Meanwhile, the weather for the 2nd ODI.....

[Salman]

A possibility of another wash out could be on the cards.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5752/weatherri9.jpg

www.met-office.gov.uk (http://www.met-office.gov.uk/lib/includes/fsssi/city/london.html)

[Hash]

The first four will be washed out in similar circumstances to yesterday (ie we would be on the verge of destroying them to humiliating proportions....as we were yesterday) and then England will fluke the 5th and win the series 1-0.....even though in reality we won it 4-1.

[Rana]

just wen we start playing well!

[yk]

They shud seriously consider reserve days.

[ammarz]

This is what the weather channel says here about london
Saturday: Cloudy and windy with periods of light rain. High 67F. Winds SW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
perhaps the 20% of no rain coming down. and it could change in the next day or so.

[infamous9383]

No matches for Shahid Yousuf if the first two are washouts.

[Osman]

This is what the weather channel says here about london
Saturday: Cloudy and windy with periods of light rain. High 67F. Winds SW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
perhaps the 20% of no rain coming down. and it could change in the next day or so.

inshallah that will happen !!!

[Hash]

No matches for Shahid Yousuf if the first two are washouts.

What if we win the 3rd and the 4th? Will they not play him in the 5th?

[cavin420]

What if we win the 3rd and the 4th? Will they not play him in the 5th?
Dont think he will be played in this series, Inzi said it clearly, reason they have picked Shahid yousaf is to Groom him, so that he knows exactly what his role is , gains some experience e.t.c .

but i would love to see Shahid play at least 1 match .

[Easa]

The first four will be washed out in similar circumstances to yesterday (ie we would be on the verge of destroying them to humiliating proportions....as we were yesterday) and then England will fluke the 5th and win the series 1-0.....even though in reality we won it 4-1.

:))

[Immy Ji]

Oh well looks like another crappy day :( !


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0008

[Saj]

I dont understand why there are no reserve days for this series. I think it should be mandatory for ODIs to have reserve days.

[Easa]

Welcome back, Saj bhai. :)

[infamous9383]

reserve days are necessary i dont want the whole series to be washed out and how come no cricket grounds have a dome or roof

[PlanetPakistan]

reserve days are necessary i dont want the whole series to be washed out and how come no cricket grounds have a dome or roof
They do! In AUS!

[PlanetPakistan]

I guess the natural elements add a new dimension to the game so it's not always a bad thing

[Easa]

I guess the natural elements add a new dimension to the game so it's not always a bad thing

Not really. I'd rather see a full game than an interrupted, shortened one.

[Hash]

Not really. I'd rather see a full game than an interrupted, shortened one.

Exactly.

It use to be fine when they had reserve days. I have no idea why they stopped and am yet to read any logical explanation

[infamous9383]

Not really. I'd rather see a full game than an interrupted, shortened one.



Agreed but the best thing would be a retractable roof on every cricket stadium which can open and close.

[Hash]

Agreed but the best thing would be a retractable roof on every cricket stadium which can open and close.

Not sure how practical that would be to be honest. Not everyone can afford it and 99% of stadiums in the world would probably have to be demolished and rebuilt from scratch in order to support such a structure.

It is far more sensible to just have a reserve day for every ODI match! Something lost on the ECB obviously.

[Easa]

Agreed but the best thing would be a retractable roof on every cricket stadium which can open and close.

That is complicated. It would take an extremely long time for this idea to have an effect as there are many many stadiums.

Why not just have reserve days for ODI matches, as Hash bhai said? It would be a hell of alot easier!

[Uzzy]

I'm still wondering why Cardiff of all places...

[infamous9383]

That is complicated. It would take an extremely long time for this idea to have an effect as there are many many stadiums.

Why not just have reserve days for ODI matches, as Hash bhai said? It would be a hell of alot easier!


but sometimes it still rains for like 10 days in a row like in SL/IND series.

[MWH]

Reserve days with the match being carried on should be allowed- not sure what the current ruling on this is.The most farcical weather scenario was at that Champs Trophy final some years back when India were playing Sri Lanka. With rain abandoning play after one innings, the match was started from scratch the next day only for the weather to strike again after one completed innings. What would happen in a World Cup final if weather prevented play after a team had scored 350 and had the opposition at 20/3? Would they re-start the match on the reserve day?

[Hash]

I agree. The match should just carry on. No need to start from scratch. No logic behind that at all.

[Cric-PhotoPassionate]

Well, no lights at Lords as well. We may not see full game although bought tickets. keep finger cross and pray to allah.

[infamous9383]

more of the same from weather.com

http://uk.weather.com/weather/detail/UKXX0085?dayNum=1

[b0wld]

I dont understand why there are no reserve days for this series. I think it should be mandatory for ODIs to have reserve days.
R U KIDDING ME... u want the England team go through another 5-0 whitewash... i mean comon the ECB is not that STUPID!!!!

[cavin420]

according to the weather forecast, it should be raining as we speak, but its not raining right now :D point is, its just a forecast, which could go horribly wrong ;)

inshAllah we will have a result tomorrow .

[Rob H]

I've just been told between 10:30 and 6:30 London is going to be "Murked".

[HAFRIDI]

I've just been told between 10:30 and 6:30 London is going to be "Murked".

It's 'Merrrrrrrked'

forecast lies

[in_cutter]

according to the weather forecast, it should be raining as we speak, but its not raining right now :D point is, its just a forecast, which could go horribly wrong ;)

inshAllah we will have a result tomorrow .

that's the spirit.. :19:

[Muyazzim Khan]

I am near Lords its been gloomy with sporadic sunshine but no rain today. Hopefully tommorow will be the same at its worst.

[Rob H]

I am near Lords its been gloomy with sporadic sunshine but no rain today. Hopefully tommorow will be the same at its worst.
thanks for the update muyazzim, can you keep us well informed please? :)

[KaSaNoVa_G]

I just cheaked the weather for tomorrow again to see if its changed much but it aint...
going to start raining from 9am or so and looks like its going to be heavy rain all day
until 7pm or so.. i really hope they are wrong or it be a waste going all the way to lords
for nothing but looking at it i really dont think they going to be wrong :(

[b0wld]

i heard frm a frend that the match strats at the same time as it did @ Cardiff i.e. 6:30 p.m. Pakistan standard time...can u guyz confirm this... coz i think tomorrows game is a Day game

[KaSaNoVa_G]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/rain.shtml#no_url

this is what i have been cheaking and if you forward that play thing until around 10am or
1pm tomorrow you can see just about everything around us is going to have rain coming down on it :(

[ZM]

i heard frm a frend that the match strats at the same time as it did @ Cardiff i.e. 6:30 p.m. Pakistan standard time...can u guyz confirm this... coz i think tomorrows game is a Day game
its going to be around 4 hours earlier than cardiff

[KaSaNoVa_G]

i heard frm a frend that the match strats at the same time as it did @ Cardiff i.e. 6:30 p.m. Pakistan standard time...can u guyz confirm this... coz i think tomorrows game is a Day game


Tomorrow is a day game.. Lords never do a day/night...

[ZM]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/rain.shtml#no_url

this is what i have been cheaking and if you forward that play thing until around 10am or
1pm tomorrow you can see just about everything around us is going to have rain coming down on it :(
yeah looks bad but dont worry, the weather forecast has been wrong in the past, we'll c tmoz

[KaSaNoVa_G]

yeah looks bad but dont worry, the weather forecast has been wrong in the past, we'll c tmoz

Inshallah they be wrong again :D ...

[ZM]

Inshallah they be wrong again :D ...
InshAllah

[Abdul Qadir 236]

yeah looks bad but dont worry, the weather forecast has been wrong in the past, we'll c tmoz

aren't you clever!
they never ever get it right in UK - is it the same in other countries?

[<< Rashid >>]

I think that we will get a result. Even though the chances of rain are 8/10, this is for light rain.

I'm sure they'll be able to squeeze a 20-over game in somewhere.

Which makes me think, why can't the umpires decide this in advance?

[Rana]

if london is gonna get murked, so is my Saturday league game!!

noooooooooooooo!!!!

[yk]

^ Becoz british weather is too unpredictable.

[Rana]

Yk are you gonna come for Ashford Nets??

remember its at 6pm

[PlanetPakistan]

Not really. I'd rather see a full game than an interrupted, shortened one.
Off course every cricket fan would want that but we also have to factor in the fact that over head conditions are a part of the game and without these natural elements cricket will be a bit 1 dimensional

[CricketJunoon]

ZM your confident predictions for the last game went all wrong....I had some faith in your predictions but now I don't know......give me some hope at the very least.

[Hash]

Off course every cricket fan would want that but we also have to factor in the fact that over head conditions are a part of the game and without these natural elements cricket will be a bit 1 dimensional

Wouldn't be at all one dimensional. It would be perfect........everyone wants a game. The players, the paying spectators, the millions who watch on TV.

Weather just ruins it.

[cavin420]

Perhaps, its about time The ECB think about indoor Stadiums .

[Uzzy]

Perhaps, its about time The ECB think about indoor Stadiums .

Or reserve days.

[ZM]

ZM your confident predictions for the last game went all wrong....I had some faith in your predictions but now I don't know......give me some hope at the very least.
the game will be rained off!
i will update on my predictions possibly tmoz if i wake up early enough to come onto the cpu before the cricket!

[Hash]

Having a roof on every stadium is completely and utterly impractical. Think about it. It just wouldn't happen. It would be far too expensive and most stadiums probably couldn't support such a structure and would have to be demolished and rebuilt......which would take years and years. It just aint sensible.

Reserve days on the other hand are both practical, sensible and cheap! But I guess the ECB don't want to have them.

[Easa]

Off course every cricket fan would want that but we also have to factor in the fact that over head conditions are a part of the game and without these natural elements cricket will be a bit 1 dimensional

Nobody wants to see rain while they are at a cricket match.

[Easa]

Having a roof on every stadium is completely and utterly impractical. Think about it. It just wouldn't happen. It would be far too expensive and most stadiums probably couldn't support such a structure and would have to be demolished and rebuilt......which would take years and years. It just aint sensible.

Reserve days on the other hand are both practical, sensible and cheap! But I guess the ECB don't want to have them.

Exactly. It would be nigh near impossible to have a roof over every stadium in internatonal cricket. It would cost too much money and would take so much time.

Reserve days would be a much more sensible option, IMO.

[kablooee87]

Question: Is it possible to convert this game into a Day/Night match if the weather clear up later on? I ask because of the BBC forecast:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/24hr.shtml?world=0008

Says it will clear up later on in the day.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

it would be if Lord's had floodlights!

ECB should build a national stadium with a roof on it and drop in pitches.

[Hash]

Question: Is it possible to convert this game into a Day/Night match if the weather clear up later on? I ask because of the BBC forecast:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/24hr.shtml?world=0008

Says it will clear up later on in the day.

Lords is to backward. Doesn't have floodlights.

[Slugger]

another washout

[Rob H]

Lords is to backward. Doesn't have floodlights.
Why ruin the home of cricket with 4 big floodlights? It would be a travesty if permanent ones were erected there. Some ones just for 1 game would be better.

[Osman]

Question: Is it possible to convert this game into a Day/Night match if the weather clear up later on? I ask because of the BBC forecast:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/24hr.shtml?world=0008

Says it will clear up later on in the day.

they could reduce the game to a 20 over per side game if the weather clears up. I suppose its better than going home seeing no cricket at all for those who have tickets for the match.

[Toony™®]

weather should clear up around 6pm!

[ali_ed2006]

that will be too late :(

[moekind]

England v Pakistan, 2nd ODI, Lord's

Rain set to come into play again

Cricinfo staff

September 1, 2006





The weather again looks set to play a big part in the second ODI at Lord's on Saturday. Rain washed out the first match at Cardiff on Wednesday with Pakistan set for victory, and the forecast for London tomorrow is poor.

England are in desperate need of a one-day miracle after winning only three of their last completed 16 ODIs - and one of those was against Ireland - as well as losing eight home matches on the trot.

Darren Gough told the BBC that, unsurprisingly, confidence in the team is low. "England have lacked belief in the ability of some of the players. That's down to not knowing whether they're going to be part of the squad because they're not winning and there are always going to be changes. It would have been nice if we'd got all the players who are going to play in the Champions Trophy or the World Cup and had a good run together. But since last year we've been split up through injuries and different players coming in. Everyone's been playing for places."

Kevin Pietersen also spoke to the BBC, telling them that the influx of new players had created its own problems.

"In a Test if you lose a session - or even two - you can still win a match, whereas in a one-day game with the inexperience if you lose 10 overs you lose the game. It's a case of knowing when to turn it on, when to be ruthless and when to be clinical. We've got that approach in the Test matches but we're struggling to find it in the one-dayers."


Andrew Strauss, meanwhile, explained that the policy was now to go for a steady rather than spectacular approach. "We've tried a few combinations," he said. "We were looking at the attacking opener at one stage and we've tried a couple of people in that role and that didn't quite work out for us. Maybe we've just gone back to trying to get more of an assured start and setting a platform for the middle order players.


"Marcus has played that attacking role at the top of the order for a number of years now and done very well and it's not as if the other players at the top of the order can't hit boundaries, but wickets in hand are very, very important in one-day cricket."


Pakistan, meanwhile, were encouraged by their Cardiff performance after the problems of the previous ten days. "We have fielded well, certainly bowled well ... I'm not sure how well we've batted yet," Bob Woolmer, Pakistan's coach observed. "What has happened in the past we want to put behind us. Cricket is the most important thing for all of us at the moment, and we will be concentrating on that. But I suppose it is an interesting psychological motivating factor for the team. They are very determined and are playing some very good cricket. This is an interesting time in Pakistan's cricket history."

© Cricinfo

[zMario]

Shall we all do the rain dance?

[Cric-PhotoPassionate]

well, its not good news for all of us. I hope rain will not ruin this ODI. I was palnning to take my gear for tomorrow. :-(

[cavin420]

weathers lovely out side, just came back after footy, not a single cloud in the air, no signs of rain thus far, hopefully it will remain like this, through out the day .

Offical Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London .

[Sabika]

weathers lovely out side, just came back after footy, not a single cloud in the air, no signs of rain thus far, hopefully it will remain like this, through out the day .

Offical Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London .
best news ive heard all day

[DotCom]

currently its Fajr time or thereabouts in England.

Any updates? Inshallah we can get the game in, and the rain will come later.

[z10]

no rain in london atm

[Hash]

a few clouds about but none of them threatening.

No rain.

[cavin420]

currently its Fajr time or thereabouts in England.

Any updates? Inshallah we can get the game in, and the rain will come later.
light Breeze/wind beginning to blow, which will take the few clouds hopefully to France, by the looks of it, looking quite promising at the moment, fingers crossed & you never know, it might be a sunny day , later on .


Official Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London

[cornelius]

weathers lovely out side, just came back after footy, not a single cloud in the air, no signs of rain thus far, hopefully it will remain like this, through out the day .

Offical Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London .


good stuff cavin boy. for once ur post actually cheered me up :P

[DotCom]

allright, well I am here in the States on the East Coast, ready to sleep and wake up in a few hours..

Keep the updates coming guys !

[Slugger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0008

bbc weather has forecasted heavy rain on saturday for london

[Jonty]

very disappointing the weather...

[cavin420]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0008

bbc weather has forecasted heavy rain on saturday for london
right, so you would take BBC's word over mine :9:

[cavin420]

its 5.10 am, and my last update ....

getting a tad cloudy, but the good news is, breeze/wind is getting stronger, which might push all them clouds away, i for one am confident, if the wind keeps blowing like this, max 2 more hours , and the skies will be crystal clear .

Official Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London

[PlanetPakistan]

Wouldn't be at all one dimensional. It would be perfect........everyone wants a game. The players, the paying spectators, the millions who watch on TV.

Weather just ruins it.
Natural elements are involved in the nature of a cricket pitch! The over head conditions affect both fast bowlers and spinners! If it was a compact environment then we would have similar pitches, similar bowlers and similar batsman all over the world.

[PlanetPakistan]

its 5.10 am, and my last update ....

getting a tad cloudy, but the good news is, breeze/wind is getting stronger, which might push all them clouds away, i for one am confident, if the wind keeps blowing like this, max 2 more hours , and the skies will be crystal clear .

Official Weather Man for PP, Reporting From London
Yea i hope it rains NOW!!!

[KaSaNoVa_G]

Not raining at the moment but again not expected to rain yet aswell lol... i was suppose to
leave about 9ish for the game but i got to now do a few things before the game... thats
the reason why i am up so early lol !!

[PlanetPakistan]

Lord's slope should help the drying process

[Oxy]

If anyone is interested, it hasnt rained for 3 days in Cardiff.......

[KaSaNoVa_G]

^ Lol well it not raining in Cardiff now is good news atleast... the rain we expecting
in London is suppose to be coming from Crdiff way.. so erm yeah thats
good news i think !!

[PlanetPakistan]

If anyone is interested, it hasnt rained for 3 days in Cardiff.......
Now that just makes me furi:12:us

[PlanetPakistan]

^ Lol well it not raining in Cardiff now is good news atleast... the rain we expecting
in London is suppose to be coming from Crdiff way.. so erm yeah thats
good news i think !!
that's what i am talking about! :19:

[ZM]

take a look at this
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/europe/uk/radar/index.html
now take a look at this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/wind.shtml#no_url
this looks promising as the wind direct is north/north east, also the fact that the main batch of rain cloud looks set to miss london, and maybe the wind direction may push the rain cloud beyond london. If we do get get any rain by the looks of it, it will not be for the whole day

[alybaba]

so should i get up or not?

[161]

how much longer b4 the match starts ?

things still dry in london ?

i'm on the other side of the atlantic and we are getting soaked in NYC.

[MIG]

All this may be moot if England are bowled out for 50 :) ( or even Pakistan :( )

[161]

All this may be moot if England are bowled out for 50 :) ( or even Pakistan :( )


if bell isn't playing then that may be a possibility, but as it is - he is the major thorn in our side.

[Usman Chadda]

All this may be moot if England are bowled out for 50 :) ( or even Pakistan :( )

Even if England are bowled out for 50, rain will come to their rescue and deprive Pakistan of another win

[Pakola]

Even if England are bowled out for 50, rain will come to their rescue and deprive Pakistan of another win

Seriously its getting really frustrating. If it isnt injuries hampering us, its the umpires. When its not the umpires, its the weather. Real patch of bad luck we're going through. Even when we're at the cusp of certain victory, it eludes us.

[D BHAI]

It's really disappointing, in future ICC should keep some more reserve days, & or have any solution
for this kind of washouts.

[Rob H]

take a look at this
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/europe/uk/radar/index.html
now take a look at this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/wind.shtml#no_url
this looks promising as the wind direct is north/north east, also the fact that the main batch of rain cloud looks set to miss london, and maybe the wind direction may push the rain cloud beyond london. If we do get get any rain by the looks of it, it will not be for the whole day
Well said Michael!
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41149000/jpg/_41149501_fish.203.jpg

[Osman]

its very overcast here in London but thankfully its not rained and conditions remain dry. Lets hope it stays that way.

[ZM]

its very overcast here in London but thankfully its not rained and conditions remain dry. Lets hope it stays that way.
it probably will rain but most likely not longer than 1/2hours

[Gunner786]

its raining like hell here in luton though

[khanpuria]

its raining like hell here in luton though

its stooped now


im in the attic and the rain laways wakes me up

had abt 6 hrs sleep


thats nt enough on the day of a cric match!

[Gunner786]

its stooped now


im in the attic and the rain laways wakes me up

had abt 6 hrs sleep


thats nt enough on the day of a cric match!
wherebouts u live in luton?

[ZM]

its stooped now


im in the attic and the rain laways wakes me up

had abt 6 hrs sleep


thats nt enough on the day of a cric match!
i thought u had tiks! the match is about to start in 15mins! hurry up and go down

[khanpuria]

wherebouts u live in luton?

u kno the saints area off biscot road area . .

in there


wat about you?

[khanpuria]

i thought u had tiks! the match is about to start in 15mins! hurry up and go down

na im not going no more

i thpughti t was going to rain loads so none of my luton mates were up for it

but dont worry

the mate who got the ticket is from london and hes got 2 other rowdy effers going

so my absence is a minor

[iZeeshan]

so the weather is ok? id hate to see the match go to waste

[sehban]

is it raining in london rite now or not

[Gunner786]

u kno the saints area off biscot road area . .

in there


wat about you?
farley hill

[deviously~fading~away]

Cricinfo headline says "Rain arrives at Lord's"

[iZeeshan]

cricinfo just said that weather will be fine, quite late in the day...not now...any chances of play RIGHT now, are very slim

[Asif khan]

Well its on sky now, it looks very gloomy and its raining unfortunately.

[Toony™®]

take a look at this
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/europe/uk/radar/index.html
now take a look at this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/wind.shtml#no_url
this looks promising as the wind direct is north/north east, also the fact that the main batch of rain cloud looks set to miss london, and maybe the wind direction may push the rain cloud beyond london. If we do get get any rain by the looks of it, it will not be for the whole day

Actually, you missed the main rainband south of england's coast.

Like I said b4 6pm, b4 u c any extended spell of dry spell for a few hours.
Although, theremight be some brief respite ..butnot enough for to see some real action..considering the time it takes for declaring play.

[Asif khan]

Stopped raining, play due to star at 11.15 am

[James]

Henry Blofeld has received a note saying that from midday and throughout the afternoon, it is going to be 'absolutely rodding it down'...

[Usman Chadda]

Henry Blofeld has received a note saying that from midday and throughout the afternoon, it is going to be 'absolutely rodding it down'...

Great! Just what we need to dampen our spirits!

[Hussain]

its raining again

[Toony™®]

Henry Blofeld has received a note saying that from midday and throughout the afternoon, it is going to be 'absolutely rodding it down'...


hopefully around lords.

[cavin420]

see told you peeps , never ever take anyone's word over cav's :11:

albeit, we did not get 50 overs, but at least we got a result :11:

[Rana]

wat a wierd wether! so dark and cloudy yet minimum rain!

[cavin420]

wat a wierd wether! so dark and cloudy yet minimum rain!


:))):))) waqar you lil beauty ...........

[Rana]

:))):))) waqar you lil beauty ...........

:))

yep thats waqar for you