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AssassinatedDevil
18th June 2018, 13:07
What do you guys think are the biggest problems that plague Pakistani society at the moment? I persoanlly believe that lack of educations amongst the youth is the source of most of our problems. Lack of hygiene, pollution, poverty are all connected to a poor educational system that we have in place. Due to this, we aren't able to compete with a lot of other countries in the work force, which leads to several lower class Pakistani immigrants settling for bad working conditions and low pay when choosing to work overseas.

Slog
18th June 2018, 13:51
Ofcourse a poor education system is the major major problem. However even if we have authorities genuinely want to fix this it will take generations so not a quick fix

But off the top off my head there are other problems which can be fixed somewhat quicker :

1) Cleanliness and Hygience: Our mullahs and politicians are quick to reference Islam to any matter and try to get legitimacy through it on most issues. However Islam focusses a lot on cleanliness and hygiene. So it's interesting how no effort is made to inculcate such civic sense on our people through religion when we use it for every other pointless matter under the sun. If our awaam is taught that cleanliness is part of faith then maybe perhaps there might be somewhat of a conscious effort by everyone to have cleanliness

2) Laziness and lack of initiative: too many of our people spend too much time on pointless exercises and exhibit laziness on issues that really matter. People have the energy to attend pointless rallies which yield zero impact about Muslim Brotherhood Goverment being removed in Egypt but don't want to work hard on activities which may improve our own country. For example productivity in the work force

venomousx
18th June 2018, 16:06
Obsession with religion

hafeezrocks
18th June 2018, 16:09
Extremism and Intolerance among people.

Arham_PakFan
18th June 2018, 16:39
Lack of proper education.This is the biggest problem facing the society,and most other problems stem from it including lack of hygiene,extremism etc.

Cpt. Rishwat
18th June 2018, 16:58
Rule of law isn't implemented properly. Far too easy to bypass it with connections and money. Put that right and everything else would fall in place.

Mamoon
18th June 2018, 17:29
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we donít want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we donít pay taxes; we want electricity, but we donít pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people donít take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.

IMMY69
18th June 2018, 17:49
Rule of law isn't implemented properly. Far too easy to bypass it with connections and money. Put that right and everything else would fall in place.

no no.
if people started paying taxes and their utility bills, even if they are not punished for evading them, then everything will be ok. The politicians will suddenly stop looting, the police will prevent crime and all will be well.

We don't need strong institutions, like many countries have, all we need are honest people who pay without being chased for it.

PakWarrior
18th June 2018, 18:03
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we donít want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we donít pay taxes; we want electricity, but we donít pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people donít take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.

Excellent post. I completely agree.

Cpt. Rishwat
18th June 2018, 20:45
no no.
if people started paying taxes and their utility bills, even if they are not punished for evading them, then everything will be ok. The politicians will suddenly stop looting, the police will prevent crime and all will be well.

We don't need strong institutions, like many countries have, all we need are honest people who pay without being chased for it.

Read the usual rubbish from the post above yours and you can see why the country is in the state it is. One of the biggest complainers regarding the nation seems to think in the first world everybody pays taxes and bills voluntarily because they are magically honest and free from corruption. I'm surprised they even bother with courts and jails here, we Brits are so upright and honest compared to brown sahibs country.

Greenstorm
18th June 2018, 20:53
We need stronger and professionally run institutions. Everything else will fall in place.

IMMY69
18th June 2018, 21:02
Read the usual rubbish from the post above yours and you can see why the country is in the state it is. One of the biggest complainers regarding the nation seems to think in the first world everybody pays taxes and bills voluntarily because they are magically honest and free from corruption. I'm surprised they even bother with courts and jails here, we Brits are so upright and honest compared to brown sahibs country.

You don't have to be educated, just a little common sense will do, to understand that the problem lies with corrupt institutions.

Itachi
18th June 2018, 23:45
Too much forgiving nature of the society as a whole.

Even after realizing the problems in the system, Pakistanis are too kind hearted to forgive and forget and hence, the problems are always there.

CricketCartoons
19th June 2018, 00:01
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we don’t want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we don’t pay taxes; we want electricity, but we don’t pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people don’t take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.

As usual, hits the nail on the head, but is not going to sit well with the apologists who try to hide their guilt behind incompetent and corrupt politicians.

PakWarrior
19th June 2018, 01:00
It's a combination of both society and corrupt politicians. Both to blame.

But ultimately, if you want to go a little deeper then it's corruption and corrupt government/politicians in particular that spread the disease of deception into Pakistan's society. The Dokaan Waala to the darzi. From the teacher to the clerk. Institution after institution. PIA to PCB. From the landlord to the tenant. They were all given the licence to lie and loot.

Also Jaahilness has more or less disappeared from most major races of the world. But not in Pakistanis. Main reason for this is the ridiculously low level of education and the extreme divide between rich and poor. It does something to the human psyche.

You can blame Zia, Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif for that. I class these three amongst the worst rulers in the history of human civilization.

Had the governments not been corrupt then you would not have seen this current state in Pakistan.

Cpt. Rishwat
19th June 2018, 01:07
We need to get rid of politicians and courts until our emaan and hearts are pure, once we are all perfect then of course our govts and courts will reflect it.

etc.

PakLFC
19th June 2018, 06:26
VIP culture for sure where everyone has to act a particular way. Always saying "no" to food being offered as a visitor even if you are starving!:asad2 Corruption is so obvious that doesn't need a mention. Imran Khan syndrome where anyone disagreeing with him is a traitor, Noora or what not.

Pakistanian
19th June 2018, 07:01
Ignorance

Bilal_103
19th June 2018, 08:53
Religion misunderstood is poison

Little Master
19th June 2018, 12:13
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we don’t want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we don’t pay taxes; we want electricity, but we don’t pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people don’t take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.

I agree with you. However, I would say that with the exception of few almost all humans are corruptible and will look to serve their self interest. It is only when the government and the institutions impose strict laws and enforcement of the laws that people fall in line. Case in point, the same people who would give bribes and steal electricity in Pakistan would wait in long ques and do everything by the book when they move out of Pakistan. Why? because they fear the laws.

Hence, it is responsibility of the government and the institutions to develop a society which is free from these. If the said government is itself corrupt and incompetent then obviously nothing is going to come out of society.

BaankeJi
19th June 2018, 12:19
How about women empowerment? Do you think women's problems are being discussed and addressed?

Asch Ali
19th June 2018, 12:54
The single biggest problem is the illiterate people that have no sense whatsoever, and spew out rubbish as they please. They are truly toxic waste.

Cpt. Rishwat
19th June 2018, 16:02
The single biggest problem is the illiterate people that have no sense whatsoever, and spew out rubbish as they please. They are truly toxic waste.

You have illiterate people everywhere who spew out nonsense, so I would suggest the bigger problem is the educated people who don't do anything about it.

Cpt. Rishwat
19th June 2018, 16:03
How about women empowerment? Do you think women's problems are being discussed and addressed?

Yes they are, comparatively speaking.

Loralai
19th June 2018, 17:36
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we don’t want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we don’t pay taxes; we want electricity, but we don’t pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people don’t take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.

Everything you say is correct.

I would add that from personal experiences that the biggest problems in Pakistan (and in diaspora communities) is the intolerance and our general unwillingness to allow people to express opinions (be they religious, political or social) which might differ from the majority. Any attempt to do so is usually met with lots of suspicion and distrust.

A case in point is Jibran Nasir who is offering a different narrative to other politicians right now. Rather than being respected, he is being accused of being a RAW agent, anti-national etc

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Response to Propaganda by BOL with false allegations of RAW funding and being anti Islam. I leave it to &#39;certain&#39; anchors of BOL to show moral courage and make it public that I was targetted by BOL for taking up <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShahrukhJatoi?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShahrukhJatoi</a> to Supreme Court<a href="https://t.co/ixWjfymG4W">https://t.co/ixWjfymG4W</a></p>&mdash; M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1008736964260950018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Asch Ali
19th June 2018, 23:54
You have illiterate people everywhere who spew out nonsense, so I would suggest the bigger problem is the educated people who don't do anything about it.

I am talking about the people who supposedly have an education. But they are seriously mentally deficient, egotistical, and shameless.

Syed1
20th June 2018, 00:41
Biggest problem: corrupt rulers and their worshippers.

DeadBall
20th June 2018, 02:36
Think education, and real education that promotes critical thinking instead of the ratta culture we have there.

GoUgandaCranes
20th June 2018, 02:46
Whatever is in abundance, loses value and we happen to have an excess of people, hence blood is cheaper than water and is spilled everyday for trivial reasons.

Start from the source, either create resources to bring back value to people, or produce less people to have any importance. Everything else should slowly fall into place when the life of people do have a value of any sort.

Yossarian
20th June 2018, 02:51
The biggest problem is the corruption of our society. We are happy to blame governments, and hope for politicians that are squeaky clean, but we donít want to change ourselves.

We want development and progress in all sectors, but we donít pay taxes; we want electricity, but we donít pay our bills.

We criticize the corruption of our politicians, but we will pay bribes, kickbacks and use references and contacts to get our way around.

Unfortunately, you cannot function without all of these in Pakistan. Even if you are a deserving candidate on merit, you will be sidestepped by someone with more power.

However, it is a failure of our society, not our governments. As long as people donít take responsibility for their own actions at an individual level, nothing will change.Yep. I agree.


What do you guys think are the biggest problems that plague Pakistani society at the moment? One word:
Hypocrisy

Cpt. Rishwat
20th June 2018, 16:18
Biggest problem: corrupt rulers and their worshippers.

As I said earlier, it's as simple as having rules and enforcing them. Here's an easy example: When wearing a seatbelt was made compulsory in the UK, people didn't want to wear them, left to their own devices, it would never have been implemented. Once the police started enforcing the rule by fining people caught driving without a belt, everyone soon started complying.

Pakistan has plenty of police, and a strong military tradition. There really isn't any excuse for not having law and order, which will itself put right a lot of wrongs.

IMMY69
20th June 2018, 17:31
Blaming society for the woes of the country is an obvious yet extremely simple, and judging by some of the replies, dare i say it effective way to defend the corrupt rulers.

Deewana Mastana
20th June 2018, 17:56
The new problem seems to have come from across the border about men publicly flashing themselves and sexually assaulting public (females) especially.

Assault in public was there in Pakistan but it did not go to the extent of flashing it all in public and graphically doing so which was more heard of from across the border.

CricketCartoons
20th June 2018, 18:08
The new problem seems to have come from across the border about men publicly flashing themselves and sexually assaulting public (females) especially.

Assault in public was there in Pakistan but it did not go to the extent of flashing it all in public and graphically doing so which was more heard of from across the border.

Must be the purvaia (easterlie wind) which flows towards Pakistan, carrying the air which passed through Indian lungs.

Deewana Mastana
20th June 2018, 18:17
Must be the purvaia (easterlie wind) which flows towards Pakistan, carrying the air which passed through Indian lungs.

The confidence surely has if anything.