best player not to have played for pak imo it's Taimur Khan

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i wonder who ppl whould consider for this title - mine personally is taimur khan - a complete all rounder in his day - shame azhar got picked ahead of him around 99/00, maybe past his prime now but would still be handy in the one day make up - only 29

[Rudi hater]

Ghaffar Kazmi for me a great allround player, he has past it now, he is around forty but he sill looks around 32. He is very fit plays league cricket was once shortlisted in Imran Khan's days but unfortunately broke his leg and was not considered after that. He is pure class.

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ghafoor - taimur's story annoys me the most - miandad didnt like him so would never consider him even when he was the best all rounder in pak and far superior to azhar - dude dropped faisal iqbal when he was skipper of Pak a team a while back and miandad managed to get taimur out of setup

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i would still have him there in the one day squad for a little bit of know how - age shouldnt matter here - talent is what counts- he is superior to azhar - will be posting bob about him

[Rob H]

WIY are you still going to do fantasy cricket?

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sure am and WILL WIN ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
waheed suggested we begin after vb series - which i agree with- best time to start

[Rob H]

What is the secret?
tell me plz, i am slightly retarded!
I beg you Hanse

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

cmmon bro - i want to win - am sure u have picked a good side - in fact i bet u have used the idea without realising i'm serious - i have done that before!!! so dont worry u will do well

[Rob H]

I got it!
Is it for Afridi to whip Mcgrath? You are right it was right under my nose!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

?

[Rob H]

Look @ my signiture WIY
Wait for it 2 load

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

haha
but how will that help u in fantasy cricket? it dont start till after vb series

[Rob H]

I will pick Mcgrath and Afridi and Afridi will push Mcgrath so hard he will get every wicket for Aus against NZ

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

hahahaha - ingenious but not true anyways u must be careful in selecting your a and b rated players coz there are restrictions

[Rob H]

Katich and Lehmann are bargains
D and C respectively

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

see you are beginning to think about it a little more - must have 4 countries represented

[waquas_uk]

did gary ask u to start this thread

[pakistani pride]

hahahahahaaaa could be...

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

well he didnt

[Awesome Anjum]

Amir Bashir and Sajid Shah

Taimur Khan walks this. Absolute joke his non selection. In this team today he could take the new ball and bat at 3 if the team needed or probably at 6.

[Naveed]

Gary, to be honest I have never seen Taimur play but just looking at his statistics his first class bowling figures are pretty good but his batting averages are somewhat mediocre. Why do you think that he could bat at 3?

[Amjid Javed]

this guys obviously made up out of amits and WIYS imagination...!

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aj - back in 99 this guy should have been a certainty in the pakistan side - complete all rounder - a genuine bowling all rounder - always has been superior to azhar. taimur skippered the pak A team - such a shame he wasnt picked - coz he has a rapport with a lot of pak team - afridi,rana,myk and the rest

[Naveed]

Also I believe that Noddy bhai does not think that Taimur is good enough (I think).

[Geordie Ahmed]

This thread is a bit non sensical imo! how can you say who the best is if they havent played for Pakistan, the domestic game is not a good indicator of how well a player will player!

maybe if you asked the player who most deserved a chance it would be more apt

[Amjid Javed]

This guy was neva that gud and is unheard of. the guy who was rejected and shud have gone to world cup 99 was sajid shah. Tiamurs domestic record is poor in circumstances to say least!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

geordie - selection isnt always 100% - some very good players never get the chance - he is 29 now but in one dayers could be an asset -

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

his domestic record is poor?
what about shoaib malik and others - aint all about doemstic record - guy was a thinking cricketer - who had discipline

[Amjid Javed]

OK, now its time 2 put fantasy storys to bed! time to expose the lala thinking!

Taimur played for pakistan representative sides and failed!

1) commonwelth games in 1998

link -

http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1998/OTHERS+ICC/CG1998/SQUADS/

he failed in all 3 games

2) Super Max Eights 1998

link -

http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1998/OTHERS+ICC/KL-SME/

guys check links out.... ul see the mighty taimur

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amjid - i thought u have said in the past - to base a judgement on the player an extended run is crucial- almost as bad as those ppl who said taufeeq is rubbish after 1 poor series.

[Amjid Javed]

the guy got out to fast bowler nathan astle in one match lol!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

what was the situation in the match?

also what about srt getting done up like a kipper by michael vaughan?

[Amjid Javed]

The guy was just another average player...!

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should have been given a go by pakistan in late nineties

[Abdul Qadir 236]

he would walk into the team now. he has better stats than Malik! But as I say he has a great temperament like Malik which u need more so than talent to succeed at the top.

[Naveed]

The guy has a batting average in first class cricket of 27 and you say that he'd walk onto the team??

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naveed - care to tell me what malik's average was?

[DesiMD]

i wonder who ppl whould consider for this title - mine personally is taimur khan - a complete all rounder in his day - shame azhar got picked ahead of him around 99/00, maybe past his prime now but would still be handy in the one day make up - only 29who is this taimur khan..who is this player...i have never heard of him...other than at these forums

[DesiMD]

ghafoor - taimur's story annoys me the most - miandad didnt like him so would never consider him even when he was the best all rounder in pak and far superior to azhar - dude dropped faisal iqbal when he was skipper of Pak a team a while back and miandad managed to get taimur out of setuphas he played at international level yet...or no....and is he better than razzaq

[DesiMD]

he would walk into the team now. he has better stats than Malik! But as I say he has a great temperament like Malik which u need more so than talent to succeed at the top.y r u comparing who so ever to malik...malik is a batsman of present...in past his figures were quite bad...it took him time to become a batsman

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desi MD - the guy in late 90's was a very good all rounder - (quick late 80's) and batting was good - should have gotten a go at that time

[DesiMD]

desi MD - the guy in late 90's was a very good all rounder - (quick late 80's) and batting was good - should have gotten a go at that timeoh i c ...thanx for info bro

[Naveed]

naveed - care to tell me what malik's average was?

I never compared him with Malik because they are not comparable. Malik is younger and started his career as a lower order off-spinner. I just question the notion that he could walk into the national team given his mediocre statistics.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

TK started as a batsman and then Ramiz Raja told him he could bowl. And he became all rounder.
He has the temperament to play for Pakistan and believe me he is as good a batsman as Wasti who has 2 test hundreds and 36 avg!

[Naveed]

TK started as a batsman and then Ramiz Raja told him he could bowl. And he became all rounder.
He has the temperament to play for Pakistan and believe me he is as good a batsman as Wasti who has 2 test hundreds and 36 avg!

As good as Wasti, ok then bring him on!

[Abdul Qadir 236]

he would not let Pakistan down.
he is a real fighter, looks after himself even in winter always at gym, never smokes or drinks.
doesnt go out after women.
bowls at 135
good orthodox batsman against pace or spin.

[pakistani pride]

Never hear of him until gary joined pakpassion.


the difference between him and malik is that we can invest now in malik in 2 years time he can become a really good batsmen and still will be around 25 !

azhar only played vb cause of injuries !

[Abdul Qadir 236]

TKhan will play in the WC.......just a case of which team I reckon. TK is 29 and should be at his peak.
he has now fully recovered from his back problem.

[Naveed]

TK started as a batsman and then Ramiz Raja told him he could bowl. And he became all rounder.
He has the temperament to play for Pakistan and believe me he is as good a batsman as Wasti who has 2 test hundreds and 36 avg!

SO why didn't Raja ever push for him when Raja was CEO? Gary, what do you know that the rest of the cricketing establishment doesn't?

[octavian]

NEVER heard of this Taimur Khan.excpet from Amits and now WIY. I wonder how people have such great imagination ?

[Officer Barbrady]

Wasti was an ordinary player Amit, being better than him is not saying much. Amjid,even world class players get out to the likes of Astle. There is nothing in that argument.

He seems to have had a decent commonwealth tournament and it is difficult to judge how good he was since most of us have never seen him. Anyhow, he is out of contention...and there is no point arguing over him as of now.