Chelsea...

[Assara K]

am geting sick of all this Chelsea and Barca beef can someone please explain?

Are chelsea gettin disqualified????

Rijkaard wants Mourinho punished

Chelsea hit with charges by Uefa
Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard wants Uefa to punish Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho but does not want the Blues thrown out of the Champions League.
Chelsea could face ejection if Uefa find them guilty of making "unfounded allegations" against Rijkaard and referee Anders Frisk at the Nou Camp.

But Rijkaard said: "They shouldn't be forced out as Mourinho's attitude and that of the club are separate issues.

"My objective is that in the future these types of comments are stopped."

Uefa's Control and Disciplinary Body will hear Chelsea's case on 31 March.

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The club, Mourinho, assistant manager Steve Clarke and security official Les Miles will be able to request personal hearings and, if they wish, can choose to be represented by lawyers at the disciplinary meeting in Nyon, Switzerland.

The charges are the culmination of an investigation by Uefa into events at the Nou Camp and Chelsea's subsequent allegations.

Following the match, which Barcelona won 2-1, Mourinho verbally attacked referee Anders Frisk and called for Pierluigi Collina to referee the second leg.

Frisk subsequently announced his retirement following death threats to him and his family.

Chelsea face charges from UEFA.

Punishment can be anything from:

A mere reprimand,
A fine,
A touchline ban,
Reversing of result,
Exclusion of the club from the CL

[adi 101]

i tink its horrible that frisk retired because of getting death threats. Honestly speaking i think chelsea should be disqualified from champions league or docked points in premiership, simply because if they get fined they dont really care cause a few thousand pund fine is the equivalent to pennys to these guys. The only way they understand is being disqualified.

[MIG]

JaRule.....

Chelsea are what we call in Pakistan Charsee....

[Da Sultan of Multan]

chelsea shud be kicked out of the champions league and barcelona should given their place!!!and in the league chelsea should be docked 12points for tapping up ashley cole or 12 points shud be given to arsenal!!!!

Liverpool should be given at least 30 of Chelsea's points in the PL due to the alleged tapping-up of Stevie-G.

This should be the right amount on market value.

A Cole = 12-15 million
Stevie = 30+ million

[Da Sultan of Multan]

nah that's not fair we should het the same amount each 15pts to arsenal and 15pts to liverpool!!!

OK that sounds OK too

[Nawazb]

KICK THEM OUT - for honesty and decency to prevail - kick them out of the CL - only fair - mourinho has committed a form of gross misconduct - now barca dont want to come back in like that - so i guess munchen gety a walkover

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

sorry - the above post was mine - as many would be able to tell, just got home and forgot my brother is logged on!!!


i wouldnt mind barca getting back in this way - or to be fair a rematch

[Assara K]

Yea i reckon there should be a rematch but even so i do feel sorry for Frisk no-one deserves death threats to their family!!

I seriously hate Jose- he's too arrogant and should be punished!!!!

But what he said he'd win for Chelsea he's gonna win!

[Da Sultan of Multan]

ur rite he is arrogant , but he is funny as well!! and if they get kicked out it should be interesting to hear wat he says!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

should be a rematch - like i said - mourinho has committed a form of gross misconduct - he deliberately lied about frisk incident - now uefa should punish chelsea - and after that dodgy incident for last goal - a rematch would be great!!!! make no mistake we will put things right if we got chance and i believe we do

[Jameel]

As much as I'd like Chelsea to be kicked out (just to see the look on the Portugeezer's face) it aint gonna happen. It will be a fine (which of course will really hurt Chelsea) or a reprimand.

[Oxy]

Jose is the best thing that has happened to this stale, unexciting, predicatble Premiership.

Wher the top 3 are good-but 4th place usually finish 25 points off the pace.

I loved it whenMourinho took on Fergeson last year when he was the Porto boss...and beat ManUre at home!

On form-Mourinho is the BEST club manager in the world.

He won the UEFA Cup 2 years ago with Port, then Porto when the Champions League last yera...who knows what this year?

Our game needs charachters-and as someone who has never liked Chelsea, I have a lot of time for the man.

The man takes the heat off his players-all the focus is on Mourinho before big games-lets the players get on with the game.

[Assara K]

i HATE him he think's he's God's gift to mankind.

Realistically they aint gonna get kicked just probably fined!!

I hate the fact that theyre through to the next round of the champions league only because of poor refereeing!

Barca were robbed!!

It's almost certain Chelsea have already won the prem but thats only cos of Man U- fergie messed up the team ie. wrong formation, wrong players!!

Instead of buying international players Man U need to invest in some Eurpoean ones!!

[Amjid Javed]

As much as I'd like Chelsea to be kicked out (just to see the look on the Portugeezer's face) it aint gonna happen. It will be a fine (which of course will really hurt Chelsea) or a reprimand.

a fine? ***... am sure they will struggle to pay that :oD

[Oxy]

Barca were robbed? Maybe...bt Drogba shouldnt have been sent of in the 1st leg.

It happens.

[Assara K]

instead of being fined theyll probably be charged!!

Thats all the prem league ever do

[Assara K]

i have to say i hate abromavich more than jose!

But the WORST is Peter Kenyon!!!!! |-n

The guys a ******* traitor!!!

[Oxy]

...ah Asaar.

You are a ManUre fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jameel]

Kenyon is a SOB. Chelsea are welcome to him. He messed up loads of our deals including Robben and Ronaldinho. I'm glad he left.

[Oxy]

I dont they will be thrown out of The Champions Lg, bt I expect them to be fined for tapping up Asley Coal.

[Assara K]

ya im a Manure fan and thats MAN U to you!!!!!!

Who dya support then oxy bhai???????

[Geordie Ahmed]

I cant believe im reading all this rubbish!

Why should Chelski get kicked out? I dont like them BUT they have done nothing to justify being kicked out of the CL. So somebody made death threats to FRISK, how on earth is that JOSE's fault? he is not the first manager to have accused a Ref of cheating!
Typical man-ure and arsenal fans are jealous of Chelski!

Re. the cole tapping. Tapping has been happening in football for time, all the clubs have been participating in it, so this self rightous attitude is cr@p!

I agree with Oxy, JOSE is brilliant for the Premiership. I was getting bored of the old fogeys Wenger and Fergie who were like and old married couple!

[Assara K]

Am not jealous!!!

I rate chelsea alot, they bought world class players and are now a world class side thanks to jose!!

They have top players kezman, lamps, terry, drogba, duff etc.

They play skilled football and totally deserve winning the prem and why not the champions league??

Its too late for Man U to even come close, and the end of the day mourinho has done his job so well done to him!

[Oxy]

I support my home town team-Cardiff City (19th in the Coca Cola Championship; and Liverpool)

[Assara K]

Good on ya for supportin them - stay true to your roots yea!

Liverpool??????

nooooooooooo! not the scousers- mind you i dont mind gerrard :-D

just out of curiousity what position are they in the prem???

[Oxy]

Liverpool are struggling to get into the 4th spot. We have been 5th or 6th all season.

[Assara K]

i think inshallah liverpool will finish fourth, and bolton probably 5th dont like everton though!!!

i like baros i think his sending off was just out of character- ure playin bolton next innit???

I seriousily DISLIKE Baros.

[Assara K]

kyoooo????

Give your reasons......

BTW i thought you were a liverpool fan??

[Oxy]

Assara-I am doubting that you're a ManUre fan.

No ManUre fan could wish Liverpool luck.

[Assara K]

Its Man U REMEMBER????

Liverpool are safe- theyre no threat to us soo......

[Oxy]

...no, you dont understand the BITTER rivalry between Liverpool and ManUre.

Its hatred.

I would rather see Indian beat Pak than ManUre beat Liverpool.

[Schiller]

that bad oxy?? I thought it was manutd and arsenal

[Oxy]

...Umar (,)...Arsenal v ManUre is a recent phenomanam.

The players hate each...the fans not so much.

With Liverpool v ManUre...its a LOCAL rivalry and the fans REALLY hate each other.

The day my daughter was born, I was at home watching Liverpool v ManUre...1996...and we lost.

First born...or not...was a miserable day for me.

I just dont get as worked up for Pak v Ind.

I am guessing that Assara was born 1989/90...and has only supported ManUre as they had won everything in England since 1992+.

He will be supporting Chelsea next year!

[Assara K]

HE!!!!!!!!!!!! |-n |-n

[Assara K]

Look here oxy, im a desi, mancunian born and bred girl, ok?, to me it is irrelevant whether MAN U win or dont, youre right ive supported them all my life but not for the glory- for the pride!!!

BTW pleeeeease get it in your head im a girl- acha?

[Schiller]

thanks for the clarification oxy, so mutd was not always that good then?

[Geordie Ahmed]

thanks for the clarification oxy, so mutd was not always that good then?

No they wasnt! they won in 92/93 and then won loads after that, which is when their fans started to increase big time!

[Schiller]

so historically which team is considered the best or the greatest...

[Oxy]

Umar.

ManUre hadnt won anything for over 30 years, until they won the Premier League in 1992-93. Prior to that, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton and Nottingham Forest were the dominant teams in Eng/Europe.

Since 92, Only ManUre and Arsenal have won the title more than once.

But Liverpool still remain the ALL time successful team in terms of title wins/European Cups. A proud history.

Basically ManUre fans are having huge trouble accepting that the new kid on the block (Jose Mourinho-Chelsea) is winning all...and ManuRe have spent nearly £90 million ($160 million) on just 3 players---and none of them have anything with ManUre.

I was lucky enugh to go to a Liverpoolv ManUre game in 2001..which we won 2:1...and the ticket is framed on my wall!!!

My other team, Cardiff City are useless...but as Saj will testify, you go and watch your team, even if your the only guy in the stadium!

[Schiller]

well that certainly is interesting, i always thought liverpool was pis.s poor.

[Geordie Ahmed]

so historically which team is considered the best or the greatest...

Gotta be Liverpool though they dont seem to be close to returning to them glory days any time soon!

[Gasherbrum]

i was a big arsenal fan and my bro backed liverpool (something to do with the beatles i think).

yeah, i was really surprised when man u became so big in the late 90s or so.

80s for liverpool, what with aldridge, rush and co. if i recall correctly?

[Oxy]

Liverpool last won the title in 1990.

They have won FA Cups/Charity Shields/UEFA Cups/League Cups regularly, but the Premiership is the one we all aspire to.

They are a pretty inconsistent team at the moment-not quite pi.$$ poor, but not too far off.

Another eg of the hatred tpwards ManUre...Newcastle (Geordie Ahmads team) signed a player about 7 years ago-Alan Sheare for £15million (a record then), but Newcastle paid way overthe odds because ManUre were also interested in him and there was NO way they were going to let them have him.

Basically, everyone hate ManUre...the team...and its fans (who all live in Londoanm Beijing and Bombay)

[Geordie Ahmed]

I hat Manure with a passion, mainly because all 4 of my brothers support them. I love it when we beat them, it is a brilliant feeling

Will never forget when we beat the 5-0 , that was a priceless moment

[Oxy]

Actually, mid 1970s for Liverpool with legendary players like Kevin Keegan, John Toshack. Then 1980s with Kenny Dalgliesh, Ian Rush, Phil Thompson, Mark Lawrenson, Phil Neal, The Kennedys. Finally from 1986 to 1990, with players like John Barnes, Peter Beardsley, John Aldridge.

My 1st Liverpool top was bought in 1983 and my last one was in 1997, when they started being sponsored by Carlsberg, which I refused to wear.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Yeah Oxy i was gutted we were sponsored by Brown Ale cos i cudnt buy any of the tops!

When we signed a deal with NTL i was over the moon BUT that didnt last, fortunately Northern Rock got a big deal with us, so i can buy Newcastke tops for some years to come!

[Gasherbrum]

what do you guys think of ian wright? i thought he was brilliant for arsenal, never quite understood why he didn't play more regularly for england.

[Oxy]

Wright was excellent- I actually rated him and Brighty when they both at Palace-that was some partnership.


Geordie...our 'Carlsberg' deal is so frustrating for so many Muslims who would like to wear the top, but wont.

My 1st top was sponsor free...then Hitachi...then Crown Paints (my fave)..then candy...then CARLSBERG!!!!!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

what do you guys think of ian wright? i thought he was brilliant for arsenal, never quite understood why he didn't play more regularly for england.

I am a massive Ian Wright fan! he was a good footballer and a belter character off the field!
I guess he didnt play as much because Shearer and Sheringham were around

[Geordie Ahmed]

i've seen some Liverpool fans with the Carlsberg ripped off or they cover it up

[w4s1m786]

wright was a legend wicked player the guy was a top predator, defoe is the new ian wright

[Oxy]

...actually GA, Linekar was the main hurdle to Wright...and because Beardsley was the ideal foil for Linekar, Wrigty barely got a look in.

I dont know if you remember Nike's massive poster campaign in 1994 which had billboards with Wright on them and the words 'Gary Who?' ...basically, Wright just didnt cut it and Shearer/Sherrighma came in an did the business.

Cannot stand him as a TV pundit or personality though. A guaranteed 'turn off the TV' in my house.

[Oxy]

Saw Dafoe play for West Ham last season twice at Cardiff (league and Carling Cup).

He got a hatrick and he is the best striker I have seen in the 20 years that I have been going to City.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Im not familiar with the Linekar era, i was mainly referring to the late 90's when the S & S partnership was doing well!

I like Wrighty cos he is an entertainer, he is himself which is a chirpy character who is always up for a laugh!

[w4s1m786]

sir les ferdinand was another top player in his prime sadly when he come to spurs injurys got the better of him, he didnt get much of a chance like ian wright ata internatioal level

[Oxy]

Man, I remember watchin Linekar come to Cardiff City with Leicester!!!

[Oxy]

Sir Les (that was the title of his autobiography???)

Best header-er of the ball Ive seen. When he was at QPR, he could lkeap miles intyo the air.

If I wasnt a Liverpool fan-I would love to be a Newcastle fan.

Im backing hem to win the FACUP and UEFA Cup...howay the lads (in a welsh accent)!

[Geordie Ahmed]

sir les ferdinand was another top player in his prime sadly when he come to spurs injurys got the better of him, he didnt get much of a chance like ian wright ata internatioal level

Sir Les is amazing, Bloody Kenny Dalglish sold him the frickin ahhhhh |-F |-F |-F |-F |-F
anyhow il chanmge topic before i get really angry

Sir Les was an awesome striker and a top top guy! I remember when we signed Shearer and KK asked Ferdy if he would wear 10 so Shearer could wear 9, ferdy was obviously dissapointed BUT he didnt moan about it like todays Prima Donnas, in fact him and Sheare formed a deadly partnership, scoring over 50 goals between them in the season :-)

[Oxy]

In an era of foul mouthed/chav/gypo footballers (Rooney), the last gentleman of the game, Sir Les is still doing the business! I think he is at Reading, still getting goals.

All time good guy for me is Niall Quinn.

[w4s1m786]

we also got another good player of you david ginola what a top player the guys a legend at the lane, no disrespct but robert is a poors version of ginola thats how higly i rate him

well that certainly is interesting, i always thought liverpool was pis.s poor.

How dare you? |-E

Wright was excellent- I actually rated him and Brighty when they both at Palace-that was some partnership.


Geordie...our 'Carlsberg' deal is so frustrating for so many Muslims who would like to wear the top, but wont.

My 1st top was sponsor free...then Hitachi...then Crown Paints (my fave)..then candy...then CARLSBERG!!!!!!

I wear the top as Saj would acknowledge. See nothing wrong with it. Proud to be wearing it

[Geordie Ahmed]

Oxy even tho he was a mackem i always respected Niall Quinn, he was a good guy! He donated his testimonial money to some childrens hospital whilst other richer footballers add more to their back pocket!


Wasim i cudnt agree more about Ginola, he was aboslute brilliant, he was as lazy as they come BUT we geordies cudnt care less cos going forward he was brilliant. Its a shame he only played for France 17 times, i think he had issues with the coach, they blamed him for getting kicked out of a tournament! the same coach had issues with Cantona!

[w4s1m786]

u kno liverpool always for some reason used to be my second team

Sir Les (that was the title of his autobiography???)

Best header-er of the ball Ive seen. When he was at QPR, he could lkeap miles intyo the air.

If I wasnt a Liverpool fan-I would love to be a Newcastle fan.

Im backing hem to win the FACUP and UEFA Cup...howay the lads (in a welsh accent)!

I too am backing the Toon in the FA and UEFA cups

In an era of foul mouthed/chav/gypo footballers (Rooney), the last gentleman of the game, Sir Les is still doing the business! I think he is at Reading, still getting goals.

All time good guy for me is Niall Quinn.

I agree with you there Oxy

[w4s1m786]

ga you know who the coach was? it was gerard houlier the ****** i never liked him when he was incharge of liverpool

I too HATED Gerrard Foolier

[w4s1m786]

i actually want toon to win the ufea cup if spurs if finsih 7 we get in to europe

:oD

Talk about ulterior motives

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i'm lucky as barca dont have a sponsor!!

[Assara K]

BTW who are Barca next playing???

Barca only just managed to beat Deportivo!- Deco has been in poor form all season wouldnt you say dont watch many of their games- im personally waiting for another Barca v Chelsea (which is highly unlikely), Barca v Man U, and Barca v Athletico Madrid- madrid already beating you 2- 0!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

deco has been average alot of the time but has had his inspirational moments as per usual - wouldnt mind him being replaced - i did say at start of season to my mates - we have a better player than him already - RIQUELME who has been superb on loan at villareal - barca have title wrapped up, PLUS HEARD RUMOURS we confirm bosman signing of VAN BOMMEL on sunday - useful holding midfielder so marquez can play centre half - so our defense is strengthened

[Oxy]

WIY...Barca are considering having sponsorship from China next season.

[Jameel]

I cant believe im reading all this rubbish!

Why should Chelski get kicked out? I dont like them BUT they have done nothing to justify being kicked out of the CL. So somebody made death threats to FRISK, how on earth is that JOSE's fault? he is not the first manager to have accused a Ref of cheating!
Typical man-ure and arsenal fans are jealous of Chelski!

Re. the cole tapping. Tapping has been happening in football for time, all the clubs have been participating in it, so this self rightous attitude is cr@p!

I agree with Oxy, JOSE is brilliant for the Premiership. I was getting bored of the old fogeys Wenger and Fergie who were like and old married couple!

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It's not Mourinho's fault that Frisk got death threats.

BUT, if he lied about what happened in Barcalona (as UEFA claim) then that is a disgrace and Chelsea deserve to be punished big time. I don't mind Mourinho whinging too much if what he says is based on FACTS. But if he thinks he can say what he wants just because his team lost, then he's got another thing coming.

A fine will be nothing to Chelsea, so they should be kicked out to teach them a lesson.

BTW, I'm not jealous of Mourinho. He's a tw@t and Fergie will show him whos boss next season. The honeymoon period will be over for Jose by then.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

oxy - barca turned down a £50m sponsorship deal from some austrian casino firm - that was over 3 years - would have been biggest deal in the world surpassing munich who have approx £15m a year from T mobile. I was happy - i wouldnt wear the shirt with gambling logo's on front - so was happy - china is great exposure

[Geordie Ahmed]

Jameel you can say what you want BUT it is jealousy!
Fergie is old twit , JOSE is the man of the moment!

Fergie has tried playing mind games with him BUT what he fails to realise is that JOSE was a Psychology teacher before SBR brought him into Football so Fergie has no chance to match him!

Like Oxy said JOSE is brilliant for the PREM cos i was getting bored of Wnger and Fergie as were the rest of the country!

Re The FRISK situation, UEFA also cleared JOSE for being responsible for that situation!

Jameel you clearly cant take the fact that Chelski have just came and knocked the PREM for 6, they are the dominating team in the League and they have a top manager at the club! a manager who when it comes to mind games can take FERGIE tohe cleaners.
Fergie should stick to taking on ppl like KK

[Assara K]

Chelsea ARE good- just look at the prem table- they deserve to win the league and it would be dissapointing if they didnt-Chelsea beat Barca, Man U and Arsenal whereas Man U couldnt score against pompey and drew!

[flipper]

Like him or not jose has done well at chelsea. He has diverted all the attention onto himself and has taken the pressure off the players.

[Assara K]

yup!- jose is a top manager- if Fergie was to retire, who could replace him?

Before you answer think about ALL the trophies Fergie has won for united he's not that easy to replace innit? ......

[Oxy]

Robben injured again. Chelsea will miss him if he is out of the Champions League games.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

mourinho is a good tactically aware coach and always has contingency plans - sometimes involves using dirty tactics but it works

[Assara K]

yeah he's really clever, whitty and the guys got guts.

One of ma fave managers has to be sam allerdyce....

Wright was excellent- I actually rated him and Brighty when they both at Palace-that was some partnership.


Geordie...our 'Carlsberg' deal is so frustrating for so many Muslims who would like to wear the top, but wont.

My 1st top was sponsor free...then Hitachi...then Crown Paints (my fave)..then candy...then CARLSBERG!!!!!!

Probably the end of Liverpool shirt deal
By Abigail Townsend
27 March 2005


Carlsberg's 12-year sponsorship deal with Liverpool Football Club is on the verge of collapse.

The deal, the longest-running in the Premiership, comes to an end this season. The two parties had been locked in exclusive negotiations to renew the contract, which is thought to be worth around £6m a year.

But sources say the talks have stalled and Liverpool is thought to be close to securing a replacement sponsor.

The stumbling block is believed to have been Liverpool's failure to win major trophies such as the Premiership. Clubs that regularly win high-profile trophies generate more coverage, both at home and aboard, and command much higher prices.

An industry insider said: "It's a difficult club. It's still an expensive brand but they have not won anything." Another added: "I think there are only a few Premiership clubs that can cut it on a global basis, but Liverpool is now on the fringe of that. If you look at what they won in the 20 years before Carlsberg took over as sponsor, you would have thought they would have won a lot more in the subsequent years."

LG is rumoured to be a possible replacement. The South Korean electronics giant is keen to move into football, and has even been considered as a possible sponsor for the new stadium that the club is about to build.

A spokeswoman for Liverpool refused to comment, although she did confirm the club was in talks with "a number of interested parties" about shirt sponsorship. A spokesman for Carlsberg, which has sponsored various European competitions over the last decade, as well as Liverpool, said he could not comment.

An announcement is expected in the next few weeks. Clubs need to secure deals now if they are to produce replica kits in time for the following season.

Others looking at sponsorship include London rivals Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur. Chelsea is in talks with various parties, but speculation is growing that the high price tag, thought to be around £9m a year, is deterring some. The club is also thought to have abandoned a proposal to have unbranded shirts next season to mark its centenary.

Travel group Thomson, meanwhile, has begun talks with Spurs. Its contract ends next season.