3 year old? Come on!

Then we agree brother. I agree Afridi was wrong to even bring his children so close to the airport when he knows what kind of uncivlised, unruly mobs always surround him. It's just when it comes to kids people do get very enraged which is what happened.

wrongun

24th March 2012, 00:00

KingKhanWC

24th March 2012, 00:02

People are not reading the fans statement which has alreadly been put here. So here you go again.

“Afridi’s reaction was natural as dozens of fans circled him and hurt his daughter. I still love him and he is just like my brother,” fan Gul Rehman, who was hit several times by the allrounder, later told media

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/03/24/news/national/afridi-lashes-out-at-fans-after-daughter-hurt/

Even the fan admits he would have done the same by saying his reaction was natural. If he can understand and forgive others should to.

amirfanforlife

24th March 2012, 00:03

I'm sorry but a person who physically attacks not one but two helpless people is not someone who I'd classify as humans. I mean come one, the people who suffered from Afridi did not even do it purposely.

In terms of Islam, and in general it was unnacceptable from Afridi, not what a human would do. He for once looked like a beast out there, not a human.

Indeed, everyone makes mistakes BUT then again, Afridi has been in similiar situations before.

Like I said, when you see someone you love getting hurt, you tend to react unknowingly... something which I guess Afridi did.

Then again, he did say he shouldn't have acted like that after he had calmed down a bit, which kind of proves my point.

Yes he was wrong in what he did, but IMO, totally understandable.

zaid65

24th March 2012, 00:04

You are not in form tonight Zaid! Afridi assaulted 3 people and not one person and can be evidenced from the video!

Honestly was so busy with work, don't get chance to follow the whole video.

Nothing surprise me about him, the stuff which I know or have seen him personally, the events I have seen with him, if I would disclose here, people will become Farhat's fan more than Afridi fan.

Theo_14

24th March 2012, 00:07

Then again, he did say he shouldn't have acted like that after he had calmed down a bit, which kind of proves my point

Well that was bound to be said - you wouldn't expect him to say that it was the right decision to physically attack the fan.

That would only further damage his image as a player. Unimpressed with Afridi, he's better then that.

What makes it worse is that he's been in similiar situations before - this so called 'mistake' has occured more then once.

Once you commit a mistake, it is indeed a mistake but the 2nd time you do it... It's because of your choice.

IgnitedMind

24th March 2012, 00:07

If a person like Afridi who has been in the media spotlight for a decade and a half has done this..I believe the fan is at fault here.

and I think..normal fans should not be allowed to come near players so close..unless the players goes himself to the fans. And also stupid of afridi to bring his daughter to the airport knowing how well media and fans are after him..if he did bring..he should have had better security..I do not see any security persons in the video..looks like normal people are just guarding him..
usually

Waq

24th March 2012, 00:08

People are not reading the fans statement which has alreadly been put here. So here you go again.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/03/24/news/national/afridi-lashes-out-at-fans-after-daughter-hurt/

Even the fan admits he would have done the same by saying his reaction was natural. If he can understand and forgive others should to.

So why was Gul saab punched by Afridi for?

Mindless thuggery indeed

Legend Killer

24th March 2012, 00:09

Honestly was so busy with work, don't get chance to follow the whole video.

Nothing surprise me about him, the stuff which I know or have seen him personally, the events I have seen with him, if I would disclose here, people will become Farhat's fan more than Afridi fan.

Why don't you go ahead and disclose them then?

amirfanforlife

24th March 2012, 00:12

Well that was bound to be said - you wouldn't expect him to say that it was the right decision to physically attack the fan.

That would only further damage his image as a player. Unimpressed with Afridi, he's better then that.

What makes it worse is that he's been in similiar situations before - this so called 'mistake' has occured more then once.

I see where you're coming from ... but that's how you're looking at it whereas I'm not. :D

Once you commit a mistake, it is indeed a mistake but the 2nd time you do it... It's because of your choice.

Anger problems. :yk

Waq

24th March 2012, 00:14

Can I request that the Mods please change the title.

3 people were attacked, not one.

The first two were clearly seen being punched with a closed fist and the third person was threatened with an open hand strike (slap), which most countries class as not only an assault (threat of immediate violence but also a public order offence of sorts) but I am not sure of the exact classifications in Pakistan law.

Namak_Halaal

24th March 2012, 00:21

Then we agree brother. I agree Afridi was wrong to even bring his children so close to the airport when he knows what kind of uncivlised, unruly mobs always surround him. It's just when it comes to kids people do get very enraged which is what happened.

This also means you agree Afridi is an ambassador.

KingKhanWC

24th March 2012, 00:27

This also means you agree Afridi is an ambassador.

Sure. Any sportsman representing his nation or club is an ambassodor of the nation or club. I was just tryingg to point out his parenting proirity came first here even if we don't agree with the way he went about it. I just like others understand why he did what he did and would have probably done the same myself.

insaaniyat

24th March 2012, 00:28

No one pushed his daughter, Afridi is a clown and this is clown behaviour. He should be banned from cricket, he is a disgrace to our nation.

I second that :)

humzy

24th March 2012, 00:28

the guy deserves a punch.. leave the players alone they are just human beings not gods.. cant stand this overly fanatic fan stuff.. he probably wont wash his face for a month lol

insaaniyat

24th March 2012, 00:29

Why don't you go ahead and disclose them then?

this is not the rightforum for him to disclose

JellyBro

24th March 2012, 00:32

haha idiotic fan deserved it. In the beginning of the video it looked like someone kept touching him on the back / head which ticked him off bad.

Fans need to give him his space. They probably smell bad too which makes it even worse

pak4life

24th March 2012, 00:45

Afridi and his fans what can you say both as bad as each other. It was obvious he was going tobe mobbed it's not the first time his coming to Karachi airport he could have waited a while for security to be arranged but no he thought he be a hero. The problem with Afridi is he loves the limelight but can't handle the aggro that comes with it his arrogance is unbelievable.

From the video it seem his more worried about his hair then anything else!

iafzal

24th March 2012, 00:46

What Afridi did was completely wrong but I am surprised at the circus looks like a lynch mob out there. There needs to be security or better they need to be given access to get through some secret door. This is crazy. These people have nothing better do and act like this?

Prince_Pathan

24th March 2012, 00:50

if the daughter story is true good lad afridi

did what any father would do if their kid was threatened

cricmylife

24th March 2012, 01:12

my inner psychiatrist: lala must now channel this anger to consistency! :)

Whatever happened was sad!

Love Pakistan

24th March 2012, 01:13

If the daughter thing is true than its fine but if it isn't then its a disgrace!

cricmylife

24th March 2012, 01:14

If the daughter thing is true than its fine but if it isn't then its a disgrace!

watch the video, seems true to me.

Love Pakistan

24th March 2012, 01:19

watch the video, seems true to me.

Yeah I think someone pushed his daughter and she fell down! That would get anyone angry and Afridi as we all know is extra aggresive!

ghulam35

24th March 2012, 01:20

If the whole daughter story is true;

Harming another man does not protect yout daughter. Holding her does,

If his hand was not so busy on his luxurious hair then perhaps he could have held her.

It looks very bad but I can think of similar incidents over the years (Inzi, Merv Hughes going after a fan with a cricket bat in SA).

An apology & a ban of a few games is normally the result.

Are you stupid, I'm not an afridi fanboy but totally agree with aghast he did here. the crowd looked like a bunch of hungry animals which resulted In his Daugher getting hurt , any father would have reacted this way to the the carelessness of the inconsiderate fans, who put the Childs health at risk.

The beating of those fans should provide a sense of security to his children that they dad will protect them. Even if it means putting his own health at risk. I'm sure he checked on the Daugher first before pushing those fans. And I'm sure he hugged his daughter and gave her the reassurance that he's there for at some stage

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arc6fire

24th March 2012, 01:26

Can anyone confirm that these 3 particular fans did something specifically to harm his daughter or did afridi just lash out at whoever came to hand?????

insaaniyat

24th March 2012, 01:28

Down2Earth

24th March 2012, 01:32

that was disgraceful, maybe it'll knock some sense into his fans'

sachin__

24th March 2012, 01:32

Getting fame is one thing...being able to handle it is the key

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Down2Earth

24th March 2012, 01:34

but he is a hot blooded pashtun male and a father to boot

we have these spontaneous bursts of anger, for which we feel remorse for afterwards

there is a saying, we act first, think later

that's call human nature, it's those that have learnt to control and adapt themselves who become superior than the rest. this isn't the stone age we're living in. what he did was unacceptable.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 01:35

Wow. Can't bat these days, can't bowl these days, and has the guts to kick people in the face. Should be kicked out of the team PERIOD.

Disgusting.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 01:38

Do you watch cricket?
Smells like an Afridi fan...

saamry

24th March 2012, 01:40

RRK92

24th March 2012, 01:42

Smells like an Afridi fan...

Can you tell me how Afridi has performed for the last couple of years?

That is if you watch cricket.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 01:46

Can you tell me how Afridi has performed for the last couple of years?

That is if you watch cricket.
Instead of padding the post count here, why don't you show us what you want us to believe?

This is what he did in Asia Cup:
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2012/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=6730;team=7;type=t ournament

And that's what someone would call "these days" - that is someone who can read.

RRK92

24th March 2012, 01:53

Instead of padding the post count here, why don't you show us what you want us to believe?

This is what he did in Asia Cup:
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2012/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=6730;team=7;type=t ournament

And that's what someone would call "these days" - that is someone who can read.

So after one below par tournament he should be dropped? (He was man of the match in the final)

But you seem to know your way around cricinfo. Why dont you check the stats for the last 2 years?

Who else should be dropped? I am dying to know.

Black Zero

24th March 2012, 01:57

Video is edited and I am not sure what to make out of it.
To me, Afridi was pushed from the back.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 02:02

So after one below par tournament he should be dropped? (He was man of the match in the final)

But you seem to know your way around cricinfo. Why dont you check the stats for the last 2 years?

Who else should be dropped? I am dying to know.
Look, dude, if you want to use my post to declare war on Syria or solve famine in Sudan, be my guest. He should be dropped based on what he did in that video ALONE. (Forget his stats / 2-year stint.:facepalm:)

Down2Earth

24th March 2012, 02:04

well where is his daughter? did he just leave her at the airport when he sat in his car and drove away?

RRK92

24th March 2012, 02:07

Look, dude, if you want to use my post to declare war on Syria or solve famine in Sudan, be my guest. He should be dropped based on what he did in that video ALONE. (Forget his stats / 2-year stint.:facepalm:)

Then say THAT. Dont say he should be dropped because he cant bowl or bat.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 02:07

Apology? :)) Blames everyone and their grandma in the video and then inserts "my mistake too" at the end.

Now, can someone tell me where his daughter is supposed to be in that video?

Usman

24th March 2012, 02:14

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 02:19

People, the bigger issue here is security. Goodness me, the guy is a national superstar and there is literally no security? Quite apart from the threat of being crushed by fans, what if God forbid, there was someone with an agenda there with a gun or a bomb. Cricketers in Pakistan were the target of a terrorist attack the last time a team toured and yet the authorities have learnt nothing. Then again, they probably have no time to think of these things once they've finished robbing the national purse.
I don't think we need to paint over something that did happen with a what-if. If anything, it's the fans who should demand security for themselves against Afridi.

Remember he didn't need to walk out in the open if he felt he didn't have adequate security.

I'd like to understand the daughter's incident a bit more though.

Romali_rotti

24th March 2012, 02:25

lol As usual Afridi showing his classs................

Dr Khan

24th March 2012, 02:33

Appology NOT accepted

zaid65

24th March 2012, 02:47

At the heat of the moment, Geo and other channels made the video and presented with chat patti head lines. Get read for some damage control with his Geo buddies ( Majid Bhatti and Yahya Hussaini) with twist of the story.

Usman

24th March 2012, 02:53

I don't think we need to paint over something that did happen with a what-if. If anything, it's the fans who should demand security for themselves against Afridi.

Remember he didn't need to walk out in the open if he felt he didn't have adequate security.

I'd like to understand the daughter's incident a bit more though.

He made it clear in that apology that he was not happy with the level of security. To me that suggests that the situation wasn't one he could avoid.

And bravo, lets wait until the unthinkable happens before anyone raises an eyebrow over security issues. Ever heard of something called risk management?

As far as the daughter issue is concerned, I think even the man who faced the full force of the punch admitted that he pushed Afridi's daughter so why make conspiracy theories?

qadoos

24th March 2012, 03:00

sad reaction from Afridi,He should have expected some sort of welcome from fans after winning asia cup and should have handled himself a little better,Fans also need to take step back and not crowd them.

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 03:02

He made it clear in that apology that he was not happy with the level of security. To me that suggests that the situation wasn't one he could avoid.

And bravo, lets wait until the unthinkable happens before anyone raises an eyebrow over security issues. Ever heard of something called risk management?

As far as the daughter issue is concerned, I think even the man who faced the full force of the punch admitted that he pushed Afridi's daughter so why make conspiracy theories?
LOL. He punches a guy in the face, gets videotaped on national TV, and comes back to say he wasn't happy with security? I mean, even Bollywood movies aren't that predictable these days.:))

If your boy has heard of the word risk management, then he should perhaps next time try and wait for security. 350-odd ODIs later, he notices the lack of it after all - so I'd call it progress.

Would love to get my hands on the interview of that admitter...BTW.

Faisalabadimunda

24th March 2012, 03:13

Guys this is a much more clear Video of what happened. Infact you can hear Afridi saying.. Kids are standing here move out.
http://www.videofy.me/cricketmagazine/444185

Ironcat

24th March 2012, 03:17

Guys this is a much more clear Video of what happened. Infact you can hear Afridi saying.. Kids are standing here move out.
http://www.videofy.me/cricketmagazine/444185
Nothing that warrants a punch in the face, but now we understand what got him so riled up.

Looney

24th March 2012, 03:27

He seems annoyed from the beginning of the video not just by the push

You can see the fans acting rowdy . There was no security present at the airport for the players . It is also silly for his family to bring little kids , i know they have the right to come but it is not safe when so much crowd is present there .

saeedhk

24th March 2012, 04:12

Afridi could have handled the situation properly.

The video of the guy who got beaten up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7kIINiuIjM&feature=related

What a fan!

MenInG

24th March 2012, 06:06

People still posting inane comments - pls think before you post or you will end up getting banned!

pakpassfan

24th March 2012, 06:57

i am sure afridi had good reasons..

Dragon

24th March 2012, 07:47

My respect for afridi has gone through the roof. best bowler and brawler in pak.

sarmadsl

24th March 2012, 08:11

stop guys he didnot beat anyone

see video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoIy4WYJVKM

shahidafridi123

24th March 2012, 08:17

More Clear video of the words:
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cesIgkot7FE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dragon

24th March 2012, 08:23

this clears things up. thanks

MenInG

24th March 2012, 08:25

Frankly speaking until Afridi comes forward with his own version of events, we will never know the whole story

sarmadsl

24th March 2012, 08:33

Frankly speaking until Afridi comes forward with his own version of events, we will never know the whole story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juyiWFhiF5Y&feature=g-all-u&context=G28ec931FAAAAAAAAKAA

Saj

24th March 2012, 08:52

The more I watch this with the sound on, the worse it gets.

Looks really bad and frankly embarrassing.

ShaazE

24th March 2012, 09:19

Fools shouldn't mess with a man's child.

dani2k

24th March 2012, 10:06

Just wondering how people are so "understanding" of Afridis reaction due to provocation but still ridicule Indian players (Harbhajan Singh, Rohit Sharma, Pravin Kumar, Kohli etc) when they react (not violently in most cases - just talking back).

Public figures are public figures. They need to learn to handle themselves appropriately.

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:12

Fools shouldn't mess with a man's child.

So all 3 assaulted victims messed with Afridi's daughter? Where did you hear this?

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:15

Throughout the video, you can tell that fan was all over Afridi. Also, Fan should keep thier hands to themselves.

Not sure what was said, but you can tell that it was building up and finally he lost control.

Wish he didnt do it, but i can understand why he did it.

Which fan are you referring to? What was his appearance as I see no such person in the videos in this thread?

You also mention one fan - did you not see Afridi assault 3 people at random?

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:17

Video is edited and I am not sure what to make out of it.
To me, Afridi was pushed from the back.

Why do you feel the video is edited?

If Afridi was pushed from the back then why did he lunge forward and punch two members of public at the front?

DeadlyVenom

24th March 2012, 10:19

These Afridi "supporters" are all posting like idiots. Nobody deliberately hurt Afridis child.

At our local masjid at Juma after the namaz everybody clamours towards the doors like a mob. Some small children get lost in the mob and may accidently get their feet stepped on. The Sensible parents have their kids in their arms to make sure they are not harmed.

I think people supporting Afridi have not been with small children much outside. As a Father/Uncle/Elder Brother your responsibility is to make sure the kid is in your hands out of harms way. This should be done everywhere from the supermarket,the mosque,crossing the street but especially in a situation like this.

If you guys want the person who caused harm to the kid to be punished then it is a Afridi or a member of his familys fault for putting the kid in the way of danger in the first place.

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:20

People, the bigger issue here is security. Goodness me, the guy is a national superstar and there is literally no security? Quite apart from the threat of being crushed by fans, what if God forbid, there was someone with an agenda there with a gun or a bomb. Cricketers in Pakistan were the target of a terrorist attack the last time a team toured and yet the authorities have learnt nothing. Then again, they probably have no time to think of these things once they've finished robbing the national purse.

The video shows at least 3 men surrounding Afridi who appear to be security/police/hired goons.

You seem dismissive about 3 random assaults by Afridi?

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:25

He made it clear in that apology that he was not happy with the level of security. To me that suggests that the situation wasn't one he could avoid.

And bravo, lets wait until the unthinkable happens before anyone raises an eyebrow over security issues. Ever heard of something called risk management?

As far as the daughter issue is concerned, I think even the man who faced the full force of the punch admitted that he pushed Afridi's daughter so why make conspiracy theories?

Usman - apologies for singling you out but I am bemused by posts like this on this thread. There are numerous posts on here saying that Afridi assaulted not one but three people and the video clearly shows it too.

I fear people are making comment without reading the thread properly or actually viewing the video.

786warrior

24th March 2012, 10:34

Did the lion Afridi get him with the fast straighter one or was it the googly???

~Red Devil~

24th March 2012, 10:41

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:41

Did the lion Afridi get him with the fast straighter one or was it the googly???

It was a big swing and a miss x 3

Inziquicksingle

24th March 2012, 10:43

It was a big swing and a miss x 3

So then how did he "assault 3 people" if what you claim is true?

786warrior

24th March 2012, 10:44

It was a big swing and a miss x 3

You're kidding me!!!?? I couldn't quite make out from the clip I saw

Waq

24th March 2012, 10:44

So then how did he "assault 3 people" if what you claim is true?

Google the definition of what constitutes an assault is my suggestion to you.

ads101

24th March 2012, 10:46

Really annoying. This isn't the first time we've had an incident like this involving pakistani players.

This wasn't afridi protecting his daughter. That would be checking if she's ok. What he did was lash out in revenge. And the daughter herself was unharmed anyway.

Afridi is a public figure. He knows he shouldn't act like this. One of the reasons why parents keep their kids out of the spotlight it is because things like this can happen. Afridi hasn't hesitated to show his children in the media, he's even let them interview his children. So he needs to be prepared if this happens and act accordingly and responsibly.

Inziquicksingle

24th March 2012, 10:50

Google the definition of what constitutes an assault is my suggestion to you.

So you're using it in the literal legal sense? Fair enough, continue your crusade against Afridi for swinging his arms at a crowd. Hopefully he faces justice and you are successful, good luck.

Waq

24th March 2012, 11:00

AFG_Brit

24th March 2012, 11:02

Guys this is a much more clear Video of what happened. Infact you can hear Afridi saying.. Kids are standing here move out.
http://www.videofy.me/cricketmagazine/444185

In this video u can clearly see that his daughter was waiting for him by his car. The fans were following him up untill then, but when he reached his family they should have backed off. But no, some people don't know the meaning of family and personal space.

Some people have been awake all night mentioning that why would he be bringing his daughter and why he wasn't holding her whilst walking towards his car. However, from what i can see in the video the girl is not with him whilst he is walking. Infact she is waiting for him by his car.

it is clear in the videos that afridi is annoyed by the constant harrasing of his fans and when it gets to his daughter, then he loses his cool. Fair enough being a famous celeberity, he should have more control but in this sort of situations one doesn't have time to think. You just go with heat of the moment.

Runner Up

24th March 2012, 11:14

In the video they showed later, Afridi not only pushed his fans but used abusive language too that's not acceptable at all.

Savak

24th March 2012, 11:19

Axcellent stuff from Afridi

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ghulam35

24th March 2012, 11:21

#afridi put his family and daughter before anything else #respect

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24th March 2012, 11:24

According to my friend, there is actually a post T20 WC win interview of Afridi where he on record said (in one of Nadia Khan shows) that unlike other players, he prefers to exit through the main public domain because he likes to greet his fans as he appreciate 'their pyaar and dedication'. In other he also likes to exit from the usual route to bump into the media and get all the attention.

Desi_Joker

24th March 2012, 11:38

cricket_fever

24th March 2012, 11:47

Waq

24th March 2012, 11:55

It's from all the boxing training they do.

Reflexes kicked in when Lala got fired up.

http://kaw.stb.s-msn.com/i/63/62F489CF618039F18E88CC91867B15.jpg

What Afridi did was wrong, but it was in the heat of the moment and he apologized for it. It should be ended there.

Really, so where do you draw the line for which crimes Afridi can commit without fear of punishment?

I am sad to say that there are really some immature comments with regards to blindly defending Afridi.

With an apology perhaps the night in a police cell then a punishment from the courts will suffice?

Waq

24th March 2012, 11:56

if someone hurt my daughter and if i was a parent, i would have really gotten mad too. dont blame afridi, any normal person would have gotten angry. many pakistani fans need to learn how to behave instead of going wild when they see their team.

How do you know that his daughter was actually hurt?

What poor behaviour of the three men led to them being assaulted?

Desi_Joker

24th March 2012, 11:58

Really, so where do you draw the line for which crimes Afridi can commit without fear of punishment?

I am sad to say that there are really some immature comments with regards to blindly defending Afridi.

With an apology perhaps the night in a police cell then a punishment from the courts will suffice?

Let me ask you this, Waq. If anybody pushed your daughter (even if it was by accident), would you or would you not get angry at that person? Especially if that pushing and shoving resulted in your daughter getting hurt.

Afridi's reaction was the reaction of a normal father and in the end he recognized that he could've perhaps reacted better, but like I said before, his reaction was in the heat of the moment and his judgment was clouded by the fact that somebody had hurt his daughter.

James

24th March 2012, 11:59

So you're using it in the literal legal sense? Fair enough, continue your crusade against Afridi for swinging his arms at a crowd. Hopefully he faces justice and you are successful, good luck.

This is ordinary and frankly uninformed apologism. There are legal terms to consider here. Afridi not only acted in a threatening and violent way (legally known as assault) but physically harmed people (legally known as battery - and that's at the very least). Self-defence can only argued by his legal team - it is another matter altogether whether a jury would agree. If the relevant people in the crowd had the time, money and inclination to press charges then Afridi could get into a lot of trouble.

that's call human nature, it's those that have learnt to control and adapt themselves who become superior than the rest. this isn't the stone age we're living in. what he did was unacceptable.

This for me is the best post in the thread, agree with it 100%.

Where did all this conjecture about the daughter come from, anyway? The only widely available video evidence shows Afridi walking down a cameraman in a blind rage and then swinging punches at people.

Waq

24th March 2012, 12:01

Let me ask you this, Waq. If anybody pushed your daughter (even if it was by accident), would you or would you not get angry at that person? Especially if that pushing and shoving resulted in your daughter getting hurt.

Afridi's reaction was the reaction of a normal father and in the end he recognized that he could've perhaps reacted better, but like I said before, his reaction was in the heat of the moment and his judgment was clouded by the fact that somebody had hurt his daughter.

I would encourage you to read this thread in its entirety since I have already answered your question with a true life example.

Going back to Afridi's assaults, who pushed or hurt hi daughter and how do we know this is true?

If he lashed out then should he not face prosecution like everybody else?

Desi_Joker

24th March 2012, 12:06

I would encourage you to read this thread in its entirety since I have already answered your question with a true life example.

Going back to Afridi's assaults, who pushed or hurt hi daughter and how do we know this is true?

If he lashed out then should he not face prosecution like everybody else?

He should be prosecuted if the person/people pushed and shoved by him want to drag him to court.

I'm sure though that he will get away with it due to mitigating circumstances or something along the lines.

Savak

24th March 2012, 12:28

James

24th March 2012, 12:30

zaid65

24th March 2012, 12:34

Or how about: rise above violence, in an attempt to educate and civilise people who haven't had as lucky and privileged a background as yourself. Diplomacy has a proven track record of success; violence has a proven track record of breeding more violence.

Whippy,

Best of luck for your logic explanation to explain to these Afridi fans. Ask Afridi, what they deserve :)

Waq

24th March 2012, 12:37

He should be prosecuted if the person/people pushed and shoved by him want to drag him to court.

I'm sure though that he will get away with it due to mitigating circumstances or something along the lines.

I do not know what experience you have with evidence and courts but to me, viewing video footage of a suspect swinging for two men an threatening to slap another is very bad and I see no mitigation for using an excuse that his daughter was pushed.

Asif321

24th March 2012, 12:40

cheap publicity as usual .........

Desi_Joker

24th March 2012, 12:41

I do not know what experience you have with evidence and courts but to me, viewing video footage of a suspect swinging for two men an threatening to slap another is very bad and see no mitigation for using an excuse that his daughter was pushed.

You can clearly hear Afridi shout "Bache hain idhar" (There are kids in this area).

If that isn't evidence enough, then the man he pushed also confirms Afridi's claims that his daughter was there and was indeed pushed around.

Dragon

24th March 2012, 12:42

MR__KHAN__JI

24th March 2012, 12:44

Or how about: rise above violence, in an attempt to educate and civilise people who haven't had as lucky and privileged a background as yourself. Diplomacy has a proven track record of success; violence has a proven track record of breeding more violence.

Lol.

That is several levels of civility above the status quo.

Waq

24th March 2012, 12:47

You can clearly hear Afridi shout "Bache hain idhar" (There are kids in this area).

If that isn't evidence enough, then the man he pushed also confirms Afridi's claims that his daughter was there and was indeed pushed around.

Are you able to view the video? Afridi did not push anybody - he punched two people with a closed fist and threatened to slap a 3rd person.

Which victim confirmed the pushing of daughter? Was it victim 1,2 or 3?

If he shouts that children are nearby then why did he not pick up his daughter?

This is a mindless attack by a thug.

DM123

24th March 2012, 12:47

@ Waq - one of the fans who himself faced Afridi's lashings, had said that Afridi's daughter was hurt in the jostle and it was a natural reaction.

It is in Yahoo news- http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/afridi-involved-in-brawl-on-pakistan-return.html

Afridi is not mobbed by crowd for the first time - he has faced it several times. So it is quiet natural that something must have happened this time to make him so angry.

Question is Whether he should have controlled it or not and reacted differently? It's easy to say to control one's temper and not react to the people who hurt one's daughter, but practically it's difficult to do so. I think most PPers. who are speaking against Afridi's behavior would at least have screamed at the unruly people who had hurt their near ones. Personally I think screaming at the people would have been enough - Afridi need not be physical with anyone.

@ zaid 65

Your hate for Afridi is well known. For you, Sri Lanka team becomes a "minnow" when Afridi plays well. In fact, your hatred and venomous remarks all the time against Afridi proves what kind of behavior you can show and what educational level you have.

Btw, let me remind you that even your favorite Younis Khan has reacted angrily at a fan at airport after returning from the 2007 world cup. Reason- the fan was jeering at the players for the world cup debacle. At that time, Younis was hustled into the car by his relatives before things turn ugly.

24th March 2012, 12:50

Ok I know Gul and Hammad were also interviewed at the airport by couple of lone reporters, any evidence of them leaving through the public exist and facing the media frenzy like Afridi?

Waq

24th March 2012, 12:51

@ Waq - one of the fans who himself faced Afridi's lashings, had said that Afridi's daughter was hurt in the jostle and it was a natural reaction.

It is in Yahoo news- http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/afridi-involved-in-brawl-on-pakistan-return.html

Afridi is not mobbed by crowd for the first time - so this is quiet natural that something must have happened this time to make him so angry.

Question is Whether he should have controlled it or not and reacted differently? It's easy to say to control one's temper and not react to the people who hurt one's daughter, but practically it's difficult to do so. I think most PPers. who are speaking against Afridi's behavior would have screamed at the unruly people who had hurt their near ones. Personally I think screaming at the people would have been enough - Afridi need not be physical with anyone.

@ zaid 65

Your hate for Afridi is well known. For you, Sri Lanka team becomes a "minnow" when Afridi plays well. In fact, your hatred and venomous remarks all the time against Afridi proves what kind of behavior you can show and what educational level you have.

Btw, let me remind you that even your favorite Younis Khan has reacted angrily at a fan at airport after returning from the 2007 world cup. Reason- the fan was jeering at the players for the world cup debacle. At that time, Younis was hustled into the car by his relatives before things turn ugly.

I again ask, which victim backs up Afridi's claim that his daughter was pushed?

Did all three victims push his daughter and if not, why did Afridi assault all of them?

He should be prosecuted for this behaviour.

miandadrules

24th March 2012, 12:57

Weren't some of the people on here defending Afrid, chiding and ridiculing Younis Khan?

What Afridi did was wrong and he should appologise. Even if his daughter was pushed, he should say I became upset when my daughter was pushed but that does not justify my behaviour.

A few questions are raised, which I think others have mentioned.

1. Why did Afridi have his daughter there, when he knew and his family etc.. knew there would be such a crush of people?

2. I think someone mentioned that Afridi always exit the airport via the pubic route. He was clearly in a bad mood before he threw a punch. I might be wrong but in the first video didn't he stop and exchange words with someone. He looked angry, so why not just take the VIP exit if that is the case?

DM123

24th March 2012, 12:57

DM123

24th March 2012, 12:59

Markhor

24th March 2012, 13:01

Afridi should not have had his daughter there, there obviously would be masses of fans and journalists there, the daughter should have been safe in the car and not in the crowd. You have to be responsible and show some common sense. If the daughter's toes were stepped on, a simple 'Watch what you are doing' or 'Move out of the way' would have sufficed. You don't, as an international cricketer and an ambassador of the Pakistan cricket team go and lash out at someone like that. This is not the first time when Afridi's emotions get the better of himself.

Also the fans are like a bunch of animals, treating Afridi as some god. There is a child there, just back off.

miandadrules

24th March 2012, 13:02

@miandadrules - I brought up the case of younis khan because I wanted to tell Zaid65 that his favorite players also loose temper when jeered by the crowd.

Loosing temper is not something only Afridi does as Zaid65 seems to imply.

I wasn't referring to you. i haven't actually read your post. I scan through some of the responses last night and so people who were ridiculing Younis, bringing up his behaviour with fans in comparison to Afridi. There was footage of Younis striking anyone.

DM123

24th March 2012, 13:05

@Markhor - agree with you.

Afridi could have only screamed at the people and not be physical with anyone.

It's not Afridi but his other family members should be blamed for bringing the daughter in the crowd.

12cavalry

24th March 2012, 13:09

I again ask, which victim backs up Afridi's claim that his daughter was pushed?

Did all three victims push his daughter and if not, why did Afridi assault all of them?

He should be prosecuted for this behaviour.

Are you serious?.The perpetrator is rich and famous...the victim is not...this is Pakistan.

Waq

24th March 2012, 13:13

@ Waq -

so you think that the media is making up this daughter's story? Anyways, if any of the victims feel that they have been wrongly dealt, they should have complained it to the police.

It's fine if Afridi is prosecuted for the behavior . People who hurt the girl, even unintentionally, should be charged too - after all, people are charged by the police after causing accidents which happen unintentionally.

I have no idea whether the media has made up stuff or not.

What would you charge the crowd with and why do you believe Afridi's versions of events ad they are contrary to the video. As far as I am aware, it is not an offence to request an autograph.

zaid65

24th March 2012, 13:22

anyone.

@ zaid 65

Your hate for Afridi is well known. For you, Sri Lanka team becomes a "minnow" when Afridi plays well. In fact, your hatred and venomous remarks all the time against Afridi proves what kind of behavior you can show and what educational level you have.

Btw, let me remind you that even your favorite Younis Khan has reacted angrily at a fan at airport after returning from the 2007 world cup. Reason- the fan was jeering at the players for the world cup debacle. At that time, Younis was hustled into the car by his relatives before things turn ugly.

First of all, I don't have a favorite player. I am not 12 year kid who just entered into puberty and choose players as favorites and defend their animal behavior.

Please show me a post where I have defended Younis Khan's animal behavior. If Younis Khan did the same, it should be condemned as well and this does not give licensee to Afridi to do the same, oh wait, Afridi has a history of attacking poor people.

These fans come to greet their superstars, they don't deserves to be treated like animal by these so called superstars.

hasanmehmoodkhan

24th March 2012, 13:36

aakhi afridi bhi pathan hai , lol . his pathan anger comes out, honestly i would of acted in the same way so can not really blame him have to protect my family

90MPH

24th March 2012, 13:38

Does anyone else notice Afridi's demeanor before he punches the guy ? He seems like a volcano about to erupt.

Some of the fans do behave like idiots in desperation for autographs but this does not justify Afridi's behavior (even if if the fan did push or stamp on his daughters feet it was an accident).
I am sure he regrets it now considering the headlines it has made.

zaid65

24th March 2012, 13:41

miandadrules

24th March 2012, 13:43

isnt violence the way the British conquered the whole world ?

That can be applied to any empire throughout history.

Zamee

24th March 2012, 13:53

Well its his fault clearly. Why allow ur daughter to be there when u knw there will be lot of people!!
Unacceptable attitude really.
He should be punished for this.

Fireworks11

24th March 2012, 14:10

Pathetic behaviour by the fans - It's only Afridi. Get a life.

ShahidAfridi_rulez

24th March 2012, 14:23

Not surprised that this thread has reached 6 pages in just 2 days.

AZulfi

24th March 2012, 15:03

:))) if true.

Wonder what the fan said.

Misbah is a better captain than you?

good one

I did not condone Younis's behaviour when he beat up a poor guy badly who happened to just trip over something and fall in his path nor can I defend Afridi's animal behaviour

AZulfi

24th March 2012, 15:06

Saqs

24th March 2012, 15:17

This is ordinary and frankly uninformed apologism. There are legal terms to consider here. Afridi not only acted in a threatening and violent way (legally known as assault) but physically harmed people (legally known as battery - and that's at the very least). Self-defence can only argued by his legal team - it is another matter altogether whether a jury would agree. If the relevant people in the crowd had the time, money and inclination to press charges then Afridi could get into a lot of trouble.

This for me is the best post in the thread, agree with it 100%.

Where did all this conjecture about the daughter come from, anyway? The only widely available video evidence shows Afridi walking down a cameraman in a blind rage and then swinging punches at people.

Conjecture?

Both Afridi and the man assaulted have told us his daughter was hurt.

Sick of this holier than thou attitude in here. Wasn't aware we had so many temper less angels posting on PP.

Indiafan

24th March 2012, 15:17

Are u guys joking? Afridi didn't do anything wrong. Unruly people deserve the beatings of a life time. You cannot give respect to people who don't deserve it. Treating an unruly, disrespectful person with respect that they don't deserve is like inviting them politely without objection to walk over you.

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Savak, slowly but surely I have been losing a bit of respect for you because of posts like this. It seems all you want is some cheap thrillsin life, especially from the players you support. Integrity and consitancy is the last thing you expect from cricketers (hence your un-natural hate for Misbah) but are very taken in by cheap tricks and thrills. Sooner or later everyone has to grow up and face the real world where people need to behave in a certain way and are accountable for their action, they cannot behave like petulant children and be admired for it. I am sorry if this post was too personal, I will delete if you object

Also super-stars like Afridi cannot have it both ways. They are so ready to take all the adulations (sometimes even unwarranted) when they like without thinking whether they deserve it or not. they are also making millions. But with the good and the super-stardom, sometimes comes the bad too and over a career spanning more than 15 years you learn to deal with it. You are an ambassador of your country, you just do not stoop to the level of ruffians particularly since the young people of the country are bound to copy your actions. Afridi is a veteran player unlike someone like Kohli (who IMO is still wrong)

I would also like to take Sachin as an example here. Sachin is called a lots of names by some on this forum but you cannot even imagine the kind of life he goes through. He is hounded, criticized and followed by fan, media and critics to the extent that he cannot step out much even in foreign countries. Miles long jams are caused in Mumbai if he steps out of his car, he has often been accidently pushed and shoved but he has still held onto his dignity.

In such instances its always Afridi (or the celebrity in question) who is going to be judged, not some no name fans so the onus is on him to keep his temper under control. Pakistan surely need better role models and its not like they have a dearth of good ones to follow

Saqs

24th March 2012, 15:22

People need to sit back and think - has this happened with Afridi before?

Yes. He has been mobbed at airports throughout his career.

So what made him crack?

Surely something would have provoked it.

Not saying it was the best way to handle things for a former captain and a role model to millions of kids - but I think people here do not fully appreciate how crazy mobs can get in Pak - even it they do mean well.

MenInG

24th March 2012, 15:22

Has Afridi made a public apology or comment?

Bullet Drive

24th March 2012, 15:25

What Afridi does is highly unacceptable. He is a public figure and should have acted in a better way but this is Afridi and he is known to do silly things.

ShaunMarshRules

24th March 2012, 15:35

It all happened in the heat of the moment. Once someone knocked my newphew at a fair ground and although I didn't boom boom him I still grabbed him and told him to be careful. People do react with extreme anger when kids are involved. What was the fan doing so close to a child anyway? He should have realised his kids are there and walked off. He needs to learn some manners and start acting in a civilised way, maybe he will from now on. :afridi

Fair enough, the guy was careless and bears some fault here. There was no harm in Afridi giving him a few harsh words or pulling him aside. Throwing punches was over the top, but since Afridi apologized I won't dwell on it overmuch.

Ruri, this is Pakistan. If Afridi wanted he could have this guy picked up by the police and given one hell of a hiding. He let his rage out and went about his business. Most people are like you and me, the don't tolerate abuse or any type of physical attack at the family esp the children.

That's hyperbole. Afridi himself didn't call it an "physical attack" or "abuse", he said someone stepped on her toes by mistake. IF it had been a physical attack, Afridi would have made sure the guy was hospitalized or arrested, and with full justification (and my support).
Some Lala fans are more Catholic than the Pope....

Ruri, this is Pakistan... Some people are here are always trying to support the goody goody line, it's not how the world works or reality of life.

There is some factual basis to this. I went to an elite university in Pakistan where there was a minor car accident once - some guy driving through bumped a professor's car. The professor had the guy's car stopped by the security, and then proceeded to slap and rough up the guy while the guards held him. Kind of sad.....that's only how "the world works" in Pakistan and other countries where the police cannot stop such behavior.
Has Afridi made a public apology or comment?
See post 161 of this thread:
“My emotions got out of control. My young daughter was there and someone stepped on her toes,” Afridi said while talking to DawnNews on Friday evening. He also blamed security officials for not providing him an adequate escort. However he quickly realised that he may have reacted harshly."
“I realise I should not have done it,” he said, before issuing a muffled apology.
Not a very convincing apology, but sufficient for me. Us fans don't need him to grovel. I am more concerned at people saying he had nothing to apologize for, or that his reaction was the natural/correct one.

cricpak

24th March 2012, 15:40

youve got have respect for yourself before you have respect for anyone.

This just shows he has no izzat and no respect for himself, What an idiot !!

90MPH

24th March 2012, 15:48

Everyone has a temper but it's the way you control it that matters.

Like AZ Zulfi says most educated people would not react that way. After 16 years the guy has not leant a lot. He does not care that much about his fans in my opinion.

Pete Rose

24th March 2012, 16:00

i wonder why the PCB doesnt handle players departure and arrival so that they dont have to come through the crowds. Probably best to whisk them away from the side.

but then for that the players, including the 'me me me' media hungry ones, would need to cooperate as well.

miandadrules

24th March 2012, 16:05

Just a quick question to those Afridi fans.

Had Afridi accidentally stepped on the toes of a fan's young daughter, would the fan then be in the right to punch Afridi squarely on his bristled mandible?

ShahidAfridi_rulez

24th March 2012, 19:08

Has Afridi made a public apology or comment?
Yes, after the incident happened he had an interview with some channel (can't remember which one exactly), and in that interview he did say that he was wrong.

chui_kadoo

24th March 2012, 19:13

He has always been a loose cannon.

Seems like he has a solid right hand though.

That punch would have knocked out both of the klitchko brothers.

May see one of the Klitchko brothers calling his name out. They are looking for some tough competition.

James

24th March 2012, 20:02

Conjecture?

Both Afridi and the man assaulted have told us his daughter was hurt.

Sick of this holier than thou attitude in here. Wasn't aware we had so many temper less angels posting on PP.

Holier than thou? I am no moralist but I do refuse to collude in idiocy. I like Afridi but he has been simply unreasonable - the bloke stepped on his daughter's toes. Continue to think this justifies Afridi's actions if you like. Others amongst us don't let our personal like for a player affect our opinions when they do something that is blatantly wrong.

As for your other remark, I would not say I am a temper-less angel but I don't believe in violence. Sorry.

James

24th March 2012, 20:04

Lol.

That is several levels of civility above the status quo.

Good. This proves the point of my post.

Hamxa89

24th March 2012, 20:42

How beastly is this guy? Literally blasted 3 men (that too of impressive size) out of his way :)))

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/143900/143952.jpg

:14: !!! That. is. Powa! :holding

Waq

24th March 2012, 20:51

How beastly is this guy? Literally blasted 3 men (that too of impressive size) out of his way :)))

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/143900/143952.jpg

:14: !!! That. is. Powa! :holding

Still no sign of Afridi's daughter in this shot? I do not buy his excuse.

The more I see the video or see images like the above, I get a greater sense of disgust.

With regards to security, it appears that it was indeed not adequate but because of failing to protect celebrities but to protect members of public from Afridi. That man in white was obviously holding Afridi back and is some form of security/hired goon. You can also make out a police hat/beret next to his shoulder.

It is a blessing that Afridi has no boxing skills or the poor men would have been seriously hurt.

straightdrive1

24th March 2012, 20:53

hazmat

24th March 2012, 20:53

I stand corrected what I said, I dont feel like exposing his munaafiqat ( details of his eye witnessed activities) here on public forum to strangers.

You can assume what make you feel better about me.

Then why mention it at all then? I think that it is time that you either put up or shut up. You do this repeatedly and frankly it is getting tiresome.

Waq

24th March 2012, 21:02

Afridi is lucky that he is in Pakistan, which is as corrupt as can be.

In the UK, regardless of whether the 3 members of public make a complaint or not, Afridi can still be arrested, locked in a police cell and made to face the court for various criminal offences.

PakCrikNeedsFixin

24th March 2012, 21:05

Man in white is not some hired goon lol it's his brother

Hamxa89

24th March 2012, 21:08

Still no sign of Afridi's daughter in this shot? I do not buy his excuse.

The more I see the video or see images like the above, I get a greater sense of disgust.

With regards to security, it appears that it was indeed not adequate but because of failing to protect celebrities but to protect members of public from Afridi. That man in white was obviously holding Afridi back and is some form of security/hired goon. You can also make out a police hat/beret next to his shoulder.

It is a blessing that Afridi has no boxing skills or the poor men would have been seriously hurt.

Yaar I think you're the only who is gripping on to this lame angle to bash him :P Better find any other because this one is getting pretty stale. There are people who are disagreeing or condemning Afridi's behavior, but they've got better reasons to do so.. Aap nay wakhra he point pakra huwa hai :)))

Oh and btw, the guy in white is his brother, Mushtaq.

Waq

24th March 2012, 21:15

Yaar I think you're the only who is gripping on to this lame angle to bash him :P Better find any other because this one is getting pretty stale. There are people who are disagreeing or condemning Afridi's behavior, but they've got better reasons to do so.. Aap nay wakhra he point pakra huwa hai :)))

Oh and btw, the guy in white is his brother, Mushtaq.

I have given plenty of reasons why I do not believe Afridi. Why don't you utilise your time by reviewing the thread and answering my questions on why I doubt Afridi's version of events?

If you cannot be bothered then I cannot help you. Why do we bother trying to understand how Al Qaeda can brainwash our youngsters into becoming terrorists when somebody like Afridi can brainwash youngsters into believing he can do no wrong! We should conduct a study on his secret brain washing powers.

Hamxa89

24th March 2012, 21:26

I have given plenty of reasons why I do not believe Afridi. Why don't you utilise your time by reviewing the thread and answering my questions on why I doubt Afridi's version of events?

If you cannot be bothered then I cannot help you. Why do we bother trying to understand how Al Qaeda can brainwash our youngsters into becoming terrorists when somebody like Afridi can brainwash youngsters into believing he can do no wrong! We should conduct a study on his secret brain washing powers.

Reviewing the thread to answer your questions wont be "utilization" of my time but utter wastage of it..

Afridi has been mobbed by crowd and asked for autographs a lot of times.. I'm sure he has also copped several "pleasantries" from people plenty of times, but this is the only occasion he has acted in such a manner. Going by that, I believe what reasoning Afridi has to offer ( his behavior being right or wrong, is a whole separate issue) .. Till there is no evidence which can refute Afridi's claim, I see no reason to not believe him.

Comparing Al Qaeda with Afridi? I think we know who has gotten his brain washed.

Waq

24th March 2012, 21:48

Reviewing the thread to answer your questions wont be "utilization" of my time but utter wastage of it..

Afridi has been mobbed by crowd and asked for autographs a lot of times.. I'm sure he has also copped several "pleasantries" from people plenty of times, but this is the only occasion he has acted in such a manner. Going by that, I believe what reasoning Afridi has to offer ( his behavior being right or wrong, is a whole separate issue) .. Till there is no evidence which can refute Afridi's claim, I see no reason to not believe him.

Comparing Al Qaeda with Afridi? I think we know who has gotten his brain washed.

Yet you are able to utilise your time to tell me to give it a rest? You can review the thread as I have been active on it and attempt to answer my queries. If you choose not to than so be it. Argue for arguments sake.

I disbelieve Afridi because I have been afforded the luxury of evidence, namely a video of him assaulting 3 people! You cannot get much more evidence than that.

Do you serious believe that I made a direct comparison with Al Qaeda and Afridi. Naughty naughty dear boy - keep things in context!

Hamxa89

24th March 2012, 22:19

Yet you are able to utilise your time to tell me to give it a rest? You can review the thread as I have been active on it and attempt to answer my queries. If you choose not to than so be it. Argue for arguments sake.

I disbelieve Afridi because I have been afforded the luxury of evidence, namely a video of him assaulting 3 people! You cannot get much more evidence than that.

Do you serious believe that I made a direct comparison with Al Qaeda and Afridi. Naughty naughty dear boy - keep things in context!

Yeah because that might actually make a difference.. Me answering your questions won't make any difference to your stance..

You disbelieve Afridi because of the incident itself? :facepalm: He threw a punch at a guy so whatever reason he'll give is false. Great logic mate! This " luxury of evidence" was afforded to all the people here and the media too. Yet, we don't see many arguing on this exact point.. Again, aapka point he wakhra hai!

You brought the ridiculous brain-washing thing up..

Markhor

24th March 2012, 22:23

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/143900/143952.jpg

Shalwaar kameez guy :))) :))) I think he's dancing.

Oh that and Geo adding sound effects is just hilarious.

MenInG

24th March 2012, 22:28

Zaid65 and others - keep off the personal stuff - off Afridi or off each other

Tallk about this incident but DO NOT make any allegations that you cannot back up without references

This thread is taking too much of moderation time and we are now looking at summary bannings for frequent violaters of posting rules.

Waq

24th March 2012, 22:50

Me answering your questions won't make any difference to your stance..

Why do you not give it a try - it's one of the uses of a forum?

I am happy to debate on why I think Afridi acted like a thug and why I disbelieve that he assaulted 3 people because his daughter was being pushed. This is my opinion and I am happy for it to be changed but you must enter into debate and talk sense. Afridi did not shoot my dog and I have nothing personal against him.

Should you wish to debate, then my points have been made for all to see on why I believe it is thuggery.

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 22:52

Yeah because that might actually make a difference.. Me answering your questions won't make any difference to your stance..

You disbelieve Afridi because of the incident itself? :facepalm: He threw a punch at a guy so whatever reason he'll give is false. Great logic mate! This " luxury of evidence" was afforded to all the people here and the media too. Yet, we don't see many arguing on this exact point.. Again, aapka point he wakhra hai!

You brought the ridiculous brain-washing thing up..

why are u wasting your time with Waq? I think even if there was proof, he would still say Afridi did wrong, let him be.

Waq

24th March 2012, 22:55

why are u wasting your time with Waq? I think even if there was proof, he would still say Afridi did wrong, let him be.

Oh come on Ali, as I just said above - Afridi did not shoot my dog!

Why do some Afridi fan not wish to enter a sensible discussion on the incident? I am still waiting....

Hamxa89

24th March 2012, 23:02

Why do you not give it a try - it's one of the uses of a forum?

I am happy to debate on why I think Afridi acted like a thug and why I disbelieve that he assaulted 3 people because his daughter was being pushed. This is my opinion and I am happy for it to be changed but you must enter into debate and talk sense. Afridi did not shoot my dog and I have nothing personal against him.

Should you wish to debate, then my points have been made for all to see on why I believe it is thuggery.

I told you my opinion of why I believe him and I have not yet read something from you, or anyone else to make me believe otherwise.

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:11

Oh come on Ali, as I just said above - Afridi did not shoot my dog!

Why do some Afridi fan not wish to enter a sensible discussion on the incident? I am still waiting....

The fan that Afridi punched has done an interview and said he wasn't even hit and Afridi didn't even try to hit him and there were clearly kids around and he admitted his mistake, what more do you want in a sensible discussion? I just don't get it.

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:13

I told you my opinion of why I believe him and I have not yet read something from you, or anyone else to make me believe otherwise.

And I have posed various questions on why I do not believe the status quo.

If you cannot be bothered to read the thread fully then why waste time arguing with me? You do not even know what points I have made!

You believe Afridi is telling the truth.

Can you answer why Afridi was fuming prior the incident?

Can you answer why he punched two people and threatened to slap another?

Were all three above victims involved in pushing his daughter?

Why did Afridi show no concern towards his daughter if he believed she was pushed or hurt? (prior and after his punches)

Why did Afridi not carry his daughter if he felt she was vulnerable or about to be injured?

Why did Afridi allow himself to exit the airport with family when such a large crowd was present?

Why is there no suggestion in the videos or photos that Afridi's daughter was pushed or injured?

Now Hamax - we know that you believe Afridi abd his version of events so could you answer the above? My questions arise by viewing the same video and feel can be answered by those defending him or even cheering him on.

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:16

And I have posed various questions on why I do not believe the status quo.

If you cannot be bothered to read the thread fully then why waste time arguing with me? You do not even know what points I have made!

You believe Afridi is telling the truth.

Can you answer why Afridi was fuming prior the incident?

Can you answer why he punched two people and threatened to slap another?

Were all three above victims involved in pushing his daughter?

Why did Afridi show no concern towards his daughter if he believed she was pushed or hurt? (prior and after his punches)

Why did Afridi not carry his daughter if he felt she was vulnerable or about to be injured?

Why did Afridi allow himself to exit the airport with family when such a large crowd was present?

Why is there no suggestion in the videos or photos that Afridi's daughter was pushed or injured?

Now Hamax - we know that you believe Afridi abd his version of events so could you answer the above? My questions arise by viewing the same video and feel can be answered by those defending him or even cheering him on.

So why did you ignore more post above? hmmmmm.

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:16

The fan that Afridi punched has done an interview and said he wasn't even hit and Afridi didn't even try to hit him and there were clearly kids around and he admitted his mistake, what more do you want in a sensible discussion? I just don't get it.

Have you seen the video?

I am doubtful that you have, because the video shows him punch two people and threaten to slap somebody behind him.

Which fan said he was not hit? The video shows 3 clear victims.

Why do you think Afridi did not try to hit somebody? :))) Afridi lunged forward with a closed fist and tried to let rip with two hayemakers. I do not know what video you have been watching! One should not confuse lack of boxing skills with not attempting to punch someone.

You also mention in your post that there were clearly kids around. Again, which video have you been watching as I see no kids. Can you elaborate?

zid60

24th March 2012, 23:17

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:18

So why did you ignore more post above? hmmmmm.

Come on cheeteh - I can't type that fast like you youngster beauties!

Please see the above post as a suitable reply :zaka

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:19

Have you seen the video?

I am doubtful that you have, because the video shows him punch two people and threaten to slap somebody behind him.

Which fan said he was not hit? The video shows 3 clear victims.

Why do you think Afridi did not try to hit somebody? :))) Afridi lunged forward with a closed fist and tried to let rip with two hayemakers. I do not know what video you have been watching! One should not confuse lack of boxing skills with not attempting to punch someone.

You also mention in your post that there were clearly kids around. Again, which video have you been watching as I see no kids. Can you elaborate?

Ok Waq please go away, the post below you, you can spend your time and watch those videos before telling other posters to go away because they have not read the thread or done enough information, you have been convicted of the same thing! :facepalm:

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:20

Ok Waq please go away, the post below you, you can spend your time and watch those videos before telling other posters to go away because they have not read the thread or done enough information, you have been convicted of the same thing!

?? I am confused by your post.

Why do you seem rattled for? What part confuses you?

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:22

?? I am confused by your post.

Why do you seem rattled for? What part confuses you?

You said you had no clue what I was talking about when I said the guy who was punched says it was his fault, and you're telling other posters to read the thread and your posts thoroughly when you haven't done so yourself. :facepalm:

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Waq

24th March 2012, 23:25

You said you had no clue what I was talking about when I said the guy who was punched says it was his fault, and you're telling other posters to read the thread and your posts thoroughly. :facepalm:

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Thank you for the video. Why do you not think for yourself, Allah has given us all a brain.

Which fan is the one being interviewed, since he assaulted 3 people.

Where are these many children in the video you mention?

Why do you feel Afridi did not punch anybody?

Ali my dear friend, my earlier post is crystal clear. Please try and answer and make me understand.

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:27

Have you seen the video?

I am doubtful that you have, because the video shows him punch two people and threaten to slap somebody behind him.

Which fan said he was not hit? The video shows 3 clear victims.

Why do you think Afridi did not try to hit somebody? :))) Afridi lunged forward with a closed fist and tried to let rip with two hayemakers. I do not know what video you have been watching! One should not confuse lack of boxing skills with not attempting to punch someone.

You also mention in your post that there were clearly kids around. Again, which video have you been watching as I see no kids. Can you elaborate?

My dear friend Ali, I have re-quoted my post to assist you with my observations. Do you wish to comment as we must be talking about two different incidents here if you feel that Afridi did not try to punch somebody.

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:28

Thank you for the video. Why do you not think for yourself, Allah has given us all a brain.

Which fan is the one being interviewed, since he assaulted 3 people.

Where are these many children in the video you mention?

Why do you feel Afridi did not punch anybody?

Ali my dear friend, my earlier post is crystal clear. Please try and answer and make me understand.

The videos are all over the thread, I'm not going to go looking around the videos for you, you can surely do that yourself because you are telling others to go read the entire thread, so should you have not done the same before telling others?

In those videos IN THIS THREAD, you can see kids waiting at the car, you can hear Afridi himself saying there are kids around after he punched the guy and when he threatened to slap the other guy, Brother please...

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:28

Afridis interview after...

and the person involved..

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:afridi:afridi:afridi

didnt hit anyone...

Thank you for the links friend. The first video reconfirms my view Afridi is simply looking to damage control the situation and it was never about his daughter but his temper.

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:30

The videos are all over the thread, I'm not going to go looking around the videos for you, you can surely do that yourself because you are telling others to go read the entire thread, so should you have not done the same before telling others?

In those videos IN THIS THREAD, you can see kids waiting at the car, you can hear Afridi himself saying there are kids around after he punched the guy and when he threatened to slap the other guy, Brother please...

Ali bhai, stop toying with my emotions. I have watched all the videos on this thread and also made the effort to read all the posts. I see no children in any video. Why do you refuse to point out the post number or provide a link?

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:35

Ali bhai, stop toying with my emotions. I have watched all the videos on this thread and also made the effort to read all the posts. I see no children in any video. Why do you refuse to point out the post number or provide a link?

No, I don't think you have watched all the videos.

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At 0: 43 you can hear Afridi say there are kids around before he threatens the guy with the slap, at the same time look below, do you not see the little kid?

You are toying with your own emotions.

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:38

No, I don't think you have watched all the videos.

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At 0: 43 you can hear Afridi say there are kids around before he threatens the guy with the slap, at the same time look below, do you not see the little kid?

You are toying with your own emotions.

Thank you for the link.

I see a glimpse of a short person - nothing to suggest that it is his child or a member of public's child. What is strange though is that this short person is not seen being placed in the car by Afridi or even acknowledged.

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:44

Thank you for the link.

I see a glimpse of a short person - nothing to suggest that it is his child or a member of public's child. What is strange though is that this short person is not seen being placed in the car by Afridi or even acknowledged.

Sorry man, i give up!! :facepalm: X 10000

Express Pace

24th March 2012, 23:45

Waq

24th March 2012, 23:49

Sorry man, i give up!! :facepalm: X 10000

You have still avoided my questions I directed towards yourself. In that case save your wrist muscles for Afridi posters rather then waste it on the keyboard. There is little discussion between us.

DoosraTeesra

24th March 2012, 23:50

All Afridi Haters, Watch this video. It is clearly audible of him saying "bachay kharay hain hat jao" .
you can also see hand of his daughter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=RJZhBbW2uEI&annotation_id=annotation_316912&feature=iv&v=W9C-LPC6xeU

LegendAli

24th March 2012, 23:51

Looking at the videos again today, I stand by comments that Afridi is a clown and should be banned from international cricket. This is not the first time he has been involved in controversy, attacking two fans and lunging toward another. Even if his daughter had been pushed, which there is no evidence for, it doesn't warrant such disgusting and abusive behaviour.

The guy/s who were punched don't have a problem with it, why do you?

You have still avoided my questions I directed towards yourself. In that case save your wrist muscles for Afridi posters rather then waste it on the keyboard. There is little discussion between us.

I have proven you numerous times within the past couple hours, yet you are still continuing to question me, you have time to reply to me and show you everything in front but you won't spend your time doing that yourself.