Why We Moved ! [Archive] - PakPassion - Pakistan Cricket Forum

Saj

31st January 2005, 12:08

Quite a few of you must be asking the question why move from SN. The site was growing, the site was successful so why move.

Basically you have to realise that the old PakPassion site was not ours, but belonged to Sportnetwork. All the time and effort put in by the moderators was mainly for the benefit of SN, we were never recognised or thanked at any time for any of the work, even though they were receiving over 700,000 hits per month due to us. We were limited in what we could and could not do, which limited our options for future development on the site.

The site itself was just one of a standard template that SN provided so we were just "another" site to them and we could not change the look or feel of PakPassion.

There had been many occasions when posts had been edited by SN, posts deleted by SN, posters banned by SN, without notification to the moderators.

Recently I had been threatened rather rudely by SN that they were going to close both PakPassion and ICF down, because they were receiving too many complaints from both sites. You may have realised that there had been periods recently when both sites had been "switched off" for a few hours. Basically the life of PakPassion was in SN's hands and they could activate and deactivate and close the site down whenever they wanted to.

Our destiny is in our own hands now, this site is ours and we can basically do whatever we want with this site. We can make changes as and when we feel like it, we can actually do what you guys want and are suggesting. We have a lot of plans for the future and we can implement these knowing that we are not "dogsbodies" for someone else.

Whilst I realise that the vast majority of PakPassioners have moved with us over here, please inform any that may not have heard about the move.

Many thanks for your time.

Fessal

31st January 2005, 12:27

Great explanation and post Saj bhai :-) Well said |-T
SN kee aisi toh taissi...anyway if ICF closes down I have no complaints cause I hardly post there.. but for there sakes and for our ffriendly battles I hope it stays. ;-)

Initially I didnt like quite a few things on this site but I can tell u we have to be patient and things will slowly get sorted. I ahve sorted quite a lot of my probs accessing and now I love it and enjoying it. |-A :-)

Schiller

31st January 2005, 12:42

The fact that there was a threat as to its closure a few times meant that we should try to have a place of our own perhaps.
Not to mention we can try to customise it much as we can

p.s this doesnt mean that everyone will be satisfied ;-)

Rudi hater

31st January 2005, 12:50

Great move Saj, well done.

MIG

31st January 2005, 12:51

Saj: Have asked you this before but no harm in bringing this up in public. How is this being financed and do you need help with it ? Also, the time and effort put in by volunteers needs to be rewarded as well - pls let me know how I can help

Fessal

31st January 2005, 12:54

Saj,
I have an idea of finance. Should I air it here or do u want me to email u?

Rudi hater

31st January 2005, 13:06

Saj, we all belong to pak passion you might as well send us a news letter to our e-mails and tell us there. See if we have got any other suggestion to add to yours.

31st January 2005, 13:13

right behind u Saj.

Hash

31st January 2005, 13:32

yeh, I just read what you said on ICF as well. If you have something to say you could always say it here and not backstab us

Mercenary

31st January 2005, 13:49

MIG we do need some money. Can everyone write out checks and send them to...

Jeera Blade
Pind Badhmasha Dha
Ghunda Tax District

...all cheques to be addressed to Mercenary

tahaqureshi

31st January 2005, 13:52

if u need any help at all watsoever i would love to offer my expertise...

take me as a passionate and committed member of PP and i will always support u

31st January 2005, 14:07

actually its a good move but cant u get a direction from sn to this

waquas_uk

31st January 2005, 14:26

thats good then i do prefer the layout of the old site

Saj

31st January 2005, 14:47

MIG, firstly my sincere apologies for not replying to your e-mail. I promise I will reply in the next day or two. Things, as you can imagine have been pretty hectic the last few days.

Thank you very much for the email and for your kind words and prayers, which act as a great incentive and spur to all those working on the site.

MIG, we are looking for sponsors for the site and if you are aware of any company or anybody who may be interested, please let me know and I will endeavour to provide full information to them.

NorthStar

31st January 2005, 14:54

Saj,

thanks for explaining why we had to move....I agree that the move was necessary, as regards funding issues - if were likely to get 700,000 hits per month then that would be attractive for advertisers.

31st January 2005, 15:17

Good move

Shayan

31st January 2005, 15:30

Very good move, i hope the site prospers in the future.

Lightning

31st January 2005, 15:46

Saj, It'll be a little bit before we grow used to this site and I have no doubt it will really rock!

31st January 2005, 17:16

yeh that was defintly a gud move.

Khalil

31st January 2005, 17:39

At least now I know that I won't be banned for being 'anti-war '

Karachi King

31st January 2005, 18:46

although i don't post here so often (but visit here regularly) & my presence may not effect much but i wanna say that i am here with all of you guys.

Aneel

razzler

31st January 2005, 18:48

Excellent move Saj. Well done. Many Many thanks to Saj and all those who helped in the development of this site. Need any help just mail me and will be more than happy to help.

Officer Barbrady

31st January 2005, 20:05

Good job Saj.

Perhaps you can consider Google advertising? I have seen that on similar sites.

If possible, a mass email could be sent to all those who ever registered on PP informing them of the move. We moved rather quickly and some people may not know of it.

Daoud

31st January 2005, 20:05

Nah, its a good move Saj. The format and layout of the site is much better, and now that the posts are on different pages, it means finding posts will be much easier. Hope everything runs smoothly. I guess the only problem is its not as easy to switch over and see what the neighbours are saying, but its no big loss

Kean0

1st February 2005, 01:09

Well done Saj, i personally think its a great time to implment change, especailly when someone else was pulling the strings and u did all the work.

I guess as wiht any businss we should be afraid of change, its is vital and im sure i say this on everyones behalf im glad you took the first step.

Lets hope the site grows and grows, INSHALLAH

1st February 2005, 01:56

Thanks for the explanation. The interface of this site is better imo and i think we'll all gradually warm to the feel of this one in time.

Raz

1st February 2005, 06:36

Yea well done Saj for the brave move. I really like the new site and inshallah it will continue to grow. If you need anything then let me know.

pakistani pride

1st February 2005, 06:58

thanks for explaining why we had to move saj. I never knew it was like this !

Moderatores you guys are JUST 2 GREATTTTTT..!!.!

feather

3rd February 2005, 18:06

Many thanks Saj for the explanation of the sudden move. I did have a good idea about the problems you guys could have had with them and it seems like that is what happened.

Like others have said please let us know how we can help and we all will do our best as we all are part of PP.

Jedi Knight

3rd February 2005, 19:09

Well done saj

U were proactive rather than reactive...

Are u really a pakistani????

Only kidding mate. Well done with all the good work that u and the team have put in.

pakistani_cricketer

4th February 2005, 11:08

salam

gd thinkin guys

Hussain

6th February 2005, 14:44

Good job Saj

HAFRIDI

9th February 2005, 10:27

well done yaar!!

Mercenary

31st August 2005, 02:32

Big Daddy

31st August 2005, 04:48

ok i admit it , i just come here to get miggy banned

Geordie Ahmed

31st August 2005, 05:06

Its been around 8 months since we moved from Sportnetwork. In retrospect I believe it was the best thing we could have done.

What about everyone else? What are your views about PP gaining independence 8 months after the event??

I agree it was the best thing to have happened! i like the old PP style and i was initially dissapointed we moved BUT im chuffed now!
This site is 10 times better than Sportnetwork - also the freedom to do what you want (obviously withing boundaries) is refreshing!

ALSO its good that we have moved beyond our "friendship" with a certain site (they still feature BUT not as heavily as they once did)

Brilliant move :19:

Kashif

31st August 2005, 09:51

Brilliant move, I was pessimistic whether the new site could cope with the new members and extra site hits. There were expected initial teething problems and now the website is stable and looks fab. Well done to the PP admin and everyone that contributes to make this possible.

Rob H

31st August 2005, 09:54

Ya, i can see now that the move from sportnetwork was for the best. It is much better here :)

Hussain

31st August 2005, 13:09

Bold decision i shud say abt moving

Bitman

31st August 2005, 13:51

I agree it was the best thing to have happened! i like the old PP style and i was initially dissapointed we moved BUT im chuffed now!
This site is 10 times better than Sportnetwork - also the freedom to do what you want (obviously withing boundaries) is refreshing!

ALSO its good that we have moved beyond our "friendship" with a certain site (they still feature BUT not as heavily as they once did)

Brilliant move :19:

I completely share GA's sentiments with regards to this matter :19:

Hash

31st August 2005, 13:59

I completely share GA's sentiments with regards to this matter :19:

z10

31st August 2005, 14:04

i third that notion....

Rob H

31st August 2005, 15:07

i third that notion....
Were you even on sn? :13:

kasoo10

31st August 2005, 16:17

You guys are doing a great job. Keep it up.

I am always there for you, if I can help in any way.

z10

31st August 2005, 16:19

Were you even on sn? :13:

sn?

no..but i was regular 'guest' on sn

i only joined after it moved...

Nauman

31st August 2005, 16:33

I was a member at PP on SN but never posted maybe once or twice (didnt like the layout). Then PP moved to this new place in Jan using phpbb, Waheed and Umar had done good job on it but I have always hated phpbb forums so I didnt like it though Ron made it quite bearable. I love the current PP because I designed it :P though I wish everyone would get along.

Rob H

31st August 2005, 16:36

sn?

no..but i was regular 'guest' on sn

i only joined after it moved...
Ah you were a PP lurker on sportnetwork

Bitman

31st August 2005, 16:37

I am always there for you, if I can help in any way.

You can contribute financially! There is a link on the homepage! :D

zushy_786

31st August 2005, 16:37

I was a member at PP on SN but never posted maybe once or twice, didnt like phpbb which PP used on the new independent site either, I love the current PP because I designed it :P though I wish everyone would get along.

Great job on the site btw Nauman.......I like the new PP although I wish some of the old pp features had remained....Nauman everyone does get along :23::23:

Nauman

31st August 2005, 16:40

Great job on the site btw Nauman.......I like the new PP although I wish some of the old pp features had remained....Nauman everyone does get along :23::23:

What features let me know if I can do something about it, Ill be free from next week and we have some plans in the pipeline which we will start implementing.

zushy_786

31st August 2005, 18:48

What features let me know if I can do something about it, Ill be free from next week and we have some plans in the pipeline which we will start implementing.

Thanks Nauman, I'll let you know next week.....Thank you for your hard work....

Saj

31st August 2005, 19:51

Well folks at the end of the day this site belongs to ALL at PakPassion and it is YOUR site.

We make PakPassion what it is and we can ALL continue the success.

We ask for some healthy debate, good quality articles and of course the Suggestions forum is there for your ideas - no idea is a daft idea in my book.

I think this thread is a good opportunity to thank all the guys working with me on the PP team - they are a fantastic bunch of hard working people and I'd also like to thank everyone who posts on the site for their continued support and all the guys who send us e-mails appreciating the work we do.

We have plenty of new ideas and ventures coming up on PakPassion so watch this space and tell all your friends about the site.

Hussain

31st August 2005, 19:55

Well folks at the end of the day this site belongs to ALL at PakPassion and it is YOUR site.

thankyou Saj
i wud soon be selling my share at PP for something not as time consuming :D

Bitman

31st August 2005, 19:56

thankyou Saj
i wud soon be selling my share at PP for something not as time consuming :D

:)))

z10

31st August 2005, 19:57

i would also like to give my appreciation to all the people who have put in the hard work to make this site what it is :19:

Amir

31st August 2005, 21:18

Mercenary

8th December 2006, 19:59

bump

Geordie Ahmed

8th December 2006, 20:07

bump

see post number 36 for my view - the only thing i would change to that post is the 10 to 100 :19:

feather

8th December 2006, 20:27

see post number 36 for my view - the only thing i would change to that post is the 10 to 100 :19:
I totally agree.

b0wld

9th December 2006, 17:33

i dont wanna sound rude or anything... but do u guyz get paid for the efforts u put in pakpassion... in both case (yes or no) who do u feel abt it???

Mercenary

9th December 2006, 18:36

i dont wanna sound rude or anything... but do u guyz get paid for the efforts u put in pakpassion... in both case (yes or no) who do u feel abt it???

Not a penny, in fact when we first moved here we had to dig into our own pockets to keep the place running and then we had to dig again some more when we needed to purchase a dedicated server because we had too much traffic to stay on the virtual server we were on at the time.

To be honest it's quite a thankless task but I view it as a hobby and the effort we all put in seems worthwhile when we see PPers enjoying the place!!

Jimmy two-times

9th December 2006, 18:42

Just a question, what happened with all the thread's and posts of pakpassion from sportsnetwork? were they deleted? is there anyway in which you can view them?

Nauman

9th December 2006, 18:43

see post number 36 for my view - the only thing i would change to that post is the 10 to 100 :19:
:19: :)

Mercenary

9th December 2006, 18:49

Just a question, what happened with all the thread's and posts of pakpassion from sportsnetwork? were they deleted? is there anyway in which you can view them?

They were all posted on the SN software and we couldnt transfer them here without SN's blessing. As far as I know SN have 'hidden' that forum and possibly deleted it.

In other words them threads be gone!! :12:

Easa

10th December 2006, 13:28

I completely share GA's sentiments with regards to this matter :19:

I was also a lurker on SN, a good month before they moved here. When they moved, I forgot about this site for around 8 months, before a friend reintroduced it.

MIG

10th December 2006, 14:39

And this how it really happened.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=16613

:D

Nauman

10th December 2006, 15:28

A great read there MIG, will be expecting another one on our second anivarsary next month.

MIG

9th January 2007, 05:28

An interesting read !