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chui_kadoo
2nd June 2012, 18:09
Alot of fellow members on here go on about Imran Nazir being a tried and tested failure at the T20 International level but lets see how is international T20 Stats compare with all the batsmen/ All rounders in the squad or fringe players.

Matches Batting Average Strike Rate

Imran Nazir 16 23.1 138

Ahmed Shezad 7 19.85 106

Abdul Razzaq 26 23.0 126

Awaiz Zia 3 15.6 90

Imran Farhat 7 10.5 109

Shoaib Malik 40 23.1 111

M Hafeez(captain) 30 19.7 115

Shahid Afridi 49 17.0 142

Umar Akmal 30 27.7 120

Asad Shafiq 10 19.2 104

Khalid Latif 6 5.5 73

Younis Khan 25 22.1 121


Well now. Imran Nazir has the 2nd best average in the current set up and the 2nd best strike rate by a distance.

And remember his average would have been better if it wasnt for those 2 run outs.

Well If Imran Nazir is a tried and tested failure in T20's then what are the others who keep getting chance after chance.

Hes one of our best T20 players and the stats prove that. Only Umar Akmal has a slightly better average but he has a worser strike rate.

Even the awesome AB deviliers only has an average of 24 and a strike rate of 119 in T20's and you never would see him dropped

Get this lad in the T20 team ASAP. Also he is a cheetah in the field and saves 10-15 runs. An absolute dynamite and a game changer. He should be the first name on the team sheet.

Still mind boggled why he is continuosly ignored in this format. Almost been 2 and half years.

Bilal7
2nd June 2012, 18:20
Agree with you fully.

Bullet Drive
2nd June 2012, 18:22
Hafeez is a very poor T20 batsmen. Has 2 50's in T20 cricket and both against minnows in Zimbabwe. He also has 3 consecutive ducks(3 0's) in his last 3 innings. Very poor for the captain of Pakistan. His all round ability keeps him in though. Very good bowler and fielder however I feel the pressure of captaincy will get to him and he'll just bottle it. Dunno why, I just feel that why.

Imran Nazir needs to be in the side. The problem is Shehzad needs to be in the side too and possibly Jamshed. Its a hard one. I'd take out Latif. My top order would be like this

Imran Nazir, Shehzad, Jamshed and then Hafeez at 6. It's a real hard one as all those players deserve a go. If I had to drop one it would be Jamshed, just for this format though. Big fan of Jamshed but sometimes you have to sacrifice in cricket.

chui_kadoo
2nd June 2012, 18:37
Hafeez is a very poor T20 batsmen. Has 2 50's in T20 cricket and both against minnows in Zimbabwe. He also has 3 consecutive ducks(3 0's) in his last 3 innings. Very poor for the captain of Pakistan. His all round ability keeps him in though. Very good bowler and fielder however I feel the pressure of captaincy will get to him and he'll just bottle it. Dunno why, I just feel that why.

Imran Nazir needs to be in the side. The problem is Shehzad needs to be in the side too and possibly Jamshed. Its a hard one. I'd take out Latif. My top order would be like this

Imran Nazir, Shehzad, Jamshed and then Hafeez at 6. It's a real hard one as all those players deserve a go. If I had to drop one it would be Jamshed, just for this format though. Big fan of Jamshed but sometimes you have to sacrifice in cricket.
I would have Ahmed Shezad opening with Imran Nazir. Maybe have Jamshed down the order.

Nav_Sidd
2nd June 2012, 23:26
Second best along with?? :D

Seriously though the guy is just awesome n its crazy how he doesnt make the team...i guess the only reason could be his fitness, almost always calls for a runner

IM NOT YOU
2nd June 2012, 23:39
shocking that he cant get into this team

Assassin7
2nd June 2012, 23:46
is it too late to get him into the T2O WC team? Realistically, what are the chances of getting him in the squad. Would love to see him there

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 12:59
Second best along with?? :D

Seriously though the guy is just awesome n its crazy how he doesnt make the team...i guess the only reason could be his fitness, almost always calls for a runner
He is an unbelievable athlete and a dynamite in the field. One of the best fielders we have produced. Fielding is such a crucial element in the T20 format so it is mind boggling why such a player is constantly kept out. He would save atleast 10 runs in the field

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:01
is it too late to get him into the T2O WC team? Realistically, what are the chances of getting him in the squad. Would love to see him there
Its never too late. He should be slotted in ASAP. In fact its the perfect time to include him just before the T20 WC

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:04
Hafeez
Shahzad
Akmal
Malik
Misbah
Razzaq
Sarfaraz
Afridi
Gul
Riaz
Ajmal

Unbeatable....

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:06
Hafeez
Shahzad
Akmal
Malik
Misbah
Razzaq
Sarfaraz
Afridi
Gul
Riaz
Ajmal

Unbeatable....
Where is Imran Nazir ?My stats and not to forget his dynamite fielding have just proved that he should be in the team ASAP.

MRSN
3rd June 2012, 13:07
If not for that run out I'm sure Nazir would have stayed with the team much longer:(

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:08
If not for that run out I'm sure Nazir would have stayed with the team much longer:(
Remember he was run out twice. Once in the final and once against Australia in Australia.

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:10
Where is Imran Nazir ?My stats and not to forget his dynamite fielding have just proved that he should be in the team ASAP.

he probably shouldnt have been dropped when he was....

I personally think that its between

Shahzad
Nazir
Jamshed
Shahzaib

for the opening slot with Hafeez.

Any one of the 4 could play really.... they are all similar... flashy but unproven.

I just like the look of Shahzad. I thnk he has something about him.


Like I said... none of them has really stood out so far.

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:11
Also to add he averaged 40+ in the ICL and BPL Leagues at a strike rate above 150+

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:12
he probably shouldnt have been dropped when he was....

I personally think that its between

Shahzad
Nazir
Jamshed
Shahzaib

for the opening slot with Hafeez.

Any one of the 4 could play really.... they are all similar... flashy but unproven.

I just like the look of Shahzad. I thnk he has something about him.


Like I said... none of them has really stood out so far.
Rememebr he is currently in great form. He was 2nd run getter in both the BPl league and also the recent Faysal bank league. He deserves his place on merit. he is a game changer in T20. An absolute must.

Also had a great T20 WC in 2007 and has all the shots in the book and can tear any attack apart. We need him in the T20 WC squad.

Its not as if the current opening pair are doing amazing. Khalid Latif averageing 5.

saeedhk
3rd June 2012, 13:14
Really revealing stats.

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:15
Rememebr he is currently in great form. He was 2nd run getter in both the BPl league and also the recent Faysal bank league. He deserves his place on merit. he is a game changer in T20. An absolute must.

He is in form... but I see more potential in Shahzad.

2 ODI centuries at age 19 cant be scoffed at.


But like I said... there isnt much between them.

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:16
He is in form... but I see more potential in Shahzad.

2 ODI centuries at age 19 cant be scoffed at.


But like I said... there isnt much between them.
Both should be in the squad. Both are a must. They will do well together

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:18
Really revealing stats.
Seems like the haters who said he was a tried and tested failure in T20's have done a runner from this thread.
My stats hit the mark beautifully. Also his domestic stats are much better. All bases covered. He is a must. No one can argue that.

Also check his strike rate in T20's. Strike rates are so important in such a format and alot of people on here forget to realize that

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:20
People also forget that fielding is a vital element in T20's. We have so many passengers on the field at the moment and Nazir is electric in the field

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:22
Both should be in the squad. Both are a must. They will do well together

Personally i think there is one spot in the team between the two of them....

but understand if you would like both.

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:24
Personally i think there is one spot in the team between the two of them....

but understand if you would like both.
Remember both Imran and shezad dont necessarily both have to open.One can move down.

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:27
Remember both Imran and shezad dont necessarily both have to open.One can move down.

Those bases are covered in my team....

I would give one of them a try and see how they perform... then drop one and try the other.

(But only after a proper long run).


Cant have too many flashy players in the same team.... its asking for trouble.

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 13:28
Those bases are covered in my team....

I would give one of them a try and see how they perform... then drop one and try the other.

(But only after a proper long run).


Cant have too many flashy players in the same team.... its asking for trouble.
Both should be in the squad of 15 for the T20 WC

MR__KHAN__JI
3rd June 2012, 13:33
Both should be in the squad of 15 for the T20 WC

I wouldnt argue with that...

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 13:54
Imran's average is skewed...

He should be included but not as an opener...can't play quality bowlers..

saeedhk
3rd June 2012, 14:00
Imran Nazir is a must for T20s!!!!

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 14:06
Imran's average is skewed...

He should be included but not as an opener...can't play quality bowlers..
What do you mean skewed. Back up your statment. Stop talking trash.

yes ur are right its skewed. If it wasnt for those two run outs his average would have been in the late 20's

Zaz
3rd June 2012, 14:24
Serious changes need to be made to this t20 team The batting is absolutely abysmal

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 15:04
Serious changes need to be made to this t20 team The batting is absolutely abysmal
Yes the obvious change. Bring in :iamlegend

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:06
What do you mean skewed. Back up your statment. Stop talking trash.

yes ur are right its skewed. If it wasnt for those two run outs his average would have been in the late 20's

Why do not you write a letter with blood to ICC that those run outs be ignored...

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 15:09
Why do not you write a letter with blood to ICC that those run outs be ignored...
Whats your point? Why dont you back up your original post on this thread

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:14
His avg vs:

Aus: 5.00
Eng: 3.00
SA: 5:00


NZL: 45.33
BD: 76.00

out of his total 324 runs in 15 innings he made 212 in 5 matches against BD and NZL with 1 NO ..with avg of 53.00

and in rest... 112 runs in 12 completed innings.. avg: 9.33

Trash! just like your stats...

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:15
Whats your point? Why dont you back up your original post on this thread

point is that that your plea regarding his run-outs is plain pathetic!

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 15:18
point is that that your plea regarding his run-outs is plain pathetic!
That was the response to your original post where you said his stats are skewed. How the hell are his T20 stats skewed? Stop talking Rubbish

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:21
That was the response to your original post where you said his stats are skewed. How the hell are his T20 stats skewed? Stop talking Rubbish

:facepalm: @ your dumbness

Read what you wrote yourself in OP!

please answer.
Q: Has you mentioned 2 run-out's in OP? (hint: yes)

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:25
That was the response to your original post where you said his stats are skewed. How the hell are his T20 stats skewed? Stop talking Rubbish

advice:
If you don't understand the concept it's better to remain quiet...
(you are just exposing your ignorance)

Executioner
3rd June 2012, 15:26
at least imran is better than this khalid latif :facepalm:

Though ofcourse nasir jamshed is a good option, gives a left-right combination but his fielding is something that he will soon be famous for, unless he improves his figures ofcourse

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 15:29
My run outs response was targeted after you said his stats are skewed regardless of what I said in my OP

Black Zero
3rd June 2012, 15:33
My run outs response was targeted after you said his stats are skewed regardless of what I said in my OP

Well I guess mindless slogger deserves a mindless supporter.

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 15:37
Well I guess mindless slogger deserves a mindless supporter.
Haters will always hate

chui_kadoo
3rd June 2012, 17:31
Updated Batting Stats after today's game.

Matches Batting Average Strike Rate

Imran Nazir 16 23.1 138

Ahmed Shezad 8 18.1 106

Abdul Razzaq 26 23.0 126

Awaiz Zia 3 15.6 90

Imran Farhat 7 10.5 109

Shoaib Malik 41 23.3 111

M Hafeez(captain) 31 19.8 112

Shahid Afridi 50 18.2 142

Umar Akmal 31 26.9 118

Asad Shafiq 10 19.2 104

Khalid Latif 7 4.8 66

Younis Khan 25 22.1 121

Nav_Sidd
4th June 2012, 04:22
He is an unbelievable athlete and a dynamite in the field. One of the best fielders we have produced. Fielding is such a crucial element in the T20 format so it is mind boggling why such a player is constantly kept out. He would save atleast 10 runs in the field

Thts wht surprises me man ... he calls for a runner and then next ball skips down the wicket for a huge heave, all in all have no problem with him being in the team...even if he has to bat without running at all :D

pakistanigoneaussie
4th June 2012, 05:20
id put nasir jamshed ahead of him tbh , or make nazir and prof open with nasir at 3, there is a lot of work with the t20 squad, im actually open to playing 7 t20s now