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MIG
26th August 2006, 05:14
Read any newspaper, watch any headline and tell me what are people associating with the game of cricket this morning ?

No its not Inzi or Pakistan or even the ICC!

Its 2 words ( well one is a number!, other the name of this Vile Man - Hair )

Now answer this - who should be charged for soiling the name of Cricket?

This man Hair has done more to harm the image of cricket on an INTERNATIONAL stage than any scandal ever in the history of this game !

Most people who pay lip service to cricket dont care about "Ball tampering" or whether Inzi led his men out in 5 or 10 minutes or whether the umpires removed the bails etc - all they care and see is an email from an Umpire holding this great game as his hostage and demanding a ransom of USD$500,000!!

Can there be a bigger SHAME on cricket ?

From FoxNews to CNN - all networks are talking of this figure - what other form of disrepute can equal this nonsense ?

If someone - anyone from the ICC is reading this - THINK !!

Donny
26th August 2006, 05:33
More hysterical nonsense.

Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

the_game
26th August 2006, 05:38
More hysterical nonsense.

Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

Your garbage is going to be deleted eventually. Remember this, even moderators have opinions. They are not robots who are supposed to bear with trolls like yourself. Cheers!

Mercenary
26th August 2006, 06:02
More hysterical nonsense.

Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

That's right Donny, the whole world on one side and the righteous Hair and his Australian backers on the other side!!

Yes you're right, we're the ones who look hysterical in this ;-)

Slugger
26th August 2006, 07:01
this should be brought up as well

Momo
26th August 2006, 08:53
More hysterical nonsense.

Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

Donny seems to have lost his marbles. I sympathize with him though. Yesterday's incidents have been a bit too much for him. Don't give up hope man. As your hero said: "Nobody died and life will go on regardless." :)

bakarashi
26th August 2006, 09:01
Donny, please have a bit of distance from the company, lest you are liable to be allowed the treatment, shortly before suggested.

Zeenix
26th August 2006, 10:18
More hysterical nonsense.
coming from Donny
And the hysterical stuff is below.


Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

Easa
26th August 2006, 10:44
More hysterical nonsense.

Alternatively: "MIG - Bringing PakPassion into disrepute"

What is wrong with you, man?

Have you finally flipped? This isn't the Donny, I know.

Chief
26th August 2006, 12:56
Here is what I asked Mr. Woolmer at his website.

Question Date: 8/23/2006 2:15:12 PM
Question:

Hello Mr. Woolmer; Did you know that by not showing up we will forefeit the match? Or there were some doubts? I am sure Inzi did not know this. Is it not Mr. Hair who brought the game to disrepute? Can he be penalized too? Thanks.

Answer Date: 8/25/2006 11:25:18 AM
Answer:


Yes everyone was aware but the reality is that we were prepared to play and that a lot of negotiations were happening a little more tolerance by the Umpire might have arrested all these problems.

Bob


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Question Date: 8/23/2006 2:09:41 PM
Question:

Hello Mr. Woolmer; Can we not file complaint/charges to ICC against Hair for bringing the game of cricket to disrepute? Thanks?

Answer Date:
Answer:

OZGOD
26th August 2006, 16:19
I think it's a fair suggestion. I believe that the process of law should be followed and Inzy should still front up the hearing for ball tampering and bringing the game into disrepute by the sit-in. He will likely still be found guilty for the second charge but as for the first - who knows? The panel will have to decide that. But Darrell Hair should also have to answer questions on this resignation email, though to be fair it was Speed who disclosed it to the public, not Hair, in the interests of transparency. But it doesn't look good, whether it was stress related or whatever and the question should be asked now, as it's become public.

OZGOD
26th August 2006, 16:34
What is wrong with you, man?

Have you finally flipped? This isn't the Donny, I know.

I can understand Donny's reaction though. I'm looking at this issue as a neutral - the fact that Hair is Australian is not an issue for me as he's an umpire, not a team. I'm prepared to make a decision based on facts, not assumptions, and so far we don't have a lot of facts on the table as yet. My initial feelings are that blame should, and will be, shared around among a number of stakeholders. But there's a bit of one-eyed-ness here at the moment, lots of people with Pakistan eyepatches on (understandable as this is a Pak forum) with the "Hair is evil, Hair is wrong, we are totally innocent and that's all there is to it" mentality. Sometimes that pushes neutrals - or neutrals with a slight Australian loyalty - the other way. :)

the_game
26th August 2006, 17:26
I can understand Donny's reaction though. I'm looking at this issue as a neutral - the fact that Hair is Australian is not an issue for me as he's an umpire, not a team. I'm prepared to make a decision based on facts, not assumptions, and so far we don't have a lot of facts on the table as yet. My initial feelings are that blame should, and will be, shared around among a number of stakeholders. But there's a bit of one-eyed-ness here at the moment, lots of people with Pakistan eyepatches on (understandable as this is a Pak forum) with the "Hair is evil, Hair is wrong, we are totally innocent and that's all there is to it" mentality. Sometimes that pushes neutrals - or neutrals with a slight Australian loyalty - the other way. :)

With 26 cameras catching nothing, a spinner bowling from one end during the incident, and the history of bad decisions by Hair against us, do you really think we have the Pakistan eyepatches on? You, sir, need to take the Australian eyepatches off and think.

zMario
26th August 2006, 17:30
With 26 cameras catching nothing, a spinner bowling from one end during the incident, and the history of bad decisions by Hair against us, do you really think we have the Pakistan eyepatches on? You, sir, need to take the Australian eyepatches off and think.
And look at Hair's greedy want for $500,000.

That tells a huge story - after the hearing, he thinks that Pakistan will find themselves not guilty of ball tampering, which launches another huge investigation - Why Hair said they were ball tampering.

Read some newspapers from UK, or The New York Times - they even explain the game of cricket for you!

Hash
26th August 2006, 17:32
OzGod- You have to understand one thing. This is not a one-off incident we have had with Darrell Hair. Over the years it has been building and building and building. This was just the final straw. This was the point when we come together and say 'enough is enough'.

I am serious.......go and get the video of EVERY match Pakistan has played for the last few years with Darrell Hair as one of the umpires. If it was a couple of mistakes here and there it would be fine. But the FACT is it isn't. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME and it is always crucial. This is what has led us to question his integrity, his impartiality and his honesty. Every single time cannot be a coincidence.

Remember the issue here is with Darrell Hair. We have not complained about the other umpires. In the past we have been screwed by Bowden, Rudi and others as well but they are just crap umpires. Their honesty, integrity and impartiality is NOT in question (though I get the feeling Bowden has one or two issues with Danish).

When it comes to Darrell Hair.......I'm afraid enough is enough. We're just not going to take it any more.

zMario
26th August 2006, 17:33
OzGod- You have to understand one thing. This is not a one-off incident we have had with Darrell Hair. Over the years it has been building and building and building. This was just the final straw. This was the point when we come together and say 'enough is enough'.

I am serious.......go and get the video of EVERY match Pakistan has played for the last few years with Darrell Hair as one of the umpires. If it was a couple of mistakes here and there it would be fine. But the FACT is it isn't. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME and it is always crucial. This is what has led us to question his integrity, his impartiality and his honesty. Every single time cannot be a coincidence.

Remember the issue here is with Darrell Hair. We have not complained about the other umpires. In the past we have been screwed by Bowden, Rudi and others as well but they are just crap umpires. Their honesty, integrity and impartiality is NOT in question (though I get the feeling Bowden has one or two issues with Danish).

When it comes to Darrell Hair.......I'm afraid enough is enough. We're just not going to take it any more.
Yeah, what he said :P

MIG
27th August 2006, 06:52
Thanks to Atherton for his comment, posted on another thread:


Former England captain Mike Atherton said it was "extraordinary" the ICC were yet to charge Hair with any impropriety.

Atherton said: "It seems extraordinary when you consider that Inzamam-ul-Haq has been charged on two counts - one of ball-tampering, for which nobody can find any evidence, and secondly for bringing the game into disrepute on the back of the first charge.

"So poor old Inzy finds himself under two charges, but Darrell Hair, after these extraordinary letters, finds himself under no charge whatsoever," Atherton told Sky Sports News.


Thats exactly what all fair minded people are asking....

Easa
27th August 2006, 07:05
OzGod- You have to understand one thing. This is not a one-off incident we have had with Darrell Hair. Over the years it has been building and building and building. This was just the final straw. This was the point when we come together and say 'enough is enough'.

I am serious.......go and get the video of EVERY match Pakistan has played for the last few years with Darrell Hair as one of the umpires. If it was a couple of mistakes here and there it would be fine. But the FACT is it isn't. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME and it is always crucial. This is what has led us to question his integrity, his impartiality and his honesty. Every single time cannot be a coincidence.

Remember the issue here is with Darrell Hair. We have not complained about the other umpires. In the past we have been screwed by Bowden, Rudi and others as well but they are just crap umpires. Their honesty, integrity and impartiality is NOT in question (though I get the feeling Bowden has one or two issues with Danish).

When it comes to Darrell Hair.......I'm afraid enough is enough. We're just not going to take it any more.

Great post, Hash bhai. Completely agree.

Cric-PhotoPassionate
27th August 2006, 10:44
I had been saying here that ICC must introduce some strict laws against corrupt/rough umpires who violate their authority for their own ego and purposes. All the laws are against bowler and bats men. Why not introduce something against umpires too? I am sure if we keep something in place against umpires then they will be very careful to accuse any team without solid proofs and other issues. I agree they need power to control but not to use that power to disrepute the game for $500,000 bucks.

After this bad experience world of cricket never is the same. In 129 years of cricket, it was the biggest damage which was done my dishonest umpire not by players.

I hope, one day we will come to this stage to think about it. I think this the right time to make cricket most transperent game.

Thanks
CPP

Farhad
27th August 2006, 20:06
Read any newspaper, watch any headline and tell me what are people associating with the game of cricket this morning ?

No its not Inzi or Pakistan or even the ICC!

Its 2 words ( well one is a number!, other the name of this Vile Man - Hair )

Now answer this - who should be charged for soiling the name of Cricket?

This man Hair has done more to harm the image of cricket on an INTERNATIONAL stage than any scandal ever in the history of this game !

Most people who pay lip service to cricket dont care about "Ball tampering" or whether Inzi led his men out in 5 or 10 minutes or whether the umpires removed the bails etc - all they care and see is an email from an Umpire holding this great game as his hostage and demanding a ransom of USD$500,000!!

Can there be a bigger SHAME on cricket ?

From FoxNews to CNN - all networks are talking of this figure - what other form of disrepute can equal this nonsense ?

If someone - anyone from the ICC is reading this - THINK !!


Like Wasim Akram's favorite word..........Absolutely!