MTV Pakistan Launches

[sharuk]

check out the VJs

http://www.mtvpakistan.com/index.php

Waqar Ali Khan
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v7-7.jpg


Anoushe
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v1-1.jpg


Dino
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v2-2.jpg

Younis Shahid
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v3-3.jpg


Faizan
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v4_4.jpg


Mahira
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v5-5.jpg


Natasha Ali
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v6-6.jpg


Ayesha Omar
http://www.mtvpakistan.com/images/vjs/v8-8.jpg

[MIG]

Pakistani kids in the UK have an excuse - what excuse do the Pakistani kids in Pakistan have? Its not URDU, its a bastardized form of Hindi - thats the painful part. And to imagine, its we who are allowing in this is in the name of progress.

[MIG]

Kids in UK have an excuse - the tragedy is that the land of URDU has people intent on destroying the language with this bastardized Hindo/English.

[badxhah]

All these vjs are frm either Indus music(IM) or MUZIK

[Disco_Lemonade]

Dino stands out all of them.

[sharuk]

All these vjs are frm either Indus music(IM) or MUZIK

thats because MTV bought musik

[Asim2Good]

All these vjs are frm either Indus music(IM) or MUZIK

I think MTV is working together with IM to open MTV Pakistan so no surprise there.
IM was doing gr8 itself alone, but with MTV coming, pop singers ll get very good plateform and some sponsorships ll come their way too.

[yk]

Has MTV bought 'The Muzik'????

[kablooee87]

Has MTV bought 'The Muzik'????

so they took over IM

[the Great Khan]

ayesha omar?? didnt she study at froebels in islamabad??...

[the Great Khan]

what a bunch of losers though..people cant get food to eat and while the other half are being indianized!!...if you wrote manjit or ravi next to any of their names could you tel the difference??..this stupid channel is a mistake and our society will pay for it in spades!!

[Gasherbrum]

what a bunch of losers though..people cant get food to eat and while the other half are being indianized!!...if you wrote manjit or ravi next to any of their names could you tel the difference??..this stupid channel is a mistake and our society will pay for it in spades!!

and a double haeinn goes out to the Great Great Khan. the channel has been around for a while, just been bought out and will be rebranded by MTV.

[MIG]

I suppose kids in Pakistan will now speak that Indian/English Hindi type URDU as well. TheekHai jee, if this is evolution - ALLAH knows best !

[Gasherbrum]

dear Miggy sahab ~ this evolution began a long time ago and they already speak that form of english. i suppose Pakistani kids in the UK will speak that funny kind of urdu that only they can understand?

[Boys_played_well]

I know some of the people from that VJ list. None of them are Indianized or whatever else is suggested.

Learn to appreciate others and not to view everything from an Islamic standpoint.

More power to these guys.

[sneekysneeky]

yep i wouldnt call them indianized... burgers yes indianized no...

[Boys_played_well]

Dino isnt burger, neither is younis shahid, nor waqar ali. Anoushey, maybe.

Fact is, these people are evolving our entertainment industry...good for them, and us!

[sneekysneeky]

Dino isnt burger, neither is younis shahid, nor waqar ali. Anoushey, maybe.

Fact is, these people are evolving our entertainment industry...good for them, and us!
yep i have no problems with them doing what they do... its great... hoping for MTV Pakistan to come to the US...

[HoMeR]

looks very cheesy.. everyone acting 'western' now.. but i guess in another way its going to be a good chance for performers to grow through the brand "MTV" ... I still say that it looks pretty lame.

[nafajafam]

indianised? just because india was the first one to start this in south-east asia doesnt mean its indianised. Please !! and i think i have heard enough of preservation of language. its man made and meant to evolve and change as all things. its not like urdu is some jannati language and immune from any 'bastardisation' et al. more important things to preserve, if one needs to !!

[MIG]

indianised? just because india was the first one to start this in south-east asia doesnt mean its indianised. Please !! and i think i have heard enough of preservation of language. its man made and meant to evolve and change as all things. its not like urdu is some jannati language and immune from any 'bastardisation' et al. more important things to preserve, if one needs to !!

Great news - we can all fit in nicely in downtown mumbai - "woh kiay hai na , kay hum aap ko bolay thay ka , kiya fundoo cheez hai"...

URDU is our national langauge - its preservation is tied to Pakistans identity - if you cant see a problem with that then I suppose there is nothing to argue about.

[nafajafam]

Great news - we can all fit in nicely in downtown mumbai - "woh kiay hai na , kay hum aap ko bolay thay ka , kiya fundoo cheez hai"...

URDU is our national langauge - its preservation is tied to Pakistans identity - if you cant see a problem with that then I suppose there is nothing to argue about.

urdu was chosen as a national language. pakistan was not created for a language. understand that and much of the identity crisis will absolve. there are more important things to worry about than how language is changing. no one is forcing anyone to speak a certain way. people choose and pick. waise miggy, you do speak well enough to fit into downtown mumbai. bindaas!!

[MIG]

:)) What do you expect - mai khood Indian colleagues kee Hindi theek karta rahta hoon !

Ok, lets go back a bit - URDU was the pehchan of Muslims in the SubContinent - if it werent the case, Allama Iqbal would have written bangedara in Punjabi or Sanskrit !

I am told by many Indian Muslims that URDU is being deliberately marginalized to finish off their identity. You can see it in the Indian movies of the 70s, 60s, 50s - URDU was the langauge of dialogue - fast forward that to 90s, 2000s etc - language is different ( some say evolved ) - but that is good for India - its the melting pot for many languages but is Pakistan the same?

Sometimes, battles can be fought without guns and tanks...

[the Great Khan]

oh let me rephrase my comment: our society is already paying for this sort of haramzadgi(yes it is that, and if you feel it isnt let your own daughters,wives and mothers do this on tv)..sorry im being harsh but its time we face the facts and reality of our situation...let me explain my comment of indianization...The Indianization of Pakistan is a stated policy goal of our friendly neighbour across the border...you see to destroy a society like Pakistan they have employed some very clever tools...the main one being the media...this is another phase in the destruction of Pakistan..many of you youngsters at uni or fresh out of school or in school, will say"ye kya bakwaas kur raha hay" well guess what i was one of you..into my rock music and western style lifestyle in pakistan etc etc...well i woke up..its time you people did too..the rug is being pulled from under us slowly by elements who are hell bent on destroyin our society while we sit mesmerised by these fools selling us cheap entertainment..wake up...

I apologise for the rant but my question still stands...if you go on a street in the UK or Pakistan, change the names of the people in those pictures to Ravi, manjit or shankar, can you tell me if any1 will know the difference?? if the answer is no then my point is made...ask yourselves what makes us different from them? if you cant then your already lost and Jinnah struggled for nothing....to defeat your enemy you must first know your enemy..we used to know ours but they have made us forget, they still know us...wake up my brothers, before its too late!!... we are Muslims and Pakistanis, the guardians of the fort of Islam, the inheritors of Iqbals vision, the successors toi Jinnahs struggles...wake up now or the next time you wake up your mothers and daughters will be doing a dance at the next navaratri festival in Delhi!!

[Toony™®]

bunch of fashion victims.

[Hash]

Excellent news.

[Awesome Anjum]

Great news!

[Kashif]

Apeing-the-West trend continues in the "modern" Pakistan with this inevitable farce. Waqar's face looks like as if someone has just told him that they only need presenters who can speak Urdu.

[Gasherbrum]

yay, lets judge our society by how the VJs dress up on MTV.

[Oxy]

This Waqar guy used to present a Music show on ARY Digital a couple of years back - he cant speak any Urdu (he is from the UK, and speakes Pushto)

Also, Ive notice that so many people in Pak speak English with a messed up American accent.

Whats that all about?

[MIG]

This Waqar guy used to present a Music show on ARY Digital a couple of years back - he cant speak any Urdu (he is from the UK, and speakes Pushto)

Also, Ive notice that so many people in Pak speak English with a messed up American accent.

Whats that all about?

yay, lets judge our society by how the VJs dress up on MTV. :)

[Hash]

Some people will only be happy if there are 25 Islam Channels and nothing else. Get a life.....nobody is forcing anyone to watch this.

[Oxy]

I dont have any MTV channels - but Ive seen the content in the gym.

If MTV Pak start showing these videos......

[Gasherbrum]

maybe that messed up American accent is really their own accent?

what Pakistani music needs is a band like RATM that will bring political issues into the limelight. if these channels can help, lets have more of them. if its going to be more of that twiddle your thumbs oh look atif and jal are fighting again nonsense, might as well shut it down now. the youth of Pakistan today are a million times better than they were 15 years ago. do not doubt their patriotism and please do not ridicule them with that indianised crap. that battle was lost in the 80s when your ilk decided indian movies were the thing to watch all day long and now you take that u-turn and chastise those that want to create their own identity, using their own media outlets. these outlets should be used to challenge the indians as it is the Pakistanis that will have control of what to air. let them grow.

[Nauman]

This Waqar guy used to present a Music show on ARY Digital a couple of years back - he cant speak any Urdu (he is from the UK, and speakes Pushto)

Also, Ive notice that so many people in Pak speak English with a messed up American accent.

Whats that all about?
Whats a messed up American accent? Oxy I have met loads of young British Pakistanis and loads of Pakistani youth with the "messsed up American accent" as you put it but I can tell you one thing that it is 10 times better then the wannabe accent of British Pakistani kids (I had a couple of class fellows in high school who came from Britain).

[Oxy]

Whats a messed up American accent? Oxy I have met loads of young British Pakistanis and loads of Pakistani youth with the "messsed up American accent" as you put it but I can tell you one thing that it is 10 times better then the wannabe accent of British Pakistani kids (I had a couple of class fellows in high school who came from Britain).
Calm down.

People tend to speak with an accent from within the country they were born in and grew up in.

Thats why I speak with a Welsh accent on account of me being born in Wales.

I cannot speak with an American accent!

So it surprises me that so many Pak youngsters / entertanment wallahs speak with a fake American accent.

[zMario]

MTV Pakistan :)))

Well, now I won't look stupid when all the other kids in US are talking about MTV

I'll go up to them and say, hey we have our own MTV

[Nauman]

Calm down.

People tend to speak with an accent from within the country they were born in and grew up in.

Thats why I speak with a Welsh accent on account of me being born in Wales.

I cannot speak with an American accent!

So it surprises me that so many Pak youngsters / entertanment wallahs speak with a fake American accent.
As long as one is eloquent why should accent make a difference? Its just the way they are taught in private schools. I dont know why you would have a problem with someone having an American accent?

[sneekysneeky]

Great news - we can all fit in nicely in downtown mumbai - "woh kiay hai na , kay hum aap ko bolay thay ka , kiya fundoo cheez hai"...

URDU is our national langauge - its preservation is tied to Pakistans identity - if you cant see a problem with that then I suppose there is nothing to argue about.
if people talk like that then yes theres a problem... but i really dont think people talk like that in Pakistan...

[Bitman]

The birds look fit.

[sneekysneeky]

The birds look fit.
finally a good post...

[the Great Khan]

nobody's answered my question:

replace their names with manjit,shiva or ranjit..will you be able to tell the difference??..what is the difference between us and them now??....

the problem isnt whether there should be 25 islam channels or not, the question is do you want your daughter or son watching a half naked chick on tv going "ya you know rocking yaarrr"? or better yet do you want your daughter to be a VJ??...

[the Great Khan]

The birds look fit.

typical brainless response...what if that was your sister?? would you like young men drooling over her?? grow up!!

[Hash]

typical brainless response...what if that was your sister?? would you like young men drooling over her?? grow up!!

Nobody is drooling over anyone you loser.

He simply pointed out in 'slang' terms that the women are beautiful.

[Daoud]

maybe that messed up American accent is really their own accent?

what Pakistani music needs is a band like RATM that will bring political issues into the limelight. if these channels can help, lets have more of them. if its going to be more of that twiddle your thumbs oh look atif and jal are fighting again nonsense, might as well shut it down now. the youth of Pakistan today are a million times better than they were 15 years ago. do not doubt their patriotism and please do not ridicule them with that indianised crap. that battle was lost in the 80s when your ilk decided indian movies were the thing to watch all day long and now you take that u-turn and chastise those that want to create their own identity, using their own media outlets. these outlets should be used to challenge the indians as it is the Pakistanis that will have control of what to air. let them grow.
I agree with pretty much everything you said there.

A Pakistani RATM though - that would be something :))

[sneekysneeky]

nobody's answered my question:

replace their names with manjit,shiva or ranjit..will you be able to tell the difference??..what is the difference between us and them now??....

the problem isnt whether there should be 25 islam channels or not, the question is do you want your daughter or son watching a half naked chick on tv going "ya you know rocking yaarrr"? or better yet do you want your daughter to be a VJ??...
are you serious? so you are questioning their patriotism just because they dress a certain way?

[the Great Khan]

are you serious? so you are questioning their patriotism just because they dress a certain way?

answer the question...whats the difference??...and are you telling me that this is the epitomy of what a male/female pakistani should aspire to??..wake up...

[the Great Khan]

Nobody is drooling over anyone you loser.

abay chul..bara aya hay...i know exactly what he meant...answer the question..is this what we would like our children to be aspiring to??...what makes us any different to our neighbours then??

[Hash]

abay chul..bara aya hay...i know exactly what he meant...answer the question..is this what we would like our children to be aspiring to??...what makes us any different to our neighbours then??

Saab Jee.

you worry about your children and let other people worry about theirs. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch this or any other channel.

[qasim722]

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[12thMan]

great source for fake American accent would be call centers. even the names are made up to protect the innocent

[sneekysneeky]

answer the question...whats the difference??...and are you telling me that this is the epitomy of what a male/female pakistani should aspire to??..wake up...
theres a serious problem if the country looks up to MTV Pakistan VJs as role models... yar itna serious na ho its just a freakin music channel... let them dress how they want to...

[MIG]

I suppose if we dont consider MTV as a measure of our "progress", then its fine to ignore it. One does feel a little sad for the younger generation when they are growing up with jokers like these on TV ! I suppose if it isnt them, then it would be someone from another channel.

My only gripe is with the destruction of URDU by our OWN people. I suppose its also down to the parents of the kids who watch these channels.

[Asim2Good]

is it "ghar ki murghy daal brabar" ?
or some ppl are never happy ?

couple of these guys on MTV are from UK/USA so there accent seems to b like that. channel is just for give a good platform for our singers/music.

Indians are not happy that younsgters use words like InshAllah/MashAllah and we are not happy with our kids speaking in their accent. it doe damage both ways.

As for Urdu is concerned, it dpends on how u speak in ur own home. forget abt Indian/hindi accent, westil have Islamabi/pindi/lahori/Khi etc etc accent. that Nawabi accent of Urdu is no more. Also books in schools in Pakistan are mostly in English now, no Arabic classes anymore.

there are alot of factors and not only these channels. so just enjoy the music and move on.

BTW I have seen few programmes on MTV in last few days, guest (pop singers) their Urdu was perfect, ppl calling in programmes, their Urdu was gr8. one Guy Waqar Ali Khan, he can't speak Urdu, others like Dino & Anoushey can speak good Urdu.

[sneekysneeky]

I suppose if we dont consider MTV as a measure of our "progress", then its fine to ignore it. One does feel a little sad for the younger generation when they are growing up with jokers like these on TV ! I suppose if it isnt them, then it would be someone from another channel.

My only gripe is with the destruction of URDU by our OWN people. I suppose its also down to the parents of the kids who watch these channels.
i dont follow these channels but how bad is their Urdu? is it just mixing english and urdu?

[MIG]

Or is it a case of "I want to look like others in UK and US" ?

Ghar kee murghi ussee waqt brabar hoti hai jab ghar kee murghi kee qadar hoti hai :)

[nafajafam]

am all for desi murghis. i encourage all to have one when they go back to pakistan. taste is entirely different and ooh la la.

[MIG]

Acha nafa Mian, ziyada pahelian na bujhwao....warna murgha bana doonga !

[nafajafam]

Acha nafa Mian, ziyada pahelian na bujhwao....warna murgha bana doonga !

maulana, is it murga or murgha?

[MIG]

both are kinda bad !! the G[h]ain sound is difficult to express in English - Qaaf would have been easier!

[Gasherbrum]

what MTV has to do with the destruction of urdu is beyond me. we're giving an opportunity for young singers/songwriters to express themselves in their own language so if anything its another outlet for the younger generation to further the use of urdu. to be quite honest, nobody gives a crap about VJs, its the actual content that matters so i don't think anybody will be growing up with these folks.

take your battle to the local urdu newspaper, Miggy, where they will take an english word and write it out in urdu, even when the original urdu alternative is perfectly viable.

[MIG]

Someone is getting very touchy about MTV eh ? Looks like a "dukhti rug"....

[Gasherbrum]

haein haein, not touchy at all bhaijaan, just toning down overreactions with one of my own. also, i think i'd make an axcellent VJ so i'll be referencing this thread with my job application.

and bhai sahab, you have my reshphect but please, what's with the name calling? i resent being called an "aching carpet".

[Muzy]

well when i see stuff like this going on tv i tend not to watch alot of tv anymore, im disgraced at this westernisation not just in pakistan but ofcourse else where, each to their own, we are going to leave this world one day, those who fear their death know not to indulge in such things, i say goodluck to them its their life...

[Bitman]

abay chul..bara aya hay...i know exactly what he meant...answer the question..is this what we would like our children to be aspiring to??...what makes us any different to our neighbours then??

Whats up with you? I didn't imply anybody drooling over the girls. But as they say... Get a life! :21:

[the Great Khan]

theres a serious problem if the country looks up to MTV Pakistan VJs as role models... yar itna serious na ho its just a freakin music channel... let them dress how they want to...

yaar there is a deeper masla..its ok not to take it seriously but IMHO, they seem to be shoving this kind of thing down our young generations throat..its having a bad affect on our society...i wouldnt take it as seriously, except when your gonna be a dad and you see what is around you it gets you thinking...the problem is we are constantly being bombarded with how we should talk,dress and act...this whole process is destroying the fabric of Pakistan...it is serious in a society like ours...we should be encouraging our youth away from this sort of stuff...