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Rob H
30th March 2006, 23:13
BBC - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4860138.stm

Flintoff aiming for milestone win
One-day international, Faridabad: India v England - Match starts 0430 BST Friday

Andrew Flintoff is hoping to mark his 100th one-day international by leading England to victory over India.

But they go into Friday's game 1-0 down after throwing away the chance of winning the series opener in Delhi with a series of rash strokes.

And the team will be in unfamiliar surroundings after deciding not to have a practice session in Faridabad.

England chose to stay in Delhi rather than face the prospect of a lengthy round trip of five to six hours by bus.

"We gave it a lot of thought - what were the strengths and weaknesses of going down to practice just for two hours?

"The nets are outside the ground so you're not getting a feel of the wicket like some of the grounds where you practice at the side of the wicket.

"We just believe practising here far outweighs the negatives of going all the way out to Faridabad," coach Duncan Fletcher told BBC Sport.

England could give the side beaten in Delhi a chance to redeem themselves, although Matthew Hoggard is eager to play his first one-dayer for more than a year after taking a break following the Test series.

Lancashire paceman Sajid Mahmood is unlikely to be considered as he is still experiencing pain from a finger injury, even though an x-ray has confirmed there is no fracture.

It was the batting, however, which let England down in the first match and they cannot afford a repeat on what is expected to be another slow pitch.

Fletcher dismissed suggestions that Flintoff and Kevin Pietersen were guilty of trying to out-do each other in terms of big-hitting.

"From our point of view, they're two really good batters, they've played some very good innings where they've made sure they'd got used to the pace of the wicket and I'm sure they'll do it again.

"Sometimes you make mistakes and you've just got to make sure you don't keep repeating them," said Fletcher.

Flintoff will be only the 11th England player to make 100 one-day appearances, but it is his excellent response to taking over the captaincy mid-tour, which has really impressed Fletcher.

"He's shown a lot of enthusiam, a lot of imagination. There's a lot of pressure on him but he seems to be handling that pressure at the moment, which is a really good sign," Fletcher commented.

There is a ray of hope for England in the fact that India have only won once in five previous games at the Nahar Singh Stadium, failing to defend a score of 274-6 against Zimbabwe in their last appearance there four years ago.

The home side will make a late decision on the fitness of all-rounder Irfan Pathan, who is suffering from flu.

"We have rested him as a precaution. Hopefully, he will be fit to play," said captain Rahul Dravid.

If Pathan is ruled out, paceman Munaf Patel could make his one-day debut, or they could turn to Ramesh Powar, an off-spinner and useful batsman.

Opener Virender Sehwag will definitely play even though he is still receiving treatment for a back problem.

India (from): RS Dravid (captain), V Sehwag, G Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh, M Kaif, SK Raina, MS Dhoni, IK Pathan, YV Rao, MM Patel, S Sreesanth, Harbhajan Singh, RR Powar, RP Singh.

England (from): A Flintoff (captain), K Ali, JM Anderson, GJ Batty, IR Bell, ID Blackwell, PD Collingwood, MJ Hoggard, GO Jones, SI Mahmood, KP Pietersen, LE Plunkett, MJ Prior, OA Shah, VS Solanki, AJ Strauss.

Umpires: A Jayaprakash (India) & Asad Rauf (Pakistan)

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I really hope England bat first. I feel with our batting line up right now it's better getting the runs on the board than the pressure of having to chase them down. Will be a good game though.

James
30th March 2006, 23:16
I think we wasted a opportunity to put India under some early pressure in the series, we honestly should have won on Tuesday and thanks to the sweep shot, we blew it. How many times does the sweep have to ruin games for us before Fletcher doesnt encourage it as much?

We will probs lose the series now unless we have some luck with the tosses, maybe we will win our token 1 or 2 games while the other team looks a lot more convincing, thats how it always happens in one dayers with England.

aggarwald
30th March 2006, 23:25
I think we wasted a opportunity to put India under some early pressure in the series, we honestly should have won on Tuesday and thanks to the sweep shot, we blew it. How many times does the sweep have to ruin games for us before Fletcher doesnt encourage it as much?

We will probs lose the series now unless we have some luck with the tosses, maybe we will win our token 1 or 2 games while the other team looks a lot more convincing, thats how it always happens in one dayers with England.

Didn't England win Natwest trophy against the Aussies last year? I thought they played really well.

Amir
30th March 2006, 23:28
It was a draw but that too was a game they should have won dismissing Australia under 200.

James
30th March 2006, 23:29
England played well in the buildup to Natwest Series final, but once they got there they were lucky to escape with a tie after a top order collapse, and they shared the trophy with the Aussies.

Then Australia won Natwest Challenge 2-1, pretty convincingly as well.

Our home ODI performances can be good, but away from home we are usually useless unless we play minnows.

cornelius
30th March 2006, 23:56
whats the heads up on sajjid mehmood? is he any good?whats his county image so far?

James
31st March 2006, 00:00
he is a good prospect and will probably feature in this one day series sooner or later. Obviously he is being hyped up as next Ambrose because he is a young and tall English bowler :)) I doubt he will be that, but Id like to see him play

Easa
31st March 2006, 00:45
Have a feeling Engerland will win this one convincingly.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 04:08
They should be able to....the problem with England is wrong shot selection which can be rectified...this being not a high scoring pitch should allow them the luxury to do that.
The problem with India is much deeper, wrong shot selection with NO EFFORT at even trying to correct it.
Bhajji having done his job for the next 6 series will probably go back to his normal form (although I really hope not)

Who do you think will score in this match. From cricinfo's preview it seems like nearly everyone will Bowl well :)

samisback
31st March 2006, 08:49
england batting, after freedie won the toss

same team for england

india have dropped RIP singh and got powar in!

samisback
31st March 2006, 08:59
freedie in his 100th one dayers, :O:O (i thought by now should be close to 200th) anyways


priorr and strauss come out to bat

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 09:29
What to say about this match other than "Nothing to Report Yet"

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 09:43
England Getting better Now

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:01
heres one for the srinath commentery loves

nasser hussain : good morning sri

srinath : good morning NAZ:))):))


here comes powar, (inzi looks so much fitter if you compare him with powar



54 for 0 england begining to open up a bit here

12 overs

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:03
droppedddddddddddd the easiest caught n bowl chance ever in the history of the game...powar makes history!!!!!!

srinath : simplest of the catches maybe the glasses


yeah right!!!

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:07
there u go now....india lose when their fielding drops....like in Mumbai

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:13
66/0 at 15

what are the chances that england reach 300 safely. This pitch 270 in 2nd innings is supposedly safe.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:13
Prior GONNNEEEE...Bhajji at it again

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:14
make that 66 for 1

bhajii strikes good decison by asad rooof (srinath)

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:14
here comes owais shah :11:

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:15
if I were flintoff I would get in KP now

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 10:15
there u go now....india lose when their fielding drops....like in Mumbai

We would have lost even if we held those catches in Mumbai.

Coming to this match, dropping one catch here and there is a part of the game. Dravid was dropped on 0 in the first ODI. So, relax.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:16
The pitch is going to get worse for hitting later ....so get in your hitters early and with plenty time to get used to it

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 10:17
66/0 at 15

what are the chances that england reach 300 safely. This pitch 270 in 2nd innings is supposedly safe.

This pitch is so slow that I think 225 is a winnable total on this one. Very similar (or worse) compared to Kotla pitch. e.g. Pathan's first ball of the innings reached Dhoni on 3rd bounce. :O

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:18
if I were flintoff I would get in KP now
owais shah out.................................powar gets him, didnt look out though lets see the replay
71 for 2

this guy looks like an absolute joka no offence to anyone this ram powar....funny glasses, funny man

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:19
Oh boy......Power into action now...so KP is gonna be in 71/2

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:19
that was out ball took the edge onto the pad and dhoni takes a good diving catch ...shah goes for 0 :(

kp comes in :11:

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:20
Why does he put on that Sunglasses...apart from the obvious reason....

Yeah...definitely looks funny :) I hear he is a hitter though...yet to see him bat

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:22
ok owais shah was not out:12: umpire made a complete meal out of it , my first first impressions were spot on, shame shame umpire............

76 for 2

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:22
Bhajji getting huge turn....more than he normally gets...good thing England have only Blackwell

UJ
31st March 2006, 10:23
Damn, I was hoping Shah would perform well today

Oh wellz, another day maybe..

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:24
Why does he put on that Sunglasses...apart from the obvious reason....

Yeah...definitely looks funny :) I hear he is a hitter though...yet to see him bat
seriously needs to loose a lot of weight , even to get his size down to inzi,z......

hes more closer to ranatunga, and i hear hes a good fielder:O:O

dhoni misses a stumping chance:))):))

4 byzzz
80 for 2

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:24
Who is the umpire....Rauf?? I shd think a bat pad shd be easier to spot with an offie

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:25
Who is the umpire....Rauf?? I shd think a bat pad shd be easier to spot with an offie
no , an indian umpire dont know his name,

the asad roooof guy is an excellent umpire, im impressed......

samisback
31st March 2006, 10:26
this is a spinners paradise this track...wonder why cant they make such tracks when bhajji isnt playing :16:


i think they tailor make it for him...honest :30:


83 for 2

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:28
Honestly....even Powar's getting sharp turn....infact Strauss has been doing pretty good to cope so far....as he is a so-so spin player

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:29
Where are Rob and Whippy ?

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:40
Need to get a bowling change now

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:47
Again a period of quite, wonder when KP is gonna let loose

hasan316
31st March 2006, 10:48
Englang 101 for 2 (23.4 overs)

Strauss 47of 67

Pietersen 13 of 23

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 10:51
Honestly....even Powar's getting sharp turn....infact Strauss has been doing pretty good to cope so far....as he is a so-so spin player

Honestly, do you think even Indians can play such turning balls? Just because we Indians have to face only one spinner (Blackwell) who is not that great shakes, we are good players of spin? Even then in the last match, Blackwell had figures of 2-23 in the last match and Bhajji had given those many runs in first 5 overs before the English gifted the wickets to him on a "jhaadu" (sweep). On the contrary, whenever Indians had to play even decent spin bowling on turning tracks, most of the times even our batsmen have looked clueless and most of the times even we have lost. Just check the record of Indians against Pak and SL on turning tracks in ODIs.

I think Strauss is a better player of spin than most Indians.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:53
50 for Strauss

110/2 in 26

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:55
Honestly, do you think even Indians can play such turning balls? Just because we Indians have to face only one spinner (Blackwell) who is not that great shakes, we are good players of spin? Even then in the last match, Blackwell had figures of 2-23 in the last match and Bhajji had given those many runs in first 5 overs before the English gifted the wickets to him on a "jhaadu" (sweep). On the contrary, whenever Indians had to play even decent spin bowling on turning tracks, most of the times even our batsmen have looked clueless and most of the times even we have lost. Just check the record of Indians against Pak and SL on turning tracks in ODIs.

I think Strauss is a better player of spin than most Indians.
Never said Indians to be good players of spin...maybe at one time. Dunno about what you said though, he still seems a so-so player for spin.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 10:57
Yuvi on now...wonder if he will be as effective as last time

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:01
sehwag,s getting more turn then both bhajji and powar put together :)):)))


116 for 2

ps: good morning aggarwald!

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:04
Pitch does look difficult to score on. 250 could well be a safe score...with the Indians in the form they are right now.

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:07
poor running nearly a run out...dhoni couldnt collect the throw cleanly

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:08
pieterson has his pants down (nasir hussain) and he does:))):)) dont know why :|

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:09
Another miss by Dhoni...having another off day today

hasan316
31st March 2006, 11:09
whats wrong with Pietersen. Why is he playing too slow. NO 6 or 4 from him so far???

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 11:10
Fricken Dhoni, he misses, stumpings, drops catches and now a run-out chance GONE.. MY god KP has got like a 1000 lives this innings and if ENg doesnt win from here it is a great shame.....I cant believe people were comparing Kamran with Dhoni, what a joke....

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:13
Doesnt need to...he is scoring easily off Sehwag...someone needs to get Raina on...Sehwag is useless today.

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:14
Fricken Dhoni, he misses, stumpings, drops catches and now a run-out chance GONE.. MY god KP has got like a 1000 lives this innings and if ENg doesnt win from here it is a great shame.....I cant believe people were comparing Kamran with Dhoni, what a joke....
post of the week that :))):))

133 for 2

time since last boundery 80 ballss

30.3 overs

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:18
bolwd!!!!!!!!!!

cleaned up strauss..dances down the track and miss powar gets his man


well played though ...made 61

135 for3

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:19
And Strauss gone....Powar;s day out .....

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:19
here comes feedie flintoff in his 100th one dayer:11:

hell even bhajji has played more then freedie:O

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:19
Time for some fireworks.....anyone hoping for another version of Freddie Vs KP show.....

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:20
Imagine KP scoring 31 already with NO BOUNDARIES at all.....lagta hai last match mein kisine sahi se kaan kheencha hai :)

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:24
kp might be out.we are going upstairssssss and he is innnnnnnnnnnnn just

lets see whatthe umpire decison is this is a hard one

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:24
its touch and go.....................could go either way peeps

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:25
given not out..........

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:28
If either of these two stay beyond the next 5 overs, Dravid better set his fielders on the boundary and ask his slower bowlers to bowl as flat as possible.

With 4 spinners India are really rushing through their overs.

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:30
up dates?

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:30
141/3

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:31
so i would say 270+???

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:33
outtttttttttttt
freeide stumped

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:33
ok 250 now

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:34
dances down the track to powar and miss, dhoni does the rest (for a change gets the job done dhoni
but freedie :(

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:34
Holy Crap!! Powar....finally Dhoni gets one right...Flintoff goes

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:35
Match totally not going as expected...except that the scoring is slow.

greentie
31st March 2006, 11:36
ok 250 now

I doubt 250. Probably 225, but I would not be surprised if England collapse AGAIN. I think India has this one in the bag, havent they won like 15+ straight when chasing? Whats with the english not being able to play the spin?

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:38
10 overs 3 for 34 for powar not bad

145 for 4

36 overs

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:39
we'll see

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:39
Finally boundary no 1

greentie
31st March 2006, 11:39
Finally, a 4

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:40
I have faith in KP

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:41
And gets it with the Sweep....England still persisting

greentie
31st March 2006, 11:41
okkk....what was so brilliant about bhajis fielding there?!?! stupid play by play

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:42
okkk....what was so brilliant about bhajis fielding there?!?! stupid play by play


Come on it is the Indians.............If any one even sneez it is hyped for nothing.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:42
Surprises...didnt know Gambhir bowled!!!!

greentie
31st March 2006, 11:43
GG bowling....lol

greentie
31st March 2006, 11:44
going to be an expensive over

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:44
Cool...will probably never bowl again:)

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:44
not really

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:45
1nb and one 1wd

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:46
where is sneaky sneaky

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:47
13 runs from the over

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:48
KP Pietersen well done half century for him

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:49
England 164/4 (37.6 ov)

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:49
Seven bowlers used already......Raina can also bowl(Dunno why he isnt on already) and I have seen Kaif bowl too

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:50
Seven bowlers used already......Raina can also bowl(Dunno why he isnt on already) and I have seen Kaif bowl too


How about dhoni.....he is medium pacer also?? He bowled against pak

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:56
666666666666666 Kp

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:56
KP the man

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:57
going going gone out of the ground
6666666666666666666666666666666666 out of the park

174

samisback
31st March 2006, 11:57
outtttttt
run out by dhoni good throw
colly goes

174 for 5

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 11:57
250 still possbility?

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 11:59
I should think so....plenty of overs and even though they might not have shown it yet, Jones and Blackwell are good attacking players

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 12:00
Collingwood run out.. Strauss got 2 lives, so did KP I cant believe this, the score should have been like 120/7 by now...

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:00
as long as Kp batting i am watching

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:03
jones wating balls

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:05
Its getting close to Hit Out time now for KP

Rob H
31st March 2006, 12:05
Hoepfully we can get to 240. You never know if Pietersen stays in til the end of the 50. That 6 off Bhajji was a mighty blow.

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:06
444444444444444444444444444

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:07
66666666666666666
massive half hit for 6

kp :11:

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:07
666666666666666666666666666666666666666

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:07
outtttttt
next ball :(

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:07
What did I say......:)

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:07
well made 71 he made.

193 for 6

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:07
Hit and Out Time.....

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:08
about time he put up the show

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 12:09
Gone after getting a 100 lives, too bad didint get a 100..

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:09
As some one would say...an Innings full of Character...though...I appreciate it very very much, If it were a normal KP innings India would have been outta the game on this sorta pitch by now

Waheed_one
31st March 2006, 12:09
i am going to sleep 225 is good enough now later guys

Rob H
31st March 2006, 12:09
The Gojo and Blackwell show now (i hope). Good knock Kenny though.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:10
Anything less than 240 now shd be dissappointing for England...especially with 3 allrounders left

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 12:12
If England score even 210+, this match is a goner for India. Its a shame that any tom dick and harry spinner is difficult to score off. Two matches in a row, these ridiculous pitches have made bowlers of Sehwag, Yuvi and even Gambhir. Any spinner going above 3 an over is a crime (committed by Bhajji today and to some extent by Powar) on this pitch.

For England, bowling of Blackwell and Collingwood will be the key. Whippy, does England have any stop-gap slow bowlers (Strauss?)?

Rob H
31st March 2006, 12:16
bloody hell lads, take your time why don't you.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:18
I didnt see Gambhir bowling well(13 in 1 and on a helpful pitch)....Sehwag was expensive, was going over 5 rpo and Yuvi generally bowls the same way around 4 rpo.

I dont see a lot of difference here. Yes, the pitch was helpful as most in India.

As Indian batting has gone lately anybody will be difficult to score off, but one still hopes :)

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:19
4444444444

g .jones well swept


could have been stopped

205

Officer Barbrady
31st March 2006, 12:23
Pietersen continues his amazing run. Slowly the doubters will drift away.

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:27
bowleddddddddddddd
blackwell goess
slower ball by badrinaat gets his man

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:27
214 for 7

47.3 overs

Waseem
31st March 2006, 12:32
Jones and Blackwell should just hit out, Plunkett and Kabir can bat so they should just smash the ball around.

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:34
liam goessssssssss

221 for 8

last over coming up

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 12:34
I didnt see Gambhir bowling well(13 in 1 and on a helpful pitch)....Sehwag was expensive, was going over 5 rpo and Yuvi generally bowls the same way around 4 rpo.

I dont see a lot of difference here. Yes, the pitch was helpful as most in India.

As Indian batting has gone lately anybody will be difficult to score off, but one still hopes :)

The point is not Gambhir and Sehwag doing poorly or well. The point is that pitch is such a rank turner that captain even had the confidence to give bowling to non-bowlers.

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:36
g jones goessssssss

223 for 9
4 balls remain

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:38
they should send kabir ali before blackwell next time...more then usefull lower order batter!!!!!!

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:39
all out

for 225 england

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:39
make that 226

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 12:40
they should send kabir ali before blackwell next time...more then usefull lower order batter!!!!!!
Is Kabir Ali of Pakistani origin?

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:43
Looking at the pitch, this does seem to give bowlers to bowl something at. I think I read somewhere that 226 is the avg score out on this ground...but dunno, probably is a tukka

Waseem
31st March 2006, 12:44
Poor finish by England, they should have scored at least 250 but they lost it al in the last 5 overs.

Waseem
31st March 2006, 12:48
Is Kabir Ali of Pakistani origin?

Yes he is.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:49
Well unless Sehwag or Dhoni really have a what is called...."unka din", which may be a tad unlikely on this pitch, this is a good enough score. At least that seems to be everybody's opinion out there.

samisback
31st March 2006, 12:50
Is Kabir Ali of Pakistani origin?
yes he is indeed, if your asking how many english players are in the current england side.....then i can assure you not many ;-)

Billy
31st March 2006, 12:50
There's no way England can compete with India's slower bowlers.. look at Pathan and Harbhajan's figures.

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:53
Yuvi seems to be liking KP very much...bagged him 2 in 2 now...what say whippy ? Bunny in making :)

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 12:54
oops...forgot...WHERE is WHIPPY?

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 13:24
There's no way England can compete with India's slower bowlers.. look at Pathan and Harbhajan's figures.

I don't know which match you are watching. 43 runs off 10 overs on such a slow and rank turner is a crime and that's what Bhajji did today. I will be surprised if Blackwell gives more than 25 runs off his quota.

invincible
31st March 2006, 13:53
I don't know which match you are watching. 43 runs off 10 overs on such a slow and rank turner is a crime and that's what Bhajji did today. I will be surprised if Blackwell gives more than 25 runs off his quota.
then, get ready to be surprised ... i shall for sure remember this post ... and about your earlier post, you are one of the very very few people whom I have met on this board saying Indians cannot play spin well

Asim2Good
31st March 2006, 13:56
latest score plz

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 13:58
then, get ready to be surprised ... i shall for sure remember this post ... and about your earlier post, you are one of the very very few people whom I have met on this board saying Indians cannot play spin well

Prove that Indians play spin well. I can prove otherwise though.

samisback
31st March 2006, 13:58
44 for 0 india

7.4 overs

invincible
31st March 2006, 14:02
Prove that Indians play spin well. I can prove otherwise though.
shane warne - regarded as world's best spinner ...

averages 47 as opposed to carreer's avg. of 25

Murali averages 32 as opposed to carreer's avg. of 22

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 14:16
shane warne - regarded as world's best spinner ...

averages 47 as opposed to carreer's avg. of 25

Murali averages 32 as opposed to carreer's avg. of 22

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

In order to prove your point, use the same yardstick that is applied for others, which is
a) playing when the ball is really turning
b) playing last in the 4th innings against some decent spin bowling.

Statistics that you have thrown also include those days when they were struggling to make their mark and were not classified as great yet.
Most of the runs that were scored off Murli were when he was not such a great bowler ie before 2000. If you want to throw statistics, do you know Murli was almost unplayable in the last India-SL test series? Go and check that series statistics. Our top order just perished against him and it was tailenders with their wham-bham-thankyou-mam type of batting that saved India's a****. And regarding Warne, have we played him on a last day pitch ever after 1998?

I can give you many more examples that proves Indians have never played spin well when the ball was really turning on a 4th day and 5th day pitch. Ah, just remembered one example off the top of my head. Remember figures of Michael Clarke, that greatest spin bowler of all time, at Mumbai last year? 6-9! Sure, we are great players of spin!

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:28
bowleddddddddddd

sehwag goessssssssssssssssss

61 for 1

blackwell does the trick ma mate aggarwald your spot on, a 3rd class spinner gets sehwag ;-)

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:28
26 runs of 45 balls :))):)))

entralinks
31st March 2006, 14:34
Blackmell gets Sehwag.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 14:40
bowleddddddddddd

sehwag goessssssssssssssssss

61 for 1

blackwell does the trick ma mate aggarwald your spot on, a 3rd class spinner gets sehwag ;-)

Problem with Indians is that the ICHM has brainwashed Indians into believing a few myths, where "Indians are good players of spin" is one of them. We have classified other nations as poor players of spin because they have perished against our spinners on turning pitches on the 4th and 5th days. But the ICHM has never applied the same yardstick for evaluating whether Indians are good players of spin. How have Indians themselves fared playing a dual pronged spin attack on a 4th and 5th day pitch? I am sorry to say that we Indians have failed this test most of the times but ICHM doesn't want to be bothered with facts :P

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:44
Problem with Indians is that the ICHM has brainwashed Indians into believing a few myths, where "Indians are good players of spin" is one of them. We have classified other nations as poor players of spin because they have perished against our spinners on turning pitches on the 4th and 5th days. But the ICHM has never applied the same yardstick for evaluating whether Indians are good players of spin. How have Indians themselves fared playing a dual pronged spin attack on a 4th and 5th day pitch? I am sorry to say that we Indians have failed this test most of the times but ICHM doesn't want to be bothered with facts :P
ICHM? indian clowne head masters :O


69 for 1

17 overs

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 14:46
ICHM? indian clowne head masters :O


69 for 1

17 overs

ICHM - Indian Cricket Hype Machine

The one you gave is also apt. :))

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:46
gambhir goes for 29


caught n bowled anderson :11:

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:52
ICHM - Indian Cricket Hype Machine

The one you gave is also apt. :))
btw, whats the story behind your love affair with the indian team, and BCCI? if you dont mind telling that is.......

70 for 2

CR: 3.89

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 14:58
Aggarwald

Who in your Op is the best players of spin? Please dont say Pak cause we all seen how Shane Warne terrorizes u lot...

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:58
outtttttttttttttttttttttttttt

samisback
31st March 2006, 14:59
this is some serious drama peeps


lets see whats the verdict.........................................on e of the most bizzare dismissals you will ever see if hes out

samisback
31st March 2006, 15:00
what happend is, ball goes down the leg side , jones dives and gets the ball and throws it, ball hits the stumps, bails are knoced down, dravid thinks of the single and starts to run , colly comes on picks the bails up quickly puts them on the wickets and takes the wickets down with the ball in his hand..........


and yes dravid has been given out :11:

jusarrived
31st March 2006, 15:01
this is some serious drama peeps


lets see whats the verdict.........................................on e of the most bizzare dismissals you will ever see if hes out

wats the verdict?

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 15:06
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss Selfish Dravid, The Most Selfish Indian Cricketer Is Out For A Well Made 5(22)..... At least now we have a chance of winning :19:

Rickz
31st March 2006, 15:07
4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from Yuvraj, and another!

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 15:09
btw, whats the story behind your love affair with the indian team, and BCCI? if you dont mind telling that is.......

70 for 2

CR: 3.89

There is no story. I am a "seedha-saadha aam hindustani/bhaaratiya " who just happens to be a serious student of cricket (as a hobby) and understands its fine nuances. It irks me when I see such low quality cricket journalism on Indian media that has been instrumental in classifying Indian team as "great" when in reality they are a mediocre team. Being a person of scientific temper how can I accept such balderdash when I know through my own analysis that its not true? As far as BCCI goes, all they are interested in is making money by packing up calendar with more and more matches. IMHO, there should be 2-3 months of net practice every year so that players can correct technical deficiencies, try out more new shots or bowling variations etc....But BCCI doesn't want to be bothered. One day they will realize that by this rank greed of theirs, they have killed the goose that lay them golden eggs.

samisback
31st March 2006, 15:09
outtttttttttt
kaifffff goessssssssss

80 for 4 now ;-)

samisback
31st March 2006, 15:09
lets see what dhoni is made up of now ehh


no its raina,s turn first !

Rickz
31st March 2006, 15:09
Dam, Kaif out.

jusarrived
31st March 2006, 15:10
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss Selfish Dravid, The Most Selfish Indian Cricketer Is Out For A Well Made 5(22)..... At least now we have a chance of winning :19:

i wud say we have a chance of winning cos the most selfish indian player is not playing ! ;-)

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 15:19
Aggarwald

Who in your Op is the best players of spin? Please dont say Pak cause we all seen how Shane Warne terrorizes u lot...

First of all, I am an Indian and not a Pakistani.

Second, I think following are the best players of spin:
No.1 - Jack Kallis
No.2 - Mark Boucher
No.3 - Inzy

Potential great players of spin in the future:
- Shoaib Malik (I doubt if anyone else in the world would have been able to save the match yesterday playing Murli on a last day pitch)
- Bravo (WI alrounder who handled Shane Warne's and STuart McGills square turners on a 4th day pitch with aplomb and hit a glorious century).

jusarrived
31st March 2006, 15:26
First of all, I am an Indian and not a Pakistani.

Second, I think following are the best players of spin:
No.1 - Jack Kallis
No.2 - Mark Boucher
No.3 - Inzy

Potential great players of spin in the future:
- Shoaib Malik (I doubt if anyone else in the world would have been able to save the match yesterday playing Murli on a last day pitch)
- Bravo (WI alrounder who handled Shane Warne's and STuart McGills square turners on a 4th day pitch with aplomb and hit a glorious century).


:))) :))) :))) :)))

samisback
31st March 2006, 15:26
yuvi goessssssssss
bowled again blackwell (one mor efor aggarwald ;-)


lets get dhoni out and see what hes made off :11:

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 15:26
Aggarwald

I agree with ur No.1. Inzy has not looked all that great against Kumble & Warne although he does much better vs Murali. Shoib Malik is too early to tell, not on one hundred lets see what happens next test, I mean I have seen Dhoni totally dominate Murali in the last series test and one dayers but I still dont rate him up there as one of the best players of spin.. One man which you have left out is Brian Charles Lara, I mean you picking Boucher ahead of him just kinda tells me you dont know much about what you are talking about...

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 15:27
Yuvi out to Blackwell.

invincible, where are you hiding?

samisback
31st March 2006, 15:29
There is no story. I am a "seedha-saadha aam hindustani/bhaaratiya " who just happens to be a serious student of cricket (as a hobby) and understands its fine nuances. It irks me when I see such low quality cricket journalism on Indian media that has been instrumental in classifying Indian team as "great" when in reality they are a mediocre team. Being a person of scientific temper how can I accept such balderdash when I know through my own analysis that its not true? As far as BCCI goes, all they are interested in is making money by packing up calendar with more and more matches. IMHO, there should be 2-3 months of net practice every year so that players can correct technical deficiencies, try out more new shots or bowling variations etc....But BCCI doesn't want to be bothered. One day they will realize that by this rank greed of theirs, they have killed the goose that lay them golden eggs.
thats music to my ears :11:


93 for 5 now!

Billy
31st March 2006, 15:36
Brett Lee just bowled a delivery of 165kmh according to one of the speed guns in the Aus/RSA test.

I think it might be broken.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 15:38
Aggarwald

I agree with ur No.1. Inzy has not looked all that great against Kumble & Warne although he does much better vs Murali. Shoib Malik is too early to tell, not on one hundred lets see what happens next test, I mean I have seen Dhoni totally dominate Murali in the last series test and one dayers but I still dont rate him up there as one of the best players of spin.. One man which you have left out is Brian Charles Lara, I mean you picking Boucher ahead of him just kinda tells me you dont know much about what you are talking about...

Dhoni dominated Murli? Just because he scored one or 2 fifties off 35 balls in a wham-bham style, he's good player of spin? Does he have the talent to play more than 100 balls of good quality spin?No, he doesn't.

Regarding Boucher and Lara, I think Boucher is the most underrated good player of spin. Did any one watch the super series? Boucher and Kallis were the ones who dug out Warne and Mcgill for more than 2-3 hours when other star batsmen even struggled to play proper defence and got out in a few minutes. Also, remember when Rudolph scored a last day century saved the match for SA? Boucher had a huge role to play in that match.

Its not me but you who doesn't know what he is talking about.

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 16:03
Still I cant believe you picked Boucher ahead of Lara on the basis of a few innings compared to Lara's years of quality output, and I for some reason dont think am the only one with this opinion.

Salman
31st March 2006, 16:06
135/5 India req 92 off 95 to win....

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:06
Still I cant believe you picked Boucher ahead of Lara on the basis of a few innings compared to Lara's years of quality output, and I for some reason dont think am the only one with this opinion.
Lara is way past his sell date, just like sachin endulkar, our friend aggarwald doesnt blv in past heroics like some of you, he doesnt live in past time glories....time has moved on, and it has been 5 years now...so i suggest you come join us in 2006!!!

135 for 5....

34 overs


raina looking good!

Jonty
31st March 2006, 16:13
looks like some crooked indian fan LOL

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:17
sexy shot by raina 1 bounce 4..........this lad looks brilliant while batting, perhaps swap him with laxman in tests...........


145 for 5

82 runs of 85 balls

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 16:17
[QUOTE=cavin420]Lara is way past his sell date, just like sachin endulkar, our friend aggarwald doesnt blv in past heroics like some of you, he doesnt live in past time glories....time has moved on, and it has been 5 years now...so i suggest you come join us in 2006!!!

What the hell you talking about? Lara is still performing in test matches and if anyone who puts Boucher ahead of Lara at who the better player is against spin is just plain stupid...

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:22
[QUOTE=cavin420]Lara is way past his sell date, just like sachin endulkar, our friend aggarwald doesnt blv in past heroics like some of you, he doesnt live in past time glories....time has moved on, and it has been 5 years now...so i suggest you come join us in 2006!!!

What the hell you talking about? Lara is still performing in test matches and if anyone who puts Boucher ahead of Lara at who the better player is against spin is just plain stupid...
yes, he is still performing i agree 1 double century in donkey no of matches...

just like his best buddie sachin endulkar 1 double hundred against the best team in the world


yes indeed , lara is the best with sachin obviously :30:


with regards to boucher , im not 100% since i have never seen him do good in the sub-continent..................so no comments on boucher but he looked decent against spin in austrailia......in my personal opinion rahul dravid is a better player against spin, and i would be more then happy to swap him with boucher....!

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:22
150 for 5

76 from 76

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:25
England desperately need some wickets otherwise it will be a cakewalk for Indians.

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:28
Oh you stupid Plunkett, bowling no balls at this stage is a big crime........

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:33
67 from 62 balls.....

get sajid mehmood inplace of liam....he su***........big time..........

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:33
72 runs required off 66 balls now.
A tough contest but i thikn Indians are on top at the moment, at least couple of wickets from England will make it more interesting.

Romali_rotti
31st March 2006, 16:34
What the hell man? Dhoni seems to have an inferiorty complex when playing the *****, he can barely put bat on ball, but bring on his asian counterparts he looks like superman...WEIRDDD

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:35
4444444444444444444444

bullet shottttt by raina :11:

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:36
this lad is something special i tell ya peeps right now mark me words :11:




61 from 58 balls now

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:36
67 from 62 balls.....

get sajid mehmood inplace of liam....he su***........big time..........
You are way ahead bcoz i m relying on crapinfo.......and hey, Plunkett has been England's best bowler today.

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:45
44444444 REVERSE swetp by dhoni


54 runs

52 balls:|

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:49
51 needed from 46 balls now with 5 wickets in hand.

India will win it very easily now, India goes 2-0 up in the series.

England will need to work really hard to come back into this series.

England wll probably lose this series 5-2 or 6-1

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:50
50 to s.raina well played son!! im impressedd

45 balls and 50 runs required now

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:52
waseem both liam and kabir have looked ordinery...................

dhoni starting to open up ..44 to end the over

45 runs of 42 balls now

samisback
31st March 2006, 16:54
666666666666666666666666
in the crowd raina :11:

Waseem
31st March 2006, 16:57
Kabir Ali has always been medicore, he is probably a better batsman than a bowler :P

Saqib
31st March 2006, 17:00
Dhoni will take the game away from England he is a good player.

I think England will fight back just like Pakistan, we lost the first 2 games 2-0 after we came back won the lost 4 :P

I am behind England :)

samisback
31st March 2006, 17:02
raina :11:

3 smashing 444444444444444444444,ss


india game set n match


20 runs of 31 balls......

Waseem
31st March 2006, 17:03
Dhoni will take the game away from England he is a good player.

I think England will fight back just like Pakistan, we lost the first 2 games 2-0 after we came back won the lost 4 :P

I am behind England :)

Only if Trescothick can come back otherwise NO chance.

Waseem
31st March 2006, 17:04
Both Pakistanis will be dropped in the next match and Sajid Mahmood will probably come in.

England lack some quality ODI batsmen.

Waseem
31st March 2006, 17:10
Will Flintoff get a Hattrick in the next over to lead England to victory????:O i can see that happening :P

samisback
31st March 2006, 17:16
Both Pakistanis will be dropped in the next match and Sajid Mahmood will probably come in.

England lack some quality ODI batsmen.
you mean pakistani will make way for another pakistani :11:



7 runs of 16 balls now......the only player england are missing is DARREN GOUGH!!

UJ
31st March 2006, 17:31
Only a miracle can save Eng now

Swaraj!!
31st March 2006, 17:49
Too late.....nice to see Raina...wonder if he will work out to be consistently good or turn out to be another Kaif

aabbasi
31st March 2006, 17:53
India has batting depth while England apart from Flintoff does not have a bowler who can take wickets when required.
Andierson is English version of Sami.
Kabir-Ali is not that good.
Collingwood, the less said about him, the better.
Blackwell, another bowler in Jaysuria mould. Jaysuria would be much better bowler i guess.

Tupac
31st March 2006, 17:56
If England score even 210+, this match is a goner for India. Its a shame that any tom dick and harry spinner is difficult to score off. Two matches in a row, these ridiculous pitches have made bowlers of Sehwag, Yuvi and even Gambhir. Any spinner going above 3 an over is a crime (committed by Bhajji today and to some extent by Powar) on this pitch.

For England, bowling of Blackwell and Collingwood will be the key. Whippy, does England have any stop-gap slow bowlers (Strauss?)?

yup, confirmed it. He's Indian, he's just a naturally negative thinking man. I hope this serves as a lesson to you. I said in the last game this team is developing character, and an ability to fight. An ability to never give up. This is on display yet again, after our 14th successive chase, and out 6th ODI win in a row. We are now #3 in the rankings. I hope you enjoy it.

Oh, and here's a phrase that you might want to relearn if you've forgotten: India Zindabad!

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 18:10
yup, confirmed it. He's Indian, he's just a naturally negative thinking man. I hope this serves as a lesson to you. I said in the last game this team is developing character, and an ability to fight. An ability to never give up. This is on display yet again, after our 14th successive chase, and out 6th ODI win in a row. We are now #3 in the rankings. I hope you enjoy it.

Oh, and here's a phrase that you might want to relearn if you've forgotten: India Zindabad!

This was a very good win by India. Hats off to Suresh Raina for great temperament.
:14:

What I stated above was a realistic assessment and has nothing to do with negative character. Whatever statements I have made before are based on the same standards I have held for all the players irrespective of nationality, and it just so happens that many players in the Indian team don't qualify those standards. I will be the first one to applaud any good performance from any one.

Finally, even though I am a patriotic Indian, I don't wear rose tinted glasses and jingoism is not my forte.

James
31st March 2006, 18:16
I was out for most of last nigth and didnt wake up til late this morning, so here are my thoughts after seeing a bit of the 2nd innings and looking at the scorecard...

no complaints, we just didnt produce a good enough allround performance again. Our fielding is excellent in every game, but either the batting or bowling usually fails. To be a quality ODI side you have to bat, bowl and field well all together, and do it consistently as well, and England have just never been good at doing that in ODis.

Thats the first time in a while our bowling has genuinely let down the batting. Normally when we lose, the batting lets down the bowling. But from what Ive read, the opening bowlers were pretty poor and India were always favourites after starting their reply well. Meanwhile it looked a difficult pitch, India know how to use the pitches to their advantage and Pietersen and Strauss did well to make runs, Pietersen proving that he is effing amazing yet again, didnt he break or equal a record today or something. So the batting was as good as it could have been I spose.

3rd match: Kabir Ali and Shah out, Hoggard and Bell in! Or possibly Mahmood instead of Hoggard. whatever.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 18:23
I was out for most of last nigth and didnt wake up til late this morning, so here are my thoughts after seeing a bit of the 2nd innings and looking at the scorecard...

no complaints, we just didnt produce a good enough allround performance again. Our fielding is excellent in every game, but either the batting or bowling usually fails. To be a quality ODI side you have to bat, bowl and field well all together, and do it consistently as well, and England have just never been good at doing that in ODis.

Thats the first time in a while our bowling has genuinely let down the batting. Normally when we lose, the batting lets down the bowling. But from what Ive read, the opening bowlers were pretty poor and India were always favourites after starting their reply well. Meanwhile it looked a difficult pitch, India know how to use the pitches to their advantage and Pietersen and Strauss did well to make runs, Pietersen proving that he is effing amazing yet again, didnt he break or equal a record today or something. So the batting was as good as it could have been I spose.

3rd match: Kabir Ali and Shah out, Hoggard and Bell in! Or possibly Mahmood instead of Hoggard. whatever.

220 should have been defendable on this pitch. But gotta give it to Raina today for superb innings. The pitch was so slow that England missed one more slow bowler today. For the most part, Blackwell was able to restrict Indians well except for 1 over where he gave 11 runs to Raina.

Considering the kind of pitches Indians are dishing out, England will seriously miss Ashley Giles. England needs 2 spinners bowling in tandem on such pitches.

James
31st March 2006, 18:28
Blackwell actually is a decent one day player for us. Containing spinner that usually takes a wicket or 2, and a good bat. once he gets over the mental block with his batting and can produce one half century or something (he is definitely talented enough to do this), he will contribute with the bat as regularly as the ball.

I also am ashamed to admit we are missing Giles, I dont like him but we needed another spinner today. Kabir was utter crap.

I think Flintoff should have let KP bowl some of his off spin, even if he got tonked in his first over like Gambhir did, then at least he can say he tried something different.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 19:04
Blackwell actually is a decent one day player for us. Containing spinner that usually takes a wicket or 2, and a good bat. once he gets over the mental block with his batting and can produce one half century or something (he is definitely talented enough to do this), he will contribute with the bat as regularly as the ball.

I also am ashamed to admit we are missing Giles, I dont like him but we needed another spinner today. Kabir was utter crap.

I think Flintoff should have let KP bowl some of his off spin, even if he got tonked in his first over like Gambhir did, then at least he can say he tried something different.

Didn't KP want to be an allrounder until before Pak tour and Fletcher asked him to concentrate on batting? This shows that KP thinks that he has it in him to be a bowler. It would have been great to see him bowl though.

James
31st March 2006, 19:07
Sad KP obsessive like I am I have KP's only overs in international cricket in the back of my mind. He bowled some overs against Zimbabwe in one of his first games, and there were total and utter tosh. Still, that was a while ago and I would like to see if he's improved. Today was as good an opportunity as any to test his off spin.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 19:12
Still I cant believe you picked Boucher ahead of Lara on the basis of a few innings compared to Lara's years of quality output, and I for some reason dont think am the only one with this opinion.

Yaar, what kinda statement is this? Show me how Lara has played against Warne and Murali after they graduated to being great spinners (after year 2000). As far as I remember, in late 80s and early 90s, only Pak had good spinners and rest of the world either didn't have spinners in their team or if they did, their quality was poor. India had tried various spinners like Hirwani, Venkatpaty Raju, Yadav, SivaRamaKrishnan but they were also poor and worked only on home grounds that were rank turners.

Waiting for your proof....

Tupac
31st March 2006, 19:24
Yaar, what kinda statement is this? Show me how Lara has played against Warne and Murali after they graduated to being great spinners (after year 2000). As far as I remember, in late 80s and early 90s, only Pak had good spinners and rest of the world either didn't have spinners in their team or if they did, their quality was poor. India had tried various spinners like Hirwani, Venkatpaty Raju, Yadav, SivaRamaKrishnan but they were also poor and worked only on home grounds that were rank turners.

Waiting for your proof....

Lara vs SRL in SRL in 2001

621 runs in 3 matches, highest of 221, at an average of over 100

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 19:25
[QUOTE=Romali_rotti]
yes, he is still performing i agree 1 double century in donkey no of matches...

just like his best buddie sachin endulkar 1 double hundred against the best team in the world


yes indeed , lara is the best with sachin obviously :30:


with regards to boucher , im not 100% since i have never seen him do good in the sub-continent..................so no comments on boucher but he looked decent against spin in austrailia......in my personal opinion rahul dravid is a better player against spin, and i would be more then happy to swap him with boucher....!

Lara's double century was on a 1st day Adelaide pitch. In the 2nd innings, when the ball was turning, he got out on 17 to Warne. Except for this double hundred, he was very uncomfortable against spin throughout that tour. On the other hand, Bravo played 2 classic innings, one in Brisbane where he made 122 on the last day pitch, and the other in Adelaide, where he made 64 batting 2nd. I had watched those matches live and Bravo's innings were definitely not fluke. He looked in complete authority.

aggarwald
31st March 2006, 19:36
Lara vs SRL in SRL in 2001

621 runs in 3 matches, highest of 221, at an average of over 100

That's a good find. Based on the scorecards, it seems Lara played really well.

But from what I have seen recently, that is watching live matches, he has struggled against good spin.

greentie
31st March 2006, 19:56
The Indian ODI juggernaut keeps on rolling along. Indians are playing with more tactics in their bowling and batting, which can directly be attributed to Mr. Chappell. You can just tell when the Indian batters come out, that they have been told a specific strategy by the coach and they are executing. Its remarkable how someone unexpected keeps on bailing the Indians out. If the star players do not fire, someone else gets the job down, a sign of a very well balanced ODI team. Mr. Chappell and Dravid are on the same page and its remarkable how a coaching change can make this much of a difference. Now hopefully they have peaked too early and bum out when the World Cup comes around.

I predicted India to win against Pak 4-1, and win the series against England 6-1, or if England is lucky, 5-2.

Rob H
31st March 2006, 21:07
I'm very miffed that we couldnt get India all out when they were 5/92. I think this series will be 6-1 or 5-2 to India now. That was our chance to give ourselves in this series and we mucked it up. Typical ODI England.

Easa
31st March 2006, 22:01
I'm very miffed that we couldnt get India all out when they were 5/92. I think this series will be 6-1 or 5-2 to India now. That was our chance to give ourselves in this series and we mucked it up. Typical ODI England.

India - 7

England - 0

Rickz
31st March 2006, 22:06
India - 7

England - 0

I hope mate.

India is number 3 in the odi rankings!, a good win for India today, I honestly thought India was goners with the situation at 92/5 with usual match-winners Dravid, Kaif and Yuvraj back in the pavilion, more benefits for India, Raina might be a bevan in the making, Dhoni can finesh things off, and India has finally got batting depth!, Indias thumping to oppisitions continues.