View Full Version : I am sorry But Inzamam should not captain the team
I dont know much about cricket but I know if the momentum is going against you , you slow the game down, Inzi did nothing, he waits for things to happen, I knowthe bowling by sami and rana was awful but I dont think inzi plans or thinks about captaincy.
This guy has got to go his reccord is awful . look at how he is treating Younis Khan , The guys is your vice captain get him involeved but i saw inzi giving him the cold shoulder all day long, dude what the Fudge.
has 786
9th March 2005, 22:46
No need to apologise
Lightning
9th March 2005, 23:06
well done, great thread.
the true passionist
10th March 2005, 00:03
well what can Inzi do?
just forget for once the current match...
consider that Arshad Khan will play the next game...
replacing Sami or Rana...
nd Razaq would be opening the bowling!!!!!!!!!!!
can any1 imagine...a person not good enough to be in the team will be the strike bowler...
this day had to come in Pakistan cricket!!!!!!
Fessal
10th March 2005, 00:52
It dosent matter who the captain is when u have %hit bolwers at disposal and 5hit fielders and catchers who merley are more like spectators. It dosent matter if Steve Waugh was captaining this side as it would still get the same results. You can make anyone your captain but dosent make a difference with a crap side. Similarly anyone can captain with ease a side full of match winners.
What could Inzya sk Younis? what advise could Younis give him?? If i was inzy i wouldnt talk to younisn for a while as he dropped an elementary catch. I would be mad at him.
gfx
10th March 2005, 01:05
I agree. The batting, bowling and fielding has all been poor so far. The only exceptions are Inzi and Asim batting and Kaneira bowling.
When a bloody moron like Taufiq Umar drops such a crucial catch what can you say... Al this after he bats to 44 and gives more chances in 44 than the entire Indian team is likely to give us 2day.
hasanahmad
11th March 2005, 06:35
After Imran khan publicly said that inzamam is not performing both as a captain and a batsman inzamam has had a 50 in every single match including in australia
tahaqureshi
11th March 2005, 06:51
agreed....and somehow i feel that this is precisely the reason imran said it..
midwicket
11th March 2005, 07:26
Didn't he get 0 and 1 in the first test in Australia? And then closed shop until the ODIs ;-)
Officer Barbrady
11th March 2005, 07:27
Didn't he get 0 and 1 in the first test in Australia? And then closed shop until the ODIs ;-)
For the records, Imran said that after the test series.
Flirta-P
11th March 2005, 10:55
o leave inzy alone him with asim our the only fighters in our team when it comes 2 batting sadly.
Oxy
11th March 2005, 11:01
Without Inzi, we would be facing a 2 day defeat!!!
Saqlain_doosra
11th March 2005, 11:55
Without Inzi, we would be facing a 2 day defeat!!!
Thats a fact. Without him we would be fighting against lower teams for positions
The great batsman was totally unfazed by the trouble Pakistan were in. Indeed despite batting in a weak line-up, he never looks like he is feeling the pressure when he bats.
Because of his temperament he can play naturally even when his side is in deep bother. His temperament combined with his indisputable talent enabled him to play those 3 classy drives early in his innings. The straight drive, followed by a skilful back foot cover drive, and finished off with a wonderful front foot cover drive, set the tone for a magnificent innings.
Certainly along with Javed Miandad the best batsman produced by Pakistan.
Officer Barbrady
11th March 2005, 12:31
He has looked in very good touch in both innings which is a good sign for the rest of the series.
No doubt a class above the rest and the ease with which he played was a treat to watch.
Hussain
11th March 2005, 18:05
Inzi has taken the responsibility of captaincy graciously and has led his team frm the front ever since he has been made the captain
Fessal
11th March 2005, 18:06
If people think Inzy shouldnt be captain then who should?? A player who is a automatic regualar in the team should only be considered for the captaincy. We only have Inzy who fits that requirment and maybe yoyo and akmal. But yoyo would not be a better cpatain and akmal cant be considered.
Oxy
11th March 2005, 18:49
Some fine points made in defence of Inzi.
Can someone name 1 player that is guaranteed to be starting a test match for Pakistan in 6 months time?
Apart from Inzi and YoYo...you are struggling to find one!
The Pakistani captaincy has always been a poisoned chalace. With the sudden loss of the 2 Ws in 2003; Saqlains sudden loss of form/injury; Saeed Anwar's retirement, he has done FANTASTIC job as skipper.
Not for one minute do i think Inzi is a tactical genius; a born leader; a great motivator of men...BUT he is the heart of our team; the spine of our batting; the last remaining CORNERED TIGER from 1992.
The rest of the team are dont deserve to be on the same pitch as Inzi.
Yet he leads with a dignity and grace that lesser mortals can only aspire to.
When Inzi is gone...his detractors will weep teras...the tears of fans that sit only above Bangladesh and Zimbabwe in the ICC top 10 rankings.
waquas_uk
11th March 2005, 19:19
im sick of this crap for inzis head
what has he done wrong he tried his best with bat and in the field going up to his bowlers everything he was given out twice on a 50/50 situation. tendulkar should have been out earlier. our fielders couldnt hold catches. rana who is a swing bowler was trying to bowl faster. our top 3 in 2 innings never done anything and u blame inzi
what the hell is rong with u guys
Jahangir Khan
11th March 2005, 19:19
Inzi has been one of our best batsmen in this match and his field settings have also been attacking. You can't blame Inzi for fielders dropping catches or bowlers bowling badly. What I would say is that he tends to use a bowler until they are totally tired before changing them. On day three he made sami bowl 10 overs on the trot, In his next spell his pace had dropped as he was tired.
I know it is difficult with only four bowlers but he should use them in shorter bursts, say 6 or 7 overs with the exception of Kaneria.
Shayan
11th March 2005, 19:30
There are 11 players on the pitch, not just Inzy. We can't expect miracles from him.
Karchie19
11th March 2005, 19:40
stupid thinking bowlers - sorry stupid bowlers who don't think - how many no balls and short balls did they bowl on the first day ?
they can all bowl intelligently - but they go for the stupid balls instead.
GamBiTT
11th March 2005, 20:11
Removing Inzi would be a pretty stupid action by PCB. He takes pride in leading the team, has performed excellently with the bat, led from the front (unfortunate absenses were due to injuries), commands respect of all the youngsters, is beginning to show signs of intelligent captaincy. Captains are not born but are groomed. All the time that has been vested in Inzi will be completely lost, as any new guy is probably going to make twice as many mistakes while learning at the job! We should infact continue with Inzi for quite a long period.
IMHO Younis Khan was never the right choice for the vice captain to be groomed as a future captain! Yes, he may have fighting qualities, and a very encouraging personality, but has always been quite behind many of the others as far as talent is concerned. I really feel bad for the guy as the pressure of vice captaincy REALLY got to him in this test match. I don't even remember how many catches (straight forward and half chances) he dropped. Plus the less said about his batting in the second innings, the better (i mean he made balaji look like Imran Khan; that is just sad for anyone who remembers Imran's class). Pressure got to him in a real bad way and I believe the key reason behind the pressure was the very fact that I don't think he himself believes that he deserves a chance of captaining Pakistan.
Pakistan needs to groom a future captain, but that choice should come naturally when they can rely on two or three youngsters to stick around. They can then pick the more natural leader amongst them and then groom him. Butt, Hameed, Taufeeq, Malik have all not shown us yet that they will certainly be Pakistan's cricket future. Either one or more of them will raise their hand and stick around or will certainly be replaced. Until then, we were better off to stick with Youhana, who atleast handled the pressure. We should have been able to live with his limitations in decision-making capabilities for now because he essentially was a replacement WHEN Inzi was injured!!
So, why was Younis Khan chosen in the first place! Just because Imran Khan mentioned talking to some reporter that Younis Khan seems to have really good leadrship qualities. Imran is seriously disconnected from Pakistan cricket, and he really should not make statements as such, especially when he know how the people of Pakistan value his opinion. It was incredibly IRRESPONSIBLE of him to shoot off such comments. Pakistani people and especially the PCB management should be smart enough to assess other people suggestions and comments; however, the way it goes is 'JITNA BADA NAAM - UTNI SAHEEH BAAT'.
nedian21
11th March 2005, 20:21
just pasting my previous thread on inzi
The early afternoon had been all about Inzamam. To say that he batted beautifully for his 86 would be an understatement. He eased his bulk into some gorgeous drives, and timed the ball with a sweetness that lesser lights couldn't even fathom. A back-foot punch through cover off Zaheer Khan screamed magnificence, as did the almost casual step-out-and-loft that sent a Kumble delivery soaring over the fence at long-on courtesy Dileep Premachandran cricinfo
I wud say he deserved his ton and even more than that. it was all class and the authority. maintaining a run rate of over 4 without even playing a single rash shot. and dont forgot he came at 10/3 with Pakistan facing an inning defeat. add that to the pressure he is facing all the time abt his captaincy and other issues. tell me wht more Inzi can do. i dont see anything wrong in his captaincy. I wont remove him from captaincy even if Pakistan are white washed. the reason is simple we dont have any quality players now to beat India in test matches that too at their home. who will be next captain that $$hitty ****** baaz who dont even know when to leave a ball and take simple catches. I bet even if Steve Waugh is the captain of this pakistani side there wud be no difference. see our bowling resources rana, sami razzaq lolz. no one is test material. see our top 3. Salman n taufiq have talent but lack consistency and also technical flaws . Salman forgot to even drop his wrists while ducking . it is so basic. and wht abt our great captain material YK . well anyway i think we shd give Inzi his credit of captaining this side and still coming up with such amazing batting performance.
nice 2 c lots of guys here really supporting Inzi. every one knows he is class act in batting but he is also a true patriot and great human being.
Oxy
11th March 2005, 20:33
nedian21 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:14 pm
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Sorry guys for starting a new thread on almost same discussion but i couldnt resist. just wna praise Inzi and his share class. today he showed why Imran has always hailed him as best together with Sachin and Lara.
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The early afternoon had been all about Inzamam. To say that he batted beautifully for his 86 would be an understatement. He eased his bulk into some gorgeous drives, and timed the ball with a sweetness that lesser lights couldn't even fathom. A back-foot punch through cover off Zaheer Khan screamed magnificence, as did the almost casual step-out-and-loft that sent a Kumble delivery soaring over the fence at long-on courtesy Dileep Premachandran cricinfo
I wud say he deserved his ton and even more than that. it was all class and the authority. maintaining a run rate of over 4 without even playing a single rash shot. and dont forgot he came at 10/3 with Pakistan facing an inning defeat. add that to the pressure he is facing all the time abt his captaincy and other issues. tell me wht more Inzi can do. i dont see anything wrong in his captaincy. I wont remove him from captaincy even if Pakistan are white washed. the reason is simple we dont have any quality players now to beat India in test matches that too at their home. who will be next captain that $$hitty ****** baaz who dont even know when to leave a ball and take simple catches. I bet even if Steve Waugh is the captain of this pakistani side there wud be no difference. see our bowling resources rana, sami razzaq lolz. no one is test material. see our top 3. Salman n taufiq have talent but lack consistency and also technical flaws . Salman forgot to even drop his wrists while ducking . it is so basic. and wht abt our great captain material YK . well anyway i think we shd give Inzi his credit of captaining this side and still coming up with such amazing batting performance.
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jango Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:50 pm
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100% agree on that.Inzi today showed that he is totally world class.The second four of balaji ,the squre drive will be etched in my memory for ever.When will we find a replacement for him?probably never,class like his comes once in a lifetime.
appeal till you squeal Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:11 pm
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youve made my day nedian21! I was feeling like crap since last night but feel much better after reading your post!
what a great man Inzi is! how can ANYONE criticize him??? the man lives for Pakistan cricket, and what's more, never asks for anything in return. You'll never hear him complain about the top order failling, or the middle order failling, or the fielding being bad or the bowlers being terrible. he comes out and shoulders whatever load you can muster up for him. and doesnt utter a single word. how can people not see that!
this, may I add, is in complete contrast to a certain individual we like to call Mr. K. who wished he was bowling with Mcgrath and Gillespie instead of Wasim and Waqar. what a contrast of personalities. and some people want this guy to be captain? rubbish!
Naz Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:20 pm
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Brave man who doesn't deserve all the critisim he might get at the end. He really deserves to win something special like a series win against england in October. I hate seeing his team lose all the time and him having to take all the blame.
nedian21 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:14 pm
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what a great man Inzi is! how can ANYONE criticize him??? the man lives for Pakistan cricket, and what's more, never asks for anything in return. You'll never hear him complain about the top order failling, or the middle order failling, or the fielding being bad or the bowlers being terrible. he comes out and shoulders whatever load you can muster up for him. and doesnt utter a single word. how can people not see that!
exactly appeal . i have seen a lot of Ppers here who are criticizing Inzi. although it is not his fault. he is truly a living legend. a good captain is always not who shouts when there is a misfielding or catch drop. he has immense patience. if i wud be captaining pakistan i wud have slapped Taufiq, Salman and Younis for throwing their wickets. there were BIG technical flaws in their wickets.
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Flirta-P Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:30 pm
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very gud post! Dnt blame inzy
waquas_uk
11th March 2005, 21:42
Gambit are u a Pakistan or Indian
GamBiTT
11th March 2005, 21:49
waquas : ofcourse I am a pakistani |-G
why do you reckon?
Amjid Javed
11th March 2005, 21:51
waqus, ur thinking off the ICF poster gambit
this guy has his name spelt gambitt - pakistani fan
waquas_uk
11th March 2005, 22:01
i thought u from icf
Oxy
12th March 2005, 09:56
bump!
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