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Easa
12th July 2006, 20:57
Let the wars begin, I say! Asif and Malik are out, and possibly Younis Khan as well.

Post all match updates, and comments right here. :D Only 13 hours to go. :)

A series between England and Pakistan rarely passes off without incident. In the past there has been Mike Gatting's finger-wagging at Faisalabad, Aaqib Javed's bouncers at Old Trafford and Saqlain Mushtaq's missed no-balls at the same ground. More recently Shahid Afridi showed his dancing skills in the middle of the pitch last winter. That series ended 2-0 to a committed and talented Pakistan team as England's Ashes hangover began to set in. The rematch is shaping up to be a tasty encounter.

Already there have been plenty of incidents to talk about and the tour is barely two weeks old. Pakistan were less than impressed at how their warm-up match against England A developed into a meaningless draw, England have a stand-in (and third choice) captain who has just lost five ODIs on the bounce, while the pace bowlers on both sides continue to drop like flies.

Pakistan have moved into second place in the rankings after England's 1-1 draw with Sri Lanka and start the series as marginal favourites. But Inzamam-ul-Haq said England "were still a good team" before adding: "It doesn't matter where you are in the rankings. Every series is a new series and if you play good cricket you'll win." And Pakistan are not at their strongest with Mohammad Asif ruled out and Shoaib Malik (elbow) and Younis Khan (knee) doubtful.

"Unfortunately he hasn't reacted properly to the injection he had so he will be out," said Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, regarding Asif and then added about Malik: "He's struggling. He had a cortisone injection last night so it depends what happens to it as a reaction."

However, Andrew Strauss, in his first pre-Test press conference as captain, was well aware of Pakistan's threat. "The thing about the winter was their unpredictability. They can turn a game round in one session and you can't afford to relax against them."

Despite the distractions of injuries and all the talk over the captaincy situation, Strauss is ready to lead his country. "The selectors have shown a lot of consistency. Fred [Flintoff] obviously captained the side very well in India and did a good job against Sri Lanka. I've said all long I'm very happy to do the job if other people feel I'm the right man to do it. There's no leadership contest or anything like that."

Strauss will have to have his wits about him, the opening encounter is vital. Pakistan have been shorn of their two leading strike bowlers, Shoaib Akhtar and Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, for most of the series while Asif misses this Test. But quick bowlers - with the ability to swing the ball both ways at pace - grow on trees around the streets of Lahore and Karachi and they have solid reserves in Mohammad Sami and Umar Gul. Pakistan's trump card, however, is Danish Kaneria who bamboozled England in the winter and will enjoy the drying pitches and extended warm spell.

Despite their injury problems, Inzamam is confident in his team: "The batting is more experienced than the bowling and if we put a big score on the board we have a chance to win this game."

England, too, are in the position - a familiar one to them - of having to patch-up their bowling attack. It's a case of gaining one and possibly losing yet another. Steve Harmison is back but Matthew Hoggard is still a doubt and a decision won't to be made until the final minute. With the warm weather around, Monty Panesar will have a key role. "If he [Panesar] can go at two an over in India against their batsmen, it proves he's pretty tricky to get away," said Strauss, "so if people do go after him, he's got more chance of taking wickets."

Undoubtedly the strength of both sides is in the batting. If Pakistan so desire they could have Kamran Akmal as low as No. 8 although the loss of Malik and Younis would cause some problems. Salman Butt and Faisal Iqbal will come in at the top of the order if both the others are ruled out.

England's top-order oozes runs, or at least it should do. It only performed in fits-and-starts against Sri Lanka, usually relying heavily on Kevin Pietersen and Marcus Trescothick. With the captaincy armband, Strauss needs to rediscover the art of making Tests centuries while Paul Collingwood and Ian Bell are probably fighting over one spot when Flintoff returns and must convert starts into substance.

It is impossible for England not to look ahead but, while the wheels have not come off the Test side in the same way as the one-day team, they are starting to look distinctly wobbly. They know the winter challenges but must forget what is happening in four months time. It is the here and now which is important and that starts at Lord's tomorrow morning.

England (probable) 1 Marcus Trescothick, 2 Andrew Strauss (capt), 3 Alastair Cook, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Paul Collingwood, 6 Ian Bell, 7 Geraint Jones (wk), 8 Liam Plunkett, 9 Matthew Hoggard/Jon Lewis, 10 Steve Harmison, 11 Monty Panesar

Pakistan (probable) 1 Salman Butt, 2 Imran Farhat, 3 Faisal Iqbal, 4 Mohammad Yousuf, 5 Inzamam-ul-Haq (capt), 6 Shahid Afridi, 7 Abdul Razzaq 8 Kamran Akmal (wk), 9 Mohammad Sami, 10 Umar Gul, 11 Danish Kaneria

Andrew McGlashan is editorial assistant of Cricinfo

© Cricinfo

MIG
13th July 2006, 06:10
Well done Easa for beating everyone to this thread - 2 PakPassion cookies can now be found in your IE Cache !!

Rest of ya chalaak people: Hold fire until say an hour before start - pls.

MIG
13th July 2006, 06:18
And some more leisure reading until kick off:

From the Telegraph:


Pakistan hurt by injuries
By Simon Briggs


(Filed: 13/07/2006)



News that the International Cricket Council have commissioned a report into player burnout comes a little too late for this series. Both teams go into today's first Test with a better bowling attack sitting in the doctor's surgery than they can put out on the pitch.


England's injury travails are well documented, but Pakistan can probably trump them. Their No 1 seamer, Shoaib Akhtar, looks like missing most of the tour with a stress fracture of the ankle. Their No 2, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, dropped out earlier this week when it was confirmed that he would need groin surgery. And the No 3, Mohammad Asif, joined them yesterday, after failing to pass a fitness test on his sore elbow.

"We are pretty much down to the bare minimum," their coach, Bob Woolmer, said. "But there is no doubt that they are all fighters: it doesn't matter which team goes out there, they'll still fight all the way. Inzamam is a very respected captain and he has the players right behind him."

With hot weather forecast for the next few days, the prospects for Pakistan's bowlers do not look rosy.

Normally you would back their pair of leg-spinners - Danish Kaneria and Shahid Afridi - to come into their own as the pitch breaks up. But Lord's is not like other grounds: the pitch here often plays better as the game goes on, and slow bowlers rate it as their least favourite venue in England.

That puts the emphasis on the seamers - the relatively unthreatening trio of Umar Gul, Mohammad Sami and Abdul Razzaq.

Of these, Gul is tall and skinny - Peshawar's answer to Steve Watkin but with an extra yard of pace. Sami is pacy but skiddy, which makes him prone to skidding all the way to the boundary if he gets his lengths wrong. Razzaq is no more than a support seamer, an all-rounder who averages two wickets per Test.

In his first Test as captain, Andrew Strauss must be desperate to win an important toss. The pitch is flat and hard and, if England bat first, another run fest could be on the cards, on a par with the one they produced against Sri Lanka two months ago.

What they could do with avoiding is a repetition of the catching errors that they committed in that match.

As Woolmer said yesterday: "It would be very generous of England if they dropped as many catches against us. I don't think it's ever been great catching at the Nursery End, when you're looking into the Pavilion. Glass and people get in the way, and then it's downhill because of the slope. My theory is you don't see the ball very well."

Pakistan's batsmen are not as badly afflicted as the bowlers, but Shoaib Malik - an opener and off-spinner - will probably be ruled out unless his elbow problem clears up overnight.

The middle order is the heart of the team, with Younis Khan, Mohammad Yousuf and Inzamam-ul-Haq all ranked in the top 10.

Once the opposition have disposed of that adhesive trio, their bowlers are usually so tired that Afridi can come in and wreak merry hell.

Kamran Akmal, the wicketkeeper, is also capable of blistering strokeplay, as he proved by scoring consecutive one-day centuries against England last winter.

The Lord's effect, which always used to inspire visiting teams, was not much help to Pakistan on their last visit. They went down in 2001 by an innings, as Darren Gough and Andrew Caddick took eight wickets each. But England will not be fielding such a settled new-ball attack this time, particularly if Matthew Hoggard succumbs to the stud marks in his palm.

Woolmer, for one, is hoping the occasion will help lift his tourists. "It will be wonderful for these young guys to play at Lord's," he said. "I made my debut at Lord's in 1975, so I know what an occasion it is when you first come here. It is just a fantastic place to play cricket."

MIG
13th July 2006, 06:19
Btw ,above article fails to mention Nasser Husseins memories from the last LORDS match - broken fingers from a nasty Akhtar delivery !

Nauman
13th July 2006, 06:21
So no Younis Khan, no Malik, no Asif, no Shoib, no Rana is there anyone else missing?

MIG
13th July 2006, 06:22
Some more reading from the Guardian:


Fragile England hope recovering Hoggard can stop the rot

Mike Selvey at Lord's
Thursday July 13, 2006
The Guardian


With half an eye on next winter and the other half on last summer, it is little wonder much of England's cricket over the past eight months has lacked focus. Injuries count for much, rendering premature panic and pessimism for the future, but there is no avoiding the fact that, of England's last three Test series, that against Sri Lanka was drawn when it should have been won by a distance, the one in India before that was drawn also but commendably and the first of the winter, in Pakistan, was lost comfortably after the home side turned the tables and took the first match when to all intents and purposes it had been lost.

Article continues

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What precisely had England learned about Pakistan from that series Andrew Strauss, the 77th and latest to captain England, was asked yesterday, the eve of the first Test at Lord's. "Their unpredictability," came the swift response. "You cannot take your eyes off them for a moment." Like Inspector Clouseau, England should always expect the unexpected.
Pakistan are back in England and with an enviable record in recent times which has seen them usurp England's second place in the Test match rankings. A team of mavericks seems settled under Bob Woolmer's coaching regime and the captaincy of Inzamam-ul-Haq. Until 1987, when they took a five-match series 1-0, they had never won a series in England. Since then they have not lost here. They are the only side not to have done so in the last decade.

Now, with the promise of pristine weather and with a side chock full of talent, some of it admittedly mercurial, they have a real chance of extending that run against an England side that, having become bogged down, is finding it increasingly hard to clamber out of the mud. If winning is a habit, then so too is losing - or at least not winning - especially when, as with Strauss, the formative Test years were spent in and around a side that carried all before it.

So for England these coming four Tests are about regaining composure, refocusing, not getting ahead of themselves and, in the oft repeated words of Duncan Fletcher, holding their hands up and coming to the party. This is not an England side filled with novices. Marcus Trescothick, Strauss himself, Geraint Jones, Steve Harmison and, if the hyperbaric chamber has done its job, Matthew Hoggard - form a well-versed nucleus while Kevin Pietersen and Paul Collingwood seem like old hands now.

How the senior players respond could determine how England play. Yesterday Strauss came as close as he could to saying he felt let down by their overall response in the recent disastrous one-day whitewash by Sri Lanka. But Collingwood says there is a vibrancy in the Test match dressing room that is different from that of the one-dayers. England have always been more at home in the Test arena.

The injury to the indefatigable Hoggard has come as a particular blow because his reliability day in and day out, especially with the new ball, at which art he has become a world leader, cannot be readily replaced. He carried an optimistic air yesterday, bowling in the nets, doing some batting and catching a few skiers. With a day to go, his chances of playing appeared to have increased, although it would carry the risk that a blow on the heel of his right hand, where Tim Bresnan's boot caused a laceration, could reopen the wound.

Certainly Strauss was making encouraging noises. Hoggard's absence, though, would leave Harmison, a lacklustre figure this summer, to carry the brunt of the attack on a ground on which he has rarely thrived, such is the effect of the Lord's slope on his action.

Should Hoggard not play, Jon Lewis, as a like-for-like swing bowling replacement, will gain his second cap although, given the fine weather forecast and the way overhead conditions tend to dictate any movement with the ball (clear blue sky and a warm sun to burn off any residual moisture is not what bowlers wish to see at Lord's), he should not expect the sort of erratic swing and seam that Sri Lanka encountered. At least he should bowl straight - a welcome novelty after England's one-day scattershot display - and all the bowlers will hope for better support from the fielders, given that England dropped nine catches here in May.

Pakistan have a weakness - and therefore indecision in their selection - at the top of the order and will be missing the unmatched pace of Shoaib Akhtar and the clever swing of Naved-ul-Hasan. But the middle order of Younis Khan, Inzamam and Mohammad Yousuf is tremendous - as good as it gets - and, with the prospect of Shahid Afridi (whose leg-spin should not be discounted), the brilliant wicket-keeper batsman Kamran Akmal and perhaps the all-rounder Abdul Razzaq as the third seamer instead of Umar Gul, they should not go short of runs.

Early injury scares to the seamers Mohammad Asif, who bowled so well against England in Pakistan, and Mohammad Sami appear to have dissipated. Danish Kaneria, while not yet carrying the aura of his compatriot Mushtaq Ahmed, could prove a handful on a wearing pitch.

The surface in question was under wraps yesterday in order to prevent the sun from drying it out. But it should play much as did that against Sri Lanka, which had excellent carry for the pacemen but failed to deteriorate as much as might have been hoped, helping Sri Lanka to bat out the draw. Any green tinge apparent first thing will have gone by mid-morning, leaving batsmen salivating. The possibility of the sides batting each other into a stupor cannot be discounted.

Pitch watch

The surface for the Sri Lanka Test in May stood up well and this promises to be similar, with good pace and bounce. There is an even covering of grass, which was awaiting its final brush and cut this morning.

Given the good weather forecast, teams should want to win the toss and bat

Weather Dry, plenty of sunshine

Temperature 24C

Relative humidity 33%

England (from) Strauss (Middlesex, capt), Trescothick (Somerset), Cook (Essex), Pietersen (Hampshire), Collingwood (Durham), Bell (Warwickshire), Jones (Kent, wkt), Plunkett (Durham), Hoggard (Yorkshire), Harmison (Durham), Panesar (Northamptonshire), Mahmood (Lancashire), Lewis (Gloucestershire)

Pakistan (from) Inzamam- ul-Haq (capt), Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat, Younis Khan, Mohammad Yousuf, Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Sami, Danish Kaneria, Umar Gul, Salman Butt, Faisal Iqbal.

Umpires S Bucknor (West Indies) & S Taufel (Australia)

Match referee R Madugalle (Sri Lanka)

Mercenary
13th July 2006, 08:46
Let the discussion begin...

Easa
13th July 2006, 08:47
Well done Easa for beating everyone to this thread - 2 PakPassion cookies can now be found in your IE Cache !!

Rest of ya chalaak people: Hold fire until say an hour before start - pls.

:|

No comment.

Starts in about an hour, can't wait. :d

MIG
13th July 2006, 08:48
The last defeat at Lords against England with a full complement of Shoaib/Wasim etc still hurts so hope we can turn it around this time - although Pak are known for bad starts.

zushy_786
13th July 2006, 08:52
Lets hope there aren't any 'Best gets hungry and smells blood' or 'Afridi for 200 runs and 10 wicket' threads...

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 08:53
SS NEWS

Weather Forecast

Cloudy/Sunny

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 08:53
SS coveragre 5 mins away Woo!

UJ
13th July 2006, 08:54
Any final updates on Malik?

MIG
13th July 2006, 08:55
Hafridi - is ti possible to reduce your sig to something on one line or Not bold? Just for the duration of this match pls ? or turn off sig for the next 5 days ?

Shayan
13th July 2006, 08:57
I think it's likely that the team winning the toss will bat first, despite the overcast conditions. The forecast said it would brighten up later.

Billy
13th July 2006, 09:01
Pakistan to win thanks to Kaneria even if they do collapse first up. England to regroup at Old Trafford when Super Fred™ reappears.

Afridi to hit 31 off 14 balls before swinging too hard and knocking out his own stumps.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:07
oooo, David Lloyd just said there's been a bit of a problem between the players, England wouldn't let Pakistan bowl on the practice wicket, and told them to go off somewhere else

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:07
Malik's out whoever asked that and MIG sorry i cant

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:08
OK - cue riot....

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:09
Malik's out whoever asked that and MIG sorry i cant

Then using the powers of MOD, invested in me by the state of PPabad.... :D Chotay Bhai , karday yaar - aankhen dard kar raheen hain ?

z10
13th July 2006, 09:10
afridi for a double century

sam
13th July 2006, 09:12
Cricinfo update:

It's looking like Hoggard will be playing. But, more excitingly, is the news that there was a bit of a stand-off between the two camps. Pakistan wanted to bowl on the same strip England's bowlers were practising on...and they were told to clear off, in no uncertain terms. No evidence of any fist-fights or Zidane moments yet.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:13
It seems as though Pakistan and England have had a slight argument about the practice pitch, just heard bumble say that...

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:14
Then using the powers of MOD, invested in me by the state of PPabad.... :D Chotay Bhai , karday yaar - aankhen dard kar raheen hain ?

hehe, okie doke

btw Botham rambling on about monty how hes engs best spinner since blah blah

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:15
hehe, okie doke

btw Botham rambling on about monty how hes engs best spinner since blah blah


he's right though.

sam
13th July 2006, 09:15
Any updates on YK?

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:16
he's right though.

er yeah he is but he never stops, ok mate u mentioned it once, but constant blah blah..gets to my ears not sure about u

zushy_786
13th July 2006, 09:17
afridi for a double century

nahieeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnn

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:18
Z knows what he's talking about !

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:20
afridi for a double century

:D:D:D

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:20
toss should be happening in about 10 minutes or so.

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:21
Good man Hafridi !

Ok from the Independent online, danger men from Pak:


Three Pakistani dangermen likely to pose greatest threat to England's chances in series

Shahid Afridi

With Shoaib Akhtar injured, Afridi, 26, is the man to watch. The attacking all-roundergrabbed the headlines in November when he scuffed up the pitch in Faisalabad. Andrew Flintoff and Kevin Pietersen are Sunday drivers compared to Afridi, who has a strike-rate - runs per 100 balls - of 86 in Tests and 108 in one-dayers. He also bowls more than useful leg-spin

Danish Kaneria

Kaneria's leg-spin is not yet in the league of Shane Warne or Anil Kumble but he is not far behind, averaging four and a half wickets a Test. The 25-year-old has developed consistency and accuracy during two stints with Essex. Height and high action gets him bounce and he bowls a great googly

Kamran Akmal

The presence of Akmal will do little to ease the pressure on England's gloveman Geraint Jones. The Pakistan keeper is a gifted cricketer who has already posted seven international hundreds. Three of these were scored in four innings against England before Christmas


Excellent article, read it at:
http://sport.independent.co.uk/cricket/article1174027.ece

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:23
haha! love the sunday drivers comment!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:24
Hoggard's been passed fit - here is the England team. News of Pakistan to follow.

1 Marcus Trescothick, 2 Andrew Strauss (capt), 3 Alastair Cook, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Paul Collingwood, 6 Ian Bell, 7 Geraint Jones (wk), 8 Liam Plunkett, 9 Matthew Hoggard, 10 Steve Harmison, 11 Monty Panesar

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:27
Cmon Pak - The Nation ( not the newspaper ) expects

I hereby forecast a fighting 100 from Akmal.

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:27
Hoggard and Harmison opening the bowling - our openers will do well inshallah.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:28
a bit annoying how Sky Sports haven't mentioned the Pakistan team at all yet!

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:29
Have a feeling Inzi will score a 100 if we bat first.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:30
England have won the toss and will bat!!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:30
England win the toss, and bat.

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:31
eng bat!!!

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:31
cmmon sami! all on u now!!

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:31
Theres a cloud cover so hopefully the boys can pick up 3/4 early wickets inthe first session.

sam
13th July 2006, 09:32
The Pak team hasn't been anounced as yet?

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:32
Yk and malik are not playing!!!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:32
no YK

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:33
Big blow the loss of both Shoaib Malik and Younis Khan

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:33
Pak team:
Farhat, Butt, Iqbal,Inzi, MY, Afridi, Razzaq, Akmal, Sami, Gul, Kaneria

sam
13th July 2006, 09:34
Amazing! So many injuries and the team doesn't look crap. :D

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:35
Rameez!!

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:35
Ramiz has made the trip to sky...

Billy
13th July 2006, 09:36
I like his hair.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:36
I like his hair.


:D

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:37
Faisal Iqbal at 3, I hope Inzi and Yousuf don't have to come in at 10-3!

kayanni
13th July 2006, 09:37
am at work - no YK then?

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:38
C'mon Sami, Gul!

m_sohail
13th July 2006, 09:38
Who are the pace bowlers? Sami/Gul/Razzak?

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:38
Younis Khan, Shoaib Malik, Shoaib Akhtar, Rana Naved, Mohammad Asif all out.

Billy
13th July 2006, 09:39
Faisal Iqbal at 3, I hope Inzi and Yousuf don't have to come in at 10-3!

Well if the pitch plays anything like it did last summer then both teams might end up with a score like that.

sam
13th July 2006, 09:40
Although England have won the toss and chosen to bat, it's decidedly muggy and cloudy at Lord's.

Let's hope Pak get a few wickets quickly...

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 09:40
I think it would be better to slot Faisal between Inzi and Yousaf.

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:40
Ok guys for the benefit of those not watching this live, pls post score updates as often as possible - thanks

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:42
Oh yes afridi and Faisal both playing, greaaaaat! shame for Yk though

Come on Sami!!

Pakistani tigers
13th July 2006, 09:42
i like ppl posting scores but sometimes it is quite repetitive...it would be better to nominate two or three ppl to commentate for 15 mins slots..a bit like real commentary from cricinfo...my two cents

Osman
13th July 2006, 09:42
apparently the pitch is an absolute belter !!!

Billy
13th July 2006, 09:43
apparently the pitch is an absolute belter !!!

10/3

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:44
Sami/Afridi's day, come on !

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:44
Not wanting to ruin this thread but just wanted everyone to know that I passed all my exams that I took and so have passed my first year at uni!!!!

Come on Pakistan!!!!!

HAFRIDI
13th July 2006, 09:44
Not wanting to ruin this thread but just wanted everyone to know that I passed all my exams that I took and so have passed my first year at uni!!!!

Come on Pakistan!!!!!

woooooooo

Congrats!!!!!!!! :14: :14: :19: :14:

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:45
i like ppl posting scores but sometimes it is quite repetitive...it would be better to nominate two or three ppl to commentate for 15 mins slots..a bit like real commentary from cricinfo...my two cents


Ok sure - whatever is easy for people but just remember its frustrating for someone not watching this live on TV if all you read is "wow - is that out ?" or something like that

sam
13th July 2006, 09:45
Congrats, Raz. :D

MIG
13th July 2006, 09:46
MOM = Raz !!! Well done

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:47
Not wanting to ruin this thread but just wanted everyone to know that I passed all my exams that I took and so have passed my first year at uni!!!!

Come on Pakistan!!!!!

Congratulations. :D

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:49
MIG, Foxsports are showing some nascar racing. Pak/Eng? :(

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:51
Just showing some great highlights from the last Pak-Eng series from last winter.

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:51
Rameez's hair looks terrible.

zMario
13th July 2006, 09:54
MIG, Foxsports are showing some nascar racing. Pak/Eng? :(
Try ESPN or Star Sports Easa

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:54
Just a reminder of the teams:

Pakistan:

Salman Butt, Imran Farhat, Faisal Iqbal, Inzamam-Ul-Haq, Mohammad Yousuf, Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Sami, Umar Gul, Danish Kaneria

England:

Trescothick, Strauss, Cook, Pieterson, Collingwood, Bell, Jones, Plunkett, Hoggard, Harmison, Panesar

IMMY69
13th July 2006, 09:55
wicket has some live grass and although atherton said it will be pure batting wicket...ian botham of all people said he thinks differently and there will be movement early on...

its hars and grassy so will definitely have good pace and bounce...

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:56
wicket has some live grass and although atherton said it will be pure batting wicket...ian botham of all people said he thinks differently and there will be movement early on...

its hars and grassy so will definitely have good pace and bounce...

If the conditions do suit the bowlers a bit, its a good chance for Sami and Gul to showcase their talents.

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:57
Steve Bucknor and Simon Taufel are the 2 umpires, they are coming out now.

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:57
Try ESPN or Star Sports Easa

YES! COMING NOW. :D

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:58
steve bucknor and simon taufel are umpiring

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:58
English batsmen coming out now,

Pakistan already out.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:58
here we go!!

mulan
13th July 2006, 09:58
I think we need a new "updates" thread...game hasn't started yet, and already 2 pages...

anyhow, congrats Raz!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:59
sami to start

Easa
13th July 2006, 09:59
Sami to bowl the first over.

UJ
13th July 2006, 09:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm

for anyone not watching live

Raz
13th July 2006, 09:59
Sami to open the bowling

Shayan
13th July 2006, 09:59
first ball, bit of swing, but down leg side

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:00
Sami to open the bowling to Tresco

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:00
1st bal down the legside.. Sami coming of a short runup!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:00
ooo, 2nd ball, left by tres , good leave, goes over stumps

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:00
Excellent delivery 2nd ball!! Nipped back in to Tresco

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:00
There's no speed gun result for the first couple of deliveries

MIG
13th July 2006, 10:01
YES! COMING NOW. :D


It says 13:56 UAE time every day

Blistering Barnacle
13th July 2006, 10:01
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm

for anyone not watching live

:19:

Thanks.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:01
Sami is just running up gently to the crease. No explosive burst.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:01
Sami glaring at Tresco. :D

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:02
first no ball, england off the mark

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:02
4 to tres, short ball, guided past slips, 5-0

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:02
4444

Down to 3rd man.

Team Slayer
13th July 2006, 10:03
sami! :@

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:03
another 4, driven through the covers, 9-0

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:03
9-0 off 1 ovs

good start by england

Team Slayer
13th July 2006, 10:03
argh! another!

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:03
4444

Superbly played.

Billy
13th July 2006, 10:04
Sami's hair... :'(

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:04
9 off the first over, i reckon Gul could e effective here, use the slope like McGrath did, get the ball moving away from the left handers

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:04
excellent first ball, jagged away off the seam.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:05
I want Sami out of the attack now. 9 Runs Off The FIRST over

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:06
very wide ball by Gul, missed by Akmal, 5 wides.

nadeem
13th July 2006, 10:06
Guys, how fast is sami bowling?

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:06
Very wide.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:06
14-0

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:07
Business for Sami as usual, I told you people that he wouldnt be any different.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:07
This is humpty dumpty bowling yaaar

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:07
Apparently, there's no speed gun.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:07
decent over so far, apart from the one exception

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:08
Gul bowling a good over so far except for the 5 wides.

14-0 (1.4)

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:08
Business for Sami as usual, I told you people that he wouldnt be any different.


he's had one over, lets wait a bit before we get the knives out

MIG
13th July 2006, 10:08
Relax - just the first over... a whole days play is remaining.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:08
14-0, good over from Gul, last ball jagged back in.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:09
Good over by Gul

14-0 off 2 ovs

Sid100
13th July 2006, 10:09
thats a bit harsh zmario give him a chance

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:09
Very well bowled, Umar Gul.

14-0 after 2 overs.

Oxy
13th July 2006, 10:09
7 Pak players making their debut at Lords - that is a problem for Pak, so lets not be too harsh early on wth our inexperienced line-up.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:09
Relax - just the first over... a whole days play is remaining.
Exactly, so we gotta get Sami out of the attack NOW

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:10
Sami has already had way too many chances.

Imran_The Man!
13th July 2006, 10:10
Well here we go , 1st day of the test match and the series. Come on Pakistan!
14-0.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:10
86.2 mph for sami's first ball in his 2nd over

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:10
Sami - 86.2 MPH

There is a speed gun.

Oxy
13th July 2006, 10:10
I want Sami out of the attack now. 9 Runs Off The FIRST over

Only 89 overs left in the day....

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:10
87.3 mph for Sami

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:10
87.3, well bowled.

Oxy
13th July 2006, 10:11
Exactly, so we gotta get Sami out of the attack NOW
I do collect such quotes....

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:11
better 2nd over so far from Sami

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:12
Oxy, you must be one of the "Sami will own" people.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:12
Well bowled, jagged back, Decent pace, 87 mph.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:13
Samis top speed in that over was 87.4mph

Cranking it up nicely.

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:13
14-0 after 3

Maiden from Sami that last over

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:13
MAIDEN from Sami.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:13
better 2nd over so far from Sami
He is bowling on the legs its the batsman who is to be blamed for not hitting them for boundaries.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:13
:))) Sami got a maiden.

If he bowls 3 or 4 more tight overs, maybe he will get a wicket!

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:14
84.3mph from Gul

Team Slayer
13th July 2006, 10:14
Guys, how fast is sami bowling?

9 runs/over.

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:14
Ball goes past Strauss's outside edge, well bowled Gul

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:15
4 to strauss. 18-0

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:15
Oi yaaaar, good ball from Gul!

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:15
4 by Strauss, Gul joining Sami in run giving party.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:15
18-0

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:16
I go back to what I said, this is humpty dumpty bowling

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:16
gul bowling too short, he needs to pitch it up further...

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:16
Holding says: Both M.Sami and Gul giving the batsmen too many sighters and I couldnt agree more.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:17
meh followed by a no ball

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:17
22-0

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:17
22-0 after 4

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:18
Flicked away, 3 runs.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:19
Yaar, it na humpty dumpty bowling kar ra ha.

If we had Asif or Shoaib or Rana...

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:19
Another wide crappy delivery from Sami.

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:20
Full ball, edge from Strauss and went through 3rd slip that was removed by Inzi.

Sami unlucky again!!

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:20
let off for england no 3rd slip!!!

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:21
KIS KI SUM BOWLING TA!!!

Edged, and no man :(

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:21
I honestly dont blame Inzi here, had the bowlers been any decent I am sure he would have had 3 slips.

UJ
13th July 2006, 10:22
30/0

4 to strauss through the covers

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:22
Full ball, edge from Strauss and went through 3rd slip that was removed by Inzi.

Sami unlucky again!!
Not unlucky it was Sami's crappy bowling early on which forced Inzi to take out the third slip.

slix10
13th July 2006, 10:22
Damn. Really missing Asif/Shoaib/Rana here.

Sultan Yusuf
13th July 2006, 10:22
Well done mota!

UsmanhailsAfridi
13th July 2006, 10:23
when is kaneria coming on

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:23
I honestly dont blame Inzi here, had the bowlers been any decent I am sure he would have had 3 slips.

That is ridiculous and you know it.

Inzi was the one to blame, no one else. Sami did what he had to do, he got the brought the edge but Inzi's removal of the 3rd slip meant he didnt get a wicket.

Jedi Knight
13th July 2006, 10:23
It could be a long, long day.

hassan_21
13th July 2006, 10:24
Well done mota!

Ops please take notice of this.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:24
That is ridiculous and you know it.

Inzi was the one to blame, no one else. Sami did what he had to do, he got the brought the edge but Inzi's removal of the 3rd slip meant he didnt get a wicket.
Captain needs to have confidence in his bowlers that they will consistently bowl at one spot to get the edge when you have crappy bowlers like Sami and Gul bowling all over the place how do you expect the captain to set an attacking field?

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:24
Not unlucky it was Sami's crappy bowling early on which forced Inzi to take out the third slip.

He bowled 1 bad delivery that was too full apart from that the other boundary was a risky shot, and apart from that he has bowled well. Please look at things with hindsight instead of looking at with your hatred of Sami in mind.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:25
Kaneria being wasted at midon, there should be a man on the drive imo.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:25
England going at 7 runs per over.

UJ
13th July 2006, 10:26
Strauss gets 4 to square leg

39/0

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:26
Oi yaaaaar this is terrible, so expensive now

hassan_21
13th July 2006, 10:26
Holding crapping his pants yet again. beginning to sound like the acc he is becoming in this late age. harping on and on about Kaneria being at mid on. where would you have him, in third slip or short cover? good luck with him taking any catches there. he's more likely to split his webbing. its somethine we just have to deal with!

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:26
He bowled 1 bad delivery that was too full apart from that the other boundary was a risky shot, and apart from that he has bowled well. Please look at things with hindsight instead of looking at with your hatred of Sami in mind.
You should look at how crappy Sami is before looking at your undying love for Sami.

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:26
Captain needs to have confidence in his bowlers that they will consistently bowl at one spot to get the edge when you have crappy bowlers like Sami and Gul bowling all over the place how do you expect the captain to set an attacking field?

He put in a short extra cover, which wasnt the problem but he should not have had the mid on there as Holding has been saying. Instead of that fielder a 3rd slip should have been there.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:26
Smashed away

Poor, poor bowling.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:26
boundaries aplenty

PlanetPakistan
13th July 2006, 10:26
Let's be patient! I hope U Gul and M Sami keep their heads!

ahh another 4!

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:26
43-0

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:27
Strauss and Trescothick would never have faced suck crappy bowlers before in their career.

the_game
13th July 2006, 10:27
This pace attack seems so toothless. Kinda sad, really.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:27
WHAT KIND OF HUMPTY DUMPTY BOWLING IS THIS

UNKA RUN RATE DEKHO!

Sigh.

Raz
13th July 2006, 10:27
44-0 after 6

slix10
13th July 2006, 10:27
Good heavens.

Put on Afridi. :P

UsmanhailsAfridi
13th July 2006, 10:28
dude where is gul pitching the ball....does he know how to bowl with new ball....kya ho raha hai...aaree yeh kya ho raha hai

Blistering Barnacle
13th July 2006, 10:28
Looks like the bowlers are getting strauss back into form.

wazim87
13th July 2006, 10:28
ESPN aint showing in Pak? Anyone have any info
PTV aint either. odd

PlanetPakistan
13th July 2006, 10:28
Is that Rameez Raja on test match special?

Blistering Barnacle
13th July 2006, 10:28
Get Razzaq on I guess.

UJ
13th July 2006, 10:28
Just seems like Sami and Gul are a little nervous...

This is now quite a good start for England

Bailan
13th July 2006, 10:29
The Wrist Slitting Brigade is here ....





*aside: England riding their luck, sooner or later it will run out

Pakistani tigers
13th July 2006, 10:29
It is the Lord's wiclet as well which makes the new bowlers struggle...be patient...inshallah wicket coming soon.

slix10
13th July 2006, 10:29
Just seems like Sami and Gul are a little nervous...

This is now quite a good start for England

Either too nervous or too confident.

Sultan Yusuf
13th July 2006, 10:30
So much for our "saviour" gul!

Bailan
13th July 2006, 10:30
Why are they discussing the gread andrew caddick? i am sure there are better bowlers around to pull from the past....

the_game
13th July 2006, 10:31
The Wrist Slitting Brigade is here ....





*aside: England riding their luck, sooner or later it will run out

Nobody slitting wrists yaara. Sami looks his usual self (which is crap), but Gul needs to tighten up.

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:31
ESPN aint showing in Pak? Anyone have any info
PTV aint either. odd
ESPN aren't allowed to show - Ramiz Raja is commentating, who is a part of Ten Sports network.

:)))

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:31
Gul's 3 overs have cost him 23 runs.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:32
ESPN aint showing in Pak? Anyone have any info
PTV aint either. odd
PTV World is, one of Super Sports is I dont know which one and Ten Sports is also showing it, I am watching it on Ten Sports.

hassan_21
13th July 2006, 10:32
So much for our "saviour" gul!

dont your insides burn with all that negativity? maybe you should try getting some fresh air or sunlight every once in a while.

majalani
13th July 2006, 10:32
I don't think Gul has bowled at Lords before, so he might be struggling with the slope.

the_game
13th July 2006, 10:33
dont your insides burn with all that negativity? maybe you should try getting some fresh air or sunlight every once in a while.

:))

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:33
Why is Gul still bowling?

inzibhai
13th July 2006, 10:33
good confi start by eng...a player like Andrew S is going at above 100 sr...itnay buray din aa gaye hain hum logo kay...

Amir
13th July 2006, 10:34
God help us, Botham is commentating!

wazim87
13th July 2006, 10:34
Yea I got TEN, but the ESPN schedule has it down as LIVE, very odd

Blistering Barnacle
13th July 2006, 10:34
Hmm. Wonder if Waqar has made any difference being the bowling coach for these guys. I'm sure Waqar of the 2001-2003 period would be getting smacked around too.

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:34
Well bowled, play and miss.

in_cutter
13th July 2006, 10:34
My, Eng going along nicely

shan
13th July 2006, 10:35
hadh hoti hain baqwas bowling ki

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:35
Wow, beats outside edge.

Why can't we get the outside edge :(

banana_246
13th July 2006, 10:35
WOW, Pakistan is getting murdered

hassan_21
13th July 2006, 10:35
Hmm. Wonder if Waqar has made any difference being the bowling coach for these guys. I'm sure Waqar of the 2001-2003 period would be getting smacked around too.

I think youve hit the nail right on the head. its all Wiki's fault. lets all stone his house in Pak. better yet, who has the number of the effigie maker?

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:35
49-0

Blistering Barnacle
13th July 2006, 10:35
I'm not watching but it sounds like there is some assistance for bowlers if they get it in the right place.

Saqib
13th July 2006, 10:36
You can expect on this pitch, and also we don't have a good strike bowler who can make early inroad or take 1 or 2 wickets. We realy needed Rana or Shoaib here.

the_game
13th July 2006, 10:37
I'm not watching but it sounds like there is some assistance for bowlers if they get it in the right place.

Yeah there is, but Gul and Sami are both trying to be fancy and Strauss and Tresco are leaving the good balls easily.

UJ
13th July 2006, 10:37
Tresco through the covers

52/0

RX
13th July 2006, 10:37
someone please give me a video link!!!

Amir
13th July 2006, 10:38
Lets hope this is Razzaq's test! But there is alot of carry, Harmison can be very lethal on this track as long as it stays overcast....if th esun comes out, it is suppos eto bake teh pitch and make it dead.

Nauman
13th July 2006, 10:39
someone please give me a video link!!!
Why would you want to watch Pakistan getting hammered.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:39
54-0

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:40
I think youve hit the nail right on the head. its all Wiki's fault. lets all stone his house in Pak. better yet, who has the number of the effigie maker?

:)))

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:40
55-0 after just 9

RX
13th July 2006, 10:41
Why would you want to watch Pakistan getting hammered.

haha but it doesn't matter
so please someone give me a video link PLEASE!!!!!

zMario
13th July 2006, 10:41
*Looks up in the air, and sighs really loudly, at 4:41 AM local time*

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:41
GUYS, don't give up so easily, the first session is not even over yet!

PlanetPakistan
13th July 2006, 10:42
Rameez just "left"!

Amir
13th July 2006, 10:42
RX Why dont you go buy one instead of coming in on the morning of the match and pleaing with everyone to give a free link....i hate people like that, woh message me in the morning(not like i know anything)

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:42
haha but it doesn't matter
so please someone give me a video link PLEASE!!!!!


are you willing to pay?

Imran_The Man!
13th July 2006, 10:42
Sami starting to find a decent length, needs to keep it up. Gul looking useful despite a few bad balls.

Pak fielding a pretty inexperienced side for this match, seniors really need to lead the way.

Guys, England looking pretty comfortable so far, but it's, early days yet. Yes we are really missing Rana who would have been a handful on this pitch, but we need to be patient and wickets will come Insh'allah!

55-0

PlanetPakistan
13th July 2006, 10:42
GUYS, don't give up so easily, the first session is not even over yet!
True!
Gul seems to be nervous, i am sure he will bowl better!

Easa
13th July 2006, 10:43
Tresco beaten.

Green-Machine
13th July 2006, 10:43
I'm not going down the road of 'I told u so'. But exactly as I feared. Our bowling is similar in quality to Bangladesh without Rana and Shoaib (and I would say the same if Asif was playing). We have a VERY poor bowling attack. Sami and Gul and Razzak are simply pants.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:43
gul bowling better, 55-0

Bailan
13th July 2006, 10:43
Gul might just be finding some line and lenght here

54/0

iZeeshan
13th July 2006, 10:43
Is Pak bowling really that bad, or is it just a burst from England?

Amir
13th July 2006, 10:44
Green Machine, why dont you just go pray to your Irfan Pathan idol in your house? Yo uare over-reacting. Yes we got a youn gteam but dont even compare us to Bangladesh.

Shayan
13th July 2006, 10:44
I'm not going down the road of 'I told u so'. But exactly as I feared. Our bowling is similar in quality to Bangladesh without Rana and Shoaib (and I would say the same if Asif was playing). We have a VERY poor bowling attack. Sami and Gul and Razzak are simply pants.


well england have done well when conditions favoured the bowlers, and its only gonna get easier to bat.

Fish
13th July 2006, 10:44
9.2 Umar Gul to Trescothick, no run, beautiful delivery, drew Trescothick into a wibbly forward-defensive, moved away. Comprehensively beaten

the_game
13th July 2006, 10:46
I'm not going down the road of 'I told u so'. But exactly as I feared. Our bowling is similar in quality to Bangladesh without Rana and Shoaib (and I would say the same if Asif was playing). We have a VERY poor bowling attack. Sami and Gul and Razzak are simply pants.

Shut up and go to sleep ya pansy.

RX
13th July 2006, 10:46
RX Why dont you go buy one instead of coming in on the morning of the match and pleaing with everyone to give a free link....i hate people like that, woh message me in the morning(not like i know anything)

whats your problem mate. no need to show attitude

and shayan yes i am willing to pay so long as its a reasonable price. do you know any one providing the links?

Pakistani tigers
13th July 2006, 10:46
dont worry guys...lord's pitch is always handful for first timers. they are getting in to grrove. remember a true fan supports the team through thick and thin.

I would bowl sami in shorter bursts but with more pace if i was inzi. we need to scare the english with some quick bouncers and then use slower balls. but sami is not known for slow ball!