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Noman
4th October 2006, 21:49
Hasan Raza has a wonderfull record in domestic cricket as many people here in pp know.. He hasnt been given a long run in international cricket which is quit bad if we consider that INzi the best batsman in Pak team is soon or later retiring, I think Pcb needed to groom a player who can follow in Inzi footstep, well we cant find another Inzi, but we can find a player who has shade of Inzi and can take over Inzi role.. Like Australia has done, they have know Hussey instead of Beven... Hasan Raza has done what Inzi has done in internatinal cricket, Hasan Raza has just done it in domestic cricket, Hasan Just( I know its a big just) to transform his domestic form into international, I think he can do it, he just need a lóng run in internatioanl cricket. He is still young and have a lot of potentiel which can be fullfill if Pcb handle him properly.


What do u guys think of him?
How do u rate him?

I think those inning he played against Australia was fine innings consider how bad other batsman batted.

People who doesnt remember him, his profile
!Hasan Raza is one of the many Pakistanis given an early exposure to international cricket, although even by those standards his Test debut at the age of 14 years and 227 days was exceptional (doubts about his birthdate and medical tests later resulted in the PCB withdrawing the record claim - his actual age was uncertain, but was around 15 at the time of debut). He performed admirably, but was soon discarded and left in the wilderness, although he continued to perform well at domestic and A-team level. He was recalled against Australia at Sharjah in 2002-03, scoring 54* and 68, but both innings were slow. Two more Tests against Zimbabwe followed before he was again replaced. He is a wonderful timer of the ball and a treat to watch, but has been unable to reproduce his fluency or strokeplay on the international stage.
Martin Williamson October 2004

PlanetPakistan
4th October 2006, 22:02
His batting performance against Steve Harmison at Multan showed that he is still not very comfortable against short pitch bowling

Noman
4th October 2006, 22:07
His batting performance against Steve Harmison at Multan showed that he is still not very comfortable against short pitch bowling

well, that doesnt mean he should be 100% comfortable against shprt pitch bowling.. Afridi, Razzaq, Malik and Akmal too are very uncomfortable against short pitch bowling... ganguly has troughtout been uncomfortable against Short pitch bowling,,I know he is gone know, but he did score 10000 runs in odi cricket and dont know how much in test, but did quit okay.´
even Lara struggled against Harmison 2 years ago, when Harmi was bowling like fearless fast bowler,.

But you are right about, that he has to get a technic to overcome short pitch bowling.

DotCom
4th October 2006, 22:09
His batting performance against Steve Harmison at Multan showed that he is still not very comfortable against short pitch bowling

how many pak players are comfortable vs Steve Harmison?

so that should not be the criteria ..

I believe there are personality issues... that are also with Imran Nazir..

once u are not in favor with the selectors, for whatever reason .. its bye bye time..

infamous9383
4th October 2006, 22:10
when given the opportunaity even if limited he has not produced.

Noman
4th October 2006, 22:12
how many pak players are comfortable vs Steve Harmison?

so that should not be the criteria ..

I believe there are personality issues... that are also with Imran Nazir..

once u are not in favor with the selectors, for whatever reason .. its bye bye time..

You might be right, But what is Bob than doing and Inzi...

I think all the cricket inzi has played he should be able to spot talent like Hasan Raza... its one I think Inzi has been bad, he hasnt spotted talent like Imran Khan and Wasim Akram did,, maybe a bit with Younis Khan.. but overall Inzi has been a bad talent spotter(im not bashing him, afterall it is not his job to spot talent)

infamous9383
4th October 2006, 22:13
You might be right, But what is Bob than doing and Inzi...

I think all the cricket inzi has played he should be able to spot talent like Hasan Raza... its one I think Inzi has been bad, he hasnt spotted talent like Imran Khan and Wasim Akram did,, maybe a bit with Younis Khan.. but overall Inzi has been a bad talent spotter(im not bashing him, afterall it is not his job to spot talent)


He is a batsman not a selector and just cause Imran spotted some people don't mean everyone can.

TAK
4th October 2006, 22:16
when Harmi was bowling like fearless fast bowler

i can uderstand how you could describe a batsmen as fearless but not a bowler.

what does a bowler have to do for him to be described as fearless?

Noman
4th October 2006, 22:16
when given the opportunaity even if limited he has not produced.

Agree, than Asim Akmal has done that, why is he not in the team,, well he might not be young, be he could have done a good job for 3-4 years...
PCb, is not planning anything, When Inzi retire, they will be huge pressure on MOYO and Younis, and if our opening continue performing like they are doing, im not sure how much it would effect Moyo and younis, but if it effect than it can be a terrible for Pakistan

z10
4th October 2006, 22:16
i can uderstand how you could describe a batsmen as fearless but not a bowler.

what does a bowler have to do for him to be described as fearless?


bowl like sami

Daoud
4th October 2006, 22:18
i can uderstand how you could describe a batsmen as fearless but not a bowler.

what does a bowler have to do for him to be described as fearless?
I think he meant fearsome. Just another nomanism ;-)

Noman
4th October 2006, 22:19
i can uderstand how you could describe a batsmen as fearless but not a bowler.

what does a bowler have to do for him to be described as fearless?

when are bowling is fearless, its mean when he is steaming in and are just going for wicket ala Shoaib Akhtar in test matches.
Sometimes what Rana is, but the problem with him is that he in the end make the batsman fearless :))) :)))

PACE LIKE FIRE
4th October 2006, 23:01
Well I hope he can play consistently at the highest level.

Judging by you saying "a big just" does not seem to harbour well for the individual in terms of

performance.

some people unfortunately cant make the step up to international from club level

Invictus
5th October 2006, 03:46
He is talented no doubt. But you have to transform that to international level. Talent alone isn't enough. The way he played when he was given the chance aginst England was reskless to say the least. You have to grab the chance with both hands. No one is asking to go out and score a ton in your come back game but atleast spend some time in the middle and let the bowler get you. He let the chance slip and a less talented individual made the most of it. So he has to wait now.

Sheikh
5th October 2006, 04:36
He is talented no doubt. But you have to transform that to international level. Talent alone isn't enough. The way he played when he was given the chance aginst England was reskless to say the least. You have to grab the chance with both hands. No one is asking to go out and score a ton in your come back game but atleast spend some time in the middle and let the bowler get you. He let the chance slip and a less talented individual made the most of it. So he has to wait now.
Well said. Thats exactly my position as well.

RumiNYC
5th October 2006, 05:02
chaccha-bhatija cricket..i'm sick of that..give someone else a chance for cricket sake

khanpuria
5th October 2006, 09:05
maybe a recall into the ICT squad, if YK is axed??