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Markhor
3rd April 2013, 18:32
ECP to include ‘None of the Above’ box in ballot papers

Foolish decision by the ECP - if you don't want to vote for any party, then don't vote at all. So tired of people, even here in the UK who moan and groan about the political parties - and brag about how they'll purposely ruin their ballot papers - nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to vote for any party, stay at home and don't bother, there are other people who actually do wish to exercise their right to vote.

Badsha
3rd April 2013, 18:36
Foolish decision by the ECP - if you don't want to vote for any party, then don't vote at all. So tired of people, even here in the UK who moan and groan about the political parties - and brag about how they'll purposely ruin their ballot papers - nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to vote for any party, stay at home and don't bother, there are other people who actually do wish to exercise their right to vote.

Are you serious?

This decision is excellent. A lot of parties (MQM, local khans) force people to vote for them. This way, when they go inside they can just tick the "none of the above" box.

Kianig89
3rd April 2013, 18:40
Foolish decision by the ECP - if you don't want to vote for any party, then don't vote at all. So tired of people, even here in the UK who moan and groan about the political parties - and brag about how they'll purposely ruin their ballot papers - nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to vote for any party, stay at home and don't bother, there are other people who actually do wish to exercise their right to vote.

Yup this none of the above only makes sense if it leads to re-elections i.e. the candidates should be withdrawn/replaced by others. lets say if the person A gets 10,000 votes and B gets 8,000 and None of the Above are 15,000 then what will happen, if B wins then what is the purpose of this None of the above. Ideally in this situation re-election on that seat should be held with the rule that parties have to change their candidate.

0tt0man
3rd April 2013, 18:42
Are you serious?

This decision is excellent. A lot of parties (MQM, local khans) force people to vote for them. This way, when they go inside they can just tick the "none of the above" box.
They could always put an unstamped ballot paper in the box you know.

Stupid decision by the ECP. Not that it would cost anyone but I fail to understand the wisdom behind it.

Markhor
3rd April 2013, 18:44
Are you serious?

This decision is excellent. A lot of parties (MQM, local khans) force people to vote for them. This way, when they go inside they can just tick the "none of the above" box.

Sorry, just a side rant about idiots here in the UK. As for Pakistan, still a poor decision - if you don't want to vote, don't turn up. Regarding your scenario - ballot boxes still get stuffed and rigging can still occur, even if a NOTA choice has been made, then that can still be changed or even disregarded by corrupt officials working at the polling station. This won't stop rigging or forced voting. And this 51% scenario - so a candidate in a re-election will have to try to get a seat on the basis of 49% of the vote ? What kind of an electoral mandate is that ?

zimmz
3rd April 2013, 19:27
I think it's a correct decision. This way at least the turn out will be higher if people can actually go and stamp 'none from above'. In some cases if this option wins then I assume re-election would be needed.
Just throwing in unstamped ballot makes the vote invalid according to existing rules.

waqar goraya
3rd April 2013, 21:32
Shahbaz Sharif aka khadim-e-aala punjab mentions Politics as his profession in one of the nomination papers....:)))

PakistanPaindabad
3rd April 2013, 21:41
Foolish decision by the ECP - if you don't want to vote for any party, then don't vote at all. So tired of people, even here in the UK who moan and groan about the political parties - and brag about how they'll purposely ruin their ballot papers - nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to vote for any party, stay at home and don't bother, there are other people who actually do wish to exercise their right to vote.

None of the above is required to stop election rigging. Election is rigged because people who dont vote - their votes are then cast in favor of the party or the candidate that is rigging that election..

If they come in and vote for none, that way their ID cant be used to rig the elections...

Its a great tactical move:misbah_old

Red Devil
3rd April 2013, 21:43
PTI official press release issued today at lahore says NA125 ticket has been given to mr hamid khan and PP 155 to hafiz farhat, which means i wont be contesting as PTI candidate in both the constituencies Sarfraz Cheema

WTH. Why haven't Cheema been given a Ticket????? :O

insaftak
3rd April 2013, 21:47
I support None of the above option. I wouldn't vote for few of PTI's candidates :) Give voters a choice

insaftak
3rd April 2013, 21:48
Sarfraz Cheema

WTH. Why haven't Cheema been given a Ticket????? :O

Good.

I have lost all respect for him. Not that I like Hamid Khan... I hate him for other reasons :)

srh
3rd April 2013, 21:51
None of the above is required to stop election rigging. Election is rigged because people who dont vote - their votes are then cast in favor of the party or the candidate that is rigging that election..

If they come in and vote for none, that way their ID cant be used to rig the elections...

Its a great tactical move:misbah_old
This.

amateurdentist
3rd April 2013, 22:05
NA-125 is a very important seat. it is the largest constituency in Lahore populationwise and PTI got a good chance of taking this seat because this seat includes defence nishat colony, Lahore Cantt. Educated middle class, army and elite live here so PTi can win if it gets these people out to vote However i have seen minimal PTI election Activity here while our ex-MNA Khawaja Saad Rafique has visited this are many times and PML-N is probably persuading/bribing as many voters as they can because Ive seen alot PML-N activists and advertisers here.
PTI need to push this silent majority out to vote on election day and they can easily clinch NA-125. I guess same goes for NA-126

Markhor
3rd April 2013, 22:15
None of the above is required to stop election rigging. Election is rigged because people who dont vote - their votes are then cast in favor of the party or the candidate that is rigging that election..

If they come in and vote for none, that way their ID cant be used to rig the elections...

Its a great tactical move:misbah_old

Maybe but even people who do to turn up to vote can have their votes manipulated - say a lot of illiterate people require help to vote - then the corrupt officials at the polling station actually help to record that person's vote for some other party, contrary to their intentions.

For example, a blind person or one who cannot read the language of the ballot paper may be told that they have voted for one party when in fact they have been led to vote for another.

Also say if NOTA wins in a seat outright - then a re-election has to be called in a few weeks time at taxpayer's expense. And then if NOTA wins again - then what ? ECP must clarify this.

And by definition why would you want to go to the polling station if you don't want to vote for any of the parties in the first place ?!

It is an utter waste of time for people to be queueing up all day outside the polling station, hot weather, standing up for hours etc. - only for people to go and vote NOTA. Cast your vote for change, don't waste it.

insaftak
3rd April 2013, 22:17
^^

I am willing to use tax payers money for a reelection if it means we get a better candidate to represent us in assemblies.

Markhor
3rd April 2013, 22:35
True but depends on whether ECP are making it mandatory for all parties to change their candidates if NOTA wins in a seat.

Kianig89
3rd April 2013, 23:13
Why aren't the big crocodiles being caught....Ch Nisar degree is approved by HEC.......

insaftak
3rd April 2013, 23:28
Dissappointed with PTI opposing Vote4None option.... Should have supported this!

0tt0man
3rd April 2013, 23:46
You guys seriously think people would wait in queues outside voting centres in intense heat just to put a stamp on the NotA option? :)
It won't bring any good nor bad. A useless publicity stunt by the ECP.

waqar_ahmad
3rd April 2013, 23:58
^ Agree with this, its a nothing change. ECP needs to focus on other more important issues, such as disqualifying tax evaders and load defaulters.

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
4th April 2013, 00:32
Rumors are Ch. Nisar and Ishaq Daar had a meeting with Musharaf at Chak Shahzad . Don't know how true.

insaftak
4th April 2013, 00:38
^^

NRO 2.

Nawaz Sharif, Musharaf and Kiyani Met Saudi King Abdullah a month ago.

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
4th April 2013, 00:43
^^

NRO 2.

Nawaz Sharif, Musharaf and Kiyani Met Saudi King Abdullah a month ago.

AFAIK - Saudis advised Musharraf against going to pakistan.

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 01:23
^ If that was the case, why have NS in that meeting?

The media has reported a deal being struck, and PMLN has been quiet about mushy's return. They have not said anything about imposing article 6 on mushy.

zimmz
4th April 2013, 04:49
Seems all those rumors of Lahore seats were not true.

For example Shafqat Mehmood hasn't got any ticket. Aleem Khan managed to get NA and PA ticket contrary to no ticket at all.

Here is the full list:

http://insaf.pk/Portals/0/NTForums_Attach/final-lahore.gif

zimmz
4th April 2013, 05:18
Also no ticket for Farooq Amjad Mir :/

GujjarSher
4th April 2013, 05:28
It is surprising that PML hasn't said much about Musharraf returning... conspiracy?

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 13:53
Tehreek-i-Insaf candidates for Lahore seats


The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) central parliamentary board has finalised its candidates for 13 National and 21 Provincial assembly seats in Lahore. The decision for selection of candidates for four provincial assembly seats is pending.

The Insaaf Lawyers Forum (ILF), which had conducted party`s intra-party elections spanning over six months, has completely been ignored. The ILF had forwarded its five candidates for general seats and two women lawyers for reserved seats from Lahore but none of them was accommodated by the party board, headed by party chief Imran Khan. PTI intra-party election commissioner ShadabH Jafri, who has been a party worker since 1996, has also been ignored. He had applied for PP147 seat.

According to CPB decisions, Imran Khan will be contesting from NA-122 against PML-N`s Sardar Ayaz Sadiq, against whom he had lost in 2002 elections by a margin of 18,893 votes from the same constituency.

The PTI board selected two NA and six PA seats candidates from amongst the youth. The constituencies are: NA-119, NA-121, PP137, PP140, PP142, PP143, PP155 and PP159.

The PTPs candidates for NA and their PA constituencies: Hamid Zaman (NA-118), MuhammadMadni (NA-119), Dr Yasmin Rashid (NA-120), Barrister Hammad Azhar (NA-121), Imran Khan (NA-122), Mian Hamid Meraj (NA-123), Waleed Iqbal (NA-124), Hamid Khan (NA-125), Mian Mahmoodur Rasheed (NA-126), Abdul Aleem Khan (NA-127), Chaudhry Mansha Sindhu (NA129) and Talib Sindhu (NA-130).

The board has allotted NA-128 constituency to Kholchar brothers Karamat Khokhar, Zaheer Abbas Khokhar and Sarfraz Khokhar and reportedly asked them to unanimously decide one candidate from among themselves.

The PTI`s PA candidates and their constituencies within the parenthesis are: Engineer YasirGillani (PP-137), Mian Mahmood Ahmad (PP-138), Chaudhry Asghar Gujjar (PP-139), Zubair Niazi (PP140), Nawaz Natt (PP-141), Malik Waqar Ahmad (PP-142), Atif Chaudhry (PP-143), Muhammad Yameen Tipu (PP-144), Mian Iftikhar (PP-145), Jamshald Iqbal Cheema (PP-146), Abdul Aleem Khan (PP-147), Ejaz Ahmad Chaudhry (PP-148), Mian Akram Usman (PP-149), Sheikh Imtiaz Mahmood (PP-150), Haji Fayyaz (PP-151), Dr Murad Raas (PP-152), Hafiz Farhat Abbas (PP-155), Ahsan Rasheed (PP-156), Hamid Sarwar (PP-157), Tahir Majeed Meo (PP-158) and Malik Nawaz Awan (PP-159).

The decision for party candi-dates for PP-153, PP-154, PP-160 and PP-161 is pending. It is learnt that PTI Lahore president Abdul Aleem Khan has been authorised to finalise candidates for PP-153 and PP-154 as they fall under his NA-127 constituency.

Party officials told Dawn that the PTI board had selected NA and PP seats candidates in a manner that it could ask its two to three NA and four or five PA candidates to withdraw in case of seat adjustment with the Jamaat-i-Islami.

ILF: The Insaaf Lawyers Forum has expressed its strong resentment against the board for ignoring lawyers in the distribution of party tickets. The forum has announced holding protestsall over Punjab.

Itis learnt that the PTI CPB has also ignored intra-party election commissioner Punjab Shadab H Jafri, who worked day in and day out to conduct intra-party elections in a fair and transparent manner.

Mr Jafri is PTPs old guard and has been working for the party since 1996 and had contested general election from PP-147 in 2002 general elections. The party selected PTI Lahore president Abdul Aleem Khan for PP-147 besides NA-127.

It is learnt that the party CPB has also ignored party`s veteran worker Omer Sarfraz Cheema, tsunami change group`s convener Umer Zaheer Meer and another leader Ibrarul Haq.

asifp
4th April 2013, 15:01
Tehreek-i-Insaf candidates for Lahore seats


I don't know what PTI is doing!. So many people that worked hard for years are being ignored, and people that joined 6 months ago are getting tickets. Don't defeat yourself!

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 15:10
I don't know what PTI is doing!. So many people that worked hard for years are being ignored, and people that joined 6 months ago are getting tickets. Don't defeat yourself!

But at the same time they are fulfilling their promise of 25 percent tickets to youth...

I think they have considered the winning capabilities of candidates as well ...As i do see here some influencial people with dodgy past as well..

spinDoc
4th April 2013, 15:37
@insaftak

Do u know the number of TRK, IK was looking for 1million , last I heard it was around 75000.

Waseem
4th April 2013, 16:24
I don't know what PTI is doing!. So many people that worked hard for years are being ignored, and people that joined 6 months ago are getting tickets. Don't defeat yourself!

I see where you are coming from but sometimes if you have a candidate who has clean record, is recommended by local body and better winning capability then you are hardly left with any choice. I still think Farooq Amjad Meer, Umar Cheema etc should have got provincial assembly tickets at least.

At the same time, i have seen lot of youngsters being given chances ignoring experienced electables so they have to sacrifice somewhere.

Waseem
4th April 2013, 16:43
Jamshed Dasti imprisoned for 3 years, got arrested from the court (Left the court crying)

I actually feel sorry for him as he was real representative of poor people and worked for people day and night. Justice served in the end but still sad.

Waseem
4th April 2013, 16:45
ISF Central President Farrukh Habib will contest election on PTI ticket from NA-83 Faisalabad.
Ticket confirmed.

0tt0man
4th April 2013, 18:14
Jamshed Dasti imprisoned for 3 years, got arrested from the court (Left the court crying)

I actually feel sorry for him as he was real representative of poor people and worked for people day and night. Justice served in the end but still sad.
I was reading the other day he came on a donkey cart to submit his nomination papers :yk
He got what he deserved in the end. You always pay for cheating or using short-cuts.

I heard Ayaz Amir had his nomination papers rejected as well. Does it mean he can't compete at all or is there a chance?

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 18:19
^ Depends on why he got the nomination papers rejected. But usually it means you're out.

Reasons for rejection?

asifp
4th April 2013, 18:41
I was reading the other day he came on a donkey cart to submit his nomination papers :yk
He got what he deserved in the end. You always pay for cheating or using short-cuts.

I heard Ayaz Amir had his nomination papers rejected as well. Does it mean he can't compete at all or is there a chance?

yes, but the degree rule is absurd. Basically we are telling 90% of the people that you cannot be MNA cause life did not give you a chance to get a college decree.

Tax evasion, loan defaulting, utility bills non payment is a crime, but not having a degree, I mean come on.

Most discriminatory law and against basic principles of equality for all.

Red Devil
4th April 2013, 18:43
I heard Ayaz Amir had his nomination papers rejected as well. Does it mean he can't compete at all or is there a chance?

Yes Ayaz Amir's papers got rejected on some Column that he wrote :)))

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 18:43
yes, but the degree rule is absurd. Basically we are telling 90% of the people that you cannot be MNA cause life did not give you a chance to get a college decree.

Tax evasion, loan defaulting, utility bills non payment is a crime, but not having a degree, I mean come on.

Most discriminatory law and against basic principles of equality for all.

Nobody is telling 90% of the people that they cannot be MNAs.

But they are being told that they cant cheat to be MNAs. You can say you dont have a degree and you will be allowed to contest the elections. The problem is that these guys faked their degrees. There is a difference

asifp
4th April 2013, 18:47
Nobody is telling 90% of the people that they cannot be MNAs.

But they are being told that they cant cheat to be MNAs. You can say you dont have a degree and you will be allowed to contest the elections. The problem is that these guys faked their degrees. There is a difference

I agree with you saying that faking degree is a crime.

All I am saying that law requiring MNAs to have a degree is discriminatory. If this absurd law was not there, there would be no reason to fake degrees.

90% of Pakistan does not have degrees which means they cannot be in the NA.

Red Devil
4th April 2013, 18:53
Just heard on TV 5 PTI members returned their tickets to the party!

asifp
4th April 2013, 18:57
I see where you are coming from but sometimes if you have a candidate who has clean record, is recommended by local body and better winning capability then you are hardly left with any choice. I still think Farooq Amjad Meer, Umar Cheema etc should have got provincial assembly tickets at least.

At the same time, i have seen lot of youngsters being given chances ignoring experienced electables so they have to sacrifice somewhere.

But Waseem yaar, Does Imran Khan really need 5 tickets and SMQ and Hashmi need 4. If each of the big shots giveup one of their extra tickets, that can help the situation as well.

Lots of PTI workers are going to be left very disappointed after this process.

Badsha
4th April 2013, 18:59
To be honest, if someone didn't have the resource to get a degree, I wouldn't want him to be a part of the decision making in this country. Besides, it's not as if they don't have degrees. they are/were lying about it

zimmz
4th April 2013, 19:02
All I am saying that law requiring MNAs to have a degree is discriminatory. If this absurd law was not there, there would be no reason to fake degrees.


FYI there i no law any more that requires a degree for being MNA. The law was added by Musharaf and taken down in 2010. Still when some law is made, we ought to follow it and not fake through it. Those who did are getting punished and it's fair, irrespective of their social standing, poor or rich (although we still have to see if this current wave of punishment impact the powerful person in noon and PPP or not).

Markhor
4th April 2013, 19:02
Should ban candidates from standing in more than one constituency - one person - one seat.

Red Devil
4th April 2013, 19:06
LAHORE: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf’s (PTI) candidates from Lahore returned their tickets in protest against the “unjust allotment” of tickets by the party’s central parliamentary board,Express News reported on Thursday.


The candidates who returned the tickets included PTI Lahore chapter president Abdul Aleem Khan and Jamshed Iqbal Cheema.
Aleem Khan was awarded the NA-124 and PP-127 tickets which he returned.
The candidates claimed that they had received tickets for themselves but most of the other party members recommended to the central parliamentary committee were ignored.
They have also announced they will not contest the elections from the PTI.
Gulberg Town President Naveed Chauhan and Aziz Bhatti Town President Haji Sadiq have submitted their written resignations to Aleem Khan over the issue.
The central parliamentary committee will again allot party tickets to candidates in Lahore.
Aleem Khan had earlier recommended candidates [for national and provincial assemblies] from each constituency in Lahore.
Among them were Shoaib Siddiqui, Nazeer Chohan, Nasrullah Mughal, Mian Javed Ali, Irshad Dogar, Zulqarnain Taj, Farrukh Javed Moon, Abdul Rasheed Bhatti, Jamil Asghar Bhatti and Sardar Kamil Umer.
PTI’s central information secretary had said that most of the names recommended by the Lahore chapter were rejected because the party had decided to award tickets on merit.
Most of the candidates were in real estate business and favoured by Aleem Khan for that reason, a party leader seeking anonymity told The Express Tribune.
Following are the names and constituencies of candidates who returned their tickets:
Hamid Sarwar – PP-145
Hamid Mairaj – NA-123
Chaudhry Talib – NA-130
Jamshed Iqbal Cheema – PP-146
Yameen Tipu – PP-144
‘Tickets not allotted yet’
PTI central information secretary Shafqat Mehmood told The Express Tribune that the party has not issued any ticket to candidates in Lahore and only the names have been finalised by the central parliamentary board.
The tickets will be awarded to the selected candidates on April 8, Mehmood added.
He also maintained that Aleem Khan and Cheema were trying to put pressure on the party by using such tactics.

Abdul Aleem Khan should not have gotten the ticket in the first place

zimmz
4th April 2013, 19:07
Lots of PTI workers are going to be left very disappointed after this process.

There will always be and in all parties.

These disappointed folks should realize that if they are not selected on merit then accept it.
Imagine if IK or SMQ who are more likely to win give there seat to these disappointed one who have little chance to win, PTI will have reduce chances to form a gov.

Besides it's not that IK will keep all the won seats, he can't by law. So after election the disappointed workers will have a chance to contest on the 'maal-e-ghanimat' seats from IK, SMQ. That way they have more chances actually to become MNA or MPA.

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 19:08
I agree with you saying that faking degree is a crime.

All I am saying that law requiring MNAs to have a degree is discriminatory. If this absurd law was not there, there would be no reason to fake degrees.

90% of Pakistan does not have degrees which means they cannot be in the NA.

The law was absurd, but it was a law. You cant fake it to become legislators, no matter what.

These people are being rightly punished

Next in line, Sh Waqas Akram

the Great Khan
4th April 2013, 19:09
Just watxhin ary news..lots of hula gula in lahore for pti..peeps not happy ..

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 19:20
Just watxhin ary news..lots of hula gula in lahore for pti..peeps not happy ..

Who's not happy?

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 19:20
Ijaz Cheema, another PMLN guy disqualified for fake degree :))

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 19:24
Faisal Saleh Hayat and Abid Imam's papers rejected! This is huge!!

Red Devil
4th April 2013, 19:24
Faisal Saleh Hayat Nomination papers rejected. :)))


Loving this from ECP :)))

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 20:38
Former N league MNA from Gujranwala Barrister Usman Ibrahim's papers were also rejected yesterday..

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 20:42
PTI workers clash over party tickets in Quetta


Workers of the Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) clashed with each other at the Quetta Press Club during distribution of party tickets for the upcoming elections in Balochistan.

PTI Balochistan President Qasim Soori was addressing a press conference when his opponents stood up on their seats. Soori’s opponents inside PTI blamed him for awarding tickets to his favourites for the general elections for the national and provincial assemblies in Balochistan.

“Soori was disqualified by court, we do not accept him,” Asif Tareen, a local leader of PTI told Dawn.com.

The PTI workers also exchanged hot words with each other. However, the situation got under control following the involvement of PTI workers who averted a major clash.

Police were called to ensure peace in the aftermath of the clash.

The incident came two days after a PML-N activist, Sakina Mengal, made a failed attempt at self-immolation, also at the Quetta Press Club.

http://dawn.com/2013/04/04/pti-workers-clash-over-party-tickets-in-quetta/

insaftak
4th April 2013, 21:23
This Election is Fun!!!

Big Powerful Wicket falling all around. Severe Headaches for all leaders including Imran Khan. Tabdeeli Aa Nai Rahi Tabdeel Aa Chuki hai :)

Sad about Ayaz AMir though!

0tt0man
4th April 2013, 21:28
They have the right to appeal in front of an ECP tribunal which will surely overturn their disqualification.
I'm not too thrilled tbh.

insaftak
4th April 2013, 21:43
@ImranKhanPTI 1m
I have faith in r ppl so I simply opened my gate & spoke 2 PTI's angry but dedicated workers protesting outside. Mutual trust reinforced!

:)

Bashira_taeli
4th April 2013, 21:47
This Election is Fun!!!

Big Powerful Wicket falling all around. Severe Headaches for all leaders including Imran Khan. Tabdeeli Aa Nai Rahi Tabdeel Aa Chuki hai :)

Sad about Ayaz AMir though!

Twitterati up in flames about it. Cant remember the last time left was so ******...maybe when Gillani was sacked.

insaftak
4th April 2013, 21:48
PTI Lahore GS Rasheed Bhatti's basic membership suspended :14: :14: :14:

one down one more to go :)

insaftak
4th April 2013, 21:49
Twitterati up in flames about it. Cant remember the last time left was so ******...maybe when Gillani was sacked.

Yup.

NAB says Shehbaz Sharif is a loan defaulter


HAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!

insaftak
4th April 2013, 21:52
RS 3846 Million Default by Shehbaz Sharif.

Kitnay bantay hain yeh? :P

asifp
4th April 2013, 21:55
All these people going down for Fake Degrees.

Am shocked no one yet gone because of Tax evasion or Loan defaults.

BTW is is true that if you have a stay order since 1990 you won't be considered a defaulter? So even if you have not paid back for 20 years it is fine. If that is true than the ECP is a joke. Have just heard it, not sure. Anyone in Pakistan can get a stay order!

Runner Up
4th April 2013, 21:58
Shahbaz Sharif is Rs.3846 (M) Bank Defaulter [NAB]

Geo News: National Accountability Bureau (NAB) has claimed that the former CM Punjab is Rs.3846 (M) defaulter and sent his name to the Election Commission.

If it’s true, then this will be a big test for the Election Commission and Judiciary.

Badsha
4th April 2013, 22:00
RS 3846 Million Default by Shehbaz Sharif.

Kitnay bantay hain yeh? :P

38260 Lakh rupees.

3.8 Arab I believe

asifp
4th April 2013, 22:01
http://tribune.com.pk/story/531090/imran-khan-sheikh-rashid-agree-to-help-each-other-for-rawalpindi-seats/

ISLAMABAD: In what could be a telling move, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has ensured his party’s support to the Awami Muslim League chief Sheikh Rashid during the upcoming elections.
The assurance came after a meeting between the PTI chairman and the AML chief on Thursday.
Both the leaders agreed that the PTI would assist Sheikh Rashid in NA-55, Rawalpindi during the upcoming general elections. In return, Rashid will support Imran Khan for NA-56, Rawalpindi. Moreover, the PTI chief said that he will deliver a speech during Sheikh Rashid’s election rally in NA-55.
Rashid assured that his party workers will continue their support to PTI candidates across the country.
Both leaders then discussed the prevalent political situation, and other intricate details pertaining to seat adjustment and a joint political campaign in Rawalpindi.
Neither party, however, has yet to announce details of any seat adjustment in other parts of the country.


Very interesting. I remember few years back Khan Sahab saying on TV "Meri Allah se dua ke hai mujhe kabhee Sheikh Rasheed jaisa politican na banae" haha. Anyways I like this move. Shekho as MAN would mean some entertainment.

Kianig89
4th April 2013, 22:22
Just hope all those whose papers have been rejected the decision remains after appeal as well also some more big crocodiles should be rejected........by the way faisal Saleh hayat's paper rejected becuase there is a parcha on him regarding theft of water......

Badsha
4th April 2013, 22:24
I hope some BIG N-league walas get caught up in this.

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 22:59
NAB objects to Sharif brothers’ candidacy over Hudaibiya Mills case


The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Thursday objected to the candidature of Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif in the upcoming general elections over alleged scam of Hudaibiya Paper Mills, a senior NAB official told Dawn.Com.

The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Punjab president and the former chief minister, along with his brother PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif, are accused in the Rs3,486 million loan default case.

They have been accused of accumulating money and assets beyond their declared means of income by misusing authority. The case was filed with the Attock NAB Court on March 27, 2000.

Abbas Sharif, Hussain Nawaz, Hamza Shahbaz, Shamim Akhtar, Sabiha Abbas, Maryam Safdar and Ishaq Dar are other accused in the case.

The bureau has conveyed its recommendations to the election commission in this regard.

The NAB had set up election cells to help the election commission in the scrutiny of candidates for the May 11 elections. The decision to establish the cells was taken at a meeting held on Feb 20.

The meeting, presided over by Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) Fakharuddin G. Ebrahim, was attended by heads of NAB, Federal Bureau of Revenue (FBR), State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) and National Database Registration Authority (Nadra).

The meeting had decided that the ECP, with the help of relevant organisations, will identify tax-evaders, loan and utility bill defaulters and beneficiaries of written-off loans to prevent them from contesting polls

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:03
Now,we will see what happens to loan defaulters....

I reckon nothing will happen..

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:09
I can notice usage of words alleged,accused etc in news.....

Certainly a lot more potent case than water theft cases or false declaration of assets

insaftak
4th April 2013, 23:16
Agli Baar koi Election contest he nai karay Ga :)))

HAHAHAHA. I am enjoying this. Finally some transparency.. we still need to do a lot of work to clean the system.

mnoman15
4th April 2013, 23:18
I agree with you saying that faking degree is a crime.

All I am saying that law requiring MNAs to have a degree is discriminatory. If this absurd law was not there, there would be no reason to fake degrees.

90% of Pakistan does not have degrees which means they cannot be in the NA.

That rule of holding degree is no more valid.

But in last election under Mush, it was valid and these guys faked degrees at that time ....

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:19
RS 3846 Million Default by Shehbaz Sharif.

Kitnay bantay hain yeh? :P

its 3486 according to dawn news...which is equal to 3.486 billions....mtlb 3 arab,48 carore and 60 lakh ONLY

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:24
That rule of holding degree is no more valid.

But in last election under Mush, it was valid and these guys faked degrees at that time ....

Yep,they are facing court cases for fraud and trickery..

saadibaba
4th April 2013, 23:25
What's with Ayaz Amir's nomination papers being rejected....thats just ridiculous. The charge is that he wrote against the ideology of Pakistan......WTH, what does that really mean ! This is just pure and simple witch-hunting.

waqar_ahmad
4th April 2013, 23:27
Agli Baar koi Election contest he nai karay Ga :)))

HAHAHAHA. I am enjoying this. Finally some transparency.. we still need to do a lot of work to clean the system.

Certainly fun to watch this unfold.

But I'm a bit nervous about Imran's papers, given how ridiculous 62 and 63 are

insaftak
4th April 2013, 23:28
^^

Koi nai khair hai...

I will take Imran Khan's disqualification if it means we get clean and honest candidates :)

cricguru
4th April 2013, 23:31
I wonder what will happen to Rehman Malik when he will be asked to recite Quran or Verse

:)

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:33
Certainly fun to watch this unfold.

But I'm a bit nervous about Imran's papers, given how ridiculous 62 and 63 are

Objection has been raised against Imran for the reason that he had himself admitted indulging in gambling in his own book..

asifp
4th April 2013, 23:36
Objection has been raised against Imran for the reason that he had himself admitted indulging in gambling in his own book..

yes that part is crazy around "good moral character"

I mean come on.

I dont care if you drink, gamble, are a womaniser, that is your personal choice.

as long as you are a good administrator,

waqar goraya
4th April 2013, 23:42
yes that part is crazy around "good moral character"

I mean come on.

I dont care if you drink, gamble, are a womaniser, that is your personal choice.

as long as you are a good administrator,

Perhaps you are completely unfamiliar with article 62 & 63 brought by Zia...

It demands candidate to have a good understanding with Islam,should believe in Islamic Ideology of Pakistan and should have a good moral and personal character in addition to other requirements

:facepalm: all of these requirements are quite subjective.....

insaftak
4th April 2013, 23:44
This is What happens When two biggest Parties of Pakistan decide to protect their interests instead of looking out for People of Pakistan.

The Price of NooraKhusti and MukMuka!

Runner Up
5th April 2013, 00:31
Now NAB is denying the reports about Shahbaz Sharif.

PakistanPaindabad
5th April 2013, 00:32
its 3486 according to dawn news...which is equal to 3.486 billions....mtlb 3 arab,48 carore and 60 lakh ONLY

the famous Hudaibiiya mills case

when one of their own (Ishaq Dar) testified against the Sharif brothers:

http://archives.dawn.com/archives/35094

waqar goraya
5th April 2013, 00:38
the famous Hudaibiiya mills case

when one of their own (Ishaq Dar) testified against the Sharif brothers:

http://archives.dawn.com/archives/35094

wo mukar gaya hai.....He says he testified under pressure

Runner Up
5th April 2013, 00:42
PTI's Jehangir Tareen is also a Bank Defaulter. State Bank

40 karor 70 lac that is.

insaftak
5th April 2013, 01:10
^^

No default?

‏@mosharrafzaidi 14m
On bank loans by PTI leader Jahangir Tareen. RT @frooq: owing and getting them written off are two separate issues no?

waqar goraya
5th April 2013, 01:20
Written off means bad debt..? :13:

Runner Up
5th April 2013, 01:59
lol @ PTI jiyaalas

insaftak
5th April 2013, 02:07
I Support banning all defaulters.

youboy
5th April 2013, 02:13
Dr. Shahid Masood

This will be most RIGGED elections in the history of Pakistan ever.

"Unknown people" have come in govt. & bureaucracy.

This EC is putting dust in public eyes. It is highly politicized & sold out ECP.

Media helping the corrupt elite (Ex-govt., bureaucracy, EC & interim govt. etc) is also part of this DUST, diverting people's attention from the real issues:

- Where is the accountability of Billions of Dollars looted in this 5 years ???
- What's the directives of EC/Bureaucracy to cope with terrorism during elections ???
- NRO case was judged by judiciary and verdict was given. Where is the implementation ???
- Similarly there are too many other issues.

This is an NRO-2. Musharraf return is the part of it & with consensus with PMLN.

Waves of Arab spring / Disturbance in Middle East (which was started with the Invasion on Iraq & ending up to Syrian Crisis) & Sectarian exploitations are also coming to Pakistan.

This is a border-less world now. US, UK & Arab Stooges are behind this NRO-2.

In Pakistan, there were similar crisis just when NRO-1 was being done in 2007.

(I've broke the news about NRO-1 but all people blamed me of lies).

The current govt. of 2008 was decided in NRO-1.

Elections2008 was just the dust in the eye.

Similarly there is similar crisis during this NRO-2 in 2013.

Political alliances & people traveling from one party to other is the part of this.

Media is profiting too much by helping the rigging of elections.

It is creating the hype that democracy has been strengthen.

First time Civilian to Civilian transition of power is being carried out.

Fake degree issues is also a drama being played to divert people from NRO-2.

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cricketworm
5th April 2013, 02:51
Imagine an election decision taken by cricket tourny between PTI PML and all other P's and M's etc.

You know who is going to win for sure! :D

srh
5th April 2013, 03:06
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/03-Apr-2013/-drunk-mqm-applicant-for-na-95-arrested


GUJRANWALA - The MQM candidate from NA-95 was arrested by the police on the order of a returning officer over the suspicion of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs during scrutiny of the former’s nomination papers, it is learnt.

Earlier, Abdul Karim alias Tokay Khan visited the office of Returning Officer Rao Abdul Jabbar for scrutiny. The medical samples have been sent to Lahore for analysis. However, the MQM candidate said that he was ill.

Saudi
5th April 2013, 03:30
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/03-Apr-2013/-drunk-mqm-applicant-for-na-95-arrested

:))) :))) :))) I don't agree with the draconian measures being taken by ECP but fair enough, this guy was taking the #£$% if this story is true.

amateurdentist
5th April 2013, 03:55
ECP is rejecting papers of people from ALL parties which is good.
And Regardless of the fact that articles 62 and 63 are not ideal(Ayaz Amir rejection is wierd), this is the first time something like this happened AFAIK.
And they are also p**ing off the right people(As most of the candidates who filed their papers are probably corrupt) and also dr. Shahid masood has reacted strangly to it in his program with allegations of poll rigging. Media must be going crazy
As to what is really happening, in pakistani politics we never know, So we can only pray for a free and fair election(and Vote Ofcourse)

A little worried about the PTI divisions (reappearing from intra part election days maybe) And SMQ not naming any party against his name.

cricketworm
5th April 2013, 04:12
So who is winning in the polls so far?

Down2Earth
5th April 2013, 04:40
So who is winning in the polls so far?

the better question would be to ask if anyone would be eligible to contest the election :iqasim

cricketworm
5th April 2013, 04:48
the better question would be to ask if anyone would be eligible to contest the election :iqasim

Online everywhere I see is flooded by PTI! But then again, most voters of Pakistan don't have internet? :asif

What is the talk in local Jamaat? I think that's accurate Poll than online polls.

amateurdentist
5th April 2013, 05:03
So who is winning in the polls so far?

Well i think most analysts are predicting that PML-N will win most seats in the elections, however some analysts like hasan nisar are saying that PTI will win punjab with a majority(very optimistic most people would say). In pakistani parliament whoever wins punjab usually forms the government.(punjab has 140ish seats out of 272 directly elected 1 think)
The thing is it is very difficult to predict our elections for variety of reasons.
We dont know how free and fair they will be. Many analysts are predicting a bloody election(God forbid).
Also you have to remember, unlike india this is the first time we are been given a choice to approve/disapprove a previously elected parliament. So hopefully voter turnout is expected to be high(also given the numerous problems of inflation, loadshedding, and very little law and order, security etc) Usually voter turn is in the 25-35% region. If we can get it to 60-70% some statusquo parties are going to be shocked.
Apart from security there is also another worrying sign and that is that election commision has declared 39 million+ unregistered voters out of 80 million some time back on their website(www.ecp.gov.pk) itself. Dont know if that is resolved.
Also most previous voters in pakistan vote on a variety of reasons based on caste,religion, tribal afiliations, honest canditdate, party support, even food distributed on election day. the new registered voters are mostly PTI suporters.
And also there are alot of twists and turns to come leading upto election day. So predicting this pakistan election isnot easy.
Assesing PTIs chances are difficult for obvious reasons of the unpredictable elections. Their strong bases are KhyberPakhtunkhwa and punjab with some succcesshopefully in balouchistan. So far there isvery little penetration into sindh and karachi. but still time is there.Fata may be a worry coz some people say JUI-F is gna do well there(corrupt "mullahs")
The difference this time is that we actually have a third party to vote for. It does have flaws but leader is as Honest,intelligent,charismatic as any. I mean other party heads are no comparison to him. Also there a lot of good honest intelligent candidates who have been selected by PTI
So this time for pakistan we simply have to give him a chance and start criticizing when he actually sits in parliament(hopefully as Prime Minister or atleast Minority Leader)

Down2Earth
5th April 2013, 05:09
Online everywhere I see is flooded by PTI! But then again, most voters of Pakistan don't have internet? :asif

What is the talk in local Jamaat? I think that's accurate Poll than online polls.

don't go by internet polls, they mean very little when it comes to pakistan. the majority still votes for those that they've been voting for from the start i.e those that their elders vote for.

cricketworm
5th April 2013, 06:13
Well i think most analysts are predicting that PML-N will win most seats in the elections, however some analysts like hasan nisar are saying that PTI will win punjab with a majority(very optimistic most people would say). In pakistani parliament whoever wins punjab usually forms the government.(punjab has 140ish seats out of 272 directly elected 1 think)
The thing is it is very difficult to predict our elections for variety of reasons.
We dont know how free and fair they will be. Many analysts are predicting a bloody election(God forbid).
Also you have to remember, unlike india this is the first time we are been given a choice to approve/disapprove a previously elected parliament. So hopefully voter turnout is expected to be high(also given the numerous problems of inflation, loadshedding, and very little law and order, security etc) Usually voter turn is in the 25-35% region. If we can get it to 60-70% some statusquo parties are going to be shocked.
Apart from security there is also another worrying sign and that is that election commision has declared 39 million+ unregistered voters out of 80 million some time back on their website(www.ecp.gov.pk) itself. Dont know if that is resolved.
Also most previous voters in pakistan vote on a variety of reasons based on caste,religion, tribal afiliations, honest canditdate, party support, even food distributed on election day. the new registered voters are mostly PTI suporters.
And also there are alot of twists and turns to come leading upto election day. So predicting this pakistan election isnot easy.
Assesing PTIs chances are difficult for obvious reasons of the unpredictable elections. Their strong bases are KhyberPakhtunkhwa and punjab with some succcesshopefully in balouchistan. So far there isvery little penetration into sindh and karachi. but still time is there.Fata may be a worry coz some people say JUI-F is gna do well there(corrupt "mullahs")
The difference this time is that we actually have a third party to vote for. It does have flaws but leader is as Honest,intelligent,charismatic as any. I mean other party heads are no comparison to him. Also there a lot of good honest intelligent candidates who have been selected by PTI
So this time for pakistan we simply have to give him a chance and start criticizing when he actually sits in parliament(hopefully as Prime Minister or atleast Minority Leader)

Thanks for reply. I was talking with few Pakistanis in December, they were also saying Nawaz Sharif party might win. And some were saying PTI will win, well he was a ****** of IK. Personally, whoever comes, I think random blasts that were/are here and there should and I am hopeful that it will stop. Because my conspiracy theory tells me that some groups don't like the current party and they are showing their anger by doing these blasts.

So, I hope this election gets over asap!

Good Luck Pakistan!

spinDoc
5th April 2013, 13:23
Just saw live with Talat (nowshera) seems like a lot of problems in PTI there ,workers not happy with ticket allotment.I hope this is sorted cause this could be bad news .same thing in manshera pti workers not happy there as well.

Badshah is from nowshera maybe he can throw some light on it.

waqar goraya
5th April 2013, 13:43
Tickets to "outsiders" PTI elected members fuming with anger


The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf, Lahore, elected members on Thursday revolted against party`s Central Parliamentary Board`s (CPB) controversial decision of awarding tickets `to outsiders and non-elected persons` for national and provincial assembly seats in the city.

About a dozen PTI candidates nominated for provincial and national assembly seats announced returning their party tickets in protest to express their unity with the elected members from 10 towns in Lahore, who were ignored.

PTI central information secretary Shafgat Mahmood said no candidate had so far been granted party ticket and the final list of candidates would be issued after scrutiny on April 8. `Everybody has a right to protest and appeal against any wrong decision, he said.

PTI Lahore district president Abdul Aleem Khan also announced returning party tickets issued to him for NA127 and PP-147. He said PTI must adhere to its slogan that `party members will elect their leaders`. He said the party`s CPB did not honour the recommendations of the Lahore District Parliamentary Board and reshuffled candidates like `public servants` Those, who have announced returning party tickets, include Mian Hamid Meraj (NA-123), Talib Sindhu (NA-130), Muhammad Yameen Tipu (PP-144), Mian Iftikhar (PP-145), Jamshaid Iqbal Cheema (PP-146), Hamid Sarwar (PP-157) and others.

The CPB`s announcement of party tickets for Lahore national and provincial assem-bly seats drew strong resentment on Thursday and all elected representatives from towns and district level approached Lahore district president Aleem Khan at The Mall office and recorded their protest. It is learnt that the elected representatives stated that the party`s CPB did not consider the genuine elected leaders and gave party tickets to outsiders and non-elected persons.

Most of Lahore town`s elected members said that they were shocked for being ignored. An elected representative from Lahore Cantt said that as many as eight candidates were recommended (to select from) for award of party ticket but all of them were ignored.

The visibly agitated elected leaders said the party had also awarded tickets to such candidates, who had not applied for. They protested against the award of tickets to different candidates including Hafiz Farhat Abbas (PP155), Haji Fayyaz (PP-151) and PTI intra-party chief election commissioner Hamid Khan (NA-125). It is learnt that Muhammad Madni was awarded ticket, though he did not want to contest election from NA-119.

They also stated that party`s workers and elected representatives including Shoaib Siddiqui and Farrukh Javed Moon were denied party tickets, while Jamshaid Iqbal Cheema was nominated for PA seat instead of MNA slot.

Talking to Dawn, Aleem Khan said the genuine party workers, who made thousands of people as PTI members and then won elections at union council, town and district levels, should not be ignored by the party leadership. `Theelected representatives are demanding their right and not begging for seats,` he asserted.

He regretted that the CPB had picked only one out of nine elected town presidents for party tickets in Lahore.

Aleem Khan strongly criticised the nomination of Hamid Khan (NA-125) and Hafiz Farhat Abbas (PP-155) stating that they were outsiders in the respective constituencies. He also lambasted Shafgat Mahmood for imposing decisions on elected representatives.

Expressing his dissatisfaction over CPB`s constitution, Aleem Khan said, a few leaders could not judge the true representatives in all constituencies in the country. `The respective district`s presidents, general secretaries as well as town presidents should be part of the meeting while deciding nominations for party tickets.

Meanwhile, a senior PTI leader requesting anonymity said party chief Imran Khan could not be blackmailed by negative tactics.

When contacted, Shafgat Mahmood said the protesters should follow a proper process of filing objections for redressal of their grievances.

He said the CPB was the final authority to recommend candidates across the country. He said the respective districts and provinces` parliamentary boards had recommended three candidates for each constituency.

Besides, he said, many candidates had also applied directly to the CPB for party tickets. `In almost 90 per cent cases, the CPB had picked candidates recommended by the districts and provinces` parliamentary boards,` he claimed.

waqar goraya
5th April 2013, 13:46
PTI leaders "oppose" seat adjustment with JI


It seems some key leaders of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) are against seat adjustment with the Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) and their opposition is stopping the two parties from reaching an agreement on seats despite last month`s talks between their party heads on this issue.

JI chief Syed Munawar Hasan and PTI chairman Imran Khan formed committees at provincial as well as national level on March 25 to finalise the seat adjustment plan for various constituencies, especially in Punjab.

`Mr Hasan met Mr Khan twice in recent days to discuss the seat adjustment issue, but still there is no progress on the issue,` says a JI official in Mansoora.

He said some PTI leaders were opposing their party`s plan for seat adjustment with the JI.

A PTI leader from southern Punjab said his party`s top three leaders were responsible for the delay in finalisation of the seat adjustment plan with the JI. `Three of our top party leaders from southern Punjab are against seat adjustment with the JI,` he said.

Talking to Dawn, Hasan said there was no progress on theseat adjustment issue after formation of committees by the two parties last month. `It is because of Javaid Hashmi who has yet to call a meeting of the committee, which was meant to discuss the seat adjustment plan at the national level,` Hasan said.

PTI information secretary Shafgat Mahmood said provincial leaders from both parties were in contact with each other on the seat adjustment issue.

He said the PTI had no ideological differences with the JI, but there was difference of opinion within his party on seat adjustment with the JI.

From Dawn News

the Great Khan
5th April 2013, 16:24
reading headlines that Mush's papers for kasur rejected..

this is becoming a tamasha! also the PTI really needs to work on intra party discipline..but heres hoping things work out in the end..

havent seen the above vids yet but if its NR0-2 then I assume its to favour the curent lot and the PMLN who will continue the yanks agenda. There seems to bea major push to ensure that people like cuptaan are dealt with once and for all!!

Down2Earth
5th April 2013, 17:02
Musharraf in serious trouble now

shehzi
5th April 2013, 17:08
Elections: Musharraf's nomination papers rejected

KASUR: Former president Pervez Musharraf’s nomination papers for NA-139 were rejected by the returning officer of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Friday, Express News reported.

His papers were rejected following six objections made by advocate Javed Kasuri.

One of the objections stated that the ex-general does not meet the criteria established in Article 62 and 63 of the constitution.

After hearing arguments, the returning officer declared Musharraf ineligible to contest the elections from NA-139.

The former president will be able to appeal the decision.

Musharraf had submitted his nomination papers from the constituency NA-139 Kasur and was planning to contest elections from other constituencies including Karachi, Islamabad and Chitral.

Supreme Court case

The Supreme Court has approved an application requesting action against Musharraf under Article 6 of the constitution.

The application stated that Musharraf is a traitor.

The case against him is based on imposing martial law on October 12, 1999 and enforcing emergency on November 3, 2007.

The hearing will commence on Monday under a three-member bench headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.

PML-N acts

The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz leader Ahsan Iqbal had filed an application in the ECP, earlier the same day, against former Musharraf.

Musharraf violated the constitution of Pakistan several times, alleged Iqbal.

Iqbal had requested the ECP to reject Musharraf’s papers and disqualify him from contesting the upcoming general elections.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/531486/musharraf-disqualified-from-contesting-elections/

Badsha
5th April 2013, 18:16
Just saw live with Talat (nowshera) seems like a lot of problems in PTI there ,workers not happy with ticket allotment.I hope this is sorted cause this could be bad news .same thing in manshera pti workers not happy there as well.

Badshah is from nowshera maybe he can throw some light on it.

Yep, some problems. All I know is I'm voting for PTI there.

HamzaSaeen
5th April 2013, 19:35
So who is winning in the polls so far?

Mark my words, it will be Meera, our answer to aishwarya rai :amin

spinDoc
5th April 2013, 20:06
Yep, some problems. All I know is I'm voting for PTI there.


so whats the problem? will it be sorted??

zimmz
5th April 2013, 20:21
Junooon at TRP in Lahore today:

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insaftak
5th April 2013, 21:40
LOL @ Elected officials of PTI at district levels. They want all tickets for their group and no tickets for the losing side. I am Glad Imran Khan is representing the losing side in PB.

Badsha
5th April 2013, 21:52
so whats the problem? will it be sorted??

Well this Parvez Khattak guy: People don't like him.

People are blaming him for giving tickets to his yes men in KPK rather than deserving men.



I am not fully aware of the situation though. As for it being sorted or not, time will tell. These problems always happen before elections.

insaftak
5th April 2013, 21:59
SMQ in Sindh!

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/58794_641767125850483_1343227018_n.jpg

Badsha
5th April 2013, 22:12
SMQ is battling the war of Sindh

insaftak
5th April 2013, 22:27
This has to be the most hilarious story :))) :)))

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waqar_ahmad
5th April 2013, 22:29
All of my excitement has toned down due to Imran's papers being challenged. He may very wel lbe disqualified. And Nawaz's papers were accepted even though he is a known defaulter.

zimmz
5th April 2013, 22:42
All of my excitement has toned down due to Imran's papers being challenged. He may very wel lbe disqualified. And Nawaz's papers were accepted even though he is a known defaulter.

No he won't! Sita white case was cleared by ECP judges in 2007. The outcome is still on ECP website.

Second accusation is dumb anyway. Imran didn't claim that he took part in gambling.

Besides I don't think ECP has guts to take on top leadership of any party. All topi drama going on these days regarding degrees and Islamic questions etc. Real challenge is to block defaulters, corrupt and other solid cases which ECP not gonna do.

insaftak
5th April 2013, 22:42
^^

You really think Imran Khan's paper would be rejected. I thought you have been following pakistani politics for a while now :P

ECP doesn't have balls to disqualify any of these big leaders sad fact. Anyways there are already alternative plans in place if Imran Khan is disqualified.

zimmz
5th April 2013, 22:44
LOL @ Elected officials of PTI at district levels. They want all tickets for their group and no tickets for the losing side. I am Glad Imran Khan is representing the losing side in PB.

I am glad that aleem khan group has exposed themselves (Mansha Sindhu openly telling his followers that he joined PTI for ticket and not for raising PTI flag around lahore). Hopefully IK and top leadership will watch that clip and kick these guys out.

Kianig89
5th April 2013, 22:58
This tamasha is being done by ECP to show that they are working very hard for elections...........but faisal raza abidi on Tv said elections can be delayed to a month or fornight..............AZ has his own plans.:P

Kianig89
5th April 2013, 23:00
Rauf Klasra ‏@KlasraRauf6h
Shahbaz sharif is rightly claims he is not bank deaulter becaz he uses LHC to stay against recovery of Rs4.5bn loan since 1998.What a joke!

Why 9 banks including NBP not asked to make comment on default of "House of Sharifs" to clear dust and expose role of LHC since 1998?
Above are the Tweets of Rauf Klasra

Will these Sharifs be ever caught.....in mardoodo se kab jaan chote gi

insaftak
5th April 2013, 23:16
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/files/shiamourning.jpg


Sectarian violence is raging in Pakistan, and some commentators are now describing the relentless assaults on Shia Muslims as genocide. Predictably, many observers fear that this unrest-coupled with a dangerous overall security situation-could delay Pakistan's May 11 national elections.

It's an understandable, yet ultimately misplaced, concern. As was recently pointed out, Pakistan has held elections under much more trying conditions-including one in Swat in 2008, during the height of the Pakistani Taliban's insurgency there.

Few commentators, however, are talking about another possible impact of sectarian strife on the elections: Shias-roughly 20 percent of the Pakistani population-mobilizing en masse to vote the ruling political party out of power.

Their motivations would be obvious. Shias-like Ahmadis, Christians, and other religious minorities in Pakistan-are incensed at the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) for failing to protect them, and for taking no meaningful action against those who terrorize them. In the blunt words of Abdul Khaliq Hazara, a prominent Hazara Shia in Quetta who heads the Hazara Democratic Party, "the government doesn't have the will to go after them."

Under this scenario, who would the Shia vote for? Probably not the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N)-Pakistan's chief opposition party and the current favorite to lead the next governing coalition. The PML-N's bastion is in Punjab Province, which is also the home base of some of Pakistan's most vicious sectarian extremist groups, including the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ). Yet instead of confronting the LeJ, the PML-N is seemingly courting it. Last year, the law minister of Punjab's provincial government (led by the PML-N) campaigned with the leader of Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), LeJ's parent organization. And just days ago, the secretary general of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ)-like the LeJ, a splinter group of SSP- bragged: "We have thousands of voters in almost every constituency of the South and Central Punjab and the PML-N leadership is destined to knock at our doors when the elections come."

Rumors have abounded that, with the election in mind, the PML-N is negotiating a "seat-adjustment" agreement with ASWJ. (The Express Tribune, in an article later removed from its website, described the deal as follows: the PML-N will support the ASWJ in races for three National Assembly seats, while in return the ASWJ, "whose votes often play a vital role in helping candidates win," will withdraw its candidates from contesting about a dozen National Assembly seats in Punjab) Last month the PML-N denied the rumors-only to be contradicted just days later by SSP's leader. Regardless of who's telling the truth, the PML-N has done little to dispel the expectation that, if it leads the next government, it will do little to address the Shias' plight.

A more likely choice for the Shias might be voting for Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party. The PTI, more so than the PML-N or PPP, has gone out of its way to condemn the country's sectarian bloodshed and its chief instigators. Pakistani analysts have contrasted Khan's strong and unequivocal denunciations with the "obfuscations and meaningless remarks" uttered by the Pakistani government. After an LeJ bombing killed nearly 90 people in a Quetta market last month, Khan declared at a press conference: "I tell you by name, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi...there can be no bigger enemy of Islam than you." He also accused the LeJ of exhibiting "the worst kind of enmity towards Islam." Such strong language is rarely used by the PPP or PML-N. In January, Khan even endorsed Shia demands for targeted operations against religious militants.

Admittedly, the PTI has no plans to take aim at the root causes of sectarian violence. For example, reforming-much less repealing-Pakistan's blasphemy laws (which are often used as a pretext to persecute religious minorities) is a move no political party in Pakistan dares make; the late Punjab governor Salman Taseer was assassinated for merely criticizing them. Nonetheless, compared to the two major parties, the PTI gives the impression of genuinely caring about, and wanting to help, Pakistan's besieged minorities (along with other vulnerable segments of the population; the party recently released a new manifesto to protect the disabled). Tellingly, after an attack on a Quetta snooker hall targeting Hazara Shias left more than 100 dead in January, Khan visited the victims' grieving families-a meeting that occurred before the arrival of Pakistani government officials. Shias in Lahore and other areas of Punjab-home to 148 of Pakistan's 272 national assembly seats-could cause significant damage to the PML-N's electoral prospects if they vote as a bloc for the PTI.

But there's little reason to believe Pakistan's Shias will actually turn out in droves to vote for the PTI. Many Shias are suspicious of Khan because of his support for talks with the Taliban and other gestures perceived as sympathetic to religious militants. Such suspicions intensify when PTI officials (including party vice chairman Ajaz Chaudhry) share the stage with hardline Islamist figures-including members of the ASWJ-during rallies of the Pakistan Defense Council, a collective of conservative religious parties. A recent video produced by the Shia rights group ShiaKilling.com captures the contempt that Pakistani Shias harbor toward the PTI (and toward the PML-N as well). One Shia cleric (who does not appear to enjoy a large following) has even peddled an elaborate conspiracy theory involving Saudi Arabia and the ISI colluding to install Khan as the leader of a new "Saudi-Wahhabi Islamic State" of Pakistan.

There's also little reason to believe Shias will band together and vote en masse for any other political party. Formal research on Pakistani Shia voting patterns is limited, but based on informal conversations and anecdotal evidence, it's safe to say that such patterns are far from monolithic. On May 11, some will vote along ethnic lines. Others will opt for the PPP; in a by-election last year in the Punjab city of Multan, the PPP candidate triumphed-and analysts noted that he earned Shia votes (in fact, according to research by Andrew Wilder, Shias in Punjab tended to vote for the PPP as far back as the 1990s -because of the perception that it was more liberal and tolerant of religious minorities than were other parties). Others still will vote for the MQM. This is a party that has controlled Karachi politics for decades-and has traditionally received many Shia votes (though given Karachi's violent political culture, many of them were probably cast under pressure). Some will simply choose a sympathetic patron. Finally, many Shias-due to fear, apathy, or sheer disgust-probably won't vote at all.

This isn't to say Shias aren't joining forces to pursue political goals. Last November, a top official with the Majlis-e-Wahdat-e-Muslimeen (MWM), a collaborative of Pakistani Shia religious scholars, announced that the organization would be establishing a Shia Solidarity Council "to promote harmony" among the country's Shias. The MWM, he added, "has been making all-out efforts to unite all Shia parties of Pakistan at one platform." (MWM party leaders, incidentally, have also said they seek to "counter [the] nefarious designs of the imperialist forces" against Pakistan, and the MWM has staged U.S. flag-burnings in front of the American embassy in Islamabad.)

Several weeks ago, the MWM registered as a political party with Pakistan's Election Commission, and has now decided to contest elections. Party officials have vowed to field candidates for 100 parliamentary seats (60 of them in the national assembly), mostly representing Shia-majority areas in Punjab and in Pakistan's other three provinces. However, owing to a variety of factors-such as the lack of electoral success of Pakistani religious parties, and the MWM's dearth of political resources-the party's big-picture prospects appear dim.

The takeaway? Pakistan's sectarian violence is unlikely to delay this year's election. And, owing to the strong likelihood of a PPP or PML-N victory on May 11, the votes cast by those in the crosshairs of that violence will fail to delay the inevitable-the arrival in power of another fragile coalition unable or unwilling to protect them.

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/04/pakistans_protest_vote

I am betting on Youth, Shias and minoroties voting as a bloc for PTI.. Can't say that for women yet.

insaftak
5th April 2013, 23:28
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0tt0man
5th April 2013, 23:49
^This is big news. Sialvi's are devout followers of the Aastana-e-Alia or whatever it is called. It's a rural constituency mainly.
PTI is using a pragmatic approach towards village politics. Let's see how well it pays off.

Looney
5th April 2013, 23:52
The decision against Musharraf to not let him contest is biased

waqar goraya
6th April 2013, 00:17
The decision against Musharraf to not let him contest is biased

Golden Words ...the most unbiased in the history probably

waqar_ahmad
6th April 2013, 00:21
^^

You really think Imran Khan's paper would be rejected. I thought you have been following pakistani politics for a while now :P

ECP doesn't have balls to disqualify any of these big leaders sad fact. Anyways there are already alternative plans in place if Imran Khan is disqualified.

I have been following pakistan politics for a while, thats why I am afraid of this happening. Good people find it hard in pakistani politics. And NS and AZ are NOT good people, so they wont have issues


No he won't! Sita white case was cleared by ECP judges in 2007. The outcome is still on ECP website.

Second accusation is dumb anyway. Imran didn't claim that he took part in gambling.

Besides I don't think ECP has guts to take on top leadership of any party. All topi drama going on these days regarding degrees and Islamic questions etc. Real challenge is to block defaulters, corrupt and other solid cases which ECP not gonna do.

I hope thats true. THis 62 63 ** is over the top. Anyone can be caught in this

PakistanPaindabad
6th April 2013, 00:26
IK will be cleared tomorrow - he is only being challenged in NA-56 from what I heard..

srh
6th April 2013, 00:46
any bank defaulter should be ineligible for elections IMO

Looney
6th April 2013, 05:39
Not following elections very closely so wanted to ask you guys what Altaf Hussain is talking about here :

He added that the scrutiny process was not child’s play and serious efforts were needed to make the process transparent. He was also critical of the ROs for asking contesting candidates personal and humiliating questions.

“They have no right to ask how many wives a candidate has and how much time he spends with them. This is unfair and is not only against the Constitution of Pakistan, but negates the teachings of Islam as well,” the MQM chief said, referring to news reports that an RO questioned a female candidate about her age and directed her to unveil her face.

He said, “We have not seen such a society where such questions are being asked by the returning officers who do not even know about the history of their own country and Islam.”

Who and what is he referring to ?

Anfield
6th April 2013, 08:07
I agree with you saying that faking degree is a crime.

All I am saying that law requiring MNAs to have a degree is discriminatory. If this absurd law was not there, there would be no reason to fake degrees.

90% of Pakistan does not have degrees which means they cannot be in the NA.

So you think People who are going to run your country should be uneducated?

insaftak
6th April 2013, 08:25
Not following elections very closely so wanted to ask you guys what Altaf Hussain is talking about here :

He added that the scrutiny process was not child’s play and serious efforts were needed to make the process transparent. He was also critical of the ROs for asking contesting candidates personal and humiliating questions.

“They have no right to ask how many wives a candidate has and how much time he spends with them. This is unfair and is not only against the Constitution of Pakistan, but negates the teachings of Islam as well,” the MQM chief said, referring to news reports that an RO questioned a female candidate about her age and directed her to unveil her face.

He said, “We have not seen such a society where such questions are being asked by the returning officers who do not even know about the history of their own country and Islam.”

Who and what is he referring to ?

Agree with him.

The returning officers of Election commission of Pakistan have been humiliating politicians with these stupid questions.

They have so far not asked any serious question about loan default and financial corruption. They are Joking with people of pakistan by asking kalmas, Dua Qanoot, and other trivial stuff.

saadibaba
6th April 2013, 08:31
This cartoon quite succinctly describes what is going on in Pakistan right now.....

http://dawncompk.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/images.jpg?w=670

insaftak
6th April 2013, 08:44
^^

I Blame PPP and PMLN for failing to do any electoral reforms and they deserve what's happening to them. Vast majority of politicians humiliated belong to these two parties.

saadibaba
6th April 2013, 08:48
^^

I Blame PPP and PMLN for failing to do any electoral reforms and they deserve what's happening to them. Vast majority of politicians humiliated belong to these two parties.

These article are in place since the 80's. Even Zia himself did not apply them on his parliament. Who knew that this would happen. TUQ brought it out in the public, probably on behalf of the Army and now this.....:facepalm:

insaftak
6th April 2013, 09:00
^^

They endorsed it with 18th amendment. They were asked to do reforms but they ignored it thinking it would benefit them.

Down2Earth
6th April 2013, 09:59
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voter's IQ :zardari

Down2Earth
6th April 2013, 10:09
A local resident, Mohammad Hafeez Abbasi, brought a written objection to the constituency’s returning officer, stating that in his memoir, “Me and My Pakistan,” Imran Khan “had confessed to consuming liquor… and this is a clear violation of Articles 63 and 64 of the Constitution.”

tomorrow is going to be very interesting! :))) i hope imran knows his 3rd kalma :moyo

these have to be the most absurd articles ever written. congratulations to my extremist muslims, maulvis will be running the country to the ground in the near future.

ddss
6th April 2013, 10:14
This cartoon quite succinctly describes what is going on in Pakistan right now.....

http://dawncompk.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/images.jpg?w=670

Sad

0tt0man
6th April 2013, 11:44
A local resident, Mohammad Hafeez Abbasi, brought a written objection to the constituency’s returning officer, stating that in his memoir, “Me and My Pakistan,” Imran Khan “had confessed to consuming liquor… and this is a clear violation of Articles 63 and 64 of the Constitution.”

tomorrow is going to be very interesting! :))) i hope imran knows his 3rd kalma :moyo

these have to be the most absurd articles ever written. congratulations to my extremist
muslims, maulvis will be running the country to the ground in the near future.

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court has restrained Returning Officers from asking irrelevant questions from the aspirants of contesting general election.

According to reports, the ban was imposed on Returning Officers working in Punjab on Friday.

The LHC said that the ROs could raise questions on the information provided by the candidates in their nominations papers.

The court has also imposed ban on carrying TV cameras in the offices of the Returning officers. LHC judge Mansoor Ali Shah issued the directives.

http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=95482
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Btw IK never mentioned in his book that he drank liquor. The complainant obviously has comprehension problems :)

waqar_ahmad
6th April 2013, 12:20
These article are in place since the 80's. Even Zia himself did not apply them on his parliament. Who knew that this would happen. TUQ brought it out in the public, probably on behalf of the Army and now this.....:facepalm:

Articles 62 and 63 have been part of discussions for a while now. It is PPP and PMLN's fault for not modifying them. This shows them to not only be corrupt, but dumb. Ab bhugto

Waseem
6th April 2013, 14:05
To be honest, i don't really think our public is informed enough as yet to vote for someone who is capable of changing the system. I can't even blame them enough because i would probably have same thinking if i was living there in those conditions. Although most people agree Imran is honest and educated but they would only vote for people who have built roads and bridges for them or improved infrastructure regardless of their character, lifestyle, intelligence etc

Imran is just a good guy who hasn't given them mega projects unlike Sharifs so why should they vote for Imran? Many people even admit that they believe Sharifs are also corrupt but their argument is at least they also spend on people beside the looting.

Faisalabad
6th April 2013, 15:09
i just cant understand why Ansar Abbasi is getting so much TV time on various channels.. hes only a investigative journo ***... he is taking such moral high ground..bet he cant utter a word against his own owners who are defaulters n tax evaders n whatnot..

S_K
6th April 2013, 15:32
Imran Khan cleared to contest polls from Lahore’s NA-122
The cricketer-turned-politician is slated to contest polls from NA-1 (Peshawar-II), NA-56 (Rawalpindi-VII), NA-71 (Mianwali-I), NA-122 (Lahore-V), and NA-125 (Lahore-VIII) constituencies.

Speaking to reporters at the Karachi Airport on Saturday, Khan said that the result of the polls would be similar to the outcome of the 1992 cricket World Cup, which Pakistan had unexpectedly swept under Khan’s captaincy.

Khan said that the deployment of the Army at polling stations was critical for security during the coming election. He said that the democratic process would fail if the people are unable to cast votes due to security concerns.

Regarding seat adjustment with other parties, Khan said that negotiations were underway concerning the matter.

A decision on Khan’s nomination papers for Rawalpindi’s NA-56 is also expected Saturday. According to reports, the returning officer has reserved ruling on the objections raised against Khan’s candidacy.

A local Pindi resident had raised the objection that in his memoir, “Me and My Pakistan,” Imran Khan “had confessed to consuming liquor,” thus violating the constitution. The RO had asked Khan to ‘clarify his position’ regarding the allegations.

http://dawn.com/2013/04/06/imran-khan-cleared-to-contest-polls-from-lahores-na-122/

Kianig89
6th April 2013, 15:57
WHy can't ECP reject NS ans SS paper's...........they have looted this whole country and its a travesty that people still want to vote for them.......even the biased media is giving them more time.......

Bashira_taeli
6th April 2013, 16:25
Is Shah Mehmood Qureshi standing as an independent candidate in Sindh?

waqar goraya
6th April 2013, 18:12
Imran Khan's nomination papers accepted for NA-122...

I am not sure about NA-56 but i think he has been cleared there too...

Waseem
6th April 2013, 18:15
Imran Khan's nomination papers accepted for NA-122...

I am not sure about NA-56 but i think he has been cleared there too...

Both Imran Khan and Ephedrine Abbasi's nomination papers for NA 56 accepted.

Sheikh Rasheed from NA 55 also cleared.

Waseem
6th April 2013, 18:17
The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Saturday accepted nomination papers of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan for NA-122 Lahore and NA-56 Rawalpindi.
Imran had filed nomination papers for five National Assembly seats including NA-1 (Peshawar-II), NA-56 (Rawalpindi-VII), NA-71 (Mianwali-I) and NA-125 (Lahore-VIII).
Speaking to reporters at the Karachi Airport on Saturday, Khan said the result of the upcoming polls would be similar to the outcome of the 1992 cricket World Cup, which Pakistan had unexpectedly swept under his leadership. Khan also stated that deployment of army at sensitive polling stations was critical for security during polls. He said the democratic process would fail if the people were unable to cast votes owing to security concerns. On seat adjustment with other parties, Khan said negotiations were underway concerning the issue.
According to reports, the returning officer from NA-56 Rawalpindi had reserved ruling on objections raised against Khan’s candidacy on Friday. A local Rawalpindi resident had raised the objection that in his autobiography, “Me and My Pakistan,” Khan had confessed to alcohol consumption liquor- a violation of the constitution. The RO had asked Khan to clarify his position on the allegations.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/04/06/news/national/ecp-gives-imran-the-nod-for-na-122-lahore/

justarslan
6th April 2013, 18:36
No he won't! Sita white case was cleared by ECP judges in 2007. The outcome is still on ECP website.

Second accusation is dumb anyway. Imran didn't claim that he took part in gambling.

Besides I don't think ECP has guts to take on top leadership of any party. All topi drama going on these days regarding degrees and Islamic questions etc. Real challenge is to block defaulters, corrupt and other solid cases which ECP not gonna do.

Did not his brother in law asked him for advice and Imran just advice him?

Waseem
6th April 2013, 18:43
Did not his brother in law asked him for advice and Imran just advice him?

Imran as a cricketer gave him some tips and then added in his book that "I have never been involved in any betting and don't understand the addiction"

Anyway, he has been cleared already by EC :-)

Waseem
6th April 2013, 20:30
Much hated Abdul Rasheed Bhatti leaves PTI. His reason is PTI is not party of change lol, now we know how useless and pathetic this excuse is :)

Poor PMLN were using his name to spread propaganda that murderer gets PTI ticket while Chacha Humayun back to sewing clothes, need to find new propaganda tool i guess :-)

waqar_ahmad
6th April 2013, 21:14
The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Saturday accepted nomination papers of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan for NA-122 Lahore and NA-56 Rawalpindi.
Imran had filed nomination papers for five National Assembly seats including NA-1 (Peshawar-II), NA-56 (Rawalpindi-VII), NA-71 (Mianwali-I) and NA-125 (Lahore-VIII).
Speaking to reporters at the Karachi Airport on Saturday, Khan said the result of the upcoming polls would be similar to the outcome of the 1992 cricket World Cup, which Pakistan had unexpectedly swept under his leadership. Khan also stated that deployment of army at sensitive polling stations was critical for security during polls. He said the democratic process would fail if the people were unable to cast votes owing to security concerns. On seat adjustment with other parties, Khan said negotiations were underway concerning the issue.
According to reports, the returning officer from NA-56 Rawalpindi had reserved ruling on objections raised against Khan’s candidacy on Friday. A local Rawalpindi resident had raised the objection that in his autobiography, “Me and My Pakistan,” Khan had confessed to alcohol consumption liquor- a violation of the constitution. The RO had asked Khan to clarify his position on the allegations.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/04/06/news/national/ecp-gives-imran-the-nod-for-na-122-lahore/

Excellent stuff. I was getting a bit concerned about this.

In other news, an ex-MPA from PMLN was born in 1972 and completed his matric in 1974.

the Great Khan
6th April 2013, 21:53
My wifes best friend submitted khans papers in lahore..id pic was funny lol..

0tt0man
6th April 2013, 22:11
Excellent stuff. I was getting a bit concerned about this.

In other news, an ex-MPA from PMLN was born in 1972 and completed his matric in 1974.
I'll take it. It isn't as though he completed his Matric before being born. :sohail

Kianig89
6th April 2013, 22:12
What the heck why aren't the defaulter being disqualified ECP show some balls.

Runner Up
6th April 2013, 22:32
The returning officer asked this question to one of the candidates from Gujranwala

Tell me the 15 fruits names in English and he goes........ Apple,Orange,Grapes and 12 Bananas.. ho gaye 15 :facepalm:

This is real lol

insaftak
6th April 2013, 22:36
^^

LMAO!!!!!!!!

I heard it was a PTI Candidate... Another Candidate was asked about ABCD and he said konse sunaoon choti wali ya bari wali :))) :)))

This 62-63 is full of **!

Saudi
6th April 2013, 22:49
^^

LMAO!!!!!!!!

I heard it was a PTI Candidate... Another Candidate was asked about ABCD and he said konse sunaoon choti wali ya bari wali :))) :)))

This 62-63 is full of **!

:))) :))) :)))

My personal favourites were Quaid-e-Azam being born on 23rd March and Allama Iqbal wrote the national anthem.

Some classics in this video as well.

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waqar goraya
6th April 2013, 22:51
"Pakistan mein sirf wo hi log saadiq aur amin hein jinka naam saadiq ya amin hai".....-Rehman Malik

:))):)):)))

waqar goraya
6th April 2013, 23:40
Would never contest elections independently-Shah Mahmood Qureshi


Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) Vice Chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi on Saturday rubbished speculation regarding alleged plans of contesting elections in Sindh as an independent candidate.

“This is nonsense,” the PTI leader told Dawn.com over telephone. “I am an elected vice chairman from PTI, and I would never contest elections independently.”

The buzz started on social media after Qureshi met with Pakistan Muslim League – Functional (PML-F) chief Pir Sibgatullah Rashididi (Pir Pagara) in the afternoon.

However, despite his refusal, the social networking website, Twitter was full of speculation. Omar Warraich, a reporter with the Times magazine for Pakistan, tweeted: “I feel sorry for PTI supporters. They elected Shah Mahmood their vice-president and now he’s standing as an independent.”

A reporter with Jang Group, Umer Cheema tweeted that: “Javed Hashmi sb must be excited to hear Shah Mehmood Qureshi’s decision. After all they have been rivaling each other.”

Earlier in the day, PTI chief Imran Khan did not come clean on the speculation and gave quite a vague response to a question on Qureshi contesting the elections as an independent candidate.

“Whether he contests as an independent or on the party ticket, he (SMQ) will remain the PTI vice chairman. And the seat will be ours regardless.”

Qureshi is slated to contest elections from Umar Kot and Tharparkar in Sindh.

Good stuff from SMQ

Pak_Jazba
7th April 2013, 00:04
Waseem badami and Luqman ripping into Arif Alvi, Andleeb Abbas right now on ARY.

Clearly the ARY team is on some agenda.

insaftak
7th April 2013, 00:05
^^

about what?

They are pro Vote4None!!!

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 00:12
Watching ARY News ....absolutely shocking and disgusting stuff from anchors....Shame on ARY news and stupid anchors...I do not watch this channel normally but only watching as guests are PTI leaders..

They are even not letting guests to speak :facepalm: :facepalm:

Runner Up
7th April 2013, 00:29
Jiyaala to Jiyaala Hota hai chahe PPP ka ho ya PTI ka ;-)

Pak_Jazba
7th April 2013, 00:38
^ You can always associate that behavior with Mubashir Luqman. He asks a question only to end up answering it himself, and Badami guy the less said about him the better.

PetroDollars
7th April 2013, 02:12
ARY has always been pro-pti and anti-pmln/ppp, so i dont know why you guys have a problem when they criticize pti.

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 03:03
ARY has always been pro-pti and anti-pmln/ppp, so i dont know why you guys have a problem when they criticize pti.

I have a problem when an anchor tries to over dictate himself.....They had their own answers to their own questions...
Should have shown some respect to their guests...

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
7th April 2013, 03:29
Watching ARY News ....absolutely shocking and disgusting stuff from anchors....Shame on ARY news and stupid anchors...I do not watch this channel normally but only watching as guests are PTI leaders..

They are even not letting guests to speak :facepalm: :facepalm:

Hold your horses buddy . They do this to every political party Badami asks straight questions cutting through the ** .He calls them on their B.S too with facts . Vision Pakistan is probably the most informative and eye opening election shows on Tv right now .You should've seen what he did to MQM and Noora league.

waqar_ahmad
7th April 2013, 03:50
I'll take it. It isn't as though he completed his Matric before being born. :sohail

Let's wait and see, many candidates still to go :amir

asifp
7th April 2013, 03:57
has anyone been disqualified so far for:

1. Loan default
2. Tax evasion
3. Non payment of utility bills

All this hue and cry of politicians not paying taxes and bills and no one is getting disqualified. ECP you are letting all of Pakistan down.

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
7th April 2013, 04:06
has anyone been disqualified so far for:

1. Loan default
2. Tax evasion
3. Non payment of utility bills

All this hue and cry of politicians not paying taxes and bills and no one is getting disqualified. ECP you are letting all of Pakistan down.

Its all topi drama. Tahir ul qadri's 62-63 topi for everyone.

PetroDollars
7th April 2013, 07:23
has anyone been disqualified so far for:

1. Loan default
2. Tax evasion
3. Non payment of utility bills

All this hue and cry of politicians not paying taxes and bills and no one is getting disqualified. ECP you are letting all of Pakistan down.

Watch Dr. Shahid Masoods program to know what is happening and going on atm.

asifp
7th April 2013, 08:11
Watch Dr. Shahid Masoods program to know what is happening and going on atm.

which ones? sorry only get ARY here on TV.

What I heard is that anyone with a stay order against their default / evasion will be cleared and pretty much getting a stay order in Pakistan is like going out to eat dinner so all these corrupt guys have one.

insaftak
7th April 2013, 08:20
No one disqualified for corruption and tax evasion.

So far only liars/cheaters with fake degrees have been disqualified.

asifp
7th April 2013, 08:34
No one disqualified for corruption and tax evasion.

So far only liars/cheaters with fake degrees have been disqualified.

Well done we know for sure that this ECP is corrupt and sold out.

What confidence can we have now that elections are not going to be super rigged!

Down2Earth
7th April 2013, 08:45
obviously these elections will be rigged. small politicians are mocked in front of the world by asking islamic questions and defaulters like nawaz sharif are allowed to contest no questions asked.

spinDoc
7th April 2013, 09:15
which ones? sorry only get ARY here on TV.

What I heard is that anyone with a stay order against their default / evasion will be cleared and pretty much getting a stay order in Pakistan is like going out to eat dinner so all these corrupt guys have one.


This website has all the pak talk shows and news


PKAFFAIRS.COM
Pakistan Current Affairs
http://www.pkaffairs.com/Talk_Shows_Recent_0-0-0

spinDoc
7th April 2013, 09:20
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spinDoc
7th April 2013, 09:58
From Dawn news.


KARACHI: The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf’s vice-chairman, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, has said he has filed nomination forms for the May 11 general elections from two constituencies of Tharparkar district, NA 228 and NA 230, as an independent candidate.

Addressing a press conference at the Raja House here along with PML-F chief Pir Pagara, Mr Qureshi expressed gratitude to the latter for inviting him to contest elections from Sindh.

He warned against extending the polling date, saying that any change in the election schedule would open a Pandora’s Box. The Supreme Court had already made it clear that it would not allow any extra-constitutional step.

He said the PPP-led governments at the centre and in Sindh over the past five years had put the country in a precarious situation where it was facing serious challenges of circular debt, institutional deterioration, poverty, ethnicity, terrorism and law and order. He said that stories of corruption and ‘existence of a chief minister in every district’ was a manifestation of the incompetence of the rulers.

“In view of the challenges, we have decided to unite all patriotic forces that believe in the federation, whose strength is declining, to find a way to steer the country on the way forward.”

He said the elections would decide whether people wanted to hand over the country to those who had bartered away national interest.

He said there was no solution except elections because a stable and strong federation was not possible without democracy. The elections should be held on time and in accordance with the constitution which decreed that the caretaker government’s sole agenda was to create an atmosphere in which free, fair and transparent elections could be held.

Mr Qureshi said the dream of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf was a new, strong and prosperous Pakistan.

He said the coming period, when forces of 38 countries led by Nato would be pulling out of Afghanistan, would test the Pakistani leaders’ abilities.

Answering a question, Mr Qureshi alleged that President Asif Ali Zardari and the PPP had prepared a strategy to give minimum time for electioneering.

He said the death anniversary of PPP’s founder chairman Zulfikar Ali Bhutto had always been commemorated in a big way even when the late Benazir Bhutto was in exile but the last government had limited the event to Garhi Khuda Bakhsh which was a matter to ponder for the ideological party workers.

Pir Pagara thanked Mr Qureshi for accepting his invitation to contest the elections from Sindh and said it would fulfill the desire of his late father who had been keen to see the followers of the Ghausia and Hur Jamaats come together. He said his party would ensure Mr Qureshi’s victory.

The PML-F chief expressed confidence that Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim, leader of another PML faction, would support the alliance.

Pir Pagara alleged that the PPP was still ruling in Sindh. He said the Punjab chief secretary had been changed but similar transfer orders in Sindh had not been implemented.

He said the time given for scrutiny of the nomination papers was not sufficient to screen out defaulters of the agriculture bank in Punjab and Sindh. The returning officers ought to concentrate on recovering public money instead of asking irrelevant questions from candidates, he said.

Talking to Dawn, Mr Qureshi said he had permission from PTI chief Imran Khan for all his decisions. He said his move to contest the elections as an independent candidate was a “technical issue”.

An official of the Election Commission of Pakistan said there was no bar on a person contesting election from one constituency as an independent candidate and from another as a candidate of some party.

Badsha
7th April 2013, 10:02
Why is SMQ standing as an independent over there?

waqar_ahmad
7th April 2013, 10:12
Yeah what's this drama going on with SMQ? On one hand I'm reading tweets like "I would never contest elections independently since I am the VP of PTI." And on the other hand, i am reading these news items.

What the deal here?

spinDoc
7th April 2013, 10:22
Yeah what's this drama going on with SMQ? On one hand I'm reading tweets like "I would never contest elections independently since I am the VP of PTI." And on the other hand, i am reading these news items.

What the deal here?

I dont think that twitter acount is SMQs.

spinDoc
7th April 2013, 10:25
Yeah what's this drama going on with SMQ? On one hand I'm reading tweets like "I would never contest elections independently since I am the VP of PTI." And on the other hand, i am reading these news items.

What the deal here?

IK interveiw in Dawn.

In reply to a question, he said the PTI had reached a seat adjustment arrangement with Shaikh Rashid Ahmed in Rawalpindi and the Nawab of Bahawalpur, while negotiations were under way with the Jamaat-i-Islami and Majlis Whadatul Muslimeen.

He said the party had allowed its vice chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi to contest election as an independent candidate to make breakthrough in Sindh because his win would mean a seat for the PTI.

waqar_ahmad
7th April 2013, 10:38
^ But why cant he get the same votes and backing by being a PTI candidate? I mean he is the SVP of PTI, whether he puts that in writing on the nomination forms doesnt really matter.

The twitter account is PTI's as far as I know, and not SMQ's

spinDoc
7th April 2013, 10:42
^ But why cant he get the same votes and backing by being a PTI candidate? I mean he is the SVP of PTI, whether he puts that in writing on the nomination forms doesnt really matter.

The twitter account is PTI's as far as I know, and not SMQ's


Nasim Zehra ‏@NasimZehra 17h
To guarante a win SMQ decides 2 contest from Sindh as an independant-he needs Pagara sb suport who won't suport PTI bcos of aliance wth PMLn


SMQ ‏ @smqpti
This is an unofficial/fans' account. The tweets coming your way from here are, hence, entirely my personal views; and not Mr Shah Mehmood Qureshi's.

waqar_ahmad
7th April 2013, 10:55
^Thanks for the clarification! Interesting stuff

justarslan
7th April 2013, 11:11
IK interveiw in Dawn.

In reply to a question, he said the PTI had reached a seat adjustment arrangement with Shaikh Rashid Ahmed in Rawalpindi and the Nawab of Bahawalpur, while negotiations were under way with the Jamaat-i-Islami and Majlis Whadatul Muslimeen.

He said the party had allowed its vice chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi to contest election as an independent candidate to make breakthrough in Sindh because his win would mean a seat for the PTI.

Will we have PTI candidates on ballots for the two seats SMQ will contest election as an independent candidate?

Down2Earth
7th April 2013, 11:27
Smq is a lota and you'll see that come may. Pti's gonna get stabbed in the back and lose their only effective public speaker.
And vision pakistan blasted pti, they should have sent stronger people to the show. Better politicians anyway

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 11:32
This has to be the first time in the history of elections in Pakistan that a candidate being part of a party, in fact it's Vice chairman is running as an independent and not on the ticket of his party. And all IK has to say about this is well, those seats will still be PTI's seats even if SMQ wins as an independent. Lol. Just goes to show that PTI does not even have confidence in its own name. Better to lose than to win like that. What a joke!

Badsha
7th April 2013, 12:15
This has to be the first time in the history of elections in Pakistan that a candidate being part of a party, in fact it's Vice chairman is running as an independent and not on the ticket of his party. And all IK has to say about this is well, those seats will still be PTI's seats even if SMQ wins as an independent. Lol. Just goes to show that PTI does not even have confidence in its own name. Better to lose than to win like that. What a joke!

Well at least in your negative mindset, you agree that change has arrived :wasim


Like someone mentioned above, it's because of the alliance with pir pagara who wont align themselves with SMQ under the umbrella of PTI.



The tickets will be announced tomorrow in a press conference I'm hearing.

Down2Earth
7th April 2013, 12:43
What change? The party is being made to look like a joke at the worst possible time for them. They're looking very weak right now

arsalan660
7th April 2013, 12:54
lol PTI afraid of losing allow SMQ to run independently so if he lose it will be lose for SMQ and not PTI but if win Its is win for PTI

Down2Earth
7th April 2013, 13:09
Smq was the foreign minister under ppp and we all saw how he bowed his head to the Americans. He's cia's man. Pti would have been better off without him.

asifp
7th April 2013, 14:00
Smq was the foreign minister under ppp and we all saw how he bowed his head to the Americans. He's cia's man. Pti would have been better off without him.

exactly, there was no need for SMQ or Hashmi. Instead new faces would have come to the top and lot of the lotas would have stayed out.

I would say accepting SMQ and JH was a big mistake for PTI

the Great Khan
7th April 2013, 14:24
Good tactical move from pti with regards to smq. I dont have a problem with it..

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 15:33
Hold your horses buddy . They do this to every political party Badami asks straight questions cutting through the ** .He calls them on their B.S too with facts . Vision Pakistan is probably the most informative and eye opening election shows on Tv right now .You should've seen what he did to MQM and Noora league.

Insulting behavior is not acceptable.....There has to be some decency on their part...

Markhor
7th April 2013, 16:36
exactly, there was no need for SMQ or Hashmi. Instead new faces would have come to the top and lot of the lotas would have stayed out.

I would say accepting SMQ and JH was a big mistake for PTI

But PTI needs electables and big names. You cannot expect PTI to make major inroads with candidates whom the electorate does not recognise.

Red Devil
7th April 2013, 16:45
Ch. Nisar's nomination papers rejected from NA-53!

Black Zero
7th April 2013, 17:32
smq fooled ik as expected.

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 17:35
smq fooled ik as expected.

Is he leaving or joining N league?

Black Zero
7th April 2013, 17:37
Is he leaving or joining N league?

Doing both!

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 17:44
Doing both!

Hillarious news...:O:

Badsha
7th April 2013, 17:58
smq fooled ik as expected.

Still ******** that he left you guys ? :akhtar


SMQ is obviously still in PTI.

0tt0man
7th April 2013, 18:28
Raja rental's papers rejected as well. :yk

srh
7th April 2013, 20:19
Musharaff's nominations have been rejected from all seats?

Badsha
7th April 2013, 20:22
Ch.Nisars papers have been REJECTED!

Markhor
7th April 2013, 20:27
Musharaff's nominations have been rejected from all seats?

He is confirmed in Chitral - http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-95686-Musharraf-candidacy-papers-accepted-only-from-Chitral

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 21:01
Still can't get over it, VC of a party running as an independent.

So the "change" they were supposed to bring was this !

:))

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 21:06
^

You are really sad about this i think

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 21:19
^^^

Yeah in a way, did not expect PTI to stoop to this level just to win a seat or two.

Badsha
7th April 2013, 21:36
^

You are really sad about this i think

SaadiBaba is a logical poster but a real pessimist.

Markhor
7th April 2013, 21:38
^^^

Yeah in a way, did not expect PTI to stoop to this level just to win a seat or two.

But that's Pak politics, if PTI are not pragmatic and unwilling to do this type of thing, make alliances then they are criticised for being naive. If they do, then they are 'selling out' so their arguments seem to be criticised both ways.

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 21:51
But that's Pak politics, if PTI are not pragmatic and unwilling to do this type of thing, make alliances then they are criticised for being naive. If they do, then they are 'selling out' so their arguments seem to be criticised both ways.

I think you are confusing "selling out" with pragmatism. Show me one example where any other party including all the sell out parties, where their number 2 has done the same as what is SMQ is doing right now. Just goes to show the desperation of PTI supporters who are supporting this move. Tsunami aise nahi aye gi.

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
7th April 2013, 21:53
Insulting behavior is not acceptable.....There has to be some decency on their part...

these politicians need to be asked the tough questions.They have made a carrier out of not answering the real question and beat around the bush . I appreciate it when an anchor forces them to give a straight answer. These political talk shows aren't supposed to be about politicians going up there and talk up their parties,They are there so question can be answered.

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
7th April 2013, 21:57
I think you are confusing "selling out" with pragmatism. Show me one example where any other party including all the sell out parties, where their number 2 has done the same as what is SMQ is doing right now. Just goes to show the desperation of PTI supporters who are supporting this move. Tsunami aise nahi aye gi.

Whats the logic behind this move by SMQ ?

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 22:12
Whats the logic behind this move by SMQ ?

I talked about it before too but my theory is that SMQ is keeping his options open by doing this. In case PTI is unable to make an impact in the coming elections, SMQ will then be free to join any party in the govt. as the 18th amendment rule of not being able to change parties will not apply to him as he would have won his seat as an independent.

Markhor
7th April 2013, 22:13
I think you are confusing "selling out" with pragmatism. Show me one example where any other party including all the sell out parties, where their number 2 has done the same as what is SMQ is doing right now. Just goes to show the desperation of PTI supporters who are supporting this move. Tsunami aise nahi aye gi.

PTI do not have an electoral track record to speak of though, and the one of the main functions of any political party is the electoral one, to win seats in the legislature, and they are trying to give themselves the best possible chance in doing that.

OK look I agree this type of muk muka politics is completely contradictory to PTI's claim of tsunami, break with the past, clean sweep etc, and despite IK's claim he would not get involved in the game of political alliances - he is so I give you that.

But a party especially one as new as PTI cannot expect to make inroads without making alliances, which they are doing so. We have to be realistic about this, yes other parties do not do this but they have established vote banks that have been built up over decades. PTI have to start building up their vote banks on the other hand, and if this is what they have to do, then so be it ?

from_da_lost_dim3nsion
7th April 2013, 22:18
I talked about it before too but my theory is that SMQ is keeping his options open by doing this. In case PTI is unable to make an impact in the coming elections, SMQ will then be free to join any party in the govt. as the 18th amendment rule of not being able to change parties will not apply to him as he would have won his seat as an independent.
makes complete sense . I forgot about the 18th .

the Great Khan
7th April 2013, 22:20
SaadiBaba is a logical poster but a real pessimist.

I hear he has a poster of his quaid altaf sahib on his ceiling..

saadibaba
7th April 2013, 22:51
PTI do not have an electoral track record to speak of though, and the one of the main functions of any political party is the electoral one, to win seats in the legislature, and they are trying to give themselves the best possible chance in doing that.

OK look I agree this type of muk muka politics is completely contradictory to PTI's claim of tsunami, break with the past, clean sweep etc, and despite IK's claim he would not get involved in the game of political alliances - he is so I give you that.

But a party especially one as new as PTI cannot expect to make inroads without making alliances, which they are doing so. We have to be realistic about this, yes other parties do not do this but they have established vote banks that have been built up over decades. PTI have to start building up their vote banks on the other hand, and if this is what they have to do, then so be it ?

Sure, I'm all for it but then don't call yourself a party of change and stop making tall claims about not being an alliance with so and so. Basically what is happening here is PTI and PML-N making an indirect alliance. PML-F has an alliance with N league, while its supporting SMQ on this seat, but since they can't officially be in alliance with PTI because of their alliance with N league, SMQ is running as an independent despite being VC of PTI, so he can get the support of PML-F. So PML-F is the king maker while PTI and PML-N are in an indirect alliance. Lets see, how does that represent change.

insaftak
7th April 2013, 22:55
PTI hasn't not announced any candidates yet.. All of candidates will be discussed again tomorrow!

They should finish with this and move on to campaign. With no electricity in most of punjab. we could give some serious tongue lashing/phainta to PPP and PMLN now :)

MR__KHAN__JI
7th April 2013, 23:10
What r the opinion polls saying.

Markhor
7th April 2013, 23:10
Sure, I'm all for it but then don't call yourself a party of change and stop making tall claims about not being an alliance with so and so. Basically what is happening here is PTI and PML-N making an indirect alliance. PML-F has an alliance with N league, while its supporting SMQ on this seat, but since they can't officially be in alliance with PTI because of their alliance with N league, SMQ is running as an independent despite being VC of PTI, so he can get the support of PML-F. So PML-F is the king maker while PTI and PML-N are in an indirect alliance. Lets see, how does that represent change.

Yaar every opposition politician in my lifetime has said that they represent change and how they will break with the past but end up making alliances, formal or informal. Its been like this so far as I can remember. The change mantra is always the language of politicians to get elected. Obama talked about 'change' in 2008 and taking on the vested interests of big business but there are those on the left who say he's failed to do so. Cameron over here talked about how he too represented change and that he was and would take on our banking system, yet his party has arguably got even more cosier with the banks.

Now I'm certainly not directly comparing those two with IK but its the language of an election campaign - which often can be so contradictory with that party's actions but that's how politics has been even before the likes of PTI. Now I do think some PTI supporters do often overegg the change/tsunami slogan as I mentioned earlier, they have had to work with the system and get bogged in the game of alliances but people have to be realistic. They are never going to come in and win a landslide, but what they can do is gradually build up their vote banks, make the alliances and do what all parties want to do which is get elected. Otherwise the alternative is naive idealism, to keep harping on about change on the sidelines but ultimately leading to electoral irrelevance to the benefit of noone and to the detriment of the people. Or they could try and make inroads through alliances and using the defectors from other parties, get elected and implement their policies.

Kianig89
7th April 2013, 23:16
Asma Chaudhry an anchor tweets that PPP may boycott elections because of victimization....:13:

insaftak
7th April 2013, 23:23
^^

Imran Khan on PTV Said I will be surprised if PPP got more than 5 Seats :)

insaftak
7th April 2013, 23:24
Can we get 18+ hours of loadshedding till May 10th :P

Black Zero
7th April 2013, 23:32
Still ******** that he left you guys ? :akhtar


SMQ is obviously still in PTI.

"you guys"?

I am mere a spectator.. of this topi drama...

people like smq got no principles...they have been fooling people for generations...
even when he joined pti, (after he had so many meetings with sharifs)..i said that he would left ik in a sec if he sees that his future's uncertain...

waqar goraya
7th April 2013, 23:32
these politicians need to be asked the tough questions.They have made a carrier out of not answering the real question and beat around the bush . I appreciate it when an anchor forces them to give a straight answer. These political talk shows aren't supposed to be about politicians going up there and talk up their parties,They are there so question can be answered.

I did not watch a talk show first time .....

You have every right to ask a tough question ...but their are some rules of decency which have to be followed....Anchors were way too dictorial and had a mocking behavior towards their guests

insaftak
7th April 2013, 23:59
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551289_440208452733090_1828922852_n.jpg

waqar goraya
8th April 2013, 00:01
Mashallah we have our own jiyalas now..:)

insaftak
8th April 2013, 00:27
^^

did you say Jiyalas :))



ہو جاتا ہے تو پھر کسی کی نہیں سنتا۔۔!!
یہ عشق بھی مجھے عمران خان لگتا ہے

asifp
8th April 2013, 01:53
But PTI needs electables and big names. You cannot expect PTI to make major inroads with candidates whom the electorate does not recognise.

I think PTI's jalsas would be equally big without SMQ or JH. SMQ and JH would get us two seats prolly no more. People would vote PTI.

SMQ and JH started the trended of lotas jumping to PTI and now all the hard workers are being ignored and these topi drama people are getting the tickets!

insaftak
8th April 2013, 02:40
http://e.jang.com.pk/04-07-2013/lahore/images/67.gif

Eagle_Eye
8th April 2013, 02:58
Qureshi will stand as an independent from one constituency?

Lotas showing their hand at the right time?

Eagle_Eye
8th April 2013, 03:09
SaadiBaba is a logical poster but a real pessimist.

He is right, its not pessimism, he is telling you something you dont want to hear!

This is the most absurd situation ever and made pti a luaghing stock.

He shoud be sacked immediately along with the other feudal lotas.

baalti
8th April 2013, 03:31
I did not watch a talk show first time .....

You have every right to ask a tough question ...but their are some rules of decency which have to be followed....Anchors were way too dictorial and had a mocking behavior towards their guests

i saw that sad episode... where it was two little twits questioning and answering to them as they pleased.... this is my question, and this is my answer.... i think the PTI members handled themselves in a great manner...

lucman and badami were trying to impress god knows who... it was more like 2 dangro'N ko anchor bana diya ho....

ask tough questions all you want, but give them a chance to answer as well... no fun asking questions when you dont even want to hear an answer... they were giving them stick for supporting a dictator, while were being dictators throughout the show themselves :manzoor

baalti
8th April 2013, 03:35
i dont know why ppl are so jumpy and itchy with SMQ going independent... they have all clearly stated from top to bottom, that it is to gain a stronghold in SINDH... nothing else... they have to get in there somehow... they were hoping to surprise ppl, but looks like ppl are too dumb or dull to get it... there is no wrongdoing there... if it works power to them... and for those claiming that smq will scoot away to PMLN, 1 it wont happen, 2 if it does SMQ poori qaum ke aagay nanga ho jaye ga, little fish can pull those moves at this moment, not big ones, as all the scanners are on them... think about it...

waqar goraya
8th April 2013, 03:42
People are rightly complaining about SMQ....

I have noticed unlike Imran Khan or even Javed Hashmi he has always avoided criticising N league...He has a soft corner for them....

If his mureeds are going to vote him then they will vote him as a PTI candidate too....You do get a feeling that he has kept his options open unlike Hashmi.......I wish this proves to be only an allusion for us...

Eagle_Eye
8th April 2013, 03:44
i dont know why ppl are so jumpy and itchy with SMQ going independent... they have all clearly stated from top to bottom, that it is to gain a stronghold in SINDH... nothing else... they have to get in there somehow... they were hoping to surprise ppl, but looks like ppl are too dumb or dull to get it... there is no wrongdoing there... if it works power to them... and for those claiming that smq will scoot away to PMLN, 1 it wont happen, 2 if it does SMQ poori qaum ke aagay nanga ho jaye ga, little fish can pull those moves at this moment, not big ones, as all the scanners are on them... think about it...

They are not jumpy or itchy, they are laughing at the naivity of pti and its genuine supporters.

Head in sand approach will not get pti anywhere.

chacha kashmiri
8th April 2013, 03:50
was watching geo news today and seen some ex movie star sitting an exam by reciting aytul qursi, not the best tajweed but still, she then sighed a big sigh of relief and probly took her chaddar off

Duno who smq is but if i understand correctly he's the vp of the pti running as an independent then ik's learnt the wrong lessons from the egyptian election

baalti
8th April 2013, 03:55
People are rightly complaining about SMQ....

I have noticed unlike Imran Khan or even Javed Hashmi he has always avoided criticising N league...He has a soft corner for them....

If his mureeds are going to vote him then they will vote him as a PTI candidate too....You do get a feeling that he has kept his options open unlike Hashmi.......I wish this proves to be only an allusion for us...

mere bhai beech mein thori politics bhi toh karni hain na... peer pagara is respecting him by saying go ahead contest in the area and my folks will back/vote you... however, they will not really vote for him if he shows up as PTI ticket holder...

to put it frankly, we need to grab the dumb and illiterate ppl that have no sense for the future of Pakistan, we have to do whats right for them... it sounds crude, or wrong, but in the long term future of PAK, thats needed.... i AM cool with it...

it will make sense eventually...

baalti
8th April 2013, 03:57
They are not jumpy or itchy, they are laughing at the naivity of pti and its genuine supporters.

Head in sand approach will not get pti anywhere.

yeah, like the rest of the approached of N league, Ppp, pml-q, mqm, anp, etc etc are awe worthy and set the standards sooo damn high... (thumbsup)

baalti
8th April 2013, 04:00
kitni khushi hoti hai when a person is questioned who are you gona vote for "pmln" "ppp" comes a response, what have they done for you "ummmm......... road.... bridge.....nothing", why vote them then "coz they are good, and thats who i have voted forever, and they will do something eventually or one day"..... sad state of affairs in Pak....

insaftak
8th April 2013, 04:20
Imran Khan's interview on PTV News

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baalti
8th April 2013, 04:32
insaftak tumhara kya view hai on SMQ...

insaftak
8th April 2013, 05:19
^^

I am waiting for the official candidate list. Lots of things need to be fixed in many division. There is one final meeting of Parliamentary board tomorrow to finalize the candidates.

zimmz
8th April 2013, 06:06
According to interview Imran and CEC did plan a policy for sitting MNAs joining PTI to award them tickets but then Intra party election overruled their decision. Sardar Asif should've realized that but as Imran said these guys have old habits from previous parties. So PTI did try to have some sort of compromise between Kasuri and Sardar but his bloated ego didn't let him join the meeting. I say good riddance even though he sounded a decent person.

Inamullah was rejected by local leadership so Imran can't do any thing about it. Good example of democracy.

Also expecting a kick on the back side of Aleem khan group tomorrow.