Takmeel e Pakistan - Zaid Hamid

[youboy]

The Strategy of Takmeel e Pakistan and Wisdom of Madina e Sani

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

When we warned them of anarchy, chaos, 4thGW, AfPak, Cold start, urban war and economic collapse and warned them of traitors and plotters within our ranks- the idiots or the traitors called us conspiracy theorists !! When we demanded that army must step in to restore sanity in the political, judicial and media anarchy, then they called us fascists and extremists.

Now watch the filth hitting the roof in Islamabad and see how we warned you of the controlled demolition of the state and its organs at the hands of traitors and fifth columnists. After the press conference of Malik Riaz, even the Chief justice is badly burnt and bruised. We had warned of this scenario in our May 3rd program on ARY with Waseem Badami. They did not listen and now pay the price. Next target of the enemies will be the army chief to complete the meltdown.

We are telling you now. The country is sinking rapidly at the hands of traitors, blackmailers and fifth columnists snakes. Army must NOT remain indifferent, else it should prepare for a bloody urban war which is now all set to explode because of the collapse of the government and judiciary. It is now or never!!!

[freelance_cricketer]

Was missing him recently.




Has he sent his men to Moon yet?:yk

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

When our divine ideology is universal, then how come our borders be confined within lines drawn on map?? For the last 1300 years, during the Khilafat and various Sultan and empires under it, Muslims traveled freely across the Muslim world from China to Andulusia, without any passports or visas! It was enough that you are a Muslim, a brother of faith, that you could trade, marry, byu property and settle in any part of the Ummah! This was the real power of Islam and its brotherhood which flowed knowledge, wealth, trade, sciences and technology as well as culture, languages and traditions across the entire globe freely. With gold as currency, there were no issues of forex exchanges or currency conversions. Me were truly free!

Then came this system of Dajjal. After the destruction of Khilafat in 1921, lines were drawn on maps and Ummah was divided into small pieces of land, passports and visas were introduced, every land was given a fake paper currency and traveling of Muslims within the Ummah was blocked! That was our downfall !

Within the Ummah, this is our mission. To bring back the Ummah as one solid body, where states and nations are only administrative units but with same currency, no visas, no passports, no restrictions to travel, trades or marriages. This is the wisdom of this deen. This is what all the greats had advised us to protect jealously! This is your duty now to achieve! InshAllah, we will.

[Third Umpire]

Kya chay banda hai...

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

There are now reports of US aircraft carrier entering Pakistani waters near Gawader. Indians have been involved in attacking across the Line of Control for the past 2 days. It seems that the external threats of Af-Pak and Cold start are now flexing their muscles as the chaos and anarchy through the 4thGW reaches its peak in Islamabad and in rest of the country.

We had warned about this threatening scenario months ago. When the 4GW would reach its critical levels of collapse and controlled demolition, the external threats of invasion would rise. Hindu Zionists want to fight Pakistan to the last crusaders! US wants to deploy Indians on ground against Pak sarzameen.

Welcome. We wait in ambush! Remember this, we will NOT take prisoners. You can enter into Pakistan but by Allah, you will never leave this land alive!

Months ago, we had filed petition against Traitor media and their information war against Pak Sarzameen. CJ refused to hear that. We had asked the CJ to remove this regime over treason, corruption and siding with the enemies. He refused to do that also. Now he is fatally wounded by this regime and treacherous media and the collapse is now total in Islamabad.

We have no problems with the enemies from the outside. If we are burnt it is because of those within our ranks, pretending to be our leaders, "free media" and "azaad adlia"!!

Dana dushman is not a threat to us but a Munafiq within our ranks or a nadan dost in power over us. These snakes will be removed first InshAllah! The process has begun. You can see that now.

[Amar786]

A scandal threatens Pakistan’s most respected public figure

IFTIKHAR CHAUDHRY, the chief justice, is a hero in Pakistan. He heads the Supreme Court—the only institution in the country seen to be relatively free of corruption. So allegations in the Supreme Court on June 12th that he turned a blind eye to his own son’s corruption have traumatised the country.

In 2007 Mr Chaudhry had stood up to Pakistan’s military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, who had removed him from office, inspiring a protest movement that ultimately toppled the general. Since being reinstated to office in 2009, Mr Chaudhry has relentlessly pursued corruption in the government and human-rights violations perpetrated by the army. For many, Mr Chaudhry and the Supreme Court were the only hope in a country drowning in slime. Now he is fighting to save his own name and job.
In this section

Mr Chaudhry’s weakness, it is alleged, is his son, 32-year-old Arsalan Iftikhar. Back in 2006, the father had tried unsuccessfully to bend the rules to get his boy a job in the police. This was one of the reasons General Musharraf gave for dismissing Mr Chaudhry the following year. Now Mr Iftikhar stands accused of taking $3.6m in kickbacks from Malik Riaz, a wealthy property magnate. He denies any wrongdoing. Although he admitted in court that someone else paid the rent for stays in swish London apartments, he insists that he reimbursed the money, calling the allegations “frivolous and unfounded”.

The man who picked up the tab turned out to be working for Mr Riaz, a rags-to-riches businessman who runs a property empire called Bahria Town. It is Mr Riaz who made the accusations on June 12th in the Supreme Court. The official protocol and security provided for his court appearance would have suited a head of state; roads were cleared of traffic and police deployed in force. It seemed appropriate for someone whose money has brought him influence, and who has been called the most powerful man in Pakistan.

Mr Riaz claimed in court to have paid $3.6m to Mr Iftikhar, who was later described by the businessman as a “don” controlling the judiciary (run by his father). Mr Riaz alleges that he was the victim of “blackmailing” by Mr Iftikhar, who he claims offered to fix cases for the tycoon in return for cash and lavish holidays to London and Monte Carlo. In what appears to have been a carefully laid trap, Mr Riaz was collecting evidence on Mr Iftikhar for at least the past two years. Mr Riaz did not directly accuse Mr Chaudhry of corruption, and there is no evidence that the chief justice benefited from the money, but he also apparently asked no questions about his son’s extravagant ways. Mr Riaz concedes that he gained no favours from the courts.

Mr Riaz has long been a controversial figure, known to be close to Pakistan’s president, Asif Zardari. A 2010 judicial inquiry found that “where [Mr Riaz] established housing projects, officials of his choice are posted and they are blindly following his dictates and facilitating him in land grabbing and tax evasion.” The scandal has exposed the influence of Mr Riaz, which appears to reach everywhere, and the brouhaha has got people in Pakistan gossiping about nothing else.

Mr Riaz is also said to have close ties with journalists, media moguls and religious extremists alike—the radical cleric of Islamabad’s Red Mosque, Abdul Aziz, is housed by Bahria Town. The company also employs the daughter of the head of Pakistan’s anti-corruption watchdog, which last week revived a dormant investigation into Mr Riaz’s business dealings. Mr Riaz, or his company, have some 100 court cases pending against them which implicate them in crimes ranging from murder to land-grabs. He protests his innocence but admitted in a television interview on June 13th that he gives money to politicians, claiming that all businessmen do so.

The question on everyone’s lips is why he has launched this high-stakes battle with the judiciary and whether he has been encouraged to do so by Mr Asif Zardari or the army’s top brass. Both have been savaged by Mr Chaudhry’s court. If Mr Riaz’s accusations were the generals’ revenge on Mr Chaudhry, they were counter productive. Mr Riaz has extensive business dealings with the army, which is a huge property developer through its Defence Housing Authority.

Now, Pakistani media are focusing on that partnership, which is alleged to have involved defrauding tens of thousands of people in a housing scheme called DHA Valley, near Islamabad. Corruption in the army was previously only whispered about, yet the furore provoked by Mr Riaz meant that this week television talk-shows openly discussed supposed links between Mr Riaz and the men in uniform. Mr Zardari may be the biggest winner from all the muck-spreading, as his tormentors in the media, the army and now even the judiciary stand accused of the kind of sleaze that has dogged him for years.

Pakistan, as ever, is the loser. As Khawaja Asif, an opposition member of parliament, laments, “This shows what a degenerate society we have become. Everyone’s up for sale.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21556987

It seems like zaid hamid's theory is true.

[PetroDollars]

^^^
Whats his theory?

[Looney]

Ghazwa e Hind is near

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[Stewie]

Aw eff's sake, seriously?

[PakPrince]

clown will always remain a clown :)

[Amar786]

^^^
Whats his theory?

Now watch the filth hitting the roof in Islamabad and see how we warned you of the controlled demolition of the state and its organs at the hands of traitors and fifth columnists. After the press conference of Malik Riaz, even the Chief justice is badly burnt and bruised. We had warned of this scenario in our May 3rd program on ARY with Waseem Badami. They did not listen and now pay the price. Next target of the enemies will be the army chief to complete the meltdown.

[shortbread]

Now watch the filth hitting the roof in Islamabad and see how we warned you of the controlled demolition of the state and its organs at the hands of traitors and fifth columnists. After the press conference of Malik Riaz, even the Chief justice is badly burnt and bruised. We had warned of this scenario in our May 3rd program on ARY with Waseem Badami. They did not listen and now pay the price. Next target of the enemies will be the army chief to complete the meltdown.

Is this the same army chief who went unscathed despite four american helicopters and soldiers entered Abbotabad and the army was caught napping, extremists attacked and held people inside an airbase, the same army chief who never offered answers as to why 24 pakistani soldiers never recieved air support when they were killed by nato fighters inside Pakistan while defending the country?!!

[PetroDollars]

Looking at the whole Anchorgate, Mediagate stuff, i think one thing everyone will agree on, despite what you think of Zaid Hamid, HE CAN NEVER BE BROUGHT LIKE THE OTHERS.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

We had been warning you about the sinister and treacherous role of "Madar pidar azaad" media in Pakistan. Now the filth has hit the roof as the arrogant media houses rip each other apart in a "dog eat dog" battle and also bringing down the Chief Justice and the last remains of state.

The entire private media has proven that they do not deserve to be in Pakistan. Now we demand that this private, corrupt, treacherous and sinister media be shut down in Pakistan. Lets go back to good old only PTV days !!!

If the CJ jhad listened to our petition against treacherous media, he would not have been humiliated but today he is forced to take up the role of media in creating anarchy in Pak Sarzameen.

The entire media is involved in this war against Pak Sarzameen. You will note that all powerful media houses have joined hands to block our azaan and we are not allowed to defend Pakistan on any media. All these so called "patriotic" anchors who are very noisy today "exposing" the media corruption have also been the most venomous enemies of mission of BrassTacks and Takmeel e Pakistan and always try to humiliate the sacred duty our team is doing. You never hear them talking about system of Khilafat e Rashida or AfPak threats, Cold start or 4th GW. They will never tell you that this democracy has been imposed to break Pakistan on the lines of Iraq or Yugoslavia. They will never talk about Iqbal or Islamic clauses of the Constitution. They will never speak against Riba and Banking system -- and these are ones whom you consider patriotic!!!! Imagine what the traitors do???

They are all the same -- part of the Dajjal system where media is the most powerful weapon for lies, disinformation and propaganda. In these times of war, these anchors, media houses and their owners have declared their own war against Pak Sarzameen and are spreading more chaos, confusion and hatred within the nation. They fight amongst each other only for more turf, power and control of the society -- not for Pak sarzameen.

We had warning the media of most severe accountability. Now the time has come. The private media will have no place in Pakistan now!! They have been measured and found to be idiots or traitors!!! Now the nation will do your accountability and do with you what must be done with traitors!!! CJ this is your last chance to nail them or they will nail you for good!

[ahsan88]

^^ I am inspired.

Can i get an original source for that Quaid-e-Azam quote? :)

[Saudi]

:)) :)) at Zaid Hamid and his followers. How can any sane person think his "strategies" would actually work in this day and age? But I guess khayali palao is better than facing the bitter reality of our situation and current status.

[humzy]

didnt watch the videos but read some of the quotes and i cant help but agree with what he is saying.. country has gone to trash, next obvious stage is complete civil war

[Indiafan]

Looking at the whole Anchorgate, Mediagate stuff, i think one thing everyone will agree on, despite what you think of Zaid Hamid, HE CAN NEVER BE BROUGHT LIKE THE OTHERS.

Yeah but who would buy him? Only people who should pay him is India and RAW. He never suggests any solutions or way forward but just instigates hatred and suspicion of everything. Als makes Pakistan look ridiculous

[youboy]

Yeah but who would buy him? Only people who should pay him is India and RAW. He never suggests any solutions or way forward but just instigates hatred and suspicion of everything. Als makes Pakistan look ridiculous


He is the only one who is giving solutions for the people of Pakistan (according to Quran & Sunnah) from his first series of programs that started since May 2008

[PetroDollars]

Yeah but who would buy him? Only people who should pay him is India and RAW. He never suggests any solutions or way forward but just instigates hatred and suspicion of everything. Als makes Pakistan look ridiculous

Isn't that how the whole Indian media is and when our media has 1 person like your whole media, you Indians **** your pants.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Dear children, remember this. The only destiny for fools, idiots, casuals, stupids and arrogant is slavery and humiliation. The evil powers of today, manipulate the hearts and minds of the youth to enslave them to the system of tyranny and corruption. The media, judicial system and the education system is their weapons.

Bernard Lewis, a contemporary orientalist has categorically said that the modern western civilization and its domination of the world is based on two fundamental professions -- Lawyers and Journalists !!

Lawyers make the laws for system of Dajjal, control the judicial system and prevent the implementation of Sharia and Quranic justice.

The journalist serving the system is an intellectual subversive terrorist and pimp responsible for waging a war of lies, disinformation, propaganda and deceptions.

Today, this fact is blatantly exposed as we see the last phases of 4th generation war against Pak Sarzameen where the top lawyers and the journalists are demolishing the very foundations of Pak Sarzameen.

Revert back to Quran and Sunnah and learn from Iqbal. A Momin is not stupid, naive or idiot. He is too honest to deceive anyone but also too shrewed to be deceived by anyone. We are on this battle station to give you knowledge out of the fog of lies, disinformation and propaganda orchestrated by the journalists and lawyers. Spread and share this knowledge for it is to protect you from slavery of the Dajjal! It is your choice now. You want to live with dignity or live in shame and humiliation? We have made our choice -- a life of dignity, a death of honor!!!!

Rise and protect your honor, freedom and dignity. The snakes have arrived with full force!!!!

[KingKhanWC]

ZH makes some excellent points here. Remember this guy works with the ISI. Of course the Indians and some faux secular liberals can't stand him for obvious reasons but his go-political views are common in the world.

[asif9138]

he makes good points

[Saudi]

ZH makes some excellent points here. Remember this guy works with the ISI. Of course the Indians and some faux secular liberals can't stand him for obvious reasons but his go-political views are common in the world.

What excellent points are these? Please list some so I don't have to read his demented ramblings and waste my time.

[KingKhanWC]

What excellent points are these? Please list some so I don't have to read his demented ramblings and waste my time.

Read his views or not, it makes no difference to me but it's demented to rant without substance. :)

If you really hate his views then you shouldn't have an issue of taking them apart, good luck.

Btw ZH fought for 6 years in Afghanistan against Soviet occupiers, what's your biggest achievement to date?

[Sufi]

What excellent points are these? Please list some so I don't have to read his demented ramblings and waste my time.

ZH is a true patriot for Pakistan and has fought in the Soviet War, and is exposing the truth. No wonder people like you shlt their pants when they hear him speak.

Now go do one, run along little boy. Go fight in a war yourself, educate your mind and then try challenging a great patriot like ZH.

[Aampakistani]

ZH makes some excellent points here. Remember this guy works with the ISI. Of course the Indians and some faux secular liberals can't stand him for obvious reasons but his go-political views are common in the world.

ISI maybe a lot of things negative but Zaid Hamid has never been one of their mistakes. You are clueless about Zaid Hamid if you think he is anything other than a fitna. Just google Zaid Hamid fitna to get your answer

[Aampakistani]

What excellent points are these? Please list some so I don't have to read his demented ramblings and waste my time.

exactly.. Anyone who takes him anything other than his clown value is a mini clown in the making.. Thankfully, after being exposed as a bigot his tv time has decreased drastically but there are still a few idiots who get orgasms dreaming about a nuclear war with India

[Sufi]

exactly.. Anyone who takes him anything other than his clown value is a mini clown in the making.. Thankfully, after being exposed as a bigot his tv time has decreased drastically but there are still a few idiots who get orgasms dreaming about a nuclear war with India


it's only a matter time until India invades Pakistan, you won't be complaining about ZH anymore that's for sure

Indians & delusional Pakistanis love laughing at ZH's sentiments, but he is exposing the truth. Better act now before it's too late.

[Cricketismylife]

Isn't that how the whole Indian media is and when our media has 1 person like your whole media, you Indians **** your pants.

wow, this should make it interesting!

[Saudi]

Read his views or not, it makes no difference to me but it's demented to rant without substance. :)

If you really hate his views then you shouldn't have an issue of taking them apart, good luck.

Btw ZH fought for 6 years in Afghanistan against Soviet occupiers, what's your biggest achievement to date?

What does his fighting against Russia have to do with his inane theories about attacking India/Zionist conspiracies etc? And btw its clear you don't have any other arguments in your arsenal except for ad hominem attacks. Since you love ad hominem attacks so much, why don't you tell me how you have contributed to Pakistan from the UK?

ZH is a true patriot for Pakistan and has fought in the Soviet War, and is exposing the truth. No wonder people like you shlt their pants when they hear him speak.

Now go do one, run along little boy. Go fight in a war yourself, educate your mind and then try challenging a great patriot like ZH.

it's only a matter time until India invades Pakistan, you won't be complaining about ZH anymore that's for sure

Indians & delusional Pakistanis love laughing at ZH's sentiments, but he is exposing the truth. Better act now before it's too late.

Man I love you western based Jihadi types. :)) :)) Can I have an estimate on when India invades Pakistan? I'd like to visit Murree before all hell breaks loose.

[Sufi]

What does his fighting against Russia have to do with his inane theories about attacking India/Zionist conspiracies etc? And btw its clear you don't have any other arguments in your arsenal except for ad hominem attacks. Since you love ad hominem attacks so much, why don't you tell me how you have contributed to Pakistan from the UK?


Man I love you western based Jihadi types. :)) :)) Can I have an estimate on when India invades Pakistan? I'd like to visit Murree before all hell breaks loose.

ZH is right. :)

[humzy]

it's only a matter time until India invades Pakistan, you won't be complaining about ZH anymore that's for sure

Indians & delusional Pakistanis love laughing at ZH's sentiments, but he is exposing the truth. Better act now before it's too late.

lol indias got better things to do than invade a country at the brink of civil war u fool

[Sufi]

lol indias got better things to do than invade a country at the brink of civil war u fool

Keep telling yourself that

Bombs will be landing soon

We must equip ourselves and be ready to defend

Let Zaid Hamid lead us to victory

[Cricketismylife]

Let Zaid Hamid lead us to victory

Serious? :yk

[humzy]

Keep telling yourself that

Bombs will be landing soon

We must equip ourselves and be ready to defend

Let Zaid Hamid lead us to victory

lol you have to be the worst sufi i've ever seen! Get a new job

[youboy]

What does his fighting against Russia have to do with his inane theories about attacking India/Zionist conspiracies etc? And btw its clear you don't have any other arguments in your arsenal except for ad hominem attacks. Since you love ad hominem attacks so much, why don't you tell me how you have contributed to Pakistan from the UK?





Man I love you western based Jihadi types. :)) :)) Can I have an estimate on when India invades Pakistan? I'd like to visit Murree before all hell breaks loose.

Serious? :yk

lol you have to be the worst sufi i've ever seen! Get a new job

It is your choice now. You want to live with dignity or live in shame and humiliation? We have made our choice -- a life of dignity, a death of honor!!!!

[humzy]

It is your choice now. You want to live with dignity or live in shame and humiliation? We have made our choice -- a life of dignity, a death of honor!!!!

shame and humiliation is a biproduct of your ego (nafs).. control your ego and you will no longer be living in shame and humiliation, and instead of venting out your frustrations on other countries you will better yourself until one day you can help those around you overcome their ego also..




The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

-Rumi

[youboy]

shame and humiliation is a biproduct of your ego (nafs).. control your ego and you will no longer be living in shame and humiliation, and instead of venting out your frustrations on other countries you will better yourself until one day you can help those around you overcome their ego also..




The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

-Rumi

A Momin is not stupid, naive or idiot. He is too honest to deceive anyone but also too shrewed to be deceived by anyone.

[youboy]

Zaid Hamid: How to Participate in Takmeel e Pakistan Mission

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[Indiafan]

Isn't that how the whole Indian media is and when our media has 1 person like your whole media, you Indians **** your pants.

Lol, dunno if you have been following Indian media lately but they have moved away from Pakistan long ago. Media exsists to sell what the viewer want and now very few are interested in Pakistan. Viewers have moved on but looks like in Pakistan there is still a market for such views as demonstrated by some people supportingZaid in this thread

[humzy]

A Momin is not stupid, naive or idiot. He is too honest to deceive anyone but also too shrewed to be deceived by anyone.

funny you say that when your own momin leaders are decieving you while u sit and watch like idiots

[Green Leopard]

a brother of faith, that you could trade, marry, byu property and settle in any part of the Ummah! This was the real power of Islam and its brotherhood which flowed knowledge, wealth, trade, sciences and technology as well as culture, languages and traditions across the entire globe freely. With gold as currency, there were no issues of forex exchanges or currency conversions. Me were truly free!

ZH really pushing to make his medieval fantasy escapade come true.

He will better off writing a novel like Tolkien's LOTR capturing all his fantasy desires and selling it to the masses. It would be a hit!

[Cricketismylife]

ZH takes cheap shots and promises false hopes to get youngsters to follow him. HE IS like an taveez waala Baba who promises the world if you follow him.

No sensible man wants/hopes for war like he does. Even inciting others - wth is that?

He is doing more harm to pak than anyone - at best everyone thinks of him and Pak offensive as joke.

At worst - All this baiting and inciting US/India/Israel he keeps doing - is not jokes anymore - one day this is going to give them an excuse (or add fuel to fire) against a new "threat". Thats how most US policy works. Creating monsters out of thin air and justifying millitary/actions of force (drone attacks or similar) to do whatever they want. Why would you want that?

Pak has bigger problems at home to solve rather than planning on world conquests.

[Cricketismylife]

Zaid Hamid: How to Participate in Takmeel e Pakistan Mission

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watched first couple of minutes.

pack of lies about Bangladesh! -pure propaganda style.

have some shame ZH.

[Cricketismylife]

Sad thing is there is not much difference between the real ZH and the one in the video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4-vzFMLoso&feature=related

[youboy]

These six minutes will explain to you your mission, duty, role, passion and path for now we are in the middle of an existential war to defend our honor, faith and land, well and truly surrounded by enemies and snakes from within and without!

Do not be on the wrond side of history! Either you are with Allah (swt), Sayyadi Rasul Allah (sm) and Pak Sarzameen or you are against them. There are no neutrals now. In these times of great crisis when Ummat e Rasul (sm) is in pain, any one not doing his duty to defend Pak Sarzameen against internal and external threats is written as munafiq! Be very careful and join the battle for Haq! The path to izzat is dangerous but thats where the glory is!

This program was recorded almost 2 years ago!!

Zaid Hamid: Aik Sipahi Ki Zarb Karti Hain Kare Sipah !!!

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

When we exposed the media as instruments of war against Pak Sarzameen in this 4th generation war, the media called us an agent of establishment to silence the "freedom of speech"! When we warned the nation that Pakistani media is traitor and acting as propaganda arm of the enemies to destroy our ideological and geographic foundations, they called us an extremist against free media. When we filed a petition in the Supreme court aganinst traitors in media, even the Supreme court got cold feet and was delaying the hearing of our case.

Alhamdolillah, today, Allah has proved us right once again and the most filthy face of media is now exposed to the millat. Now the entire country is talking about the treason, corruption and lies of media tycoons and anchors.

Let us warn you again. The biggest thief in media are shouting the loudest for the "accountability" of media !!!! Each one of them is a criminal and has vested interest to remain "Madar Pidar Azaad"! The traitors are pretending that they are clean and have never taken mone from the outside sources and presenting themselves for accountability. They know fully well that this system is too weak, compromised and corrupt to punish them, hence are confident today that their treason will not be punished despite being exposed. When even the SC is not daring to listen to the petition against traitor media, then who would do the media accountability?

But we assure you, the change is coming inshAllah. There will be most harsh accountability of media very soon, along with these politicians and rulers. The filth has been exposed by Allah (swt). arrogant and traitor Media could not even dream that Allah is about to grip and punish them. The process has just started. Just watch.....

[humzy]

Ive got a new theory on Zaid Hamid.. he is a disinformation agent who spins some truth with some crazy talk. He does this in order to negate the truth talk, as it is then automatically associated with his crazy talk... its a very easy system used to influence masses into not taking any proper logical action as they dont want to be associated with a nutcase like ZH

e.g David Icke, he talks about real worldly problems and then associates them with Alien Reptiles controlling the planet..

[PetroDollars]

Lol, dunno if you have been following Indian media lately but they have moved away from Pakistan long ago. Media exsists to sell what the viewer want and now very few are interested in Pakistan. Viewers have moved on but looks like in Pakistan there is still a market for such views as demonstrated by some people supportingZaid in this thread

:)))

Indian media is obsessed with Pakistan, every single thing is blamed on ISI and twisted in to bollywood style masala flicks.

Its just funny watching how the indians react when they see Zaid Hamid and that's why i love him, not because of his theories or anything but because he brings the same angle to pakistans media what indian media is full off.

[KingKhanWC]

What does his fighting against Russia have to do with his inane theories about attacking India/Zionist conspiracies etc? And btw its clear you don't have any other arguments in your arsenal except for ad hominem attacks. Since you love ad hominem attacks so much, why don't you tell me how you have contributed to Pakistan from the UK?

This thread is about ZH and his topic regarding Pakistan. You only came to this thread to rant without substance. I don't agree with everything he says but he's correct about the Indian/Zionist relationship, if you disagree on this then you're welcome to detail why.:) Oh and stop crying all time.


ISI maybe a lot of things negative but Zaid Hamid has never been one of their mistakes. You are clueless about Zaid Hamid if you think he is anything other than a fitna. Just google Zaid Hamid fitna to get your answer

Here we go, the secular faux liberal arrives. ZH gives advice and consults with the ISI, it's ignorant to suggest he doesn't. People like you are clueless about Pakistan, it will never be a liberal secular nation as you want it to be. Get used to it. :)

[Master Blaster]

This guy gets paid by the IsI to incite hate against India.

He then gets paid by the Indian side to keep repeating it......... :yk

Its a win win situation for everyone involved.

sir Zahil gets paid = happy.
sir Zahil's disciples get multiple orgasms listening to him = happy.
people looking for some lol roll on floor moments = happy. :inti

[Indiafan]

Ive got a new theory on Zaid Hamid.. he is a disinformation agent who spins some truth with some crazy talk. He does this in order to negate the truth talk, as it is then automatically associated with his crazy talk... its a very easy system used to influence masses into not taking any proper logical action as they dont want to be associated with a nutcase like ZH

e.g David Icke, he talks about real worldly problems and then associates them with Alien Reptiles controlling the planet..

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. So any guy who wants to stand out, earn a lot and be popular has to be really good with manuplating people. Zaid is one of those. He is an expert at catching people's popular sentiments and then weaving them into his theories. Pakistanis are fed up of corruption and terrorism. the army is looking out for itself. So common people would be ready to latch on to any hopes, particulary fiercely patriotic people ike Paksitanis. Zaid is good, even the most innocous or the most obvious action by any country he is talking about can be made to look like it fits into his theory.

And of course, everyone ignores how he never offers any solution, just rhetorics. He will say, lets form one strong ummah, but never says how. he says Pakistan will be the top soon but does not suggst how. Attack India, rule the sub-cntinent, US will bow to us. but again how? Whats his 1 year plan,2 yea plan, 5 year plan and targets? He doesnt need to say as all his castles are in the air

Its like those peer babas who fool the people into believing that they can do miracles. There are so many cheap ones but one or two are really good to th extent that they can even fool educated guys. Years of traning makes them guess one or two things right about you, but thats just a trick, not a miracle. Similarly Zaid makes use of a combination of many things. Supposedly inside information through his old sources, not eve 1% of these are correct but when they are, people like KingKhnWC are amazed. Its like Afridi, his one good fluke innings makes you forget all other failures. Apart from that he only makes outlandish claims like Pakistnis on the moon and ruling the sub-continent to stir passions or state obvious issues which even a 10 year old in Pakistan will know. Thats his trick and people fall for it all the time

[Namak_Halaal]

Anyone who does not consider conspiracy theories by default believes every word the media/politicians spouts. This is the truth.

So those of you who are attacking KH because he's a conspiracy theorist must know alternate truth - well let's hear it then?

[youboy]

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. So any guy who wants to stand out, earn a lot and be popular has to be really good with manuplating people. Zaid is one of those. He is an expert at catching people's popular sentiments and then weaving them into his theories. Pakistanis are fed up of corruption and terrorism. the army is looking out for itself. So common people would be ready to latch on to any hopes, particulary fiercely patriotic people ike Paksitanis. Zaid is good, even the most innocous or the most obvious action by any country he is talking about can be made to look like it fits into his theory.

And of course, everyone ignores how he never offers any solution, just rhetorics. He will say, lets form one strong ummah, but never says how. he says Pakistan will be the top soon but does not suggst how. Attack India, rule the sub-cntinent, US will bow to us. but again how? Whats his 1 year plan,2 yea plan, 5 year plan and targets? He doesnt need to say as all his castles are in the air

Its like those peer babas who fool the people into believing that they can do miracles. There are so many cheap ones but one or two are really good to th extent that they can even fool educated guys. Years of traning makes them guess one or two things right about you, but thats just a trick, not a miracle. Similarly Zaid makes use of a combination of many things. Supposedly inside information through his old sources, not eve 1% of these are correct but when they are, people like KingKhnWC are amazed. Its like Afridi, his one good fluke innings makes you forget all other failures. Apart from that he only makes outlandish claims like Pakistnis on the moon and ruling the sub-continent to stir passions or state obvious issues which even a 10 year old in Pakistan will know. Thats his trick and people fall for it all the time


This is the problem of the people like you who like to comment on people whom you don't like.
If you have patience and listen to Zaid Hamid programs which are more than 200 (not his interviews or TV program discussions) he is the only one who has made clear the problems and also gave all the solutions of the questions raised by you in your comments.
So I think it is you who is making comments without listening and reading him. It is your ignorance not his shortfall.

[humzy]

This is the problem of the people like you who like to comment on people whom you don't like.
If you have patience and listen to Zaid Hamid programs which are more than 200 (not his interviews or TV program discussions) he is the only one who has made clear the problems and also gave all the solutions of the questions raised by you in your comments.
So I think it is you who is making comments without listening and reading him. It is your ignorance not his shortfall.

explain some solutions for us then?

[youboy]

explain some solutions for us then?

Please see his programs from the beginning. You will find the solutions.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrassTacksOfficial/videos

[QazzarFan]

Here we go, the secular faux liberal arrives. ZH gives advice and consults with the ISI, it's ignorant to suggest he doesn't. People like you are clueless about Pakistan, it will never be a liberal secular nation as you want it to be. Get used to it. :)

so you are vehemently against Pakistan becoming a secular liberal nation, support Qadri type people to exist and flourish yet you reside in UK and enjoy the same benefits of a liberal secular nation every day.... :14::14:

[smoothcriminal]

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. So any guy who wants to stand out, earn a lot and be popular has to be really good with manuplating people. Zaid is one of those. He is an expert at catching people's popular sentiments and then weaving them into his theories. Pakistanis are fed up of corruption and terrorism. the army is looking out for itself. So common people would be ready to latch on to any hopes, particulary fiercely patriotic people ike Paksitanis. Zaid is good, even the most innocous or the most obvious action by any country he is talking about can be made to look like it fits into his theory.

And of course, everyone ignores how he never offers any solution, just rhetorics. He will say, lets form one strong ummah, but never says how. he says Pakistan will be the top soon but does not suggst how. Attack India, rule the sub-cntinent, US will bow to us. but again how? Whats his 1 year plan,2 yea plan, 5 year plan and targets? He doesnt need to say as all his castles are in the air

Its like those peer babas who fool the people into believing that they can do miracles. There are so many cheap ones but one or two are really good to th extent that they can even fool educated guys. Years of traning makes them guess one or two things right about you, but thats just a trick, not a miracle. Similarly Zaid makes use of a combination of many things. Supposedly inside information through his old sources, not eve 1% of these are correct but when they are, people like KingKhnWC are amazed. Its like Afridi, his one good fluke innings makes you forget all other failures. Apart from that he only makes outlandish claims like Pakistnis on the moon and ruling the sub-continent to stir passions or state obvious issues which even a 10 year old in Pakistan will know. Thats his trick and people fall for it all the time


The one solution he always proposes is to immediately dissolve the current civilian government and the parliament, replacing them with an interim government formed by the judiciary and the army. I wrote an article on this solution that he has always proposed. Wrote an analytical critique of it without resorting to calling him names.


http://new-pakistan.com/2011/10/10/why-you-should-think-twice-before-embracing-zaid-hamid/

[KingKhanWC]

so you are vehemently against Pakistan becoming a secular liberal nation, support Qadri type people to exist and flourish yet you reside in UK and enjoy the same benefits of a liberal secular nation every day.... :14::14:

lol, so by your fox news yank logic, anyone who doesn't support a secular state in a majority Muslim nation would agree with Qadri?

I don't enjoy any benefits because of secularism, what an idiotic thought. :yk

[Green Leopard]

lol, so by your fox news yank logic, anyone who doesn't support a secular state in a majority Muslim nation would agree with Qadri?

I don't enjoy any benefits because of secularism, what an idiotic thought. :yk

Really, living in England?

Unless you have access to internet in a well hidden bunker deep in Brecon Beacons.

[KingKhanWC]

Really, living in England?

Unless you have access to internet in a well hidden bunker deep in Brecon Beacons.

I live in England but what specific benefits of secularism? Come on give some examples, please.

[Green Leopard]

I live in England but what specific benefits of secularism? Come on give some examples, please.

Your local Mosque.

[KingKhanWC]

Your local Mosque.

You're pulling my leg right? :zoni

I don't think you understand what secularism is. Here is the definition.

The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.

Try again.

[Green Leopard]

You're pulling my leg right? :zoni

I don't think you understand what secularism is. Here is the definition.

The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.

Try again.

Let's keep things simple then. If UK was not a secular country but where Church of England was absolute would you still be here?

"Here is a definition":
Secularism means where the state/government is neutral, leaving each individual free to hold their own beliefs.

[KingKhanWC]

Let's keep things simple then. If UK was not a secular country but where Church of England was absolute would you still be here?

"Here is a definition":
Secularism means where the state/government is neutral, leaving each individual free to hold their own beliefs.

Most likely yes. Plenty of time Muslims have lived in a Christian nation, in fact the first Muslims who left Mecca due to persecution went to live in a Christian nation. It may even be better living in a Christian nation, at least they uphold morals.

[Saudi]

your local mosque.

:)) :))

[Indiafan]

it's only a matter time until India invades Pakistan, you won't be complaining about ZH anymore that's for sure

Indians & delusional Pakistanis love laughing at ZH's sentiments, but he is exposing the truth. Better act now before it's too late.

Ab India ko Pakistan invade kar ke kya milega? India ka khud ke sardard kam hai kya, jo aur musibat mol le? India can only progress if there is peace in the neighbour hood, no one wants war

[Indiafan]

I live in England but what specific benefits of secularism? Come on give some examples, please.

Actually, you will never realise unless those benifits are taken away from you and you live in a society based completely on religious dogma. Then you will relaise how sweet secularism really was. You just have to be a minority is a non-secular country

[Indiafan]

Please see his programs from the beginning. You will find the solutions.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrassTacksOfficial/videos

Can you outline some solutions? All I can see on the website is more rheotoric. Smooth criminal says one of his solutions is to put an interim judicary led goverment in place. Is there any precedent in the mordern era that such a solution will work? As the world is getting more educated and connected, each and everyone of the common man wants to have a part in its country's future. This forum here is the prime example. Years ago, people were content with being passive spectators, not any more. Now even a teenager has opinions about what his country should be doing

So democracy is the best and only way. And yes, it initially brings corruption and power crazed politicians. But give democracy an uninterrupted run for 30-40 years and it will flourish, I can bet. thats how most countries made it work. You just have to give it chance. In Pakistan democarcy never had that chance till date, every 10 years the military interrupts and puts Pakistan back to zero

I am ready to debate Zaid's other points if you put them here

[KingKhanWC]

Actually, you will never realise unless those benifits are taken away from you and you live in a society based completely on religious dogma. Then you will relaise how sweet secularism really was

I disagree. I haven't lived in a proper Islamic state such as Islamic Spain either so maybe I don't know how sweet it would be to live in such a society compared to what I'm living in now. I think my understanding of a true Islamic society based on real Sharia would be a bit different to yours. Besides everyone has their own views on how to live, yours would be different to mine and mine different to the next guy. In fact the UK may classify itself as secular but much of the society is based on Christianity and many parts are in tune with Islamic principles. It's not a case of secular is good and theological is bad, this is a simple and highly flawed understanding.

[youboy]

Can you outline some solutions? All I can see on the website is more rheotoric. Smooth criminal says one of his solutions is to put an interim judicary led goverment in place. Is there any precedent in the mordern era that such a solution will work? As the world is getting more educated and connected, each and everyone of the common man wants to have a part in its country's future. This forum here is the prime example. Years ago, people were content with being passive spectators, not any more. Now even a teenager has opinions about what his country should be doing

So democracy is the best and only way. And yes, it initially brings corruption and power crazed politicians. But give democracy an uninterrupted run for 30-40 years and it will flourish, I can bet. thats how most countries made it work. You just have to give it chance. In Pakistan democarcy never had that chance till date, every 10 years the military interrupts and puts Pakistan back to zero

I am ready to debate Zaid's other points if you put them here

There is a big list of solutions. If you watch his programs from the beginning The Economic Terrorism and so on you can get his solutions which are according to Quran & Sunnah.

As what Smoothcriminal says in his article that is only a temporary solution which Zaid Hamid provides which the Supreme Court with the help of army should take in this situation of emergency to save Pakistan from the corrupt and traitor government and going more and more down.

The solutions which he provides are for Pakistan and Muslims according to Quran & Sunnah. As per Quran you have to be patient to gain more knowledge as we have the example of meeting of Hazrat Moosa (A.S.) and the most learned person in the world. And also as per Hadith a momin sees from the noor of Allah.

As a Muslim I believe that first I have to be patient to gain more knowledge and secondly Allah should provide that noor in my heart to understand it.

I am really sorry won't be able to put up and debate you on other points as of now trying to educate myself and trying to put my small efforts in my capacity towards the Takmeel e Pakistan mission.

I will keep posting whatever new comes across. You can discuss on that.

[youboy]

Ab India ko Pakistan invade kar ke kya milega? India ka khud ke sardard kam hai kya, jo aur musibat mol le? India can only progress if there is peace in the neighbour hood, no one wants war

The problem is not people of India.

The idea of taking over Pakistan, Bangladesh and other countries of the region is of Hindu Zionism who are working towards Akhand Bharat.

[humzy]

The problem is not people of India.

The idea of taking over Pakistan, Bangladesh and other countries of the region is of Hindu Zionism who are working towards Akhand Bharat.

lol and what about the muslim zionist idea of ghazwe hind?

[youboy]

lol and what about the muslim zionist idea of ghazwe hind?

I had to lol on your ignorance, there is no such thing as Muslim zionist working towards capturing India in this current world.

The hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind is that there will be a big war in this region and the result of that war will be that Muslims will capture Hind. Some scholars say that this hadith is already fullfilled when earlier Muslims captured this region and some scholars have opinion that this hadith is of end times that there will be big war. Also in that hadith it is not mentioned that Muslims will invade Hind in Ghazwa e Hind. Only Allah knows.

As for Zaid Hamid and others Muslim scholars never have said that Pakistan will invade India and capture it.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

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[humzy]

I had to lol on your ignorance, there is no such thing as Muslim zionist working towards capturing India in this current world.

The hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind is that there will be a big war in this region and the result of that war will be that Muslims will capture Hind. Some scholars say that this hadith is already fullfilled when earlier Muslims captured this region and some scholars have opinion that this hadith is of end times that there will be big war. Also in that hadith it is not mentioned that Muslims will invade Hind in Ghazwa e Hind. Only Allah knows.

As for Zaid Hamid and others Muslim scholars never have said that Pakistan will invade India and capture it.

i know there is no muslim zionists it was a figure of speech :)

oh really ZH has never said that huh?

quick youtube search and look what i found lol

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[Namak_Halaal]

I do not find the views of ZH worrying, but more so the views of the sheeple who believe and accept every word from the media and politicians as Gospel. These sheeple are the real danger in society. They do not think for themselves thus are easily brainwashed – then we wonder how fascist regimes come into power via democracy.

[youboy]

i know there is no muslim zionists it was a figure of speech :)

oh really ZH has never said that huh?

quick youtube search and look what i found lol

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So you will lol at everything you find on you tube about Zaid Hamid. First of all it is a answer to a question which a person asked to explain Ghazwa e Hind. So he is explaining his opinion about the Ghazwa e Hind.

Go and listen to the video again did he said Muslims army will capture India or did he said Pakistan will invade India and capture it.
As clearly mentioned in my earlier comments

"As for Zaid Hamid and others Muslim scholars never have said that Pakistan will invade India and capture it".

[humzy]

he clearly stated that the current conflicts between india and pakistan are preparation for ghaz we hind are you not smart enough to follow what he is saying?

[humzy]

I do not find the views of ZH worrying, but more so the views of the sheeple who believe and accept every word from the media and politicians as Gospel. These sheeple are the real danger in society. They do not think for themselves thus are easily brainwashed – then we wonder how fascist regimes come into power via democracy.

the sheep who believe the word of anyone is worrying, in this day and age with so much knowledge at the palm of your hands theres no excuse for most people to be fools

[Namak_Halaal]

the sheep who believe the word of anyone is worrying, in this day and age with so much knowledge at the palm of your hands theres no excuse for most people to be fools

Alternate knowledge to the media and politicians is dubbed a 'Conspiracy theory' by the sheeple.

If you do not entertain conspiracy theories, then who and what do you believe? The media? The politicians? If the answer is neither, then it simple means you do not trust the information the media reports, which in turn means you are no different to people who consider conspiracy theories as an alternative, because that’s what conspiracy theories are, an alternative to the spiel perpetrated by the media and politicians.

This simply translates to the fact if you are knocking the views of ZH's, then you must subscribe to the views of mainstream media/politicans.

[youboy]

he clearly stated that the current conflicts between india and pakistan are preparation for ghaz we hind are you not smart enough to follow what he is saying?

Are you not smart enough to understand difference between conflicts and invasion.

Yes he does say that Pakistan will not attack India and that India will start the war and by Allah's Help we will finish the war and he relates this to hadith of Ghazwa e Hind that Muslim army will capture Hind. Until the Hindu Zionist wants to be away from Pakistan, we Pakistanis want to live in peace.

[moumotta]

Alternate knowledge to the media and politicians is dubbed a 'Conspiracy theory' by the sheeple.

If you do not entertain conspiracy theories, then who and what do you believe? The media? The politicians? If the answer is neither, then it simple means you do not trust the information the media reports, which in turn means you are no different to people who consider conspiracy theories as an alternative, because that’s what conspiracy theories are, an alternative to the spiel perpetrated by the media and politicians.

This simply translates to the fact if you are knocking the views of ZH's, then you must subscribe to the views of mainstream media/politicans.

As a conspiracy theorist I believe in the alternate reality of lal topi as long as he is not right. If he proves right then he will become mainstream and I will have to disown him. But till he is proven right I will continue to hold that he is right.:ibutt

[humzy]

Alternate knowledge to the media and politicians is dubbed a 'Conspiracy theory' by the sheeple.

If you do not entertain conspiracy theories, then who and what do you believe? The media? The politicians? If the answer is neither, then it simple means you do not trust the information the media reports, which in turn means you are no different to people who consider conspiracy theories as an alternative, because that’s what conspiracy theories are, an alternative to the spiel perpetrated by the media and politicians.

This simply translates to the fact if you are knocking the views of ZH's, then you must subscribe to the views of mainstream media/politicans.

i believe there is truth to many conspiracy theories out there.. and i agree with some of what ZH says, but the other half of what he says is a load of hogwash.. It's disinformation agent 101.. Government puts a puppet in place to lead the alternative people, by saying things that are true and mixing them in with crazy talk, which undermines the original truth and desensitizes people to it.

[humzy]

Are you not smart enough to understand difference between conflicts and invasion.

Yes he does say that Pakistan will not attack India and that India will start the war and by Allah's Help we will finish the war and he relates this to hadith of Ghazwa e Hind that Muslim army will capture Hind. Until the Hindu Zionist wants to be away from Pakistan, we Pakistanis want to live in peace.

wow.. you are a lost child, read your last few posts it is full of contradictions and worrying thoughts.

[QazzarFan]

The problem is not people of India.

The idea of taking over Pakistan, Bangladesh and other countries of the region is of Hindu Zionism who are working towards Akhand Bharat.

The problem is people like you are brainwashed in to believing whatever fits your agenda. It's unbelievable reading all the crap you come up with on a daily basis. This is the prime example of headinthesanditis disease

[KingKhanWC]

The problem is people like you are brainwashed in to believing whatever fits your agenda. It's unbelievable reading all the crap you come up with on a daily basis. This is the prime example of headinthesanditis disease

The Irony coming from you. :))) :)))

[youboy]

The problem is people like you are brainwashed in to believing whatever fits your agenda. It's unbelievable reading all the crap you come up with on a daily basis. This is the prime example of headinthesanditis disease

Masha Allah you are reading it on daily basis, my work is being noticed. :)

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

This is our powerful azaan alhamdolillah on Takbeer TV UK on the accountability of Media, future of Zardari regime, role of Chief Justice and the future course of battle to recover Pak Sarzameen from these present crisis.

The time has come that a most severe accountability of media is done by the Judiciary and the nation. The present regime is a curse. This cancer must be removed - If SC will not do it, then chaos and anarchy would draw in the army. This corrupt regime cannot establish the caretaker government. army and SC must get directly involved!

Role of media and present security scenario

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[Cricketismylife]

How old r u youboy? I don't mean to insult just curious.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Dear Children and members, read this carefully and do NOT panic.

There is no government in Pakistan today. Supreme Court has removed the prime minister and the cabinet but the SC have not removed the PPP regime. That means that PPP is going to make another government with a new prime minister and the looting, plundering and robbery of national wealth would continue. That also means that the anarchy, chaos, lawlessness, crisis of power, gas and fuel would also continue for the next few more weeks. In fact it is going to get worse.

We expect violent protests, riots and lawlessness in the country in the next 2 months. In the absence of a stable government, the insurgents, terrorists and criminals will take full advantage of the chaos and anarchy already present in the country.

Prepare yourself for these difficult times. Stock some food and essential supplies and if you have licensed weapons, keep them at home for self protection. With the levels of anarchy that we have seen in the last few days in urban Punjab, you may have to protect your own homes, honor and lives. In Karachi, Police have already given orders to the citizens to shoot the looters on sight. It has come to this now and it is going to get worse in the coming days. Don't panic, prepare.

We expect that till the end of August, this anarchy would continue, when finally, InshAllah, Supreme Court and army would then be forced to step in decisively to bring in a caretaker government which would start to stabilize the country.

InshAllah, there will be no elections. Also, InshAllah, the PPP regime and the PML(N) will not form the caretakers as they plan to do. This duty will also be done by the SC and army, InshAllah.

Ideally, we would like the SC to remove this regime today and save the country from the imminent collapse and chaos but it seems that the SC would take its time to decide the remaining cases against the regime and in the meantime, the anarchy would rule the streets.

InshAllah, great khair is coming. Like the monsoon clouds which foretell you of the arriving rains, the winds of change in politics are now blowing, alhamdolillah and great khair is coming very soon. But before that expect lots of violence, bloodshed and anarchy.

Do not panic and stay firm and stay indoors. InshAllah, this crisis will pass too and will give way to period of great khair very soon. Stay blessed and remember Pak sarzameen in your duas always.

ZH

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Pl note our Think Tank BrassTacks official website has now been operational fully. Alhamdolillah, We have upgraded our battle station with more knowledge, information and data for you to know, join and spread the mission. In case, our FB is down, you can visit our website for info and updates. The other personal website ZaidHamid.pk is also operational. Spread the word.

http://www.brasstacks.pk/

[wasim-fan]

Keep telling yourself that

Bombs will be landing soon

We must equip ourselves and be ready to defend

Let Zaid Hamid lead us to victory

:dav

Well now I know how ZH's"dukaan" is still in place. Man, the sheer jihalat ( ignorance ) out there is scary to say the least. I don't blame the clown though.

With Indian economy taking a hammering, the most unstable govt. in recent history, growing unemployment and angst against corruption, I really don't think bombing Pakistan would be on the agenda. This country can barely manage 20 odd states.

[kamz]

where everyone is beating about ghazwa e hind hadith.

Just a thought that at the time of our beloved Prophet S.A.W. Hind wasnt just India. It was Pakistan and Bangladesh too.

So the hadith (the meaning to its nearest effect) which is quoted from Hazrat Souban R.A that momineens will have a ghazwa with hind and drag hind's king all the way to islamic lands.

Doesnt mean India, can be pakistan too, can be any country within the indian subcontinent, as Hind during our prophet's times was just india, it was the whole indian subcontinent.

[youboy]

where everyone is beating about ghazwa e hind hadith.

Just a thought that at the time of our beloved Prophet S.A.W. Hind wasnt just India. It was Pakistan and Bangladesh too.

So the hadith (the meaning to its nearest effect) which is quoted from Hazrat Souban R.A that momineens will have a ghazwa with hind and drag hind's king all the way to islamic lands.

Doesnt mean India, can be pakistan too, can be any country within the indian subcontinent, as Hind during our prophet's times was just india, it was the whole indian subcontinent.

This side Pakistan was not Hind. Muhammad Bin Qasim didnot capture Hind he captured Sindh. This area had a separate name.

[kamz]

This side Pakistan was not Hind. Muhammad Bin Qasim didnot capture Hind he captured Sindh. This area had a separate name.

But Muhammad Bin Qasim and our Prophet S.A.W's time were different. Additionally I have been told that in the old history arab books it is quoted as hind not sindh.

[Indiafan]

This side Pakistan was not Hind. Muhammad Bin Qasim didnot capture Hind he captured Sindh. This area had a separate name.

Hind and Sindh are the same area, the difference in names was only because of difference in loacal dialects

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

What most of the Pakistanis do not know is that Pakistan-Iran-Turkey are already working on a massive project to build a land bridge within the Ummah via Train and Road, alhamdolillah. First test trains from Islamabad have already arrived in Istanbul after 6500 km long journey via Iran. The Ummah is being united under a common collective economic and security strategy.

The enemies are in Afghanistan and are supporting the violence in Baluchistan and FATA to prevent such a union of Muslim nations. The biggest nightmare for the enemies is a united Ummah.

That is why Pakistan's rail system has been destroyed by the traitor ANP. That is why BLA is active and blowing up rail lines in Baluchistan. That is why Shia Muslims are being killed in Quetta to ignite a war between Pakistan and Iran. That is why US is in Afghanistan to prevent such a linkage. That is why TTP is created to destroy Pakistan from within. That is why SAFMA was created to act as Information warfare weapon for the Zionists. That is why Zardari is still supported by the enemies to bring about a collapse of the Mediana e Sani. That is why US is so keen to break off Baluchistan from Pakistan. That is why media is creating a bype about missing persons in Baluchistan.

Now do you see the bigger picture?????? DO NOT be fools and idiots in the hands of enemies. Know your enemy and friends and do not be on the wrong side of history. A great destiny awaits Pakistan. These difficult times you see would seen end, InshAllah. Ummah is going to be one. Muslims are rising once again and we control the destiny of the world, alhamdolillah, with Pakistan as their leader!!! This is written in Loh e Mehfooz, alhamdolillah, as Baba Iqbal has predicted, MashAllah!

[LethalSami]

^^cool story

but im really digging that Pak-Iran-Turkey railway c o-op (maybe a gas pipeline to in the future)

PIT railway co-op means easier to slip into Europe for the desi youngun' :asif

[youboy]

Hind and Sindh are the same area, the difference in names was only because of difference in loacal dialects

The people of Sindh had there own culture and own language dated back to Indus Valley civilization so how can we say that Hind and Sind are same.

Culture of Sindh

The culture of Sindh ( سنڌي سڀيتا ) has its roots in the Indus Valley Civilization. Sindh has been shaped by the geography of the largely desert region, the natural resources it had available and the continuous foreign influences. The Indus or Sindhu River that passes through the land, and the Arabian Sea (that defines its borders) also supported the sea-faring traditions among the local people.[1] The local climate also reflects why the Sindhis have the language, folklore, traditions, customs and lifestyle that are so different from the neighbouring regions.[2] Sindhi culture is also practiced by the Sindhi diaspora.

The roots of Sindhi culture and civilization go back to the distant past. Archaeological researches during 19th and 20th centuries showed the roots of social life, religion and culture of the people of the Sindh: their agricultural practices, traditional arts and crafts, customs and tradition and other parts of social life, going back to a ripe and mature Indus valley civilization of the third millennium B.C. Recent researches have traced the Indus valley civilization to even earlier ancestry.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Sindh



Also check

In history, Sind has had more to do on its own or with countries on its west than with India (Hind). Hind and Sind were separate territories. Sind had greater contact with Arabia, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan than with India.

http://www.sindhiinfo.com/scenario/historyofsind.asp

[youboy]

But Muhammad Bin Qasim and our Prophet S.A.W's time were different. Additionally I have been told that in the old history arab books it is quoted as hind not sindh.

There is also a hadith being quoted

"Sindh ki kharabi Hind say aur Hind ki kharabi Cheen sey" (Kitab ul Fitan)

which also shows that in that time also Sind and hind were considered separate.

Also

HADEES OF HAZRAT ABU HURAIRAH (R.A.)

The very first Hadees is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.). He says that my intimate friend Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) told me that:

“ In this Ummah, the troops would be headed towards Sindh & Hind”

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that if I could find a chance to participate in any of such movement & (while participating in it) I be got martyred, then well & good; if came back as a survived warrior, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah, to whom Allah Almighty would have given freedom from the Hell.”

References:

1. With these words, only Imam bin Hambal (R) narrated this Hadees in ‘Masnad’.
2. And Ibn-e-Kaseer copied with his reference in ‘Al-Badaya Wa Nahaya’
3. Qazi Ahmad Shakir gave this Hadees the beautiful stability in the explanation & search of ‘Masnad Ahmad’.
4. Imam Nisai did narrate this Hadees in both his books: ‘As Sunan Al Mujtaba’ & ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’ with the following wordings, that Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says, Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) did promise us of Ghazwa-e-Hind. If I got chance to participate in it, then I would spend all my energy & wealth in it. If I got slained, then I would be considered among the most great martyrs. And if came back, then would be a freed Abu-Hurairah.
5. Imam Behqi (R) has also copied the same wordings in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’. In his another narration, there is one addition. With the reference of Ibn-e-Daood, Masdad told about Abu-Ishaq Fazari that he used to say: ‘I wish that I could participate in the Ghazwat of Marbad(some place in East towards India from Arab), instead of all those Ghazwaat which I did in city Rome’.
6. Imam Behqi (R) has talked about the same narration in ‘Dalail un Nubuwwah’. And with his reference, this narration has been copied by Imam Syuti (R) in ‘Al Khasaais Al Kubra’.
Furthermore, the following Hadees quoters have narrated the same Hadees with a few word difference.
7. Sheikh Ahmad Shakir (R) approved the very Hadees.
8. Ibn e Kaseer copied in ‘Al Badaya Wa Nahaya’ from the testimonial of Imam Ahmad.
9. Abu Naeem (R) narrated it in ‘Huliyaat ul Auliya’.
10. Imam Hakim (R) remained silent after narrating this Hadees in ‘Al Mustadrak Al Saheeheen’. While, Imam Zahbi (R) omitted it from his Mustadrak.
11. Saeed bin Mansoor narrated it in his book ‘As Sunan’.
12. Khateeb Baghdadi wrote in the history of Baghdad that ‘I would make myself restless in it’.
13. Naeem bin Hammad; the teacher of Imam Bukhari (R) wrote in ‘Al Fitan’.
14. Ibn e Abi Asim (R) did in his book ‘Al-Jihad’.
15. Ibn e Abi Hatim (R) narrated in his book ‘Al Laal’ that ‘if I would be murdered, then would be alive by getting food (as shaheed) & if returned, then would be freed’.
16. Imam Bukhari (R) did narrate in ‘Al Tareekh Al Kabeer’
17. Imam Mazi did in ‘Tehzeeb ul Kamal’.
18. Ibn e Hajar Askalani did relate this Hadees in ‘Tehzeeb Al Tehzeeb’.

According to all the people written above, this Hadees is all correct and is beautiful.

http://ghazwatulhind.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/hadith-of-ghazwatuhind-with-references/

[youboy]

Greatest Turkish Scholar of 20th Century, Bediuzzaman Said Nursi, Year 1911..

Bediuzzaman had climbed a prominent hill known as Shykh Mount, which has commanding view of the city of Tiflis and the valley of the River Kura in which it is situated together with all the surrounding countryside. He was gazing at the view plunged in thought when approached by a Russian policeman. The following exchange ensued, which began with the policeman asking:

"Why are you studying the land with such attention?" Bediuzzaman replied: "I am planning my madrasah." Where are you from?" "I am from Bitlis." "But this is Tiflis!" "Bitlis is one of Tiflis' brothers."

Bediuzzaman explained: "Three lights are beginning to be revealed one after the other in Asia and the world of Islam. While with you three layers of darkness will start to recede one over the other. This veil of despotism shall be rent; it will shrink back, and I shall come and build my madrasah here."

This only increased the policeman's bewilderment "I'm sorry for you", he said. "I'm astonished that you should entertain such a hope."

"And I am astonished at your not understanding!", replied Bediuzzaman. "Do you think it possible that this winter will continue? Every winter is followed by spring, and every night by day."

"But the Islamic world is all broken up and fragmented."

"They have gone to study. It is like this: India is an able son of Islam; it is studying in the high school of the British, Egypt is a clever son of Islam; it is taking lessons in the British school of civil servants. Caucasia and Turkestan are two valiant sons of Islam; theyr are training in the Russian war academy. And so on.

"You see, after these noble sons of Islam have received their diplomas, each will lead a continent, and , waving the banner of Islam, their just and mighty father, on the horizons of perfection, they will proclaim the mystery of pre-eternal wisdom inherent in mankind in the view of pre-eternal divine determinign and in the face of obstinate fater."

(Risale -i Nur Collection, Sunihat, 63-4)

[Saudi]

:)) :)) :)) :))

Most of this stuff reads like a parody. I'm sure Ghazwa Hind will bring about a lot of bloodshed in the future but at the moment its only bringing about laughs.

Lunatics...

[Centurion]

This side Pakistan was not Hind. Muhammad Bin Qasim didnot capture Hind he captured Sindh. This area had a separate name.

Wasn't the region conquered by Bin Qasim in the subcontinent known as Al-Hind?
Also, the people of Sindh were Hindus and Buddhists before their gradual conversion to Islam. The name Sindh itself derives its name from the river Sindhu, which has Indian etymological origin.

[youboy]

As a Pakistani our first focus should be about Takmeel - e - Pakistan not Ghazwa e Hind.

Pakistan was asked by Muslims of this region in the name of Islam. Till now almost 65 years have past and we have not fulfilled the promised made with Allah Subhan Wa Ta'aala.
Our first priority is to fulfill that promise and to establish Pakistan as an Islamic State according to Quran and Sunnah.

[kamz]

As a Pakistani our first focus should be about Takmeel - e - Pakistan not Ghazwa e Hind.

Pakistan was asked by Muslims of this region in the name of Islam. Till now almost 65 years have past and we have not fulfilled the promised made with Allah Subhan Wa Ta'aala.
Our first priority is to fulfill that promise and to establish Pakistan as an Islamic State according to Quran and Sunnah.

Before the promise of Pakistan, our promise is to strengthen our imaan, and follow the deen as our Prophet S.A.W laid it out to us, give dawah of the deen (not the khilafat) That is first priority

Fulfill that promise first and InshAllah, Allah will help all of us to fulfil the pakistan promise too.

Khilafah came after the wisaal of our beloved prophet S.A.W. Before that our prophet S.A.W worked hard to strengthen on the imaan of sahabahs then shariah was implemented not the other way round

Our imaan is as weak as munafiqs and we are focusing on implementing shariah. Trust me with the level of our imaans if we would be living in the time of proper khilafah of Khulafah Rashideen and specially Hazrat Umar when proper shariah was implemented, we would have been labelled as munafiqs and rebels.

imaan zarra barabar nahi hamare mein aur shariyat e muhammad aur khilafat e umar naafis karne chaley hum

[youboy]

Before the promise of Pakistan, our promise is to strengthen our imaan, and follow the deen as our Prophet S.A.W laid it out to us, give dawah of the deen (not the khilafat) That is first priority

Fulfill that promise first and InshAllah, Allah will help all of us to fulfil the pakistan promise too.

Khilafah came after the wisaal of our beloved prophet S.A.W. Before that our prophet S.A.W worked hard to strengthen on the imaan of sahabahs then shariah was implemented not the other way round

Our imaan is as weak as munafiqs and we are focusing on implementing shariah. Trust me with the level of our imaans if we would be living in the time of proper khilafah of Khulafah Rashideen and specially Hazrat Umar when proper shariah was implemented, we would have been labelled as munafiqs and rebels.

imaan zarra barabar nahi hamare mein aur shariyat e muhammad aur khilafat e umar naafis karne chaley hum

Yahin to humlog maar kha gaye hain aur yehi secularism hay key hum ne Iman aur khilafah yaani Islam aur government ko alag kardiya hay.

First Islamic government was established by our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. when the Muslims got hold of the land of Medina and then Makkah. We cannot say that we will follow some part of sunnah and leave some part as per our own wish. So establishing that government is a sunnah and should be part of our Imaan when we got separate land for Muslims (Pakistan). To strengthen our imaan is to believe that working towards the establishment of that government is not separate from our daily ibadaats. That is our complete Imaan on Allah.

shariyat e muhammad aur khilafat e umar naafis karna hamaare iman ka hissa hay hamaare imaan se alag nahi.

[youboy]

As a Pakistani our first focus should be about Takmeel - e - Pakistan not Ghazwa e Hind.

Pakistan was asked by Muslims of this region in the name of Islam. Till now almost 65 years have past and we have not fulfilled the promised made with Allah Subhan Wa Ta'aala.
Our first priority is to fulfill that promise and to establish Pakistan as an Islamic State according to Quran and Sunnah.

We have to work towards establishing Khilafah as per Quran and Sunnah in this land which was given to us by Allah and make it Dar ul Islam.

If we will not do the job of Allah. Allah is not dependent on us he will change the nation.

Iqbal beautifully describes this situation: "O' you Muslims, you will not perish if Iran or the Arabs perish, that the spirit of the wine is not dependent on the nature of it's container."

The container is our nations, our boundaries and the spirit of Islam is not dependent on our geographical boundaries or national limitations. So this is what Allah (swt) does again and again, he chose the Jews then he chose the Arabs then when they became lax he chose the Turks and when they became lax another people and so on and this is a continuous process. If you don't do the job, Allah(swt) will chose another people who will.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

By Allah, this will give you goosebumps!!

If you dare to dream, this is the mission destined for you! Only the finest, most daring, most courageous, most dignified, most pious and most merciful would be chosen to lead and enforce this divine destiny! This azaan was given nearly 2.5 years ago and is the most romantic mission statement of the romantic journey of Takmeel e Pakistan!

Your destiny is in your hands. Glory is waiting for you. March with courage and unity and grab it! Only those are the truly free men who dare to dream the impossible and then live a life of dignity to achieve their dreams!

The Future of Pakistan - InshaAllah!

Oh89cAeqQic

[youboy]

Hal Kiya Hai Complete – Orya Maqbool Jan

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[youboy]

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[youboy]

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[youboy]

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[guvi]

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[kamz]

Yahin to humlog maar kha gaye hain aur yehi secularism hay key hum ne Iman aur khilafah yaani Islam aur government ko alag kardiya hay.

First Islamic government was established by our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. when the Muslims got hold of the land of Medina and then Makkah. We cannot say that we will follow some part of sunnah and leave some part as per our own wish. So establishing that government is a sunnah and should be part of our Imaan when we got separate land for Muslims (Pakistan). To strengthen our imaan is to believe that working towards the establishment of that government is not separate from our daily ibadaats. That is our complete Imaan on Allah.

shariyat e muhammad aur khilafat e umar naafis karna hamaare iman ka hissa hay hamaare imaan se alag nahi.

meri jaan tum baat nahi samaj rahe :)

madina haasil karne se pehle kis baat ki mehnat thi hamare Rasool kareem S.A.W ki

khilafat naafis karne ki???? ya kalmay ki????? kalmay ki mehnat kyun thi

jab imaan patthar chattan jitna mazboot hua tab jaake madina mila aur wapas makkah bhi aur dunia ki kayi aur sultanatein bhi!!!! aur tab jaake shariyat ko aise apnaya jaise uske begair zindagi nahi!!!!

maar humne yahan nahi khaayi ke khilafat nahi humpe

maar humne wahan khaayi jahan hamara imaan kamzor hua. Kuch gaur kar mere bhai is baat pe

imaan to sahaba waale banale hum, shariyat khud ba khud naafis hojaayegi

aur sab se pehli sunnat to dawat ki hai ussey kyun bhulte ho??? ussey kyun priority nahi dete, sab se pehli sunnat to hamare pyaare Rasool S.A.W ne Allah ki wahdaniyat ki dawat di thi. Ussey to pura karlo.

jinhon ne alag kya deen aur hukumat ko so kardiya, larke agar hukumat mil bhi gayi, to kaafir se pehle musalmaan jo aaj ke hain aap aur hum, hum hi baaghi hojaayengay aur larengay ke hatao yeh shariyat humse nahi jee jaati aisi zindagi.

[youboy]

meri jaan tum baat nahi samaj rahe :)

madina haasil karne se pehle kis baat ki mehnat thi hamare Rasool kareem S.A.W ki

khilafat naafis karne ki???? ya kalmay ki????? kalmay ki mehnat kyun thi

jab imaan patthar chattan jitna mazboot hua tab jaake madina mila aur wapas makkah bhi aur dunia ki kayi aur sultanatein bhi!!!! aur tab jaake shariyat ko aise apnaya jaise uske begair zindagi nahi!!!!

maar humne yahan nahi khaayi ke khilafat nahi humpe

maar humne wahan khaayi jahan hamara imaan kamzor hua. Kuch gaur kar mere bhai is baat pe

imaan to sahaba waale banale hum, shariyat khud ba khud naafis hojaayegi

aur sab se pehli sunnat to dawat ki hai ussey kyun bhulte ho??? ussey kyun priority nahi dete, sab se pehli sunnat to hamare pyaare Rasool S.A.W ne Allah ki wahdaniyat ki dawat di thi. Ussey to pura karlo.

jinhon ne alag kya deen aur hukumat ko so kardiya, larke agar hukumat mil bhi gayi, to kaafir se pehle musalmaan jo aaj ke hain aap aur hum, hum hi baaghi hojaayengay aur larengay ke hatao yeh shariyat humse nahi jee jaati aisi zindagi.

madina haasil karne se pehle kis baat ki mehnat thi hamare Rasool kareem S.A.W ki

Yehi to main bhi keh raha hon Hamare buzorgon ke Imaan bahut pukhta teh jabhi to unhe Madina ki tarah Pakistan mila. Allah ki taraf se. Yeh to Allah ki maslihat thi ke hamara bahut sara Ashrafiya un 50 lakh shahidon mein humse ley liya gaya.

Yahan baat to yeh ho rahi hay ke Madina hasil karne ke baad humne kya kiya. Rasool Pak (S.A.W) ki sunnat ko chor dya aur.

App abhi bhi Madina haasil karne se pehle ki baat kar rahe ho Madina to already mil gaya uske baad mein Rasool Pak ki sunnah kya hay us per gaur karo.

Yehi to Iqbal ka kaam hay unhone jab kaha ke is Qoum ke nau jawan mere haath main hain isi liye kaha. Aur yehi Takmeel e Pakistan mission ka pehla maqsad hay jab yeh start hua tha ek qoum tayyar karni hay jo Allah se keyi waaday ko poora kare. aur yehi phichley chand saalon se kaam ho raha aur Alhamdolillah lakhon log is mission mein already kaam kar rahe hain sir in 2 to 3 years main. Yehi to Allah ta'aala ki di hui barkat hai is missionm main.

[Sultanofswing]

this youboy is none other than Sir great great lord almighty Zaid Hamid himself. The only obstacle between muslim world and ghazwa e hind is Sir great Zaid Hamid himself. As long as theres lunatic schrezopheniac , and war monger people like Zaid Hamid exists in Pak Society, theres no hope for the youth to see the right path.
Ameen!!

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

This is the nightmare for Israel ! A new Dawn is rising in Egypt, InshAllah! The Muslim brotherhood now holds the most powerful office of the President. Just watch this. After 70 years of persecution, murders, assassinations and tortures, the Akwan have risen from the ashes! InshAllah, this will bring great khair for the Ummah and Muslims of Palestine!

The triangle of Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan is now formed!!! Neel key sahil sey ley kar Ta ba khak e Kashgar!!!! Iqbal's dua is coming alive! Allahu Akbar!


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As per my views don't believe these Muslim brotherhood guys as they talk about United States of Arab.
This is what the reason Israel wants to wage wars on these areas for greater Israel (the reason will be given that these muslims will be threat to Israel). As explained by Sheikh Imran Hossein in many of his lectures since so many years.

I agree with this comment on the video by a brother
May b zionists have others thats y we as muslims have unable to read proper script...in order to to attack egypt they wud need solid reasons n may b ismic party to b elected is not a coincidence but a planned war....

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Like our Egyptian, Turkish and Iranian brothers, our destination and march would also be towards 3 cities -- Srinagar, Delhi and Jerusalem, InshAllah! We have marked the distances and our guns are ready. The forces of Ghazwa e Hind would link up with forces marching towards Jerusalem, InshAllah!

This is the written destiny which would unfold now in days to come. Be part of this romantic destiny. Let the enemies and munafiqeen make fun and laugh about our destiny. Soon, they will find out and then they will cry more and laugh less InshAllah!

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

This knowledge, advice, wisdom and forces is the essential weapon you need to be the mysterious Soldier of Rasul Allah (sm)! You will NOT find this knowledge in books! This is the most mysterious, mystical dimension of our Baba Iqbal never touched before, alhamdolillah! These 28 minutes would change you forever if you have been selected by the Divine for the sacred duty! Ignite the fire of passion, know the secrets of self!

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[MalikMohsin]

this youboy is none other than Sir great great lord almighty Zaid Hamid himself. The only obstacle between muslim world and ghazwa e hind is Sir great Zaid Hamid himself. As long as theres lunatic schrezopheniac , and war monger people like Zaid Hamid exists in Pak Society, theres no hope for the youth to see the right path.
Ameen!!

You do realize Ghazwa-e-Hind is prophesied by none other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Be careful with the kind of comment you post. Mind controlled programmings are in full effect, i see!

Keep contributing, youtube. May Allaah (SWT) rewards you with the countless blessings, Ameen!

As Salaamu Alaykum!

[youboy]

Hum par aik Qarz Hai!!!


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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Today, we gave a intense azaan to warn our nation of the threats building from the Eastern and Western theatres! Hear this warning loud and clear and take precautions for we have we have very little time now. Those who have the destiny of this millat in their hands, must wake up and realize that a war is upon us now, we are in it already and now its intensity is going to increase even more.

InshAllah Khair. These azaan are not going waste. The nation is rising, armed forces are re-grouping even if the leaders remain treacherous!

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[Sultanofswing]

You do realize Ghazwa-e-Hind is prophesied by none other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Be careful with the kind of comment you post. Mind controlled programmings are in full effect, i see!

Keep contributing, youtube. May Allaah (SWT) rewards you with the countless blessings, Ameen!

As Salaamu Alaykum!


and as long as we have firm believer like you, dont know about ghazwa e hind but chaos e pakistan is sure.


isnt it better to wake up, take matters in our hand instead of dreaming on prophecy? and try make our nation better?

i firmly believe zaid hamid is a cancer call in pak body and people like you helping it to spread.

[youboy]

and as long as we have firm believer like you, dont know about ghazwa e hind but chaos e pakistan is sure.

isnt it better to wake up, take matters in our hand instead of dreaming on prophecy? and try make our nation better?

i firmly believe zaid hamid is a cancer call in pak body and people like you helping it to spread.


isnt it better to wake up, take matters in our hand instead of dreaming on prophecy? and try make our nation better?

Wow so you have same views as Zaid Hamid. This is the same message what he is bringing to us. Then how can you not agree with him.

[Sultanofswing]

bcoz zaid hamid focuses on India, he talk of killing indian after ghazwa e hind, he keep talking of war, he is against democracy, he is pro-taliban.

while i am suggesting on education, economic reform, get united and bring an honest government in power.

theres a day/ night difference in my view with zaid hamid.

[shortbread]

Ghazwa da hind is an amazing phenpmenon. I dont think Pakistan needs the help of other 'Muslim allies', very much capable of pulling it of alone.

This will be ultimate; z hamid and his followers will cross borders and kill all the enemies with their bare fists. following this there will be a grand charge towards Jerusalem where people have already fled out of fear.

Guess what they are not done yet, next they swim across the Indian ocean (by now renamed the zaid hamid ocean) then cross the south atlantic, then swim up to the north atlantic and take over the US of A.

Next mission: the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFdG8lZ4PJw&feature=related

[youboy]

bcoz zaid hamid focuses on India, he talk of killing indian after ghazwa e hind, he keep talking of war, he is against democracy, he is pro-taliban.

while i am suggesting on education, economic reform, get united and bring an honest government in power.

theres a day/ night difference in my view with zaid hamid.

If you have listened to Zaid Hamid and watched his TV programmes only then you can know that

this is his first priority and the mission of Takmeel e Pakistan.


suggesting on education, economic reform, get united and bring an honest government in power.

So there is no difference in your views and his.

Yes he is against the system of democracy which exists in Pakistan as this system will only bring either corrupt government or chaos in Pakistan. He is not pro Taliban. He is pro Islam.

And about Ghazwa e Hind or war with India. He says Pakistan will not start the war we will only retaliate if India attacks. He suggest as per his opinion that this war can be Ghazwa e Hind and their is a hadith about the victory of Muslims in Ghazwa e Hind. So he says this in his speech that Muslims of Pakistan should not be demoralized if India attacks as victory will be ours. It can be suggested as a war tactic to keep your people strong and firm.

[Gabbar Singh]

And about Ghazwa e Hind or war with India. He says Pakistan will not start the war we will only retaliate if India attacks. He suggest as per his opinion that this war can be Ghazwa e Hind and their is a hadith about the victory of Muslims in Ghazwa e Hind. So he says this in his speech that Muslims of Pakistan should not be demoralized if India attacks as victory will be ours. It can be suggested as a war tactic to keep your people strong and firm.

What does Mr Hamid suggest the Muslims of India do in all of this?

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Dear children, members and team, Pakistani nation has suffered a major setback but this is NOT a defeat. We guarantee you, this supply line will be blocked again. US needs this lifeline for 3 years. We will block it again in days inshAllah. Allah will overthrow this regime now. They have crossed all limits of beghairti and Ghaddari.

Do NOT lose hope nor become despondent. Remain firm and dignified and continue the fight and resist the treacherous actions of this ********* paleed cult of snakes who pass as our rulers today. We will NEVER surrender nor hand over Pak Sarzameen to them.

Patriots in every department of the state will put up fierce resistance inshllah. In these times of treason and betrayal at the highest levels, Ummat e Rasul (sm) needs dignified and brave sons. Raise your voice, resist in every way you can but do NOT be violent against state or private property. Momin is always dignified and honorable even in protest and war. Khair inshAllah!

[smoothcriminal]

^ So the army obviously could not have had ANY role in the re-opening of the NATO supply yeah?

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

By the grace of Allah, We, the sons of Ummat e Rasul (sm) and Pak Sarzameen, blocked these supply lines for 8 months against impossible odds. No body in Pakistan expected that these supplies could be blocked for more than a week but we achieved the impossible. We gave them a loss of nearly 3 billion dollars in extra cost for supplies through central Asia and air. We damaged and delayed the Af-Pak invasion upon Pakistan. We proved to the world that Pakistan can stand up to US and NATO, alhamdolillah. If today, we have been hurt, it is because of traitors. We will deal with them now, InshAllah. Just watch.

We had warned the nation that if these supplies go through, the country would be in another more lethal and bloody war. Pakistan will remain intact but the Pakistani nation will be severely punished for this betrayal of the Ummah. It is not just the politicians or the army to be blamed. The entire millat is responsible for this Khiyanat. The Ulama, political parties, religious parties, media, youth and the people -- we as a nation have committed this sin and now will pay collectively. Now Tauba will be accepted with blood alone.

Those who did not play any part in blocking these supplies have no right to complain now. Those who blocked them once will continue the fight and will block them again, InshAllah. Either be a soldier of Pakistan or shut up. Traitors, munafiqeen and Tamashbeen are all alike. Allah does not need them now. Even from this betrayal, great khair is emerging, InshAllah. Be part of it or stay silent. Allah will do what He plans through His chosen ones.

[shortbread]

^ So the army obviously could not have had ANY role in the re-opening of the NATO supply yeah?

Nope, the army expressed their displeasure verbally, accepted america's money, shook hands and walked away.

So let me reiterate, the army did express their displeasure!!

[Indiafan]

You do realize Ghazwa-e-Hind is prophesied by none other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Be careful with the kind of comment you post. Mind controlled programmings are in full effect, i see!

Keep contributing, youtube. May Allaah (SWT) rewards you with the countless blessings, Ameen!

As Salaamu Alaykum!

I am sure He (PBUH) also prophesised that many false prohpets and messengers will use the name of events like Ghazwae-Hind to fool muslims and try to make them leave the true path of Islam

[youboy]

I am sure He (PBUH) also prophesised that many false prohpets and messengers will use the name of events like Ghazwae-Hind to fool muslims and try to make them leave the true path of Islam

You actually know what is the difference between false prophet and messenger using their words and what is the true path of Islam?

[msd89]

You cannot claim that this is a religion of peace and at the same time post things like these.This is hypocrisy.If in future there is a war I am damn sure who will be on the losing side

[youboy]

You cannot claim that this is a religion of peace and at the same time post things like these.This is hypocrisy.If in future there is a war I am damn sure who will be on the losing side

As a Pakistani I should know that we are already in a state of war which is being imposed on us. We have two options either to hide our faces in the holes like ostrich or to stand firm work against the enemy's tactics & at the same time pray to Allah for betterment.

[youboy]

Trust this Faqeer - Syed Zaid Hamid

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[Gabbar Singh]

I am sure He (PBUH) also prophesised that many false prohpets and messengers will use the name of events like Ghazwae-Hind to fool muslims and try to make them leave the true path of Islam



Seems like the mind controlled programmings are in full effect with you too :)

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Destroying the myths, lies and deceptions of the corrupt regime and their crusader masters and exposing the genuine and clear and present dangers to Pak Sarzameen, this is our Azaan on Express TV tonight, alhamdolillah! The destiny will now unfold as Allah wills. We will only be His instruments!

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[youboy]

Massive cleanup of the traitors is near! Syed Zaid Hamid

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[youboy]

Zaid Hamid answers questions of youth on K2 TV (January 2010)

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Dear members, most of our duty was addressed to our own nation, hence was in Urdu. But we have also addressed the international audience over the years - representing our values, ethos, ideology, vision, mission and duty. Here is our website with all our English programs for the larger global audience. Spread this on all your sites, blogs and mailing groups and help us reach out to the free world resisting against the global Zionists. This is your duty and your laptops are your battle stations.

Do not underestimate the power of a sincere azaan! Khair inshAllah!

BRASSTACKS ENGLISH

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrasstacksEnglish

[Aampakistani]

one thing I will give Imran Khan credit for is thankfully taking our youth away from the grips of lal topi wala maskhara

[Amar786]

one thing I will give Imran Khan credit for is thankfully taking our youth away from the grips of lal topi wala maskhara

Imran khan has connection to zaid hamid and hamid gul

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=imran+khan+with+ziad+hamid+and+hamid+gul&num=10&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=758&tbm=isch&tbnid=1okx5JqbMZtNbM:&imgrefurl=http://pakteahouse.net/2012/03/20/profile-zaid-hamid/large-imran-khan-shahzaman-zaid-hamid-and-lt-gen-hamid-gul-not-visible-not-verified-in-an-undated-picture/&docid=TdZTqWRIaLQTgM&imgurl=http://pakteahouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/large-Imran-Khan-Shahzaman-Zaid-Hamid-and-Lt-Gen-Hamid-Gul-not-visible-not-verified-in-an-undated-picture.jpg&w=640&h=480&ei=dxL6T5bEIMmw0QXvq6yxBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=508&sig=117034680046056987663&page=1&tbnh=163&tbnw=217&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:84&tx=108&ty=82

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Dear children, members and team, Alhamdolillah, in the last 5 years, our azaan, our Takbeer e Musalsal, has been echoing to defend our honor, faith, land, ideology and identity. Hundreds of programs have been done on almost all aspects of Iqbaliat, Geo-politics, economy, Islamic history, ideology, Pakistan movement, Khilafat e Rashida and on contemporary social and security issues.

These programs are the most powerful weapon systems to arm you with the knowledge to do your duty in the contemporary times, under these most grave challenges to our faith, land and dignity.

Here we bring most of them in proper playlist form for you to go through them all over again to refresh your passion, wisdom and vision. Watch them and spread the word. InshAllah, these will ignite you to desire for glory, to serve Sayyadi Rasul Allah (sm) and this Pak Sarzameen!

Barak Allah Feekum. ZH


http://www.brasstacks.ca/programs.htm

[Badsha]

Imran khan has connection to zaid hamid and hamid gul

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=imran+khan+with+ziad+hamid+and+hamid+gul&num=10&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=758&tbm=isch&tbnid=1okx5JqbMZtNbM:&imgrefurl=http://pakteahouse.net/2012/03/20/profile-zaid-hamid/large-imran-khan-shahzaman-zaid-hamid-and-lt-gen-hamid-gul-not-visible-not-verified-in-an-undated-picture/&docid=TdZTqWRIaLQTgM&imgurl=http://pakteahouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/large-Imran-Khan-Shahzaman-Zaid-Hamid-and-Lt-Gen-Hamid-Gul-not-visible-not-verified-in-an-undated-picture.jpg&w=640&h=480&ei=dxL6T5bEIMmw0QXvq6yxBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=508&sig=117034680046056987663&page=1&tbnh=163&tbnw=217&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:84&tx=108&ty=82


yes, meeting with someone means he has a connection with him :facepalm


Ch Nisar is also Imran Khans childhood friend but politically they are rivals.

Typical IK hater for no reason.



Also, I wish Zaid Hamid gets banned from Pakistan for good. If youboy is older than 17-18 years of age I will be shocked.

[Cricketismylife]

If youboy is older than 17-18 years of age I will be shocked.

at 17-18 you start to understand these "I know it all and I will get you where you want to be" type baba/peer/security analysts! lol

acc to me youboy is 14-15 at max!

[Badsha]

at 17-18 you start to understand these "I know it all and I will get you where you want to be" type baba/peer/security analysts! lol

acc to me youboy is 14-15 at max!

True but there are many immature 18 year old "death to Israel" types here as well.


An idiot of the highest proportion. "A train to connect the muslim Umma from Pakistan to Turkey via Iran".

I mean, is he even aware there already is a highway we made for that person but due to that same UMMA having 100's of enemies within we can't use that route.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Last night we gave an interview to Ummah TV UK on the current judicial and parliamentary crisis as well as the issue of NATO supplies and the role of Pak army and Chief justice. You will find this serious discussion inshAllah. It is time for the army and the CJ to deliver else it is total meltdown.

Just a hint : July 12th is going to be an important date, InshAllah!

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[Badsha]

If you don't answer our questions, how can anyone take you seriously?


Not that we take you seriously anyway supporting a clown.

[youboy]

Zaid Hamid with Faisal Rehman on Waqt News program Hot Line 11 July 2012

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[Badsha]

It's so funny how he dresses like che guevera. Hahaha.

[PetroDollars]

actually he was quite right here on what needs to be done in regards to the current chaos and government, SC needs to take a stand and pull the level on them before the country goes to the docks and install a technocratic caretaker setup.

[Indiafan]

actually he was quite right here on what needs to be done in regards to the current chaos and government, SC needs to take a stand and pull the level on them before the country goes to the docks and install a technocratic caretaker setup.

Are citizens of Pakistan so incapable that they always need a crutch in the SC, the army, etc to step up for them and unwilling to take any responsibilty themselves?

[PetroDollars]

Are citizens of Pakistan so incapable that they always need a crutch in the SC, the army, etc to step up for them and unwilling to take any responsibilty themselves?

So you want people to come out on the streets cause anarchy, kill each other and bring choas everywhere. ITS RETARDED AND NEVER WORKS, SON.

The SC is there for this sole reason and if the army and SC can work together and solve these problems peacefully in line with the constitution then only a fool would want anarchy.

[Lalafied]

Yahin to humlog maar kha gaye hain aur yehi secularism hay key hum ne Iman aur khilafah yaani Islam aur government ko alag kardiya hay.

First Islamic government was established by our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. when the Muslims got hold of the land of Medina and then Makkah. We cannot say that we will follow some part of sunnah and leave some part as per our own wish. So establishing that government is a sunnah and should be part of our Imaan when we got separate land for Muslims (Pakistan). To strengthen our imaan is to believe that working towards the establishment of that government is not separate from our daily ibadaats. That is our complete Imaan on Allah.

shariyat e muhammad aur khilafat e umar naafis karna hamaare iman ka hissa hay hamaare imaan se alag nahi.

SubhanAllah super post!

[Indiafan]

So you want people to come out on the streets cause anarchy, kill each other and bring choas everywhere. ITS RETARDED AND NEVER WORKS, SON.

The SC is there for this sole reason and if the army and SC can work together and solve these problems peacefully in line with the constitution then only a fool would want anarchy.

LMAO, who told you peaceful protests dont work? There is a voting process too. If people vote responsibily, if they believe in themselves and democracy, if they have the patience to allow democracy to continue for a good 30-40 years, country will automatically be peaceful and prosperous. Corrupt people will slowly be rooted out. But no, you guys dont want any responsibilty.

SC is not there for this function, a court and an army's function is completely different. No country in the world behaves ike Pakistan does in this manner. How long can SC and army keep on defending you? If a child is not allowed to fall and is kept on being picked up, will he ever learn to walk by himself? People in charge of SC and army are also human beings. today there might be an honest judge, what if tomorrow there is a corrupt one and he takes advantage of the country? Courts have their functions, but judges are not expected to be politicians, they have no knowledge of ruling people

The country Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis. Its about time each citizen stop feeling helpess, stops waiting for courts and army to help them and take responsibilty for their own countries

[Sultanofswing]

YOUBOY is only posting one sided story of great great lal topi wala mashkara his highness zaid hamid. why dont he answer the questions which are being raised in media where Zaid hamid clearly failed to answer?

so Mr youboy, according to you, or your chrismatic leader Mr zaid hamid

Is bin laden Shaheed or halal?

Do you support taliban? ( theres no good or bad taliban, if your argument is good or bad taliban, you're already high on smoking some good pot)

why Mr zaid hamid is totally against Democracy? and persistant about army intervention?

what political agenda does zaid hamid have? i know once on his facebook page, he posted a poll for zaid hamid for president, which terribly failed, nobody vote?


and mother of all question? where did he got super intel about 26/11 attack in india? he within 24 hrs, claimed, thoese terrorist names are hiralal and amarsingh. How does he manage to get such super intel?

plz plz answer this questions, Please enlighten me?

[youboy]

YOUBOY is only posting one sided story of great great lal topi wala mashkara his highness zaid hamid. why dont he answer the questions which are being raised in media where Zaid hamid clearly failed to answer?

so Mr youboy, according to you, or your chrismatic leader Mr zaid hamid

Is bin laden Shaheed or halal?

Do you support taliban? ( theres no good or bad taliban, if your argument is good or bad taliban, you're already high on smoking some good pot)

why Mr zaid hamid is totally against Democracy? and persistant about army intervention?

what political agenda does zaid hamid have? i know once on his facebook page, he posted a poll for zaid hamid for president, which terribly failed, nobody vote?


and mother of all question? where did he got super intel about 26/11 attack in india? he within 24 hrs, claimed, thoese terrorist names are hiralal and amarsingh. How does he manage to get such super intel?

plz plz answer this questions, Please enlighten me?

First of all plz plz can you enlighten me where Zaid Hamid has clearly failed to answer in the media the questions? As per my knowledge he is able to answer each an every question asked.

Why don't you send an email and get your answers directly from him if you are so much interested. Now a days he is very busy but lets see.

BrassTacks
Advanced Threat Analysis
Security Management Consultants

Contact numbers: Office: +92 51 5598046 Fax: +92 51 5766485 Moblile: 0321 500 1370

Email : contact@zaidhamid.pk

zaidhamid@zaidhamid.pk

http://www.zaidhamid.pk/contact.html

[PetroDollars]

LMAO, who told you peaceful protests dont work? There is a voting process too. If people vote responsibily, if they believe in themselves and democracy, if they have the patience to allow democracy to continue for a good 30-40 years, country will automatically be peaceful and prosperous. Corrupt people will slowly be rooted out. But no, you guys dont want any responsibilty.

SC is not there for this function, a court and an army's function is completely different. No country in the world behaves ike Pakistan does in this manner. How long can SC and army keep on defending you? If a child is not allowed to fall and is kept on being picked up, will he ever learn to walk by himself? People in charge of SC and army are also human beings. today there might be an honest judge, what if tomorrow there is a corrupt one and he takes advantage of the country? Courts have their functions, but judges are not expected to be politicians, they have no knowledge of ruling people

The country Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis. Its about time each citizen stop feeling helpess, stops waiting for courts and army to help them and take responsibilty for their own countries

..and you are expecting peaceful protests :)))

You are being ignorant to the facts and it seems by purpose, how do you leave everything to elections and give people the responsibilities when its so easy to make bogus votes, 33 millions for the next elections according to the EC. When these guys come back in power which is obvious and if elections take place you think people will not react violently? If you call that democracy then shame on you but i believe that's your ignorance.

SC has legal responsibilities to make according to the constitution and NO, no where in our history have we waited for the SC, so i dont know where you pulled that one from. Its only best for the country and its best for democracy that the SC interferes, otherwise we would be ruled by civilian dictators forever.

you are being hypocritical suggesting to allow democracy to roll by letting the criminals off and keeping SC out of this, your democracy is flawed son, IN REAL DEMOCRACY THE SC WOULD HAVE INTERFERED LONG AGO AND SENT THESE CRIMINALS PACKING.

[Sultanofswing]

First of all plz plz can you enlighten me where Zaid Hamid has clearly failed to answer in the media the questions? As per my knowledge he is able to answer each an every question asked.

Why don't you send an email and get your answers directly from him if you are so much interested. Now a days he is very busy but lets see.

BrassTacks
Advanced Threat Analysis
Security Management Consultants

Contact numbers: Office: +92 51 5598046 Fax: +92 51 5766485 Moblile: 0321 500 1370

Email : contact@zaidhamid.pk


zaidhamid@zaidhamid.pk

http://www.zaidhamid.pk/contact.html

why do i ask zaid hamid directly? you're here to spread his twisted message. you're representing him. n now when time came to answer for utter BS, you're trying to sneak away. exactly the way Zaid hamid does on television.

care to answer some more?

could you explain his association with Yousuf Kazzab?

what about the murder charges he is facing?

whats his defination of good taliban and bad taliban? he says TTP is bad taliban AGREED!! but the same time he says afghan taliban are good taliban?? what does he smoke? the same afghan taliban were killing mercilessly, how come they are good?

some on tv show ask him, how he will achieve Ghazwa-e-hind? his replied showed his true aukat. he said " yeh sab complex baate hamari samaj me nahi aati' then why does he keep going on and on about ghazwa-e-hind and keep igniting haterd among youth?

he shamelessly speak of killing all hindu baniya once ghazwa -e-hind achived, isnt islam for peace? who gives him authority to kill innocent people ( not like thats gonna happen in his lifetime).

and he is busy these days? what in smoking some pot? so he can come up with some more ridiculous theory? he is totally free, since media has blocked him to appear on tv shows, and rightly show.

if media has gone a single commendable job in past decade, is blocking him for good.

if you dont have answer to all these question, then please dont post, sanity must prevail. he has to be accountable.


and he always start his speech with " children' what is he? some sort of father of the nation? is he think himself as a "Quaid-e-Azam?".

[Sultanofswing]

this dilusional fool isnt able to answer any question straight!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMBzuIz1ns

[youboy]

I have not created this thread to defend Zaid Sahab. It is a thread of Takmeel e Pakistan mission. It was some other thread but people stop posting in it.

You are right in raising all of the questions above but as I said Zaid Bhai has already answered all the above questions for long now. Around 2 to 3 years ago and all of the people who follow him are satisfied with those answers.

What I said earlier that my brother you are so interested in getting those answers why don't you do some research.

If you want to keep your eyes closed from the reality its your choice. But as a Muslim and a Pakistani we from Takmeel e Pakistan mission just want our fellow Muslims & all other Pakistanis to be on the right side of the history.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

This text is from the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion and explain why the media today is so strongly controlled by Zionist forces and their snakes like SAFMA. The objective is to create confusion, anarchy, chaos, collapse of unity and uniting authority and bring about total moral and social anarchy! This is exactly what they are doing in Pakistan, creating confusion and chaos, making friends into enemies and presenting enemies into friends.

Fifth Protocol:

1st Secret:
To obtain control over public opinion, it is first necessary to confuse it by the expression from various sides of so many conflicting opinions….

2nd Secret:
"The second secret consists in so increasing and intensifying the shortcomings of the people in their habits, passions and mode of living that no one will be able to collect himself in the chaos, and, consequently, people will lose all their mutual understanding. This measure will serve us also in breeding disagreement in all parties, in disintegrating all those collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us and in discouraging all personal initiative which can in any way interfere with our undertaking."

On the contrary, Allah says in Quran:

وہ جو لوگوں کے دلوں میں وسوسے ڈالتے ہیں،

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ ﴿الحجرات: ٦﴾

اے ایمان والو اگر کوئی فاسق تمہارے پاس کوئی خبر لائے تو تحقیق کرلو کہ کہیں کسی قوم کو بے جانے ایذا نہ دے بیٹھو پھر اپنے کیے پر پچھتاتے رہ جاؤ،

That is why we say that the corrupt media is the most lethal weapon of Dajjal being used to destroy the very foundations of the faith, nation and the country. Their accountability would be as ruthless as of the TTP, BLA and the present rulers. InshAllah.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid


These two minutes will explain to you the entire war, strategy, its objectives, the traitors and their final ruthless solution! Know this reality which these traitor politicians and treacherous media will never tell you. Spread this message and fight back the enemies! May Allah be with you.

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[youboy]

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Take one hour out and watch this soul shaking interview of Zaid Hamid! All the questions you wanted to ask about Pakistan's present crisis, politics, economy, terrorism, political parties, war against TTP and the 4th generation war against Pakistan have been answered in a firm and uncompromising azaan. You will not find anyone in Pakistan giving azaan with such jalal! Allahu Akbar
dear children and members, We are giving you a duty. post the following Azaan on all your own FB accounts and any blogs, sites or channels that you manage. It is an urgent obligatory warning and a glad tiding for the millat of Pakistan and must reach every Pakistani urgently. Difficult and challenging times are coming ahead and we must prepare our nation! Jazak Allah. Zaid Hamid

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Alhamdolillah, What we exposed and confirmed 4 years ago is now being verified by the international media -- The TTP are RAW funded terrorist gang based in Afghanistan and backed by CIA/RAW and have nothing to do with Afghan Taliban who are freedom fighters Mujahideen fighting to liberate their lands from Crusaders.

When we exposed these terrorists, people called us conspiracy theorists. Today, Allah is humiliating them and their stance. We say again, if Pakistan has to defeat the TTP gangsters, then US must be thrown out of Afghanistan and NATO supplies must remain blocked.

We call upon the people of Peshawar and Chaman to rise and do their duty of resisting the NATO supplies and block the highway into Afghanistan for all NATO trucks. This is a moment of do or die for us. If these supplies go through, then a high intensity war would be upon us. All the signs are that a false flag terror attack would be conducted in London Olympics.

Khair inshAllah.

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[youboy]

Hazrat Wasif Ali Wasif. Please Spread This Message To All Pakistanis..

[youboy]

The Revival of Islam

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[youboy]

Allama Iqbal's Role in Takmeel e Pakistan

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[freelance_cricketer]

The Revival of Islam

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No wonder this gives adrenaline rush to video gaming kids out there. There's no need to provoke people to that level. :facepalm:

[Indiafan]

This thread has been going on for a while. Has Ghazwa-e-hind been achieved yet?

[youboy]

Takmeel-e-Pakistan-Construction to Completion


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[munda_khi]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Alhamdolillah, What we exposed and confirmed 4 years ago is now being verified by the international media -- The TTP are RAW funded terrorist gang based in Afghanistan and backed by CIA/RAW and have nothing to do with Afghan Taliban who are freedom fighters Mujahideen fighting to liberate their lands from Crusaders.

When we exposed these terrorists, people called us conspiracy theorists. Today, Allah is humiliating them and their stance. We say again, if Pakistan has to defeat the TTP gangsters, then US must be thrown out of Afghanistan and NATO supplies must remain blocked.

We call upon the people of Peshawar and Chaman to rise and do their duty of resisting the NATO supplies and block the highway into Afghanistan for all NATO trucks. This is a moment of do or die for us. If these supplies go through, then a high intensity war would be upon us. All the signs are that a false flag terror attack would be conducted in London Olympics.

Khair inshAllah.

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one thing i dont understand, nato supplies starts from karachi. why he is appealing to the people of peshawar and chaman, why he is not trying to stop it at the start.

[Indiafan]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Alhamdolillah, What we exposed and confirmed 4 years ago is now being verified by the international media -- The TTP are RAW funded terrorist gang based in Afghanistan and backed by CIA/RAW and have nothing to do with Afghan Taliban who are freedom fighters Mujahideen fighting to liberate their lands from Crusaders.

When we exposed these terrorists, people called us conspiracy theorists. Today, Allah is humiliating them and their stance. We say again, if Pakistan has to defeat the TTP gangsters, then US must be thrown out of Afghanistan and NATO supplies must remain blocked.

We call upon the people of Peshawar and Chaman to rise and do their duty of resisting the NATO supplies and block the highway into Afghanistan for all NATO trucks. This is a moment of do or die for us. If these supplies go through, then a high intensity war would be upon us. All the signs are that a false flag terror attack would be conducted in London Olympics.

Khair inshAllah.

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What international media?

[Cricketismylife]

What international media?

Don't bother with this guy or this thread.

With some time uboy will grow up/come to senses and start liking girls instead of zaid :yk

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Crossfire on Dunya TV 14-08-12. The system is so filthy and corrupt that there is no chance that it will reform itself. Now either a Salllahuddin Ayubi is needed or another "Halaku Khan" will wipe the filthy political, judicial and economic system. Quaid's vision was to create an Islamic state on the model of Khilafat e Rashida. That is our destiny and mision now! Enough of deceptions and lies in the name of democracy, capitalism and dictatorships.

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[spinDoc]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25654&stc=1&d=1339712819

this picture describes zaid hamid perfectly!

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

InshAllah, these 13 minutes will change your entire perspective towards life, towards Pakistan and towards your duty to Rasul Allah (sm)! Our mission, passion, duty and role in the world defined for those who seek to be soldiers of Rasul Allah (sm) in these times of great test and trial for the Ummah! Share and spread and be part of this khair.

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[Cricketismylife]

The YEAR 2028 IS WHEN ALL THE DHOTHIS OF ALL THE BUNYAN WILL BE RIPPED AND INDIA WILL BE CONQUERED

zaid followers are real tolerant about other cultures/religions

[Cricketismylife]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qcM03cwH8

Awkward!!

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Now when the fierce debate has begun on the political model in Pakistan, let us arm you with knowledge so that you can fight back the liberal secularists. Remember this that in Pakistan both democracy and dictatorships are the two sides of the same coin!!! There is absolutely no difference between the two. The politicians and the media only make a fool out of you by engaging you in this useless debate. why?

1. In both systems, the banking system of Riba based on paper currency remains alive, which is a war with Allah and Rasul Allah (sm). In 65 years of Pakistan history, neither the democracy nor the dictatorship has ever tried to change the Riba system.

2. Both systems accept and approve the Anglo-saxon Kufr judicial system based on 1860 British laws. The courts of Pakistan do not decide on the basis of Sharia either in democracy or in dictatorship.

3. Both systems approve and support the exploitative feudal and capitalist system and corruption. Corruption has eaten into the bones of Pakistan and has remained alive in the last 65 years.

4. Both systems violate the constituion by not accepting the Quran and sunnah as the supreme law and violate article 62 and 63 of the constitution to bring good Muslims into power. Both systems are secular and not based on Quran and Sunnah.

5. Both systems support and approve the exploitative class based education system to produce secular and liberal people through the education system. In the last 65 years, no government has addressed the issue of Islamic education to the nation based on our ideology and identity.

That is why Allama Iqbal had called democracy a dragon of cruelty and tyranny which appears nice on the surface but in reality is darker than Changez Khan!! Also, he said that Shaitan and Dajjal has had themselves created this democracy to deceive the people into believing that now the power is in their hands while in reality the system remains same. Now you can see why he said that.

In Islamic Khilafat e Rashida model system, which is written in our Constitution as well, the sovereignty belongs to Allah alone and man is only a custodian (khalifa) of that divine sacred trust! In that system, there will be no Riba, no whimsical laws made by a man or by a parliament, no corrupt could hold power or office, educational system will not exploitative secular and liberal but based on solid moral foundations of golden Islamic principles and judiciary would be based on Quran and Sunnah. Humans would be equal, respected and protected and the ruler would be accessible, humble and dignified momin protecting the honor and dignity of the Ummah like a father figure.

Both democracy and dictatorship are deadly against Khilafat e Rashida model. The survival of this Kufr system depends upon social exploitation, Riba and British laws. In Pakistan, all judiciary and the political parties as well as dictators have always violated the Constitution's first clause that Sovereignty belongs to Allah alone and man is only a khalifa!! The elections that take place always violate article 62,63 - thus bring in most corrupt and filthy politicians. That is why we reject elections. If elections are held in an environment where article 62,63 is enforced, the entire government and Parliament of today would be disqualified and jailed !!!!

The judiciary which claims to protect Islamic clause of the constitution, is itself guilty of supporting Kufr laws against the Cosntituion as the entire judicial process and system is violently oposed to Quran and Sunnah. This is the dilemma of this millat and that is why we never had Islamic laws in this country in the last 65 years and remain in state of anarchy, exploitation and zulm. The existing system is so decadent and cancerous that it cannot be reformed. It has to be surgically removed only as the people who are running it are bloodsuckers and will never give way to Sharia based Khilafat e Rashida model.

Now what is the solution? The anarchy has reached such a state in the country that either Allah would bless us with a "Salahuddin Ayyubi" or would punish us with a "Halaku Khan"! There is no third option. The time is almost up for this millat now and its most zalim munafiq leaders. Very soon, you will see the decision of Allah (swt). Time for debate and argument has long gone. Khair inshAllah.

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[Nitin Tomer]

This would have been mildly irritating if it was not rip-roaringly funny. This guy is a certified nut-job :)

Really the worst information war India can wage against Pakistan, is spreading this guy's videos to the world ;-)

[x2zee123]

The Revival of Islam

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zaid hamid, what a legendary speaker this guy is :O:14:

[truthseer]

I love how people living abroad support a war which would see the people living here being the only sufferers. Want to be taken seriously? Come here first and then talk about war with India and suffer the danger of being nuked.

[shortbread]

Newsflash: Hamid sahib has just learnt about the PAF airbase attack, he woke up late today. Is now headed in that direction on a white horse, everyone rest easy!!

[carbon11]

Newsflash: Hamid sahib has just learnt about the PAF airbase attack, he woke up late today. Is now headed in that direction on a white horse, everyone rest easy!!

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

The nation's economic system is at war with Allah (swt) and then the leaders ask us how to fix the economic crisis of the country?

The Judiciary does not implement Qisas (justice and punishment), in which Allah says is the life of any society, and then we ask why is our society dying of violence and terror?

This is the system of Khilafate Rashida in which the economic system will NOT be based on Riba, Justice will be free, at the doorsteps and will be seen to be implemented, hungry and poor will be fed, all income taxes will be abolished, Only Zakat and Usher (agri tax) would be imposed, State would be responsible for education, health, security, dignity and livelihood of each and every citizen and the corrupt would hang by the poles! The rulers will be true servants of the people, living a humble life and accessible to the masses, their guardian angels, not abusers and tyrants.

This is going to happen very soon InshAllah. This is the mission and duty of every Muslim now. This is called Takmeel e Pakistan!!!

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[Amar786]

[QUOTE=youboy;5049198]Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

The nation's economic system is at war with Allah (swt) and then the leaders ask us how to fix the economic crisis of the country?

The Judiciary does not implement Qisas (justice and punishment), in which Allah says is the life of any society, and then we ask why is our society dying of violence and terror?

This is the system of Khilafate Rashida in which the economic system will NOT be based on Riba, Justice will be free, at the doorsteps and will be seen to be implemented, hungry and poor will be fed, all income taxes will be abolished, Only Zakat and Usher (agri tax) would be imposed, State would be responsible for education, health, security, dignity and livelihood of each and every citizen and the corrupt would hang by the poles! The rulers will be true servants of the people, living a humble life and accessible to the masses, their guardian angels, not abusers and tyrants.

This is going to happen very soon InshAllah. This is the mission and duty of every Muslim now. This is called Takmeel e Pakistan!!!

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Brother it would be nice if you get information benefits system which umar farooq azam and other things which muslims did like open universities , algebra (maths), etc because i dont think neither every muslim or majority no what the muslims have done they just think mullah are extemist which they aint and show things which the west copy . Even the sunnah of the prophet (salala hu alai wasalam) which the science is proving like using the miswak, wearing a imama, drinking in three sips etc.

Majority dont want to no about zaid hamid if you have video of zahid hamid or any scholar plz load them so people could no what our ancestors have done.

[Cricketismylife]

EDp0uETD818

HAHAHAHa.

This never gets old.

Whats the point of the video?

Zaid giving horse riding lessons? lol

[musaarthali]

Zaid saab Mega troll

[youboy]

Brother it would be nice if you get information benefits system which umar farooq azam and other things which muslims did like open universities , algebra (maths), etc because i dont think neither every muslim or majority no what the muslims have done they just think mullah are extemist which they aint and show things which the west copy . Even the sunnah of the prophet (salala hu alai wasalam) which the science is proving like using the miswak, wearing a imama, drinking in three sips etc.

Majority dont want to no about zaid hamid if you have video of zahid hamid or any scholar plz load them so people could no what our ancestors have done.

The Golden Age of Islam under Khilafah

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

The Munafiqs and liberal seculars say that today it is not possible to create a political, economic and social model based on Khilafate Rashida! This is not just rubbish but also a deliberate sinister propaganda to create doubt on the the moral, spiritual and ideological foundations of Islam.

What is Khilafat e Rashida model??? Any government and rule led by a dignified, honorable, brave, courageous and spiritual leader would be modeled on Khilafate Rashida. Creating such a spiritual system is actual that simple. It has been achieved dozens of time in Muslim history before and will be repeated again till we reach the end times when a total and complete Khilafat on the pattern of Nubuwwat would be created. Hadees Shareef calls it Khilafat ala Minhaj un Nubuwwat!!

But till that time, many governments would come which would be modeled on the Sunnah of Khilafate Rashida. Sayyadna Umer Bin Abdul Aziz, achieved it. Sultan Sallahuddin Ayubi also achieved it. Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir wrote Quran and sewed caps to earn his living. Hundreds of Muslims Kings, Generals, rulers created such just systems of governance and administration that humans were dazzled by their justice, courage and honor. If there is any khair in any government and ruler, you will find that it has been modeleld on Khilafate Rashida! Even the West today says that they have learnt administration from Sayyadna Umer (RA).

When Allah wills, he will give Pakistan a just ruler like Sultan Sallahudin Ayubi who will establish the political, economic and social systems based on Khilafate Rashida, NOT democracy, NOT dictatorship, Not Socialism, NOT capitalism, NOT communism, NOT secularism! We are unique. We have done it before. We will do it again, InshAllah! Now we will NOT settle on Haraam!!

[youboy]

Orya Maqbool jaan, for every Pakistani

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[Indiafan]

As the caller says, its kids between 14 and 22 who mostly follow Zaid

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[Indiafan]

Zaid gets pwned

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[Indiafan]

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

The imposed which we face today and its next phase is being fought and will be fought within our cities. Pak army will lead the way but the entire nation will have to join in this sacred duty. Prepare yourself physically, mentally and spiritually. Next few months would be of great test. Only the strongest souls would be able to take the stress. Those who are in denial today would be shocked into incapacity and breakdown. Only the most honorable and dignified would remain standing. Never ever betray your army at this stage. The time has come and they are the only steel wall between your homes and the enemy tanks! If you do not believe us, ask Muslims of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Their armies fell apart and then the nations!

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

About 900 years ago, Muslim world's capital Baghdad was threatened from two axis. Western Crusaders were advancing from Europe, while Mongol armies of Changez Khan were charging in from East. Khwarzam Shah in Afghanistan and Khurasan was desperately trying to stop the advance of Mongols but the traitors within Baghdad court influenced the Caliph to adopt a policy of appeasement - aman ki Asha - and betrayed the forces of Khwarzam Shah !

Within Baghdad, a 4th generation war had ignited sectarian violence, and psyops were launched to present Mongols as friends and Muslim army as burden on treasury and disarmament campaign in the name of budget cuts. The result was that when Halaku came to Baghdad after over running Afghanistan, he butchered each and every citizen of Baghdad! Nearly a million slaughtered including the Caliph, Generals, Ulama, Ministers, and citizens!

Today , Pakistan is in an identical situation. AfPak, Cold Start, & 4th GW has surrounded us. Afghans are desperate for help while within Pakistan, a complete state failure is being created through traitors & media. All political parties are sold out pygmies who cannot see beyond the next elections or petty party interests, fighting like animals on mainstream media in front of the whole nation. No political party or leader would tell you about the threats we face today. They do not have the capacity to see them -- blind, deaf, dumb and idiots! Enemies have surrounded us from all sides and the rulers, politicians, Ulama, media and the Danishwer are making fun of our azaan. When such a time comes, then wait for a Halaku or a Crusader or both!!

InshAllah, Pakistan will remain protected. the Filth in Pakistan will be swept away in a sea of blood. In the coming days, you will see the seas turning red. Do not complain then for you have been given enough warnings!!! The soldiers of Rasul Allah (sm) will rise from this test of fire and sword and then complete the destiny which has been written. Khair inshAllah!

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid explaining about the TTP "Khawarij"


Read this post slowly and carefully and seek protection of Allah from Shaitan when you read this. No one will dare to tell you this in Pakistan.

We Muslims of Pakistan will have to address the gravest threat to our faith, unity and ideology maturely now. We have many threats and enemies have surrounded us from all sides but the real threat is within. We will have to address and attack the Khawarij with full force. The entire nation must know who they are within the Pakistani nation.

Our mission is to protect our Islamic ideology and Pakistani identity. We do not divide the millat in religious or political sects nor we divide the Ummah on arrogance of Jahilia to divide them on ethnic, regional or linguistic lines. We are only Muslims as an Ummah and Pakistanis as an identity within it.

The biggest threat to Pakistan now is from Khawarij and their deviant murderous ideology. Indeed Khawarij are a great fitnah which our nation does not realize. Rasul Allah (sm) has advised and warned the Ummah strongly in over 100 Ahadees about Khawarij. Imam Ibn Taimiya says that Khawarij will always be present in Muslim society but you will only identify them when they pick up weapons and start to kill Muslims ruthlessly otherwise they would live like pious religious men with Quran and Salat within the Muslims. So it becomes extremely difficult to identity Khawarij until it’s too late, when they wage their war against the Ummah.

Understand this that Khawarij is NOT a sect. It is a mentality of anarchy and chaos. They are Takfiris who call Muslims as Kafirs and apply the verses of Quran on Muslims which have come for non-Muslims. They would side with Mushriks and wage war against Muslims. They would call Muslim leaders as Kafirs, Muslim state as Kafir but would never wage a war against Jews, Zionists and Hindus. They would be extremely religious with long beards and praying all night and fasting all day but they would be the "dogs of hell".

In Muslims history, Khawarij have come from various sects in various times at various places. Sectarian differences and religious disagreements are present all over the Muslim world in entire history but they cannot be called Khawarij until they wage a war on the entire Muslim ummah and start to kill and slaughter the Muslims due to religious differences. Sects or groups can be deviant, sinful, confused, “Gumrah” but to call them Khawarij, certain very strict conditions have to be met. This is critical to understand.

In the past, Khawarij killed Hazrat Ali (RA). They waged a war against Sultan Salahuddin Ayyubi and today men like Ayman al Zawahiri and Hakeem ullah mehsud are doing the same.

Today, they are the TTP in Pakistan. They call Quaid e Azam as Kafir, Allama Iqbal as Kafir. Pakistan as Kafiristan and are on a mission to destroy or take over Pakistan to make it easy for the Hindus to slaughter us as they did in 1947. Khawarij are the most dangerous weapon in the hands of Hindus and Zionists.

But who are the TTP and from where they have emerged? This is critical to understand.

Within the Muslims, there are many sects. Shias and Sunnis are two large ones but there are many sub sects within them also. For example in Pakistan, we have Asna Ashari Shias, Ismaili Shias, Ahl Hadees sect, Deobandis, Barelvis, Sufis etc. Within Sunnis, Pir Jamaat Ali Shah, ameer e millat was a Faqeer of Ahl sunnat wal Jamaat and the entire Muslim nation followed him to support Quaid e Azam. Raja sahib Mehmood abad and many top Muslim league leaders were Shias and supported the Pakistan movement also. Muslim league was formed by Sir Agha Khan, who was an Ismaili, even though in the times of Crusades and Salahuddin Ayyubi, the Ismaili sect was known to be Khawarij and Assasins but not today.

We do not approve of sectarian divides within Muslims but mentioning this just to explain our point.

When Pakistan was created all Muslims from all sects supported Pakistan strongly except a political party Jamiat e Ulama e Hind from Deobandi school. They decided to side with the Hindus and were thus called as Congressi Muslims in history. These are historical facts and cannot be denied. Till this day, despite the slaughter of millions of Muslims at the hands of Hindus, the Congressi Mullahs of Deoband India still support Hindus and Congress. Allama Iqbal had fiercely attacked the deobandi leader Maulvi Hussain Ahmed Madni and taunted him harshly that they are following the path of “Abu Lahab”. Again, this entire episode is part of Kalam e Iqbal and cannot be denied.

Within the Deobandi school, two groups were created. One was pro-Pakistan and supported Quaid e Azam. Other was anti-Pakistan and remain at war with Muslims to this day. Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Maulana Shabbir Ahmed usmani were blessed in this way that they broke ranks from Deoband and rebelled against JUH to join Quaid e Azam. Allama shabbir Ahmed Usmani even saw Rasul Allah (sm) in his dream and Rasul Allah (sm) called Quaid e Azam as his soldier and thus Allama Shabbir Ahmed Usmani became a loyal and faithful Deobandi to join the Pakistan movement. Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi resigned from Deoband and supported cause of Pakistan after Gandhi was invited in that Madrassa for speech. This is also a fact that when these two great scholars from Deoband broke ranks, they faced extreme anger, rage, resistance and humiliation from Congressi Mullahs of Deoband.

When Pakistan was created, Deoband was already divided into two camps. Pro-Pakistan Deobandi who made Pakistan their home with love and over the years, have defended Pakistan, Pakistan’s ideology, Quaid e Azam and true Jihad in Afghanistan and Kashmir. Jamaat e Islami had also opposed Pakistan in the beginning but when Pakistan was created, they have always defended Pakistan at all levels and have even given blood for Pakistan, just like pro-Pakistan Deobandis.

But, there was also a group of Congressi JUH mullahs of Deoband who came to Pakistan and even though they still live in Pakistan, they have never accepted Pakistan as a state for Muslims. They always speak against Pakistan’s ideology, against two nations theory, against Allama Iqbal, call Quaid e Azam as Kafir and have now been armed by the NATO and RAW to wage war against Pakistan. They were here for the last 65 years but never had weapons, training camps and bases to start their war against Pakistan and Muslims. Now they have and thus we see this ruthless war against all Muslims – against all sects, against all Pakistanis and against Pak army. TTP are anti-Pakistan deobandi gangs waging a war against Muslims and are the Khawarij of today. Their brothers and friends are present in political parties of Pakistan, in government, in media and in many deobandi scholars of Pakistan. Their militant arm is TTP but they also have many political, religious and government arms who silently spread venom and poison against Pakistan’s ideology. Remember the words of Mufti Mehmood, father of JUI chief Fazlur Rehman, when he said that “we were not part of the sin of making Pakistan”? This is the mentality we are talking about.

The Khawarij of today are threatening all Muslims who are opposed to suicide bombings and war against Pakistan. Majority of deobandis in Pakistan are pro-Pakistan and are NOT khawarij but are too afraid to speak against these takfiri Fasadis. Great scholars from deoband who spoke against TTP and suicide bombings have been assassinated by these Kharjis. Great scholars of Ahl-Sunnat and Barelvis, Ahl-Hadees and Shias who have spoken against TTP have also been killed.

All sects in Pakistan have spoken passively and weakly against suicide bombings but no one dares to call TTP as Khawarij, except Dr. Tahir ul Qadri but then he had to leave the country for security reasons. It is the most serious responsibility of Pakistani Deoband Ulama to speak against TTP and call them Khawarij. In a religious environment divided between sects, it is important that the scholars who belong to the sect of the TTP must speak out loudest. Pakistani Deoband ulama must also condemn the Congressi Mullahs of India of JUH and ask them to do tauba for their rebellion against Rasul Allah (sm), for supporting slaughter of Muslims at the hands of Hindus and for waging a war against Medina e Sani Pakistan, as Allama Iqbal had said clearly that they were following the path of Abu Lahab.

Khawarij of TTP are the biggest threats for all Muslims of all sects. It is NOT a sectarian issue. It is an issue of a fitnah which have risen in Pakistan and incidentally this gang of killers belong to Congressi Deobandi school. In Libya, Syria and other places, these Khawarij are from other sects also. So, again, we say, it is NOT a sectarian issue. It is a religious issue of a deviant dangerous Takfiri ideology which is attacking all Muslims today in Pakistan. Ulama of Deoband have the most highest responsibility as TTP and their likes in Pakistan belong to Deoband school of Congressi Mullahs who have always opposed Pakistan. There are political terrorists in Pakistan also like MQM, ANP, BLA etc but they are terrorists but NOT Khawarij. Rasul Allah (sm) had clearly given definition of Khawarij which only applies to TTP today, NOT to Afghan Mujahideen, NOT to Kashmiri Mujahideen, NOT to Hamas, NOT to Chechens, NOT to Hizbullah, NOT to Iraqi resistance. The so called Al-Qaeda and TTP are the same gangs of Khawarij. Understand this clearly and fight against them or be killed at their hands.

May Allah have mercy upon our souls and protect us from the Fitnah of Khawarij. May Allah protect Pakistan, Muslims and Pak army from their sharr. May Allah destroy them at the hands of Pakistan army and bring peace in the country. Ameen Ya Rabbul alimeen.

Jazak Allah

(Armaghan-e-Hijaz-42) Hussain Ahmad (حسین احمد)
By Allama Iqbal

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[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

When Allah (swt) wants to punish a people, He blinds them to see the truth and they cannot make a distinction between Haq and Batil and become deaf, dumb and blind! When a nation starts to support and sympathies with Khawarij, then wait for Allah's azaab either in the form of Khawarij or Crusaders!

It is not just the judicial system which is corrupt, the mentality, wisdom and thinking of the entire nation has been corrupted by the system of Dajjal and its paid media. This is the job of media -- to put waswasa in your hearts, make you doubtful about the real identity of the enemies and confuse you between your friends and enemies. For Allah's sake, leave your own opinion aside and read what Rasul Allah (sm) has told us about Khawarij! If this is not the picture of a Kharji then what is it?????? These are the Khawarij of TTP based in Lal masjid under the orders, protection, direction and planning of the two Mullahs!

Rasul Allah (sm) has blessed the army which fight the Khawarij! If you believe in Rasul Allah (sm) then stop giving your own opinion or you will be lose your entire good deeds and you wont even know about it. Anyone, who says that TTP and their likes are not khawarij is in any case either an idiot or an enemy and his opinion does not matter.

The world knows that Lal masjid Mullahs did. The army fought a battle with them for 7 days. Over 50 soldiers and officers died in that battle. The same Lal masjid supporters went to Swat and started the Swat rebellion under Mullah Fazlullah and now are waging a war from Kunar against Pakistan. Chief Justice and his judiciary and the judicial system should have known all this before granting them honorable release and bails. Army gave all the evidence but the Judiciary refuse to accept the evidence. NOT a single terrorist of Lal masjid has ever been punished. Army did its job which it was asked to do. Musharraf handled it foolishly but that does not mean Lal masjid did not have khawarij!

On the blindness of the people, all we can say is "innalillahe inna alehe rajeoon! What else can you say about people who are hypnotized by the media controlled by Dajjal!

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[shakil]

@youboy

What is the purpose of copy-pasting stuff off the internet when you are not willing to reply if anyone questions Zaid Hamid.

[youboy]

@youboy

What is the purpose of copy-pasting stuff off the internet when you are not willing to reply if anyone questions Zaid Hamid.

Any question about Takmeel e Pakistan mission are welcome in this thread. There are thousands of people who are working towards this mission. Its not Zaid Hamid's personal thing. I am trying to play a small part in this mission to spread the message to all Pakistanis. People can agree or disagree its their views. Here no one is trying to force something on anyone.

This is not a thread of asking personal question about Zaid Hamid. There was earlier a thread on Zaid Hamid and anyone wishes to make that active please go ahead. If in my personal view I find replying to those question worth it I will do it Insha Allah.

Also Takmeel e Pakistan mission is for Pakistanis. If any Indian poster randomly post in this thread and start his fun making agenda or personal attack on Zaid Hamid. You want me to reply to those posts.

[shakil]

^ Okay thanks.

It is too much to read/listen but I will try to understand the concept :razzaq

[Garuda]

Any question about Takmeel e Pakistan mission are welcome in this thread. There are thousands of people who are working towards this mission. Its not Zaid Hamid's personal thing. I am trying to play a small part in this mission to spread the message to all Pakistanis. People can agree or disagree its their views. Here no one is trying to force something on anyone.

This is not a thread of asking personal question about Zaid Hamid. There was earlier a thread on Zaid Hamid and anyone wishes to make that active please go ahead. If in my personal view I find replying to those question worth it I will do it Insha Allah.

Also Takmeel e Pakistan mission is for Pakistanis. If any Indian poster randomly post in this thread and start his fun making agenda or personal attack on Zaid Hamid. You want me to reply to those posts.

Could you please list few bullet points of the mission ? What are the objectives of this mission ?

[youboy]

Could you please list few bullet points of the mission ? What are the objectives of this mission ?

Pakistan ka matlab kya

la ilaha illallah (Pakistan was created in the name of religion Islam. Its ideology is Islam)

Pakistan ka maqsad kya

Muhammadur Rasool Allah (S.A.W.) [To run the country in accordance with the teachings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) i.e. in accordance with Quran and Sunnah].

Sorry if you find me a little rude but as an Indian do you really want to know about this mission for Pakistan and Pakistanis or you just want to know that Ghazwa e Hind is in the objectives of this mission or not.

[KingKhanWC]

Any question about Takmeel e Pakistan mission are welcome in this thread. There are thousands of people who are working towards this mission. Its not Zaid Hamid's personal thing. I am trying to play a small part in this mission to spread the message to all Pakistanis. People can agree or disagree its their views. Here no one is trying to force something on anyone.

This is not a thread of asking personal question about Zaid Hamid. There was earlier a thread on Zaid Hamid and anyone wishes to make that active please go ahead. If in my personal view I find replying to those question worth it I will do it Insha Allah.

Also Takmeel e Pakistan mission is for Pakistanis. If any Indian poster randomly post in this thread and start his fun making agenda or personal attack on Zaid Hamid. You want me to reply to those posts.

It's a good thread. Even if people don't agree there is no harm in reading differing viewpoints, I've just read a Fox news report. Ignore the trolls especially the Indians, keep it up.

[Garuda]

Pakistan ka matlab kya

la ilaha illallah (Pakistan was created in the name of religion Islam. Its ideology is Islam)

Pakistan ka maqsad kya

Muhammadur Rasool Allah (S.A.W.) [To run the country in accordance with the teachings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) i.e. in accordance with Quran and Sunnah].

Sorry if you find me a little rude but as an Indian do you really want to know about this mission for Pakistan and Pakistanis or you just want to know that Ghazwa e Hind is in the objectives of this mission or not.
I think , I clearly asked what is the objectives of the mission.

Do you think I will be interested in Gazwa whatever?

So yah, go ahead and let me know what is the objectives of the mission you are helping.

[youboy]

I think , I clearly asked what is the objectives of the mission.

Do you think I will be interested in Gazwa whatever?

So yah, go ahead and let me know what is the objectives of the mission you are helping.

I asked the question as this mission is exclusive for Pakistan and Pakistanis. So being an Indian I thought that you will be more interested that how will this mission effect India.

Its an Urdu word "Takmeel e Pakistan"

Takmeel means (completing the work)

Pakistan was created in the name of Islam by Muslims but the rule of Allah was not established and till today Pakistan is a secular country. So Takmeel e Pakistan mission is to complete the work which our forefathers were not able to complete i.e., to establish the law of Allah in Pakistan.

Many Pakistanis also don't agree to this and ask for Pakistan to be remain secular. But the reality is that the whole point of asking a separate land for Muslims by our forefathers depends on Islam as an ideology.

[James]

:))

Never seen so much crap in me life. People are always complaining about anti-Islam and anti-Pak trolls here, and they have a case, but at least those kinds of trolls can be laughed off. To be honest this kind of thread/user is just as annoying, and far more hostile and dangerous.

[Garuda]

I asked the question as this mission is exclusive for Pakistan and Pakistanis. So being an Indian I thought that you will be more interested that how will this mission effect India.

Its an Urdu word "Takmeel e Pakistan"

Takmeel means (completing the work)

Pakistan was created in the name of Islam by Muslims but the rule of Allah was not established and till today Pakistan is a secular country. So Takmeel e Pakistan mission is to complete the work which our forefathers were not able to complete i.e., to establish the law of Allah in Pakistan.

Many Pakistanis also don't agree to this and ask for Pakistan to be remain secular. But the reality is that the whole point of asking a separate land for Muslims by our forefathers depends on Islam as an ideology.
All right. All the best for your mission.

[shakil]

I asked the question as this mission is exclusive for Pakistan and Pakistanis. So being an Indian I thought that you will be more interested that how will this mission effect India.

Its an Urdu word "Takmeel e Pakistan"

Takmeel means (completing the work)

Pakistan was created in the name of Islam by Muslims but the rule of Allah was not established and till today Pakistan is a secular country. So Takmeel e Pakistan mission is to complete the work which our forefathers were not able to complete i.e., to establish the law of Allah in Pakistan.

Many Pakistanis also don't agree to this and ask for Pakistan to be remain secular. But the reality is that the whole point of asking a separate land for Muslims by our forefathers depends on Islam as an ideology.


Who better to ask than Baba-e-Quom himself

(Quaid-e-Azam, broadcast to the U.S.A. February,1948)
“The Constitution of Pakistan has yet to be framed——-I am sure it will be of a democratic type embodying the essential principles of Islam. Today, they are as applicable in modern times, as these were 1300 years ago———in any case, Pakistan is NOT going to be a Theocratic State——-to be ruled by the priests with a Divine mission”

Check the 1971 constitution:


* Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

* And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order :-

* Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people;

* Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed;

* Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah;

So essentially Takmeel-e-Pakistan has been complete.

[youboy]

Who better to ask than Baba-e-Quom himself

(Quaid-e-Azam, broadcast to the U.S.A. February,1948)


Check the 1971 constitution:



So essentially Takmeel-e-Pakistan has been complete.


Brother writing in the constitution and implementing it in the country is a total different thing.

Does Islam gives immunity to the Head of the State.
Does Islam allows a type democracy where the most corrupt person in the country becomes the Head of the state.
Does Islam allows that government should take loan on interest.
Does Islam allows a interest based banking and interest based economy to be implemented in the country.
Does Islam allows that a system should be made where a rich will become richer and poor will become poorer.
Does Islam allows a judiciary system in which a rich and influential person can save himself with the power of his money but poor person has to be on the doorsteps of the court to cry for justice.

and many more.

Still the law of Allah has to be implemented in Pakistan.

[shakil]

Does Islam allows a type democracy where the most corrupt person in the country becomes the Head of the state.


There is only "democracy". There is no ayein bayein shaeyn. If majority wants it, the law will be implemented/repealed. Quaid wanted Pakistan to be a democracy. End of... Now please tell all your family and friend members to vote. That is the least we can do to enact Baba's vision.


Does Islam allows that government should take loan on interest.
Does Islam allows a interest based banking and interest based economy to be implemented in the country.
Does Islam allows that a system should be made where a rich will become richer and poor will become poorer.
Does Islam allows a judiciary system in which a rich and influential person can save himself with the power of his money but poor person has to be on the doorsteps of the court to cry for justice.

and many more.

Still the law of Allah has to be implemented in Pakistan.

What Baba said is that everything must be done democratically.
So we have to work through democracy like giving Imran Khan a chance or peaceful protests, awareness campaigns, tabligh etc.

When majority wants something, they will slowly work towards it. Don't fret.

[youboy]

There is only "democracy". There is no ayein bayein shaeyn. If majority wants it, the law will be implemented/repealed. Quaid wanted Pakistan to be a democracy. End of... Now please tell all your family and friend members to vote. That is the least we can do to enact Baba's vision.



What Baba said is that everything must be done democratically.
So we have to work through democracy like giving Imran Khan a chance or peaceful protests, awareness campaigns, tabligh etc.

When majority wants something, they will slowly work towards it. Don't fret.

There is no ayein bayein shaeyn. If majority wants it, the law will be implemented/repealed.

This is the most dangerous, against and contradicting the statement of Quaid e Azam which you quoted. So here are you saying that any law which is approved by majority but against the principle of Islam can be implemented.
So you will take the democratic part of Quaid e Azam statement but will not accept the second part that it has to embody essential principles of Islam.

Yes we are also talking about democracy as Quaid E Azam said.
It will be of a democratic type embodying the essential principles of Islam.
Why you want to follow Western democracy which has been implemented in Pakistan why not Islamic democracy.

When a system is defined for me by Allah I dont want to look anywhere else. Each and every law in the country will be according to Islam.

If you think that by implementing the Islam will bring an extremist Mullah as ruler of the state, then please go back and study the government structure established by Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. and later by Khulafa e Rashideen according to Islam. The extremist Mullah cannot even stand in election in the Islamic democracy nor these corrupt politicians whose only aim is to come in power for looting and who have to be washed with NRO.

In Iran a President is chosen democratically where a middle class man got elected as a President (he didn't had to spend money like Imran Khan is doing to get awareness for people to vote for him). and I am not claiming that Iran's law is 100% as per Islam. You also know the strong economy of Iran but you can claim that it is because of oil, but Pakistan has enough resources worth many more times the worth of Iranian oil.

So you think that with all these corrupt politicians playing dirty politics, false voters, rigid voting, etc etc Imran Khan can win elections with majority under this current system.

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Brother writing in the constitution and implementing it in the country is a total different thing.

Does Islam gives immunity to the Head of the State.
Does Islam allows a type democracy where the most corrupt person in the country becomes the Head of the state.
Does Islam allows that government should take loan on interest.
Does Islam allows a interest based banking and interest based economy to be implemented in the country.
Does Islam allows that a system should be made where a rich will become richer and poor will become poorer.
Does Islam allows a judiciary system in which a rich and influential person can save himself with the power of his money but poor person has to be on the doorsteps of the court to cry for justice.

and many more.

Still the law of Allah has to be implemented in Pakistan.

Like it was implemented in Afghanistan? If it was a success there then why not move there pronto and lead by example?

[shakil]

There is no ayein bayein shaeyn. If majority wants it, the law will be implemented/repealed.

This is the most dangerous, against and contradicting the statement of Quaid e Azam which you quoted. So here are you saying that any law which is approved by majority but against the principle of Islam can be implemented.
So you will take the democratic part of Quaid e Azam statement but will not accept the second part that it has to embody essential principles of Islam.

Yes we are also talking about democracy as Quaid E Azam said.
It will be of a democratic type embodying the essential principles of Islam.
Why you want to follow Western democracy which has been implemented in Pakistan why not Islamic democracy.

When a system is defined for me by Allah I dont want to look anywhere else. Each and every law in the country will be according to Islam.

If you think that by implementing the Islam will bring an extremist Mullah as ruler of the state, then please go back and study the government structure established by Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. and later by Khulafa e Rashideen according to Islam. The extremist Mullah cannot even stand in election in the Islamic democracy nor these corrupt politicians whose only aim is to come in power for looting and who have to be washed with NRO.

In Iran a President is chosen democratically where a middle class man got elected as a President (he didn't had to spend money like Imran Khan is doing to get awareness for people to vote for him). and I am not claiming that Iran's law is 100% as per Islam. You also know the strong economy of Iran but you can claim that it is because of oil, but Pakistan has enough resources worth many more times the worth of Iranian oil.

So you think that with all these corrupt politicians playing dirty politics, false voters, rigid voting, etc etc Imran Khan can win elections with majority under this current system.

Brother what are you talking about. Pakistan has >90% Mulsims. Why would they approve laws that go against Islam like making Alcohol legal, Pork halal etc.

[youboy]

Brother what are you talking about. Pakistan has >90% Mulsims. Why would they approve laws that go against Islam like making Alcohol legal, Pork halal etc.

Hello Hello you are in Pakistan.

The laws are not approved by the people of Pakistan. The laws are approved by the 2/3 majority in Parliament of corrupt politicians who claim that they represent 180 million people of Pakistan.

Making a rule that Head of the state having immunity is not against Islam.
Making a rule to use of interest based economic system is not against Islam.

[James]

Seriously why would you even bother attempting to start a debate with a user like this OP?

Just call out his laughable thread and schizophrenic agenda for what they are, and leave. :)

[PakPrince]

Brother what are you talking about. Pakistan has >90% Mulsims. Why would they approve laws that go against Islam like making Alcohol legal, Pork halal etc.

Turkey is also 98% Muslim..

everything is legal there and with the support of the people

[cricketworm]

LOL, just came across this! Someone is badly in need of human's the most pleasurable natural activity. :)

[shakil]

Making a rule that Head of the state having immunity is not against Islam.
Making a rule to use of interest based economic system is not against Islam.

Who is going to tell me the real version of Islam. Not all people consider current system as unislamic. Not all would agree that Presidential immunity is against Islam.

Why don't you leave it to the Muslim individuals to vote as per their version of Islam? Why are you stating that this is Islam and this is not? Are you a pope or something who can say what is right and what is not? Leave it to the people to interpret Quran the way they think is right. No one can say that his interpretation is the only correct one.

Pakistan was formed for all Muslims. Not for only those Muslims who think Banks are unislamic or Mutah should be illegal.

[PakPrince]

There is no ayein bayein shaeyn. If majority wants it, the law will be implemented/repealed.

This is the most dangerous, against and contradicting the statement of Quaid e Azam which you quoted. So here are you saying that any law which is approved by majority but against the principle of Islam can be implemented.
So you will take the democratic part of Quaid e Azam statement but will not accept the second part that it has to embody essential principles of Islam.

Yes we are also talking about democracy as Quaid E Azam said.
It will be of a democratic type embodying the essential principles of Islam.
Why you want to follow Western democracy which has been implemented in Pakistan why not Islamic democracy.

When a system is defined for me by Allah I dont want to look anywhere else. Each and every law in the country will be according to Islam.

If you think that by implementing the Islam will bring an extremist Mullah as ruler of the state, then please go back and study the government structure established by Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. and later by Khulafa e Rashideen according to Islam. The extremist Mullah cannot even stand in election in the Islamic democracy nor these corrupt politicians whose only aim is to come in power for looting and who have to be washed with NRO.

In Iran a President is chosen democratically where a middle class man got elected as a President (he didn't had to spend money like Imran Khan is doing to get awareness for people to vote for him). and I am not claiming that Iran's law is 100% as per Islam. You also know the strong economy of Iran but you can claim that it is because of oil, but Pakistan has enough resources worth many more times the worth of Iranian oil.

So you think that with all these corrupt politicians playing dirty politics, false voters, rigid voting, etc etc Imran Khan can win elections with majority under this current system.

this post is filled with a load of rubbish but this bold text really takes the cake.

You must be delusional to think that Pakistan has anywhere near the natural resource which iRAN has let arone worth many times more.

what have you been smoking?

Islam should have nothing to do with the state. Seperation of state and mosque was Quaid's vision

[PakPrince]

Hello Hello you are in Pakistan.

The laws are not approved by the people of Pakistan. The laws are approved by the 2/3 majority in Parliament of corrupt politicians who claim that they represent 180 million people of Pakistan.

Making a rule that Head of the state having immunity is not against Islam.
Making a rule to use of interest based economic system is not against Islam.

they are

the constitution was made by the 1970 assembly which was as fair as elections have gotten in Pakistan

[cricketworm]

Seriously why would you even bother attempting to start a debate with a user like this OP?

Just call out his laughable thread and schizophrenic agenda for what they are, and leave. :)

I am surprised that thread like this exist on PP. :)) For the jokes I guess.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Allah says in Quran that your society, people, faith, Imaan and all that you posses will only live if you enforce Qisas! Which means justice, adal, punishment to criminals, Khawarij and to those who do zulm. This judicial system has collapsed. On the day of judgment, these judges, lawyers and prosecution, will NOT be able to give any excuse in front of Allah (swt). They sit on a Kufr British made judicial system anyways which is at war with Allah and Rasul Allah (sm). They do not decide according to Sharia but anglo-saxon law of 1860. Today, Pakistan is at war. This judicial system and its decadent laws have failed.

This stupid arguments that judges can only decide on proof which is the responsibility of the prosecution will NOT hold in front of Allah (swt). Judges are corrupt and afraid also. Allah wants justice NOT excuses.

All over the world, new laws and new courts have been formed by all countries to handle such terrorism. Army can court martial these terrorists in army courts because army is fighting them and there are no other witness than army, ISI or the agencies whose evidence is not admitted in the court. No witness appear against these terrorists. Judges dare not decide cases against them.

Army courts must be invoked and court martial proceedings should be initiated. CJ must realize that his judicial system has collapsed bringing the country down with it. CJ is blocking the move to initiate military courts. If he is sincere, he must allow the army to deliver justice or resign from his post of CJ. He is harming the country now. We want justice!! It does not matter who delivers. Thats what Allah wants too!

[James]

So 'anti-Islam' and 'anti-Pak' trolls get censured and yet not this laughable excuse for an individual.

He is in fact insulting Islam with his aggressive rhetoric, pathetic remarks, and total unwillingness/inability to engage in debate or argument. He does not even reply to questions, he just spouts dogmatised garbage. An insult to the intellectual and deep-thinking Muslims that we do see.

Eject. Now.

[PakPrince]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Allah says in Quran that your society, people, faith, Imaan and all that you posses will only live if you enforce Qisas! Which means justice, adal, punishment to criminals, Khawarij and to those who do zulm. This judicial system has collapsed. On the day of judgment, these judges, lawyers and prosecution, will NOT be able to give any excuse in front of Allah (swt). They sit on a Kufr British made judicial system anyways which is at war with Allah and Rasul Allah (sm). They do not decide according to Sharia but anglo-saxon law of 1860. Today, Pakistan is at war. This judicial system and its decadent laws have failed.

This stupid arguments that judges can only decide on proof which is the responsibility of the prosecution will NOT hold in front of Allah (swt). Judges are corrupt and afraid also. Allah wants justice NOT excuses.

All over the world, new laws and new courts have been formed by all countries to handle such terrorism. Army can court martial these terrorists in army courts because army is fighting them and there are no other witness than army, ISI or the agencies whose evidence is not admitted in the court. No witness appear against these terrorists. Judges dare not decide cases against them.

Army courts must be invoked and court martial proceedings should be initiated. CJ must realize that his judicial system has collapsed bringing the country down with it. CJ is blocking the move to initiate military courts. If he is sincere, he must allow the army to deliver justice or resign from his post of CJ. He is harming the country now. We want justice!! It does not matter who delivers. Thats what Allah wants too!

you been drinking a lot bro?

what do you prefer? straight up vodka?

[cricketworm]

This thread needs

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[shakil]

Turkey is also 98% Muslim..

everything is legal there and with the support of the people

Turkey is a different story brother, It gained independence from theocracy. People of Turkey were fed up with the so called "Khilafah".

Baba's vision was that People of Pakistan would be predominantly Muslim and would create a democracy keeping in mind Islamic principles.

Which Islamic principles? Where Muslims are free to eat beef, where they can take holidays on Eids, where they can practice Islam freely without any worries for persecution.

Mission accomplished except perhaps the democracy part which is an ongoing struggle up till now (< 50% vote).

[PakPrince]

Turkey is a different story brother, It gained independence from theocracy. People of Turkey were fed up with the so called "Khilafah".

Baba's vision was that People of Pakistan would be predominantly Muslim and would create a democracy keeping in mind Islamic principles.

Which Islamic principles? Where Muslims are free to eat beef, where they can take holidays on Eids, where they can practice Islam freely without any worries for persecution.

Mission accomplished except perhaps the democracy part which is an ongoing struggle up till now (< 50% vote).

but he also said that that religion will have not role to play in the state and politics. And people will nto be seen as Hindus, Muslims, Sunnis, Shias etc but as Pakistan. on these counts among others, we have massively failed :(

[shakil]

but he also said that that religion will have not role to play in the state and politics. And people will nto be seen as Hindus, Muslims, Sunnis, Shias etc but as Pakistan. on these counts among others, we have massively failed :(

I wonder if pre-Zia era or even pre-partition, we were so radicalized. I guess what we need is "Roti, Kapra aur Makan" - radicalization emerges from desperation.

But for now we can only hope.

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[Indiafan]

Turkey is a different story brother, It gained independence from theocracy. People of Turkey were fed up with the so called "Khilafah".

Baba's vision was that People of Pakistan would be predominantly Muslim and would create a democracy keeping in mind Islamic principles.

Which Islamic principles? Where Muslims are free to eat beef, where they can take holidays on Eids, where they can practice Islam freely without any worries for persecution.

Mission accomplished except perhaps the democracy part which is an ongoing struggle up till now (< 50% vote).

All of that happens in India. Beef is eaten on a large scale. Most office give holidays on EID. Most muslims practise their religion without any worries of persecution

Also do honestly tell me, are all muslims free to practise their religion in Pakistan or only Sunnis? Wait a minute, didnt you guys declare a whole sect called Ahmedis as non-muslims? What benifits did they get from Pakistan's creation? At least they wouldnt have been non-muslims in India

Muslims when in the minority, had no problem calling discrimination, but as soon as they come into the majority, they force other minorities to bow to their wishes

[insaaniyat]

All of that happens in India. Beef is eaten on a large scale. Most office give holidays on EID. Most muslims practise their religion without any worries of persecution

Also do honestly tell me, are all muslims free to practise their religion in Pakistan or only Sunnis? Wait a minute, didnt you guys declare a whole sect called Ahmedis as non-muslims? What benifits did they get from Pakistan's creation? At least they wouldnt have been non-muslims in India

Muslims when in the minority, had no problem calling discrimination, but as soon as they come into the majority, they force other minorities to bow to their wishes

Muslim do have fears in India. Muslims are discriminated on a large scale in India. Majority and minority will always exist in all society. Therefore discrimination will not go away. Hindu relegion evolved from discriminating others. Brahamans wont eat at yadavs etc.

[shakil]

All of that happens in India. Beef is eaten on a large scale. Most office give holidays on EID. Most muslims practise their religion without any worries of persecution

Also do honestly tell me, are all muslims free to practise their religion in Pakistan or only Sunnis? Wait a minute, didnt you guys declare a whole sect called Ahmedis as non-muslims? What benifits did they get from Pakistan's creation? At least they wouldnt have been non-muslims in India

Muslims when in the minority, had no problem calling discrimination, but as soon as they come into the majority, they force other minorities to bow to their wishes

Do you guys have hudood law? blasphemy law? Madrasa funding from govt. ? Muslims can an virtually enact any law they want. May be in future they want to impose niqab law in future (democratically), then there is no problem.

This is what is Pakistan.

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

The greatest leader after Tipu Sultan died this day after creating not just our beloved Medina e Sani but also setting its idelogical and spiritual direction for all times to come. Hear the last official words, his will, for the nation. He was dying but still managed to come one last time to make this historic declaration at the inauguration of State bank of Pakistan. The modern economic system (based on riba, banks, paper currency) has brought the world to a disaster. he wanted State bank to create an Islamic economic system based on Quran and Sunnah for the whole humanity!! MashAllah

May Allah bless the soul of our beloved Quaid and allow us to complete the mission he left unfinished... InshAllah, it will be.

37kV3XWa_R8

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

Arm yourself with knowledge. This is the history they will never teach you. Now when the arguments of liberal secularists have been comprehensibly defeated about a "secular" Quaid and "secular" Pakistan, they are shifting their arguments to"Quaid wanted a state for the Muslims but not an Islamic state" type non-sense. We will now post solid, authentic historical archival material for you to know what our founding fathers and Quaid wanted. InshAllah, misison Takmeel e Pakistan is the romantic journey to achieve what our founding fathers left unfinished for us to complete. InshAllah, it will be.

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[shakil]

Who is going to tell me the real version of Islam. Not all people consider current system as unislamic. Not all would agree that Presidential immunity is against Islam.

Why don't you leave it to the Muslim individuals to vote as per their version of Islam? Why are you stating that this is Islam and this is not? Are you a pope or something who can say what is right and what is not? Leave it to the people to interpret Quran the way they think is right. No one can say that his interpretation is the only correct one.

Pakistan was formed for all Muslims. Not for only those Muslims who think Banks are unislamic or Mutah should be illegal.

Where is my answer youboy?

[Garuda]

Brother writing in the constitution and implementing it in the country is a total different thing.

Does Islam gives immunity to the Head of the State.
Does Islam allows a type democracy where the most corrupt person in the country becomes the Head of the state.
Does Islam allows that government should take loan on interest.
Does Islam allows a interest based banking and interest based economy to be implemented in the country.
Does Islam allows that a system should be made where a rich will become richer and poor will become poorer.
Does Islam allows a judiciary system in which a rich and influential person can save himself with the power of his money but poor person has to be on the doorsteps of the court to cry for justice.

and many more.

Still the law of Allah has to be implemented in Pakistan.
One question youboy.

IF you feel these above things should not be happening in Pakistan, then who do you think should stop this?

Also, who will authorize that knight ?

[youboy]

Who is going to tell me the real version of Islam. Not all people consider current system as unislamic. Not all would agree that Presidential immunity is against Islam.

Why don't you leave it to the Muslim individuals to vote as per their version of Islam? Why are you stating that this is Islam and this is not? Are you a pope or something who can say what is right and what is not? Leave it to the people to interpret Quran the way they think is right. No one can say that his interpretation is the only correct one.

Pakistan was formed for all Muslims. Not for only those Muslims who think Banks are unislamic or Mutah should be illegal.

First of all we are not forcing are message on anyone or asking to come and join us. Second our message is backed by facts both from Quran and Sunnah and historical historical. Also we are not forcing our interpretation of Quran on anyone.

Lets not discuss about history or Sunnah, Lets discuss Quran and also not our interpretation. Lets discuss your interpretation

Can you bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding and gives presidential immunity or any kind of immunity to an individual.

Can u bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding which allows interest based economy in the society.

Can u bring any verse in the Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding allows the act of NRO so that the corrupt people can be elected.

There are many more you bring the constitution points and we can discuss.

You are confused a little about Islam bro, Islam is not what I think or you think or all think. It is about what Allah (S.W.T.) has clearly stated in Quran.

[shakil]

First of all we are not forcing are message on anyone or asking to come and join us. Second our message is backed by facts both from Quran and Sunnah and historical historical. Also we are not forcing our interpretation of Quran on anyone.

Lets not discuss about history or Sunnah, Lets discuss Quran and also not our interpretation. Lets discuss your interpretation

Can you bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding and gives presidential immunity or any kind of immunity to an individual.

Can u bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding which allows interest based economy in the society.

Can u bring any verse in the Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding allows the act of NRO so that the corrupt people can be elected.

There are many more you bring the constitution points and we can discuss.

You are confused a little about Islam bro, Islam is not what I think or you think or all think. It is about what Allah (S.W.T.) has clearly stated in Quran.

Some things in Quran are clear cut like law against Zinna, Alcohol, Gambling etc.

But there are many many things even important ones which are not crystal clear. For e.g. Hijab is mentioned but it is not clear how much is absolutely essential for a Muslimah. When even the 4 imams have different opinions about it, how can you come up and say that there is only one interpretation? Have you never ever heard of Ijmah and Qiyaas?

[youboy]

One question youboy.

IF you feel these above things should not be happening in Pakistan, then who do you think should stop this?

Also, who will authorize that knight ?

Definitely the people of the country. That is the reason we ask for Islamic version of democracy.

I know that Imran has the vision and is a leader who can help the situation in Pakistan. Almost all people who love Pakistan agree that he can be that leader. But under this democratic system does Imran has a chance to win majority. The issue is not that if Imran is not elected or not the issue is that can Pakistan afford another Zardari, Shareef or even dictatorship. My answer or maybe the answer of all Pakistanis will be 'No'.

Bring in the Islamic version of democracy
You will not see any corrupt landlord, corrupt politician or Maliks, Sardars or Chaudhry or even these so called Mullahs will not qualify to stand in election, winning a seat is far from it.
I can assure you under Islamic version of democracy that Imran will be elected as majority people of Pakistan supporting him.

[shakil]

First of all we are not forcing are message on anyone or asking to come and join us. Second our message is

What is "our message"? I thought you were talking about Quaid's message? Why push your ideology in the name of Pakistan?

[shakil]

Bring in the Islamic version of democracy


Please define Islamic version of democracy in two/three sentences for everyone to understand

[shakil]

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Can you bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding and gives presidential immunity or any kind of immunity to an individual.

Can u bring any verse in Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding which allows interest based economy in the society.

Can u bring any verse in the Quran which can be interpreted as per your understanding allows the act of NRO so that the corrupt people can be elected.


Didn't Hazrat Umar (RA) started child benefit system? Now tell me where in the Quran or hadith it is written?

[James]

Khalifah is always envisaged by the bros as if it would be a culmination for humanity, an earthly nirvana, a tolerant and beautiful Eden free of sin and human corruption. It's the last point here which I particularly disagree with. Islamic authority figures and Muslim leaders haven't exactly got the greatest record.

[youboy]

Some things in Quran are clear cut like law against Zinna, Alcohol, Gambling etc.

But there are many many things even important ones which are not crystal clear. For e.g. Hijab is mentioned but it is not clear how much is absolutely essential for a Muslimah. When even the 4 imams have different opinions about it, how can you come up and say that there is only one interpretation? Have you never ever heard of Ijmah and Qiyaas?

Yes now you are talking.

Now bring up which implemented laws in the constitution has come up through Ijmah and Qiyaas.

Did NRO, presidential immunity, interest based banking etc etc.

An example of a survey is done (a form of Ijma) with a small group not 180 million people, more than 82% people say laws should follow strictly the Quran. This is a result of Ijma of small percentage of people taking part in it. In my opinion this result will not be greatly change if all eligible take part in it.