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UsmanhailsAfridi
16th May 2013, 19:09
i thought there was no rigging in Punjab...where are the PMLN supporters now...abhi bhi andhe ho ya kuch nazar aa raha hai

waqar_ahmad
16th May 2013, 19:14
There was rigging all over Punjab. This is just tip of the iceberg

hamzie
16th May 2013, 19:37
TAXILLA: Senior Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan lost Punjab’s provincial assembly seat from Taxilla’s PP-7 to Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) candidate Siddiq Khan after a recount in six polling stations of the constituency, DawnNews reported.

Uffffffffffffffffffffff chalo
THIS WARRANTS RE ELECTION

Badsha
16th May 2013, 19:42
Clockwise: Imran Farooq, Altaf Hussain, uknown, Afaq Ahmed(?), Azeem Tariq and Farooq Sattar.

Afaq Ahmed and Farooq Sattar are the only ones surviving. The Don has eliminated the rest.

LegendsXI
16th May 2013, 20:41
Hope this corruption is alleviated, and PTI wins mores seats.

lilFlip
17th May 2013, 00:14
Any updates people?

Strike!
17th May 2013, 00:20
Update is that Hanif Abbasi alleges PTI rigging in his constituency. :))

lilFlip
17th May 2013, 00:53
Update is that Hanif Abbasi alleges PTI rigging in his constituency. :))

Googled the ghunda and found this:

'Police pursues Hanif Abbasi for murder of PTI supporter'

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/05/16/news/national/police-pursues-hanif-abbasi-for-murder-of-pti-supporter/

shan
17th May 2013, 01:01
http://dawncompk.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/map1.jpg?w=670

PTI share of votes more but less seats but N less share and more seats. Why cant seats be divided based on votes? That way people wont consider their votes wasted.

Markhor
17th May 2013, 01:39
Proportional representation though leads to perpetual coalitions and exactly the kind of horse-trading and political bargaining behind the scenes that people detest in Pak politics. FPTP is terrible though so some kind of compromise like AV which they have in Australia would be better as it redresses the excesses of FPTP without the need for full PR that would lead to permanent parliamentary deadlock.

LethalSami
17th May 2013, 12:38
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431799_568755909841785_1561435345_n.jpg

AZ
17th May 2013, 13:01
Mansoor Ali Khan ‏@MansoorGeoNews 6m

#ECP rejects Imran Khan's request for re-count in NA122 #Lahore

Mian Hassan
17th May 2013, 13:19
Well then Dharna should continue..!! ECP knows they have messed up and so far all which have been recounted have been over turned.....

Mian Hassan
17th May 2013, 13:28
Awais Leghari, Jamal Leghari join PML-N

^

These are proper lotas have nothing to do... feel sorry for such people have no life then jumping from 1 ship to another one....

AZ
17th May 2013, 13:31
Well then Dharna should continue..!! ECP knows they have messed up and so far all which have been recounted have been over turned.....

LHC also rejected it.

Waseem
17th May 2013, 13:38
LHC also rejected it.

Nope EC approved the recount in NA 57 but PMLN candidate took stay order and LH reversed the decision to recount.

NA 122 EC rejected recount.

PTI should give up, even if EC agrees to recount, courts overrule it and if they don't say anything supreme court may come into play. No hope here for PTI, just pretend nothing happened.

AZ
17th May 2013, 13:40
Nope EC approved the recount in NA 57 but PMLN candidate took stay order and LH reversed the decision to recount.

NA 122 EC rejected recount.

PTI should give up, even if EC agrees to recount, courts overrule it and if they don't say anything supreme court may come into play. No hope here for PTI, just pretend nothing happened.

are you sure?

https://twitter.com/geonews_urdu/status/335294961958408192

AZ
17th May 2013, 13:41
Mansoor Ali Khan ‏@MansoorGeoNews 1m

President Zardari will not resign before his term ends: Spokesman, Farhat Ullah Babar #PPP

Waseem
17th May 2013, 15:28
are you sure?

https://twitter.com/geonews_urdu/status/335294961958408192

What i was saying is that EC approved recounting in NA 57 on Malik Amin Aslam PTI's request and it even started until it was stopped by LHC order. I really cannot understand why anyone would have problem with recounting and why would you go to court to stop it?

Pak_Jazba
17th May 2013, 15:42
^ LOL, Shrek (Nawaz Sharif) has bought everyone. From Supreme court to LHC to EC.

Markhor
17th May 2013, 16:28
http://beta.dawn.com/news/1011694/jui-f-set-to-join-coalition-after-pml-n-invitation

JUI-F set to join coalition after PML-N invitation


ISLAMABAD: After failing to form a government in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl's (JUI-F) avenues for entering a coalition government in the centre and Balochistan assembly, opened up after a formal invitation from Pakistan Muslim League - Nawaz (PML-N) leader Shahbaz Sharif on Thursday, DawnNews reported.

Shahbaz held a meeting with JUI-F chief Maulana Fazalur Rehman during which the issues related to formation of a government were discussed whereas the PML-N also extended a formal invitation to the JUI-F to form a coalition government in the National Assembly and Balochistan's provincial assembly.

Speaking to media persons after the meeting, Shahbaz said that the challenges faced by the country needed to be addressed jointly.

He further said that the PML-F was their ally in Sindh whereas party chief Nawaz Sharif wanted to take all political parties on-board to tackle the issues of terrorism, corruption and the energy crises in Pakistan.

JUI-F chief Maulana Fazl said that a meeting of the party's central Majlis-e-Amla was called for today during which the decision to join a coalition government would be taken after consultation.

Markhor
17th May 2013, 16:30
http://beta.dawn.com/news/1011131/major-issues-the-govt-led-by-nawaz-will-face

Major issues the govt led by Nawaz will face


ISLAMABAD, May 12: The winner of historic elections, Nawaz Sharif, faces a host of problems, including faltering economic growth, worsening energy shortages and continued attacks by militants.

FALTERING ECONOMY: The economy has grown at less than 4 per cent a year under the most recent government led by the PPP.

That is much lower than the rates during the previous administration, which at times hovered near 7pc. Under the most recent government, inflation spiked, reaching an annualised rate of around 25pc in some months.

However, the inflation rate has fallen and averaged around 11pc last year.

ENERGY SHORTAGES: Electricity shortages nearly doubled under the PPP compared with the previous administration.

Some places in the country suffer blackouts for up to 18 hours a day during summer months.

The country also has experienced increased shortages of natural gas, which were felt acutely during the winter because many people rely on natural gas to heat their homes as well as cook.

Spending on energy subsidies and failing public enterprises has helped sap the government’s funds, which are much lower than they should be because of ineffective tax collection.

The combination of these factors means the government will likely have to seek yet another unpopular bailout from the International Monetary Fund.

TALIBAN ATTACKS: The military has launched several operations against the Pakistani Taliban in the northwest tribal region along the Afghan border during the past five years.

Analysts say the operations and US drone attacks against militants in the tribal region have helped produce a significant decline in overall levels of violence in 2011 and 2012.

But the Taliban have remained a potent threat, including during the election campaign.

The group carried out near-daily attacks against election candidates and offices that killed more than 130 people.

The militants mostly targeted liberal secular parties that supported operations against the Taliban. Sectarian violence by radical militants against minority Shias also has significantly worsened in recent months.

“(Sharif) needs to solve the issue of terrorism and other problems crippling the economy. If he delivers quickly, fair enough, if not then he will face crisis and criticism,” pundit Hasan Askari said.

The election failed to realise the hopes of many that the hold of patronage-based parties would end after years of misrule and corruption.

Mr Sharif has said the army, which has ruled the country for more than half of its turbulent 66-year history, should stay out of politics.

But he will have to work with generals, who set foreign and security policy and will manage the country’s thorny relationship with the United States as Nato troops withdraw from Afghanistan in 2014.

Mr Sharif also believes Pakistan should reconsider its support for the US war on militancy.

Mr Sharif, who advocates free-market economics, is likely to pursue privatisation and deregulation to revive flagging growth.

The PML-N leader has said he could do business with the IMF, meaning he may be open to reforms like an easing of subsidies and a widening of the country’s tiny tax base to secure billions of dollars from the global lender.

RELATIONS WITH ARMY: Mr Sharif’s last term as prime minister came to an abrupt and ignominious end in 1999 when he was deposed in a coup led by Gen Pervez Musharraf.

He was sentenced to life in prison by a military court before being allowed to go into exile in Saudi Arabia.

Political analyst A.H. Nayer said talk of a potential clash between Mr Sharif and the military was overblown. “I think the army will have to back the government, they have no choice,” he said.

“I think Sharif’s government will come out with an impression that it is not against the army as an organisation — he was against only one general who staged a coup.”

The 63-year-old’s unprecedented third term as prime minister results from widespread unhappiness with the PPP government, but also from the performance of the PML-N in Punjab.

During two tenures in the 1990s the PML-N built the country’s only motorway. During its rule of Punjab over the past five years it created new roads and bridges for Lahore and a city metro-bus system — the first properurban public transport system in the country. It has also targeted young voters with scholarships and free laptops.

Mr Sharif went into the election promising to transform the economy, end corruption in state-owned enterprises, build a motorway from Lahore to Karachi and launch a bullet train. — Agencies

0tt0man
17th May 2013, 20:50
May all those involved in rigging die a slow painful death. Insh'Allah.
Mubasher Lucman is like wine. Prohibited but you can't help love it.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzxxs6_kharra-sach-16th-may-2013_news#.UZZDmT5v5Yw

Badsha
17th May 2013, 21:27
Awais Leghari, Jamal Leghari join PML-N

^

These are proper lotas have nothing to do... feel sorry for such people have no life then jumping from 1 ship to another one....

They are very good people and politicians. I know them personally and Awais Leghari did a lot of work for the IT industry.


They were independents. Had to join the ruling party

wasim-fan
17th May 2013, 22:20
The day after May 11

Two days after the general elections in Pakistan, I sat watching a debate between senior leaders of the PTI, the MQM and the PML-N regarding rigging in elections. The most amazing part of the conversation was the suggestion by the PTI leader that perhaps, intelligence agency wallahs were stuffing ballot boxes at a polling station from where a PML-N candidate won. The same leader also talked about an opinion piece suggesting that the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) was bribed to ensure a certain win. The other day, I heard a ‘so-called’ journalist talking in a television programme, of foreign countries like Turkey being involved in ensuring certain election results in

Pakistan. Notwithstanding some genuine complaints of rigging, the conversation and suggestion reflected a desire to delegitimise the larger election process, which did not bring about results that a certain segment of the population desired. While it is necessary to sort out the urgent issues regarding glaring discrepancies in results and measures to strengthen the ECP, it is also necessary for the post-May 11 Pakistan to find closure. Instead of constantly delegitimising the process, it is necessary to accept the fact that a large part of Pakistan that voted differently from how certain people thought they would, also represents the country. Its opinion ought to be respected as well.

There is a great risk of a segment of the population that was enthralled by the idea of Naya Pakistan getting depoliticised out of frustration. Like others, I have also heard conversations in which the Naya Pakistan wallahs were going around cursing people’s decision, calling them stupid and even suggesting that participating in elections was an effort not worth their while. Some even went to the extent of calling people paindu (rural) and illiterate. Besides a lot of institution-building and strengthening that is required, Imran Khan must nurse the wounds of his supporters at the earliest and draw their attention towards the fact that it is a great achievement that the PTI has risen from being a party of one in parliament to over 30 members. Moreover, unfavourable results do not mean that we stop emotionally and physically investing in this country. People’s choices must be respected. This nursing of the wounds is part of the larger process of making efforts to bind the country together.

The other interesting trend pertains to the image of regionalisation of politics. To an outside observer, Pakistan does not feel tied together. The PML-N has emerged as a big force in Punjab, the PTI in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, the PPP relegated to rural Sindh, the MQM in urban Sindh and Baloch and Pashtun nationalists in Balochistan. A lot of people are hugely angry on the PPP’s lacklustre performance of the past five years. So, one could argue that it got what it deserved. Notwithstanding the errors made by its leadership and erosion of ideology from the party, the fact remains that we are observing the breakdown of what was once the only genuine national party. The federation needs to be connected, which it is not at the moment. The PPP’s weakening as a party within Sindh itself will have repercussions for sociopolitical development in the region and its connection with the federation. The crippling of the party, for which the leadership is to blame as well, has and will create spaces which will be dominated by pro-establishment parties or the nationalists. In both cases, it does not bode well for the province or the federation. It is necessary to appease the disgruntled youth in Sindh who may be tempted to fight against the state, especially in reaction to the use of force by it. The number of missing people and dead bodies is increasing in the province.

The above narrative means that party or parties have to move rapidly to shun their character of being regional entities and reach out to other regions. In the past five years, the PML-N leadership has shied from visiting other provinces. At least, this is a complaint one heard from urban and rural Sindh. The PML-N winning seats in the Balochistan Assembly is a good sign. It now needs to do more to expand in other parts. Shedding the image of a Punjab-based leadership and party is necessary. The development agenda also has to extend beyond a single province.

As part of the effort to strengthen the federation, the ruling party at the centre will also have to look more carefully to the needs of south Punjab, which seems to have given a huge mandate to the party. As a region known for both poverty and popularity of the PPP, some were surprised to see the PML-N sweep elections there. This happened due to a combination of factors, such as the party aligning with emerging power centres in the region, especially those representing new capital. In some cases, it also partnered with electables from amongst the Seraiki-speakers, who were already disgruntled due to the PPP not properly marketing the idea of a new province of south Punjab and Bahawalpur. An ordinary voter was left with pragmatism to support a party that might win and deliver. But the more important thing is that the people have honoured the PML-N by putting their confidence in it. The best way of consolidating such gains is to not ignore the need for a new province and offering a plan for better distribution of resources even within Punjab. The PML-N has done well in improving Lahore but now it also needs to distribute development to other parts of the country and the province itself.

While the list of things that the new government ought to do is endless, the need for strengthening the federation should be one of the primary goals. Accepting the legitimacy of the electioneering process and legitimising political and development agendas through meeting people’s needs will go a long way.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/549648/the-day-after-may-11/

Runner Up
17th May 2013, 22:21
MQM boycotts repolling in NA 250

0tt0man
17th May 2013, 22:22
Is it true Asad Umar will contest by-elections from NA-48 Islamabad? Javed Hashmi has left it in favour of his Multan seat afaik.

Runner Up
17th May 2013, 22:24
Top 10 posters of this thread.

Already 98 pages, just two more pages needed for a century :D

waqar_ahmad
17th May 2013, 22:30
MQM boycotts repolling in NA 250

Good thing to do, when they know they will lose

waqar goraya
17th May 2013, 22:33
MQM boycotts repolling in NA 250

They do not want to be on the losing side

So, a seat confirmed for PTI :D

waqar_ahmad
17th May 2013, 22:34
We need repolling in all of karachi though. I bet PTI will win some more seats.

Badsha
17th May 2013, 22:38
PTI can win 2 seats from Karachi.

Mian Hassan
17th May 2013, 22:57
They are very good people and politicians. I know them personally and Awais Leghari did a lot of work for the IT industry.


They were independents. Had to join the ruling party

they joined PTI last year but left pti so they could play their cards like they have done now.

I even know Kashif abbasi congratulated Leghari in a interview for joining PTI and he said thank you and he thought Imran Khan was the perfect leader.

I am not saying that they haven't done anything I am just suggesting that they became independents when the elections approached

Badsha
17th May 2013, 23:01
they joined PTI last year but left pti so they could play their cards like they have done now.

I even know Kashif abbasi congratulated Leghari in a interview for joining PTI and he said thank you and he thought Imran Khan was the perfect leader.

I am not saying that they haven't done anything I am just suggesting that they became independents when the elections approached

Did you know why they left?


Imran Khan didn't give them the ticket from DG khan. They weren't to blame, come on.

In Imrans defense, he probably wanted newer faces.

baalti
18th May 2013, 06:47
khul-e-aam dhaandhli... lekin kisi ke sar peh jooN tak nahin reeng rahi, be it SC, ECP ...

baalti
18th May 2013, 06:49
i was speaking to one of my aunt's in chakwal area's and she told me that she was supposed to go to a polling station in which she got a letter for that she has to watch and help voters cast votes and do the normal process/duties as per supposed to be... when she got there, she was told that she isnt supposed to be there where clearly it was that station that she was supposed to... and then they told her lady we have enough ppl here, you should go home and we will send you the payment you were supposed to get as promised when you present this letter later on...

and voila... put 2 + 2 together...

LethalSami
18th May 2013, 08:25
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/316185_577807465582926_332912484_n.jpg

Maulana Diesel apnay diesel ka ahtemaan ker raha hai...

saadibaba
18th May 2013, 08:51
Top 10 posters of this thread.

Already 98 pages, just two more pages needed for a century :D

What a waste of time it was in hindsight. :danish

LethalSami
18th May 2013, 12:42
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/969822_261449384001932_1236243669_n.jpg

Waseem
18th May 2013, 14:44
PTI Melbourne doing their bit to protest against rigging

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310123_10151596989078817_1743187167_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/946427_10151596991428817_1818261917_n.jpg

Black Zero
18th May 2013, 17:28
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/969822_261449384001932_1236243669_n.jpg

good to see that pti empowering youth...and avoiding lotays,,

PTI
18th May 2013, 18:45
Haroon Rashid Speech after Elections.Worth Listening



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Markhor
18th May 2013, 18:54
Confirmed - JUI-F have joined the government at the centre.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-101468-JUI-F-to-join-federal-government-


ISLAMABAD: The JUI-F has announced its decision to join the federal government.

The decision was taken during the meeting of the party’s central working committee chaired by Maulana Fazlur Rehman. The PML-N had offered the JUI-F to join the federal government during an earlier meeting between Shahbaz Sharif and Rehman.

The central working committee during its meeting evaluated the offer of the PML-N. The meeting was also attended by Akram Durrani, Maulana Ghafoor Haideri , Gul Naseeb, Senator Talha Mehmood and other leaders of the JUI-F.

Waseem
18th May 2013, 19:03
Confirmed - JUI-F have joined the government at the centre.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-101468-JUI-F-to-join-federal-government-

As if there was ever a doubt :)

Markhor
18th May 2013, 19:11
What lotas JUI-F are, a PML-N-JUI-F coalition seems like a fundamentalist's dream ticket. Anyway, about 10/11 constituencies are going to undergo re-polling, or are being postponed, so no results there yet.

Waseem
18th May 2013, 19:27
Faizan Lakhani @faizanlakhani

Some sources sharing unofficial vote count at 137 polling stations of NA250 as Khushbakht Shuja’at 54,500 & @ArifAlvi 54,100.

Not sure if above is true but shows why MQM wants to boycott elections since re election is mostly in posh areas.

Markhor
18th May 2013, 19:59
Balochistan government formed

http://dawn.com/2013/05/17/three-political-parties-to-form-coalition-govt-in-balochistan/


QUETTA: The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), National Party and Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (PkMAP) have decided to form a coalition government in the province.

Akram Shah Khan, the Central Secretary General, PkMAP while addressing a joint press conference said that the slot of chief minister would be given to the PML-N.

“It has been decided in principle to form an exemplary coalition government,” Khan said.

He said all out efforts would be made by coalition partners to address the grievances of the Baloch masses.

Responding to a question, the newly nominated parliamentary leader of PML-N, Nawab Sanaullah Zehri said that he would make all possible efforts to take all political forces on board for durable peace in the violence-stricken province.

“Peace is my first priority,” Zehri said.

Chief of National Party, Dr Malik Baloch said that new coalition partners are determined to ensure good governance in the province.

“Despite the odds, we will deliver,” Baloch added.

“We believe in dialogue not use of force,” he responded to a question regarding initiating possible talks with Baloch resistance fighters in Balochistan.

Baloch said that they want peace and for this purpose meaningful dialogue would be started with all political forces.

Markhor
18th May 2013, 20:00
Bizarre numbers: Elections in Balochistan

Wow, have a look at this. Scarce turnout in Balochistan for the elections.

http://dawn.com/2013/05/18/bizarre-numbers-elections-in-balochistan/


IN a densely populated country where citizens are counted in tens of millions, the figures coming out of the polls in Balochistan are bizarre. The most remarkable is PB-41, Awaran, where voter turnout was a mere 1.18 per cent and the candidate that won had to take just 544 votes, with the runner-up coming in at 95. Only 672 of the 57,666 people registered to vote in the constituency actually did so. Similarly, in PB-50, Kech, the seat was won with just 1,385 votes, with 1,331 going to the politician who came in second. The other seven candidates collectively polled the ludicrous figure of 994 votes. Even where the figures are higher, the turnout in Balochistan is remarkably below the national average. This is true even if the demographics and the security situation are factored in. The turnout in PB-46, Kharan, for example, was relatively high but still, of the 45,176 registered voters, only 14,611 cast votes and the seat was won with just 3,418 votes.

It had been expected that the turnout in Balochistan would be low but these figures are shocking. Polling was disrupted or could not take place at all at a number of polling stations because of lack of staff and/or balloting material.

Also, militants had announced that they would impede the election process; the moderate nationalist parties that contested did so in face of the militants’ ire. What the ECP must do now is to investigate the numbers and ascertain how many polling stations were dysfunctional, and why. If more than 50 per cent of the polling stations are found to have been off-line, perhaps a re-poll should be considered with security beefed up more than previously, since that is far from a level playing field.

Waseem
18th May 2013, 20:02
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>JUIF may get Ministries of Religious Affairs and Housing in Federal Government with PMLN!</p>&mdash; Dr Shahid Masood (@Shahidmasooddr) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shahidmasooddr/status/335763429048606721">May 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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At least no one can call him Maulana Diesel :)

Markhor
18th May 2013, 20:03
JUI-F get the Ministry of Religious Affairs ? :facepalm:

That's it for the minorities then, LEJ/SSP are now going to act with utter impunity, time to get their bags packed and get out.

waqar goraya
18th May 2013, 20:44
LEJ/SSP have more links with N league than JUI F..

saadibaba
18th May 2013, 22:52
Was watching Talat's show and Khawaja Asif said "ye Tsunami tu Muslim shower bhi nahi nikla" :)))

HamzaSaeen
18th May 2013, 23:24
Was watching Talat's show and Khawaja Asif said "ye Tsunami tu Muslim shower bhi nahi nikla" :)))

heard that before from MQM leader babar ghauri on capital talk :)))

zimmz
18th May 2013, 23:27
^ of course these shameless creatures would make jokes of PTI now that they are 'elected' through grand rigging. Uncle SAM and Arab mullahs must be happy to have their poodles in power.

shan
18th May 2013, 23:30
heard that before from MQM leader babar ghauri on capital talk :)))

Funny coming from a MQM who only win in Karachi and that to with blatant rigging and militants support. Terrorist party should concentrate more on karachi.

HamzaSaeen
18th May 2013, 23:32
Funny coming from a MQM who only win in Karachi and that to with blatant rigging and militants support. Terrorist party should concentrate more on karachi.

I say terrorist party should be eliminated with an operation for the betterment of Karachi and Pakistan as a whole.

saadibaba
19th May 2013, 00:06
Never cared for Abrar Ul Haq but lost all respect for him after watching Talat's show of today. He denied a quote attributed to him by Cyril Almeida from Dawn and called Cyril a liar. Knowing how honest, unbiased and balanced Cyril's reporting has been throughout this election, its very hard to believe Cyril will just make something up and publish it. Very pathetic attempt by Abrar to save his face. At one point on the rigging issue he said the solution should be that both sides should bring Quran and swear upon it. Lol. This guy is totally clueless. Made me remember a show I watched some time back in which Jawad, another singer from Lahore ripped Abrar and his charity org. apart on a Kamran Shahid show. That was before Abrar joined PTI. This guy is not helping PTI's cause IMO.

Friend786
19th May 2013, 00:17
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Sindh vice president gunned down

http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=101525

Friend786
19th May 2013, 00:41
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I hold Altaf Hussain directly responsible for the murder as he had openly threatened PTI workers and leaders through public broadcasts.</p>&mdash; Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/335830688261623808">May 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Friend786
19th May 2013, 00:42
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I also hold the British Govt responsible as I had warned them abt Br citizen Altaf Hussain after his open threats to kill PTI workers.</p>&mdash; Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/335832314133221376">May 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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HamzaSaeen
19th May 2013, 00:43
my sixth sense says tomorrow will be repeat of 12 may 2007, hopefully not.

Runner Up
19th May 2013, 01:10
^^ I pray and hope that there will be peaceful elections.

Amen

farazaidi
19th May 2013, 01:12
I pray for citizens of karachi and Pakistan, we need peaceful elections tomorrow.

I hope Army takes full control of election proceedings tomorrow as MQM have already made their intentions clear !

Runner Up
19th May 2013, 02:24
Just watched a ticker on Geo where Imran Khan said "Ab Dharna Hoga"

Has PTI officially announced Dharna? I think Imran Khan was referring to his three days deadline.

insaftak
19th May 2013, 07:20
Isn't that Irfan Siddiqui? lol and people think these people are unbiased, neat and clean journalists. Let's see if we can find Ata ul Haq Qasmi and Mushtaq Minhas there as well.

:)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/944556_645519578797089_1419444095_n.jpg

waqar_ahmad
19th May 2013, 07:30
The army has to provide protection for karachi elections. Now it is just one constituency. The army can deploy enough troops to make sure there is no violence. If they cant, then they should be ashamed of themselves.

I have been saying this for a while now. There is no other way to deal with this ** other than protests, and Imran must lead them. I can be anything, that InshaAllah if Imran can mobilize these fed up people who are already protesting, to jointly protest, he will be unstoppable.

Bashira_taeli
19th May 2013, 12:28
Looks like the killing of Zahra Shahid has done its job, really low turnout for the NA-250 re-polling.

akhtar fan
19th May 2013, 12:50
Ppl are afraid to come out.
Deshadgard will have a eye on them. I mean mqm ;)

HamzaSaeen
19th May 2013, 13:23
Looks like the killing of Zahra Shahid has done its job, really low turnout for the NA-250 re-polling.

the people who are actually turning up are the patwaris probably who sell their vote for a plate of biryani or some rupees :facepalm:

waqar goraya
19th May 2013, 14:51
According to media news voter turn out is low ...

I think MQM's boycott , and their threats, combined with heat are the reasons for it...

But even if the turn out is as low as 25-30 percent , it means at least 10,000 voters will cast their votes, and among them around 80 percent would be voting for PTI...

According to media reports Dr. Arif Alvi was trailing only by 400 votes to Khushbakht Shujaat ...

waqar goraya
19th May 2013, 15:00
ECP has decided to hold re-polling at 47 stations in NA-230 (tharparkar) because of a report about irregularities received from district returning officer .....

According to the unofficial results announced by ECP , SMQ is winning here after the counting from other polling stations...

waqar goraya
19th May 2013, 15:02
Even if SMQ wins here , he will have to leave one seat either from Multan or Tharparkar....

And in case of him leaving any seat, N league and PPP governments wont let PTI to retain that seat...:(

MR__KHAN__JI
19th May 2013, 15:24
Protests will do nothing. ...

People voted...

They voted for corruption and status quo. ..

They don't want change



Revolutions only work when people want something better.

Pakistanis dont.

MR__KHAN__JI
19th May 2013, 15:27
It was 120 odd seats to 20 odd. :facepalm:

What's a protest for a single seat going to achieve?


Better to focus on asking and understanding why people voted for corruption... And then challenge that position....

Friend786
19th May 2013, 15:44
any news of imran khan's health? when is he getting up on his feet?

Bashira_taeli
19th May 2013, 15:48
'Naamaloom Afraad' bring Hyderabad to standstill

HYDERABAD: Tyres were set on fire and roads were blocked in Hyderabad by unknown men on Sunday, Express News reported.

Shops remained closed and less traffic was seen on the roads following the protest. Gun shots were also heard by citizens.

A van was set on flames in Pakka Qila, Do Qabar Chowk area and a loader van was set ablaze in Pinjra Pul area.

A PTI leader Muhammad Usman said that his house and hotel were attacked early morning and he was harassed and threatened. Usman’s car was set on fire while several shops near his house were broken in to.

Security forces could not be seen anywhere during the protest.

Unknown individuals protested on Hyderabad and Latifabad roads on Monday morning, reportedly in response to Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chief Imran Khan’s direct allegation on Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain.

On Saturday night, PTI leader Zahra Shahid Hussain was shot dead in Karachi. Imran Khan had held Altaf Hussain responsible for the murder.

Due to the critical situation in the city, markets , shops, petrol pumps and medical stores remained closed.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/551497/naamaloom-afraad-bring-hyderabad-to-standstill/

asifp
19th May 2013, 16:30
Voter turn out is very low. No queues nothing. Some people who voted last time did not even know they had to vote again.

asifp
19th May 2013, 17:52
It is incredible how openly some people could pre rig the elections.

Murdering a PTI person last night and then firing all night yesterday.

People dont' really like MQM right now. They have easily cheated Karachi out of 5-7 seats

PTI
19th May 2013, 18:01
The army has to provide protection for karachi elections. Now it is just one constituency. The army can deploy enough troops to make sure there is no violence. If they cant, then they should be ashamed of themselves.

I have been saying this for a while now. There is no other way to deal with this ** other than protests, and Imran must lead them. I can be anything, that InshaAllah if Imran can mobilize these fed up people who are already protesting, to jointly protest, he will be unstoppable.

This.
Only if PTI and IK realize that this election process is useless and if we dont stand up now than nothing will change even after 5 years.

waqar_ahmad
19th May 2013, 18:53
PTI is going to lose NA 250 coz MQM has succeeded in scaring PTI voters. If this happens, and PTI still doesnt protest with all full might, I would consider Imran as accepting defeat

asifp
19th May 2013, 19:05
According to a friend no one allowed to vote at polling station 138. He said there were around 1,500 to 2,000 people, most of them there to vote for PTI, but not allowed to vote as ballott papers were not there.

This is just incredible!

youboy
19th May 2013, 19:14
As per news channels reporting PTI leading in all three NA250, PS112 and PS113.

waqar_ahmad
19th May 2013, 19:18
^ MQM has a huge lead already from the previous polling. The repolling is on 43 polling stations only. And PTI voters are nos scared of coming out to vote.

So even if PTI wins the repolling, they wont be able to win the seat

B@$!T
19th May 2013, 20:09
there are some results coming in and pti leading in all of them on geo news

waqar goraya
19th May 2013, 20:16
^ MQM has a huge lead already from the previous polling. The repolling is on 43 polling stations only. And PTI voters are nos scared of coming out to vote.

So even if PTI wins the repolling, they wont be able to win the seat

Channels reported that Dr. Arif Alvi was trailing only by 400 votes to MQM in the other polling stations collectively ....

waqar_ahmad
19th May 2013, 20:58
Channels reported that Dr. Arif Alvi was trailing only by 400 votes to MQM in the other polling stations collectively ....

You mean PTI trailing by 400 in all poling stations combined in the entire NA250 constituency?

0tt0man
19th May 2013, 21:11
You mean PTI trailing by 400 in all poling stations combined in the entire NA250 constituency?
According to Faizan Lakhani's tweet yesterday, yes.

waqar_ahmad
19th May 2013, 21:19
According to Faizan Lakhani's tweet yesterday, yes.

I will be very surprised if PTI take this seat. PTI has clear support here, but according to what I have read, some polling stations have had less than 5% turnout, which means less votes for PTI.

Bewal Express
19th May 2013, 21:35
'Naamaloom Afraad' bring Hyderabad to standstill

HYDERABAD: Tyres were set on fire and roads were blocked in Hyderabad by unknown men on Sunday, Express News reported.

Shops remained closed and less traffic was seen on the roads following the protest. Gun shots were also heard by citizens.

A van was set on flames in Pakka Qila, Do Qabar Chowk area and a loader van was set ablaze in Pinjra Pul area.

A PTI leader Muhammad Usman said that his house and hotel were attacked early morning and he was harassed and threatened. Usman’s car was set on fire while several shops near his house were broken in to.

Security forces could not be seen anywhere during the protest.

Unknown individuals protested on Hyderabad and Latifabad roads on Monday morning, reportedly in response to Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chief Imran Khan’s direct allegation on Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain.

On Saturday night, PTI leader Zahra Shahid Hussain was shot dead in Karachi. Imran Khan had held Altaf Hussain responsible for the murder.

Due to the critical situation in the city, markets , shops, petrol pumps and medical stores remained closed.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/551497/naamaloom-afraad-bring-hyderabad-to-standstill/

These morons dont understand the irony of their actions. Imran says they are murderous thugs and to prove he is right they.........

Munna
19th May 2013, 21:41
As per Dunya News so far...

NA-250: Arif Alvi from PTI leading with 7925 votes and JI second with 232 votes

PS-113: Samar Ali from PTI leading with 2453 votes and PMLN second with 1162 votes from 9 polling stations

PS-112: Khurram Sher from PTI leading with 1520 votes and MQM second with only 7 votes

:)

Pak_Jazba
19th May 2013, 22:05
^ MQM has a huge lead already from the previous polling. The repolling is on 43 polling stations only. And PTI voters are nos scared of coming out to vote.

So even if PTI wins the repolling, they wont be able to win the seat

As far as Im aware both PPP and MQM have boycotted elections from that seat. I dont see how they can be awarded the seat now?

Pak_Jazba
19th May 2013, 22:06
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/165398_622090147818674_971967822_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13232_622090451151977_1982521047_n.jpg

Some photos from PTI Balochistan protest.

insaaniyat
19th May 2013, 22:52
It was 120 odd seats to 20 odd. :facepalm:

What's a protest for a single seat going to achieve?


Better to focus on asking and understanding why people voted for corruption... And then challenge that position....

If you know about American History, there was only one Rosa Park who challenged the system.

waqar goraya
19th May 2013, 23:33
Doctor Arif Alvi has crossed 14000 figure till now, in 35 polling stations :D

saadibaba
19th May 2013, 23:39
PESHAWAR: The Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) have announced names for three ministries in the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa provincial government.
Sirajul Haq, Inayatullah Khan and Habibur Rehman have been put forward for the ministries of education, zakat and finance.

So I guess we are looking at interest free banking and madrasah style schooling in KPK. Tabdeeli !

Runner Up
19th May 2013, 23:50
Imran Khan Official Facebook


We find it interesting that it is almost 11:00pm in Pakistan, and yet the Vote Count from just 43 polling stations of a single constituency - where as per media turnout was not more than 20% - is not complete but on 11th May by this time winners for entire Pakistan had been conclusively determined courtesy a handful of news outlets and victory speeches were delivered.

0tt0man
20th May 2013, 00:03
Dunya News reckons Arif Alvi has won from NA-250
http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakistan/174509-NA-250-PTI-candidate-Arif-Alvi-wins

shan
20th May 2013, 01:10
KARACHI: Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf's (PTI) Arif Alvi has won the NA-250 seat after re-polling was conducted in 43 polling stations of the constituency, DawnNews reported.

http://beta.dawn.com/news/1012319/na-250-pti-candidate-arif-alvi-wins

PakPrince
20th May 2013, 01:13
YESSS!!!

Proud to be from NA 250. Proud to be from a constituency that fought for its riots and didnt lie down and give up.

Lahore!!! Wake up and be brave

Runner Up
20th May 2013, 01:15
We don't know the total votes yet. The result so far is of 43 polling stations.

0tt0man
20th May 2013, 01:31
YESSS!!!

Proud to be from NA 250. Proud to be from a constituency that fought for its riots and didnt lie down and give up.

Lahore!!! Wake up and be brave
Errrr.... there are protests going on in Lahore since May 11 :|

Runner Up
20th May 2013, 01:33
Protest ended tonight in Lahore after Imran Khan's request.

Said get ready for protest in front of ECP Islamabad on May 24, 2013.

Eagle_Eye
20th May 2013, 03:18
Who originally won na250?

chacha kashmiri
20th May 2013, 03:24
nice result, although the boycott

i want to see someone compare how many votes the original victor got and how many alvi got in the re run

farazaidi
20th May 2013, 03:44
election process wasnt completed on 11th May, voting only started at these station at 5:30 - 6pm and few hours later ECP announced repolling in these stations. So we'll never know who would've won based on 11th may poll

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 04:27
Very important point raised by Runner up in post 7846. It took this long for the results to come out of one constituency, where turnout was around 20%. Yet on may 11, everything was so fast.

Once again, Imran must ask for repolling in all of karachi and most if not all areas of punjab.

Waseem
20th May 2013, 04:29
NA 250 Arif Alvi 77000, Khush Bakht 30,000 +

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 04:33
^ Final results? Or still counting?

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 04:37
Dont like repeating myself, but I cant stop thinking how PTI would have won more seats in karachi, and punjab.

zimmz
20th May 2013, 04:49
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>11th May results show that <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PTI">#PTI</a> was leading with 30K votes - makes sense as to why MQM boycotted they could not face defeat on paper</p>&mdash; Awab Alvi PTI@NA-250 (@DrAwab) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrAwab/status/336238603128680448">May 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

zimmz
20th May 2013, 04:51
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>its now further established that PTI won <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NA250">#NA250</a> on the 11th &amp; then won again on the 19th - can someone pass the hankie to "you know who" ;)</p>&mdash; Awab Alvi PTI@NA-250 (@DrAwab) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrAwab/status/336241492240764928">May 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LethalSami
20th May 2013, 05:06
http://www.supportimrankhan.org/PlayVideo/play.aspx?&id=915

Another confession from MQM thug


Support Imran Khan ‏@vote4ImranKhan 2h
Another confession from #MQM thug - Does anyone know Where is Chief Justice? Why is he not taking suo moto? #PTI

saadibaba
20th May 2013, 05:22
YESSS!!!

Proud to be from NA 250. Proud to be from a constituency that fought for its riots and didnt lie down and give up.

Lahore!!! Wake up and be brave

Freudian slip :P

Mystrey
20th May 2013, 07:03
Dont like repeating myself, but I cant stop thinking how PTI would have won more seats in karachi, and punjab.

I agree.

Its such a shame we won't ever know. Surely PTI would have done better atleast in Punjb

Anfield
20th May 2013, 07:04
Kudos to Arif Alvi. He fought very hard for this seat with never give up attitude.

PakPrince
20th May 2013, 08:27
Freudian slip :P

haha.. good one..

Bilbo
20th May 2013, 08:44
Pti also have won ps 112 and 113 in Karachi

Badsha
20th May 2013, 09:50
So I guess we are looking at interest free banking and madrasah style schooling in KPK. Tabdeeli !


Please stop judging political parties before they have performed


and even as a die hard pti supporter, our education policy was horrible. We were trying to make urdu the language of education .

Badsha
20th May 2013, 09:53
Very important point raised by Runner up in post 7846. It took this long for the results to come out of one constituency, where turnout was around 20%. Yet on may 11, everything was so fast.

Once again, Imran must ask for repolling in all of karachi and most if not all areas of punjab.

Waqar, you've become a bit of a wrist slitter.


Just admit it, we lost. The awaam DID by in large want N-league to win.


Yes, we were snatched from 10-13 seats that we deserved. (lahore, Narowal, okara ect where there was open rigging)


Imran should try and force re-polling in Narrowal and maybe NA 125 but we can't ask for more.

kasoo10
20th May 2013, 12:07
Move on guys, elections are over. This is all topi drama to distract from real issues. I am watching IK very closely, he has to show some character now. He has lost elections, rigging or no rigging. Can he show us how to loose gracefully or will he keep crying on it. I want to see the reconstruction of Pakistan begin yesterday. Power, water, stability, we need all these things immediately. What is the plan for that? Let us start with KPK.

AZ
20th May 2013, 12:23
IK giving up NA-56 and retain his Mianwali seat?



Yes, we were snatched from 10-13 seats that we deserved. (lahore, Narowal, okara ect where there was open rigging)

:)) :)) :))

then why did IK only point out 4 seats which he was most concerned about?

please, grow up and enough with this immature **.

Badsha
20th May 2013, 12:45
IK giving up NA-56 and retain his Mianwali seat?



:)) :)) :))

then why did IK only point out 4 seats which he was most concerned about?

please, grow up and enough with this immature **.

IIRC he wanted re-counting with finger prints on 25 NA seats.


I can personally name a few I know.


In Narrowal there was khulai-aam rigging


and I know people who were in NA 125 who told me how your favorite Khwaja Saad Rafique was telling us to go and not vote for PTI.

LethalSami
20th May 2013, 12:51
Arguing with AZ is like arguing with a :farhat supporter...

...Futile

Badsha
20th May 2013, 12:56
Arguing with AZ is like arguing with a :farhat supporter...

...Futile

Or a man who supports Khwaja Saad Raffique after these elections. I'm LMAO'ing at what a fraud he turned out to be when AZ said, 'woh acha banda hai'.

Well, you can't blame AZ for not minding. After all, he's a PML N supporter who doesn't admit he supports a party. :msd

AZ
20th May 2013, 13:12
:)) in Narowal there was khulay-aam rigging...you were there I suppose?

oh lemme guess, Twitter High Court proved it right? :)) :))

funny how there is SO much evidence yet no-one is taking PTI's claims seriously...quite an incompetent party it seems :imran

LethalSami
20th May 2013, 13:22
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wbXC_FDua_M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

@AZ, when CJ is a cousin of Rana Sanaullah, even Twitter HC will pass a better judgement than SC if it involves Noora League :moyo

AZ
20th May 2013, 13:27
Orya Maqbool Jan, the Zaid Hamid of news anchors...and of course Mubasher Lucman :)) :))

Insafians really need to get a better class of news anchor to fight for them.

raamu kaka
20th May 2013, 13:28
IK giving up NA-56 and retain his Mianwali seat?



:)) :)) :))

then why did IK only point out 4 seats which he was most concerned about?

please, grow up and enough with this immature **.

Oh wadday genius....

Did u want Ik to ask for recount on all 272? He wants recount with thumb impression on 4 seats which would help support his claim of rigging, if bogus voting gets proven... 25 seats are those where Ik feels PTI was sure shot winner n their mandate has been stolen.


And yes!! we all know, Saad Rafique is unbeatable :*****

raamu kaka
20th May 2013, 13:30
Orya Maqbool Jan, the Zaid Hamid of news anchors...and of course Mubasher Lucman :)) :))

Insafians really need to get a better class of news anchor to fight for them.

kitna hansaata hai tu yaar :danish

Badsha
20th May 2013, 14:15
:)) in Narowal there was khulay-aam rigging...you were there I suppose?

oh lemme guess, Twitter High Court proved it right? :)) :))

funny how there is SO much evidence yet no-one is taking PTI's claims seriously...quite an incompetent party it seems :imran


Twitter ect are saying there is rigging everywhere.



Two friends from Okara called me and said there was khulai aam rigging.


As for Narowal, There are videos of ballot boxes thrown around.

Abrar-ul-haq showed ballot papers stamped by shairs without any names in big amounts.


Also ML showed an SMS that Abrar sent BEFORE the elections of how Ahsan Iqbal (and we all know how big of a ghunda he is) was threatening people to vote for him.



Jo bhi hai, I can't help but laugh at Khwaja Saad Rafique being exposed like this.

LethalSami
20th May 2013, 14:19
Orya Maqbool Jan, the Zaid Hamid of news anchors...and of course Mubasher Lucman :)) :))

Insafians really need to get a better class of news anchor to fight for them.

better learn to form a better argument than ":)):))"

coz Not a single word you said was in response to that vid.

LethalSami
20th May 2013, 14:27
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/309995_10151400842996766_1507426355_n.jpg

I want to see Noora league's actions (NOT words) on this issue...........considering they're a product of NRO 2.0, have my fingers crossed and pray for those innocents murdered and made to live like its 9/11 everyday:moyo

B@$!T
20th May 2013, 14:46
btw can anyone tell me what suo moto means?

FAM
20th May 2013, 15:53
btw can anyone tell me what suo moto means?

On their or its own initiative, without external prompting or explicit demand.

Waseem
20th May 2013, 16:16
Move on guys, elections are over. This is all topi drama to distract from real issues. I am watching IK very closely, he has to show some character now. He has lost elections, rigging or no rigging. Can he show us how to loose gracefully or will he keep crying on it. I want to see the reconstruction of Pakistan begin yesterday. Power, water, stability, we need all these things immediately. What is the plan for that? Let us start with KPK.

I don't think you have been following these elections closely then, PTI has moved on and you can read more stories in media about formation and strategies of KPK government than even federal government. Point is if you are a candidate and have witnessed rigging yourself, would you move on without even asking to double checK? How difficult is it to re count on 4-5 seats confirming thumb impression?

Check this for example (still waiting for FINAL result), Jahangir Tareen of PTI who apparently lost by few thousand votes may actually win his seat after recount. There are news that 25000 bogus votes have been discovered during re count and still going, his opponent may even win in the end but don't think it's better to recount for everyone's peace of mind?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941902_178670098958843_863876567_n.png

Would you move on quietly when this happens?

the Great Khan
20th May 2013, 17:09
Move on guys, elections are over. This is all topi drama to distract from real issues. I am watching IK very closely, he has to show some character now. He has lost elections, rigging or no rigging. Can he show us how to loose gracefully or will he keep crying on it. I want to see the reconstruction of Pakistan begin yesterday. Power, water, stability, we need all these things immediately. What is the plan for that? Let us start with KPK.

we're actually watching altaf bhai very closely now. Considering his party has failed in 10 years to give karachiites peace and tranquility! I suggest you worry about your great leader as the pressure to bring him to account will continue! Inshallah the end of the MQM has begun!

PTI
20th May 2013, 17:11
Orya Maqbool Jan, the Zaid Hamid of news anchors...and of course Mubasher Lucman :)) :))

Insafians really need to get a better class of news anchor to fight for them.

I know you must be in love with Mushtaq Minhas and Irfan Siddique.Right?

AZ
20th May 2013, 17:12
nope, never watched their shows.

Waseem
20th May 2013, 17:32
:)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/944556_645519578797089_1419444095_n.jpg

Hahahah...Manhoos didn't disappoint.

AZ
20th May 2013, 17:38
better learn to form a better argument than ":)):))"

coz Not a single word you said was in response to that vid.

go read his ******** columns, you will get your answer.

Lucman's credibility is already in the gutter as it is.

baalti
20th May 2013, 18:46
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shan
20th May 2013, 19:22
6 independents from FATA have joined N.

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 19:29
Waqar, you've become a bit of a wrist slitter.


Just admit it, we lost. The awaam DID by in large want N-league to win.


Yes, we were snatched from 10-13 seats that we deserved. (lahore, Narowal, okara ect where there was open rigging)


Imran should try and force re-polling in Narrowal and maybe NA 125 but we can't ask for more.
Depends on how you think about it.

If this kind of stuff happened in urban areas, one can only imagine what went on in semi urban and rural areas. When PTI can dent MQM in Karachi, defeat Ch Nisar and defeat saad rafique only for him to cheat to win, then why cant they win against lesser candidates?

wasim-fan
20th May 2013, 20:20
Smokers’ Corner: Lurching for meaning

I’m sure, by the time this column appears on these pages, a lot has already been said, written and investigated about the rather stunning results produced by the May 11 election.

It was interesting to note that, alas, though the electronic and social media is effective in generating hype and virtual commotions, they do not necessarily impact voting trends the way one was expecting them to.

If one believed in the sustained hype about PTI’s ‘tsunami’ in the social media, he or she was understandably left mouthing incoherent and disoriented gibberish on Twitter and Facebook the moment it became clear that PMLN would bulldoze all opposition, especially in the Punjab.

Not only was PTI drubbed severely in the Punjab by PMLN, it could not even go past the number of seats won by the PPP — a party that was pushed into the corner by threats and attacks by the TTP and came to the election as a highly unpopular outfit after spending five chaotic and mismanaged years as the outgoing ruling party.

In Sindh where, according to the electronic media, PMLF and the Sindhi nationalists were set to finally topple the PPP’s traditional supremacy, they simply failed to even slightly check the PPP’s sprint towards victory. The PPP ended up winning a comfortable majority in both the national as well as provincial assembly elections in the region.

However, the electronic media was correct in predicting the success of the MQM, the major party of Sindh’s capital, Karachi. The party managed to retain its electoral hold in the city, even though PTI accused it of rigging the election.

The truth is, even if one takes back a chunk of the votes that the MQM received, it will still manage to win in Karachi. Those residing outside Karachi, or for that matter, away from the more congested areas of the city, have yet to figure out the rather complex and paradoxical nature of the party’s electoral popularity among the Urdu-speaking majority in Karachi and in parts of Hyderabad.

MQM cannot be defeated in Karachi with lofty middle class idealism and moralism or with flag-waving patriotism. Not only are these perceived by MQM voters to be tools and excuses to undo the economic and political interests of the city’s Urdu-speakers, these also don’t unclog gutters, mend electricity wires, and guarantee regular water supply to areas far way from trendy boulevards and shopping malls of Clifton and Defense.

Apart from PMLN’s stunning show in the Punjab, the other most interesting bits about the election was the way PTI managed to gather a semblance of respectability by winning big in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KPK).

Though the media did allude to PTI’s growing popularity in KP, however, during the last few weeks of the election campaign, when the province’s outgoing ruling party, the ANP, was suffering a continuous series of brutal assaults by the extremists, TV channels began to float the idea that the ANP might benefit from a sympathy wave.

Nothing of the sort happened and the party was rudely wiped out by PTI that managed to win the largest number of seats in KP.

But perhaps the most noteworthy bit, at least to me, was to see how Peshawar in KP and Rawalpindi in the Punjab voted. Both these cities went to the PTI.

Rawalpindi was swept by the left-liberal PPP in the 1970 and 1977 election. It gave a split verdict between the PPP and the conservative PML (IJI), in the 1988 election, before falling completely in the lap of PMLN throughout the 1990s.

The PPP did manage to win a few seats here in the 2002 and 2008 election, but Rawalpindi remained to be a PMLN stronghold until this year’s election.

PTI dislodged PMLN’s supremely here on May 11, and ironically, it did so in an election in which the PMLN completely swept the rest of the Punjab!

Peshawar where PTI enjoyed a clean sweep on May 11, has turned out to be an even more (if not the most) temperamental city when it comes to elections. Its seats were shared between the left-wing NAP and the right-wing JUI in 1970.

Then between 1988 and 1997, these seats altered between the PPP and the left-liberal ANP before going completely to the right-wing alliance of religious parties, the MMA in the 2002 election.

In 2008, Peshawar re-adjusted itself and once again voted for the secular ANP and the PPP, only to obliterate both these parties in 2013 and give the centre-right PTI all four of its seats.

Some observers believe that whereas voting in Rawalpindi still takes place on the basis of ideology — reflecting Punjab’s shift from left to right ever since 1990 — voting trends in Peshawar however, always exhibit the city’s pragmatic nature where its Pashtoon and Hindko voters are merciless in judging both left and right parties purely on the basis of performance.

http://dawn.com/2013/05/19/smokers-corner-lurching-for-meaning/

the Great Khan
20th May 2013, 20:59
MQM cannot be defeated in Karachi with lofty middle class idealism and moralism or with flag-waving patriotism. Not only are these perceived by MQM voters to be tools and excuses to undo the economic and political interests of the city’s Urdu-speakers, these also don’t unclog gutters, mend electricity wires, and guarantee regular water supply to areas far way from trendy boulevards and shopping malls of Clifton and Defense.

neither do the MQM. The apologists of terror multiply!

Bewal Express
20th May 2013, 21:14
go read his ******** columns, you will get your answer.

Lucman's credibility is already in the gutter as it is.

I would trust him over the crooks of PML any day of the week. Each of their parliamentarians will already be planing to get a return on their investsment, afterall all those biryanis they paid for at their rallies dont come free. Some people will never lose their serf mentality!

Vegitto1
20th May 2013, 21:28
Both PTI supporters and AZ have valid points. We cannot escape from the fact that journalists in Pakistan have chosen sides and their own bias shows when they write about a certain individual, party or an issue.

However, we should use our common sense, coupled with a few independent news outlets and form our on opinions instead of pointing towards a journalist view point to drive a point home. Unless reference is being made in relation to investigative journalism.

Now AZ, so far 25,000 votes have been found to be bogus in NA-154. Do you not think it's fair to uphold almost all requests for a re-count put forward by PTI? Mainly in NA 125 and NA 122?

the Great Khan
20th May 2013, 21:34
SMQ has been attacked by "naamaloom afraad" and is on his way to the aiport under rangers protection.!

The liberal secular freedom loving MQM strikes again!

wasim-fan
20th May 2013, 21:43
neither do the MQM. The apologists of terror multiply!

But where did he justify MQM 's presence ?

the Great Khan
20th May 2013, 22:07
But where did he justify MQM 's presence ?

bachay you need to read between the lines.

hussain ahmed
20th May 2013, 22:57
in pakistan,elections are all abt bunch of robbers take their turns and looting nations assets.so much for democracy.

Badsha
20th May 2013, 23:46
Depends on how you think about it.

If this kind of stuff happened in urban areas, one can only imagine what went on in semi urban and rural areas. When PTI can dent MQM in Karachi, defeat Ch Nisar and defeat saad rafique only for him to cheat to win, then why cant they win against lesser candidates?

I see were you're coming from. You do have a point.

It's like that student who always fails and finally gets an A grade but is told "No, you're getting a C"


I've sort of settled for a C while I know we deserve more.

Badsha
20th May 2013, 23:47
Both PTI supporters and AZ have valid points. We cannot escape from the fact that journalists in Pakistan have chosen sides and their own bias shows when they write about a certain individual, party or an issue.

However, we should use our common sense, coupled with a few independent news outlets and form our on opinions instead of pointing towards a journalist view point to drive a point home. Unless reference is being made in relation to investigative journalism.

Now AZ, so far 25,000 votes have been found to be bogus in NA-154. Do you not think it's fair to uphold almost all requests for a re-count put forward by PTI? Mainly in NA 125 and NA 122?

AZ wont reply and if he will, it will be full of calling PTI supports burgers and twitter army and "oh pti is too mainstream for me"

waqar goraya
20th May 2013, 23:49
In their campaign N league candidates and leadership kept giving deadlines for ending load shedding...They kept saying that Shahbaz Sharif will be Power Minister and will end load shedding in 2 to 3 years ....

Now neither Shahbaz Sharif is going to be Power Minister nor they are ready to give any deadline...

First noora punch even before taking oath...:)))

waqar goraya
20th May 2013, 23:51
Yep, 5 or 8 more seats would have not set the world on fire for PTI....

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 23:57
I see were you're coming from. You do have a point.

It's like that student who always fails and finally gets an A grade but is told "No, you're getting a C"


I've sort of settled for a C while I know we deserve more.

Badshas never settle for Cs :)

Even with rigging, PTI defeated political heavyweights. One can only imagine what would have happened had the elections been fair. When a party can win seats with 20 something year olds and defeat the likes of Ameer Muqam, when they can dent MQM in their den, then I firmly believe that PTI would have been the dominant party in KP and Punjab, and would have won more seats in Karachi.

I will never settle for this C, and I want Imran to come out and fight. He has changed pakistani politics a lot. PTI ran a modern and effective election campaign that at least I have never seen in pakistan.

Imran must fight and take what's rightfully his and ours. I am happy that ECP didnt allow recounting in many areas. I wanted Imran to come out and protest, and lead a march. And that is exactly what he is doing on May 24.

waqar_ahmad
20th May 2013, 23:58
In their campaign N league candidates and leadership kept giving deadlines for ending load shedding...They kept saying that Shahbaz Sharif will be Power Minister and will end load shedding in 2 to 3 years ....

Now neither Shahbaz Sharif is going to be Power Minister nor they are ready to give any deadline...

First noora punch even before taking oath...:)))
Does any of this surprise you? There is a reason this party and there supporters are called nooras. They have no idea what they are talking about, they never do

AZ
21st May 2013, 00:18
Both PTI supporters and AZ have valid points. We cannot escape from the fact that journalists in Pakistan have chosen sides and their own bias shows when they write about a certain individual, party or an issue.

However, we should use our common sense, coupled with a few independent news outlets and form our on opinions instead of pointing towards a journalist view point to drive a point home. Unless reference is being made in relation to investigative journalism.

Now AZ, so far 25,000 votes have been found to be bogus in NA-154. Do you not think it's fair to uphold almost all requests for a re-count put forward by PTI? Mainly in NA 125 and NA 122?

if there is a genuine case for it then by all means, not on a whim.

Re-count for what in 125 and 122, just because PTI lost?

Hamid Khan actually won comfortably in the DHA polling stations.

Badsha
21st May 2013, 00:31
Badshas never settle for Cs :)

Even with rigging, PTI defeated political heavyweights. One can only imagine what would have happened had the elections been fair. When a party can win seats with 20 something year olds and defeat the likes of Ameer Muqam, when they can dent MQM in their den, then I firmly believe that PTI would have been the dominant party in KP and Punjab, and would have won more seats in Karachi.

I will never settle for this C, and I want Imran to come out and fight. He has changed pakistani politics a lot. PTI ran a modern and effective election campaign that at least I have never seen in pakistan.

Imran must fight and take what's rightfully his and ours. I am happy that ECP didnt allow recounting in many areas. I wanted Imran to come out and protest, and lead a march. And that is exactly what he is doing on May 24.



I can get where you're coming from.

Still I'm not sure if we should go out and protest. If Imran Khan says to protest, I will. And maybe this is what you're saying as well. If Imran does decide to lead a march, a lot of people like me will get convinced.

But it's gone too far now. Maybe if IK wasn't on a hospital bed we could've protested for re-elections. Right now, we can protest for Re-Elections or at least finger print counting on the 25 NA constituencies that have solid proof of rigging.

waqar_ahmad
21st May 2013, 00:38
I can get where you're coming from.

Still I'm not sure if we should go out and protest. If Imran Khan says to protest, I will. And maybe this is what you're saying as well. If Imran does decide to lead a march, a lot of people like me will get convinced.

But it's gone too far now. Maybe if IK wasn't on a hospital bed we could've protested for re-elections. Right now, we can protest for Re-Elections or at least finger print counting on the 25 NA constituencies that have solid proof of rigging.

Why do you think it's gone too far?

Badsha
21st May 2013, 00:42
Why do you think it's gone too far?

N-league already in talks of making the government. The world has congratulated Nawaz Sharif ect

Markhor
21st May 2013, 00:46
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22558474

One of the best things about elections is the graphics - hover over each constituency.

waqar_ahmad
21st May 2013, 00:47
@Badsha

Yaar come on, that doesnt matter. NS gave a victory speech when only 15% of the votes had been counted. What's wrong is wrong.

Vegitto1
21st May 2013, 01:47
if there is a genuine case for it then by all means, not on a whim.

Agreed. PTI has provided strong evidence to ECP in relation to 26 NA seats.

Re-count for what in 125 and 122, just because PTI lost?

Well. PTI team believes that they have a evidence to prove rigging against their candidates on at least 26 NA seats. However, they have proposed that ECP to carry out re-counting on just 4 out of those 26.

Now if rigging is established on those 4 then the ECP must address the matter on the remaining 22 seats and if there is no rigging then PTI will not insist for a re-count on the remaining 22 seats.

Hamid Khan actually won comfortably in the DHA polling stations.

Nothing is certain until and unless we have a re-count my friend. Finally, I fail to understand why would someone who genuinely won worry about a re-count, they should actually insist for one, win again and then rub it in.

Eagle_Eye
21st May 2013, 02:23
^ because he knows its like a house of cards...... One gets proven to be rigged and the whole thing falls apart.

Vegitto1
21st May 2013, 03:18
^ because he knows its like a house of cards...... One gets proven to be rigged and the whole thing falls apart.

Well if rigging has taken place then I'm sure AZ too would support re-polling in those constituencies.

Just know this, we do not want "stability" by means of rigged elections and nor do we intend to stay quiet and wait another 5 years. We will fight now so that we can teach ECP and all those involved in rigging that we will no longer tolerate incompetence and rigging.

Indiafan
21st May 2013, 03:20
@Badsha

Yaar come on, that doesnt matter. NS gave a victory speech when only 15% of the votes had been counted. What's wrong is wrong.

Dude I know people of Pakistan are not much used to elections but this naivete' is ridiculous. When we had elections in Karnataka recently, all TV channel had announced which party was going to win and who gets how many seats, two weeks before the votes even began to be counted. And yes, congress was already smug and BJP had almost accepted defeat. And all the channels were exactly right when the vote counting was finished

In today's age of exit polls and projections, you don't need to wait for the official complete count of vote. That doesn't indicate fixing

waqar goraya
21st May 2013, 03:20
Noora update :

Mulak par itna qarsa hai jo pehla kabhi nhi tha, khazana khali hai...pehla qarz utaren ya bijli ka bohraan khtm kren ? (Nawaz Sharif ka aaj ka khitaab )

What do you guys say ? They should end energy crisis first or repay the loan ??

Ishaq dollar is going to be Finance Minister yet again..:(

waqar_ahmad
21st May 2013, 03:25
Dude I know people of Pakistan are not much used to elections but this naivete' is ridiculous. When we had elections in Karnataka recently, all TV channel had announced which party was going to win and who gets how many seats, two weeks before the votes even began to be counted. And yes, congress was already smug and BJP had almost accepted defeat. And all the channels were exactly right when the vote counting was finished

In today's age of exit polls and projections, you don't need to wait for the official complete count of vote. That doesn't indicate fixing

You should read the entire chain to understand what I was referring to. It has nothing to do with exit polls and predicting results

zimmz
21st May 2013, 04:38
Noora update :

Mulak par itna qarsa hai jo pehla kabhi nhi tha, khazana khali hai...pehla qarz utaren ya bijli ka bohraan khtm kren ? (Nawaz Sharif ka aaj ka khitaab )

What do you guys say ? They should end energy crisis first or repay the loan ??

Ishaq dollar is going to be Finance Minister yet again..:(

haha the excuses have started coming out....forget bullet train noora fans :D

aur yeh bijli ka bohran kiya hal karen gay jo khud bijli kay bill nahi pay kartay for last 106 months...

ITTEFAQ FOUNDRIES of Nawaz Sharif has not paid Rs. 40,436,412.00 to LESCO for using electricity from last 106 months. Its connection has not even been DISCONNECTED as you can see in the Status. Why ? You know the answer. Here is the link to the LESCO Top Defaulters page (Sr # 12):

http://www.lesco.gov.pk/News&Media/5000071.asp

Noora shareef crippling awam with increase loadshedding these days and increasing the price per unit. As soon they official take cahrge, they will reduce the price agian and reduce teh load shedding to claim credit for fulfilling the 'promise'. That's all they can do. A proper drama!

waqar_ahmad
21st May 2013, 04:43
Noora update :

Mulak par itna qarsa hai jo pehla kabhi nhi tha, khazana khali hai...pehla qarz utaren ya bijli ka bohraan khtm kren ? (Nawaz Sharif ka aaj ka khitaab )

What do you guys say ? They should end energy crisis first or repay the loan ??

Ishaq dollar is going to be Finance Minister yet again..:(

Typical noora speech, for typical noora voters.

NS said he cant give any dates for ending load shedding. Then why did SS say he will do it within 2 years?

baalti
21st May 2013, 05:47
Noora update :

Mulak par itna qarsa hai jo pehla kabhi nhi tha, khazana khali hai...pehla qarz utaren ya bijli ka bohraan khtm kren ? (Nawaz Sharif ka aaj ka khitaab )

What do you guys say ? They should end energy crisis first or repay the loan ??

Ishaq dollar is going to be Finance Minister yet again..:(

berry berry nice... :asadrauf

the ppl who gave them the dhandhli full mandate should suffer now... and hopefully next time they vote PPPP... coz PTI to burger bacha party hai... zardari will be ready to save them.... :farhat

baalti
21st May 2013, 05:47
Typical noora speech, for typical noora voters.

NS said he cant give any dates for ending load shedding. Then why did SS say he will do it within 2 years?

haan par nawaz ney toh nahin kaha tha na... faraq hai.. samjha karo... :umarakmal

Waseem
21st May 2013, 06:06
I have heard that the load shedding has actually increased in the last few weeks so when Nawaz Sharif takes oath, it goes down from 20 hours to 16 hours and people will think they are in heaven already :-)

Nawaz Sharif ki wah wah and clapping all around, drama continues.....

baalti
21st May 2013, 06:10
I have heard that the load shedding has actually increased in the last few weeks so when Nawaz Sharif takes oath, it goes down from 20 hours to 16 hours and people will think they are in heaven already :-)

Nawaz Sharif ki wah wah and clapping all around, drama continues.....

yaar app logon ka masla kya hai, kyon yeh sari cheezain sar-e-aam kar rahay hain... nawaz ney itni mushkil se aik do plans tiyaar kiye hain, paani mut phairo yaar... :asadrauf


and i cant wait for the awam to get pumped by having load shedding from 20 hours to 19 hours only coz of Nawaz ji :facepalm:

Waseem
21st May 2013, 07:07
yaar app logon ka masla kya hai, kyon yeh sari cheezain sar-e-aam kar rahay hain... nawaz ney itni mushkil se aik do plans tiyaar kiye hain, paani mut phairo yaar... :asadrauf


and i cant wait for the awam to get pumped by having load shedding from 20 hours to 19 hours only coz of Nawaz ji :facepalm:

Lol just heard Sheikh Rasheed saying exactly the same thing as well, like him or hate him but his interviews are more interesting than majority of politicians in Pakistan. I always thought he would change but he has had a consistent stance in the last 5 years and looks like he is determined to work with Imran.

baalti
21st May 2013, 07:34
Lol just heard Sheikh Rasheed saying exactly the same thing as well, like him or hate him but his interviews are more interesting than majority of politicians in Pakistan. I always thought he would change but he has had a consistent stance in the last 5 years and looks like he is determined to work with Imran.

imagine agar yeh banda anchor ban jaye lolz :yk

Anfield
21st May 2013, 08:53
Lol just heard Sheikh Rasheed saying exactly the same thing as well, like him or hate him but his interviews are more interesting than majority of politicians in Pakistan. I always thought he would change but he has had a consistent stance in the last 5 years and looks like he is determined to work with Imran.

Oh he's going to change for sure, don't lose your hope yet.

Anfield
21st May 2013, 08:53
He again mentioned motorway today :facepalm:

LethalSami
21st May 2013, 10:35
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/579257_579601988736807_222558912_n.jpg

Nalayk league's tune has changed since May 11

:facepalm:

sher ban gaya gid'r

Badsha
21st May 2013, 10:37
Hahahah it's that paindoo khwaja saaad again

saadibaba
21st May 2013, 10:45
Interesting how suddenly PML-N leadership have discovered the nuances of foreign policy and diplomacy. After berating PPP for the last five years they have started singing to the same old tune. Funny how quickly things change when one gets into higher office.

LethalSami
21st May 2013, 10:49
Interesting how suddenly PML-N leadership have discovered the nuances of foreign policy and diplomacy. After berating PPP for the last five years they have started singing to the same old tune. Funny how quickly things change when one gets into higher office.

they are the same status-quo.........NRO 2.0

that's what :ik has been saying for years......most of the sheep didn't listen....so suffer 5 more years...

LethalSami
21st May 2013, 11:46
Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital and Research Centre
Imran Khan Back On His Feet (May 21, 2013)

This morning, Mr. Imran Khan was fitted with a specially designed spinal support, or brace. Following this, he stood upright and unsupported for the first time since his injury two weeks ago. He had a series of X-rays of his spine which confirmed continued healing and excellent alignment of his back bones. His X-rays were reviewed by a team of radiologists and surgeons who were very pleased with the results. Shortly thereafter, Imran walked unaided for over 300 metres. He remained pain-free throughout this time. We anticipate that Imran will Inshallah, be discharged from hospital tomorrow afternoon. He will continue to receive regular physiotherapy and is likely to need to wear the spinal support for some weeks to come. Imran will gradually increase physical activity over the next few weeks with a return to his full functional capacity expected in approximately six to eight weeks.

As in the past, Mr. Imran Khan will be paying the entire cost of his hospitalization at Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital and Research Centre. He has been touched by the numerous offers to pay for his care made by friends and well-wishers and has asked that anyone wishing to do so make a contribution to the care of the poor cancer patients at Shaukat Khanum instead.

Tiger is up. Excellent News

LethalSami
21st May 2013, 11:51
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310105_570602422990467_1529648332_n.jpg

Mystrey
21st May 2013, 14:57
Interesting how suddenly PML-N leadership have discovered the nuances of foreign policy and diplomacy. After berating PPP for the last five years they have started singing to the same old tune. Funny how quickly things change when one gets into higher office.

Berating?

Unless I have been sleeping five years when did they berate PPP? All my vivid memory tells me is how they stood with PPP throughout on every single big issue.

:/

waqar goraya
21st May 2013, 15:44
It tells it all ......lovely work from the cameraman :)

Boht showbaazi ho gayi , now its time to deliver.....!

Vegitto1
21st May 2013, 19:16
Nawaz: Nihari ke foran baad pani peena chahiye?

Shahbaz: Is table ke neeche se 2 under-pass aur upar 3 fly-overs kese lagtey

shehzi
21st May 2013, 19:30
100 pages

Markhor
21st May 2013, 21:21
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-101903-May-11-voter-turnout-stood-at-55-percent:-ECP

May 11 voter turnout stood at 55 percent: ECP

PTI come second in the popular vote.


ISLAMBAD: The voter turnout in Pakistan’s historic May 11 election stood at 55 percent, showing a rise of 10.77 percent compared to 2008 polls in which the turnout was recorded at 44.22 percent, according to details issued by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP).

According to the figures released by the ECP, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) bagged 10.4865 million votes; Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) secured 7.679 million; Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) 6.55 million and; Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) clinched 2.458 million votes in Elections 2013.

The ECP statistics further disclosed that 46.2 million people exercised their right of franchise during the recent polls in Pakistan. Turnout for the National Assembly election was 55.2 percent and for the provincial assemblies 55.26.

According to the record, the lowest turnout of 11.57 was registered on NA-42 in tribal area while the highest turnout was recorded in NA-191 Bahawalnagar where 84.77 percent voters came out to fulfill their national obligation.

baalti
21st May 2013, 21:30
thora peechay hat jao, yeh mass gathering bohat bari hai, might spill over through your screens...

One of many where the masses truely turned up to show their support for AH and anger at IK

The New York Police who are obviously IK fans, and or influenced by Pro taliban told them to all shut up and go home

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FznGseIPKu8?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=575746072470762

baalti
21st May 2013, 21:41
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923507_376397829132245_317851526_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/945248_199098860239441_1845677888_n.png

HamzaSaeen
21st May 2013, 21:54
century of pages mubarak... 100th page this.

baalti
21st May 2013, 22:41
wow... nawaz ji... talking about getting udhaar's (loans) already ... good try on concealing it within the statements... but wont fly... pehlay itnay serious thay app, dhandhli bhara mandate milnay ke baad app ko jugtain hi jugtain aa rahi hain, khair teh hai paai jaan...

saadibaba
21st May 2013, 22:59
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-101903-May-11-voter-turnout-stood-at-55-percent:-ECP

May 11 voter turnout stood at 55 percent: ECP

PTI come second in the popular vote.

I read somewhere that the turnout in the non-pashtun areas of Balochistan was around 3%. If that is correct than its a travesty. Basically the part of Pakistan which truly deserves our attention and needs public representation more than anyone, just went through an election without any participation or change. I am not sure if it was security, lack of good options or just a general sense of resentment towards politics and political forces that made the turnout so low but whatever it was, its sure is a dark spot on the face of our democracy.

Bilbo
21st May 2013, 23:04
33201

baalti
22nd May 2013, 02:33
Nawaz Sharif's solution for Pakistan's energy crisis - Who is dumb and who is dumber?

Nawaz Sharif and his team have already started to meet the expectations that I set for them after they won the elections 2013. He and his team members have made the following key points regarding the energy crisis:


Nawaz Sharif has directed his to-be finance minister Ishaq Dar to arrange PKR 500 billion by obtaining a loan from anywhere to give temporary energy relief
Nawaz Sharif has also indicted that his government will look to buy 1,000 MW energy from India
Sartaj Aziz too indicated that his government will buy energy from other countries to provide temporary energy relief
Sartaj Aziz has also suggested that Pakistan will be able to reap the benefits of Shale Gas in the form of reduced energy costs
Above all, Nawaz Sharif said that claims made by Shahbaz Sharif to end the energy crisis in a specific time frame were only emotional talks - He said that he couldn't give any time frame to end the energy crisis



Let's analyse these points:

PKR 500 billion loan
3rd time PM-elect doesn't know that more loan will mean more burden to the economy and it'll be common people who will pay this off in the form of ever higher inflation. Higher inflation means that the energy prices will increase too. Higher energy prices will also contribute to the circular debt. Circular debt is one of the key factors behind the energy crisis. What will happen by going round and round? We will still have the same energy crisis or even worse even after taking this fresh loan. Well done Mian Sahab, tussi great ooo.


1,000 MW energy from India / buying energy from other countries

Are these countries going to give free energy to Pakistan as an election victory gift to Nawaz Sharif? If not, why not use the existing spare energy generation capacity within Pakistan? How this is different from the short term Power Rental projects started by Raja Rental? Well done Mian Sahab, tussi great ooo.

Shale Gas

Shale gas is doing well in the US but it is still a (comparatively) new concept in other parts of the world including Europe. Gas prices in Europe are only going one way - UP, UP and UP. Yet, Sartaz Aziz is pinning his hopes on the Shale gas to help the energy crisis situation in Pakistan in the next 1 - 3 years - How ambitious, or should I say how idiotic? Well done Mian Sahab, tusi great ooo, thadi team bhi great aey.

No time frame

Good tactics, ins't it? Younger brother kept selling dreams during the election campaigns and after winning the elections the elder brother tells his fellow countrymen to ignore what the younger brother said as he was acting crazy during the elections speeches. Still, no time frame to address the energy situation!!! Why??? We heard that a very competent Noon league think thank had already put together all the policies in place. They said that as soon as they assume power they would implement those great policies and everything will be hunky dory within the first 2 -3 years.

Effectively he said that his younger brother was crazy therefore just ignore him - and keep following the carrot you donkeys.

Well done Mian Sahab, tusi great ooo, thadi team bhi great aey.

Concluding remarks

I hope and pray that Nawaz Sharif will be fully exposed within a very short time (thus meeting my expectations) and will be kicked-out by the enraged public of Pakistan, the majority of which did vote him in, Aameen!

Request for help from readers

I can't decide who is dumb and who is dumber between Nawaz Sharif and the Pakistan nation who voted him in. Please share your thoughts.

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A good read...

baalti
22nd May 2013, 02:37
اصف زرداری کل اپنے سب سے بڑئ سیاسی چال چلنے جا را ہے، جس میں وہ چین کے ساتھ نیو کلئیر معاعدہ کرے گا، اور چین سے بجلی سمیت بہت سے شعبوں میں کام شروع ہوگا۔۔۔

ایران پائپ لائن گیس منصوبہ، اور گوادر کو چین کے حوالے کرنے پر امریکہ پہلے ہی زرداری سے ناراض ہے، اور کل کے بعد زرداری اور پاکستان پر امریکہ کو بہت غصہ ہو گا۔۔ کیونکہ امریکہ کو چائنہ ایک انکھ نہیں بھاتا ہے، اور سعودی عرب کو ایران نہیں بھاتہ ہے۔۔
اس سب کے بعد نواز شریف کے لئے بہت مشکلات پیدا ہو جائیں گی، کیونکہ سعودی عرب پہلے ہی نواز شریف پر دباو ڈال رہا ہے کہ ایران گیس لائن منصوبہ ختم کیا جائے، اور امریکہ چین سے گوادر پوٹ واپس لینا چاہتا ہے۔۔

اب نواز شریف عوام کو ناراض کرتے ہیں یا امریکہ اور سعودی عرب کو دیکھتے ہیں۔۔۔

کیونکہ گوادر پوٹ اور ایران گیس پائپ لائن منصوبہ اور کل کے نیوکلئیر معاعدے پاکستان کے مستقبل کے لئے بہت لازمی اور فائدے مند ہیں

baalti
22nd May 2013, 02:37
PESHAWAR: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) has sought the help of an elderly pro-Taliban cleric to initiate peace talks with the militants, party officials said Tuesday.
The political party approached Sami Ul-Haq, nicknamed the “Father of the Taliban”, after emerging from elections as the largest party in the troubled northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

K-P is on the frontline of a nearly seven-year domestic Taliban insurgency and suffers near-daily bomb and shooting attacks blamed on militants.
Party chairman Imran Khan has called for an end to military operations and peace talks with the Taliban, making his party’s victory in the northwest a significant development.
Imran has vowed to put together a provincial coalition government in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and turn it into a “role model” for the rest of the country.
“We will talk to all stakeholders for establishment of peace in our province, meeting with Maulana Samiul Haq was a part of that,” Shaukat Yousafzai, a party leader who won a seat for the party in the provincial assembly told AFP.

Samiul Haq is chief of his own faction of the religious Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-S) party and runs a madrassa that educated several Taliban leaders.
Yousafzai said a PTI delegation led by Pervez Khattak, the incoming provincial chief minister, met Samiul Haq late Monday.
Hamidul Haq, the cleric’s son and a former MP, confirmed to AFP that PTI leaders came to seek support.
“They asked Samiul Haq to play his role in establishment of peace in the province,” Haq said. “Samiul Haq told the delegation that he will play his role in establishment of peace and initiation of peace talks.”

Pakistan’s incoming prime minister Nawaz Sharif on Monday said he was open to talks with the Taliban, saying bringing peace was one of his top priorities.
Pakistan’s umbrella Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) movement in February signalled its willingness to enter peace talks with the government but also stepped up attacks against Sharif’s rival Pakistan People’s Party and its main allies, drastically curtailing their ability to campaign during the election.

Previous Pakistani governments, as well as the military, have forged ad hoc peace deals with insurgent factions in various parts of the northwestern tribal belt, which have often broken down quickly.
The Taliban, who denounce democracy as un-Islamic, killed more than 150 people during the election campaign, including 24 on polling day itself.

Taliban spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan had said the insurgents would “wait until political parties form their government” but told AFP before the polls that anyone who “comes into conflict with Islam” would be targeted.
Suicide, bomb and gun attacks blamed on Taliban and al Qaeda-affiliates have killed nearly 6,000 people since July 2007, according to an AFP tally.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/552372/pti-seek-cleric-help-in-taliban-peace-talks/

baalti
22nd May 2013, 02:42
Good read...

ماروی سرمد کی خفیہ داڑھی اور مولونا محمد نواز کی پوشیدہ بندیا
فیسبک کالم ؛ فرحت عباس شاہ
پاکستان کی سیاسی تقدیر کو بین الاقوامی معاشی مقابلے بازی سے علیحدہ کرکے دیکھنے والے حقیقت تک پہنچنے سے رہ جاتے ھیں۔ کوئی ایک بدنصیبی تھوڑی ہے، پچھلے 50 سالوں سے پاکستان پر قابض گروہوں کے ذاتی اثاثے پاکستان کی ریاست کے اثاثوں سے کئی گُنا بڑھ چکے ھیں لیکن پاکستانی قوم کی ایک بڑی تعداد ابھی تک اس سچائی کو تسلیم کرنے پر تیار نہیں۔ جن لوگوں نے رائے عامہ ھموار کرنی تھی انہوں نے اپنی قیمتیں وصول کر لیں۔ امتیاز عالم اور ماروی سرمد جیسے دانشور غیر ملکی سرمائے سے پاکستانی میڈیا انفلوئنس کی سیل پرچیز پر لگے ہوئے ہوں اور غیر ملکی پیسے سے سرگرم عمل این جی اوز مسلسل معاشرتی ابہام پیدا کرنے مین لگی ہوئی ہوں تو تو سچ اور جھوٹ کا اندازہ کہاں سے ھوگا۔ میں نے کچھ سال پہلے ایک نئےآدمی کو مختلف ٹی وی چینلز پر نئی باتیں کرتےسُنا ۔ وہ ایک نہایت پُرجوش اور منطقی انداز سے دنیا بھر میں فساد برپا کرنے والی قوتوں کو بے نقاب کرتا نظر آیا۔ میری پچاس سالہ طبعی زندگی اور پینتیس سالہ ادبی و صحافتی زندگی میں ، میں نے پہلی دفعہ کسی کو اس بے باکی، دانائی اور علم کیساتھ بین الاقوامی سازشوں کو آشکار کرتے دیکھا۔ انسانیت دشمنی سے لیکر تاریخی بد بختیوں کے تانوں بانوں کی تار پود کو ادھیڑتا یہ درویش سید زید زمان حامد تھا۔ پہلا تا ئثر جو اسے سن کے میرے اندر پیدا ہوا وہ یہ تھا کہ یہ جس دلیری سے بین الاقوامی ظالموں کو للکار رہا ہے اب دیکھیں اس پر جوابی حملہ کس سمت سے ہوتا ہے۔ پھر میں نے اس پر پہلا حملہ سیفما کی ماروی سرمد کی طرف سے ہوتا دیکھا۔ سیفما کے بارے میں میں نے لاہور کے بہت سےصحافیوں سے سن رکھا ہے کہ اس کے پاس اربوں روپئے کے فنڈز ھیں اور زیادہ تر یہ ادارہ سامراجی فساد سازوں اور ھندوستانی سازشی عناصر کی زبان بولتا نظر آتا ہے ۔ کسی زمانے میں سوشل ازم کا دم بھرنے والے امتیاز عالم اس ادارے کے کرتا دھرتا ہیں جو اب لبرلازم کا ئلم اٹھائے نظر آتے ہیں اور پاکستان میں نظریاتی بگاڑ پیدا کرنے کی زمہ داری کے عوض مختلف غیر ملکی اداروں سے کروڑوں روپئے حاصل کرتے ہیں ۔ پھر میں نے زید حامد پر دوسرا حملہ مجلس ختم نبوت کی طرف سے ہوتا ہوا دیکھا جن کی کوشش تھی کہ کسی طرح اسے پیغمبری کا یا امام مہدی ھونے کا دعویٰ کرنے والا ثابت کرکے واجب القتل قرار دے دیا جائے۔ زید حامد پر یہ دو ظرفہ حملہ دیکھ کر مجھے ماروی سرمد کے خوبصورت چہرے پر ایک مہندی لگی لمبی سی داڑھی اگتی نظر آئی اور مولانا صاحب کے ماتھے پر لگی خفیہ تلک یا بندیا صاف دکھائی دینے لگی اور میری زبان پر ایک مشہور زمانہ شعر چُرمُرا کر رہ گیا کہ ۔ ۔ ۔
ایک ہی صف میں کھڑے ھوگئے مولانا اور امتیاز ۔۔۔نہ کوئی سرمد ماروی رہی اور نہ کوئی مولانا محمد نواز
پھر مجھے معروف سوشلسٹ دانشور اور لیڈر ڈاکٹر لال خان اور دنیا ٹی وی کے تجزیہ نگار سعید قاضی دونوں کا سیاسی تناظر یاد یاد آیا جس کے مطابق دنیا میں معاشی بربریت کرنے والے ایک طرف سے مذہبی انتہا پسندوں کے ہتھیار سے تو دوسری طرف سے نام نہاد لبرل ازم کی علمردار کرائے کی این جی اوز کے زریعے دنیا کو اپنے خونی شکنجوں میں لیے ہوئے ہیں۔ زید حامد پر تیسرا حملہ مسٹر مولانا آصف علی زرداری کے ٹی چینل کیپیٹل ٹی وی کی طرف سے ھوا اور چوتھا کسی فوجی ادارے کی طرف سے۔ انسانیت ، اسلام اور پاکستانیت کا دم بھرنے والے ایک سچے آدمی پر چاروں طرف سے حملہ آور ہونے والے مافیا نے آخری وار میڈیا کو زید حامد کی ٹاک شوز میں شمولیت سے روک کے کر دیا۔
سمجھدار لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ عمران خان کو امریکہ کے خلاف کھلے بیانات نہیں دینے چاہیے تھے۔ سرمایہ داری نظام اور امریکہ کے خلاف بات کرکے کوئی موت یا زندگی بھر کی ناکامی سے کیسے بچ سکتا ہے۔ اس بات کا علم شاید زید حامد کو بھی ہے ، اسی لیے تو وہ کہتا ہے کہ میری منزل یا تو خلافت راشدہ کے نظام عدل کا نفاذ ہے یا پھر شہادت۔ جب کہ امتیازعالم ، ماروی سرمد اور مولانا محمد نواز دونوں نے لگتا ہے ایسے ہر آدمی کو جو دنیا پر معاشی تسلط قائم رکھنے والے بھیڑیوں کے خلاف آواز اُٹھاتا ہو کو جھوٹا اورپاگل قرار دینے یا گستاخ رسول قرار دے کے مار دینے کے پیسے پکڑے ہوئے ھیں۔
ان حالات میں اگر کوئی پاکستان کی معاشی و سماجی آزادی کے خواب دیکھتا ہے تو دیوانہ ہی ہے چاہے وہ عمران خان ہو یا نواز شریف ۔

saadibaba
22nd May 2013, 03:12
^^^

As per this article, Zaid Hamid is a saint. No need to even go in details, nuff said.

saadibaba
22nd May 2013, 03:18
PESHAWAR: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) has sought the help of an elderly pro-Taliban cleric to initiate peace talks with the militants, party officials said Tuesday.
The political party approached Sami Ul-Haq, nicknamed the “Father of the Taliban”, after emerging from elections as the largest party in the troubled northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

K-P is on the frontline of a nearly seven-year domestic Taliban insurgency and suffers near-daily bomb and shooting attacks blamed on militants.
Party chairman Imran Khan has called for an end to military operations and peace talks with the Taliban, making his party’s victory in the northwest a significant development.
Imran has vowed to put together a provincial coalition government in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and turn it into a “role model” for the rest of the country.
“We will talk to all stakeholders for establishment of peace in our province, meeting with Maulana Samiul Haq was a part of that,” Shaukat Yousafzai, a party leader who won a seat for the party in the provincial assembly told AFP.

Samiul Haq is chief of his own faction of the religious Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-S) party and runs a madrassa that educated several Taliban leaders.
Yousafzai said a PTI delegation led by Pervez Khattak, the incoming provincial chief minister, met Samiul Haq late Monday.
Hamidul Haq, the cleric’s son and a former MP, confirmed to AFP that PTI leaders came to seek support.
“They asked Samiul Haq to play his role in establishment of peace in the province,” Haq said. “Samiul Haq told the delegation that he will play his role in establishment of peace and initiation of peace talks.”

Pakistan’s incoming prime minister Nawaz Sharif on Monday said he was open to talks with the Taliban, saying bringing peace was one of his top priorities.
Pakistan’s umbrella Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) movement in February signalled its willingness to enter peace talks with the government but also stepped up attacks against Sharif’s rival Pakistan People’s Party and its main allies, drastically curtailing their ability to campaign during the election.

Previous Pakistani governments, as well as the military, have forged ad hoc peace deals with insurgent factions in various parts of the northwestern tribal belt, which have often broken down quickly.
The Taliban, who denounce democracy as un-Islamic, killed more than 150 people during the election campaign, including 24 on polling day itself.

Taliban spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan had said the insurgents would “wait until political parties form their government” but told AFP before the polls that anyone who “comes into conflict with Islam” would be targeted.
Suicide, bomb and gun attacks blamed on Taliban and al Qaeda-affiliates have killed nearly 6,000 people since July 2007, according to an AFP tally.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/552372/pti-seek-cleric-help-in-taliban-peace-talks/

Wonder if Mr.Salman Ahmad will now write an open letter to IK or soon to be CM Pervez Khattak. After all, Taliban have not only threatened but killed several singers, musicians and banned all sorts of musical expression in KPK.

insaftak
22nd May 2013, 03:26
Yeh thread abhi tak chal rahi hai, Election Khatam ho gaye hain... time to move on. Time for Imran Khan and PTI to deliver in KPK.

shan
22nd May 2013, 19:19
"The PML-N is on top with its candidates for the National Assembly securing 14.86 million votes as against 6.78m in 2008. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) which had boycotted the 2008 elections has succeeded in making inroads into the strongholds of other parties across the country. It has become the second largest party with 7.67m votes."

http://dawn.com/2013/05/22/pml-n-bagged-119pc-more-votes-than-in-2008/

This is **, so PTI got half the votes even with epic rigging but still not enough seats compared to N. I dont like this system at all, the votes seem wasted if candidate doesnt win.

Runner Up
22nd May 2013, 19:34
Judgment has come in favour of Saad Rafique. He won NA 125

Dharna gaya bekar..... ab kya kare ga Sarkar ?

waqar_ahmad
22nd May 2013, 19:49
^ Were you expecting anything different?

May 24 ko dharna ho ga.

Also, Hamid Mir has tweeted that he has just received some big evidence of rigging that he will show to the public. And after seeing that, ECP members should resign

Runner Up
22nd May 2013, 20:05
I thought Hamid Mir is pro PML-N

But anyways lets see what he brings and I really hope the evidence are against PML-N

Or may be against MQM?

Markhor
22nd May 2013, 20:34
"The PML-N is on top with its candidates for the National Assembly securing 14.86 million votes as against 6.78m in 2008. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) which had boycotted the 2008 elections has succeeded in making inroads into the strongholds of other parties across the country. It has become the second largest party with 7.67m votes."

http://dawn.com/2013/05/22/pml-n-bagged-119pc-more-votes-than-in-2008/

This is **, so PTI got half the votes even with epic rigging but still not enough seats compared to N. I dont like this system at all, the votes seem wasted if candidate doesnt win.

Haha, welcome to the British electoral system !

Only under the First Past the Post system can a minority of the votes be turned into a majority of the seats.

Over here in 2005, Labour won 35% of the vote, yet got a thumping 66 seat majority and 55% of the seats and over half of the votes were wasted.

This is hardly democratic.

However full proportional representation results in perpetual coalitions and horse trading.

Under FPTP:

Person A can get 30,000 votes.
Person B - 25,000 votes.
Person C - 20,000 votes.

Yet person A wins, DESPITE 45,000 people voting against him !

HamzaSaeen
22nd May 2013, 20:39
Haha, welcome to the British electoral system !

Only under the First Past the Post system can a minority of the votes be turned into a majority of the seats.

Over here in 2005, Labour won 35% of the vote, yet got a thumping 66 seat majority and 55% of the seats and over half of the votes were wasted.

This is hardly democratic.

However full proportional representation results in perpetual coalitions and horse trading.

Under FPTP:

Person A can get 30,000 votes.
Person B - 25,000 votes.
Person C - 20,000 votes.

Yet person A wins, DESPITE 45,000 people voting against him !
this is exactly why I hate democracy...

Black Zero
23rd May 2013, 03:34
Haha, welcome to the British electoral system !

Only under the First Past the Post system can a minority of the votes be turned into a majority of the seats.

Over here in 2005, Labour won 35% of the vote, yet got a thumping 66 seat majority and 55% of the seats and over half of the votes were wasted.

This is hardly democratic.

However full proportional representation results in perpetual coalitions and horse trading.

Under FPTP:

Person A can get 30,000 votes.
Person B - 25,000 votes.
Person C - 20,000 votes.

Yet person A wins, DESPITE 45,000 people voting against him !

logic fail


election is based on "vote-for" and not on "vote-against"

Bilbo
23rd May 2013, 03:37
33210

Vegitto1
23rd May 2013, 03:58
logic fail


election is based on "vote-for" and not on "vote-against"

Purpose of an election is to bring us democracy. the Majority chooses their leader.

When 45000 don't vote for you and only 30000 do then you can't claim to represent the majority.

Ideally, all candidates from a constituency should contest. After the first count, re-polling should take place but with only the top two candidates from the first count contesting.

Round 1

A = 40,000 votes (Winner)
B = 35,000 votes ( Runner-up)
C = 15,000 votes
D = 10,000 votes

Round 2

A = 45,000 votes
B = 55,000 votes ( Winner)

shan
23rd May 2013, 04:04
In lahore PTI got 600k votes compared to N 1.1million. So how about dividing Lahore seats according to votes? Instead of PTI with just 1 seat compared to N 12.

baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:09
as i said earlier... AAZ met the Chinese PM... (basically giving NS a kick in the rear as he is a US pithoo)

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baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:29
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2013-daily/22-05-2013/updates/5-22-2013_147220_1.gif

arsalan660
23rd May 2013, 06:30
as i said earlier... AAZ met the Chinese PM... (basically giving NS a kick in the rear as he is a US pithoo)

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from where do you get this??

baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:37
Tabdeeli aa gai hai...and if you say its just a gimmic... why hasnt anyone else ever held a jharo for a photo-op... believe in change....

PTI KPK MPA Yasin Khalil safai mohim ka aghaz kerta huwa.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943325_10151670802958383_765820423_n.jpg

baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:39
from where do you get this??

not that i have to go in deep details... nawaz ji wants to give gawadar port from china to US and same with the gas line from iran... us doesnt like that aswell and he said that in his speech from a couple days back... and on the other hand, zardari is busy trolling nawaz ji by strengthning the ties between PAk-China hence trying to make it further difficult for nawaz ji to break away from China on gawadar and other projects.... :asadrauf

baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:42
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baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:44
PTI to build 7 model cities in KPK: Asad Qaisar

Asad Qaisar, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Provincial President, said on Tuesday that the PTI government would build seven model cities at divisional level in the province.

Talking to TheNation, he said that model cities would be built in seven divisions, including Peshawar, Bannu, Kohat, Dera Ismail Khan, Mardan, Malakand and Hazara of the KPK.
He said that they wanted to provide adequate education and health facilities in these model cities. "We have planned to provide facilities of international standard in these cities," he added.–Staff Reporter

Source: http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/22-May-2013/pti-to-build-7-model-cities-in-kpk-asad



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unless like nawaz ji and only certain parts of lahore in punjab....

baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:50
AH ki pant gili aur dheeli ho rahi hai due to PTI...

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baalti
23rd May 2013, 06:52
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for full article...

http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20130523/Sub_Images/1101850815-2.gif

arsalan660
23rd May 2013, 09:15
not that i have to go in deep details... nawaz ji wants to give gawadar port from china to US and same with the gas line from iran... us doesnt like that aswell and he said that in his speech from a couple days back... and on the other hand, zardari is busy trolling nawaz ji by strengthning the ties between PAk-China hence trying to make it further difficult for nawaz ji to break away from China on gawadar and other projects.... :asadrauf

I also have reservations on giving Gwadar port to China. Pakistan should have control on Gwadar port rather than any other country.

baalti
23rd May 2013, 10:57
I also have reservations on giving Gwadar port to China. Pakistan should have control on Gwadar port rather than any other country.

Agreed, but of late or in the distant past name any key developmental or structural project that Pak kept under its own belt and didn't assign to another country... whay you are asking for here is what PTI is promising...

waqar goraya
23rd May 2013, 17:28
PTI to build 7 model cities in KPK: Asad Qaisar

Asad Qaisar, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Provincial President, said on Tuesday that the PTI government would build seven model cities at divisional level in the province.

Talking to TheNation, he said that model cities would be built in seven divisions, including Peshawar, Bannu, Kohat, Dera Ismail Khan, Mardan, Malakand and Hazara of the KPK.
He said that they wanted to provide adequate education and health facilities in these model cities. "We have planned to provide facilities of international standard in these cities," he added.–Staff Reporter

Source: http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/22-May-2013/pti-to-build-7-model-cities-in-kpk-asad



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unless like nawaz ji and only certain parts of lahore in punjab....

I hope they are talking about converting these existing towns into model towns,..

Otherwise this is just like Danish Schools system or Laptop scheme

Markhor
23rd May 2013, 17:35
logic fail


election is based on "vote-for" and not on "vote-against"

Not at all, tactical voting is rife. People do often vote to keep a party out, especially if it is a safe seat.

Plus it is a weak mandate, the MP should have more than 50% of the vote. At least two-thirds of UK MPs are minority MPs because of this perverse FPTP system.

Waseem
23rd May 2013, 17:58
I hope they are talking about converting these existing towns into model towns,..

Otherwise this is just like Danish Schools system or Laptop scheme

Yes i agree, model towns should be existing ones rather than new. Problem with Danish schools kind of projects was that they were building new ones when money should have been spent on existing schools first.
I doubt they have enough money to build model towns anyway.

shakil
23rd May 2013, 20:48
Purpose of an election is to bring us democracy. the Majority chooses their leader.

When 45000 don't vote for you and only 30000 do then you can't claim to represent the majority.

Ideally, all candidates from a constituency should contest. After the first count, re-polling should take place but with only the top two candidates from the first count contesting.

Round 1

A = 40,000 votes (Winner)
B = 35,000 votes ( Runner-up)
C = 15,000 votes
D = 10,000 votes

Round 2

A = 45,000 votes
B = 55,000 votes ( Winner)

Those people who voted for C and D will most likely not vote again in Round 2 because they were only supporting C or D. This is the most common scenario as people usually vote for only one party (PTI supporters, PPP or even Noon supporters). Also it is wasteful to ask the same 40,000 and 35,000 people to vote again in Round 2 to the same person (and removing their names for voters list would still be difficult and expensive).

The best way to overcome this problem is to define small constituencies i.e. Constituencies with at max 50,000 population so that the runner ups have more chances of winning (because there are greater number of constituencies). To understand this consider the US system where even 1 vote mean someone sitting as opposition.

To conclude, Democracy is good if combined with local body system and small constituencies so that the individuals elected are known personally by the voters and the vote is not based on blind party worship (esp. PTI and PPP)

zimmz
23rd May 2013, 21:43
IK's rare video

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=474420395961420

Bilbo
24th May 2013, 02:10
Tabdeeli aa gai hai...and if you say its just a gimmic... why hasnt anyone else ever held a jharo for a photo-op... believe in change....

PTI KPK MPA Yasin Khalil safai mohim ka aghaz kerta huwa.

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Show off!

Bilbo
24th May 2013, 05:00
33221

PTI
25th May 2013, 14:13
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Badsha
25th May 2013, 14:37
Thank God Umar Ayub lost.

Friend786
25th May 2013, 17:14
when is the new government taking oath?

Waseem
25th May 2013, 19:11
Stunning Lahore these days :)
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Waseem
25th May 2013, 19:14
Thank God Umar Ayub lost.

Maybe the biggest "bad naseeb" in Pakistan who got 110,000 + votes and still lost :-)

waqar_ahmad
25th May 2013, 19:35
It is strange that PTI's requests for recounting are being rejected. Starting to have my doubts about the CJ too now

Runner Up
25th May 2013, 19:39
CJ is noon ka banda. Why would CJ harm noon? because of noon he is sitting on CJ seat.

baalti
25th May 2013, 20:20
CJ is noon ka banda. Why would CJ harm noon? because of noon he is sitting on CJ seat.

i think he is related to rana-sana-ullah as well... :zaka

baalti
25th May 2013, 20:38
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baalti
25th May 2013, 20:40
alright, so in NA 19, PMLN filed a case of rigging and for recounting, (where a PTI member had won the NA seat), the courts ok'd the recounts, the recounts were done and PTI still won the seat...

now wat is stopping or is the problem of the court to okay PTI's request to recount just 4 constituencies....

baalti
25th May 2013, 20:41
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baalti
25th May 2013, 20:45
. 6:19:24 PM ہفتہ, 25 مئی 2013
لاہور: تحریک انصاف نے تمام پارلیمانی عہدوں پر امیدوار نامزد کردیئے ہیں۔ پارٹی کے اجلاس کے بعد میڈیا سے گفتگو کرتے ہوئے پی ٹی آئی کے رہنما شاہ محمود قریشی نے کہا کہ تحریک انصاف نے جاوید ہاشمی کووزارت عظمیٰ کاامیدوار نامزد کردیا ہے جبکہ تحریک انصاف کیپارلیمانی لیڈرعمران خان ہوں گے۔ شاہ محمودقریشی نے مزید کہا کہ اسپیکر کیلئے شہریار آفریدی اور ڈپٹی اسپیکیر کیلئے منزہ حسن امیدوار ہوں گے جبکہ عارف علوی تحریک انصاف کے چیف وہپ ہوں گے۔ghjhj

baalti
25th May 2013, 20:51
Jamshed Dasti already ditched PMLN and (hold your horses)... is going to JUIF...

Pak_Jazba
25th May 2013, 21:14
Javed Hashmi has been nominated for PM from PTI.

Badsha
25th May 2013, 22:26
Javed Hashmi has been nominated for PM from PTI.

Opposition party can have PM? :/

Markhor
25th May 2013, 22:28
Opposition party can have PM? :/

There is usually a vote to confirm the Prime Minister I think in the NA. So Hashmi will probably be PTI's candidate although with PML-N's majority, it will of course be the self-proclaimed Mr 'Amir-ul-Momineen' himself who will win the confirmation vote.

Badsha
25th May 2013, 22:52
There is usually a vote to confirm the Prime Minister I think in the NA. So Hashmi will probably be PTI's candidate although with PML-N's majority, it will of course be the self-proclaimed Mr 'Amir-ul-Momineen' himself who will win the confirmation vote.

Of course, the Amil-ur-Momineen will be there to lead us!

Runner Up
26th May 2013, 00:15
Foreign Reporter: Naya Pakistan Ban Gaya?
PTI Worker: Nahi wo hamara Mistri gir gaya tha :D

baalti
26th May 2013, 01:37
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