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Eagle_Eye
5th April 2012, 09:51
I am shocked its not banned already!!...... Doesn't Karnataka have a high literacy rate?



Hundreds of villagers assembled last week at the Sri Santeswar temple near Indi, in the state of Karnataka, to watch as infants were tossed from a concrete structure on the temple’s terrace onto a cloth held below.
Around 200 babies are dropped by their parents every year while crowds sing and dance. Most of the infants are under two years old.
The ritual takes place in the first week of December, and is believed to bring health and luck to new arrivals.
Couples participate in the tradition in the hope that they will be blessed with children.
The ritual is said to have existed for over a hundred years, although some claim it is seven centuries old. It has recently met with opposition from local authorities.
The deputy commissioner for the Bijapur district, R. Shantaraj, said “As I am new to the district, I did not know about the unusual ritual, which is inhuman and terrifying for babies. “I intend to prevent the people from indulging in such acts [in future].”
The Karnataka Commission for the Protection of Child Rights is investigating the festival.
Its chairman, Nenna Nayak, said “We have sought a report from the district administration on the ritual to prevent a repeat of it.” She also plans to demand an explanation from the priests involved.
The commission, which was established this year, is only the fifth such state commission in India. It has the right to summon anyone to a hearing, and can recommend legal action against abusers of children's rights.
According to Indian news sources, however, the temple’s president Kasugouda Biradar did not see anything dangerous in the ritual.
“By doing this, such kids will be healthy, strong, and live longer,” he told the Indo-Asian news service.
Baby-throwing rituals have had worldwide attention since August, when an Indian TV crew filmed footage of screaming infants being dropped from a 50 foot temple tower in Haranga, a village in the West Indian state of Maharashtra.
A similar custom has been recorded at the Baba Umer Durga shrine in the village of Solapur, about 280 miles south of Mumbai.
A spokesman for the Indian Council for Child Welfare said that teh coucil had not heard of the events in Bijapur, and possessed no record of children being hurt in such rituals.
Muslim and Hindu communities both take part in these events, but the festivals’ origins are unclear.
Dr Renate Söhen-Thieme, a professor at the School of Oriental and African Studies, London, said “There is the possibility that some customs may have existed unnoticed and unrecorded amongst a locally restricted segment of society.”
She added that the ritual is “certainly not part of the classical Hindu tradition” but nor does it adhere to Muslim precepts.
The “strange” name of the Solapur shrine, however, “shows a mixture of Muslim and Hindu elements,” which suggests there are a variety of influences on local practices.
Tom Hall, travel editor for Lonely Planet, which publishes the guide A Year of Festivals, said that India was notable for its “rich festival tradition, which allows us to see the country at its most colourful and chaotic”.
Many areas are fiercely protective of their customs.
In August, for instance, police who attempted to stop a rock-pelting festival in central India were attacked and forced to withdraw by angry villagers.
Mr Hall added that outlandish traditions supposed to bring luck to infants could be found throughout the world. In Castillo de Murcia, Spain, the El Colacho festival sees men dressed as devils jump over rows of toddlers. It is believed the rite cleanses the children of evil spirits.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/6771374/Indian-baby-tossing-ceremony-may-be-banned.html

Blitz
5th April 2012, 10:20
....well that explains where the Sachinists come from.

Kwremb
5th April 2012, 10:40
....well that explains where the Sachinists come from.

:))) Gold :))

AnotherIndian
5th April 2012, 13:52
Its India... Anything is possible.... We don't have any central Religious body to tell what is acceptable and what is not...

I bet there are much worse ceremonies if they go into deep remote villages..

KingKhanWC
5th April 2012, 15:32
....well that explains where the Sachinists come from.

:))) :))) Potw.

Strange people.

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freelance_cricketer
5th April 2012, 16:16
Sick. I also find it lame when people just for fun toss their babies up in the air. They do catch it 10/10 times, but still its quite lame, unnecessary and weird way of playing with your or anyone's baby. :facepalm:

I wouldn't play silly games with my baby and i'd toss anyone who'd dare to do those stunts on him/her.

AnotherIndian
5th April 2012, 16:22
Some idiot might have started and it might have brought good luck to the boy.... Then it became a tradition and just tie a saffron cloth around it and it becomes part of Hinduism....

Its very easy to make anything part of Hindu religion. :P

velu
5th April 2012, 16:27
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Anyway i saw abt this festival in news 3 or 4 years back and its sick that this is still happening.

freelance_cricketer
5th April 2012, 16:33
Must have seen this as well. :facepalm:

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Smiling Creed
5th April 2012, 17:00
Some idiot might have started and it might have brought good luck to the boy.... Then it became a tradition and just tie a saffron cloth around it and it becomes part of Hinduism....

Its very easy to make anything part of Hindu religion. :P

It's not part of Hindu religion.....the post shows clearly that local muslims also take part. I guess it is a local tradition cutting across religious lines...which is a good thing to happen in India.

AnotherIndian
5th April 2012, 17:58
Must have seen this as well. :facepalm:

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Snake Charmers :facepalm:

This guy would have been arrested if he was in any Western Country :asif

Thank God, this is not part of Hinduism :danish

velu
5th April 2012, 19:09
Must have seen this as well. :facepalm:

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:facepalm:

this is worse than OP , how can someone just watch when a baby tries to play with a poisonous snake :(
really scary

Runner Up
5th April 2012, 19:18
I watched it in one of Pak news channel. It looked horrible.

Eagle_Eye
5th April 2012, 22:00
Must have seen this as well. :facepalm:

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It sends a chill down my spine....My son is same age as this little boy.

Desi_Joker
5th April 2012, 22:34
....well that explains where the Sachinists come from.

:))

Hit for :six

Looney
6th April 2012, 03:23
:facepalm:

this is worse than OP , how can someone just watch when a baby tries to play with a poisonous snake :(
really scary

the snake is not venomous

RWAC
6th April 2012, 03:28
From what I read, the snake had its' fangs taken out since it belongs to a snake charmer.

Looney
6th April 2012, 03:56
Nobody watches Billy the Exterminator here ? :P Snakes are more likely to be non venomous if their pupils are round in shapes .

RWAC
6th April 2012, 04:01
Nobody watches Billy the Exterminator here ? :P Snakes are more likely to be non venomous if their pupils are round in shapes .

Hmmm...not sure about Billy the Exterminator...but the second line does make sense there. :P

velu
6th April 2012, 05:37
the snake is not venomous

thats a cobra :71:

Nobody watches Billy the Exterminator here ? :P Snakes are more likely to be non venomous if their pupils are round in shapes .

i am not sure abt this , if we remove the fans of any poisonous snake , it cant bite till the fans grows back ..
i if i see any snakes i will :runaway:

freelance_cricketer
6th April 2012, 06:02
Wouldn't let a baby play with a snake even if its non poisonous. Its stupid.

freelance_cricketer
6th April 2012, 06:03
I remember being tossed high in the air by an uncle for fun when i was a baby. :facepalm:



I hold a grudge against him. :))

azhar329
6th April 2012, 06:04
What if the baby has a bad landing in terms of the angle of the neck; this is crazy!

kkmix
6th April 2012, 06:22
Another one of those "only in India" moments.

QazzarFan
6th April 2012, 06:47
Another one of those "only in India" moments.

Although this is a very strange practice, these sort of bizarre practices are common in many countries, cultures, gypsies, tribals. Being Geisha is still practiced in Japan, men would castrate themselves to get imperial jobs in China, practices of foot binding were common in China where young girls would have their foot bound to prevent it from growing normally and to this day lots of elderly women can be seen with foot disability, child's tooth is thrown on the roof for 'good luck' in Greece, Bulgaria, India as well as Jamaica. Brazil celebrates New years day with lentil soup, tooth fairy practice in Western countries.

freelance_cricketer
6th April 2012, 06:49
What if the baby has a bad landing in terms of the angle of the neck; this is crazy!

Exactly, considering the fact that SC people are poor fielders as well. :kami

Poison
6th April 2012, 07:19
Just makes you think who the nutter was who first thought of this?

dell79
6th April 2012, 07:28
Maybe it's getting banned because they heard Kamran Akmal is coming this year.

freelance_cricketer
6th April 2012, 07:42
maybe it's getting banned because they heard kamran akmal is coming this year.

:)) :)))

Kwremb
6th April 2012, 07:44
Maybe it's getting banned because they heard Kamran Akmal is coming this year.

:))) Drop it like it's hot Drop it like it's hot LMAO :))

Eagle_Eye
6th April 2012, 09:30
Maybe it's getting banned because they heard Kamran Akmal is coming this year.

:))) ... Ghoomay gee!!

shahrukh619
6th April 2012, 12:55
poor stuff from the stupid muslims, who like to follow these stupid ceremonies

AnotherIndian
6th April 2012, 13:45
poor stuff from the stupid muslims, who like to follow these stupid ceremonies

Its a cultural thing...

Most people are poor there and would do anything for that little bit of luck that can bring them some money....

It all stems from poverty first and later on it becomes part of the culture...

Senman
6th April 2012, 14:22
Poor stuff , should follow Singaporean or South Korean education system to achieve maximum literacy rate. Only education will change this mindset of misguided fools.

mithun_minhas
6th April 2012, 14:24
Poor stuff , should follow Singaporean or South Korean education system to achieve maximum literacy rate. Only education will change this mindset of misguided fools.

You cannot stop them as it seems to have taken a religious twist..

Nobody wants to anger Gods.

Senman
6th April 2012, 14:36
You cannot stop them as it seems to have taken a religious twist..

Nobody wants to anger Gods.

That is another problem in this part of the world you can easily stop any rational , logical discussion by mentioning God.

Needs to be changed but can't find any solution other than education and hope for the best.

velu
6th April 2012, 15:16
poor stuff from the stupid muslims, who like to follow these stupid ceremonies


not only muslims but hindus are also doing this crazy thing with muslims :facepalm:

IMO there are many crazy customs like this which are all inherited and still followed in many parts of india ..

Sufi
6th April 2012, 23:46
Baby tossing. ..
The thought of it Cracks me up.

Pakistaniboy
6th April 2012, 23:50
I don`t think people will stop with this, it seems like they consider this as something holy and blessing for them

MVP26
7th April 2012, 04:00
Crazy stuff. What if the angle gets messed up then what?

musaarthali
7th April 2012, 04:15
Its a cultural thing...

Most people are poor there and would do anything for that little bit of luck that can bring them some money....

It all stems from poverty first and later on it becomes part of the culture...

more than money a btter livelihood for their childrens..thats one thing we have to happy about parents in these part of world where parents really care , especially poor , who dont want their children end of like them

Methods are wrong but we cant question the reason...

PakPrince
7th April 2012, 05:24
more than money a btter livelihood for their childrens..thats one thing we have to happy about parents in these part of world where parents really care , especially poor , who dont want their children end of like them

Methods are wrong but we cant question the reason...

but serious just think of it rationally! can this stupid practise lead to anything good?

superstition and these 'lucky' practises are too entrenched in the subcontinent psyche especially among the older generations