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s28
2nd June 2018, 21:40
Wrong

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s28
2nd June 2018, 21:42
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/amazing-video-shows-corbyn-chant-14736078

This is the moment hundreds of people at Bongo’s Bingo proved that Corbyn-mania is still alive and well in Liverpool.

This video - of the now iconic song using the Labour leader’s name - was taken as the popular Bongo’s Bingo event celebrated its third birthday at Bramley Moore-Dock this week.



In the clip, hundreds of jubilant revellers can be heard belting out the words ‘Oh Jeremy Corbyn ’ to the tune of Seven Nation Army by the White Stripes.

The song became synonymous with Labour’s General Election campaign last year and it believed to have originated in our region - coming to life as the Labour leader made a surprise appearance at the Wirral Live music festival at Tranmere’s Prenton Park last May .


Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn (Image: Liam McBurney/PA Wire)
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And while an impressive performance by Corbyn’s Labour wasn’t enough to allow him to form a government, this video shows that he is as popular on Merseyside as ever.

The Bongo’s Bingo events at Bramley Moore-Dock saw US singing star Kelis take to the stage.

j_kazmi
2nd June 2018, 22:34
This has got to be a joke. Such an odd place for people to be singing that.

Gabbar Singh
2nd June 2018, 23:08
Lol we’ve had a Tory led government for 8 years and it’s currently a weak and divided shambles as it moves from one crisis to another yet Labour are still behind in the polls. And Labour fans actually want to celebrate all of this? :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_genera l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_the_next_U nited_Kingdom_general_election

KingKhanWC
2nd June 2018, 23:59
Lol we’ve had a Tory led government for 8 years and it’s currently a weak and divided shambles as it moves from one crisis to another yet Labour are still behind in the polls. And Labour fans actually want to celebrate all of this? :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_genera l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_the_next_U nited_Kingdom_general_election

Because finally this is a proper socialist type Labour government, not the so called 'New Labour' which was no different. Corbyn's idea are radical for a society fooled by threats of economic disaster and security threats, it will take time but the movement has began strongly.

shaz619
3rd June 2018, 02:20
Lol we’ve had a Tory led government for 8 years and it’s currently a weak and divided shambles as it moves from one crisis to another yet Labour are still behind in the polls. And Labour fans actually want to celebrate all of this? :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_genera l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_the_next_U nited_Kingdom_general_election

Wouldn't underestimate them, I doubt the polls predicted a hung parliament in 2017. Didn't know you were a Tory Gabbar Singh :yk

barah_admi
3rd June 2018, 04:41
Lol we’ve had a Tory led government for 8 years and it’s currently a weak and divided shambles as it moves from one crisis to another yet Labour are still behind in the polls. And Labour fans actually want to celebrate all of this? :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_genera l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_the_next_U nited_Kingdom_general_election

I have never understood this point of view: "oh the Tories are so rubbish but Labour can't beat them so they must be rubbish too."

Grow up, stop going by what the media is telling you and base your politics on policy.

s28
3rd June 2018, 05:51
Indeed. With a Compliant right wing media the Tories will always have a poll lead IN BETWEEN Election periods. It is ONLY during Election periods that Ofcom MANDATES fairness so the media HAVE TO SHOW BALANCE. That is why during last Election Campaign over the space of 12 weeks Labour went from 20 points behind to Level

Also it is only because of Labour opposition that it is now 'taken as read' that this is a weak and incompetent Tory Government

Donal Cozzie
3rd June 2018, 06:30
It has peaked. This is the weakest Government in UK history and its still going, Labour dont know where they stand re: Brexit, refusing to commit to anything and have lost some of the momentum they gained previous election. Posting a tweet of the most infamous of Labour's groups known for their cult like devotion doesnt change that.

For what its worth I like Corbyn and Labour, they'd be infinitely better than the Conservative circus group in power atm, but maybe Labour should try actually committing to reversing Brexit or holding a second referendum as the overwhelming majority of young people want instead of committing to nothing. Fact is this is such a poor Government in the UK atm yet honestly it looks like it'll last the term at this point. DUP wont ever collapse the Government regardless of what the Tory's due as they despise Labour and Corbyn too much to do so.

Also, they need to kick out the likes of Kate Hoey and co.

s28
3rd June 2018, 06:32
Indeed. With a Compliant right wing media the Tories will always have a poll lead IN BETWEEN Election periods. It is ONLY during Election periods that Ofcom MANDATES fairness so the media HAVE TO SHOW BALANCE. That is why during last Election Campaign over the space of 12 weeks Labour went from 20 points behind to Level

Also it is only because of Labour opposition that it is now 'taken as read' that this is a weak and incompetent Tory Government

Robert
3rd June 2018, 10:55
I have never understood this point of view: "oh the Tories are so rubbish but Labour can't beat them so they must be rubbish too."

Grow up, stop going by what the media is telling you and base your politics on policy.

Seems valid to me. John Smith’s Labour had a fifteen point lead over Major’s Tories, who were far more competent and united than this shambles.

Robert
3rd June 2018, 11:18
For what its worth I like Corbyn and Labour, they'd be infinitely better than the Conservative circus group in power atm, but maybe Labour should try actually committing to reversing Brexit or holding a second referendum as the overwhelming majority of young people want instead of committing to nothing. Fact is this is such a poor Government in the UK atm yet honestly it looks like it'll last the term at this point. DUP wont ever collapse the Government regardless of what the Tory's due as they despise Labour and Corbyn too much to do so.

Also, they need to kick out the likes of Kate Hoey and co.

It’s not working for the Lib Dems. You have to give a positive message doom-mongering is a voter turn-off.

Labour might loses a few Northern seats if them embrace Remain (though they might get some back from the Scot Nats). Instead they are making this disingenuous fudge with unachievable six tests.

Gordon Brown’s book is absorbing. He had the idea to get all the living Labour leaders one one platform prior to the referendum and support Remain. But Corbyn refused to stand on a platform with Blair. Then Brown suggested that they each go to one city for a simultaneous broadcast, but again Corbyn declined. He is a Leaver, always has been.

James
3rd June 2018, 12:42
Labour holds a solid 40% in the polls now which it has not achieved since Blair was the leader.

Corbyn is doing a good job, perhaps it is time to move away from “Corbyn-ISM” though and allow the movement to mature.

This ‘Labour Live’ concert in a couple of weeks hasn’t helped the situation, news of the super-poor ticket sales is spreading to the point now where the media is going to be all over this and it could be quite embarrassing for Labour.

Gabbar Singh
3rd June 2018, 14:02
Wouldn't underestimate them, I doubt the polls predicted a hung parliament in 2017. Didn't know you were a Tory Gabbar Singh :yk

Used to be, I’m not anymore. I spoiled my ballot at the last election. Wouldn’t vote for Labour currently either - would not trust Corbyn , Abbott and McDonnell to run a **** up at a brewery nevermind the country although the troublemaking side of me thinks it may be fun if they do get in so let’s see.

The polls do matter - when a government has been in power for a long time the opposition should be miles ahead in the opinion polls at this stage of the cycle.

Robert
3rd June 2018, 15:02
Used to be, I’m not anymore. I spoiled my ballot at the last election. Wouldn’t vote for Labour currently either - would not trust Corbyn , Abbott and McDonnell to run a **** up at a brewery nevermind the country although the troublemaking side of me thinks it may be fun if they do get in so let’s see.


I don’t blame you. UK politics is embarrassing now. Our European allies are shaking their heads in sorrow. We used to stand for pragmatism.

The Tories are hopelessly divided, led by careerists and steering for the most disastrous form of Brexit, while Labour have degenerated into a populist personality cult. The Lib Dems are off life support but still in long term rehab.

At least UKIP disintegrated. That’s one plus point.

shaz619
3rd June 2018, 17:28
Used to be, I’m not anymore. I spoiled my ballot at the last election. Wouldn’t vote for Labour currently either - would not trust Corbyn , Abbott and McDonnell to run a **** up at a brewery nevermind the country although the troublemaking side of me thinks it may be fun if they do get in so let’s see.

The polls do matter - when a government has been in power for a long time the opposition should be miles ahead in the opinion polls at this stage of the cycle.

Opinion polls matter but they are hardly terrible and I wouldn't use them as a gauge at this stage to see how well Labour will do in the next election, plus the same polls hardly predicted a hung parliament last time round.

Whoever is elected will have a very tough time in the future regardless, but in these trying times Corbyn could be the right man to be the PM; Theresa and the Tories despite their superior intellect and first class education have sent this country straight to hell and the people are not inspired on any level, all hope is dead.

Wouldn't deny that Corbyn has his flaws and I'd not want him to lead in a country with a thriving economy but those with the correct qualifications have done a rubbish job as it is and do not care about the people. Not saying that he will transform things altogether but I believe he'd make more people happy in one way or another in comparison to May.

barah_admi
3rd June 2018, 23:36
Seems valid to me. John Smith’s Labour had a fifteen point lead over Major’s Tories, who were far more competent and united than this shambles.

Why is it a valid point?

The media spends a disproportionately large amount of time attacking Labour as opposed to the Tories, why do you think people, most of whom are sheep that follow the media, would vote them into power?

Just take the recent anti-semitism/Islamophobia cases. The Guardian spent weeks writing about the story, it was front page news for almost a month and the same goes for Sky, BBC and so on....the Islamophobia story, which is just as pertinent, has barely made a scratch on the TV media, especially Sky, had a couple of articles on The Guardian and only really made an impact on the Independent, which isn't as powerful a media entity as the others.

It really is basic logic how public opinion will and has been influenced.

Robert
4th June 2018, 15:06
Opinion polls matter but they are hardly terrible and I wouldn't use them as a gauge at this stage to see how well Labour will do in the next election, plus the same polls hardly predicted a hung parliament last time round.

Whoever is elected will have a very tough time in the future regardless, but in these trying times Corbyn could be the right man to be the PM; Theresa and the Tories despite their superior intellect and first class education have sent this country straight to hell and the people are not inspired on any level, all hope is dead.

Wouldn't deny that Corbyn has his flaws and I'd not want him to lead in a country with a thriving economy but those with the correct qualifications have done a rubbish job as it is and do not care about the people. Not saying that he will transform things altogether but I believe he'd make more people happy in one way or another in comparison to May.

shaz619 he wouldn’t be in charge. McDonnell and Milne would be.

Cpt. Rishwat
4th June 2018, 15:42
I have never understood this point of view: "oh the Tories are so rubbish but Labour can't beat them so they must be rubbish too."

Grow up, stop going by what the media is telling you and base your politics on policy.

Well, the point is, the media does play a massive role in who wins elections, it's part of the game. What you call sheep are often referred to as swing voters who could go either way, media can play a massive role in getting those people to go one way or the other.

Robert
4th June 2018, 22:01
Why is it a valid point?

The media spends a disproportionately large amount of time attacking Labour as opposed to the Tories, why do you think people, most of whom are sheep that follow the media, would vote them into power?

Just take the recent anti-semitism/Islamophobia cases. The Guardian spent weeks writing about the story, it was front page news for almost a month and the same goes for Sky, BBC and so on....the Islamophobia story, which is just as pertinent, has barely made a scratch on the TV media, especially Sky, had a couple of articles on The Guardian and only really made an impact on the Independent, which isn't as powerful a media entity as the others.

It really is basic logic how public opinion will and has been influenced.

Because competent Labour leader Smith had a fifteen point poll lead over a much more able Tory Government than this current shower. People trusted Smith, despite the right wing media.

Otherwise you are saying that people who disagree with you are sheep. That’s arrogant. Most of those people have decades of experience of many Labour leaders. They have lived for a good while. Some of them are old enough to have chosen Wilson. They would have chosen Smith. They chose Blair three times. They rejected Brown, Miliband and Corbyn. They know people who can do the job when they see them.