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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:30
A little something i found for all party (Pakistan elections 2013) followers alike... you can check who is standing for whom in which constituency...

http://votermaps.appspot.com/

baalti
4th May 2013, 01:33
http://1-to-n.com/ik/pic.php?name=Nawaz%20Sharif

baalti
4th May 2013, 01:35
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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:38
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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:38
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PTI
4th May 2013, 01:38
Asma Shirazi showing her class

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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:42
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PTI
4th May 2013, 01:44
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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:45
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baalti
4th May 2013, 01:50
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PakistanPaindabad
4th May 2013, 02:19
^JI would have been unnecessary political baggage. But if PTI takes the majority, or close to the majority then they would make an alliance with JI for sure..

lonex
4th May 2013, 02:32
IK has alot of respect for Munawar Hussain. If Qazi would have been alive I guess alliance would have been there. I think Qazi sahab was way better politician then Munawar Hussain.

waqar goraya
4th May 2013, 02:55
I am not happy with some of the PTI candidates in Gujranwala.....Not much activity from them

We do have support for PTI in Gujranwala....but just like everywhere in Pindi/Lahore ,the shopkeepers and traders are inclined towards N league...

saadibaba
4th May 2013, 03:44
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rfUEbF98zgI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I would vote for him (if I could :()

farazaidi
4th May 2013, 03:54
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJXeDw4CcAA1NpQ.jpg

also include

If you want self sustaining economy and jobs for all, vote PTI
if you want loans (which can be written off in future) vot PML-N

spinDoc
4th May 2013, 04:06
Nice documentary on PTI's campaign so far

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very nice

taq12345
4th May 2013, 04:39
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>After observing Imran Khan's Jalsas in KPK, I am convinced to declare that <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PTI">#PTI</a> would be single largest party of the province on 11 May.</p>&mdash; Saleem Safi (@SaleemSafiGeo) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaleemSafiGeo/status/330432185184157696">May 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I think there could be a 'CHANGE' when I hear every 2nd person saying he'll vote <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PTI">#PTI</a>. This trend is very noticeable now in Punjab &amp; KPK.</p>&mdash; Saleem Safi (@SaleemSafiGeo) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaleemSafiGeo/status/330447206056329218">May 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Fake account?

insaftak
4th May 2013, 04:45
PTI and Baalti have totally stolen insaftak's thunder, was expecting him to be a huge presence in these threads but after their arrival he seem to have taken a back seat. :)

Lagta hai mein bhudha ho gaya hoon :P

The Junoonis have taken over.

PTI is coming out with an attack ad exposing PPP and PMLN's NooraKusti in last 5 years according to asad umar.

GujjarSher
4th May 2013, 05:18
asad umer owned salman shehbaz... watch 17:00 onwards

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Is it just me or does Suleiman Shahbaz sound like he doesn't really know Urdu? He spoke English/Urdu mix the whole time. I dont even think he understood what the reporter and Asad Umar were saying at times lol.

Anfield
4th May 2013, 06:09
Lagta hai mein bhudha ho gaya hoon :P

The Junoonis have taken over.

PTI is coming out with an attack ad exposing PPP and PMLN's NooraKusti in last 5 years according to asad umar.

It's already out.

insaftak
4th May 2013, 06:16
^^ Link please :P

Vegitto1
4th May 2013, 06:31
^^ link please :p

+1

zimmz
4th May 2013, 07:15
PPP(P) continues the attack on PMLN while rest of the PPP acting on talkshows as if they are supporting PTI. Muk Muka at best!

http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20130504/Sub_Images/1101833221-1.jpg

Red Devil
4th May 2013, 07:20
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Red Devil
4th May 2013, 07:29
Mohammed Saeed had been waiting all day. Early that morning the 27-year-old bakery worker had cycled from his home on the outskirts of Okara, a rural town in Pakistan's eastern Punjab province, to the scruffy crossroads at its centre. Now, as evening came, the man he had come to see was only 100 metres away, standing on the roof of his campaign bus.

"We want to make a new Pakistan," Imran Khan shouted. "You have to make this new Pakistan for your future." Saeed cheered. "He's right," he said, "We have to make our own future."

Okara was the third of five stops for the cricketer turned politician that day. The pace of campaigning is accelerating, as the general election in the troubled, strategically situated nuclear power draws nearer.

For more than four decades the Pakistan Peoples party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) have alternated in power between periods of military rule. Now Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Pakistan Movement for Justice, offers voters a third option.

Khan's campaign has triggered a wave of enthusiasm, particularly among younger voters. Nearly 35% of the 85 million people registered to take part in the elections are under 30 and nearly 60% under 40. As Khan's campaign convoy wends its way through the towns of central Punjab it is preceded by a swarm of excited young men on motorbikes – as well as pickup trucks full of armed commandos.

"He will win here because he is new and energetic and people are fed up with previous rulers," said Mushtaq Haq, another onlooker in Okara. A stagnant economy, massive power shortages and extremist violence are largely blamed on the PPP, in power at the national level for the past five years.

Khan started the day at the home he built for himself and his family in Islamabad, the capital, before his divorce from Jemima Goldsmith in 2004.

PTI now has more funds than when Khan paid for his own campaigns in the late 1990s. A helicopter flew the candidate to the day's first rally. Then he moved into the bus – actually a spartan portable building mounted on a truck.

At each stop Khan shouted his message: "Until now, no one has changed anything. The parties take turns but have not changed the system. I will transfer power to the common people."

The crowd waved cricket bats, some made of wood, others of cardboard. Many Pakistanis are illiterate so parties are designated by symbols. Khan won the Cricket World Cup for his country in 1992 and retired from the sport a national hero. A senior campaign aide of Nawaz Sharif, the PML president and current frontrunner in the coming polls, dismissed him last week as "a sportsman not a politician".

Khan told the Guardian that such attacks did not bother him. His style of politics, which consciously rejects patronage, tactical alliances and the support of powerful well-known figures with solid "votebanks", threatens the established parties, he said.

"Have you seen the energy? The passion? It's huge. There is so much hope," he said, over a rapid lunch of flatbread and curried mutton in the moving office.

Policies such as forcing the wealthy to pay tax – most currently do not – and making parliamentarians declare all their assets also worried his political opponents, he said, along with his own party's internal democracy.

Khan has also pledged to curb crippling power cuts within months and take money from the budget of Pakistan's powerful military to fund health, education and welfare programmes. Both, analysts say, are extremely ambitious objectives. Khan is convinced he can fulfil his promises.

Once known as a playboy, the 60-year-old has raised eyebrows in the west with a new faith and conservatism. In an autobiography he describes turning to religion, particularly the mystical sufi strand of Islam, after the death of his mother. "One lot call you a fundamentalist; the other a so-called secularist," he said.

Khan has led demonstrations over US drone strikes against Islamists in the west of the country and vehemently opposed Islamabad's decision to allow supplies for international forces in Afghanistan to cross Pakistani territory. Liberals accuse him of being too close to Pakistan's Islamists.

Khan said the roots of extremist groups waging an insurgency against the Pakistani state, "secular elements" and local opponents from bases in the restive tribal areas along the western border lay not in religion but the historic resistance of the Pashtun tribes there to "outsiders".

Such groups, however, are making systematic, and often successful, efforts to kill or maim other campaigning politicians from parties seen as insufficiently devout. "These parties [which are being targeted] were all perceived as pro-war. They all made pro-war statements," said Khan, whose mother was Pashtun.

Few doubt the wave of enthusiasm Khan has inspired. Rallies over the past 18 months have been among the biggest for many years, and in Lahore he has won over everyone from wealthy young professionals to a 24-year-old tea seller in a rough central neighbourhood.

Though Khan speaks of a "tsunami", analysts wonder if popular sentiment can be turned into votes without the experienced, well-funded machines of the major parties – and their sometimes ruthless tactics. "That's been the question for a year or more. No one knows the answer," said Cyril Almeida, a political journalist.

PTI party workers are, privately, unsure. Some talk of winning either "30 or 130" out of a total of 272 directly elected seats. Khan himself says a clear majority is "conceivable" but admits nothing is certain. "As a sportsmen I know the game isn't over until the last ball is bowled," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/03/imran-khan-pakistan-voters

Red Devil
4th May 2013, 07:36
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Bilbo
4th May 2013, 07:53
32731

Badsha
4th May 2013, 07:54
I saw another dream.

I was with Asad Umar who was showing me a new Pakistani made car that all politicians will use after IK is elected. Then one guy came to me and said "Khus is ki gaadi dekhi hai? humein ye kachra de ga" :P

lonex
4th May 2013, 08:01
I am not happy with some of the PTI candidates in Gujranwala.....Not much activity from them

We do have support for PTI in Gujranwala....but just like everywhere in Pindi/Lahore ,the shopkeepers and traders are inclined towards N league...

Don't know much about PTI candidate in Gujranwala, my uncle's son is contesting on PPP MPA seat, which he won in last elections. I thought Baber Lone was contesting from PTI but can't find name in the list. He could have influenced the businessman votes.

Don't know the reality but heard on Hasb-e-Haal that Imran did not supported the guy in Gujranwala who helped him organize grand Jalsa, after OCT tusanami in Lahore.

saadibaba
4th May 2013, 08:39
Lagta hai mein bhudha ho gaya hoon :P

The Junoonis have taken over.

PTI is coming out with an attack ad exposing PPP and PMLN's NooraKusti in last 5 years according to asad umar.

Don't worry insaftak, even though young blood has taken over, for me and other oldtimers on this forum like me, you are still the ultimate PTI fan on this website. :)

waqar_ahmad
4th May 2013, 08:58
^ I agree with that sentiment. No one can replace Insaf.

Although PTI, baatli and raamu are awesome PTI posters!

saadibaba
4th May 2013, 09:05
Not to forget Waqar, the ultimate sarcastic poster, sometimes even he doesn't know if he is being straight or sarcastic. :)

waqar_ahmad
4th May 2013, 09:07
^^ :)) That is actually true. Thanks for the appreciation Saadi :)

Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 09:49
Imran needs to distance himself from jamaat e islami. They're one of the reason why the taliban filth is all over the country

cricguru
4th May 2013, 11:31
List of PLM N Achievements in Last 14 years for Roshan Pakistan.

Will you still waste your vote for Imran ??



**** Awards ******


1. 1. CORRUPTION CASES


Nawaz Sharif and his cronies have always been working to plunder Pakistan’s wealth as their sole agenda. He expanded his business empire by misusing his authority as Chief Minister Punjab and Prime Minister Pakistan. And in order to gain financial benefits, he manipulated laws and changed policies. Likewise, in a bid to avoid accountability, the Nawaz Sharif Government amended “The Ehtasaab Act” and made it effective from “1990” instead of “1985” as proposed in the original text of the “Ehtasaab Act” prepared by the interim government of caretaker Prime Minister (Late) Mairaj Khalid (1996-97). And by bringing this change he cunningly saved his tenure of Chief Minister Punjab (1985-88) from accountability.
Despite all maneuvering following references were filed against the Sharifs:-
Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif and others misused official resources causing a loss to the national exchequer of Rs 620million by developing 1800 acres of land in Raiwind at state expense.

Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif are accused of whitening black money during their first tenure (1990-93) and causing a loss of Rs 180 million to the national exchequer by evading income/wealth tax.
Nawaz Sharif, Saif-ur-Rehman and others reduced import duty from 325% to 125% on import of luxury cars (BMW), causing a huge loss of Rs1.98 billion to the national exchequer.

On the imposition of emergency and freezing of foreign currency accounts, Nawaz Sharif and Saif-ur-Rehman removed 11 billion US dollars from Pakistani Banks illegally. Without the consent of account holders, Foreign Exchange Bearer Certificates (FEBC) accounts were frozen and foreign exchange was misappropriated.
Illegal appointments in Pakistan International Airlines (Nawaz Sharif and Saeed Mehdi).

Abbotabad land purchase scam (Nawaz Sharif and Sardar Mehtab Abbasi).
Availing bank loan for Ittefaq Foundries and Brothers Steel Mills without fulfilling legal requirements (Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif).

Concealment of property in the US (Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif).
Illegal appointments and promotions in Federal Investigation Agency (Nawaz Sharif).
US wheat purchase scam (Nawaz Sharif and Syeda Abida Hussain).
Murree land purchase scam (Nawaz Sharif and Saif-ur-Rehman)
Tax evasion (Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif).
Forging of passports and money laundering (Nawaz Sharif and Ishaq Dar).
Concealment of private helicopter purchase while filing assets’ detail (Nawaz Sharif).
Favoring Kohinoor Energy Co, causing loss of Rs. 450 millions (Nawaz Sharif and Others).
Illegal cash finance facility given to Brothers Sugar Mills (Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif).
Bribe offered to ANP’s Senator Qazi Mohammad Anwer (Nawaz Sharif and Others).
Hudaibiya Paper Mills Reference against Sharif brothers and Ishaq Dar.
Illegally appointing Chairman Central Board of Revenue (Nawaz Sharif)
Whitening of black money by amending laws (Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif).
Causing Rs. 35 billion loss by writing off/rescheduling bank loans (Nawaz Sharif and Ishaq Dar).
Bribing (late) Maulana Sattar Niazi from National Exchequer (Nawaz Sharif and Others).
Plundering Rs. 200 million from Jahez and Baitul Maal funds (Nawaz Sharif & Others)
Opening fictitious foreign currency accounts (Nawaz Sharif and Ishaq Dar).
Making 130 political appointments in federal departments (Nawaz Sharif).
Relaxing export duty and rebate to transport sugar to India (Nawaz Sharif).
Whitening of money through FEBC (Nawaz Sharif).
Wealth Tax evasion (Nawaz Sharif).
Concealment of facts to evade property tax (Nawaz Sharif).
Withdrawal of case against Senator Islamuddin Sheikh (Nawaz Sharif, & Ishaq Dar).

2. FINANCIAL GAINS BY USING HIS AUTHORITY AS PRIME MINISTER
The first tenure of Nawaz Sharif as Prime Minister in the year 1990 saw another reign of loot and plunder. During this period Mian Nawaz Shairf obtained loans amounting to more than Rs.614 billion from Banks through his influence against inadequate guarantees. According to the details of loans obtained by Sharifs include Rs.1556 million for Ittefaq Foundries, Rs. 543 million for Haseeb Waqas Sugar Mills, Rs.455 million for Mehran Ramzan Textile Mills, Rs.373 million for Ramzan Bukhsh Textile Mills, Rs.339 millions for Ch. Sugar Mills, Rs.226 millions for Ittefaq brothers, Rs. 205 million for Sandalbar Textile Mills, Rs.182 million for Hudaibiya Engineering Mills, Rs.153 million for Hamza Board Mills Ltd, Rs.134 million for Hudaibiya paper Mills, Rs.351 Million for Brothers Sugar Mills, Rs.174 million for Brothers Textile Mills, Rs.159 million for Brothers Steel Mills, Rs.623 million for Ramzan Sugar Mills, Rs. 191 million Khalid Siraj Textiles, Rs.313 million for Ittefaq Sugar Mills, Rs.164 million for Ittefaq Textile Mills, and Rs.239 million were obtained for Ittefaq Brothers. Due to the malpractice the national wealth was used for establishing personal empire while the country’s economy was facing disaster. This loan was equivalent to the total internal loan obtained by the government of Pakistan! These so called patriotic politicians ruthlessly plundered the national exchequer and used national wealth for personal financial gains. In addition money laundering worth billions of dollars through illegal means, wheat import scam, awarding motorway’s contract to an internationally black listed company, receiving heavy loans despite of being defaulter, secret businesses in UK (Evidence attached), Sugar mills in Kenya and four flats in the most expensive area of London and huge commissions in privatization of Muslim Commercial Bank (MCB) are also a few “achievements” of Nawaz Sharif and family.


3. THE AUDITOR GENERAL REPORT
The Auditor General Report released in the year 1988-89 reported that Nawaz Sharif, misusing his authority as Chief Minister Punjab, issued directives which resulted into direct malpractice of Rs. 35 billion.
The report said that the Chief Minister Secretariat had been turned into a hub of corrupt practices and Nawaz Sharif used public money like an emperor that resulted into huge fiscal deficit of the province.
The Auditor General Report released in the year 1986-87 said that the then Chief Minister Nawaz Sharif had used Rs. 1200 million for malpractices in only one year.
Nawaz Sharif allotted 3000 precious Lahore Development Authority (LDA) plots among his favourites due to which the province suffered loss of billions of rupees.
Nawaz Sharif was the lead character of the Cooperative and Financial Institutions Scam, which deprived the retired employees, orphans, widows, and poor of their total assets amounting to Rs. 17 billion.
Nawaz Sharif released Rs. 1200 million from his discretionary grant in the year 1985-86 while Rs. 1895 million were released in 1986-87, Rs. 1899 million were used in 1987-88 while another Rs. 1887 million were distributed among his cronies.


4. RELATIONS WITH THE TERRORISTS
Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif and other party leaders practically share and proudly identify commonalities between PML-N and Taliban and they have very close ties and cordial relations with terrorists and banned terrorist outfits. In early 90s Nawaz Sharif received huge sums of money from Osama Bin Laden to overthrow former Prime Minister of Pakistan Shaheed Benazir Bhutto’s Government. Even now PML-N’s cabinet members and spokespersons are commonly seen hanging around with members of those banned outfits, reportedly involved in managing terrorist attacks on thousands of innocent Pakistanis including soldiers, police officials and members of other law enforcement agencies.
Due to compromising attitude of PML-N’s leadership and their mild will to fight against the menace of terrorism the members of law enforcement agencies are completely demoralized. That is one of the reasons that the investigations against terrorists are not carried out in a proper manner and proof against arrested terrorists usually is not available. Due to the incapability of the Punjab Government terrible terrorist attacks took place in the province including suicide attack on Police Training School Bedian Road, blast in Moon Market Lahore, car bomb blast in the Rescue 15 building, car bomb blast in F.I.A building, suicide attack on Munawan Police Training Center, Model Town link road bomb blast, suicide attack on Jamia Naemia, terrorist attack on Ahmedi’s worship places, blasts in Imam Bargahs including Karbla Gammay Shah and suicide bomb blasts in the sacred shrine of Hazrat Data Gunj Buksh along with many others. After these attacks PML-N has morally lost its right of government in Punjab.
Further, it was Shahbaz Sharif, who instead of showing courage and political and moral will to fight against the enemies of Pakistan, in his speech in Jamia Naemia Lahore, begged for mercy from the terrorists. He, in a very disgraceful manner, requested them not to attack Punjab as they are likeminded and standing on the same side. This statement of Shahbaz Sharif reflects his mindset !


5. CONSPIRACIES AGAINST DEMOCRACY
Nawaz Sharif and Co. has always been involved in destabilizing the democratic system by one way or the other and did not even hesitate to take bribes to grab power. Lt. General (R) Naseerullah Babar, the former Interior Minister had disclosed in the National Assembly in 1994, that the ISI had disbursed money to purchase the loyalty of various right wing politicians, including that of Nawaz Sharif, in order to manipulate the 1990 elections, for the Islamic Jamhoori Ittehad (IJI- Pakistan democratic alliance), and bring about the defeat of the PPP. As proof Lt. General (R) Naseerullah Babar, Lt. General (R) Asad Durrani and others have filed affidavits supported by copies of various documents. In Air Marshal Asghar Khan’s human rights petition (HRC 19/96) in the Supreme Court of Pakistan against the former Chief of Army Staff Mirza Aslam Baig and the former Chief of the ISI and a banker concerning the criminal distribution of the people’s money for political purposes. The case is pending adjudication in the Supreme Court of Pakistan for the last 14 years.

1. 6. DECEIT AND LYING
Nawaz Sharif’s politics is based on the philosophy “lie repeatedly till it seems as the truth”. He has based his politics on deceit and lies. Nawaz Sharif and his “chellaz” believe in lying repeatedly and religiously follow their convictions in this regard. They are masters in the art of manipulation and alteration and use their wealth to achieve their goals. One example is enough to expose their hideous character. After conviction in the hijacking case, Nawaz Sharif and his family approached foreign friends who persuaded President Pervez Musharraf to have mercy and forgive them. Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif and family sought pardon and signed agreements including a commitment not to participate in politics for a period of ten years but they kept lying and hid the existence of these agreements from the nation until the head of Saudi Arabian Secret Agency, Prince Miqran Bin Abdul Aziz and Prime Minister of Lebanon Mr. Saad Hariri’s unveiled the existence of these agreements and Ch. Nisar had to admit the existence of these agreements during the press conference of Javed Hashmi. Sharif brothers in return of Pervez Musharraf’s “Ehsaan” (generosity) have not only crossed all limits of hostility but also lied to the nation. Would Nawaz Sharif and his “chellaz” ever tender apology to the Pakistani Nation, for lying to them for so many years?



7. POLICE STATE
Under the horrible times of Shahbaz Sharif’s Government the Punjab province has been virtually converted in to a “Badmaash” (rogue) province. Here police officials get involved in heinous and brutal criminal activities like one in Sialkot. The administration did not take any action against the shameful and atrocious lynching of two young brothers until the footage was telecast on electronic channels. It is believed that only in Gujranwala Division, where a brother of PML (N) MNA was deputed as head of police department, more than two hundred extra judicial killings have taken place. The record shows that in Punjab, police force has been continuously used to harass and insult political rivals. An endless campaign of lodging false FIRs against political opponents has also been initiated. Use of brutal police force and baton-charge has become a routine. Every segment of society including journalists, doctors, teachers, students, nurses, Government employees, semi Government and private institutions and lawyers have faced the brutality of police while protesting for their demands.


8. POOR GOVERNANCE & MALADMINISTRATION
It is a hard fact that poor governance & maladministration is trade mark of Sharif brothers. Shahbaz Sharif is an attention-seeker and likes to show off. For the sake of “cheap publicity” he has started calling himself “Khadam-e-Ala” but miserably failed to meet the challenges of governance and administration. It’s a harsh reality that during his tenure in Punjab all institutions deteriorated conspicuously. In order to achieve their motives, Sharifs always appoint their blue eyed personnel on key posts by completely ignoring merit. Almost all districts of Punjab are being run by grade 19 officers who are incapable hence a basic reason for poor governance. Due to his dictatorial approach Shahbaz Sharif himself heads 12 provincial ministries and he seldom holds cabinet meeting. He takes decisions over ruling, the cabinet. His obstinate behavior is the prime reason for the maladministration in the province. It would be just and appropriate to suggest that Sharifs have failed to establish a democratic spirit in their government and have completely overlooked the norms of democratic political setups.


9. CRIMINAL ASSAULT ON THE SUPREME COURT OF PAKISTAN
In order to consolidate and attain more power, ‘the champion of democracy and independent judiciary’, Nawaz Sharif attacked every individual and institution, he felt could get in the way and challenge his authority. In order to get rid of Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah, who Nawaz Sharif despised, the latter created divisions amongst the judges using the humble services of a former judge, Rafique Tarrar (later President of Pakistan) to make life difficult for the Chief Justice. A group of judges refused to acknowledge CJ Sajjad Ali Shah as the Chief Justice and things got so bad that a number of junior judges made it difficult for him to carry out his duties. Eventually, Sharif ordered his thugs to attack the Supreme Court in order to prevent the Chief Justice from giving a ruling against him.
The police did nothing to stop Sharif’s thugs as they attacked and entered the Supreme Court premises. The judges inside the building barely managed to escape. The thugs, led by Sajjad Naseem and Mushtaq Tahir Kheli, Nawaz Sharif’s political secretaries, entered the court chanting anti-CJ Sajjad slogans and destroyed the Court Room.

1. 10. CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE PRESS AND JOURNALISTS
A number of incidents during 1998-99 indicated a pattern of harassment and intimidation of individual journalists as the government was increasingly becoming intolerant. Imtiaz Alam, a Lahore-based journalist, complains of threats over the telephone and then of his car being set on fire in a mysterious manner the next day. Another Lahore journalist, Mahmud Lodhi, was picked up and held in illegal custody for two days. He was questioned about his involvement with a BBC team filming a documentary on the rise and wealth of the Sharif family. Present Pakistani ambassador in USA Mr. Hussain Haqqani was picked up in a cloak-and-dagger fashion and interrogated at a FIA Center for money embezzlement while he held government office.

The residence of Idrees Bakhtiar, a senior staff reporter of monthly Herald and BBC correspondent in Karachi was raided by CIA police on Nov. 26, 1998. The police harassed the family and also arrested his 28-year old son, Moonis, who was later released. On Feb. 13, 1999, three persons, including Senator Abdul Hayee Baloch and a lady worker from Lahore, were injured when the police baton-charged, used water cannons and threw bricks on a peaceful procession of the Pakistan Awami Ittehad in front of the parliament house in Islamabad. The march, organized by the PAI for the freedom of the press, was led by PAI president Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan (late), the then opposition leader Shaheed Benazir Bhutto and secretary general of the alliance Hamid Nasir Chatta, besides a number of sitting and former PPP MNAs and senators.
The owner of the Frontier Post, Rehmat Shah Afridi, was arrested in Lahore on April 2, 1999, by the Anti-narcotics Force. The Peshawar-based Frontier Post was critical of government policies. Afridi’s arrest was seen by journalists and others as another attempt to gag the Press. On May 8, 1999, Najam Sethi, Editor of The Friday Times, was arrested on the orders of Nawaz Sharif. Police stormed into his house in Lahore and dragged him out of his bed room. After brutal torture and breaking furniture of the house he was shifted to some unknown place. And before leaving the house with Mr. Sethi, they tied his wife Jugnoo’s hands with a rope and locked her up in a dressing room. Later, Nawaz Sharif asked COAS Gen. Musharraf to charge Mr. Sethi under the Pakistan Army Act for being a traitor and give him maximum punishment (maximum punishment is death!).
The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), a press freedom organization, said on June 1, 1999 that it was conducting an investigation into a “hit list” prepared by the Pakistan government that contains 35 prominent journalists of Pakistan. According to reports received by the CPJ, the federal government had decided to establish a special media cell comprising officials from the police, Intelligence Bureau and the Federal Investigation Agency to punish the journalists, who had been writing against the government. Ehtesab Bureau Chairman, Senator Saifur Rehman Khan was to head this cell which would function from Lahore, Islamabad, Karachi and Peshawar with its head office in Islamabad.
According to the CPJ, the journalists were: Irshad Ahmed Haqqani (late), Rehmat Ali Razi, Anjum Rasheed, (writer and anchor person) Suhail Warraich, Sohaib Marghoob and (late) Roman Ehsan (Jang Lahore), M. Ziauddin (Dawn Islamabad), Dr. Maleeha Lodhi, Javed Jaidi, Nusrat Javeed, Mariana Babar and Ansaar Abbassi (The News, Islamabad), Rehana Hakeem and Zahid Hussain (Newsline), Ejaz Haider, Khalid Ahmed, Jugnu Mohsin and Adnan Adil (The Friday Times, Lahore), Mahmood Sham (Jang, Karachi), Rashed Rehman (The Nation, Lahore), Amir Ahmed Khan (Herald, Karachi), Imtiaz Aalam, Beena Sarwar, Shafiq Awan, Kamila Hyat and Amir Mir (The News Lahore), Abbas Athar (Nawa-e-Waqt, Lahore), Kamran Khan and Shehzad Amjad (The News Karachi), Azam Khalil (Pulse), Mohammad Malik (Tribune), Imtiaz Ahmed (The Frontier Post, Peshawar), Ilyas Chaudhry (Jang Rawalpindi), Naveed Meraj (The Frontier Post, Islamabad) and Syed Talat Hussain (The Nation, Islamabad).
The Government of Nawaz Sharif started a campaign against the Jang group in July 1998 when it refused to sack a number of journalists critical of Government policies. The government objected to the Jang group newspapers’ reporting about the law and order situation in the country and put a ban on advertisement. On August 13, a report was published about non-payment of Rs. 700 million to farmers by the sugar mills owned by the Nawaz Sharif family. Three days later, the government sent notices to Jang for non payment of taxes and the case was shifted to the Ehtesab cell. On September 27, 1998, the Government asked the Jang group not to publish a report of ‘The Observer London’ that Nawaz Sharif had siphoned off millions of rupees. The report was not published by the Jang but it was published by its sister English newspaper The News. On November 5, bank accounts of the Jang group were frozen and FIA raided the Jang and the News offices in Rawalpindi and customs authorities stopped delivery of newsprint to the Jang.
On Jan 28 1999, a sedition case was registered against Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman for publishing an advertisement of Muttahida’s Khidmat-e-Khalq Foundation on January 1, which according to the police, was aimed at inciting people against the state.
Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman revealed that Senator Saif-ur-Rehman asked him to sack a number of Jang employees who should be replaced in consultation with the Government. He released to the press audio-tapes of conversation with Saif-ur-Rehman on this issue. Saif-ur-Rehman accused Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman for evading tax and customs duty to the tune of Rs. 2.6 billion.
The hostility of Sharifs towards media is also evident from the fact that in the parliamentary history of Pakistan for the first time a resolution, condemning the media, was tabled (by a group of MPAs belonging to Nawaz League) and passed in the Punjab Assembly.

1. 11. DESTABILIZATION OF INSTITUTIONS

There is probably no institution in Pakistan which Nawaz Sharif did not aggressively confront in order to make them comply with his wishes. Besides picking a fight with the President, the Judiciary and the restricted/limited media of that time, Sharif also decided to have a confrontation with the army, the only viable institution left in Pakistan. Due to his hostile and dumb approach in Nawaz Sharif’s first term as prime minister, he fell out with three successive army chiefs: General Mirza Aslam Beg, General Asif Nawaz and General Abdul Waheed Kakar. During his second tenure, he fell out with two other Generals, General Karamat and later with General Pervez Musharraf. General Karamat became the first Chief of Army Staff in the history of Pakistan to have been prematurely retired!
One by one all challenges and potential obstacles to his dictatorial mindset were removed from his way by Nawaz Sharif. Ghulam Ishaq Khan, Farooq Leghari, Sajjad Ali Shah, and General Jehangir Karamat were all removed from the scene by Nawaz Sharif.


1. 12. Ill-CONSIDERED ECONOMIC DECISIONS
Nawaz Sharif’s ill-considered economic decisions cost Pakistan dearly! But the Sharif family’s personal business empire grew exponentially through questionable means.
Nawaz Sharif, during his tenure as Chief Minister Punjab from 1988-90, deprived the provincial departments of Rs. 15.35 billion. In addition in 1997-99 he caused huge loss amounting in 11 billion US dollars to private account holders by freezing foreign currency accounts contrary to the law and constitution wherein he and his cronies managed to get away with huge sums even after the freeze. Billions of dollars were removed from the banks without the permission/consent of the account holders but the accounts of common Pakistanis were withheld.
In last two and half years, Shahbaz Sharif wasted more than 40 billion rupees in “Sasti Roti” and other subsidized food schemes that had been initiated to earn cheap popularity and to benefit their political supporters. Admittedly these funds have been distributed amongst their own supporters without any audit just to gain political mileage. A huge chunk of these funds has been disbursed by the ghost “Tandurs” (burners) owners. Inflation and un-employment is rocketing day by day due to the ill-conceived decisions of the provincial government. This is one of the reasons that Punjab could not help flood victims at the time because they had utilized their funds in senseless politically motivated schemes and now have an overdraft amounting Rs. 80 billion.


13. SELLING KASHMIR CAUSE TO VAJPAYEE IN 1999 AND HUMILATING ARMED FORCES IN USA, DURING KARGIL
The so called son of soil Nawaz Sharif virtually sold Kashmir in 1999 during Indian PM’s visit to Lahore. Nawaz Sharif deleted the word Kashmir from the joint declaration to please Indian counterpart. By crossing all the limits of treachery and falsehood Nawaz Sharif and his cronies claim that Pakistan armed forces lost the Kargil war. In fact, due to the decisions of Nawaz Sharif, Pakistan lost this war in the drawing room of the American President after wining it in the battlefield.


1. 14. ATOMIC EXPLOSIONS
It is a proven fact that in 1998 Nawaz Sharif was double-minded about the atomic explosions. While the nation waited breathlessly for a befitting reply to India, Nawaz Sharif was busy in negotiating economic packages with US Government. Gohar Ayub Khan, who was foreign minister at that time, has also corroborated this fact in his book.

Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 12:38
Who's funding Pti's election campaign? Some serious money being spent!

venomousx
4th May 2013, 13:18
Who's funding Pti's election campaign? Some serious money being spent!

Kamran Akmal is. Problem? :jf

spinDoc
4th May 2013, 13:19
Who's funding Pti's election campaign? Some serious money being spent!

Donations for ppl.
i donated $500 last wk, a friend donated $1000, there are a lot of oversea pakistanis donating money to PTI .

$100,000 is 1 crore, i am sure PTI is collecting 1 crore from abroad every wk if not more.

ppl are also buying his signed book for $500 and Signed bat for $1500.

one minute tv ad cost between $200-300

I request the PPers living abroad to donate please and also ask ur faimly and friends to donate ,even 20-30 dollors/pounds.You can go to insaf.pk website and donate there.

Bilbo
4th May 2013, 13:21
32733

Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 13:25
Kamran Akmal is. Problem? :jf

kamran himself receives plenty of donations. yeh keya muk mukka hai? :moyo

baalti
4th May 2013, 13:52
happy to report that i converted 3 more votes in favor of PTI.... mein khud toh nahin dei paoon ga vote, lekin mein make sure kar raha hoon ke meray aik vote ke badlay i donate enough + convert enough... so far my number is around 120 odd friends/relatives etc... (strangers i dont know how many might have converted for tabdeeli, but o well)...

thanks to the guys appreciating my little effort... (i am just collecting material from here and there and centralizing it here, making it a mini hub for PTI supporters, like a one stop shop)...

if i were to be in Pak right now, you guessed it I would have been a solid TZ for PTI... par mein apni is capacity mein reh ke bhi, i think, enough damage dei raha hoon

from my observations (and i am following the elections like a mad scientist), IK is clearly whipping some noora butt... ppp abandoned the battle ground... the ppp voters are 50% in favor of PTI, 10% took a bitter pill and are in favor of N, 5% or so went to others and 35% still thinks BHUTTO ZINDA HAI... and of these 35% a good 10-15% consider PTI/IK to be a good party, and are on the border....

IK has managed to break away 15% of N league votes comfortably... and a good 20% of them are still sitting on the border or have good things to say about PTI/IK but which way the camel tilts in the end we will know on the 11th...

THE BAKWAS ANALOGY OF "IK KO VOTE DEI KAR ZAYA KARNAY WALI BAAT HAI" HAS BEEN BURRIED,,, THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS GONE OUT OF THE WINDOW, AND THAT IS HURTING THE N GROUP ALOT...

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:01
Some ground realities for those who always come in and ask for "humain ground realities do, yeh non sense nahin"

آجکل میاں صاحب جس علاقے میں انتخابی مہم جلسے سے خطاب کرنے جاتے ہیں وہاں کے مقامی اُمیدوار سے پوچھتے ہیں کہ یہاں لوگ کیا سُن کر خوش ہونگے۔ وہ بتاتا ہے کہ لوگوں کو اِس شہر میں یونیورسٹی کا شوق ستاتا ہے، اِس گاؤں کے لوگ ضلع بنوانے کے خوہشمند ہیں۔ میاں صاحب بغیر آؤ تاؤ دیکھے جھٹ سے وہ اعلان فرما دیتے ہیں۔ نجانے کِتنے گلی محلوں کو ضلع اور تحسیل بنا چُکے اور کِتنوں کی شامت باقی ہے۔ ابھی گُذشتہ دِنوں مانسہرہ میں ایک عالم فراموشی میں ائیرپوٹ بنانے کا اعلان فرما ڈالا، اُس سے پہلے مردان میں بُلٹ ٹرین دوڑا آئے تھے۔ یہی حالت چھوٹے نورے کی بھی ہے۔ اُن پر میڈیکل کالجز بنانے کا خبط سوار ہے ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ لگ بھگ اپنے سولہ سترہ جلسوں میں پچیس تیس میڈیکل کالجوں کا اعلان فرما چُکے ہیں۔ مریم نواز شریف بھی اِیسی درفنطنیاں چھوڑنے میں اپنے بزرگوں کو بھی پیچھے چھوڑ کر بھاگی جا رہی ہیں۔ (بھاگنا بھی کئی طرح کا ہوتا ہے آپ مریم کا نام سُنتے ہی ایک ہی طرف بھاگ پڑتے ہو)۔

خبطی میاں شور باز کی خواب فروشی اِس سطح پر پہنچ چُکی کہ ایک میڈیکل کالج کا اعلان شیخوپورہ میں کیا تو وہی رٹی رٹائی تقریر میڈیکل کالج کے وعدے سمیت خانقاہ ڈوگراں کے جلسے میں دہرا آئے جو شیخوپورہ سے چند میل کے فاصلے پر ایک قصباتی سا شہر ہے۔ احسن اقبال کو ابرارالحق نے نارووال میں گھیر رکھا ہے ورنہ وہی بتا دیتا کہ میاں صاحب اب تک آپ کوئی ستر میڈیکل کالجز، پچاس یونیورسٹیاں، دو درجن ائیر پورٹس اور نصف درجن سی پورٹس کا اعلان صِرف پنجاب میں کر چُکے ہیں حالانکہ سی پوٹس سے پہلے سمندر بھی بنوانا پڑتا ہے جو نہر سے کافی بڑا ہوتا ہے بلکہ دریا سے بھی وڈا۔ احس رشید کے بعد لے دے کے پرویز رشید بچتا تھا لیکن وہ موُا ہر جلسے میں کُرسیاں ہی گنتا رہتا ہے حالانکہ اُسے میاں صاحب کے کالجز، یونیورسٹیاں اور ائیرپورٹس وغیرہ گننے کا زیادہ ثواب مِلے گا۔

اگر کوئی شخص جِس نے پاکستان کبھی دیکھا نہ سُنا ہو وہ اگر اِن کی تقاریر کی آڈیو سُن لے تو پہلے تو سمجھے گا کہ یہ دونوں بھائی کِسی چھوٹے سے شہر کی میئر شپ کے اُمیدوار ہیں جو سڑکیں اور نالیاں بناتے پھِر رہے ہیں دوسرا خیال یہ آئے گا کہ ان حضرات نے اپنے گُزشتہ ادوار میں پرائمری اور سکینڈری ایجوکیشن پر جنگی بنیادوں پر کام کیا ہے لِہٰذا اب مُلک بھر میں تعلیم یافتہ نوجوانوں کی بہتات ہے چنانچہ اعلیٰ تعلیم از حد ضروری ہے سو آئیندہ مدت مکالجز اور یونورسٹیاں بنانے کے مشن پر ہیں ڈتے ہیں۔
کراچی سے فاٹا تک راوی چین ہی چین لِکھتا ہے، لوگ مچھروں سے مرتے ہیں نہ بچے خسرے سے، کھانسی کے سیرپ پیتے ہی مریض کی کھانسی ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کیلئے اُسکے سینے میں دفن ہو جاتی ہے، کارڈیالوجی سنٹر سے مفت دوائیں لینے والےحکومت کا احسان اپنی جان نچھاور کر کے اُتارتے ہیں، پولیس ایسی مستعد کے ڈر سے چوروں نے ایوان صدر، چیف و پرائم منسٹر ہاؤسز میں پنا لے رکھی ہے۔ عدل و انصاف کے ڈر سے قاتل جائے واردات پر کبھی اپنا نام پتا چھوڑ کر نہیں جاتے، ہمیشہ نامعلوُم ہی رہتے ہیں ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔

لگتا ہے اِن خبیثوں کے نوحے لِکھتے لِکھتے اُنگلیوں کی پوروں سے ماس اُدھڑ جائے گا لیکن شیطان کی آنت سے طویل تر ان کی خباثتیں ختم نہیں ہونگی۔ یہ نظام ہمارے گاؤں محلے کی سڑکوں کی طرح ہے جو ہر چار سال بعد ٹوٹ جاتا ہے تاکہ پانچویں سال الیکشن میں اُس کی تعمیر و مرمت پر قومی الیکشن لڑا جا سکے۔

نورا خاندان جِتنے وعدے کر چُکا ہے اِس سے یہ یقین پُختہ ہوتا ہے کہ وہ الیکشن نہیں جیت سکتے ورنہ وہ وعدے کبھی نہ کرتے جِن کی تکمیل کو ورلڈ بینک تھوڑا اور عُمرِ نوح چھوٹی ہے۔

Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 14:10
nawaz sharif awaam ko karachi seh peshawar tak ek $10 billion ki bullet train denge :)))

some ******* will even believe him.

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:13
nawaz sharif awaam ko karachi seh peshawar tak ek $10 billion ki bullet train denge :)))

some ******* will even believe him.

believe? yeh bongi awam ticketain khareednay keh liye apna khoon baichnay nikal bhi chuki hai... thats the only way toh get tickets for BULLET trains :manzoor

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:13
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Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 14:15
imran khan photographer hein :ik

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:21
low on energy? i bring you some... :) ... smq in sindh

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baalti
4th May 2013, 14:23
imran khan photographer hein :ik

muna kaafi tez nazar hai tumhaari.... :shafiq

true caption for that pic should have been:

NS: yaar AZ bilawal ko urdu toh aati nahin?...
AZ: yaar NS par is qaum ko bhi toh aqal aati nahin...

Strike!
4th May 2013, 14:26
Unfortunately a lot of people will buy into Nawaz's promises of bullet trains. Very unfortunate.

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:26
epic trolling by PPPP

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spinDoc
4th May 2013, 14:34
Answer to bullet train

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJaNU7cCEAE1h5R.jpg

baalti
4th May 2013, 14:43
Another SAD moment...

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baalti
4th May 2013, 15:14
Swabi Jalsa

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baalti
4th May 2013, 15:17
Bunair Jalsa...

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baalti
4th May 2013, 15:32
http://uwpics.urduwire.com/images_photos/photos/promise54075586_2013424183036.jpg

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LethalSami
4th May 2013, 15:40
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baalti
4th May 2013, 15:44
IK VS NS DEBATE / Munaazra (20 min mark)... lolz

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baalti
4th May 2013, 16:11
Charsada Jalsa

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baalti
4th May 2013, 16:13
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Waseem
4th May 2013, 16:25
Tsunami in Charsadda
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baalti
4th May 2013, 16:32
Yesterday I was thinking that how can poll rigging be prevented... we certainly dont have any computerized system.. ppl go in stamp the ballot paper and drop it in a box... now after that, fake votes can be added, or ballots can be falsely claimed towards a particular party... why dont they do this... lets say on election day, in the camp, have a representative of ea party (or from PTI atleast for our sakes) sit down and tick away a number for every voter that casts a vote... (just like scoring in a cricket game, keep ticking off the numbers for each vote given in person)... so say if i am sitting in the camp and i see that 10000 ppl came in to vote in the particular camp... obviously when they tally up the votes and divide between the parties the numbers should add up to 10000 +/- 15-20 votes... this way parties wont be able to cast votes of deceased ppl, or fake voting... and we will get a true picture of what the results were...

baalti
4th May 2013, 16:36
Tsunami in Charsadda
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i have noticed this in all the N vs PTI jalsa's.... (true for easily 80% of the jalsa's)...

PTI - ppl are mashed up... litterally on top of each other...a guy from the back of the pack will find it impossible to get to the front, coz its jam packed...

N - ppl are scattered and spaced out, you could easily run to the front (maybe the odd bump)...

Waseem
4th May 2013, 16:36
Mardan Tsunami (AWESOME STUFF!!)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393082_10151454314974527_1115951664_n.jpg

I think there is a confusion between Mardan and Charsada but massive wherever it is.

Waseem
4th May 2013, 16:41
i have noticed this in all the N vs PTI jalsa's.... (true for easily 80% of the jalsa's)...

PTI - ppl are mashed up... litterally on top of each other...a guy from the back of the pack will find it impossible to get to the front, coz its jam packed...

N - ppl are scattered and spaced out, you could easily run to the front (maybe the odd bump)...

Definitely and the passion is very different as well. Some PMLN jalsas are dead and others are OK whereas PTI jalsas are full of energey even if they are not massive.

Waseem
4th May 2013, 17:10
Nawaz Sharif walked away from interview (Ikhtilaaf) when host Wajahat rejected to show questionnaire in advance

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942631_10201095359852394_446512495_n.jpg

taq12345
4th May 2013, 17:22
http://www.geotauaisay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Hassan1.gif

Black Zero
4th May 2013, 17:25
Yesterday I was thinking that how can poll rigging be prevented... we certainly dont have any computerized system.. ppl go in stamp the ballot paper and drop it in a box... now after that, fake votes can be added, or ballots can be falsely claimed towards a particular party... why dont they do this... lets say on election day, in the camp, have a representative of ea party (or from PTI atleast for our sakes) sit down and tick away a number for every voter that casts a vote... (just like scoring in a cricket game, keep ticking off the numbers for each vote given in person)... so say if i am sitting in the camp and i see that 10000 ppl came in to vote in the particular camp... obviously when they tally up the votes and divide between the parties the numbers should add up to 10000 +/- 15-20 votes... this way parties wont be able to cast votes of deceased ppl, or fake voting... and we will get a true picture of what the results were...

FYI, they already do this

Problem is...fake voters vs fake votes

taq12345
4th May 2013, 17:43
Good piece by Ayaz Amir


Ayaz Amir
Friday, May 03, 2013
From Print Edition


Glamorising experience, misunderstanding history


"I see that you haven’t changed a bit in these last four years and more, captain," said Nikolay Vsevolodovich... “It seems in fact as though the second half of a man’s life is usually made up of nothing but the habits he has accumulated in the first half.” Dostoyevsky The Possessed

Most election rhetoric is stupid. But this election season it is dumber than usual.

Take Nawaz Sharif going on and about maturity and experience. His way of saying he is the elder statesman who has seen it all, and Imran Khan the greenhorn who knows nothing. Elect a mature government, he exhorts the crowds...muddling the history of Pakistan in the process.

In the Pakistani context experience is a handicap not an advantage. Gen Pervez Musharraf has experience on his side: eight and a half years at the helm. If that’s what it takes, why don’t we bring him back?

Pakistan is stuck in a hole. Who has brought it to this pass, greenhorns or grandmasters of experience? Nawaz Sharif, twice prime minister and not much to show for it, is saying, hand power back to the yo-yos. It is almost as if Manmohan Singh next door were to present himself as a symbol of change. The laughter this would evoke would echo across the mountains.

Imran is no innocent either. Didn’t he campaign for Musharraf’s referendum? Not quite his finest hour. True, he has bent over backwards apologising for it, which is more than can be said about other political riders, saying sorry not a prime Pakistani virtue. All the same, he did make a boo-boo of himself.

And in his October 30 jalsa – the day the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was reborn – he came onstage and prostrated himself on his prayer mat in public, an ostentatious display we could have been spared. Mercifully, there’s been no repeat performance. So one lives and learns.

Zardari’s experience in high finance, not easy to beat. Offshore companies, commissions on international deals, money parked in Swiss bank accounts, property here, there and everywhere...our man from Nawabshah having come a long way. If experience is the touchstone Nawaz Sharif makes it out to be, Zardari should be president for five more years, no questions asked.

Sharif could do worse than look at his own record. At the first Kargil briefing from the army brass in April 1999, he could barely understand the implications of the stunt Musharraf and his favourite generals had pulled: taking the nation to the brink of war. But the sandwiches served were good and he said so. End of meeting. Putting Musharraf on the mat? The idea crossed no one’s mind.

No civilian government could have asked for a more ambition-free army chief than Gen Jahangir Karamat – urbane, well-read and decent. But Sharif, riding high on his ‘heavy mandate’ (two-thirds majority in parliament), was flexing his muscles and got rid of him.

This was little short of tempting fate, for who should step into Karamat’s shoes? The corps commander Mangla, one Gen Pervez Musharraf, sailing over the heads of two other generals, including Ali Quli Khan, who whether more deserving or not certainly did not have Musharraf’s brashness. The rest is history.

The PML-N’s Mr Bean (Chaudhry Nisar), who’s always had a talent for intrigue, had a hand in this affair. People who try to be too clever, there is no knowing what they end up doing. Musharraf returned the favour, Mr Bean’s confinement after the coup in his spread-out house in Faizabad mild and lenient.

I find the following hard to resist. When fellow-Chakwali, Lt Gen Abdul Qayyum, was joining the PML-N, he said before the cameras that this was how he understood the initials MNS: not, perish the thought, just Muhammad Nawaz Sharif but M for Motorway, N for nuclear power, S for the politics of sharafat (decency). The look of near-ecstasy on Nawaz Sharif’s face as he heard this...brings a smile to my lips every time I recall it.

In the PML-N (ah, does this sound like more sour grapes?) buttering, at times raised to an art form, is a necessary adjunct for getting on. But even by those stellar standards I thought the general’s performance was smart.

Benazir Bhutto blew her two chances as prime minister. True, the army was breathing down her neck, and the second time round Leghari, her hand-picked president, did a Brutus on her. But she was also the author of many of her misfortunes. Some people can’t resist a fair ankle, others who find it hard to resist that last one for the road, or the one after that for the ditch. Zardari could never resist a deal, any deal, as long as there was something in it. As for Nawaz Sharif, he blew his ‘heavy mandate’ more thoroughly than Taliban bombers could have done.

Do we raise such experience on a pedestal and worship it? This is experience best forgotten. During his first term as prime minister, Sharif had fallen into the habit of getting into his helicopter every other day to fly off to a remote village to condole with – wait for this – rape victims. There with a long face he would sit, expressing sympathy, handing out an envelope of cash, vowing retribution, the whole thing elaborately shown on state television the same evening (there were no other channels then). The nuts and bolts of governance bored him. These photo ops he loved. They made for great theatre.

This is the kind of idiocy we have to put up with in this country where leaders are more illiterate than the led. Would, as governor Punjab, Nawab Amir Muhammad have gone for such pantomimes? He would have put the fear of God in the entire police force instead of making an *** of himself and his government.

Sharif’s second term as prime minister was spent fighting real or imaginary enemies – President Leghari, Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah, army chief Karamat – or inspecting the Lahore-Islamabad Motorway. No kidding: just as he had taken to visiting rape victims previously, he now took to visiting the Motorway...to the exclusion of everything else. And before he knew it, Musharraf’s coup had crept up on him.

The PPP and the PML-N don’t realise it, and of course you won’t catch them admitting it, but in the long-run Musharraf proved a godsend to both parties because discredited as they had become by then, they received a shot in the arm by turning, almost overnight, from administrative disasters into democracy champions. By 2008 both parties were ready to stage a comeback which they did. Instead of reviling Musharraf they should in secret be thanking him.

Sharif now thinks he is on the cusp of another comeback. Stranger things have happened, so who can say for sure this can’t happen? I won’t pretend to be a card reader or an amateur pollster. But whatever the outcome of this contest, let’s just hope we can push past experience to one side and chart a better future.

Tailpiece One: Barring Musharraf from contesting elections for life, their stern lordships of the Peshawar High Court thus opine: “We are of the considered view that a person who has got not a little respect for whole of the constitution how he will pass through narrow and small compass of Articles 62 and 63.” Would some kind-hearted soul render this into language that mere mortals can understand?

Two: What can persuade Gen Kayani to stop giving sermons on democracy? He can never leave Islam alone, why must he exhort the nation about democratic values? It’s not his office to do so. Look at the ANP, the MQM and the PPP, braving terrorist attacks and yet remaining committed to the election process. That’s democracy at work. It’s also the resilience of the Pakistani nation on display.

Three: Imran Khan says the Taliban did not kill Benazir Bhutto. He’s right, Martians did.

Badsha
4th May 2013, 17:46
Jalsa in my constituency. NA 5 Nowshera.


Crowd is Noora-ish (space between the speaker and crowd.

baalti
4th May 2013, 17:52
FYI, they already do this

Problem is...fake voters vs fake votes


par yaar yeh pti walay fake votes kyon daaltay hain... o wait... hum anaari toh pehli baar elections mein kharay ho rahay hain :usman

baalti
4th May 2013, 17:53
Jalsa in my constituency. NA 5 Nowshera.


Crowd is Noora-ish (space between the speaker and crowd.

to that i point to your avatar... :manzoor

waqar goraya
4th May 2013, 17:55
From tomorrow the last powerplay of campaign starts in Punjab.....:)

taq12345
4th May 2013, 17:56
Nowshera

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/58178_10151454353524527_2075074923_n.jpg

Badsha
4th May 2013, 18:01
I think the camera angles in Nowshera were poor.

Anyway, PTI will get Noweshera. We're quite strong there

baalti
4th May 2013, 18:04
Lo ji kar loh baat...

Caretaker Govt ki latest ahemkaana aur status quo ke liye namak halali statement...

NO ARMY OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WILL BE ALLOWED INSIDE POLLING STATIONS...

navi kuti vi choraan naal rali hoi eh....

Black Zero
4th May 2013, 18:04
par yaar yeh pti walay fake votes kyon daaltay hain... o wait... hum anaari toh pehli baar elections mein kharay ho rahay hain :usman

- Voters list are pre-loaded with fake voters
- Fake cards + 100 fake voters
- Fake voters visit several voting booths
and so many other several ways to hack the system.

Black Zero
4th May 2013, 18:07
Good piece by Ayaz Amir


only last two points...
(regarding army and IK)

Otherwise he was justifying (shamelessly) sacking of four democratically elected govts.
Really pathetic!

baalti
4th May 2013, 18:08
kisi ko patloons seeni aati hain yahan? PPP aur N league mein kaafi silwai ki zaroorat par rahi hai... (hint dhobi saath le jana, dhulwai ki bhi zaroorat paray shayad, lolz)...

baalti
4th May 2013, 18:11
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t3iHHVI0FgM/UYT5x7fiQrI/AAAAAAAABXM/mkXJdgN1eA8/s1600/page-1.jpg

rest of the parts i am gona post as links (it will occupy too much of a space)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D0mcniZ8qj8/UYT6CyasvKI/AAAAAAAABXU/3aRYTSUEA2U/s1600/page-2.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_6WuPlZKj_8/UYT6EBa27MI/AAAAAAAABXc/mh5R6Sj16J4/s1600/page-3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iU3yhSCoVuU/UYT6HCo38wI/AAAAAAAABXk/6lrphnFeDhM/s1600/page-4.jpg

PTI
4th May 2013, 18:13
^ I agree with that sentiment. No one can replace Insaf.

Although PTI, baatli and raamu are awesome PTI posters!

Thanks for appreciation :)
I was a lurker on this forum and yes you are right Insaftak is the one who started promoting PTI on this forum.He is captain of the PTI member team on pakpassion.

PTI
4th May 2013, 18:17
happy to report that i converted 3 more votes in favor of PTI.... mein khud toh nahin dei paoon ga vote, lekin mein make sure kar raha hoon ke meray aik vote ke badlay i donate enough + convert enough... so far my number is around 120 odd friends/relatives etc... (strangers i dont know how many might have converted for tabdeeli, but o well)...

thanks to the guys appreciating my little effort... (i am just collecting material from here and there and centralizing it here, making it a mini hub for PTI supporters, like a one stop shop)...

if i were to be in Pak right now, you guessed it I would have been a solid TZ for PTI... par mein apni is capacity mein reh ke bhi, i think, enough damage dei raha hoon

from my observations (and i am following the elections like a mad scientist), IK is clearly whipping some noora butt... ppp abandoned the battle ground... the ppp voters are 50% in favor of PTI, 10% took a bitter pill and are in favor of N, 5% or so went to others and 35% still thinks BHUTTO ZINDA HAI... and of these 35% a good 10-15% consider PTI/IK to be a good party, and are on the border....

IK has managed to break away 15% of N league votes comfortably... and a good 20% of them are still sitting on the border or have good things to say about PTI/IK but which way the camel tilts in the end we will know on the 11th...

THE BAKWAS ANALOGY OF "IK KO VOTE DEI KAR ZAYA KARNAY WALI BAAT HAI" HAS BEEN BURRIED,,, THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS GONE OUT OF THE WINDOW, AND THAT IS HURTING THE N GROUP ALOT...
WOW well done..You are diong a great effort for Naya Pakistan InshaALLAH.
I can understand your feeling.Being out of pak and unable to vote I am also trying to convince friends etc to vote for PTI.

Down2Earth
4th May 2013, 18:28
Thanks for appreciation :)
I was a lurker on this forum and yes you are right Insaftak is the one who started promoting PTI on this forum.He is captain of the PTI member team on pakpassion.

We need to hold internal elections here, you lot can vote for your captain :ik we don't need any self appointed captains here :zardari

baalti
4th May 2013, 18:44
^^^ humara kuptaan aik hi hai SIR IK... aur hum us ke karkun hain...us keh vision ki chahtri ke neechay hum sabh aik hain aur mil ke Pakistan ko sanwarien gey, inshallah :)

@PTI: bara tough hai trying to convince a N supporter to see the reality... but you gotta be humble, have your points and counter points, and persistent... eventually 80% of times you are able to show them the light at the end of the tunnel...

one of my uncle was so Noora heavy about Metro and Bridges/Roads... I am like dude, your village has no water, no road, no electricity, how are those things going to benefit you and this village as a whole? they do these schemes every 2-3 yrs at pivotal times to fool the general public, and that too in main hubs only (mainly lahore) at the rate they are going its gona take a couple of centuries to get to your village if they do... tabh app inh developments ko apni aram gah sey zaroor enjoy karna ji... idhar Pakistan us building ki tarah hai jis ki buniyadain kharab aur larkhara rahi hain aur yeh kisi bhi waqt collapse ho sakti hai... aur N app ko keh rahi hai keh hum 36th floor ko aisa sajaien gey, is mein aisi features lagain gey keh kya bataien... aur imran khan keh raha hai, pehlay hum buniyaadien theek karain gey ta keh building hi neechay na dhair ho jaye, phir jaa keh baad mein sajaien gey bhi... and the guy goes "oooh"....

Waseem
4th May 2013, 19:01
Thanks for appreciation :)
I was a lurker on this forum and yes you are right Insaftak is the one who started promoting PTI on this forum.He is captain of the PTI member team on pakpassion.

Definitely captain insaftak, he was supporting Imran even when i was busy supporting Musharaff :)

Waseem
4th May 2013, 19:07
^^^ humara kuptaan aik hi hai SIR IK... aur hum us ke karkun hain...us keh vision ki chahtri ke neechay hum sabh aik hain aur mil ke Pakistan ko sanwarien gey, inshallah :)

@PTI: bara tough hai trying to convince a N supporter to see the reality... but you gotta be humble, have your points and counter points, and persistent... eventually 80% of times you are able to show them the light at the end of the tunnel...

one of my uncle was so Noora heavy about Metro and Bridges/Roads... I am like dude, your village has no water, no road, no electricity, how are those things going to benefit you and this village as a whole? they do these schemes every 2-3 yrs at pivotal times to fool the general public, and that too in main hubs only (mainly lahore) at the rate they are going its gona take a couple of centuries to get to your village if they do... tabh app inh developments ko apni aram gah sey zaroor enjoy karna ji... idhar Pakistan us building ki tarah hai jis ki buniyadain kharab aur larkhara rahi hain aur yeh kisi bhi waqt collapse ho sakti hai... aur N app ko keh rahi hai keh hum 36th floor ko aisa sajaien gey, is mein aisi features lagain gey keh kya bataien... aur imran khan keh raha hai, pehlay hum buniyaadien theek karain gey ta keh building hi neechay na dhair ho jaye, phir jaa keh baad mein sajaien gey bhi... and the guy goes "oooh"....

Tell me about it, i tried to convert my very pro PMLN mamu who had all sorts of propaganda stories against Imran. I gave up in the end because the argument was going nowhere. Still managed to convince a few people so not all bad on my side.

baalti
4th May 2013, 19:12
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PTI
4th May 2013, 19:19
I need Help.There is one video where imran khan is saying that in Jalsa,
Naat will make people bore.
One Noora send it my brother who was certain to vote for PTI but now he is in doubt.
How to counter this situation?

cricguru
4th May 2013, 19:29
I need Help.There is one video where imran khan is saying that in Jalsa,
Naat will make people bore.
One Noora send it my brother who was certain to vote for PTI but now he is in doubt.
How to counter this situation?

LOL

Please contact this baba jee and your problem will be solved

http://www.bigfreeads.pk/adpics/502cbec60ef4adbfcddae4f34.png

PTI
4th May 2013, 19:31
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2013-daily/04-05-2013/updates/5-4-2013_145281_1.gif

PTI
4th May 2013, 19:33
LOL

Please contact this baba jee and your problem will be solved

http://www.bigfreeads.pk/adpics/502cbec60ef4adbfcddae4f34.png

Hahaha
If these Baba g could do they would have changed their own fortunes :)

UP
4th May 2013, 19:34
Can someone please tell me how many PTI members are standing for the NA and PP?

I have heard 118 members for the NA. Please clarify this question.

waqar goraya
4th May 2013, 19:39
Attack on PTI election office, JI candidate in Peshawar


A bomb blast occurred targeting an electoral office of Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf (PTI) near Peshawar’s Panchgai road area on Saturday morning, DawnNews reported.

“A time device, which was planted outside the office of PTI in Peshawar exploded but did not cause any loss of life,” a police official said.

The blast, however, destroyed the PTI’s election office and a few adjacent shops, police added. The explosion was heard from far distances and spread fear among residents of neighbouring areas.

According to bomb disposal unit, it was a time device which carried 1.5 to two kilograms of explosive material.

It was the first blast in Peshawar which targeted the office of PTI.

PTI chairman Imran Khan will also be addressing a public gathering in Peshawar today.

In another attack, a blast occurred near the convoy of Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) candidate from NA-39 in Hangu district, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

JI candidate Raj Mohammad survived the incident without any injuries. Mohammed was on his way to the Ferozekhel area of Orakzai Agency.

http://beta.dawn.com/news/812042/attack-on-pti-election-office-ji-candidate-in-peshawar

waqar goraya
4th May 2013, 19:42
Can someone please tell me how many PTI members are standing for the NA and PP?

I have heard 118 members for the NA. Please clarify this question.

About 135 are standing for NA, only in Punjab

PTI
4th May 2013, 19:51
Narowal Jalsa of Mian Nawaz Sharif postponed ===>>> Patwaris on leave?

UP
4th May 2013, 19:56
About 135 are standing for NA, only in Punjab
Overall, how many are standing for the NA all over Pakistan? And do you have any info about PP seats?

Black Zero
4th May 2013, 20:05
PTI will win 3 seats from LHR, never expected this.

Waseem
4th May 2013, 20:07
Can someone please tell me how many PTI members are standing for the NA and PP?

I have heard 118 members for the NA. Please clarify this question.

Don't know how accurate is it but here it is

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/390653_473449639392630_1400262662_n.jpg

Red Devil
4th May 2013, 20:16
Here is a very good website about Election 13 you can check and confirm where PTI members are contesting.

http://election2013.pk/constituency/list_na_constituencies

taq12345
4th May 2013, 20:19
Iron Man just joined PTI

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/941698_442124872548177_1526899355_n.jpg

Waseem
4th May 2013, 20:19
Don't have to prove i am not a big fan of Sharifs but pathetic arguments by MQM supporters in Karachi blaming Sharifs of poor law and order situation (ARY show on Karachi streets).

0tt0man
4th May 2013, 20:20
Results will be pouring in this time by next week Insh'Allah. :)
I hope whoever wins does his best for Pakistan. The only way is up.

baalti
4th May 2013, 20:34
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943639_377137712394747_1398574277_n.jpg

baalti
4th May 2013, 20:37
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923256_406564012784662_780219421_n.jpg

Ahson Iqbal ji kya ho geya?

http://www.picturesof.net/_images_300/A_Colorful_Cartoon_Man_Sitting_on_the_Toilet_Royal ty_Free_Clipart_Picture_100525-019470-106053.jpg

baalti
4th May 2013, 20:38
Why no drone attacks last few weeks ? USA know it can help PTI !!!!

I have been thinking even Americans not doing any stupid things which can give IK more votes. They are not using drones which will give IK more votes.

And we also know Nawaz Sharif has meet american more than few times and arabs too.

.................

DAMN!!!!

baalti
4th May 2013, 20:39
Nowshehra

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baalti
4th May 2013, 20:41
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923110_599643236721949_1497840770_n.jpg

baalti
4th May 2013, 20:42
below is a picture of the supposed turnout after seeing which NS decided to bail out of there as the IK jalsa there was massive....

first N turn out which caused cancellation... then IK jalsa...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941980_10151377352521766_193861739_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943054_509033472497489_957600135_n.jpg

PTI
4th May 2013, 20:57
PPP wins and Shair Runs Away

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baalti
4th May 2013, 20:58
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baalti
4th May 2013, 21:04
11 may evening inshallah

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/179119_354176918037674_1677616623_n.jpg

baalti
4th May 2013, 21:16
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/11816_504441702954300_291809544_n.jpg

Waseem
4th May 2013, 21:17
NA 1 Peshawar - Muhammad Subtain Gilani of Jamiat Ulam e Islam (surely not Fazal) candidate withdraws in favour of Imran Khan.

shan
4th May 2013, 21:17
Don't know how accurate is it but here it is

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/390653_473449639392630_1400262662_n.jpg

It seem PTI didnt even bother that much with Sindh.

waqar_ahmad
4th May 2013, 21:19
Definitely captain insaftak, he was supporting Imran even when i was busy supporting Musharaff :)

I remember those times. You and I had some good arguments back then. But you have always been a quality poster, disagreements dont matter

PTI
4th May 2013, 21:22
Propaganda of PTI-PPP agreement exposed
Daily Naibat reported a story about PPP/PTI Seat adjustment in Rawalpindi

http://i44.tinypic.com/a16kk.png

But according to the ECP final list Raja Tariq Kiani is a PPP candidate from PP3

http://oi39.tinypic.com/4v1jlz.jpg

shan
4th May 2013, 21:28
N league is cancer to Pakistan. They need to get rid of them even if PTI have to compromise with PPP, i hope IK ego doesnt come in between.

FAM
4th May 2013, 21:33
Anyone in PTI standing from NA-238?

Bewal Express
4th May 2013, 21:38
Neither Javed Kosar or Ch Iftekhar will win in pp3 as theY will cancel each other out.

Waseem
4th May 2013, 21:38
I remember those times. You and I had some good arguments back then. But you have always been a quality poster, disagreements dont matter

Waqar bhai It was all in best interest of Pakistan as i didn't find PPP or PMLN sincere to Pakistan and Imran Khan was nowhere. Musharaff made blunders and Imran Khan's support was natural as he is by far the most sincere Pakistani politician.

saadibaba
4th May 2013, 21:40
Fazlur Rehman thought I'd declare Ahmadis Muslims, but I'm not a hypocrite: Imran Khan


PTI Chairman Imran Khan addressing a public gathering at Attock. PHOTO: RASHID ALI/EXPRESS

SWABI: “Maulana [Fazlur Rehman] thought I would declare Ahmadis Muslims but Imran Khan is not a munafiq (hypocrite)”, said Imran Khan while addressing supporters at a rally in Swabi on Saturday.

Imran spoke of initial allegations put forth by Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam – Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman of being supported by a Jewish lobby and said that the newest accusation of support from the Ahmadi lobby is to fool the nation.

“I’ve read the Holy Quran with translation and it clearly states that one who does not believe in the finality of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is not a Muslim. The Holy Quran asks us to follow the example of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and though it is not possible to reach his level of perfection, I try my best to be like him,” Imran said.

He further went on to say people like Rehman should stop selling religion to get votes and also asked them to prepare for a political death.

Background

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan on Thursday issued a statement saying that the “PTI totally subscribes to the article in the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the Ahmadis. It is not part of the PTI agenda to seek amendment of the said article in the Constitution.”

The PTI Chairman was referring to article 260-3 of the Constitution that declares Ahmadis non-Muslims. Additionally, articles 298-B and 298-C prohibit Ahmadis from posing as Muslims, calling their faith Islam, proselytising, or “in any manner whatsoever” outraging the religious feelings of Muslims.

This clarification came in response to a video clip that surfaced on social media, showing a woman named Nadia Ramzan Chaudhry in a meeting with Mirza Masroor Ahmad, spiritual leader of the Ahmadi community, in UK. According to the video, Chaudhry especially asked for Ahmadi votes on behalf of the PTI.

Khan denied any links with the woman and said that it would be against the Representation of the People Act, 1976 and instructions of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to ask for votes in this manner.

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HamzaSaeen
4th May 2013, 21:41
N league is cancer to Pakistan. They need to get rid of them even if PTI have to compromise with PPP, i hope IK ego doesnt come in between.

as much as I like IK, his ego WILL come in between, and rightly so. both PPP and PML-N are a cancer to Pakistan. in fact, PPP is a bigger one.

saadibaba
4th May 2013, 21:41
^^^

I know he wants to distance himself from the Ahmadi scandal but he didn't had to go this extreme....

shan
4th May 2013, 21:46
No need to use Quran to justify disgusting law. Doesnt Islam forbid to call each other kafir? But in current climate it will be political sucide for Imran Khan so cant blame him.

aashiqmizaaj
4th May 2013, 22:35
I need Help.There is one video where imran khan is saying that in Jalsa,
Naat will make people bore.
One Noora send it my brother who was certain to vote for PTI but now he is in doubt.
How to counter this situation?

This is easy. For one he made reference to youngesters getting bored and this shows that he knows his people. Our youth try to carry the tag of Islam but lack sincerity hence they get bored with naats. Unfortunately what he is saying is true and it's more of an indication of our youth's mentality than his.

shan
4th May 2013, 22:39
We should start getting results on 11th may right?

zimmz
4th May 2013, 22:56
I need Help.There is one video where imran khan is saying that in Jalsa,
Naat will make people bore.
One Noora send it my brother who was certain to vote for PTI but now he is in doubt.
How to counter this situation?


This is easy. For one he made reference to youngesters getting bored and this shows that he knows his people. Our youth try to carry the tag of Islam but lack sincerity hence they get bored with naats. Unfortunately what he is saying is true and it's more of an indication of our youth's mentality than his.

Agree with aashiqmizaaj. Ask your brother that if a poltical lparty is preparing for political jalsa (rather than a religious gathering) then would it be logical to recite naats in jalsa? I am sure your brother won't stay there after couple of naats. Imran, by saying naats will bore the youth, doesn't mean he himself is against naats or he don't want to listen to them when there is a proper occaision.

Runner Up
4th May 2013, 23:16
Hate to say this but majority will vote for PML (N) in Punjab and as a Neutral person, I also think PML (N) is favourite in Punjab. I hate N League but these Kuttay Ki Dumm / Jahil people will still go with N League no matter whatever you show on TV or launch a campaign against them.

shan
4th May 2013, 23:27
Hate to say this but majority will vote for PML (N) in Punjab and as a Neutral person, I also think PML (N) is favourite in Punjab. I hate N League but these Kuttay Ki Dumm / Jahil people will still go with N League no matter whatever you show on TV or launch a campaign against them.

I dont think N league will win majority of seats in Punjab and neither PTI. So PTI have best chance to make deal with other parties and form goverment in Punjab. Punjab gets 50% of funds so Ganjas will be happy ruling Punjab for another 5 years.

Imr4n_Khan
4th May 2013, 23:35
What's PTIs stand in Sindh? Is anyone from pti running in Sindh? Is Imran Khan going to sindh?

Runner Up
4th May 2013, 23:52
^^ No chance.

Runner Up
4th May 2013, 23:53
Seen many programs where news anchors asking people who will they vote on streets and majority of them saying they will vote Nawaz Sharif party.

0tt0man
5th May 2013, 00:17
What's PTIs stand in Sindh? Is anyone from pti running in Sindh? Is Imran Khan going to sindh?
I frequent a tech forum where majority of people are Karachi residents. PTI has a 4:1 lead over MQM amongst the eligible voters.

A poll lead on Social media/Internet proves nothing though. Ground realities may not be the same.
It's just that all of them were die-hard MQM supporters a few years back.

Zarrar
5th May 2013, 00:32
^^PTI would have to establish a terrorist wing, just like PPP, MQM, and ANP to even have a chance of competing in Sindh...otherwise futile and PTI has rightly realized this...

insaftak
5th May 2013, 01:06
Loving all the love I am getting in this thread :P

insaftak
5th May 2013, 01:10
NO Jalsa in Peshawar, but Khan sahab showed up in NA 1

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Pak_Jazba
5th May 2013, 01:56
Official

9th May Daytime - Karachi Jalsa
9th May Nightime - Islamabad Jalsa

Going to be a huge day. Though i personally feel worried for Imran coming to Karachi, as the situation there is just not right for political activities.

zimmz
5th May 2013, 02:00
A kick on back side of fazlu diesel...JUI candidate in NA-1 withdraw in favor of Imran.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151628521011672

insaftak
5th May 2013, 02:02
^^

I don't think there will be any jalsa in karachi...

insaftak
5th May 2013, 02:02
A kick on back side of fazlu diesel...JUI candidate in NA-1 withdraw in favor of Imran.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151628521011672

Yeh doosri JUI hai JUI-N wali :P

Pak_Jazba
5th May 2013, 02:05
Just saw a clip where Asma Shirazi was asking a lady about her vote. She said she would vote for IK because he will make a 'naya pakistan', something like Jinnah has envisioned. Asma shirazi goes on & says 'Qaid Azam walay Taliban k saath to nai hotey'.

How unbiased.

insaftak
5th May 2013, 02:06
LO jee kel lo gal. Tsunami kashmir be pohnch gai vo be india walay mein :P

http://www.hindustantimes.com/images/2013/5/2c34dae4-15d6-44b9-80ee-bcaa95454707hires.jpg

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/JAndK/Imran-Khan-s-party-balloons-carrying-poll-banner-reaches-J-amp-K-from-Pakistan/Article1-1054910.aspx

Bewal Express
5th May 2013, 02:16
Do we have any predictions or latest opinion polls. On this forum-with most of us being PTI fans, you can get a false impression of the election so i want the let down to start now rather than feel deflated next week.

baalti
5th May 2013, 02:27
Just saw a clip where Asma Shirazi was asking a lady about her vote. She said she would vote for IK because he will make a 'naya pakistan', something like Jinnah has envisioned. Asma shirazi goes on & says 'Qaid Azam walay Taliban k saath to nai hotey'.

How unbiased.


yup, and then ppl think that the surveys they perform in their shows reflect true scenarios... its obvious that for their recordings of shows they prob get 3-1 ratio in favor of PTI but edit and cut and televise the non-live program so it depicts N league as ahead... :nasir

akheR
5th May 2013, 02:32
Syed Sabtain Gillani leaves NA 1 Peshawar seat for Imran khan and pledge full support for him.

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baalti
5th May 2013, 02:42
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waqar goraya
5th May 2013, 02:58
NA-1 looks a comparatively easy challenge for Khan than Lahore and Pindi

baalti
5th May 2013, 03:12
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zimmz
5th May 2013, 03:13
Yeh doosri JUI hai JUI-N wali :P

Doesn't matter. In video clip both maulana hazrat testified the character of Imran in response to fazlu.

akhtar fan
5th May 2013, 03:19
7 days left.

Tsunami Imran Khan ki will rule!!!!

Pti zindabad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

akhtar fan
5th May 2013, 03:20
Ek tsunami ek tufaan Imran Khaan Imran Khaaaan!

aashiqmizaaj
5th May 2013, 03:33
Doesn't matter. In video clip both maulana hazrat testified the character of Imran in response to fazlu.

Exactly!

farazaidi
5th May 2013, 04:01
Yesterday I was thinking that how can poll rigging be prevented... we certainly dont have any computerized system.. ppl go in stamp the ballot paper and drop it in a box... now after that, fake votes can be added, or ballots can be falsely claimed towards a particular party... why dont they do this... lets say on election day, in the camp, have a representative of ea party (or from PTI atleast for our sakes) sit down and tick away a number for every voter that casts a vote... (just like scoring in a cricket game, keep ticking off the numbers for each vote given in person)... so say if i am sitting in the camp and i see that 10000 ppl came in to vote in the particular camp... obviously when they tally up the votes and divide between the parties the numbers should add up to 10000 +/- 15-20 votes... this way parties wont be able to cast votes of deceased ppl, or fake voting... and we will get a true picture of what the results were...

The system is already inplace. They are called 'polling agents', one from each party/person contesting at that constituency is allowed. All of them have a copy of list of voters. Problem is when polling stations are hijacked, ballot boxes are stolen and plenty of bogus votes are entered magically :altaf

Black Zero
5th May 2013, 04:46
Do we have any predictions or latest opinion polls. On this forum-with most of us being PTI fans, you can get a false impression of the election so i want the let down to start now rather than feel deflated next week.

there was a recent polls in Lahore...

based on that:

- Imran will win from LHR
- NS will win heavily
- PPP will win the ghurki seat
- Saad Rafiq will lose


Bottom line

out of total 13 seats:

PML-N: 9
PTI: 3
PPP: 1


Details here: http://rtilive.pk/2013/04/30/election-2013-survey-by-rtilive/

Bilbo
5th May 2013, 04:53
Some ground realities for those who always come in and ask for "humain ground realities do, yeh non sense nahin"

آجکل میاں صاحب جس علاقے میں انتخابی مہم جلسے سے خطاب کرنے جاتے ہیں وہاں کے مقامی اُمیدوار سے پوچھتے ہیں کہ یہاں لوگ کیا سُن کر خوش ہونگے۔ وہ بتاتا ہے کہ لوگوں کو اِس شہر میں یونیورسٹی کا شوق ستاتا ہے، اِس گاؤں کے لوگ ضلع بنوانے کے خوہشمند ہیں۔ میاں صاحب بغیر آؤ تاؤ دیکھے جھٹ سے وہ اعلان فرما دیتے ہیں۔ نجانے کِتنے گلی محلوں کو ضلع اور تحسیل بنا چُکے اور کِتنوں کی شامت باقی ہے۔ ابھی گُذشتہ دِنوں مانسہرہ میں ایک عالم فراموشی میں ائیرپوٹ بنانے کا اعلان فرما ڈالا، اُس سے پہلے مردان میں بُلٹ ٹرین دوڑا آئے تھے۔ یہی حالت چھوٹے نورے کی بھی ہے۔ اُن پر میڈیکل کالجز بنانے کا خبط سوار ہے ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔ لگ بھگ اپنے سولہ سترہ جلسوں میں پچیس تیس میڈیکل کالجوں کا اعلان فرما چُکے ہیں۔ مریم نواز شریف بھی اِیسی درفنطنیاں چھوڑنے میں اپنے بزرگوں کو بھی پیچھے چھوڑ کر بھاگی جا رہی ہیں۔ (بھاگنا بھی کئی طرح کا ہوتا ہے آپ مریم کا نام سُنتے ہی ایک ہی طرف بھاگ پڑتے ہو)۔

خبطی میاں شور باز کی خواب فروشی اِس سطح پر پہنچ چُکی کہ ایک میڈیکل کالج کا اعلان شیخوپورہ میں کیا تو وہی رٹی رٹائی تقریر میڈیکل کالج کے وعدے سمیت خانقاہ ڈوگراں کے جلسے میں دہرا آئے جو شیخوپورہ سے چند میل کے فاصلے پر ایک قصباتی سا شہر ہے۔ احسن اقبال کو ابرارالحق نے نارووال میں گھیر رکھا ہے ورنہ وہی بتا دیتا کہ میاں صاحب اب تک آپ کوئی ستر میڈیکل کالجز، پچاس یونیورسٹیاں، دو درجن ائیر پورٹس اور نصف درجن سی پورٹس کا اعلان صِرف پنجاب میں کر چُکے ہیں حالانکہ سی پوٹس سے پہلے سمندر بھی بنوانا پڑتا ہے جو نہر سے کافی بڑا ہوتا ہے بلکہ دریا سے بھی وڈا۔ احس رشید کے بعد لے دے کے پرویز رشید بچتا تھا لیکن وہ موُا ہر جلسے میں کُرسیاں ہی گنتا رہتا ہے حالانکہ اُسے میاں صاحب کے کالجز، یونیورسٹیاں اور ائیرپورٹس وغیرہ گننے کا زیادہ ثواب مِلے گا۔

اگر کوئی شخص جِس نے پاکستان کبھی دیکھا نہ سُنا ہو وہ اگر اِن کی تقاریر کی آڈیو سُن لے تو پہلے تو سمجھے گا کہ یہ دونوں بھائی کِسی چھوٹے سے شہر کی میئر شپ کے اُمیدوار ہیں جو سڑکیں اور نالیاں بناتے پھِر رہے ہیں دوسرا خیال یہ آئے گا کہ ان حضرات نے اپنے گُزشتہ ادوار میں پرائمری اور سکینڈری ایجوکیشن پر جنگی بنیادوں پر کام کیا ہے لِہٰذا اب مُلک بھر میں تعلیم یافتہ نوجوانوں کی بہتات ہے چنانچہ اعلیٰ تعلیم از حد ضروری ہے سو آئیندہ مدت مکالجز اور یونورسٹیاں بنانے کے مشن پر ہیں ڈتے ہیں۔
کراچی سے فاٹا تک راوی چین ہی چین لِکھتا ہے، لوگ مچھروں سے مرتے ہیں نہ بچے خسرے سے، کھانسی کے سیرپ پیتے ہی مریض کی کھانسی ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کیلئے اُسکے سینے میں دفن ہو جاتی ہے، کارڈیالوجی سنٹر سے مفت دوائیں لینے والےحکومت کا احسان اپنی جان نچھاور کر کے اُتارتے ہیں، پولیس ایسی مستعد کے ڈر سے چوروں نے ایوان صدر، چیف و پرائم منسٹر ہاؤسز میں پنا لے رکھی ہے۔ عدل و انصاف کے ڈر سے قاتل جائے واردات پر کبھی اپنا نام پتا چھوڑ کر نہیں جاتے، ہمیشہ نامعلوُم ہی رہتے ہیں ۔ ۔ ۔ ۔

لگتا ہے اِن خبیثوں کے نوحے لِکھتے لِکھتے اُنگلیوں کی پوروں سے ماس اُدھڑ جائے گا لیکن شیطان کی آنت سے طویل تر ان کی خباثتیں ختم نہیں ہونگی۔ یہ نظام ہمارے گاؤں محلے کی سڑکوں کی طرح ہے جو ہر چار سال بعد ٹوٹ جاتا ہے تاکہ پانچویں سال الیکشن میں اُس کی تعمیر و مرمت پر قومی الیکشن لڑا جا سکے۔

نورا خاندان جِتنے وعدے کر چُکا ہے اِس سے یہ یقین پُختہ ہوتا ہے کہ وہ الیکشن نہیں جیت سکتے ورنہ وہ وعدے کبھی نہ کرتے جِن کی تکمیل کو ورلڈ بینک تھوڑا اور عُمرِ نوح چھوٹی ہے۔

Gr8 writing

HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR
5th May 2013, 05:07
The system is already inplace. They are called 'polling agents', one from each party/person contesting at that constituency is allowed. All of them have a copy of list of voters. Problem is when polling stations are hijacked, ballot boxes are stolen and plenty of bogus votes are entered magically :altaf

in 2010 when PTI and MQM contested for elections and when MQM got second highest number of votes including the biggest constituency chillas? and when PTI got thainga can you elaborate how MQM rigged elections and PTI lost that election, infact PTI had no lota to support its election there

farazaidi
5th May 2013, 05:48
^which election are you talking about bhai? 2010? local body election? IIRC, they were non-party based

Bilbo
5th May 2013, 08:58
32805

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 09:08
maulana diesel's a legend :)))

imran's lucky to be half punjabi and half pashtun. he fits in perfectly :ik

AZ
5th May 2013, 10:08
there was a recent polls in Lahore...

based on that:

- Imran will win from LHR
- NS will win heavily
- PPP will win the ghurki seat
- Saad Rafiq will lose


Bottom line

out of total 13 seats:

PML-N: 9
PTI: 3
PPP: 1


Details here: http://rtilive.pk/2013/04/30/election-2013-survey-by-rtilive/

:)) :)) no chance...another Changa Manga poll.

Looney
5th May 2013, 10:11
With constant bombings and killings in Sindh , KPK and Balochistan , the voter turn out there will be really low . The elections will be based on how Punjab votes then ? Hardly fair , the elections should be postponed until they can provide better security .

AZ
5th May 2013, 10:19
^ when the parties that are being targeted are determined to contest elections then why should they be delayed.

PTI
5th May 2013, 10:50
Thats Cool

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PTI
5th May 2013, 10:53
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Anfield
5th May 2013, 11:07
PTI flag hosting ceremony in Lahore. Live

http://www.livestream.com/ptilivestream

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 11:20
Fazlur Rehman thought I'd declare Ahmadis Muslims, but I'm not a hypocrite: Imran Khan


PTI Chairman Imran Khan addressing a public gathering at Attock. PHOTO: RASHID ALI/EXPRESS

SWABI: “Maulana [Fazlur Rehman] thought I would declare Ahmadis Muslims but Imran Khan is not a munafiq (hypocrite)”, said Imran Khan while addressing supporters at a rally in Swabi on Saturday.

Imran spoke of initial allegations put forth by Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam – Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman of being supported by a Jewish lobby and said that the newest accusation of support from the Ahmadi lobby is to fool the nation.

“I’ve read the Holy Quran with translation and it clearly states that one who does not believe in the finality of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is not a Muslim. The Holy Quran asks us to follow the example of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and though it is not possible to reach his level of perfection, I try my best to be like him,” Imran said.

He further went on to say people like Rehman should stop selling religion to get votes and also asked them to prepare for a political death.

Background

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan on Thursday issued a statement saying that the “PTI totally subscribes to the article in the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the Ahmadis. It is not part of the PTI agenda to seek amendment of the said article in the Constitution.”

The PTI Chairman was referring to article 260-3 of the Constitution that declares Ahmadis non-Muslims. Additionally, articles 298-B and 298-C prohibit Ahmadis from posing as Muslims, calling their faith Islam, proselytising, or “in any manner whatsoever” outraging the religious feelings of Muslims.

This clarification came in response to a video clip that surfaced on social media, showing a woman named Nadia Ramzan Chaudhry in a meeting with Mirza Masroor Ahmad, spiritual leader of the Ahmadi community, in UK. According to the video, Chaudhry especially asked for Ahmadi votes on behalf of the PTI.

Khan denied any links with the woman and said that it would be against the Representation of the People Act, 1976 and instructions of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to ask for votes in this manner.

Read more: elections2013
this "born again" imran sounds very dangerous! it's unfortunate that the youth is following his rightist views.

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 11:33
this "born again" imran sounds very dangerous! it's unfortunate that the youth is following his rightist views.

IK's views are actually mainstream. Our whole populace has become rightist and religiously conservative and intolerant. IK simply representing the majority.

Anfield
5th May 2013, 11:45
We became religiously conservative long time ago. Otherwise how would you explain BB with dubatta on her head and tasbeeh in her hand. Refusing a handshake with Mark Taylor during the WC's final presentation ceremony.

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 11:47
Still unfortunate to hear what he had to say about Ahmedis. I personally know of an Ahmedi family who are hard core IK supporters and their Ahmedi relatives in Lahore are actively campaigning for PTI. Wonder what must be going through their minds after hearing his comments.

Personally, I advise all Ahmedis to leave Pakistan if they have the means to and settle in US, UK or other western countries where they can get the freedom of religion to practice their faith like they want to. There is sadly no place for them in Pakistan and I don't see that changing in the near future.

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 11:56
We became religiously conservative long time ago. Otherwise how would you explain BB with dubatta on her head and tasbeeh in her hand. Refusing a handshake with Mark Taylor during the WC's final presentation ceremony.

True, the process has been continous and steady since the Objective resolution in 1949. BB after coming back to Pakistan hurriedly got married just to protect her image and make sure she does not get associated with every other man around her. She knew otherwise she would be playing into the stereotypical caricature made out of her by the right wing of being a liberal secular pro-western feminist. Same for the dupatta and other religious paraphernalia.

Anfield
5th May 2013, 11:57
Still unfortunate to hear what he had to say about Ahmedis. I personally know of an Ahmedi family who are hard core IK supporters and their Ahmedi relatives in Lahore are actively campaigning for PTI. Wonder what must be going through their minds after hearing his comments.

Personally, I advise all Ahmedis to leave Pakistan if they have the means to and settle in US, UK or other western countries where they can get the freedom of religion to practice their faith like they want to. There is sadly no place for them in Pakistan and I don't see that changing in the near future.

I don't think Minorities would be at risk if Imran khan comes to power. They would not have to leave Pakistan.

Looney
5th May 2013, 12:02
Liberals ki khair nahi ab ki :sharif :imran

reminds me of those random wall chalkings in Karachi - " taliban aa rahe haiN " :P

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 12:06
I don't think Minorities would be at risk if Imran khan comes to power. They would not have to leave Pakistan.

It's not because of IK coming to power or not. Our whole society harbors the same sentiments against Ahmedis that are on open display by our mainstream politicians. The reality of this whole thing becoming a scandal, so potentially damaging to his chances at the poll that he had to come out and renounce Ahmedis multiple times, just goes to show what state of religious intolerance we live in today's Pakistan. That religious intolerance is the reason why I advocate they move abroad. Nothing to do with IK.

Looney
5th May 2013, 12:12
Smokers’ Corner: Pakistan: a very modern history

Pakistan occupies an area which was home to some of the earliest Neanderthal settlements, some of whose decedents can still be found hiding in caves in the mountains of North West Pakistan.

The only difference is, in the Stone Ages, these Neanderthals were armed with clubs and stones, but today they are armed with guns and bombs. Remarkably though, they remain as furry as they were millions of years ago.

The modern state of Pakistan was born out of the partition of the sub-continent in 1947 and has faced many regional confrontations, usually brought on by its continuing habit of poking its nose where it doesn’t belong.

Created to meet the demands of Indian Muslims, Pakistan was originally in two parts: Part 1 was called Maula Jat and Part 2 was called Jat in Dhaka.

The east wing — present day Flooded Republic of Bangladesh is on the Bay of Bengal bordering the Bollywood Republic of India and the Miserable Republic of Burma.

The west wing — present-day the Not-Quite-Arab Republic of Pakistan — stretches from the Arabian Sea to the Himalayas and according to famous poet, philosopher, military strategist, historian and judo expert, Zidee Hamid, the country actually stretches all the way to New Delhi, Kabul, Tashkent and maybe even Beijing and many parts of Mars.

The break-up of the two wings came in 1971 when the fish-eating east-wing seceded after fighting an insurgency culled and planned from the pages of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and an early draft of the Di Vinci Code.

Civilian politics in Pakistan in the last few decades has been tarnished by corruption, inefficiency, confrontations and bad breath between various institutions and/or whatever institutions that are left in the country. Actually, the word political institution is an oxymoron when discussed in the context of Pakistani politics and the state.

Alternating periods of civilian and military rule have not helped to establish stability. In fact, instability is the only stable tradition in Pakistan; a tradition that is being passionately upheld by a series of TV talk shows because political stability would mean lack of viewership and advertising revenues for the channels and a drastic drop in popcorn sales that can spell disaster for the country’s economy.

Pakistan came under military rule once again in October 1999 after the ousting of a civilian government that had lost a great deal of support because the public lost its appetite for rich dishes such as nihari, paye, and biryani which Prime Minister Naraaz Sharif was a great fan of.

He has since become a vegetarian of sorts and is usually taunted as becoming a sissy by Brig (R) Cookie Monster Gul, the architect of the Afghan Jihad and the 1857 Indian Mutiny.

According to famous poet, philosopher, military strategist and lifestyle fascist, Maria Beep she also took part in the 1857 Mutiny as a gallant needle-worker.

Her gallantry was praised by the famous poet, philosopher, military strategist and flogging enthusiast, Sangsar Abbasi. Maria Beep still has her famous 1857 needles with which she now pokes voodoo dolls of her competitors in Pakistan’s cut-throat fashion industry.

Sanana & Safibarf are her two latest victims who launched a counterattack through their new summer collection that included Persian tea cosies worn as corporate aunty headgear.

After Pakistan’s last benevolent dictator, General Mush P. Bonaparte, eventually relinquished his uniform amidst tears in November 2007, in February 2008, his supporters were defeated in the election, also amidst tears.

The Pakistan Khapay Khapay Khapay Party formed a coalition government led by Asif Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Zardari Bhutto and an impeachment process was launched against Mush, who resigned (amidst more tears) in August 2008.

Pakistan’s place on the world stage shifted after the September 11, 2001, attacks in the US. It dropped its support for the Neanderthal regime in Afghanistan and was propelled into the frontline in the fight against terrorism, becoming a key ally of the Elders of Zion and assorted secret Freemason societies.

However, Pakistani forces have struggled to maintain control over the restive Neanderthal regions along the Afghan border, where Neanderthal militants are firmly entrenched with bombs strapped around their tummies which they claim is only a weight reducing exercise. Most Pakistanis entirely believe this to be true.

In the spring of 2009, the government attempted to reduce disaffection in the troubled north-western Swat district by agreeing to the imposition of the Whipping Women Law.

Far from improving security, this move allowed the Neanderthals to tighten their grip on the region, and the agreement broke down after only a few whips.

The government waged a military campaign to flush out the furry Neanderthals — an act that many sensitive Pakistanis such as poet, philosopher, politician and balaybaaz, Lord Jibran Can’t, and Mian Naraz Sharif criticised. Mainly just for the heck of it.

Asif Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Zardari Bhutto won the presidential race of September 6, 2008, by a big majority. His election came after his predecessor General P. Mush Bonaparte resigned amidst tears under threat of impeachment.

General P. Mush Bonaparte’s rule had ushered in increased freedom for the print media and a liberalisation of broadcasting policies. Television is the dominant medium, and there are around 50,000 private channels all babbling about the same things but each calling their individual babbling ‘exclusive.’

More than 100 private FM radio stations have been licensed. Fake American accents and low IQ levels are firm prerequisites for success.

Scores of unlicensed FM stations are said to operate in the tribal areas. They are usually operated by Neanderthal RJs of which DJ Fazalullah In Da Caaaaave is the most popular.

There are around 20 million internet users in Pakistan. A growing number of young Pakistanis have engrossing and intelligent discussions on various internet sites. Here is one example:

Superbilla:
What you think you think you are you kafir anti-Islam Pakistan Afghanistan Israeli Hindu dog!

Pakpunk:
Oh, you shut up you terrorist what you think you are you and I am I am great Muslim and Pakistan jeeay jeeay yea!!

Munchkins:
Oh why you fight you both, we all Muslim ummah and Pakistani patriots so we should make unity and gather and explode atom bum on India!!!!

Superbilla:
Oh you shut up you hypocrite you not real Pakistani but Ahmadi nonsense, oh you bastaaaaaaaa!!!

Munchkins:
Shut up your face you infidel man you destroy unity of Muslim ummah you too bastaaaaaaaa!!!!

Moderator:
Guys please refrain from using bad language. We’re Muslims and this is a respectable forum.

Munchkins:
Oh why you say this to me to me what about superbilla and pakpunk I am tolerant best Muslim in whole wide world like Pakistan best country in whole wide worldly universe.

Moderator:
I said exhibit tolerance and respect, okay?

BobbyBunny:
Thank you, sir, for the tolerant words. I am from the US and …

Moderator:
What? US? Oh, you bastaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

http://dawn.com/2013/05/05/smokers-corner-pakistan-a-very-modern-history/

:))):)):)))

Anfield
5th May 2013, 12:14
It's not because of IK coming to power or not. Our whole society harbors the same sentiments against Ahmedis that are on open display by our mainstream politicians. The reality of this whole thing becoming a scandal, so potentially damaging to his chances at the poll that he had to come out and renounce Ahmedis multiple times, just goes to show what state of religious intolerance we live in today's Pakistan. That religious intolerance is the reason why I advocate they move abroad. Nothing to do with IK.

@bolded.Couldn't have agreed more.

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 12:21
imran live in lahore right now... it's another islamic history lesson. please talk about what matters! terrorism, corruption, religious extremism and poverty. what happened 1400 years ago was a different era khan sahib

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 12:22
he wants to make dams on all the rivers in pakistan... good luck on getting sindh and pakhtunkhwa to agree :zardari

Waseem
5th May 2013, 12:27
Still unfortunate to hear what he had to say about Ahmedis. I personally know of an Ahmedi family who are hard core IK supporters and their Ahmedi relatives in Lahore are actively campaigning for PTI. Wonder what must be going through their minds after hearing his comments.

Personally, I advise all Ahmedis to leave Pakistan if they have the means to and settle in US, UK or other western countries where they can get the freedom of religion to practice their faith like they want to. There is sadly no place for them in Pakistan and I don't see that changing in the near future.

I agree, know a few Ahmadis who are hardcore PTI supporters. They are very patriotic Pakistanis but sadly it's not easy for them live in country like Pakistan.

You can't blame Imran Khan for his statements though, PMLN were spreading this propaganda that Imran has sent a delegation to request Ahmadis to vote for PTI and Imran will declare them muslims.

LethalSami
5th May 2013, 12:30
he wants to make dams on all the rivers in pakistan... good luck on getting sindh and pakhtunkhwa to agree :zardari

totally cutoff the electricity to the areas resisting dams.....

phir naani yaad aye gi, aur maan gaye ge :ik

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 12:34
The second wave

By Cyril Almeida

KHAN said it was a dream; the Khanistas believed in him; everyone else scoffed — May 11 was supposed to be the validation of logic over irrationality.

Khan had no plan, no programme, no ideology. His wasn’t politics, it was anti-politics, the critics screamed.

No matter. Nothing seemed to stick to Teflon Khan. And here we are, a week from an election like no other and Khan looks like he may pull off an almighty surprise.

How big a surprise? Only the brave, or the foolish, would put numbers on their predictions, even now just six days out.

But it does come down to this: until a couple of weeks ago, of the 272 direct seats in parliament, the PML-N thought it had at least 90 in the bag — and perhaps as many as 110.

Now, today, the PML-N’s minimal haul is under threat. And that complicates everything.

For if 90 becomes 70 or even 65, the PML-N is suddenly neck-and-neck with the PPP, which can fairly reliably expect to pick up at least half of the 85-odd seats in south Punjab and interior Sindh and a handful of seats from the rest of Punjab and from Balochistan and KP.

The N-League neck-and-neck with the PPP complicates everything because of Zardari’s proven coalition-building and- sustaining skills and because the PPP has a larger number of potential allies in the next parliament. Finishing a close second to the N-League may be as good as winning for the PPP.

How big a threat is Khan? Spoiler status seemingly cemented, the question being whispered is whether Khan can steam past the PPP and perhaps, maybe, possibly mow down the PML-N.

The question is whispered in equal parts incredulity and disbelief because it never, ever seemed truly possible. Even now it doesn’t seem possible. Logic suggests it simply can’t happen.

But then … but then there is Khan, tearing through Punjab and KP, drawing monster crowds; the energy palpable, the voter real, the possibility ever-growing.

Why is Khan surging, why is the second wave materialising? Equally, what did the PML-N do wrong for it to find itself under pressure in its heartland, central and northern Punjab?

The answer seems to begin with the PPP. So utterly incompetent and dreadful was the PPP at the centre the past five years that it seems to have tainted everything status quo — including the N-League’s stodgy but reliable government in Punjab.

It’s not about specifics: about loadshedding or corruption or inflation or jobs. It’s something more, a feeling that the system is broken and that the status quo options cannot be part of the solution.

The PML-N didn’t help its own cause either. The folksy Nawaz understands and connects with voters in a way the administrator Shahbaz can’t — there is, after all, a reason why the party is called PML-N and not PML-Sharif.

But Punjab was run by the younger Sharif the past five years and it has hurt the party. The voter wants his representative to do stuff for him, but he also wants to feel loved; Shahbaz could dream up laptops and sasti rotis and metro buses but he couldn’t inspire Punjab politically.

That opened the door for someone else. That Khan is that someone else is, depending on who you ask, either down to his message or his audience.

The message is important — and long derided as inadequate by Khan’s critics.

Whether the simplicity of Khan’s message — you, the voter, deserve better but you will never get better from the tried and failed lot — is down to his brilliance or his inability to truly inspire is an argument for the pundits.

For the PTI, all that matters is when message has met audience, magic has been created.

The audience, though, has been key — particularly in Punjab. Obsessed with patronage and being the centre of their voters’ universe, the status quo politicians missed a trick: many a would-be voter just wants them to get the hell out of their way.

The dominant assumption has been that the voter is very different from the non-voter. The voter wants a state job or the protection that comes with being part of a dharra or seeks the benefits the politics of thana-kutchery can offer.

The non-voter is supposed to be different: he only wants the state to set the rules fairly, not help him play the game; he doesn’t want to do in a rival or flout the law gratuitously; he wants the system to work, fairly, reasonably and equal for all; he just wants the state to get the hell out of the way.

Finding none of that in the prevalent system, the non-voter stays out of the electoral process. So Khan’s challenge was supposed to be the impossible: getting the non-voter to vote.

But that either/or framework missed something terribly important: there’s a bit of the non-voter in the voter.

Much as the guy who does vote is immersed in the politics of patronage and thana-kutchery, he too dreams of a different reality, much like the one the non-voter wants.

Never really offered that something different by the status quo options, the voter worked the system to his advantage as best he could. Now, when someone else, Khan, has dared to offer that something else, the voter has leapt to embrace him.

The guy who traditionally votes and is now leaning towards Khan doesn’t really believe Khan can transform the system — he, the voter, knows the system too well to believe that transformation is possible.

But the voter is ready to protest the broken system that does serve him but, deep down, he doesn’t really like.

And that’s why Khan is surging: he’s tapped into the non-voter in every voter.

The writer is a member of staff.

cyril.a@gmail.com
Twitter: @cyalm

Wow, coming from an unbiased journalist like Cyril who has been extensively covering Punjab in the last few weeks, this is for real. IK has become the favorite to win now.

saadibaba
5th May 2013, 12:40
Last 7 days. IK going for the kill, Nooras sensing defeat and possible extinction, what will they do ???

Will they play the famous Jewish card (Maulana Diesel has already played it), will they dig up his former playboy lifestyle or do they have something else up their sleeve.....will it stick or will it blow right in their face ???

Interesting week ahead....

Waseem
5th May 2013, 12:42
imran live in lahore right now... it's another islamic history lesson. please talk about what matters! terrorism, corruption, religious extremism and poverty. what happened 1400 years ago was a different era khan sahib

His message behind reference to Islamic history was about "tolerance". He has been giving similar references in jalsas asking people to think beyond ethnic lines and how Islam treats everyone equally. MOST of his speech was about country's potential and not Islamic history, if you believe Imran can reduce religious extremism by criticizing these people then you are living in fool's paradise. Religious extremism can only be eradicated by educating people and giving them justice.

Zarrar
5th May 2013, 12:42
Still unfortunate to hear what he had to say about Ahmedis. I personally know of an Ahmedi family who are hard core IK supporters and their Ahmedi relatives in Lahore are actively campaigning for PTI. Wonder what must be going through their minds after hearing his comments.

Personally, I advise all Ahmedis to leave Pakistan if they have the means to and settle in US, UK or other western countries where they can get the freedom of religion to practice their faith like they want to. There is sadly no place for them in Pakistan and I don't see that changing in the near future.

A typically ignorant post...

Given that IK only echoed the logical and sound decision made by the Parliamentary board's hearings/investigation
on the matter back in '74, under the mediation of the Yahya Bakhtiyar, the then Attorney General, no fundamentalist
mullah by any stretch, and that too only AFTER the Qadiani Khalifa at the time, Mirza Nasir Ahmed, under cross-examination
had declared to the board all Non-Ahmedis to be Kafir...

So, your poor qadiani family friends have mutual feelings about Imran Khan...and in reality either they are truly
Kafirs or Imran Khan, take your pick...Degenerates would towards Imran Khan being kafir...

PTI
5th May 2013, 12:43
AZM E PAKISTAN Lahore

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJe-kkKCAAI6kR-.jpg

LethalSami
5th May 2013, 12:46
Last 7 days. IK going for the kill, Nooras sensing defeat and possible extinction, what will they do ???

Will they play the famous Jewish card (Maulana Diesel has already played it), will they dig up his former playboy lifestyle or do they have something else up their sleeve.....will it stick or will it blow right in their face ???

Interesting week ahead....

haha...nobody cares about that Jewish card......or IK past extra-curricular activities to the point that they won't vote for him or PTI

people care more about real issues like corruption, electricity, roads...

@Qadianis.....only If they would stop being "wannabe" muslims, their and everyone else's life would be easier...
even in the West where u want em moved, Nobody likes wannabe's........Assume they come to 'Murica and claim they are Christian while Not believing in Jesus as their savior and son of God and all that good stuff.....they're gonna be treated the same way, that they get treated in Pak.

so simple solution, say ur Qadiani and Not muslim, problem solved

PTI
5th May 2013, 12:56
I must admit that i never like Andleeb Abbas in TV shows because she is not a v.good debater or speaker but She has bring a lot to PTI.An unsung hero of PTI because she is the one who came up with the ideas of Tabdeeli Razakar and today AZM E Pakistan.

LethalSami
5th May 2013, 12:58
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/375116_537899639587024_1760264591_n.jpg

Sher being welcomed with Pak speciality :asif

but i thought litt'ers were for billi's only?

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 13:00
the sweet taste of a joota early in the morning :)))

HamzaSaeen
5th May 2013, 13:02
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/375116_537899639587024_1760264591_n.jpg

Sher being welcomed with Pak speciality :asif

but i thought litt'ers were for billi's only?

photoshop ham sharminda hain, teray qaatil zinda hain.

anakwalajinn
5th May 2013, 13:08
Guys, how does the election day/night work?

Voting polls are opened on the morning of 11th? When the close? When is winner announced? Details, please :)

justarslan
5th May 2013, 13:09
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/375116_537899639587024_1760264591_n.jpg

Sher being welcomed with Pak speciality :asif

but i thought litt'ers were for billi's only?

Good reason too and must be a PTI voter based on that reason.

Strike!
5th May 2013, 13:11
Guys, how does the election day/night work?

Voting polls are opened on the morning of 11th? When the close? When is winner announced? Details, please :)

Open at 7 am and close at around 5 pm i believe.

MC
5th May 2013, 13:12
^ That's too early. They should remain open till 7 or 8 at least.

PTI
5th May 2013, 13:13
ISF Inqilab Rally Hits Interior Lahore - Nonstop Junoon!

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anakwalajinn
5th May 2013, 13:13
Open at 7 am and close at around 5 pm i believe.

Thanks. So the votes are counted straight after? What time the finish counting? Is it like USA where results are showing on the screen all the time, or they only announce when every vote has been counted?

LethalSami
5th May 2013, 13:16
all the burger bacha's be sleepin till 5PM.......and when they wake up, "Oye yaar neend ee bari aye thi to phir vote denay kaisay jaatay"

Strike!
5th May 2013, 13:21
Thanks. So the votes are counted straight after? What time the finish counting? Is it like USA where results are showing on the screen all the time, or they only announce when every vote has been counted?

Results will be announced on the 12th i believe.


all the burger bacha's be sleepin till 5PM.......and when they wake up, "Oye yaar neend ee bari aye thi to phir vote denay kaisay jaatay"

On the contrary i think you will see the youth lined up before polling booths even open.

PTI
5th May 2013, 13:23
Asma Shirazi ...Lifafa show

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LethalSami
5th May 2013, 13:23
Results have already been printed out bu the joint effort in KSA, USA, UK...

you'll see the film on May 11

Strike!
5th May 2013, 13:26
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PTI
5th May 2013, 13:47
http://e.dunya.com.pk/news/2013/May/2013-05-05/LHR/colum_img/8625_80063637.jpg

PTI
5th May 2013, 13:53
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2013-daily/05-05-2013/editorial/col4.gif

Badsha
5th May 2013, 13:56
All of these "who will you vote for" shows are crap and I say this not because most of them say PML N.


In one of Asma Shirazi's show, she was asking people who they'd vote for between Haneed Abbasi and Imran Khan and 95 % said Imran Khan on the show.

I've been to that "alaqa" plenty of times and if anything, Hanif Abbasi has the edge.


So yeah... these shows are fake.

Badsha
5th May 2013, 13:58
Every day, PTI's growth is exponential while N leagues growth has stalled a bit.


Interesting tweet by Hamid Mir who says we're all in for a surprise and analysts will be proven wrong on the 11/12th.

Could it be PTI actually clean sweeping?


Or... could it be PPP coming back into power?

farazaidi
5th May 2013, 14:07
Guys, how does the election day/night work?

Voting polls are opened on the morning of 11th? When the close? When is winner announced? Details, please :)

voting period is from 8am to 5pm. Results of that particular polling booth is announced immediately after counting is finished. So you'll get complete results by midnight ! :imran

Badsha
5th May 2013, 14:17
http://https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/941489_481286528607840_2007935464_n.jpg

Badsha
5th May 2013, 14:19
Thanks. So the votes are counted straight after? What time the finish counting? Is it like USA where results are showing on the screen all the time, or they only announce when every vote has been counted?

Not only is every constituency being shown live, but even the race of that particular constituency is being broadcasted live.

As soon as a polling station is closed its results are counted and announced.




I'm going to go really early in the morning to avoid any bomb blasts and lines. :cheema


Can anyone confirm the timings?

Torpedo
5th May 2013, 15:11
Where can I find a map of Punjab Provincial Constituencies? ie which village/town/city falls in which constituency?

Waseem
5th May 2013, 15:17
Imran Khan schedule today

10:00 Aiwan-E-Iqbal LHR - Done

12:30 Khushab (Railway Ground) - Done
14:00 Chiniot (Hockey Ground)
15:30 Jhang (Talab Committee Ground)
16:30 Toba Tek Singh (Sports Stadium)
17:30 Faisalabad (Dhobi ghaat Ground)

Then 3 jalsas in Lahore constituencies

baalti
5th May 2013, 15:17
my health is dwindling a bit, but the love for IK has got me rolling...

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90,000 Fake Ballot Papers caught in Lower Dir, KPK. R.I.P Free & Fair Elections !!!



LOWER DIR: Police recovered at least 90 thousand fake ballot papers from Chakdara area of Lower Dir on Sunday.

According to DIG Malakand, the police have seized the recovered ballot papers and also arrested two accused, who belong to Lower Dir.

The case has been registered against the accused under section 419, 468, 420 and 471.

baalti
5th May 2013, 15:19
LAHORE: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Saturday took notice of a complaint by four Sialkot Jail officials stating that they were being coerced by their seniors to ensure that all voters in the prison voted for the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz.

Election Commission Director General Sher Afgan said they had received the complaint and that it had been sent to the Punjab Election Commissioner Mehboob Anwer for inquiry.
Anwer said the complaint had been sent to the Home Department. He said the department had been directed to respond at the earliest and file an inquiry report. However, he said, they had not yet received a reply from them.
Punjab Prisons IG Farooq Nazeer said he had constituted an inquiry committee under Prisons DIG Mubashar Ahmad Khan to probe the allegation. Khan’s report, he said, had been sent to the Home Department from where it would go to the ECP. Nazeer said the complaint appeared to be a mischief by some jail officials. “There are 1,110 votes in jails all over the Punjab. This gives an estimate of five to six votes per constituency. That would not make much difference to the results anywhere,” he said.
A similar complaint was filed last week by some jail officials from Lahore’s Camp Jail against their superintendent, Ejaz Asghar. Prisons DIG Saliq Jalal had visited the jail and decided that the allegation was false.

baalti
5th May 2013, 15:21
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baalti
5th May 2013, 15:24
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baalti
5th May 2013, 15:27
لاہور: 11مئی کو ہونے والے انتخابات سے قبل پاکستان میں مختلف سیاسی جماعتوں سے اخراج و شمولیت کا سلسلہ بھی زوروزور سے جاری ہے تاہم لاہورمیں دلچسپ واقعہ رونماہوا۔

پاکستانی صوبہ پنجاب کے دارالحکومت کے ایک حلقہ میں پیپلزپارٹی کے دفترپرتالاڈال کرپوری یونین کونسل کی تنظیم تحریک انصاف میں شامل ہو گئی۔

پاکستان میں سب سے ذیادہ وزٹ کی جانے والی آزادنیوزویب سائٹ دی نیوزٹرائب کے نمائندہ لاہورکے مطابق مذکورہ واقعہ قومی اسمبلی کے حلقہ 122میں پیش آیا۔

شاہ شمس قاری نامی علاقے میں پیپلزپارٹی کی یونین کونسل کی مکمل تنظیم نے پاکستان تحریک انصاف میں شمولیت کا اعلان کردیااورپی پی پی کے دفترپرتالا لاگا دیاگیا۔

مذکورہ حلقے سے پی ٹی آئی کے چئیرمین عمران خان قومی اسمبلی کے امیدوارہیں۔

پاکستان تحریک انصاف میں شامل ہونے والے پی پی پی کارکنوں کا کہناتھا کہ وہ پیپلزپارٹی کا دفتربند کر کے این اے 122سے عمران خان اورصوبائی حلقے سے تحریک انصاف کے امیدوارشعیب صدیقی کی مہم چلائیں گے۔

baalti
5th May 2013, 15:29
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Bewal Express
5th May 2013, 15:35
Who would have thought, old Cyril has started to believe!
http://dawn.com/2013/05/05/the-second-wave/

baalti
5th May 2013, 15:38
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baalti
5th May 2013, 15:47
Khushab...

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Imran_Sir
5th May 2013, 15:59
He has made some very bold statements this time around. I dont know why is he so confident that he is going to win and defeat Nawaz Sharif.

Has anyone else noticed this? He is always telling his rivals that we'll see who wins on 11th May.

Now if he fails to win, wont it be an embarrassment for him? How can he continue?

He has put in so much effort to win in these elections. There is no way he can work more hard to win in the future elections if he doesnt win now. This should be the end of the road for him.

In my opinion, if Imran Khan doesnt win then he should gracefully retire from politics and focus his mind on Pakistan cricket.

He should be our bowling coach heading into the next world cup.

Down2Earth
5th May 2013, 16:05
His sitting in the opposition will put enough pressure on nawaz if he wins. He would have wasted 20 years if he quits now. Cricket is not important. We need him to strengthen democracy in pakistan.

Maybe he's confident because he's being backed by the establishment? Doesn't matter who people vote for, pti will win by a majority :kiyani

Badsha
5th May 2013, 16:12
He has made some very bold statements this time around. I dont know why is he so confident that he is going to win and defeat Nawaz Sharif.

Has anyone else noticed this? He is always telling his rivals that we'll see who wins on 11th May.

Now if he fails to win, wont it be an embarrassment for him? How can he continue?

He has put in so much effort to win in these elections. There is no way he can work more hard to win in the future elections if he doesnt win now. This should be the end of the road for him.

In my opinion, if Imran Khan doesnt win then he should gracefully retire from politics and focus his mind on Pakistan cricket.

He should be our bowling coach heading into the next world cup.




He has lived on a "never give up" attitude. If he was to quit, he would've quit after 2002 when he won only 1 seat.


All his hard work is finally coming to something. Even if he doesn't win, he'll try again and again.

Like he once said : "Jab tak mein haar nahi manta mujhe koyi nahi hara sakta ".



Cricket has no importance when it comes to your country. Even in the opposition, he can be very affecting to the ruling party.

Bewal Express
5th May 2013, 16:19
Isn`t Nawaz the establishment man- a man whose whole career has been based on the patronage of the millitary men and a politician who took money of them(proven in a court of law).

0tt0man
5th May 2013, 16:21
A strong opposition can keep the government in check. A friendly opposition lets the govt. do as it pleases.

Even if PTI fails to make the government after May 11, it would not be the end of the road for them. The PTI supporters must keep that in mind.
There's still a life outside of politics you know :)

shah_1
5th May 2013, 16:26
He has made some very bold statements this time around. I dont know why is he so confident that he is going to win and defeat Nawaz Sharif.

Has anyone else noticed this? He is always telling his rivals that we'll see who wins on 11th May.

Now if he fails to win, wont it be an embarrassment for him? How can he continue?

He has put in so much effort to win in these elections. There is no way he can work more hard to win in the future elections if he doesnt win now. This should be the end of the road for him.

In my opinion, if Imran Khan doesnt win then he should gracefully retire from politics and focus his mind on Pakistan cricket.

He should be our bowling coach heading into the next world cup.

Dude, it doesn't work like that.

Even in the opposition with large number of seats, his party can still can make huge difference in Parliament. If the ruling party doesn't do well, Imran will have a chance again in the mid term election.

Torpedo
5th May 2013, 16:35
Where can I find a map of Punjab Provincial Constituencies? ie which village/town/city falls in which constituency?

Waseem
5th May 2013, 16:36
He has made some very bold statements this time around. I dont know why is he so confident that he is going to win and defeat Nawaz Sharif.

Has anyone else noticed this? He is always telling his rivals that we'll see who wins on 11th May.

Now if he fails to win, wont it be an embarrassment for him? How can he continue?

He has put in so much effort to win in these elections. There is no way he can work more hard to win in the future elections if he doesnt win now. This should be the end of the road for him.

In my opinion, if Imran Khan doesnt win then he should gracefully retire from politics and focus his mind on Pakistan cricket.

He should be our bowling coach heading into the next world cup.

I was watching an election program in which 4 candidates from one constituency were asked how many votes they will get and each said they will beat their opponents by 50000 votes :)
Do you want captain to say we will losy by 8 wickets or 5 wickets?

Waseem
5th May 2013, 16:49
A strong opposition can keep the government in check. A friendly opposition lets the govt. do as it pleases.

Even if PTI fails to make the government after May 11, it would not be the end of the road for them. The PTI supporters must keep that in mind.
There's still a life outside of politics you know :)

YES, that's how i think about it all as well. It won't be the end of road for any of us or even Imran Khan. He has mobilised the youth and created awareness so even Sharif's own supporters will not let them carry own the same business (educated youth anyway).
Strong opposition will keep the government on their toes unlike before so i am hopeful about Pakistan's future.

Badsha
5th May 2013, 16:56
I'm getting bored. Bring on the elections already!

baalti
5th May 2013, 17:00
CHINIOT...

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asifp
5th May 2013, 17:06
Nooras have this election won.

Report today that all prisoners will be forced to vote for PML-N.

PTI
5th May 2013, 17:10
IK Coming LHR 5th May:
NA 129 - Nishtar Colony 7pm
Na 127 - Model Town 8pm
Na 122 - Saman Abad 9Pm
NA 121 - Sabzazar A block 10Pm

baalti
5th May 2013, 17:35
apparently the jalsa of SS in sialkot yesterday, GEO showed fake audience from somewhere else (from a jalsa earlier)... Noora's and bikaao media...

baalti
5th May 2013, 17:49
A lion woke up one morning with the urge to assert his superiority over his fellow beasts. He strode over to a monkey, and roared "Who is the Mightiest of Animals?" "You are, Master," said the monkey, cowering. Then the lion approached a warthog. "Who is the Mightiest of Animals?" roared the lion. "You are, my Lord," said the warthog, quivering with fear. Next the lion met an elephant. "Who is the Mightiest of Animals?" roared the lion. The elephant grabbed the lion with his trunk, swung him in the air, slammed him ten times against a tree trunk, threw him into a dense patch of thorns, and strolled away. "Okay!" shouted the lion. "There's no need to turn nasty just because you don't know the answer!":D

zimmz
5th May 2013, 17:49
Still unfortunate to hear what he had to say about Ahmedis. I personally know of an Ahmedi family who are hard core IK supporters and their Ahmedi relatives in Lahore are actively campaigning for PTI. Wonder what must be going through their minds after hearing his comments.

Personally, I advise all Ahmedis to leave Pakistan if they have the means to and settle in US, UK or other western countries where they can get the freedom of religion to practice their faith like they want to. There is sadly no place for them in Pakistan and I don't see that changing in the near future.

I think considering the mindset of majority in Pakistan, one should not be quick to judge a politician who is trying to slowly change the society. In a current scneario Imran had to say that otherwise he'll lose lot of voters. When it comes to the huge population you can not simply be upright and talk against majority. You have to win them over slowly. I believe if Imran is given power for 10-15 years then the mindset of society can be changed slowly by getting them rid of mullah's influence over the time.

Imran may well want qadiyanis to live and practice freely but for sure in current situation he can't take their side and a sensible qadiyani should understand this situation.

taq12345
5th May 2013, 17:49
Where can I find a map of Punjab Provincial Constituencies? ie which village/town/city falls in which constituency?

http://votermaps.appspot.com

karachiite
5th May 2013, 17:59
Qadianis have a big role in establishing Pti. Both UK and us chapters of PTI were headed by ahmedis

waqar goraya
5th May 2013, 18:20
Has anyone heard of postal ballot papers????

I have also heard though :P but do not know the details and procedure.....SO if any one has the information here???

Mystrey
5th May 2013, 18:21
all the burger bacha's be sleepin till 5PM.......and when they wake up, "Oye yaar neend ee bari aye thi to phir vote denay kaisay jaatay"

I don't get this hate for ''burger bachas''

Would it also be okay for PPers to start hating poor bachas too?

PTI
5th May 2013, 18:25
PTI supporters beaten up by police in Toba Tek Singh and stopped from going to jalsagah

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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:32
Already Posted by another insafian

Waseem
5th May 2013, 18:33
With their BRILLIANT performance, i wonder why do PM LN need to do this?
Puranay choron ko hera pheri chorna msuhkil hai

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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:41
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Instigating someone not to vote (in/directly) is punishable by 3 yrs under Sec. 171-J PPC. PTI voters should take Fazlu on for his fatwa.</p>&mdash; Babar Sattar (@Babar_Sattar) <a href="https://twitter.com/Babar_Sattar/status/331033024969994240">May 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:49
This is GEO News fake fotage of Shehbaz Jalsa yesterday

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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:53
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>WILL N SETHI PL EXPLAIN? @<a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi">najamsethi</a>Why is police beating PTI workers in TobaTekSingh. Show ur neutrality OR show us what PTI did wrong??</p>&mdash; SHAHEEN SEHBAI (@SSEHBAI1) <a href="https://twitter.com/SSEHBAI1/status/331033105605488641">May 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:56
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Waseem
5th May 2013, 18:57
Toba Tek Singh

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PTI
5th May 2013, 18:58
PTI IN JHANG

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Waseem
5th May 2013, 18:59
Khushab

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PTI
5th May 2013, 19:00
Police violently stopping PTI members to attend jalsa

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PTI
5th May 2013, 19:03
Just on lighter note : PIA k pass utny jahaz nai hain jitny mian sb pechly 1 week main airport bnwa diy hain - develpmnt policy ? :p

Pak_Jazba
5th May 2013, 19:15
Police violently stopping PTI members to attend jalsa

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Any idea what measures PTI is taking against such issues where PML Nonsense is forcingly taking votes from people?