Article: D-DAY for Sami

[Noddy]

Today is the day that puts Sami's career into stark perspective as a Test Bowler.

A startling introduction to Test Cricket, being one of a select band that have snapped up hat tricks in both formats of the game and having what most frontline batsmen fear in raw pace generated from a short run, what has gone wrong for the Karachite pacer?

At the cross roads of an early exit in Test Cricket, what one fails to understand is 'what has been the downfall of one of the men who was seen as a ideal partner with Shoaib Akhtar'.

True, he has been the recipient of many dropped catches. Regardless of hearsay and conjuncture, flattery does not deceive with a haul of 68 wickets in 27 Tests, prior to Leeds. The facts dont stack up for a man naturally gifted as a genuine quick bowler in 5 day cricket.

On the flip side, his ODI outings are far more healthy and he should retain his place in that particular side.

Sami has vehement backing from former Pakistan legend, Imran Khan. The great man himself, took time out from political activities to impart some of his knowledge and experiences, however, other seamers have rushed up the rungs in Asif, Rana and to some extent, Gul.

After being dropped from the side in 2006, he went back to his National Bank employers and was deemed the quickest bowler in the Patrons Trophy by many of the top batsmen. He is naturally lithe and fit and his hard work reaped dividends for a deserved recall, despite key injuries to his team mates.

Looking from the outside in, what has been done to coax and nurture the PCB investment?

There doesnt seem to be uniformity from the present bowling coach, communication could be lacking, whatever it is, time is and may have run out for him for the immediate future.

[KaSaNoVa_G]

And thanks to Akmal he aint got the start he needed and that was a wicket straight
away.. luck really has not been with him at all.. this looks like the end of Sami for a very
very longtime unless we have all these players injured again at one time.. inshallah
that wont happen though !

Oh and i still want Sami around for the ODI team.. his a good ODI
bowler still and should be in the Squad for any ODI series we have
coming up after the Endland one even if Asif.. Shoaib.. and Rana are back..

[Oxy]

Well hes hitting 90 mph this morning - just needs to sustain it through a spell.

[Raz]

Well someone said he was bowling express, consistently 90mph+ in the recent Pentangular Cup.

I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.

[Noddy]

'I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.'

I dont think so somehow......Not saying anymore.

[Raz]

'I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.'

I dont think so somehow......Not saying anymore.

I can't see any other reason why his speed has dramtically reduced. In the past, despite the lack of success he still bowled at 90mph. A lot of people have said that he is best utilised as a shock bowler, when told to go flat out and attack the stumps. Obviously someone has not told him to do that.

[Amjid Javed]

Its coaches fault, it waqars fault, its inzis fault, its selectors fault, its fielders fault that sami is averaging almsot 50 after 28 tests.

This guy has been mistreated and is a rare talent. He can bowl 90 mph and thats the be all and end all at this level.

Give sami another 25 tests in a row and am sure he will become a world class star.

[BAADSHAH]

He used to be able to reach 95mph
What has happened to him now?
What's with the big conspiracy theory with why he has reduced his speed?!?!?!?!?
What's the real reason??????????????????

[Noddy]

Ur entitled to your opinion AJ, but sarcasm is not the need of the time.

Its nothing to do with him playing another 25 tests in a row....

You mention some names there that are at fault...The positions we hold are very different in cricket....I know what you dont bhaijan....and thats one thing that I do HAVE....Whether I played 25 Tests or not! :-)

[KA$H]

so wat are you saying Noddy?

has he been given a final ultimatum from the pak set up - that today is do or die - ie be dropped 4ever?

[BAADSHAH]

Ur entitled to your opinion AJ, but sarcasm is not the need of the time.

Its nothing to do with him playing another 25 tests in a row....

You mention some names there that are at fault...The positions we hold are very different in cricket....I know what you dont bhaijan....and thats one thing that I do HAVE....Whether I played 25 Tests or not! :-)

So what is the real reason for his reduction in speed?
If you can't tell us the reason, why not?

[Nauman]

Well he has bowled well today atleast up untill I saw the match, not wathing it right now. He was very unlucky, should have had Trescothick out atleast twice.

[Noddy]

I am not saying anything and havent heard anything...Stop assuming

[PlanetPakistan]

Well he has bowled well today atleast up untill I saw the match, not wathing it right now. He was very unlucky, should have had Trescothick out atleast twice.
ahhh so now some people will just crawl out of their beds, look at the bowling figures and start bashing M Sami......again!

[Amoeba]

ahhh so now some people will just crawl out of their beds, look at the bowling figures and start bashing M Sami......again!

Yes - you know the type - people here were bashing Lee after the Ashes, having not watched a single ball.

[KA$H]

I am not saying anything and havent heard anything...Stop assuming

I really don't understand this post, or this thread for that matter, esp if you're not prepared to clarify queries.

why are you being so reticent?

[Sultan Yusuf]

I think I know exactly what Noddy is saying - it is something I've suspected for some time.

[Sonny]

Sami showed a glimpse of how he can bowl. Today he bowled at a good pace, and a fullish length.

If only it was like that for the whole series.

In the last few matches, I was wondering what happened to Sami's pace, since he didn't look like his former self, but today he showed a bit of the old Sami.

[Serendipity]

I hear what you are saying Noddy!

However, From a slightly stepping back kind of perspective, I vouched for Sami for long saying he needs time and confidence and granted, he has been very unlucky at times, and when on songs can be lethal.

But as straightforward, no nonsense, Geoffrey Boycott, said, Sami is great bowler for bowling 2,3,4 great balls and 2 crap short/long hops bowls outside leg and off stump. He can’t plead inexperience NOW, can he? Confidence has been invested in him for a while. The [problem for me and him is that those 3 good balls are not taking wickets, be it rub of the green or sheer skill? The pitch is Headingly is as close a pitch, as you will get - resembling Pak pitches? Umar Gul is managing is not it?

On the other hand, I do blv that he has not been used correctly, at times, by the Captain, he needs to be all fired up, use shock treatment, if needed, play with vigour and pride, he briefly summoned back against India.

I still think he is a better bowler than he has shown us so far BUT if he does not deliver in this series, I am afraid, the end is nearer than he would like and – for that matter I would like.






Today is the day that puts Sami's career into stark perspective as a Test Bowler.

A startling introduction to Test Cricket, being one of a select band that have snapped up hat tricks in both formats of the game and having what most frontline batsmen fear in raw pace generated from a short run, what has gone wrong for the Karachite pacer?

At the cross roads of an early exit in Test Cricket, what one fails to understand is 'what has been the downfall of one of the men who was seen as a ideal partner with Shoaib Akhtar'.

True, he has been the recipient of many dropped catches. Regardless of hearsay and conjuncture, flattery does not deceive with a haul of 68 wickets in 27 Tests, prior to Leeds. The facts dont stack up for a man naturally gifted as a genuine quick bowler in 5 day cricket.

On the flip side, his ODI outings are far more healthy and he should retain his place in that particular side.

Sami has vehement backing from former Pakistan legend, Imran Khan. The great man himself, took time out from political activities to impart some of his knowledge and experiences, however, other seamers have rushed up the rungs in Asif, Rana and to some extent, Gul.

After being dropped from the side in 2006, he went back to his National Bank employers and was deemed the quickest bowler in the Patrons Trophy by many of the top batsmen. He is naturally lithe and fit and his hard work reaped dividends for a deserved recall, despite key injuries to his team mates.

Looking from the outside in, what has been done to coax and nurture the PCB investment?

There doesnt seem to be uniformity from the present bowling coach, communication could be lacking, whatever it is, time is and may have run out for him for the immediate future.

[in_cutter]

Sami showed a glimpse of how he can bowl. Today he bowled at a good pace, and a fullish length.

If only it was like that for the whole series.

In the last few matches, I was wondering what happened to Sami's pace, since he didn't look like his former self, but today he showed a bit of the old Sami.

Lack of confidence?

[Sultan Yusuf]

I also heard Sami was really angry - reminds me of 2nd innings in Multan. And again, that was also pretty much a "last chance".

My question is, why can't he pick himself up for other innings/matches?

[jackal786]

Whether he bowls 100mph or 80mph he is mediocre 90% of the time. He exhibited his phenomenal talent with a 17 ball over once!! You cannot stop from great bowlers from coming up by dropping catches, asking them to bowl line and length. If they say he should try to bowl line and length that means they were fed up with his "pace theory". They gave him a long rope to do something. He tried everything and exhausted all his options. I do not see him improving any further. Only team that will be happy coz of sami would be opposition team.

[Amoeba]

Sami's problem is one which Boycott has alluded to. He bowls at least one 4 ball - a rank long hop an over. Against Test Class patient batsmen this is more than enough to feast upon. Secondly, a problem for all Pakistani bowlers, is he tends to bowl too short particulary as due to lack of inches he is a skiddy type bowler.

From what I have seen this time around it is no concidence that he is bowling better because he is pitching it up.

As for consistency he needs to concentrate on his line and length firstly otherwise he will continue bowling 1 4 ball per over. Wasim and Waqar, and even Shoaib to a lesser degree could bowl magical wicket taking deliveries - ones which were simply unplayable. Sami, at present doesn't have this in his armoury. Therefore he has to get wickets by creating pressure and drying up the runs.

[KA$H]

I think I know exactly what Noddy is saying - it is something I've suspected for some time.

well please elucidate!

[BAADSHAH]

and still waiting for this mysterious reason...............

[Sultan Yusuf]

well please elucidate!

Let's go by logical deduction.....

Noddy has said Waqar has not told Sami to slow down.

AJ then says:

"Its coaches fault, it waqars fault, its inzis fault, its selectors fault, its fielders fault that sami is averaging almsot 50 after 28 tests.
"

To which Noddy replies:

"You mention some names there that are at fault".

Implying that it is one of their faults - obviously not Waqar's because he has already excluded him.

So it is either the coach, inzi or the selectors.

So, as I have suspected, our beloved duo of FAT and FATTER have told Sami to slow down and concentrate on L&L....which has ultimately led to his sustained decline.

Q.E.D.

[Serendipity]

yeppi!

and you have cracked the DA InzBi code!

[Noddy]

Naved bhai

I havent mentioned anything about Wicky saying anything to him.

If you see my thread on that comment, you will see I have used inverted commas at the start and end of the comment and used it form my friends post previously....

Have a look:


#5 Today, 11:31
Noddy
International Star Debut: Jan 2005
Runs: 5,617

'I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.'

I dont think so somehow......Not saying anymore.

[cavin420]

Noddy bhai, is sami carrying an injury or something which wont is stopping him to bowl at full throttle ?

i have noticed that he has reduced the speed of his sprint considerably, by any chance do you know why ?

[Sultan Yusuf]

Naved bhai

I havent mentioned anything about Wicky saying anything to him.

If you see my thread on that comment, you will see I have used inverted commas at the start and end of the comment and used it form my friends post previously....

Have a look:


#5 Today, 11:31
Noddy
International Star Debut: Jan 2005
Runs: 5,617

'I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.'

I dont think so somehow......Not saying anymore.

Exactly Noddy bhai - that's what I said - that you implied Waqar did NOT tell Sami to slow down.

So, come on give us a hint - it is bob and inzi's plan to get sami to slow down and bowl L&L isn't it?

A simple "Hmmmm" will answer my question! ;-)

[BAADSHAH]

Naved bhai

I havent mentioned anything about Wicky saying anything to him.

If you see my thread on that comment, you will see I have used inverted commas at the start and end of the comment and used it form my friends post previously....

Have a look:


#5 Today, 11:31
Noddy
International Star Debut: Jan 2005
Runs: 5,617

'I think Waqar has told him to concentrate on line and length, which would probably explain his reduction in speed. He has bowled on average in the mid 80's in thsi series so far.'

I dont think so somehow......Not saying anymore.

Noddy bhai

This is starting to get a bit stupid now.
If you know the reason and are prepared to tell us, please do so.
If you know the reason and are NOT preapred to tell us, then why are you carrying on with this...

and Naved bhai said it was Woolmer and Inzi....not 'Wicky'

You seem to be name-dropping and creating conspiracies just because you know something the rest of us don't......STOP MILKING IT

what goes around comes around......

[snazir6]

boys noddy bhais got an oppinnion and he has links to sami..respect his views and read into them what u like...

[BAADSHAH]

everyone has their own opinions
but he isn't giving any at all
he is just fanning the conspiracy theories himself!!!

[Somali Pirate]

i really don't care whether sami has a conspiracy behind him or witchunt...the guy deserves to go

[Noddy]

Atta boy Sam, two wickets in 7 balls..
That helps the average no end !

[Noddy]

I am not fanning anything...Samaj I.
Grow up.

[cavin420]

Atta boy Sam, two wickets in 7 balls..
That helps the average no end !
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[BAADSHAH]

I am not fanning anything...Samaj I.
Grow up.

I support Sami
I am not criticising him

It's obvious you won't tell us anything
So there's no point in carrying on this conversation

Apologies for any offence - none intended

[Noddy]

There are others who read this website, and I dont wish to name them nor get involved in petty arguments..

Read behind the lines sometimes.

Otherwise, I waste my time coming here.....Mein kissi ka naukar ni hu,

[Noddy]

No offence taken either...

[Serendipity]

Noddy, I pray and hope that Sami get another two or three here, it is starting to reverse for him, a little but of old Sami, Come on my man!

Btwn - do you blv in him Noddy if so how do you rate him as objectively as you can?

[Officer Barbrady]

beautiful inswinger just now.

[Adeel786]

Noddy bhai...whats up...Sami is looking awesome today.

[in_cutter]

Noddy bhai...whats up...Sami is looking awesome today.

how about the rest of the days :P

[Schiller]

only 2 wkts ...

[Officer Barbrady]

Kamran dropped a chance off him as well.

Much closer to how he is supposed to bowl. Swing at good pace. Good bowling finally. Wonder if it has anything to do with this being one last opportunity?

[cavin420]

Noddy bhai, i for one really appreciate all the opinions you have to share with all of us, and have great respect for all that you write/post, you are a legend.

[cavin420]

only 2 wkts ...
he bowled his heart out today, you certainly can not blame him today for all his efforts, Great spell SAmi boy, you certainly deserve to hold your heard up high.

[Schiller]

Kamran dropped a chance off him as well.

Much closer to how he is supposed to bowl. Swing at good pace. Good bowling finally. Wonder if it has anything to do with this being one last opportunity?

Im telling you, we will never get rid of this leech.

[Schiller]

he bowled his heart out today, you certainly can not blame him today for all his efforts, Great spell SAmi boy, you certainly deserve to hold your heard up high.

I don't give a rat's a about how he bowled his heart. I could care less. Wkts are all that matter. "He bowled his heart out" is not the cornerstone of every nutritious victory.

[cavin420]

I don't give a rat's a about how he bowled his heart. I could care less. Wkts are all that matter. "He bowled his heart out" is not the cornerstone of every nutritious victory.
he is not the only playing you know, he is meant to be having 10 other players helping him out in the field.........

but anyway sami bowled well, got us 2 crucial wickets , im more then Satisfied with his performance today.

[Sultan Yusuf]

I can understand the frustration schilloo.....

It's unbelievable that it's taken the 2nd innings of the 3rd test for either him or the management to realise that he can only be successful by bowling AS a strike bowler, bit of fire, bit of venom.

The problem is....if he does manage to hold on to his place, will he then revert to bowling like a meek medium pacer for his next few test matches?

[Schiller]

he is not the only playing you know, he is meant to be having 10 other players helping him out in the field.........

but anyway sami bowled well, got us 2 crucial wickets , im more then Satisfied with his performance today.

That is the problem with a lot of us here, easily satisfied when it comes to Sami. What rot.

[Schiller]

I can understand the frustration schilloo.....

It's unbelievable that it's taken the 2nd innings of the 3rd test for either him or the management to realise that he can only be successful by bowling AS a strike bowler, bit of fire, bit of venom.

The problem is....if he does manage to hold on to his place, will he then revert to bowling like a meek medium pacer for his next few test matches?

Exactly, this is a farce. As far as I am concerned, he has taken - 2 wkts!!
All this jazz about bowling his heart is rot. I don't give a damn.

[Hashim]

Well if today was a test for Sami and the selectors were watching him closely than I would say that Sami passed the test, right though late yesterday when him and Gul had a quick burst few overs at the English openers through all of today Sami has bowled well and he has looked dangerous and why.....because he was bowling FAST like the old Sami. He got the ball to swing aswll to combine with his pace and picked up couple of crucial wickets.

Where are all the sami bashers now?

[Schiller]

Right HERE, Darryl.

[in_cutter]

Well if today was a test for Sami and the selectors were watching him closely than I would say that Sami passed the test, right though late yesterday when him and Gul had a quick burst few overs at the English openers through all of today Sami has bowled well and he has looked dangerous and why.....because he was bowling FAST like the old Sami. He got the ball to swing aswll to combine with his pace and picked up couple of crucial wickets.

Where are all the sami bashers now?

WOOOWWWW 2 WKTS :14: :10:

[Amjid Javed]

wow sami has two wkts mubarak ho! world class performance!

[Officer Barbrady]

I mentioned earlier that the one over from Sami yesterday was bowled with some old rhythm. Not surprising that it was followed by a much improved performance.

[Amjid Javed]

Yet another test century for sami, almost bramanesque!

[Nauman]

LOL takes a 3rd lucky wicket. Must say this is the best Sami I have seen since 2004

[Officer Barbrady]

89 miles an hour.

One fellow here was convinced his pace was 'lost' (starts with s..r).

Laughable.

[sharuk]

Shahid Nazir will be selected ahead of Sami and Sami will never play a test for Pakistan again

[Amjid Javed]

oh well i enjoyed samis last test for pakistan!

[Amoeba]

Shahid Nazir will be selected ahead of Sami and Sami will never play a test for Pakistan again

Never say never. Injuries etc.
Look at Farhat - who would think he would pop up again after Australia?
BTW Hoggard averages more than Sami in this series (maybe not after tomorrow unfortunately).

[cavin420]

Shahid Nazir will be selected ahead of Sami and Sami will never play a test for Pakistan again
hope not.

[James]

Well if today was a test for Sami and the selectors were watching him closely than I would say that Sami passed the test, right though late yesterday when him and Gul had a quick burst few overs at the English openers through all of today Sami has bowled well and he has looked dangerous and why.....because he was bowling FAST like the old Sami. He got the ball to swing aswll to combine with his pace and picked up couple of crucial wickets.

Where are all the sami bashers now?

They are right here, a more interesting question would be, where have YOU been for this whole series after predicting prior to the series that we would get destroyed by Sami in every test! He has one ok day and you're back, very convenient!

[Uzzy]

I think credit should go to Sami as he bowled very good. The first time in a long time. All he needed was confidence and im glad that he was smiling, showing aggression in his bowling and bowling fast.

[Gujar]

Any coincidence that Sami bowled his best with Inzy off the field, and Younis Khan encouraging him?

[Gunner786]

They are right here, a more interesting question would be, where have YOU been for this whole series after predicting prior to the series that we would get destroyed by Sami in every test! He has one ok day and you're back, very convenient!


are you sure your english?

that pic of monty is very misleading

[MecnunK]

I cant actually believe some of reasons that are being alluded to here by people as for Sami's failure to impress with the ball.

The question is not why his speed has reduced neither does it matter? L&L or raw speed, you cant do one by itself and be successful for long, you need a degree of both. The less you have of one the more of the other you must cultivate and learn. This is the crux of it, HE doesnt seem to learn. He remains the same with the same weaknesses.

The question is also not whether he is the unluckiest bowler in world cricket?

The question is , how long should Sami should be persevered with and chance not given to another bowler out there based upon his abysmal performances. From a management perspective, they can only give so many chances right?

As for nurturing him and treating him with kiddies gloves etc.. why? Do they nurture other bowlers more? if so then it is obviously unfair but I am not aware that this is so..

Sami has consistently failed, and as genuine Pak fan I really feel for him because he looks like he tries every time but just doesnt seem to be good enough.

As many have pointed out and a 10 year old can see he bowls two bad deliveries almost every over to get smashed by half decent batters. Some get away with it , he doesnt. he should have started there!!! If he really is passionate about playing for Pak then this is what he should practice..delivering six balls consistently on off-stump. If it is Psychologial or confidence related then it is only Sami who can solve that. Noone else.

Although I feel extremely sorry, I think Sami has to go . He could use the opportunity to better hismself but until then someone should be given a chance.

[infamous9383]

Sami bowled good today though and picked up three wickets

[cavin420]

wow sami has two wkts mubarak ho! world class performance!
actually he took 3 wickets :11:

[Has]

Well done today Sami, it seems as though he had a decent day with the ball, picking 3 wickets up will give him confidence, but Nazir outperformed him.

As far as I am concerned he is now 6th in the pecking order, one good day with the ball doesn’t mean an awful lot, but the door is never closed.

Maybe he hasn’t been used in the best way, and maybe he has been low of confidence, but this suggests to me that he doesn’t have the mentality of an international cricketer. If he can’t help his own success by taking some control and by motivating himself then he should not be playing international cricket.

I still think that spending a year out of the spot light of international cricket would let him slay some metal demons and allow him to work out how to get the best out of what talent he has.

[Officer Barbrady]

I Although I feel extremely sorry, I think Sami has to go . He could use the opportunity to better hismself but until then someone should be given a chance.

Quite right.

And anyway Gul selects himself on performance and someone has to make way for Asif (and perhaps Shoaib).

[Somali Pirate]

Its funny how sami 'suddenly gains confidence' when his @*s is on the line

[Amjid Javed]

Its funny how sami 'suddenly gains confidence' when his @*s is on the line

yeah exactly, 10 crap test and then 1 good one to save his career for another 10 tests atleast.

[cavin420]

yeah exactly, 10 crap test and then 1 good one to save his career for another 10 tests atleast.
inshAllah.

[Gasherbrum]

love him or loathe him, either way, he was good today. shows what he can do when things go right for him. not sure if its the backing of captain and coach (do consider that the coach has not changed today) or if its a mental thing with sami, or even a physical thing in terms of having the right rhythym when bowling. he has been called out when bowling poorly and should be credited for bowling quite well today. as far as remaining in the starting line-up, we probably have better options once all the bowlers are fit and i'm pretty sure sami is smart enough to know that. he has a lot of work to do yet to be considered amongst the top three pacers in the country. he'll do well if he stays away from the blame game. monty and chris read should serve as examples. not backed by the management, yet proving their worth to the team. i think he has plenty of tests left in him for Pakistan and hopefully the brief success he had today will allow him to believe that he has it in him. work on your weaknesses, come back stronger.

[Schiller]

instrumental, his pace has dropped, no denying that, even with 90 being kissed as ggm would say.

frankly, he shouldn't be near the team anymore, in Blakes words, more than enough

[Sultan Yusuf]

I don't understand what the fuss is about. Even without Noddy's comments, it is plainly obvious that the team-management have tried to make Sami a control bowler and get him to sacrifice his pace for L & L.

In some scenarios, that would not be such a bad move. If Gul or Asif were bowling 90+ without much control, it would make sense to get them to cut down on pace, because they have other advantages - i.e. height, the ability to get more seam-movement by slowing it down a touch. However Sami is not that type of bowler - he doesn't have height and is more of a skidder. It is poor judgement by the management. Either you get Sami to perform at top pace or you don't select him.

This however does not exonerate Sami from blame. He should know himself what type of bowler he is. He should know what he is capable of and bowl accordingly.

[Mercenary]

This is just a reminder.

PakPassion is a cricket forum can we stick to the subject here. Any mention of ICF will be deleted, we dont waste time with second rate rubbish here. There's a saying we have here at PP...

"On ICF all you read about is PP, on PP all you read about is cricket!!"

So let them talk about us if they want, after all when the Dawn and The Guardian are talking about us then why wouldnt they?? As for us, let us continue with the sort of talk that gets us such a varied readership ;-)

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[akpower]

Sami shd still be out for the 4th test. He still remains to much of a risky player imo. I'd still have Abdul Razzaq or Samiullah Niazi if Asif is unfit. If Asif is fit, Sami shd make way. Nazir has been better then Sami overall.

The cross roads in his career have come and gone. A mere 3 wicket day shd not save him. Many young, talented and hard-working kids are waiting back home to grab Sami's spot. At least one of them deserve it for the next series. And Sami needs to be shown the door for good.

[MecnunK]

I don't understand what the fuss is about. Even without Noddy's comments, it is plainly obvious that the team-management have tried to make Sami a control bowler and get him to sacrifice his pace for L & L.

In some scenarios, that would not be such a bad move. If Gul or Asif were bowling 90+ without much control, it would make sense to get them to cut down on pace, because they have other advantages - i.e. height, the ability to get more seam-movement by slowing it down a touch. However Sami is not that type of bowler - he doesn't have height and is more of a skidder. It is poor judgement by the management. Either you get Sami to perform at top pace or you don't select him.

This however does not exonerate Sami from blame. He should know himself what type of bowler he is. He should know what he is capable of and bowl accordingly.


I must admit I do not understand your point or rather you criticism of management. When Sami bowled pace he was mediocre, when bowls L&L he is mediocre. Agree with last paragraph. If anyone is to blame the Sami is it. I dont mean blame in a bad sense, I mean responsibility rather.

[Saqlain_doosra]

This is just a reminder.

PakPassion is a cricket forum can we stick to the subject here. Any mention of ICF will be deleted, we dont waste time with second rate rubbish here. There's a saying we have here at PP...

"On ICF all you read about is PP, on PP all you read about is cricket!!"

So let them talk about us if they want, after all when the Dawn and The Guardian are talking about us then why wouldnt they?? As for us, let us continue with the sort of talk that gets us such a varied readership ;-)

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cricinfo will talk about pp soon. ICF still lives in the dark ages of 2004

[Sultan Yusuf]

I must admit I do not understand your point or rather you criticism of management. When Sami bowled pace he was mediocre, when bowls L&L he is mediocre. Agree with last paragraph. If anyone is to blame the Sami is it. I dont mean blame in a bad sense, I mean responsibility rather.

read the second paragraph - esp last sentence it should explain it!