The India appreciation society presents....[all congrats etc threads merged]

[D BHAI]

:14: Congratulations !!! :14:



looking forward for Abu Dhabi Matches!

[APOCALYPSE]

India still the world largest chokers in ODI....I predict Pakistan to get 10 consecutive victories and 20 victories consecutively chasing.

We will do it because we have Inzi as captain, the greatest batsman in cricket history.

[Monsee]

Congrats 'Flat Track Bullies'... :P

[Mercenary]

They have won their last 16 games when chasing a target.

However they have lost 10 out of their last 16 games when setting a target.

[D BHAI]

Are you Jealous? Mr. Monsee.

[Blistering Barnacle]

Congrats 'Flat Track Bullies'... :P

I think that's a little small of you to say.

India have shown by beating Pak 4-1 and Eng 5-1 that they are either the best or second-best team in the world at present. I frankly would love to see a 3 or 5 ODI series between Aus and India right now.

[Monsee]

Are you Jealous? Mr. Monsee.



Yeah I am jealous :15:

BTW, why would I be jealous since according to everyone in the Indian Fan base 'Tests are the Real Thing' and that's the way I feel too...we know where that stands for now :D

[Monsee]

I think that's a little small of you to say.

India have shown by beating Pak 4-1 and Eng 5-1 that they are either the best or second-best team in the world at present. I frankly would love to see a 3 or 5 ODI series between Aus and India right now.



The last ODI India played outside Asia was???

How many of these last 3-4 series were not played in Asia???

[Mercenary]

Also 38 out of India's last 50 ODI's have all been played in Asia.

Apart from 2 wins in Zimbabwe and 4 wins in Pakistan, the rest of India's 16 consecutive ODI wins when chasing have all been played in India!!

It will be intertesting to see how this Indian ODI team performs outside the subcontinent because at the moment they are winning matches almost purely on the basis of their batting.

[Monsee]

And since when did beating England (a team not rated very highly in ODIs) is considered an achievement of some sorts???


On the back of all these performences, while playing at HOME...the word 'Flat Track Bullies' definitely comes to mind

[Monsee]

I think that's a little small of you to say.

India have shown by beating Pak 4-1 and Eng 5-1 that they are either the best or second-best team in the world at present. I frankly would love to see a 3 or 5 ODI series between Aus and India right now.





Since you think I was being small, let me show you a post vindicating my views, at least until India goes overseas and proves me wrong...



Originally posted by Mercenary

Also 38 out of India's last 50 ODI's have all been played in Asia.

Apart from 2 wins in Zimbabwe and 4 wins in Pakistan, the rest of India's 16 consecutive ODI wins when chasing have all been played in India!!

It will be intertesting to see how this Indian ODI team performs outside the subcontinent because at the moment they are winning matches almost purely on the basis of their batting.



I guess everyone is being small in your mind, eh
:21:

[Osman]

ah well india still suk at test matches ... FACT !!!!!

[Osman]

Flat Trak Bullies Nothing More Nothing Less ....

[Romali_rotti]

Since you think I was being small, let me show you a post vindicating my views, at least until India goes overseas and proves me wrong...







I guess everyone is being small in your mind, eh
:21:

Monsee this is so sad man, you have to come and start your sourness into this thread, I mean people have a go at me when I joke around but you are beyond me, you are obsessed... Well this is the Pak cricket board and you can say whatever you want, but it is not all that bad to congradulate a special achievement. I mean 16 wins chasing is a super effort regardless of where or who you are playing...

Anyway Congradulations to my TEAM :D , wait a go boyzzzz especially my MAN SREE.....

[Gasherbrum]

wins a win. congratulations to india. becoming hard to beat in ODIs.

[AT1]

congrats to india.. well deserved!

[Noman]

Monsee India did perform well in 2003 world cup and in was not in sub continent

[jusarrived]

ODI's it dosen really matter wer is ts played ..u see 300+ scored n chased even in aus ,SA n NZ these days!

[Monsee]

Monsee this is so sad man, you have to come and start your sourness into this thread, I mean people have a go at me when I joke around but you are beyond me, you are obsessed... Well this is the Pak cricket board and you can say whatever you want, but it is not all that bad to congradulate a special achievement. I mean 16 wins chasing is a super effort regardless of where or who you are playing...

Anyway Congradulations to my TEAM :D , wait a go boyzzzz especially my MAN SREE.....



Don't get your panties in a twist...I have seen you congratulate a Pak win with a smirk too

I just barely said what I felt about Indian record on Flat Tracks...

Care to show me the games they won, out of those 16 chases, against a quality side away from the comfort of Asia...I will now eat my Big Box of Snickers and wait for a reply :21:

[Monsee]

Monsee India did perform well in 2003 world cup and in was not in sub continent



And did they win the cup...

[Monsee]

ODI's it dosen really matter wer is ts played ..u see 300+ scored n chased even in aus ,SA n NZ these days!


When India does just that, what they just recently achieved i.e. winning almost non-stop and consecutive matches, away from Asia, against almost any team...do ring me up

I will then issue my appologies...until then chao

[Monsee]

Flat Trak Bullies Nothing More Nothing Less ....



Read the thread 'Congratulate India' and you would think I killed someone with similar comments

[usman_mhd123]

we beat england 2-0 in test series(Pakistan) and we were supposed to get thrashed 3-0 there and India tied 1-1 with with 5 of their key players missing. isn't test the real game anyway, Mr. Indians. not to mention Karachi

[jusarrived]

When India does just that, what they just recently achieved i.e. winning almost non-stop and consecutive matches, away from Asia, against almost any team...do ring me up

I will then issue my appologies...until then chao

can I say the same thing about pakistans recent Tests sucess also??

[Monsee]

can I say the same thing about pakistans recent Tests sucess also??



BUT, do you see us 'Thumping Our Chests and Calling for Murder'...we know we are still behind Aussies, and England, and close to SA

How about you show me the last 3-5 year record of India in ODIs, outside Asia and I will do the same for Pakistan in Tests...

[Noman]

I think India will beat Pakistan in abu dhabi....
We need Shoaib Akhtar, wasim Akram, Saqlain back if we want to win against them

[Farah]

I think India will beat Pakistan in abu dhabi....
We need Shoaib Akhtar, wasim Akram, Saqlain back if we want to win against them

I wudnt be so sure, we didnt have saqlain/wasim/akhtar in Ind did we when we were 2-0 dwn and won 4 games in a row ? :)

[lahori]

I have to admit after watching India's recent winning streak and their successful high run chases they are at least the 2nd best ODI team right now. Congratulations.

[Solid Snake]

Becoming quite a force to be reckoned with...

Could have quite a good world cup campaign, only big obstacle in their way is politics; i.e. should they play sachin even though he barely scores, and sourav ganguly etc...

Otherwise showing great promise, Windies conditions are not much different, picth wise to the subcontinent

[W63L35]

yeh....they are having a nice run .....they have long way to go before they join top 4;
ALL ODIs
Team ODIs Won Lost Tied NR Win %
South Africa 355 216 124 5 10 62.60
Australia 622 378 219 8 17 62.47
West Indies 528 291 216 5 16 56.83
Pakistan 633 340 274 6 13 54.83
England 433 212 203 4 14 50.59
Africa XI 3 1 1 0 1 50.00
India 615 293 295 3 24 49.57

[aggarwald]

Congratulations team India. But I would be interested to see how India does against England when there is real bounce in the pitch.

[Monsee]

Congratulations team India. But I would be interested to see how India does against England when there is real bounce in the pitch.



England might not be the real test...

Playing against NZ, Aussies, SA, and then maybe England...on their home pitches; now that would be the Real Test!

If India comes out with even a 50/50 record, that would definitely put them amongst the top 3 ODI teams.

Good record at home and chasing even 300+ runs on these flat pitches means jack and the end result should be taken with a pinch of salt

Obviously I am being jealous according to a few in this thread :|

[smoothcriminal]

man why cant just some people give credit where its due.. India practically whooped pakistans and england's a55, and i am a pakistani.. right now they are in very good form.. and just accept it for what it is rather than making terms like flat track bullies etc, if they are flat track bullies we are nothing more/less than that.

[Monsee]

man why cant just some people give credit where its due.. India practically whooped pakistans and england's a55, and i am a pakistani.. right now they are in very good form.. and just accept it for what it is rather than making terms like flat track bullies etc, if they are flat track bullies we are nothing more/less than that.



If you don't know what is really being said than try not to get your leg in just to sound PC...

All I am saying is all this "Talk about being 2nd Best ODI is premature" Until they can even win half of their games in trying conditions, alien to their batsmen

[Monsee]

Here you go Mr. Smoothcriminal, an independent observation about that so-called A$$ Kicking by India

"The recent series defeat to India was seen by many as establishing their neighbours’ superiority in this form of the game but the result need not be terminal given that their 4-1 loss followed only months after Inzy’s men won 4-2 in India."

:21:

[PlanetPakistan]

Excellent performance from IND!
They really seem to be becoming a fantastic ODI team!
The next 2 games vs PAK will be intresting! India will be the favorites!

[W63L35]

Here you go Mr. Smoothcriminal, an independent observation about that so-called A$$ Kicking by India

"The recent series defeat to India was seen by many as establishing their neighbours’ superiority in this form of the game but the result need not be terminal given that their 4-1 loss followed only months after Inzy’s men won 4-2 in India."

:21:

Totally agree Monsee......
India did NOT play great or even good cricket when they beat us 4-1. It was us who played "bad" cricket by letting them win! We just did not SHOW UP!!
Yes, I'll give them credit for drawing ODI sereis with RSA ......thats it! Win againg SL was against a team which is on decline and totally out of form. Even we beat them in their back yard.
Wins vs Eng are, as you know, against an extremely depleted side which was without Vaughan, Tresco, Flintoff(3 matches), Jones, Hoggardm(4 matches). These were the key Eng players who missed the ODI series. Then in first 2-3 ODI, India prepared spinning wickets...which caught Eng off-gaurd........
What and where should I give credit to?????

[entralinks]

Well done India.

[Edited]

[Raz]

If you don't know what is really being said than try not to get your leg in just to sound PC...

All I am saying is all this "Talk about being 2nd Best ODI is premature" Until they can even win half of their games in trying conditions, alien to their batsmen

Exactly. Look at Dhoni, he was and is still being worshipped like a God in India for his heroics in the subcontinent on flat pitches, but the last time he played on a pitch where there was assistance for bowlers, did he score a century, did he score even a half century?

Only when he scores big on conditions and pitches, suited more for bowlers will I be convinced by Dhoni.

[pakistani pride]

Congrats ! See Ya Next Week . . . .

[Easa]

Congrats.

We'll whip them soon enough, though.

[greentie]

And did they win the cup...

Atleast they made it to the finals, our hopes were crushed by them, did you forget the lashing your fav tendu put on us?

[greentie]

Also 38 out of India's last 50 ODI's have all been played in Asia.

Apart from 2 wins in Zimbabwe and 4 wins in Pakistan, the rest of India's 16 consecutive ODI wins when chasing have all been played in India!!

It will be intertesting to see how this Indian ODI team performs outside the subcontinent because at the moment they are winning matches almost purely on the basis of their batting.

Yeah, welcome to modern ODI cricket. Batting wins matches more often than bowling. People want to see excitement, more runs, heck, even 400 plus is not enough these days.

[Tariq Jamshed]

I can see quite a few of the current Indian ODI batsman struggling on surfaces with more pace, and esp more bounce. It certainly holds true for Raina and Dhoni, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Yuvraj as well.

[the_game]

Atleast they made it to the finals, our hopes were crushed by them, did you forget the lashing your fav tendu put on us?

Are you another one of those trolls who expects us to believe that you are a Pakistani supporter :10: ?

[mooz]

Are you another one of those trolls who expects us to believe that you are a Pakistani supporter :10: ?

he is pakistani, I can't imagine a more pakistani username.

[the_game]

he is pakistani, I can't imagine a more pakistani username.

Oldest trick in the book for Indian trolls; pick a username with Green or Pak in it.

[Uzi]

Atleast they made it to the finals, our hopes were crushed by them, did you forget the lashing your fav tendu put on us?

After seeing a couple of greentie's posts today, he definitely is an Indian troll.

[TaxiDriver]

If you don't know what is really being said than try not to get your leg in just to sound PC...

MONSEE your anger cracks me up!...calm down brother...calm down...easy man easy :))

I hear what you're saying bro...you don't need to go on and on trying to explain yourself...I know what you mean...do gooder every where just stating the obvious garbage. So just leave it bro!

Well done India...hope your run in meaningless matches continues...just for the sake of our one-billion brothers. Well Done.

[W63L35]

After seeing a couple of greentie's posts today, he definitely is an Indian troll.

I checked his all 30 mails....all of his 30 posts are India related. If the Troll is Pakisatani, then he could have made at least one or two non-Indian comments....&*@^%!$ Troll!

[TaxiDriver]

Oldest trick in the book for Indian trolls; pick a username with Green or Pak in it.
Seriously??? Man that's funny s#iT :))
I'm new to this Troll hunting...any more tips? :)))

[greentie]

Alright, yes thats it, I am an Indian troll that loves to come on a Pakistani board. Look, if i was an indian supporter, I would come out and say it. I love my team, which is Pakistan, and I support them no matter what. Im sorry if I am objective, and congratulate other teams like India for their winning ways, i dont blindly follow cricket. I wanted Pakistan to win against India the last series as well, Im sorry if I thought India would take it 4-1, and that was the end result. Im not going to sit here and make stupid comments like "Pakistan will crush India", "India sucks", "Tendulkar is not a great batsmen". I like to be objective, just like other supporters on this board who acknowledge that RIGHT NOW, India is playing better ODI cricket than us. Yes its true they have played most of their games in Asia, but when have we have played that many games in Asia, have we won 16 straight chasing? I cannot stand it that whenever another team, especially India does anything good, excuses start, "ohh they played an inferior team", "they played all their games at home", give it a break. India have done well recently because of many reasons, one probably being GC being the coach as he is more aggresive, introduction of youngster who are performing well, and pitches that are made these days for batting.

I have never supported India, never will, but if they do well, especially in ODIs, I have no problem in saying they have a better ODI side than us. Its not just me, I am sure if you asked someone other than Pakistani or Indian, they would say the samething. Obviously if a Pakistani supporter says it, ohhh my, he must be an Indian troll.

[greentie]

I checked his all 30 mails....all of his 30 posts are India related. If the Troll is Pakisatani, then he could have made at least one or two non-Indian comments....&*@^%!$ Troll!

Thats true, that they probably are all India related because I hate how everyone is so obsessed with what India does!! Did you read my post regarding the economics of cricket? I was just stating the obvious, that the Indian team is so hyped up, that even on our boards, there are so many damn posts regarding the Indians. Now where I live, I have many Indian friends, and they do not care two craps about what Pakistani cricketers are doing. I mean i remember 10 years ago, when they would know much about our team, but they are more interested in when India plays Australia, not Pakistan. I just feel like we are giving into this entire Indian media machine, on how they are economically superior than us, but no one notices, we keep talking about them, while they really dont care.

[aggarwald]

I mean i remember 10 years ago, when they would know much about our team, but they are more interested in when India plays Australia, not Pakistan.

You are wrong. Ind vs Pak games are still the biggest draw in India.

[W63L35]

I love my team, which is Pakistan, and I support them no matter what. .

Ok.....prove it then! Go to all of your previous 30 posts and show me ONE good thing you have said about Pak team and ONE bad thing you have said about India Team?

I was just stating the obvious, that the Indian team is so hyped up, that even on our boards, there are so many damn posts regarding the Indians. .

Now....don't say that this is the "bad" thing you said about team Inda....becuase its not team's fault that it is hyped. Its fans/media's fault.


Now where I live, I have many Indian friends, and they do not care two craps about what Pakistani cricketers are doing. .
I don't know which planet you live on but I live in a college town USA and I know a lots of Indians. I have some very nice Indian friends but let me tell you.......they DO CARE about Pak team. After they beat us in WC2003, in my town and all over the net, every Indian said..."we have won our WC today"!!!

This comment PROVES that you are an Indian TROLL who is trying to tell us that you don't care about us....and if you didn't then what are you doing on this forum? :21:

Thats true, that they probably are all India related because I hate how everyone is so obsessed with what India does!!
You are WRONG......I don't know about other PPers but only thing I am OBSESSED with is,......to get TROLLS like you out of fools paradise who think their players are best in the world and their team is best in the world! Just trying to bring them down to Earth!

I just feel like we are giving into this entire Indian media machine, on how they are economically superior than us, but no one notices, we keep talking about them, while they really dont care.
Another comment that PROVE you are an Indian TROLL...who can not prove that team Bindia is NOT a crap team.....and then he brings in "economic superiority".
I have only one question from you "Mr. Objective",....where was this "economic superiority" when Indians were Russian pets...and until USA started sending cheap labor jobs to India?
Why was not a single Miss World/Universe when you were wagging your tails at USSR feet?

I have never supported India, never will, but if they do well, especially in ODIs, have no problem in saying they have a better ODI side than us.
No mention of Test Cricket??? :)
This pretty much gives it away TROLL.....you are an Indian!!Only an Indian KNOWS that team India was/is and always will be crap in test cricket!!! ;-)

[Monsee]

Quote:
Originally Posted by greentie
I mean i remember 10 years ago, when they would know much about our team, but they are more interested in when India plays Australia, not Pakistan.




You are wrong. Ind vs Pak games are still the biggest draw in India.





I have to side with Aggarwald all the way here...

I remember Pak team going to India in the late 70's and 80's and they would have these huge Billboards of Pak players on the road...

What Indians, sane followers only at that, think of Imran is not even funny...they consider him like a Mini god and we are talking about a Pakistani player (No abuse intended here...so Miggy, you can relax). I am just stating what I have seen and heard about Imran from the Indian fans!

To say that a few Indian friends of your's didn't talk about Pak team/players in front of you, does not equate to the whole population of India doing like wise!

Plus, Indians and Pakistanis, living out in the west, don't really behave in the exact same way as someone from Lahore or Mumbai would

[cavin420]

it would be better for india to pull out of the abu dhabi series when they have time to do so, playing pakistan anywhere in the gulf means absolute destruction of india by pakistan :16:

what dont belive me ? then why did you think matches at sharjah were stopped in the first place :13:

[Farhad]

Atleast they made it to the finals, our hopes were crushed by them, did you forget the lashing your fav tendu put on us?

So? You got humiliated TWICE by Aus in the most thumping of fashions. World record after world record in the Final. Must have been quite a damp squib, that.

Heck, the first Pool match, Aus knocked off the runs with approx. 30 overs to spare and with one wicket down, and we all know what lashing your fav Punter put on your team beating them blue in that Final?

Monsee is right. The real test would be away from these flat tracks and onto other pitches of the world. At the moment, India are doing fine, but you can bet your bottom dollar, come a Series in Aus, NZ, SA or in England, they will be back to their usual defeated selves. ;-)

Some of you guys are so pathetic...come on Pak site and pretend to be Muslims / Paks! Pull the other one. Call yourself bluechaaye rather.

[Monsee]

it would be better for india to pull out of the abu dhabi series when they have time to do so, playing pakistan anywhere in the gulf means absolute destruction of india by pakistan :16:

what dont belive me ? then why did you think matches at sharjah were stopped in the first place :13:



Oh no you see you are wrong there...It was all due to political reasons

Umma Bharti said so too :15:

Off course now that there is no Political tension due to the pardises that are Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Northern parts of Pakistan...the games resume ASAP...

[Monsee]

BTW, what do any Trolls achieve by pretending to be Pakistani...is it the inherent deceive, stab, and defeat nature that makes them do such foolish things

Back at sportsnetwork, whenever I would go to the Parosiite site, every Tom, Dick, and Harry would be able to guess which team I supported and off course don't even get me started on the carnage I left behind there :16: :16:

I hear Moms still scare their kids to sleep by telling about 'GreatSharkTeeth and his exploits'

[aggarwald]

Ok.....prove it then! Go to all of your previous 30 posts and show me ONE good thing you have said about Pak team and ONE bad thing you have said about Bindia Team?



Now....don't say that this is the "bad" thing you said about team Binda...


Can you atleast not show disrespect to the name?

[Farhad]

BTW, what do any Trolls achieve by pretending to be Pakistani...is it the inherent deceive, stab, and defeat nature that makes them do such foolish things

Back at sportsnetwork, whenever I would go to the Parosiite site, every Tom, Dick, and Harry would be able to guess which team I supported and off course don't even get me started on the carnage I left behind there :16: :16:

I hear Moms still scare their kids to sleep by telling about 'GreatSharkTeeth and his exploits'

:91: :91: :91:

Have you noticed that unmistakable loser Gambit has stopped posting here now. Came on another alias "Immi" after being terminated. Got found out, and is shy now. :P

[W63L35]

......but when have we have played that many games in Asia, have we won 16 straight chasing?

OK Troll.....you asked for comparison...you got comparison;

Here is team India's and Pak's ODI record in 2000s;
P W L T n/r win%
India: 2000s 191 101 84 0 6 55%
Pakistan: 2000s 190 109 78 0 3 58%

Even AFTER your "great" 16 win streak, you are still BELOW Pak!

Now, let talk about winning streaks;
Here is Paksitan's top two yearly win/loss record in ODIs;

1990 21 16 5 0 0 76%
1994 28 20 7 1 0 73%

Here is India's top two yearly win/loss record in ODIs;
1994 25 16 8 0 1 67%
1993 18 11 6 1 0 64%

India has this record going on for 2006, which will change as they play more matches;
2006 11 9 2 0 0 82%

See, how we are USED to streaks and wining while you guy get a decent streak in ages and strat jumping up and down!

.......and who says "chasing and winning" better than just plain "winning"? You can take your "chasing" streak and put is where.... well, you know what I mean!

......
I cannot stand it that whenever another team, especially India does anything good, excuses start, "ohh they played an inferior team", "they played all their games at home", give it a break.

Let me get you a little more upset by posting these 4 points from another forum;
1) Beating a declining (totally out of form) SL team at home? Big deal! We beat the same side in their back yard!
2) Drawn series vs RSA - you can see how they were trashed by Aus. They did not even make to Tri-series final in Aus. SL qualified ahead of them!
3) Beating a totally depleted Eng side at home/hot coditions?
Even Zimbabwe could be this Eng side with out their TOP 4/5 players.
4) You did not beat Pakistan 4-1. Pakistan beat themsleves. Pakistan played badly - not that Ind played great cricket. Yes, Dhoni and Yuvraj played great but it was Pakistan who lost the series - not that India won it! You remember what happened in Karachi test when Pak played to its potential!

[W63L35]

Can you atleast not show disrespect to the name?

I am sorry aggarwald, this was ONLY directed to green tie. Will be careful in future. I have changed it.

[Farhad]

OK Troll.....you asked for comparison...you got comparison;

Here is team India's and Pak's ODI record in 2000s;
P W L T n/r win%
India: 2000s 191 101 84 0 6 55%
Pakistan: 2000s 190 109 78 0 3 58%

Even AFTER your "great" 16 win streak, you are still BELOW Pak!

Now, let talk about winning streaks;
Here is Paksitan's top two yearly win/loss record in ODIs;

1990 21 16 5 0 0 76%
1994 28 20 7 1 0 73%

Here is India's top two yearly win/loss record in ODIs;
1994 25 16 8 0 1 67%
1993 18 11 6 1 0 64%

India has this record going on for 2006, which will change as they play more matches;
2006 11 9 2 0 0 82%

See, how we are USED to streaks and wining while you guy get a decent streak in ages and strat jumping up and down!

.......and who says "chasing and winning" better than just plain "winning"? You can take your "chasing" streak and put is where.... well, you know what I mean!



Let me get you a little more upset by posting these 4 points from another forum;
1) Beating a declining (totally out of form) SL team at home? Big deal! We beat the same side in their back yard!
2) Drawn series vs RSA - you can see how they were trashed by Aus. They did not even make to Tri-series final in Aus. SL qualified ahead of them!
3) Beating a totally depleted Eng side at home/hot coditions?
Even Zimbabwe could be this Eng side with out their TOP 4/5 players.
4) You did not beat Pakistan 4-1. Pakistan beat themsleves. Pakistan played badly - not that Ind played great cricket. Yes, Dhoni and Yuvraj played great but it was Pakistan who lost the series - not that India won it! You remember what happened in Karachi test when Pak played to its potential!

Brilliant work, dude! :D :D

[jusarrived]

So? You got humiliated TWICE by Aus in the most thumping of fashions. World record after world record in the Final. Must have been quite a damp squib, that.

Heck, the first Pool match, Aus knocked off the runs with approx. 30 overs to spare and with one wicket down, and we all know what lashing your fav Punter put on your team beating them blue in that Final?

bluechaaye rather.

Lords,London
20,june 1999 ...do I need to explain???

[Monsee]

:91: :91: :91:

Have you noticed that unmistakable loser Gambit has stopped posting here now. Came on another alias "Immi" after being terminated. Got found out, and is shy now. :P


I know, I kicked him a bit too...it's fun doing it to the Trolls while they try to show their undying love for Mother Pakistan :D

[cavin420]

Lords,London
20,june 1999 ...do I need to explain???
who was the last team to beat austrailia in a world cup match :13:



hint: wasnt india!!!!

[Monsee]

who was the last team to beat austrailia in a world cup match :13:



hint: wasnt india!!!!



And guess who was the last to beat Aussie in an ODI series...not team India :21:

[Farhad]

Lords,London
20,june 1999 ...do I need to explain???

You don't need to explain. They massacred you TWICE in the same '03 tournament. We lost the Final to them but beat Aus in Headingley in that '99 WC Pool match. I was there, and that happens to be the best match I've ever witnessed.

And before you start your familiar rant about 4 WC wins over us, may I need to remind you of the overall all-time record in India, in Pak and in neutral venues between your country and mine??

We have even defeated you in your backyard in both your commemorative tournaments / events - Nehru Cup '89 and BCCI Platinum Jubilee match '04! Does not get any better and sweeter than that. :30:

[W63L35]

Lords,London
20,june 1999 ...do I need to explain???

Headingly, Leeds
23, May 1999.......at least we beat them in the
pool match!

...........typical behaviour......when these guys can't
win an Pak vs Ind (cricket) argument, they'll start
bring up Pak's losses to other team! I am surpirsed
you haven't mention Inzi's record in Aus/RSA so far! ;-)

I just posted some stats about "wining streaks" and
records in 2000s ....just read and reply! :21:

[cavin420]

I know, I kicked him a bit too...it's fun doing it to the Trolls while they try to show their undying love for Mother Pakistan :D
i would say love for father pakistan ;)

[cavin420]

jussarived my deer friend, i think its about time if you jussleft ;)

looking forward to the abu dhabi series, will do all my talking on tuesday now :16:

[jusarrived]

And before you start your familiar rant about 4 WC wins over us,


thanks for reminding cos am really bad with all these stats..I have also forgotten the last time we lost to you :D

[jusarrived]

Headingly, Leeds
23, May 1999.......at least we beat them in the
pool match!

...........typical behaviour......when these guys can't
win an Pak vs Ind (cricket) argument, they'll start
bring up Pak's losses to other team! I am surpirsed
you haven't mention Inzi's record in Aus/RSA so far! ;-)

I just posted some stats about "wining streaks" and
records in 2000s ....just read and reply! :21:


who brought up indias WC final topic first?? Hint: wasnt me!

[W63L35]

Hey, GreenTie.....where are you bud?

I had just started to warm up......;-)

[Tupac]

Ok.....prove it then! Go to all of your previous 30 posts and show me ONE good thing you have said about Pak team and ONE bad thing you have said about India Team?

You are WRONG......I don't know about other PPers but only thing I am OBSESSED with is,......to get TROLLS like you out of fools paradise who think their players are best in the world and their team is best in the world! Just trying to bring them down to Earth!

;-)

christ in heaven my man....you need a girl

[cavin420]

christ in heaven my man....you need a girl
:)):)) nice 1 :19:

[Monsee]

christ in heaven my man....you need a girl



And I know you have found yours in 'Sonita'... :21:

[Romali_rotti]

The forces of sourness is in full effect in this thread i notice LOL, but thanks to all the real pakpassioners who gave credit where it was due...

[Blistering Barnacle]

These days most ODI pitches are flat, the recent exception being Pak in Sri Lanka.

The highest scoring match ever was just recently played in SA.

I think India have a very good ODI team. All of you comparing stats in the 2000s and overall records, come on, that's no indication of current form whatsoever.

On current form, India is a very good ODI team, just as Pak was a very good ODI team last year. Pak has dipped a bit since then, only beating England 3-2 and losing to India 4-1.

Pak has a chance to rectify that soon against India, but people should accept that India has performed very well recently - well enough to be considered right up there with the Aus ODI team.

[cavin420]

just one question, when was the last time , india beat austrailia in an ODI ? :13:

[Monsee]

On current form, India is a very good ODI team, just as Pak was a very good ODI team last year. Pak has dipped a bit since then, only beating England 3-2 and losing to India 4-1.




You lecture everyone about how we cannot judge on the basis of this and that and yet conveniently forget that Pak lost the last ODI game against England 'only after the series was already secured' and we rested a few players and the game had lost all meaning for most of us!

All I am saying YET Again, for the 1000th time, Until India played outside Asia against the top teams i.e. Aussies, SA, NZ at home and even England in England, this hyping up of team India as the 2nd Best ODI team and that of Maajha Singh, Laloo Parsad, and Bharuch Rickshaw is a bit over the top!

RR, go, leave immediately aren't you running late for you know what... :21:

[Schiller]

India are playing well at the moment, nothing less nothing more

[Monsee]

India are playing well at the moment, nothing less nothing more



Now Basi_Roti will now tell you how you are insanely jealous and then produce 1001 stats of Tendulkar to prove that India is No 2 ODI team :20: :13:

[Monsee]

just one question, when was the last time , india beat austrailia in an ODI ? :13:



Here you go...it was almost 9 years ago

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/IND/BY_OPPONENT/AUS-IND//ODI/AUS-IND_ODI_SERIES_SUMMARY.html

[akpower]

Well, some very childish posts here.

We beat England and we starting saying that we're 2nd best after Aus. But when Ind defeated Eng, its unfair to say that its not a big deal. Btw when did we did anything noticeable outside the subcontinent. After winning the odi's nicely, we struggle against a truly pathetic team called the West Indies. So, really we shd first look at ourselves.

As much as we HATE to admit, and i have to say that i would have rather not written this post, but very honestly India is playing extremely well right now. Gotta give credit where due. The main thing is that their young players are coming good and thats always a good thing for any team. Esp Yuvraj who i think has established himself as a top notch odi player with 3 player of teh series awards.

Its on us now to step up an beat team india. We shd also be strong enough to appreciate when other teams do well. Coz if we cant do that then we're nothing short of being pathetic.

[Romali_rotti]

Monsee, you realise even I dont like SRT as much as you do... LOL .. I also hear a few posters asking how India has stacked up against Aus, since we are on that topic what's INZI's record vs aus? When was the last time INZI & Pak have beaten Aus in a series?.. Gimme a list of stats from 96 onwards to see who out of Ind/Pak has fared better against AUs in both tests and one dayers...

[Schiller]

chorr day romali, let it be that india is doing well and thats good enough for now

[cavin420]

Monsee, you realise even I dont like SRT as much as you do... LOL .. I also hear a few posters asking how India has stacked up against Aus, since we are on that topic what's INZI's record vs aus? When was the last time INZI & Pak have beaten Aus in a series?.. Gimme a list of stats from 96 onwards to see who out of Ind/Pak has fared better against AUs in both tests and one dayers...
what are sehwag,s stats against bangladesh ;)

[cavin420]

Here you go...it was almost 9 years ago

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/IND/BY_OPPONENT/AUS-IND//ODI/AUS-IND_ODI_SERIES_SUMMARY.html
9 years :O :O

did i just hear that right ?

monsee pehlwaan you serious ?

almost 9 years :O

i bet would be in india , on them tailor made extra spinning wickets ;)

[Schiller]

cavin yar chorr bhi day

[Romali_rotti]

Comma


In my Op India is prolly the 4th best one day side after AUs, ENg,Pak...But this was just an appreciation thread, no need to turn into a hostile anti-india movement by the forces of sourness LOL..

May the Force be with you Monseeeee hehehe LOL

[Schiller]

Comma


In my Op India is prolly the 4th best one day side after AUs, ENg,Pak...But this was just an appreciation thread, no need to turn into a hostile anti-india movement by the forces of sourness LOL..

May the Force be with you Monseeeee hehehe LOL


lets not worry about rankings yar and just enjoy the show ;)

dont get tempted and neither bait - Bible?

[cavin420]

cavin yar chorr bhi day
cavin nai chor diya...!

and roti is a deer friend of mine ;) btw, well played and congratulations, (even though the series was fixed :P

[cavin420]

Comma


In my Op India is prolly the 4th best one day side after AUs, ENg,Pak...But this was just an appreciation thread, no need to turn into a hostile anti-india movement by the forces of sourness LOL..

May the Force be with you Monseeeee hehehe LOL
i agree with you, but where on earth did england come from ? you do realize your using ONE day sides......

england ? you serious ?

[Schiller]

waisay england's team is nowhere near the top rr

[MIG]

India are without doubt enjoying a great period of ODI dominance - good news for Indian fans is that it comes close ( well about a year to go ) before the WC so I would expect hopes of lifting the cup are extremely high !

Pak have some work to do to get their ODI form back on line - some work already done with SL tour and some work to be done in England ( and in Abu Dhabi as well )

[UJ]

India are without doubt enjoying a great period of ODI dominance - good news for Indian fans is that it comes close ( well about a year to go ) before the WC so I would expect hopes of lifting the cup are extremely high !

Pak have some work to do to get their ODI form back on line - some work already done with SL tour and some work to be done in England ( and in Abu Dhabi as well )

Our loss to India was the only loss we have had in quite some time in ODIs. I dont think there is THAT much more we need to do, fielding probably is one area we can improve though. Overall, we are in good form a year out from the WC too.

[cavin420]

i think india have peaked well before time, wait until they slump back again , as for pakistan it really doesnt matter, we always have been unpredictable.

if india want to win the world cup or even make it to the semi,s they need to bring back Saurav DADA ASAP.

[cavin420]

by the way rotti bhai, i watched that indian team arriving in newzealand video (bhajji and DADA one) was hilarious, is the immigration that strict on the airport ? i mean do they really have a shoe fetish ? :13:

[Schiller]

i think india have peaked well before time, wait until they slump back again , as for pakistan it really doesnt matter, we always have been unpredictable.

if india want to win the world cup or even make it to the semi,s they need to bring back Saurav DADA ASAP.


:91:

good shot :D

[Romali_rotti]

by the way rotti bhai, i watched that indian team arriving in newzealand video (bhajji and DADA one) was hilarious, is the immigration that strict on the airport ? i mean do they really have a shoe fetish ? :13:

Cav

Bro, I am in AUs not NZ even though my location says NZ, dont ask why lol... Umm and I do believe Eng have a strong one day side that is a full strength full fit side, thats why I put them in the top 3...

[sehban]

hi, i m new here...infact this is my first post...people are saying that india is doing really well n all..but really against us they didnt play extra gud cricket ...we just played some awful cricket to say the least everymatch we were 4 down in less then ten overs n dropped endless no.of catches..if we can get our batting n fielding fixed pakistan can destroy aussies without anyproblem

[MIG]

Welcome to PP Sehban ! Enjoy your stay here.

[Monsee]

Well, some very childish posts here.

We beat England and we starting saying that we're 2nd best after Aus. But when Ind defeated Eng, its unfair to say that its not a big deal. Btw when did we did anything noticeable outside the subcontinent. After winning the odi's nicely, we struggle against a truly pathetic team called the West Indies. So, really we shd first look at ourselves.

As much as we HATE to admit, and i have to say that i would have rather not written this post, but very honestly India is playing extremely well right now. Gotta give credit where due. The main thing is that their young players are coming good and thats always a good thing for any team. Esp Yuvraj who i think has established himself as a top notch odi player with 3 player of teh series awards.

Its on us now to step up an beat team india. We shd also be strong enough to appreciate when other teams do well. Coz if we cant do that then we're nothing short of being pathetic.




:41: :93: Same silly rhetoric again and again and I am not even surprized any more!

No one said we are No 2 in ODIs, after beating England; please produce some posts to back up the claim...After the England series, most here were talking about Tests and even then the majority agreed that Pak still has to beat SA in SA and England in England to really make that claim!

And that was Tests not ODIs...please see a cricket book for the difference between Tests and ODIs

Why don't you in fact show something from this thread that says 'Pak ODI' team is better than India's...

What most here have said is that on the back of wins in Asia, on their favorite flat wickets...it is quite immature and stupid to say they are the 2nd Best Team. They need to beat SA, NZ, Lanka, and even England in Enland to even make that claim!

In fact India's away record is so pathetic, in ODIs (We know how good it is in Tests anyway :D ) that they have never ever won an ODI series against NZ in NZ!

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/IND/BY_OPPONENT/IND-NZ//ODI/IND-NZ_ODI_SERIES_SUMMARY.html

Now repeat what you were saying :21:

[WIW_SRT]

I can see quite a few of the current Indian ODI batsman struggling on surfaces with more pace, and esp more bounce. It certainly holds true for Raina and Dhoni, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Yuvraj as well.


So u r trying to say that Shoaib Akhtar didnt had pace and bounce in Faisalabad test when Dhoni smashed him for six and fours, and he got frustrated to such a extent that Akhtar ended up throwing a beemer. Good ignoring job.And like Pakistan batsmen are so good on pacy wickets.Well get ready for a reality check in England this time.Im sure Younis Khan and Malik , Farhat are going to be a faliure there. Good job of ignorance Tariq Jamshed, WELL DONE :14:

[Monsee]

So u r trying to say that Shoaib Akhtar didnt had pace and bounce in Faisalabad test when Dhoni smashed him for six and fours, and he got frustrated to such a extent that Akhtar ended up throwing a beemer. Good ignoring job.And like Pakistan batsmen are so good on pacy wickets.Well get ready for a reality check in England this time.Im sure Younis Khan and Malik , Farhat are going to be a faliure there. Good job of ignorance Tariq Jamshed, WELL DONE :14:




How can you compare the bounce of a Dead Flat Pancake pitch vs English/Aussie/SA/NZ pitches...you have to be really naiive to even start an argument like that

You need to learn the basics of cricket...how a Fast Bowler becomes an absolute 'Demon' when given the extra pace, bounce, and sharp lift

[z10]

So u r trying to say that Shoaib Akhtar didnt had pace and bounce in Faisalabad test when Dhoni smashed him for six and fours, and he got frustrated to such a extent that Akhtar ended up throwing a beemer. Good ignoring job.And like Pakistan batsmen are so good on pacy wickets.Well get ready for a reality check in England this time.Im sure Younis Khan and Malik , Farhat are going to be a faliure there. Good job of ignorance Tariq Jamshed, WELL DONE :14:


yep, selectivity is the bane of all debate.

Why forget Dhoni's gem of an innings on an actual pacey and seaming wicket in Karachi?

[W63L35]

christ in heaven my man....you need a girl

Any girl you know that you can fix me up with - personally or professionally... ??? :16: :16:

[James]

Why forget Dhoni's gem of an innings on an actual pacey and seaming wicket in Karachi?

:))

[Uzzy]

:)) Good one z10.

[James]

Dhoni is crap.

[MIG]

Any girl you know that you can fix me up with - personally or professionally... ??? :16: :16:

Easy fellas ...

[the_game]

[Edit by Mods: No need for such aggression ]

[hustler]

indias last win against australia in an odi was not 9 years ago, it came in the vb series when they last toured down under 2004, check cric info for stats

[Farhad]

thanks for reminding cos am really bad with all these stats..I have also forgotten the last time we lost to you :D

What really counted massively and what really hurt where it must have hurt the most - Karachi Test! :D :23:

[Farhad]

Dhoni is crap.

On anything other than batsmen-friendly pitches, yes! :26:

[Farhad]

yep, selectivity is the bane of all debate.

Why forget Dhoni's gem of an innings on an actual pacey and seaming wicket in Karachi?

Make it two rather in that most crucial of Tests, where the w/k from the other side showed what difference class batting and footwork can make on such a seaming pitch.

[Monsee]

indias last win against australia in an odi was not 9 years ago, it came in the vb series when they last toured down under 2004, check cric info for stats



Does the word 'Series' means anything to you...I was talking in the context of a series win :26:

[Farhad]

Does the word 'Series' means anything to you...go back and read the post :26:

Poor Parosses are really clutching at straws! :91: :91:

[the_game]

MIG bhai, totally unfair! I was only being "objective" :)) .

[Ahmad]

lovely. Just what the doctor ordered. A shot of a Indo Pak discussion before the start of the series. It ll just make victory that much more sweeter! I can't wait to see Asif having a go at Sehwag and Co.!

[akpower]

:41: :93: Same silly rhetoric again and again and I am not even surprized any more!

No one said we are No 2 in ODIs, after beating England; please produce some posts to back up the claim...After the England series, most here were talking about Tests and even then the majority agreed that Pak still has to beat SA in SA and England in England to really make that claim!

And that was Tests not ODIs...please see a cricket book for the difference between Tests and ODIs

Why don't you in fact show something from this thread that says 'Pak ODI' team is better than India's...

What most here have said is that on the back of wins in Asia, on their favorite flat wickets...it is quite immature and stupid to say they are the 2nd Best Team. They need to beat SA, NZ, Lanka, and even England in Enland to even make that claim!

In fact India's away record is so pathetic, in ODIs (We know how good it is in Tests anyway :D ) that they have never ever won an ODI series against NZ in NZ!

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/IND/BY_OPPONENT/IND-NZ//ODI/IND-NZ_ODI_SERIES_SUMMARY.html

Now repeat what you were saying :21:


I am in no mood to dig out any posts, neither do i have the time monsee to waste in on trying to produce stats or posts or what not. But I saw people say things liek i mentioned before. No need to get defensive, it probably wasn't you but PP has more then 1000 members.

Also, How can we rubbish a performance of another team when we haven't been outstanding ourselves?? Thats just hypocrisy. They played well against England, infact very well and thus won. Simple. I would have rather seen England win but there performances have been dropping ever since the Ashes.

In any case, I see you and some other PPers are just mad coz India won. I personally dont care what Ind does, I just dont like seeing them winning too many game/series coz that gives 'em positive momentum before they play us in a series. But I do have the heart to give 'em credit.

They have some outstanding young players. And Chappell is doing a fine job with them. Have the heart to give the credit where due, that is, India is developing into a top notch one day outfit and that is largely due to the development of their younger players.

Pak has done well off late as well and I would like to think that india odi series was just a minor blip. The onus is on our youngsters to continue on the path of progess and not ditch all the lessons they learned along the way like Salman, Afridi, Rana did in the last couple of months.

A little off topic but i felt like saying all that...

[Monsee]

Also, How can we rubbish a performance of another team when we haven't been outstanding ourselves?? Thats just hypocrisy. They played well against England, infact very well and thus won. Simple. I would have rather seen England win but there performances have been dropping ever since the Ashes.

In any case, I see you and some other PPers are just mad coz India won. I personally dont care what Ind does, I just dont like seeing them winning too many game/series coz that gives 'em positive momentum before they play us in a series. But I do have the heart to give 'em credit.

A little off topic but i felt like saying all that...



This is the main thing that you keep dodging and continue wasting time on stuff that has nothing to do with the argument at hand

"What most here have said is that on the back of wins in Asia, on their favorite flat wickets...it is quite immature and stupid to say they are the 2nd Best Team. They need to beat SA, NZ, Lanka, and even England in Enland to even make that claim!"

[Monsee]

URR.......hate to post monsee but r u suggesting World War 3 or something like that :13:



Fine, but we must ensure it is played out on seaming and bouncy grounds to see who actually won :D

[Farhad]

Just as a sidenote, 5-1 is indeed a nice scoreline. The last time I recall India participated in such a Series was in this Series (click for link) (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1986-87/PAK_IN_IND/) . To top it, the pesky visitors also happened to beat the hosts in the Test Series that accompanied those ODIs.